If Leigh said what the screenshots said then she is wrong, but Nicki was still wrong. She could've handled it a little better than she did. After the girls took up for her when her and Cardi were at each other's throats. I hardly think it's fair to talk about Leigh in that manner and Jesy(if she loves the girls so much) should have stuck up for Leighann because it wasn't right for Nicki to talk about her like that. It had nothing to do with Nicki true and I understand Nicki was trying to take up for a chum, but she still could've handled it differently as I said.
@@rafaelfigueoa2457 no she wasn't. Imagine calling a beautiful black woman jealous of a white girl who uses AAVE and other tans? As a black woman herself she should feel ashamed
Both sides are wrong if you ask me jesy for letting nicki diss her sister even tho i kinda agree with some points she said and leighanne too being a Hypocrite and having a friend who looks like she blackfishing as well but i still love them both
The fact that Nicki did a song with all 4 of them at that time & now she has the nerve to go on IG LIVE and Rip apart one of the most genuine underrated kind hearted inspirational women like no you don’t do that. Leigh-Anne has gone through too much of this shit and has received so much racism in her career and possibly her life as well to be degraded by Niki and Jesy
@@nothingbutintroverted4372 that’s the thing only thing Nicki did was call her a clown. Than screenshot Leigh commenting on her white Friend pic who also tans her skin to look black like jesy and gonna say work with heart eyes and kissing faces. Like Leigh didn’t u just go on a whole rampage about jesy black fishing, but comment positive stuff on ur friend pic who is also black fishing and don’t let me get started on her husbands racist comments towards black girls on Twitter.
@@Ariii443 this is not hate towards you or anything but just saying that friend you are talking about is mixed race and she has held her husband accountable about those tweets in her documentary you should check that clip out if you don't believe me.... K bye 👋😊
"I literally loved my time with LM" Really? Now it's confusing me. She said in her first couple of interviews that she's sad for the last 10 years during LM. Now what. She's always confusing me..
I think she meant she loved being in the group with the girls because they were so close but the experience all together was hard for her and it obviously made her sad.
@@1louisprotector28 I kinda get it now. It's hard for me to support Jesy at this time because of her statements. Sometimes it's confusing. Thanks for clarifying! Hope they can get over this though.
@@lonewolf9957 Yeah, you're welcome. And same. Jesy and Leigh-Anne have been my favorite LM members since 2016 and I was really excited for Jesy's solo career but I can't support her, she really disappointed me.
I was confused as well it’s a lot of back and forth but Smdh I can’t with willfully ignorant people. No matter how talented they are I’m not helping to money in your pockets and you still doing the same BS.
Point is, after boyz came out, Jesy and Nicki sold mixers and the other girls down the river and even Leigh-Anne. Like Jesy is doing it for clout and attention. It’s best for me to support the other girls than jesy. Jesy is over for me and I’m really angry at her.
@@westonding8953 agreed I think it’s started out that way, she never meant to offend , but when people tell you it’s offensive or wrong and you choose to ignore it and amp it up even more , it’s very intentionally ignorant and that’s when it becomes completely offensive which is what has happened.
@@littleharmony8123 yes. But then you have to be consider that people have endlessly twisted and manipulated Jesy’s words. They will make things worse for her if she apologizes. People have to accept that it was unintentional and that she will learn, grow, and be accountable. If you want Jesy to apologize you have to give her room to be accountable and not let anyone endlessly twist her words.
@@sh4un333 oh my god it’s not only about the mv, she has blackfished for like 3 years or something. and just has a problematic past, especially with her friends being racist and her just laughing it off while she literally had a black bandmate. and fans has called her out for many years for using a lot of tan. the problem is not only the music video. it’s been like this for so many years, and she never spoke about it and chose to be silent, and it just went away.
They have not been communicating. That is for sure. They address the blackfishing allegations but they did not directly accuse Jesy of it. I don't think they are holding it against her but they do indicate that she should not intentionally do it and should be accountable. If Jesy had not disassociated so much from them, I think this would have been handled better.
this!!!!!!!! the whole thing was blown out of proportion by the fans who’ve have speculated and came up with all these rumors. I’m pretty if she were still in the group and this whole situation came about it would b handled so differently.
@@westonding8953 They did... they told her about it. Leigh and her family spent two years trying to educate her on it... Jesy just doesn't listen and doesn't care enough to listen and change.
@@melaninatedgoddess3678 I meant recently, Little Mix and Jesy have not been communicating. It probably would help a lot if they did. I don’t think Jesy ignored Leigh-Anne in the past. She probably overlooked some potential problems while creating the video. You got to treat Jesy like a human. It probably was not in her and her teams’ minds that “will I offend someone”. Yes, it was a problem. They have to be accountable now. I want her to be accountable but I don’t want her to be hit with endless hate and have her apologies be twisted and make her look worse. She needs space to grow and learn and people have to give it to her.
well in friendship you have your own rules, being homophobic, racist, black fishing, and doing other morally wrong things just isn't okay under any circumstance and I'm glad those three kicked her off, and I think this can make them stronger by getting rid of that toxicity and it's sad bc some people think those things are okay and encourage it but I'm glad the other member didn't. No one is perfect and accepting those things would be horrible.
Blackfishing shouldn’t even be a word. Eminem set the standard for how the future generations on white kids talk amd act like in the uk she was born in that time now people wanna complain about it double standards. Eminem shouldn’t have been allowed to do that to the kids and that was 20 years ago. Before he come along
Literally the only thing people are talking about is the drama, not the actual song. The song wasn't great, and considering Jesy actually has a really great, unique voice, it didn't highlight her. She was also overshadowed by Nicki and all the drama surrounding her atm. Weird choice for a debut single as a solo artist. I do genuinely hope whatever she drops next is good because I love her voice, but my hopes dropped after boyz
@@terynb4407 interesting point... I wonder how the song is performing on streaming services in comparison with people seeking out the music video. (Genuinely wondering! Not trying to start something, but it's hard to communicate that on the internet sometimes)
I mean…if it was up to me, I think Jesy is contradicting her contradiction. “Nothing but love”, but sits here and feeds into Nicki ripping apart Leigh Anne. Hhhmmm Edit: Nicki is probably just doing this to protect her name and her bank account…there are many other ways you can go about Jesy’s situation without dragging someone else you went on a whole praise rant about being a Libra
@Anne Day she didn’t even say all that just that she’s a clown not once did she say anything about manipulative or money so stop lying I was deadass on the live when they was on ig so stop
@Anne Day I’m not lying but okay not point of going back and forth we got two different opinions and we gonna keep clashing heads about it (smokes blunt)
@@steph0952 right! And it was only at #1 because it was Jesy’s first single as a solo artist. People weren’t streaming it because it was good, they were streaming it because they were curious
It's superlatively sad what has been happening to them. They were almost sisters and now there's a dark cloud overhead 'em telling 'em they should hate one another. It saddens me and also maddens me that I'm unable to do anything - I hope everything's finna be okay to all of 'em.
Jesy is really confusing. She said those 10 years were the worst in her life then she says something different. She says she loves them to bits then laughs when Nicki comes at Leigh Anne 🤷🤷
Well I read a comment about how her time in Little Mix with the girls, and the concerts, etc. was the best, but all the trolling and all the hate was the worst. Like I get it, but she has been very contradictory lately and I personally don’t know if I should believe her. And the situation with Nicki is just so maddening. 10 years of friendship THROWN away. On the IG live Nicki said that the “blackfish” thing was never brought up to Jesy, BUT in quite a few interviews Jesy said that while Little Mix were shooting the “Sweet Melody” video it was actually brought up to her. So she obviously lied. Why she’s acting that way? I have absolutely no clue. Anyway, she’s become quite backstabbing since she left LM and I don’t really wanna support her anymore until she apologizes for her actions.
