New tarp pitch for thru hikers! This trail tent will convince you to switch to tarps.
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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Even without tarp skills, consider this pitch for your hike. It is easy to do, has an opening for each hiker, easy entry and exit, 360 degree protection and privacy: this will work in the wild as well as on camp sites! Also, even if you plan to do only this pitch on your trip or your thru hike and never use the versatility that a tarp offers, this could still be a lighter, cheaper overnight option for your thru hike. And, if you feel like it, you can still use the tarp in other configurations. You can combine with a bivi, a bug inner or just a ground sheet.
The superlight DD-tarp will also work for this pitch. Don't overstretch the tie outs though. amzn.to/3dAYZMc
And very interesting could be the 350 cm square tarp (12*12ft) that DD now have: amzn.to/2NQAG1T which is a bit heavier but would make this a 100% 2 person tent.
What are good trekking poles for tarp pitching? I have new hiking poles by Leki. Mine are the Journey, but there are more Leki trekking poles that are extra long. For example these: amzn.to/3utTOUD also go to 145 cm! That gives you an edge when pitching a tarp.
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I love it, one of the best tarp pitches ever. The name is Perfect.
The way you draw diagrams of your pitches is a brilliant way to teach. This pitch looks great, now I have to go try it out
Go for it!
I tried this with a ridgeline, no poles. Worked a treat. Great configuration - thanks
Hey! Nice, that would make for very easy entry
I like tarp idea but how you manage bugs?
@@Makinen386, you instead run a Ridgeline between the two poles and you hang a bug net inside
Best all around tarp shelter pitching instructions is definitely this channel ! Great job Papa Hicker, thank you for sharing.
Your English is so good and your video easy to follow
Going to give this a shot with my 8x10. Might take it to a 1 man setup. Excellent video!
Absolutely terrific! I am sold on this. I really appreciate the format of your videos and your taking the time not only to explain what you are going to be doing, step by step, but also to talk through as you do it. I am sure that this will become the favourite for many and I may even buy the lightest 3 x 3 from DD (though I have too many heavier arps at this time!). The sun's shining, for once, I'm going to get the grass cut and try setting up the 'Trail Tent' (I like the name.) Cheers J.
Hi dartmoor tramper, thanks a lot for that! Happy to hear that you like the format. I try to adjust the video format to the topic. This took some explaining. Good luck trying it! papa hiker
Awesome setup, thanks for sharing. Just tried this out and it’s the setup I’ve been searching for for years! Great cover, loads of ventilation, tons of space, and no dang pole in the middle of the tent 🎉 love it.
Best set up I’ve seen for backpacking in questionable weather
All Hail Papa Hiker, the King of Tarpdom!!
Thank you! No need to bow though :-)))
@@papahiker9014 Seriously, your videos are great!
This could be the holy grail of tarp setups, time to field test in the garden!
Papa, on your advise and my own experience, I’m using a tarp to hike 2653 miles of the Pacific Crest Trail, Spring of ‘23. Really like your great instructions and demonstrations. Kentucky
Hi Papa Jeff, how is it going with the PCT?
Love your tarp pitch vids. This one is great when there are lots of bugs because it's nice and closed up.
Dude...that was awesome. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks for adding something to humanity.
Very ingenious solution. Well done.
This is just the configuration I’ve been trying to find.
Thanks Papa. Excellent series of vid’s
Van het weekend deze pitch geprobeerd tijdens kampeer trip met mijn dochter. Helemaal tof! Super makkelijk en echt een old school tentje.
Ik had hem opgezet met een ridgeline , werkt ook als een trein. Wederom dank voor deze toffe pitch!
Hey Djoca, vader-dochter activiteit is the best! Leuk en gaaf ook dat je de old school look waardeert :-)
You are pure genius, Papa hiker... Just when i thought I have to have Zpacks Duplex, you made Trail Tent out of 10x10 tarp... Awesome and thanks for the wonderful pitch...
That’s brilliant. A nice cosy tent with good ventilation. I’m convinced tarps are the way to go.
Great pitch! Thanks for sharing. With a bit of preparation it feels quite quick and also very roomy inside. Seems like getting a second trekking pole is worth now. Thanks as always!
Hey Zillexy, Great, you are welcome. A second trekking pole is not absolutely neccesary, you could use any found stick. But, I like hiking with two poles now which is very stress free when pitching too.
Kind regards, Papa hiker
Man! This looks great. I have to try it out on my next trip. Thx for perfect instructions. Great work!!!
Great idea! With a floor and a bugnet you get a fully functional but extremely versatile tent.
With traditional tents floor and zippers wear out after some years...but here: no problem at all. Smart and simple.