I think if Jesy wanted to make amends she should have at least apologised to Leigh-Anne for letting Nicki drag her publically she had the opportunity to change the topic but chose to be complict Anyway hopefully they resolve this and Jesy understands what she did wrong (blackfishing) and doesn't do it again.
The question for me is why didn't Jesy listen? Did the Boyz video with a holiday natural tan plus added on to it (yes she said she did add but we've all seen Jesy natural tan). Then her Capitol FM interview JUST RIDICULOUS! Thankfully she toned it down a bit on her Graham Norton performance. She learned the hard way, rather than take on what her group sisters warned her about!
I don't think her takeaway from the conversation was "don't tan". What do you mean by seen her natural tan? Most likely, Jesy and her production team overlooked some problems she would have trying to release the music video. No two people have the same lines on what is cultural appreciation and cultural appropriation. Most likely, she and her production team unintentionally toned her darker than Nicki without thinking too much and that's what sparked the accusations.
@@user-bn4dt9du8r I'm being serious rn, Nicki is very bad when in comes to media literacy. It's the same thing that happened in the balls situation. She doesn't check the sources and reacts to rumors and fakes publicly to her audience. Like whatever, let's imagine she's a random person with no platform. At least trying to check the sources and be suspicious from time to time is very important in the modern world (from what I see from afar, especially in the US).
@@user-bn4dt9du8r that's what I was talking about basically. Almost every huge star has been there. I'm not on Twitter but they repost this stuff everywhere. There were "screenshots" about basically every somewhat relevant person. I've seen so many ridiculous "screenshots" that seemed to be made by an asleep person using Microsoft Paint. AND PEOPLE BELIEVE THEM.
Well everything actually adds up. Jesy said they actually talked to her somewhere around their last music video together and the girls said they talked to her about that... like, yeah. So I don't know if the people who say that any of them are lying in the comments have actually watched the video.
@@LalaRu-AmbisDyosa jesy didn’t laugh hard enough. After Leigh Anne sent a message asking Nohun to do a video to sabotage her career. In fact, Nicki was right. Leigh Anne is vile.
@@Irina.212 the messages were fake. She never messaged anyone. And you expect a new mother who just gave birth and can hardly have a full night's sleep would go on IG Dming people?
@@Irina.212 Leigh is vile... but Jesy can blackfish, film her white film say the n word multiple times ( while laughing) and posting it, filming herself singing to R.Kelly and saying she loved his song... and she's an angel?
@@user-bn4dt9du8r yep. Susan quoted Jesy saying that it was never brought up to her... until their last mv together. Which does add up with what Little Mix said about the situation.
@@dannyroy I don’t think she ignored it. More likely she and her team overlooked some potential problems people would have. Where are the lines between cultural appreciation and appropriation? No two people have the same lines.
Literally. Jesy was my favorite in the group along with Leigh-Anne since 2016 and the fact that she's acting like this and was silent af when it came to Leigh-Anne getting racist comments and Jesy not saying anything during the BLM movement is enough to know she wants the looks but refuse to acknowledge the hardships and own up to her offending lots of poc just because she wants to play victim .
When i heard that Jesy will be leaving LM I was glad because i knew how much hate she received and it was for her "healing". But now hell no lol I'm so glad LM only has Leigh Anne, Jade, and Perrie now
I’m not hating on Jesy but at least the girls didn’t say anything bad about her, unlike her. She’s trying to flip things up and trying to turn herself the victim.
They actually did, leigh anne and her whole family harassed her for many times, it was unnecessary and disrespectful. She should have reached out to her in private and stopped the whole throwing shade towards her
People are going to keep twisting and manipulating her words to make her look worse if she apologizes. They have already been doing that to her endlessly. If you want her to apologize and grow, you have to promise her room to be accountable and improve.
@@nothingbutintroverted4372 yes they have. They keep making it look like she has a feud with her former band mates and that she is blaming them. Give me one direct statement where she does that.
first things first, Nicki needs to apologize to Leigh-Anne for her childish behaviour. second, Jesy said they never mentioned when LM girlie said they did in friendly manner so jessica lied. third, jesy removed that tan my girl atp. stop embarrassing yourself 😭
Lol how did she lie? They literally confirmed what she had already said, which is that after all those years being a group, they mentioned it for the first and last time after their last video together, before she left.
@@libertass that is literally not what they confirmed.... They confirmed that they have talked about it with her a loong time ago and fans have talked to her about it from a long time ago as well.... And the friend whom Nicki was talking about is mixed race and Leigh has held her fiance accountable for his tweets.... Ok this is not hate towards you just saying k bye 😊
How can you say you’re a real mixer if you’re pinning them against each other all this public attention is adding fuel to the fire the way I see is like best friends got into a argument and need time to heal before they can have a decent Congo I’m sure it’s no bad blood all four ladies are incredibly busy and for people bashing jesy music and little mix music we don’t forget how hard they’re practicing for their fans the hate is not called for let them reconcile in their own terms
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If they talked to her, why didn’t she take it seriously? She says it herself that she was in a group with “two women of colour”. So wouldn’t those two women know best about how her behaviour is inappropriate? Clearly she is choosing to do her own thing and doesn’t care about ANYONE’S feelings, especially her former band mates, despite what she says.
Y’all really need to do your research before you say things. Those photos going around with her friend is old, she toned down her tan a lot. Which means Leigh Anne most likely said something. Also, her friend is middle eastern.
@@dragonslayer7018 um how did leigh gave a support to that girl if she toned down her tan a LOT which is what jesy should have done too? she most definitely told her to do so, like she did with jesy.
The thing I really dont like what jesy has done is that she sold out the other girls and her fans. Yeah it must be hard to be in a girl band like physically and mentally but it's like shes forgot all the good from it ? Like from little mix she won a brit award, was able to tour, had hits and music videos and she did have 3 very good friends but yup I think Leigh Ann said something and Jesy took it the wrong way and to be honset I think shes behaved like a spoilt brat 😅. Dont get me wrong what she went through bullying wise was awful but I always found it weird when she won her NTA that she never thanked the other girls, one day shes gonna wake up and realise she probs has lost 3 best friends ever just to have a one hit single with Nikki (who has done Jesy no favours regarding that Instagram and thought it was disgusting how they both threw Leigh Ann under the bus). I dont think blackfishing was intentional but she should of listened to other girls point of view. Have lost so much respect for Jesy and I really think after her documentary it's all gone to her head 😔
Kait Leigh Anne didn’t even do anything y’all believe everything on the internet. Those dms aren’t real and even if they were what she said isn’t anywhere close to bad as what Nicki and Jesy did. Jesy should of just listened and stop blackfishing
@@kiasms22 nah stop being one sided they weren’t fake and have been proven to be real yall use the excuse he had stories when in fact he posted the video when he was following people and unfollowed everyone after he was getting dragged. Also ur exaggerating Nicki didn’t even say anything barely bad if it was the other way around us would be praising little mix for calling her a clown and that’s what she was for sending those dms clown behaviour
Even Graham was baffled when Jesy said they didn’t talk anymore like that’s set in stone. So what if the other girls didn’t say anything about the blackfishing for so long? She takes it as a green light? That “black” jacket she wore to a red carpet was so tacky apart of sending a wrong message. I laughed thinking what a dumb way to launch her solo career. And no, “Boyz” is not successful LOL.