If you’re not an instructor of some type, you should look into it. You’re a natural. Thanks for your ideas.
Hi Mick, that is so great to hear, thanks a lot! Papa hiker
You're the tarp tent guru. Am enjoying your videos.
Papa Hiker I just love your work, you are a natural,,, you are the man, the Tarp Man !!!
Looks like an excellent pitch! I think I’ll try it out on my trip next weekend. 😊👍
I am sold on the Hexamid tarp pitch tent! Great instructional video, as usual Papa Hiker!
This is a very nice set up, so once again. a big 'Thank you' to Papa Hiker. I am using this as my default set up, along with my self standing bug net/ground sheet combo. I am using the 3m x 2.9m DD superlight tarp. Plenty of room to give wet gear a chance to dry and also make a hot brew, or a quick meal, should the weather turn a bit rough. For stoves, I use a Svea 123R inside without problems, or a Trangia triangle with a gas burner. Either will work. You can't do that in so many one man tents. The tarp seems to be pretty solid in strongish winds, without too much fabric flap. For guying out, using 1.5 mm dyneema chord, but using purasic (however it is spelt) loops for the pegs, so to tension the fabric is simple. This whole set up then is light and not too bulky, This tarp set up did indeed convince me to switch from tents, LOL.
Wow, you're back! So glad to see your channel again!
Hi Matt, thanks, yes, i am back with more time and still lots of ideas, hope you stick around. Kind regards, papa hiker
I think you maybe the greatest tarp camping resource on youtube or even books .
Thank you very much Harrison. Do you think a web site would be helpful to create order in the information?
Kind regards, Papa hiker
@@papahiker9014 Yes I would believe so. I haven’t come across a website this educational about this subject. A website would definitely be helpful.
thanks for this! learning this in the garden sounds like a good way to spend some locked-down weekend in the UK
Hi David,
Oh man I can relate...
This would work with a 12x10 tarp, it just would have spare room in the middle and would maybe need 2 more stake points. I have one that I use for my hammock camping, so I may try it out.
Everything is absolutely perfect, name, size, pitch.
Hey Martin! Thanks for your comment, see you again, Papa hiker
BEST shelter I've ever seen!
Great idea! I'm planning try it with my 3.5 x 3.5 tarp. Best regards from Poland.
Hands down, one of your best. I'm also thinking about it with a 12x12 canvas tarp. Stove jack? Hot tent? I think so.
So, this is the middle segment of the traditional A Frame. Having some portion of the tarp loose in the front and the back of the A Frame, you can bend it and close those sides. It is clever.
Hey BUST, yes, that is about the idea. And you sleep in the other direction. Works a lot better than the A frame (my least favourite tarp pitch) :-)
Nice one Papa Hiker! I will be giving this a try to see if it is big enough for a 6ft 1 like me! Thanks again for all your tarp videos I think its the most comprehesive set I have seen.
I like this layout and, as others have said, your use of diagrams is really helpful. 👌
This set up saved my arse. I was in the black mountains in wales on 10th April this year and the weather changed rapidly. I have the dd hammocks 3.5 x3.5 tarp.
It started snowing and the temp went from a balmy 7c down to -15c , 50 mile wind on the ridge by balbach.
I've good kit but it was bloody cold that night.
Id practiced this set up a few times and it worked a treat. I pegged it tight to the ground so had quite a bit of condensation but no problem because it froze on the inside and didn't drip.
Cant thank you enough.
Dear Matthew, that is a chilling comment. But, really happy that my work helped you out in such a tight spot. Also a stand-out word in your comment is "practiced". That is something I can't recommend enough and you proved why! Great work. Papa hiker
The Trail Tent. I love it! This is one of the most interesting tarp pitches I've seen. I want to try it out with a group, just to amaze everyone with a tarp setup that looks just like a tent.
Hey, yeah go for the wow effect :-)
That’s ingenious! Love it! Sliding door is a great idea too.
I had been using this configuration in my summer hike in Northern Urals. I had a 3×3m (10×10') tarp, one long (10m/33') ridge line, ten tie-outs (2m each), ten stakes. Most of the time I was using trees as anchor points and ridge line with prusik knots instead of trekking poles. At least for one of top corners.
This configuration is excellent! Thank you!
BTW, you can close one end of an A-Frame with a carabiner like this and it will be a good configuration for sleeping along the ridge line when the weather isn't too bad.
Hey Dmitry, this sounds very excellent! Cool that you took the trip to the Ural too, seems awesome to me! And yes, that open end option is nice, light, airy...
This is genius ! I love it ! Thanks for the video... 🤩😍😁
Great job! And the best: no zippers and no floor that can fail.
This is a great pitch, so straightforward and it seems to work fine with my 3x4m tarp, just comes out a little longer. I prefer the poles on the outside and can lie lengthwise, being average height, and still have lots of space both sides of me. I'm going to try actually sleeping in it this weekend.
So much versatility with tarps. Thank you Papa, for yet another great pitch! I really like the name. Please keep it as is!
Hi Jim, most votes seem to go to keeping it as it s, so that is a winner!
Thanks for your comment, Papa hiker
Thank you : ) first time here... subscribing.
Its like a Duplex style tent :D amazing
Very cool! I may need to get a 10x10 tarp. Going bikepacking for the first time soon. Nothing crazy, just an overnighter. I kinda hate how expensive camping gear has gotten since I was a kid, so I'm just bringing a 8x10 tarp I bought from a hardware store years ago. While this tarp can't do the pitch you demonstrate, I've watched several other of your videos to get ideas. Very informative and easy to understand- well done!
Another great tarp pitch from the "Tarp Sensei", Papa hiker. Just tried it this weekend and it worked like a charm. I can understand why Papa hiker recommends the trekking poles on the outside. Still I went for the poles inside option because I wanted to set a short cord between both poles to hang a few things for the night, like a bug net, light, towel, hat... Downside is that the side door/flaps have to be pitched to the outside on an angle that increases the overall area of the pitch. These 2 flaps also leave an opening which can help with ventilation and condensation (which can be a pro or a con according to the weather).
I also found easier to set the 2 carabiners first of all. That way you can stake next the four sides of the rectangle knowing the exact measure of that area and the needed tension.
Very roomy inside (good for 2 people), enough for comfy seating and very stable and well protected from rain and winds.
Thanks again for all your work Papa hiker!!!
Hello Miguel,
great! Nice that you tried it and experimented a bit with the poles/clothesline etc. Happy to hear that you had a good experience with it.
Kind regards Papa hiker
Nice configuration! I'm new to this tarp thing. It fits my lightweight packaging on a motorcycle trip.
Sweet pitch
PH - can you please do a video on your finer details such as the type of guyline you use, knots you tie, stakes and line stoppers. Thank you for everything you do!
Great Tarp set up for protection on all sides AND it looks like the inside dimensions will be something like 5x7.5 or 37.5 square feet which is pretty spacious for a 10x10 tarp.
This is genius! Definitely trying this on the weekend. Keep the name
If it ever stops raining/snowing in the northeast US this is my first quickie outdoor project - thanks and always an idea taken away from your vids
Hey Carpathian, thanks for your comment, hope the sun comes soon, Papa hiker
Excellent design. I will be trying this on my next campout. Even low and tight, there should be plenty of length on a one person diagonal sleep.
Just subscribed to your channel. Love your demos, especially myself being 6’4”.
Awesome and simple will be the next tarp config I will do!brilliantly done as usual papahiker 8)
That's awesome can't wait to show it to grandson he's been wanting a tarp option like that!
That setup is EXCELLENT! I'm going to give it a try ASAP.
Hi Tim thanks, give it a shot!
Great pitch as always Papa Hiker, really appreciate your channel; always informative and high quality, and the main reason I am getting into tarp camping.
I have been struggling a bit with figuring out a setup with a bug net inside with this pitch; I just came up with something that seems to work quite well. I thought I'd share it here in case anyone else looking to do the same thing stumbles across this comment, and/or someone might tell me how I might improve my setup and/or any issues.
TL;DR: I run an internal ridgeline between two improvised internal tie-out ("tie-in"?) points made using the marble trick. I use that ridgeline and a couple other tricks to set up and somewhat tighten a Lanshan 2 inner tent.
The trail tent itself I pitch just as described in the video using the DD Tarp 3x3 and poles outside. I attach paracord to the tarp tie-outs using a kind of modified larks head knot, creating a quick release by pulling through a half-loop instead of just the end of the rope, before tightening. Pretty much all tightening is done with a taut line hitch. It also makes the first part of the pitch a bit easier; put down the first four pegs in a tight configuration, and just move the taut line hitches a bit to relax the lines.
I put down a groundsheet, I'm currently using the Sea to Summit Escapist product.
I then run a ridgeline inside the tarp, using the marble trick (with actual marbles) to create two internal tie-out points. I place each one immediately below the external tie-out points which connect to the poles. In order to make this efficient, I used the approach described here, ruclips.net/video/buRdJdcOsXM/видео.html , creating two short pieces of paracord with a hangman's noose on one side and a bowline on the other. the hangman's noose will tighten around the marble, and the bowline creates an attachment point for the internal ridgeline.