Same. 😓 To be honest, I am on neither side in the situation. I am a Little Mix fan who only wants the best for them but this drama needs to be done. It’s not worth it. The four of them need to talk. Like mature adults. There are younger fans that look up to them and the fans that were there for them since the beginning or in the middle of their journey. Imagine how they will feel. They don’t have to do it for theirselves. Do it for the fans. 🥺
After Sweet Melody she had a panic attack then went straight to the hospital in 2020. On 2021 when they weren’t together Jesy Nelson made a song with Nicki Boyz and Puff Daddy , Jesy Nelson was shock when the accusations directly to her
Leigh made those comments after George Floyd was unalived. She uploaded a video to Instagram where she was crying. It could be interpreted as being directed at Jesy, who at the time, was still in the band, but it wasn’t explicitly in an interview regarding her.
all drama aside Little Mix's management team still suck why release the album on the same day as Taylor Swift, a few weeks after Ed Sheeran and only a week before Adele ! it's like they want it to flop !
like honestly I don't really listen or keep up with little mix but I have heard a few songs, and I saw pictures of em and thought they looked normal until people accused her of black fishing and saying she was white, I was so surprised bc I thought she was black... I can't believe how many people black fish but there is a difference between spray tan and black fishing and I feel like ppl accused the same thing of Ariana Grande, but she didn't and doesn't and never has looked black, where as I think even not being a fan of them I thought that jesy was a poc.
‘Blackfishing is when non blacks emulate the appearance of Black or mixed people ie extreme fake tan, lip fillers, hair, accents etc. It’s a form of cultural appropriation and it’s disrespectful. They do it to black people because they don’t respect us or our experiences, kinda like how they teach us to hate our features, only to then run to a surgeon to imitate them. They emulate us in order to profit and benefit from society. Whilst this may not appear problematic on the surface, the problem is us black people are only ever viewed negatively because of our culture and appearance e.g braids or locs being viewed as ghetto and unprofessional, but then when non blacks do it, they are praised. They also blackfish and appropriate us because black people have no self respect, once again as a result of conditioning by them which started during slavery, so we allow them to take the piss out of us and mimic us and profit from our culture because they taught us to hate ourselves even more than they hate us 🤷🏾♀️ but most people aren’t ready for that conversation. In regards to the video, Jessy is emulating urban/ hood culture, she is sagging and it’s being applauded but let’s someone from the hood sag and they will be arrested because according to society it means they are gang affiliated. It’s just problematic period wear what you want, tan how much you want, act however you want but stop acting tone deaf like you don’t know why it’s an issue, and don’t be silent when people are discriminated against for the same things you are mimicking and being praised for.
Rather keep your own negative opinion. She put in blood,sweat and tears. Your negativity is not needed. What have you to show or prove rather than bad mouthing hard working artist. Am I even surprised at this point of humanity. Wishing you nothing but love and light.
@@nellyketa1767 I know rights. Why spread negativity but to just keep your mouth. It's the same people who sit behind their phones who has nothing to prove and lives a miserable life. The internet can be such a toxic place. Just hope they'll follow in the right path.
@@theofficialjadestar I think they're too far gone already, the internet is too toxic these days. Only thing people do is judge others as if they're any better. Sad
I'm a black woman but I feel sometimes, black women are doing too much! I don't support Nicki jumping in on the situation but a lot of black women do a lot to look who they are not. We wear wigs, bleach our skin etc.....we literally do a lot but no one comes at us. The hypocrisy is too much!!!
That's the point. People are supposed to feel good in their own skin, not do things that makes them look unlike yourself. Bleaching your skin is highly looked down upon. It's don't something that's applauded over the world. The same way, black fishing is not applauded.
Skip to 1:53 and their is a quote by Leigh Ann perfectly summing up why blackfishing is an issue and why everything you just wrote is idiotic. Black women (not all) bleach their skin and wear wigs because we live in a society where the colour of their skin and their hair texture is not accepted AT ALL. They do it to conform, not to profit from a select group. They like black culture but don’t like black people so stop caping and making excuses for them. They never have and never will do the same for you and this comment section is all the proof you need of that.
It's funny how Jesy is saying it was never brought up until her video like that's an excuse...she's 30, she's been in the industry for a very long time, she had two women of colour in her group for ten years...was she living in a bubble during this the entire time?! Never heard about black fishing, don't know what it is...you have to be told? Funny how white artists seem to drop the responsibility and blame on black women each time they do shit they very well know what it is, black fishing. It's always "Well, I will play dumb and capitalise off black culture until you approach me and spell it out to me and I can no longer claim to be clueless. Ha-ha, like what is black fishing, I'm so white.". I didn't have a single black person having to spell it out to me yet I managed to learn about black fishing, seeing the fact that it's become a huge topic in the past few years, not to forget BLM, HELLO! No white person in GB or America with access to news/internet/TV can claim cluelessness at this point honey, it's 2021.
I don't think they are holding anything against her, but how is tanning black fishing? I'm a latina from PR and every time I tan by the time we get out of the beach I look brown and my natural skin color is like a light toasted caramel. 😐
but that’s the thing she’s a white woman period. mums full white, dads full white. she isn’t a poc and that’s the issue bc people are mistaking her for a poc
is it true that... little mix is disbanding? pls tell me its not true pls because they are literally the people that made me believe that friendships can last forever but with Jesy leaving I'm just losing hope and if the disbanding rumors are true idk anymore, i will support them solo or not but it would just hurt because i really thought that one day i would meet them all together but i think that dream is now long gone
I feel u, I have a same question but I hope little mix not disbanding and still be a amazing group and inspire people out there, I love little mix so much since 2015 🥺
Black fishing situation jesy was approached by the group very friendly,educational manner,it is offensive to Black people, jesy used dark fake tan and hairstyles to make it look like she had Black heritage it drove a wedge between the women of course those dms and everything came out. White women you can use your tan but the issue is that when people use it to such a level and extent that you wish and desire to appear ethnically ambiguous and that is what a lot of these women like to do whether it's Black fishing or brown fishing where you appear to look middle eastern and Asian,Latin in your kind of physical phenotype and features you're changing that and you're benefiting and using the environments to open these gates and doors for you and cause a conversation for your feature look pretty in some kind of way but you then can wash that off go back to your white skin and go to sleep, whereas brown and black girls, brown and black guys are continuously targeted from the racial systems. Judiciary systems, all over the world environmentalism,you aren't stopped on the street searched, you aren't stopped at the airport and searched, you're not questioned or targeted when you people think of shoplifting or they think that your money is fake.
@@xniaxm2967 exactly American culture not Black culture. And not every black American play ghetto so why do say that black culture is ghetto? You send the wrong message.
@@xniaxm2967 there's a lot of girls with this style and they are not all black. It's a minority of minority of black people on this planet who don't like a tan. It's not Cosplay or Cardi cosplay Nicki and they aren't from the same country.
I think it's very very clear that little mix had a really impact of what Jesse was saying I think that they need to focus on them selves and realize that this is what Jesse wanted she just wanted to focus on herself focus on her music and you know I don't blame her for anything I just want to be very very clear on that
1. Jesy likes what she likes, she is not being racist or harming anyone with her lyrics or how she represents herself. 2. Nicki is one whole person who decides what she wants to and doesn't want to say, Jesy is just starting on her own and Nicki is megastar already, how is Jesy going to tell her not to talk? 3. They have been together for more than 10 years, they should be bigger than this plus there is actual people who IS offensive and racist.
Its not fair for jesy a 30 year old women to sit there a say lee and jade could of said something when they have been made to think the race issues were in their heads, jade was told she was white passing and her skin was lightened in photos while lees was used as the token black person and at the start made to look like Rihanna , that must do a lot to be told “u are not enough just being ur self “it’s not just jesy who went through that. Lee has been open that it is only in the last few years that she is finally confident and more knowledgable to speak about it
The fact that, even back in their salute days, I referred to Perrie as the "token white girl" is very telling, Jesy has been doing this for years, she has been called out for it for years, but she is trying to play blissfully ignorant.
She was called out yes but it’s been a quick thing then everyone skimmed over it and moved on it’s never been to this level until she went solo wonder why?
She can say anytime how much she LoVes the girls but her words won't heal the damage Nicki's words did to Leigh Anne and how she just listened there with a little smile.
Gosh, one minute I'm defending Jesy and the other minute, I want to talk about this. I supported her wholeheartedly but I just can't ignore what happened recently.
See leeAnne discussed with Jesy, so even though WE as black people are offended lets see if Jesy puts a picture with no makeup no filter. Let that speak and then speak authentically as you. She needs Positive PR don’t destroy what you made with your friends because it could potentially kill being a solo. Be you now we want to get know Jesy Nelson
so Jesy was basically like "ya'll shouldve spoke up a long time ago. Why yall didn't say anything before until now?" And it's like with leighAnne getting back in touch with her roots and full accepting her blackness and the dangers and harm that a lot of ppl put on her for literally being the only black woman in the group. Now that she is waking up and realizing that there were some problematic things that occured in the group she wanted to speak out on it and jesy took it as an attack instead of someone trying to educate or literally tell you that you are doing something that is uncomfortable and i would just like to inform you.
Jesy, why don't you admit you made a mistake and apologize for it? Why can't you admit that you are wrong? Why you have to make all of that about you? Have you ever heard about accountability? Because I'm not a native English speaker, but even I know what that means! Just grow up already.
So what if she’s making a song and an album rn? She couldn’t do it before because she was tied to Little Mix. It seems people from the West think that if a member of a group releases a solo song then she immediately leaves the group. Oh please people keep dividing and dividing. We’re all the same regardless of race, skin color, gender, sex, and even culture. All people are different but also the same. I understand the terms of blackfishing and etc, but there’s also cultural appropriation and appreciation. She did not intend to harm anyone by releasing the song. Nicki was fine with it, Diddy was fine with it. People know she’s not black, heck she still looks white. Her tan isn’t even the same rich brown skin tone it’s literally red.
It looks like she’s celebrating black culture not making fun of it! That’s sad that they ended like this. She IS wrong for ditching them like she did though. Lol.
Jesy was still wrong for letting Nicki talk about LeighAnn
She's the backstabber, who is overreacting. Nicky was right
If Leigh said what the screenshots said then she is wrong, but Nicki was still wrong. She could've handled it a little better than she did. After the girls took up for her when her and Cardi were at each other's throats. I hardly think it's fair to talk about Leigh in that manner and Jesy(if she loves the girls so much) should have stuck up for Leighann because it wasn't right for Nicki to talk about her like that. It had nothing to do with Nicki true and I understand Nicki was trying to take up for a chum, but she still could've handled it differently as I said.
@@rafaelfigueoa2457 no she wasn't. Imagine calling a beautiful black woman jealous of a white girl who uses AAVE and other tans? As a black woman herself she should feel ashamed
@@Ash_Ley777 Nicki should’ve just promoted the song, but she decided to make things worse for Jesy
Both sides are wrong if you ask me jesy for letting nicki diss her sister even tho i kinda agree with some points she said and leighanne too being a Hypocrite and having a friend who looks like she blackfishing as well but i still love them both
The fact that Nicki did a song with all 4 of them at that time & now she has the nerve to go on IG LIVE and Rip apart one of the most genuine underrated kind hearted inspirational women like no you don’t do that. Leigh-Anne has gone through too much of this shit and has received so much racism in her career and possibly her life as well to be degraded by Niki and Jesy
She didn’t rip her apart she just called her a clown like y’all do too much how is calling someone a clown ripping them apart ?
@@Ariii443 honey she completely ripped into her calling her a clown was one of the things she said however she was completely out of line
@@nothingbutintroverted4372 that’s the thing only thing Nicki did was call her a clown. Than screenshot Leigh commenting on her white Friend pic who also tans her skin to look black like jesy and gonna say work with heart eyes and kissing faces. Like Leigh didn’t u just go on a whole rampage about jesy black fishing, but comment positive stuff on ur friend pic who is also black fishing and don’t let me get started on her husbands racist comments towards black girls on Twitter.
@@Ariii443 this is not hate towards you or anything but just saying that friend you are talking about is mixed race and she has held her husband accountable about those tweets in her documentary you should check that clip out if you don't believe me.... K bye 👋😊
@@antaradatta7603 right on Girl.
"I literally loved my time with LM" Really? Now it's confusing me. She said in her first couple of interviews that she's sad for the last 10 years during LM. Now what. She's always confusing me..
I think she meant she loved being in the group with the girls because they were so close but the experience all together was hard for her and it obviously made her sad.
@@1louisprotector28 I kinda get it now. It's hard for me to support Jesy at this time because of her statements. Sometimes it's confusing. Thanks for clarifying! Hope they can get over this though.
@@lonewolf9957 Yeah, you're welcome. And same. Jesy and Leigh-Anne have been my favorite LM members since 2016 and I was really excited for Jesy's solo career but I can't support her, she really disappointed me.
I was confused as well it’s a lot of back and forth but Smdh I can’t with willfully ignorant people. No matter how talented they are I’m not helping to money in your pockets and you still doing the same BS.
@@GGSoneBAPBaby Exactly
Point is, after boyz came out, Jesy and Nicki sold mixers and the other girls down the river and even Leigh-Anne. Like Jesy is doing it for clout and attention. It’s best for me to support the other girls than jesy. Jesy is over for me and I’m really angry at her.
Nicki blew it for Jesy but I don’t think she intends to offend.
@@westonding8953 agreed I think it’s started out that way, she never meant to offend , but when people tell you it’s offensive or wrong and you choose to ignore it and amp it up even more , it’s very intentionally ignorant and that’s when it becomes completely offensive which is what has happened.
@@littleharmony8123 yes. But then you have to be consider that people have endlessly twisted and manipulated Jesy’s words. They will make things worse for her if she apologizes. People have to accept that it was unintentional and that she will learn, grow, and be accountable. If you want Jesy to apologize you have to give her room to be accountable and not let anyone endlessly twist her words.
Same
@@sh4un333 oh my god it’s not only about the mv, she has blackfished for like 3 years or something. and just has a problematic past, especially with her friends being racist and her just laughing it off while she literally had a black bandmate. and fans has called her out for many years for using a lot of tan. the problem is not only the music video. it’s been like this for so many years, and she never spoke about it and chose to be silent, and it just went away.
They have not been communicating. That is for sure. They address the blackfishing allegations but they did not directly accuse Jesy of it. I don't think they are holding it against her but they do indicate that she should not intentionally do it and should be accountable. If Jesy had not disassociated so much from them, I think this would have been handled better.
um anyone with a brain knows they were talking about jesy as they should be considering she’s the one who brought all this into the fold to begin with
@@nothingbutintroverted4372 yes. But they did not accuse her. They are not happy with her. They just want her to be accountable in the right place.
this!!!!!!!! the whole thing was blown out of proportion by the fans who’ve have speculated and came up with all these rumors. I’m pretty if she were still in the group and this whole situation came about it would b handled so differently.
@@westonding8953 They did... they told her about it. Leigh and her family spent two years trying to educate her on it... Jesy just doesn't listen and doesn't care enough to listen and change.
@@melaninatedgoddess3678 I meant recently, Little Mix and Jesy have not been communicating. It probably would help a lot if they did. I don’t think Jesy ignored Leigh-Anne in the past. She probably overlooked some potential problems while creating the video. You got to treat Jesy like a human. It probably was not in her and her teams’ minds that “will I offend someone”. Yes, it was a problem. They have to be accountable now. I want her to be accountable but I don’t want her to be hit with endless hate and have her apologies be twisted and make her look worse. She needs space to grow and learn and people have to give it to her.