Next, I run a ridgeline between the two bowline loops. Several ways to do this, e.g. tighten up with a trucker's hitch. For convenience I have a string with a bowline on one end, connect it with a carabiner to the loop on one side, run the other end through the other loop, attach a loop of string using a prusik knot, and use that loop to tighten similar to a trucker's hitch.
Now that the ridgeline is in place, I put in place a loop of string on each side of the ridgeline using prusik knots, and these become the attachment points to hang and tighten the inner tent. I am using the inner tent of a Lanshan 2.
I found that when you just stake out the corners of the inner tent, the bug net on the sides will really sag and literally get in your face when you lie down. In order to remedy that, I did a couple things. First, instead of staking out the regular corner points, I stake out the hooks just above with elastic bands; this will help tighten the inner tent.
Next, I run two lines, on on each side of the tent. Each line is run from the prusik loop on the internal ridge line on one end of the tent, along the tarp to the line connecting the tarp to the ground on the opposite lower corner of the tent. The middle hook on the insect net can then be hooked into that line, which will help pull the bug net up. (a possible issue, not tested: condensation might run along the line and drip into the inner tent at the attachment point?)
The carabiner for the internal ridgeline serves a dual purpose; most of the cordage for the internal ridgeline and inner tent setup comes with a loop, so I use the carabiner to hook them together and toss them in the inner tent bag together with four pegs, in order to have a ready-to-go setup for that.
Allright; hope this makes sense, and anyone feel free to tell my how I can improve the setup, and/or why this setup is crazy ;-) The setup has not been field tested in anything but optimal conditions (quiet sunny day on my lawn).
One concern I do have is whether the improvised internal tie-out points will do damage to my tarp (regular version, and/or the superlight version), and any steps that should be taken to mitigate that. My thinking was that by using actual marbles the strain will be limited mainly to the knot holding the marble in place, and as the tie-out is used to run an internal ridgeline, it will not be subject to the kind of stresses on an external tie-out point which is run very tight and/or exposed to heavy winds.
Another question I have for you tarp camping folks is ... what is the best way to manage all the cordage? It does become quite a bit. For now, my solution has been to make some variation of a paracord bundle of each loop (using this kind of process, ruclips.net/video/dJ3YrmwGCs8/видео.html ). And I mark the end points of each piece of cord with a number of dots, one per meter of cord, so I can easily identify their lengths.
Anyways, thanks again Papa Hiker for all the good content you are publishing, it really is a gold mine for anyone wanting to get into tarp camping. And being Norwegian, I obviously also enjoy the occasional scenery from your trips to my country :-)
Nice pitch, I will give that one a go. I have found that using bungee cord to tie down the flaps (on the inside)of a tarp pitch in very windy conditions works really well.
this one is really good. Two thumbs up. "Trail Tarpent". I'm 6'6'', & I can sleep here. I added a lightweight mosquito net inside, no problem. Thanks for the design.
Hey Standswithabeer, thanks! So you tried it and it fit with the mosqito net? That is nice to hear!
Kind regards, Papa hiker
Great pitch Papa. I am devising a pitch for my ebike to be the center of my pitch so is inside for safety and maintenance in the dry. I have the DD 3.5x3.5 so I can pin walls to ground. I like a door against weather and will use one of your end setups with door and back wall and sides pinned to ground.
Best tarp pitch ever! I will be trying this one for sure! Thanks for the post.
Great! Good luck, papa hiker
Impressive setup. I can see a lot of advantages in it, the only one problem is that if it is cold and windy the draught could be treacherous. But if this is the case of course you just change your setup. Finally, it is a very nice-looking tent.
Very well done Papa Hiker, as usual.
Thanks Videostories.
The setup has these four triangles of excess material. Those really help against the draught. I used it last fall in a saddle between two mountains. Impressive location, but very cold en windy. Piled four huge rocks on these triangles and had a great night. :-)
tomorrow i will try this with the 4x4m Tarp... pinned down to the ground.. in windy conditions..
Nice, how did it go? Happy camping, papa hiker
@@papahiker9014 hey, it works very well! Groundspace 2*3meters..Ridge hight... 1,2m with the 4*4Tarp! we should try the new 5*5..😬😂🎪.. next step.. than with the 5*5 and 2Fishing bedchairs! 😎... fridge... Tv..
Papa Hiker you are my hero ! Thank you for this pitch 😃
Hi Hitinui, Thanks! Papa hiker
Love it, it should be called papa hiker pitch.