" FRIENDLY AND EDUCATED MANNER" slaps jesy
they should have honestly
This is so sad to see 💔😢💔 those girls were so close.
Well, stuff happens in life. Nothing is perfect.
well in friendship you have your own rules, being homophobic, racist, black fishing, and doing other morally wrong things just isn't okay under any circumstance and I'm glad those three kicked her off, and I think this can make them stronger by getting rid of that toxicity and it's sad bc some people think those things are okay and encourage it but I'm glad the other member didn't. No one is perfect and accepting those things would be horrible.
@@arianazfan This is irrelevant but I love your pfp
@@X_scarlet_x1 tysm! I love urs too! another wanda stan I see hehe
Blackfishing shouldn’t even be a word. Eminem set the standard for how the future generations on white kids talk amd act like in the uk she was born in that time now people wanna complain about it double standards. Eminem shouldn’t have been allowed to do that to the kids and that was 20 years ago. Before he come along
The song, a big success ? Hun, I haven’t heard anyone talking about it
Literally the only thing people are talking about is the drama, not the actual song. The song wasn't great, and considering Jesy actually has a really great, unique voice, it didn't highlight her. She was also overshadowed by Nicki and all the drama surrounding her atm. Weird choice for a debut single as a solo artist. I do genuinely hope whatever she drops next is good because I love her voice, but my hopes dropped after boyz
right haha
Its a sucess because jesy name is everywhere maybe not for the right reasons but people are clicking to see what it is about
@@terynb4407 interesting point... I wonder how the song is performing on streaming services in comparison with people seeking out the music video. (Genuinely wondering! Not trying to start something, but it's hard to communicate that on the internet sometimes)
It’s def not a success. Maybe a success in the UK but not a major one
I mean…if it was up to me, I think Jesy is contradicting her contradiction. “Nothing but love”, but sits here and feeds into Nicki ripping apart Leigh Anne. Hhhmmm
Edit: Nicki is probably just doing this to protect her name and her bank account…there are many other ways you can go about Jesy’s situation without dragging someone else you went on a whole praise rant about being a Libra
Only thing Nicki did was call Leigh a clown, u acting like Nicki went all in on her. Called her out wanting to fight etc.
@Anne Day she didn’t even say all that just that she’s a clown not once did she say anything about manipulative or money so stop lying I was deadass on the live when they was on ig so stop
@Anne Day I’m not lying but okay not point of going back and forth we got two different opinions and we gonna keep clashing heads about it (smokes blunt)
"the song has been a big success"
billboard bubbling under 100 : yes
LMAOOOOO right?! “success” niki did all of that just to have a mediocre song do below mid on the charts
It was number one for 1 day, I wouldn't really call it a "big success"
@@steph0952 right! And it was only at #1 because it was Jesy’s first single as a solo artist. People weren’t streaming it because it was good, they were streaming it because they were curious
It’s a success in terms of little mix’s status, not being able to chart on billboard 100 for 6 years
It was number one in 30 countries
It's superlatively sad what has been happening to them. They were almost sisters and now there's a dark cloud overhead 'em telling 'em they should hate one another. It saddens me and also maddens me that I'm unable to do anything - I hope everything's finna be okay to all of 'em.
Jesy is really confusing. She said those 10 years were the worst in her life then she says something different. She says she loves them to bits then laughs when Nicki comes at Leigh Anne 🤷🤷
Well I read a comment about how her time in Little Mix with the girls, and the concerts, etc. was the best, but all the trolling and all the hate was the worst. Like I get it, but she has been very contradictory lately and I personally don’t know if I should believe her. And the situation with Nicki is just so maddening. 10 years of friendship THROWN away. On the IG live Nicki said that the “blackfish” thing was never brought up to Jesy, BUT in quite a few interviews Jesy said that while Little Mix were shooting the “Sweet Melody” video it was actually brought up to her. So she obviously lied. Why she’s acting that way? I have absolutely no clue. Anyway, she’s become quite backstabbing since she left LM and I don’t really wanna support her anymore until she apologizes for her actions.
@@franciscomarcelino3436After Sweet Melody she had a panic attack then straight to the hospital. Leigh Anne , Perrie and Jade never mention it
I think if Jesy wanted to make amends she should have at least apologised to Leigh-Anne for letting Nicki drag her publically she had the opportunity to change the topic but chose to be complict
Anyway hopefully they resolve this and Jesy understands what she did wrong (blackfishing) and doesn't do it again.
Nicki needs to sit down and stop getting involved.
exactly. i can already tell jesy will never go hard for nicki the way nicki went for jesy and it’s sad.
@Sanguine Paradise LMFAO you're ignorant
The question for me is why didn't Jesy listen?
Did the Boyz video with a holiday natural tan plus added on to it (yes she said she did add but we've all seen Jesy natural tan).
Then her Capitol FM interview JUST RIDICULOUS!
Thankfully she toned it down a bit on her Graham Norton performance.
She learned the hard way, rather than take on what her group sisters warned her about!
I don't think her takeaway from the conversation was "don't tan". What do you mean by seen her natural tan? Most likely, Jesy and her production team overlooked some problems she would have trying to release the music video. No two people have the same lines on what is cultural appreciation and cultural appropriation. Most likely, she and her production team unintentionally toned her darker than Nicki without thinking too much and that's what sparked the accusations.
Exactly
@@westonding8953 Finally someone with a brain
Jesy Nelson lied! As a result of this Nicki dragged Leigh-Anne. Jesy needs to apologize privately to them and figure this out
Nicki dragged Leigh-Anne because she apparently was new on the Internet and didn't know that fake screenshots exist.
@@dmitrievakate8320 Nicki was a victim of fake screenshots as well so idk why she attacked her.
@@user-bn4dt9du8r I'm being serious rn, Nicki is very bad when in comes to media literacy. It's the same thing that happened in the balls situation. She doesn't check the sources and reacts to rumors and fakes publicly to her audience. Like whatever, let's imagine she's a random person with no platform. At least trying to check the sources and be suspicious from time to time is very important in the modern world (from what I see from afar, especially in the US).
@@user-bn4dt9du8r that's what I was talking about basically. Almost every huge star has been there. I'm not on Twitter but they repost this stuff everywhere. There were "screenshots" about basically every somewhat relevant person. I've seen so many ridiculous "screenshots" that seemed to be made by an asleep person using Microsoft Paint. AND PEOPLE BELIEVE THEM.
she needs to apologize publicly also
Well everything actually adds up. Jesy said they actually talked to her somewhere around their last music video together and the girls said they talked to her about that... like, yeah. So I don't know if the people who say that any of them are lying in the comments have actually watched the video.
Well, she didn’t stand to correct it up to Nicki Minaj when they do the IG live. After Nicki ranting Leigh, she didn’t do anything but to laugh.
@@LalaRu-AmbisDyosa jesy didn’t laugh hard enough. After Leigh Anne sent a message asking Nohun to do a video to sabotage her career. In fact, Nicki was right. Leigh Anne is vile.
Good points you have. I agree 👏🏽👏🏽💯💯
@@Irina.212 the messages were fake. She never messaged anyone. And you expect a new mother who just gave birth and can hardly have a full night's sleep would go on IG Dming people?
@@Irina.212 Leigh is vile... but Jesy can blackfish, film her white film say the n word multiple times ( while laughing) and posting it, filming herself singing to R.Kelly and saying she loved his song... and she's an angel?
At least they spoke at last!!
I hope this is the end of the situation in public, Jesy will go on with her career and Little Mix won't break up after this album.
Sorry misread your comment. I agree though
Agree
Me too 👏🏽👏🏽💯💯 This needs to be the end of the controversy.
Yes, I agree
So don’t y’all remember when she said “ it was never brought up to me” well that was a big fat lie!
Have you watched this video
@@dmitrievakate8320 Yes did you?
@@user-bn4dt9du8r yep. Susan quoted Jesy saying that it was never brought up to her... until their last mv together. Which does add up with what Little Mix said about the situation.
@@dannyroy I don’t think she ignored it. More likely she and her team overlooked some potential problems people would have. Where are the lines between cultural appreciation and appropriation? No two people have the same lines.
@@dmitrievakate8320 It's either a)because jesy is lying
B) the group found out about the term blackfishing during sweet melody
This is like when 5th harmony tried to get camilla to own up to her mistakes...all you have to do is listen and change
and somewhat similar to what happened to AOA with one of their former members before the group officially disbandeded
@@EmelyPhan in aoa atlast mina is the villian
@M E I already knew mina is hiding something
@M E agree
@@basiclush637 i doubted that ishh, after a year? now they wanna exposed mina ? it's a lie the other members did her dirty mina is a victim.
they want our culture and to use it but not the difficulty of what we face
Exactly
Someone had to say it
Someone needs to write a handbook on what can and can’t be done as cultural appreciation.
this!
Literally. Jesy was my favorite in the group along with Leigh-Anne since 2016 and the fact that she's acting like this and was silent af when it came to Leigh-Anne getting racist comments and Jesy not saying anything during the BLM movement is enough to know she wants the looks but refuse to acknowledge the hardships and own up to her offending lots of poc just because she wants to play victim .
10 days until the album drops, can't wait!!
Unrelated but I miss the DHR and Susan and Emile singing the Monday DHR song.
I literally miss the old clevver days…
Omgggg I miss this sooo much too!!! 😭😭 And the fact that you remember “the Monday DHR song” I’m crying!!!!! Lysm!! ❤️😭🤗🥰
@@mas4583 ❤️❤️❤️ Hope to get things back to pre-pandemic days soon!
@@thankunext5602 ❤️❤️❤️
I remember when they would do the tongue roll thing. R r r rundown!
When i heard that Jesy will be leaving LM I was glad because i knew how much hate she received and it was for her "healing". But now hell no lol I'm so glad LM only has Leigh Anne, Jade, and Perrie now
they need to figure this out privately we do not know anything :)
Yep, true
Absolutely agree.
Agreed 👏🏽👏🏽💯💯
I’m not hating on Jesy but at least the girls didn’t say anything bad about her, unlike her. She’s trying to flip things up and trying to turn herself the victim.
They actually did, leigh anne and her whole family harassed her for many times, it was unnecessary and disrespectful. She should have reached out to her in private and stopped the whole throwing shade towards her
exactly. she’s trying to make herself the victim. that’s mainly why a lot of mixers are mad at her, the blackfishing and guilt tripping
@@Dena-hi4xm any proof of that or those are just rumours?
“ItS jUsT hArD fOr Me”… you? Bro stop
Jesy just apologize. No excuses. Just own up to your actions.
People are going to keep twisting and manipulating her words to make her look worse if she apologizes. They have already been doing that to her endlessly. If you want her to apologize and grow, you have to promise her room to be accountable and improve.
@@westonding8953 nobody has twisted any of her words she’s just not a good person as of right now anyway
@@nothingbutintroverted4372 yes they have. They keep making it look like she has a feud with her former band mates and that she is blaming them. Give me one direct statement where she does that.
She's too busy playing victim to do that
@@westonding8953 uh you realize she literally said in an interview that is was a feud of sorts so she put that word out there nobody else
susan, girl, I love you, watching u all the way in Africa. all the best
Omg love you so much!! Sending all my love to you in Africa!! Thank you for all your support!! You make my day! 🥰😭❤️😘🙏
@@Sussan_Mourad anytime sweety
@@naadery1055 🥰🙏❤️
I don't listen to either of their music but I I love how (minus Jessie) the band is still together and going strong
You should try gloves up by little mix, lmao you would think that driver's license is overrated
@@redbitch3362 oh yasss gloves up is so good!!
I just hate this , don’t want any updates anymore on this topic
Cry then
Then don't click on anything that has to do with it
Thanks Susan you’re a great host
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Thank you bestie! Your message means so much!! 😭🙏 Lysm! ❤️🥰😘
@@Sussan_Mourad I love you there’s nothing better than getting mad at celebrity’s on clever news with you 😂
@@miamaplesisthebestdontargu8749 awwww love you too!! 😭 I love that we get to talk all things celebrities together!! 😝🥰😂❤️
@@Sussan_Mourad thanks you so much
I genuinely thought she was black or at least mixed until this moment
The fact that I believed for 6 years that she was black (mixed black)
It’s really embarrassing
Same 😭
same I thought only perrie was white while the rest is black / mixed
first things first, Nicki needs to apologize to Leigh-Anne for her childish behaviour.
second, Jesy said they never mentioned when LM girlie said they did in friendly manner so jessica lied.
third, jesy removed that tan my girl atp. stop embarrassing yourself 😭
The Nicki I know will never do that. She is too pompus to do that.
@@movealong80 Well you do have a point 🗿now what I can say nicki set herself up
Lol how did she lie? They literally confirmed what she had already said, which is that after all those years being a group, they mentioned it for the first and last time after their last video together, before she left.
@@libertass that is literally not what they confirmed.... They confirmed that they have talked about it with her a loong time ago and fans have talked to her about it from a long time ago as well.... And the friend whom Nicki was talking about is mixed race and Leigh has held her fiance accountable for his tweets.... Ok this is not hate towards you just saying k bye 😊
Little mix never talk about jesy after leaving but jesy is shading them in her music video thats not good
little mix are so amazing
How can you say you’re a real mixer if you’re pinning them against each other all this public attention is adding fuel to the fire the way I see is like best friends got into a argument and need time to heal before they can have a decent Congo I’m sure it’s no bad blood all four ladies are incredibly busy and for people bashing jesy music and little mix music we don’t forget how hard they’re practicing for their fans the hate is not called for let them reconcile in their own terms
Facts
Just woke up to this Africa we love you and this girl's 🌍🇰🇪
What a birthday present form little mix they are dropping their album two days fatter my birthday 🥳 yay 😁
Happy birthday for the 10th of July!
SUSSAN MOURAD content in less than a week thanks love ya, (ik you don't know this but SUSSAN YOU ARE THE LIGHT ANGEL OF CLEVVER NEWS thank you for you hard work 🤗💖)
OMG BESTIE YOU GONNA MAKE ME CRY! 😭😭😭 This is the sweetest message ever, you really know how to brighten my day!! Love you so much!! Thank you for all your support and incredibly kind words!! Love doing this everyday for you guys 😭❤️🥰🤗🙏
Notice how Ariana is silent 👀
What this has to do with her?
Ik Ariana and Nicki are like "sisters", but even Ari would side with Little Mix on this one, were she involved.
If they talked to her, why didn’t she take it seriously? She says it herself that she was in a group with “two women of colour”. So wouldn’t those two women know best about how her behaviour is inappropriate? Clearly she is choosing to do her own thing and doesn’t care about ANYONE’S feelings, especially her former band mates, despite what she says.
She supported her white friend dressed like black and looked black with dark makeup, but when Jessy does it, it's surprising!
Y’all really need to do your research before you say things. Those photos going around with her friend is old, she toned down her tan a lot. Which means Leigh Anne most likely said something. Also, her friend is middle eastern.
@@kiasms22 it doesn't matter if it's old or new! She still supported her1
@@dragonslayer7018 um how did leigh gave a support to that girl if she toned down her tan a LOT which is what jesy should have done too? she most definitely told her to do so, like she did with jesy.