Hi Monkeyingout, most of the votes go to trail tent :-) sorry
great set up. I'm going to try similar with my unigear tarp (£28.99 Amazon) 3x4 as my straps/tie points across the middle and around the edges with metal gromits and straps are 3 inch plus long so I'll have more options as I'm planning on putting in a hang up mosquito mesh compartment using magnetic bivvy hooks one for inner one for light 👌😉💪👍🏕️
I settled with the pyramid pitch but was never really happy with it. This here is way better. Im using this design from now on. Thanks for the video.
Awesome!
I just did this with my 9 ft x 9 ft REI tarp and it works great! I’m 6 ft so found I need to lie diagonally. But still that works. Full protection all sides. Thank you!
Hey MT library, oh, nice to hear that even in a 9*9 this is a good pitch. But yes, not for two people.
Happy camping, Papa hiker
Excellent name and construction method....well done!
Thank you!
Brilliant set up and a very good video, really enjoyed this!
Thanks R New!
Dope configuration 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks Rafael
Couldn’t be more perfect !!!
Brilliant! definitely be using that pitch!
@0:44 : You've just described my camping trips . . .
ah the foot tapping... we've all been there
Very cool, I am going to try this one for sure!
Really good idea! I think my Duplex tent is more luxurious, and it is also better for strong winds (than this particular pitch), and more lightweight (than this particular tarp). But the versatility of tarps definitely makes them interesting, and the small space that is needed to place down the sleeping pad/bivy is enough to make me want to invest in a dyneema tarp ASAP..!
Hey Espen! Ooh the duplex sure is an excellent tent, so hard to beat with the combination of tarp&skills, but yes, a dcf tarp would beable to do it. Let me know what you do in the end!
Have a nice one, papa hiker
I can warmly recommend the DCF HMG square tarp, 8.5 ft x 8.5 ft for solo use, though some of these pitches really need the larger 10 ft x 10 ft size. But the DCF tarp is so light, I often use it on day hikes, just to chill out. Highly versatile, and takes compound shapes effortlessly, despite being a flat tarp.
That's a winner -- thanks for sharing Papa!
This is brilliant, thank you so much for sharing it.
Very nice name. You are really the the best in tarp camping. Very good videos and great humour. I realy loved your video about hot tarp going wrong. Keep up the good work. Best regards from Roskilde
Hey Carl, thanks for your kind comment! We were in Roskilde this year, during the dip in the virus spread in the summer. We went to the excellent viking ship museum (viking age food) and had a great time there. I would like to build a copy of the small gokstad boat one day. Must be a really great place to live, Roskilde! I fished in the fjord, about 100 meters from shore, with medium spoons but no luck.
Kind regards, papa hiker
You are the best!! Thank you so much for sharing!!!
Thanks man! Have a great day in Texas. Papa hiker
Yeah !! Great !! Good thanks!!👍👍🏕🏕
Fassbender/Jobs meme - Perfection
This is great, especially for rain and wind. Texas
Hello Papa Jeff, nice to hear from you. Would be great if you try it once, Papa hiker.
This looks like a great solution for mild weather. For wild weather, on the other hand, I'll be sticking to the low tetra. And since most of my trips seem to end in high winds…
Hey Matt, that is totally fine of course, because if you have a tarp, you not only have this pitch, but also all these other great options in your backpack! Which is awesome :-)
@@papahiker9014 Absolutely, it's the versatility of the tarp that makes it so attractive. This particular configuration looks awesome and I want to try it, it's just as I say… every time I go out I seem to find myself in gale force winds!
I really like this pitch, will try it out later. many thanks for sharing
Hello John Armstrong, awesome, hope you try it.
Kind regards, Papa hiker
Damn the tarp is a good piece of kit. 👍🏻
That's right!
Perfect name. Great pitch. Thanks for sharing. 🤘
Thanks man!
I have done it with a 4 x 3 m tarp.
Genius mate
Really efficient set up. Thanks.
Hey why not try to do a Lanshan tent...ok why not. Whoops and there it is. You are the tarp king
Thank you Marko!
Very cool pitch, as always Papa hiker! I'll try it out in two weeks for a Boy Scout outing and let you know how it goes.
Thanks for sharing this tarp setup. I give it a try on my next trip :)
I use exact the same configuration with my DCF Tarp and my Lanshan2 Inner Tent in Bad Weather so i have a full closed Double Layer Tent with only 650gr.
Hello Alpenglühn! That is just a rock solid solution, at a mere 650grams, wow.
Are you worried about putting stress on the mid panel tie outs? I trust those on the regular DD-tarp, they are very strong, but on the ultralight a little less so. On DCF, I sadly don't know because I don't own one...
Bye, Papa hiker