The thing I really dont like what jesy has done is that she sold out the other girls and her fans. Yeah it must be hard to be in a girl band like physically and mentally but it's like shes forgot all the good from it ? Like from little mix she won a brit award, was able to tour, had hits and music videos and she did have 3 very good friends but yup I think Leigh Ann said something and Jesy took it the wrong way and to be honset I think shes behaved like a spoilt brat 😅. Dont get me wrong what she went through bullying wise was awful but I always found it weird when she won her NTA that she never thanked the other girls, one day shes gonna wake up and realise she probs has lost 3 best friends ever just to have a one hit single with Nikki (who has done Jesy no favours regarding that Instagram and thought it was disgusting how they both threw Leigh Ann under the bus). I dont think blackfishing was intentional but she should of listened to other girls point of view. Have lost so much respect for Jesy and I really think after her documentary it's all gone to her head 😔
Jesy was very childish for letting Nicki diss Leigh like that. They are grown woman fgs 🤦🏻♀️
Grown woman exactly so Leigh is in the wrong to for letting people try do her dirty world being slimy and yes Nicki shouldn’t of involved herself
Kait Leigh Anne didn’t even do anything y’all believe everything on the internet. Those dms aren’t real and even if they were what she said isn’t anywhere close to bad as what Nicki and Jesy did. Jesy should of just listened and stop blackfishing
@@kiasms22 nah stop being one sided they weren’t fake and have been proven to be real yall use the excuse he had stories when in fact he posted the video when he was following people and unfollowed everyone after he was getting dragged. Also ur exaggerating Nicki didn’t even say anything barely bad if it was the other way around us would be praising little mix for calling her a clown and that’s what she was for sending those dms clown behaviour
@@kait7404 how was Leigh being slimy and getting ppl to do her work?
@@kait7404 lmfao those dm's ARE PROVEN FAKE, do your research
the fact that I didn't even know jesy was white until after this says a lot.
Same.... i had always believed she was black ... was so surprised to learn she was actually white...
Because she is
@@laurianefargues9135 she knows that she is white
I didn't know Jade was mixed before this
Me either. I always thought she was white with great tan.
The fact they told her ,and she did nothing about it makes this so much worse! Proud of those 3 girls for pushing through this.
Even Graham was baffled when Jesy said they didn’t talk anymore like that’s set in stone.
So what if the other girls didn’t say anything about the blackfishing for so long? She takes it as a green light?
That “black” jacket she wore to a red carpet was so tacky apart of sending a wrong message. I laughed thinking what a dumb way to launch her solo career.
And no, “Boyz” is not successful LOL.
As a fan, I have to say that all this drama is just making me upset.
Same. 😓 To be honest, I am on neither side in the situation. I am a Little Mix fan who only wants the best for them but this drama needs to be done. It’s not worth it. The four of them need to talk. Like mature adults. There are younger fans that look up to them and the fans that were there for them since the beginning or in the middle of their journey. Imagine how they will feel. They don’t have to do it for theirselves. Do it for the fans. 🥺
After Sweet Melody she had a panic attack then went straight to the hospital in 2020. On 2021 when they weren’t together Jesy Nelson made a song with Nicki Boyz and Puff Daddy , Jesy Nelson was shock when the accusations directly to her
Leigh made those comments after George Floyd was unalived. She uploaded a video to Instagram where she was crying. It could be interpreted as being directed at Jesy, who at the time, was still in the band, but it wasn’t explicitly in an interview regarding her.
all drama aside Little Mix's management team still suck why release the album on the same day as Taylor Swift, a few weeks after Ed Sheeran and only a week before Adele ! it's like they want it to flop !
like honestly I don't really listen or keep up with little mix but I have heard a few songs, and I saw pictures of em and thought they looked normal until people accused her of black fishing and saying she was white, I was so surprised bc I thought she was black... I can't believe how many people black fish but there is a difference between spray tan and black fishing and I feel like ppl accused the same thing of Ariana Grande, but she didn't and doesn't and never has looked black, where as I think even not being a fan of them I thought that jesy was a poc.
Girl, You are so pretty!
If this message is for me thank you so much girl!! 😭🙏 sending you love!! ❤️🥰
@@Sussan_Mourad yesss, You always look amazing ♥️♥️
sorry but Can somebody pls explain what blackfishing means?
‘Blackfishing is when non blacks emulate the appearance of Black or mixed people ie extreme fake tan, lip fillers, hair, accents etc. It’s a form of cultural appropriation and it’s disrespectful. They do it to black people because they don’t respect us or our experiences, kinda like how they teach us to hate our features, only to then run to a surgeon to imitate them. They emulate us in order to profit and benefit from society. Whilst this may not appear problematic on the surface, the problem is us black people are only ever viewed negatively because of our culture and appearance e.g braids or locs being viewed as ghetto and unprofessional, but then when non blacks do it, they are praised. They also blackfish and appropriate us because black people have no self respect, once again as a result of conditioning by them which started during slavery, so we allow them to take the piss out of us and mimic us and profit from our culture because they taught us to hate ourselves even more than they hate us 🤷🏾♀️ but most people aren’t ready for that conversation.
In regards to the video, Jessy is emulating urban/ hood culture, she is sagging and it’s being applauded but let’s someone from the hood sag and they will be arrested because according to society it means they are gang affiliated. It’s just problematic period wear what you want, tan how much you want, act however you want but stop acting tone deaf like you don’t know why it’s an issue, and don’t be silent when people are discriminated against for the same things you are mimicking and being praised for.
Blackfishing isn't the reason why Jesy's solo career will flop, Boyz is just genuinely a bad song lmao
Rather keep your own negative opinion. She put in blood,sweat and tears. Your negativity is not needed. What have you to show or prove rather than bad mouthing hard working artist. Am I even surprised at this point of humanity. Wishing you nothing but love and light.
@@theofficialjadestar lack of humanity these days is just ridiculous
@@nellyketa1767 I know rights. Why spread negativity but to just keep your mouth. It's the same people who sit behind their phones who has nothing to prove and lives a miserable life. The internet can be such a toxic place. Just hope they'll follow in the right path.
@@theofficialjadestar I think they're too far gone already, the internet is too toxic these days. Only thing people do is judge others as if they're any better. Sad
It literally wasn't anything special tbh
Jesus is your way to heaven Believe in him and you will have life after death. He shed his blood for your sins to be forgiven.
I'm a black woman but I feel sometimes, black women are doing too much!
I don't support Nicki jumping in on the situation but a lot of black women do a lot to look who they are not. We wear wigs, bleach our skin etc.....we literally do a lot but no one comes at us.
The hypocrisy is too much!!!
Not all black women do that. My mom is black and she doesn’t bleach her skin…
@@Godisgoodhonestly I don't do that either but a lot of black women do...it's a fact!
That's the point. People are supposed to feel good in their own skin, not do things that makes them look unlike yourself. Bleaching your skin is highly looked down upon. It's don't something that's applauded over the world. The same way, black fishing is not applauded.
@@kimnana7272 But the op said women tho. As in older women. Did I get something wrong?
Skip to 1:53 and their is a quote by Leigh Ann perfectly summing up why blackfishing is an issue and why everything you just wrote is idiotic. Black women (not all) bleach their skin and wear wigs because we live in a society where the colour of their skin and their hair texture is not accepted AT ALL. They do it to conform, not to profit from a select group. They like black culture but don’t like black people so stop caping and making excuses for them. They never have and never will do the same for you and this comment section is all the proof you need of that.
It's funny how Jesy is saying it was never brought up until her video like that's an excuse...she's 30, she's been in the industry for a very long time, she had two women of colour in her group for ten years...was she living in a bubble during this the entire time?! Never heard about black fishing, don't know what it is...you have to be told? Funny how white artists seem to drop the responsibility and blame on black women each time they do shit they very well know what it is, black fishing. It's always "Well, I will play dumb and capitalise off black culture until you approach me and spell it out to me and I can no longer claim to be clueless. Ha-ha, like what is black fishing, I'm so white.". I didn't have a single black person having to spell it out to me yet I managed to learn about black fishing, seeing the fact that it's become a huge topic in the past few years, not to forget BLM, HELLO! No white person in GB or America with access to news/internet/TV can claim cluelessness at this point honey, it's 2021.
Jesy has always had this distance and cold approach towards Leigh-Anne, I've just observed in their past videos together as 4 .
One Direction - Zayn leaves
Fifth Harmony - Camilla leaves
Little Mix - Jesy leaves
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Do your research! Jesy acknowledged she hasn’t been in contact w Leigh, Jade and/or Perrie MONTHS ago 🤦🏻♀️
Y’all wrong for the thumbnail 💀
I don't think they are holding anything against her, but how is tanning black fishing? I'm a latina from PR and every time I tan by the time we get out of the beach I look brown and my natural skin color is like a light toasted caramel. 😐
but that’s the thing she’s a white woman period. mums full white, dads full white. she isn’t a poc and that’s the issue bc people are mistaking her for a poc
is it true that... little mix is disbanding? pls tell me its not true pls because they are literally the people that made me believe that friendships can last forever but with Jesy leaving I'm just losing hope and if the disbanding rumors are true idk anymore, i will support them solo or not but it would just hurt because i really thought that one day i would meet them all together but i think that dream is now long gone
I feel u, I have a same question but I hope little mix not disbanding and still be a amazing group and inspire people out there, I love little mix so much since 2015 🥺
I'm little confused here what did Nicki said on IG live?
Black fishing situation jesy was approached by the group very friendly,educational manner,it is offensive to Black people, jesy used dark fake tan and hairstyles to make it look like she had Black heritage it drove a wedge between the women of course those dms and everything came out. White women you can use your tan but the issue is that when people use it to such a level and extent that you wish and desire to appear ethnically ambiguous and that is what a lot of these women like to do whether it's Black fishing or brown fishing where you appear to look middle eastern and Asian,Latin in your kind of physical phenotype and features you're changing that and you're benefiting and using the environments to open these gates and doors for you and cause a conversation for your feature look pretty in some kind of way but you then can wash that off go back to your white skin and go to sleep, whereas brown and black girls, brown and black guys are continuously targeted from the racial systems. Judiciary systems, all over the world environmentalism,you aren't stopped on the street searched, you aren't stopped at the airport and searched, you're not questioned or targeted when you people think of shoplifting or they think that your money is fake.
It wasn't on the girls to educate her. The internet always called her out on it, she should have listened
Yes, can you Imagine she’s blaming the “girls of colors” in the group for not saying anything? How immature.
Did they that African people MAJORITY of black people don't think like that at all!!!
Thank you!🙏🏻 Giving POC A bad name with all this "cultural appropriation" bullshit🙄
@@rafaelfigueoa2457 dont speak for all POC babe, speak for yourself
Ummm the African Americans she was cosplaying in her video would like a word
@@xniaxm2967 exactly American culture not Black culture. And not every black American play ghetto so why do say that black culture is ghetto? You send the wrong message.
@@xniaxm2967 there's a lot of girls with this style and they are not all black. It's a minority of minority of black people on this planet who don't like a tan. It's not Cosplay or Cardi cosplay Nicki and they aren't from the same country.
It's all just crazy
I ❤ u jesy stand up talk and he proud
All I saw in the video is a girl doing a pop song. I don't see any cultural appropriation. The video was inclusive. Music is for all.
I think it's very very clear that little mix had a really impact of what Jesse was saying I think that they need to focus on them selves and realize that this is what Jesse wanted she just wanted to focus on herself focus on her music and you know I don't blame her for anything I just want to be very very clear on that
1. Jesy likes what she likes, she is not being racist or harming anyone with her lyrics or how she represents herself. 2. Nicki is one whole person who decides what she wants to and doesn't want to say, Jesy is just starting on her own and Nicki is megastar already, how is Jesy going to tell her not to talk? 3. They have been together for more than 10 years, they should be bigger than this plus there is actual people who IS offensive and racist.
I like both… but they need to drop it.
Its not fair for jesy a 30 year old women to sit there a say lee and jade could of said something when they have been made to think the race issues were in their heads, jade was told she was white passing and her skin was lightened in photos while lees was used as the token black person and at the start made to look like Rihanna , that must do a lot to be told “u are not enough just being ur self “it’s not just jesy who went through that. Lee has been open that it is only in the last few years that she is finally confident and more knowledgable to speak about it
The fact that, even back in their salute days, I referred to Perrie as the "token white girl" is very telling, Jesy has been doing this for years, she has been called out for it for years, but she is trying to play blissfully ignorant.
She was called out yes but it’s been a quick thing then everyone skimmed over it and moved on it’s never been to this level until she went solo wonder why?
Why would there be any bad blood from your side when they did nothing to u. Wtf
Acting like a bunch of school kids bickering and arguing
She can say anytime how much she LoVes the girls but her words won't heal the damage Nicki's words did to Leigh Anne and how she just listened there with a little smile.
Gosh, one minute I'm defending Jesy and the other minute, I want to talk about this. I supported her wholeheartedly but I just can't ignore what happened recently.
How many people had to Google black fishing?
So that’s why she left…? That makes sense.
Nicki needed to mind her damn business but of course the barbz think she could do no wrong.
That drap is on birthday
See leeAnne discussed with Jesy, so even though WE as black people are offended lets see if Jesy puts a picture with no makeup no filter. Let that speak and then speak authentically as you. She needs Positive PR don’t destroy what you made with your friends because it could potentially kill being a solo. Be you now we want to get know Jesy Nelson
The amount of toxic people in these comments
I understood when Nicki backed up Normani, but this? Uh uh
I'll ignore her and just support LM cuz girl didn't even step up and protect when nicki insult LeighAnn,like,what?!!!!
so Jesy was basically like "ya'll shouldve spoke up a long time ago. Why yall didn't say anything before until now?" And it's like with leighAnne getting back in touch with her roots and full accepting her blackness and the dangers and harm that a lot of ppl put on her for literally being the only black woman in the group. Now that she is waking up and realizing that there were some problematic things that occured in the group she wanted to speak out on it and jesy took it as an attack instead of someone trying to educate or literally tell you that you are doing something that is uncomfortable and i would just like to inform you.
Jesy, why don't you admit you made a mistake and apologize for it? Why can't you admit that you are wrong? Why you have to make all of that about you? Have you ever heard about accountability? Because I'm not a native English speaker, but even I know what that means! Just grow up already.
Bruh im not a fan of little mix but all this time i thought she was black wtfff
She is a traitor, she left the band due to menthal issues and now she has her album lol
So what if she’s making a song and an album rn? She couldn’t do it before because she was tied to Little Mix. It seems people from the West think that if a member of a group releases a solo song then she immediately leaves the group. Oh please people keep dividing and dividing. We’re all the same regardless of race, skin color, gender, sex, and even culture. All people are different but also the same. I understand the terms of blackfishing and etc, but there’s also cultural appropriation and appreciation. She did not intend to harm anyone by releasing the song. Nicki was fine with it, Diddy was fine with it. People know she’s not black, heck she still looks white. Her tan isn’t even the same rich brown skin tone it’s literally red.
True, like it wouldn’t take months to prepare an album.
It looks like she’s celebrating black culture not making fun of it! That’s sad that they ended like this. She IS wrong for ditching them like she did though. Lol.
Isn't this the same thing that happened to One direction???? When Zayn left..
She stopped talking to them and I feel it’s a middle man in between them
jesy am i white nelson lol hahaha
What actually happend?