Real Commercial Instructor reviews the Carenado Piper Seneca V for FS2020!

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  • Опубликовано: 11 фев 2025

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  • @FlyFromHome
    @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +19

    Since I filmed this review last week there has already been an update which fixes some of the issues I talk about at the end - good stuff!
    List of fixes are:
    -Added PMS50 GTN 750 integration option (in tablet).
    -Fixed wing ice light focus position.
    -Fixed oxygen gauge consumption rate.
    -Fixed registration number not displayed in panel.
    -Fixed errors in some liveries.
    -Fixed passenger window edges.
    -Fixed NAV lights position.
    -Fixed dome light to illuminate the instrument panel more directly.
    -Fixed landing/taxi displaying spotlight effect after electric current is cut.
    -Fixed heading bug not displayed in night lightning panel.
    -Reduced fuel pump sound volume.
    -Improved cockpit camera view angle.
    -Minor bug fixes.

    • @CK-dt6nx
      @CK-dt6nx 3 года назад +1

      Do you know a work around for the trim zeroing out when engaging the autopilot or if carenado knows about the issue?

    • @MaxNitro100
      @MaxNitro100 3 года назад

      I would definitely pick this up so I can use the GTN 750 from real sim gear 👍🏼

    • @scootermason2746
      @scootermason2746 3 года назад

      Yes it stops them from cutting out. When I fly a real single engine Cessna 172/182 seems like the fuel is sometimes used from on wing more than the other so you’d turn on the fuel pump and switch the valve to the fullest tank let it run for a while then off.
      I use the Honeycomb Yoke and Throttle , 2 things I did is made a new Yoke Profile and disabled the Key so I can Push the Mag buttons manually……Also if you use the Beacon Light Switch on you get the Beacon Light when you Switch from Fin to Strobes so you have both working when you do that. I did not do anything special for that it just works.
      I’m interested in your fixes especially the O2 consumption rate. I have the GTN 750 too.

    • @joseparedes3717
      @joseparedes3717 2 года назад

      How do you show / hide this tablet . I bought this plane today , and i can’t figure out how to get the tablet to show on the simulator

    • @scootermason2746
      @scootermason2746 2 года назад +1

      It’s on the passenger side floor area in the pocket. Just click on the tablet to take it out and when done click on the tablet home button to put the tablet back in the pocket.

  • @carrierairwingeleven1747
    @carrierairwingeleven1747 3 года назад +10

    Bought my seneca based solely on this review. 10/10 great review and great aircraft.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +2

      Thanks! Glad you’re enjoying the plane 😁

  • @Shiiban
    @Shiiban 3 года назад +4

    Very exited to listen to my 4th favourite FFH presenter.

  • @retofed
    @retofed 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for an excellent review, spot on, informative and entertaining, done by a guy who obviously knows his stuff - very well done, indeed!

  • @ericohara2582
    @ericohara2582 3 года назад +6

    I really enjoyed this. Your instructing professionalism shows through, the stalls were brilliant.
    I would like to see a multi engine conversion course by you :) Thank you for great video ... subscribed!

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +2

      Thank you very much! That's definitely an idea for the future I think, we could do with a study level Da42 for me to be properly at home though!

  • @lknfly1166
    @lknfly1166 3 года назад +3

    Hey! I appreciate your videos, always deep tests of the bird! Tks ;-)

  • @cullendelmore2614
    @cullendelmore2614 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for the in-depth review.

  • @redtailpilot
    @redtailpilot 3 года назад +2

    Awesome airplane and review! I'm loving it, especially in VR. I fly a Piper Warrior II IRL. Would love to fly the Seneca V some day 😊

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! Yep, I’d love a go in one some day.

  • @cedvdb
    @cedvdb 2 года назад +1

    From a real Seneca V pilot here. Fuel pumps can go off after startup and must be re-engaged on setting take off power as followed:
    Set 2000 RPM fuel
    Fuel pumps on
    Pitot static/stall warn heater on
    check engine indications and CAS messages
    release brakes
    set 38" MAP (we do it in +/- 4 seconds)
    Have fun :D

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  2 года назад

      Thanks buddy 😁

    • @ronlevy7288
      @ronlevy7288 Год назад

      from another real pilot....were you able to get the feathering to work in the sim? I can't seem to find the position for that. Not sure why.

  • @edwardwright5464
    @edwardwright5464 2 года назад +1

    Great Job! Nice plane. X-Plane 11 has an flashlight built in for seeing those hard to see knobs and switches during night flying. Don't know if MSFS 2020 has one, but might be worth looking into. Have a Great Day and keep them coming. Enjoy your video's.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  2 года назад

      Thanks! Yes, there’s a flashlight feature in MSFS, I should probably try using it more 😁

  • @falcon127
    @falcon127 3 года назад +2

    CARENADO FINALLY IMPROVING,... MORE ACCURATE FLIGHT CHARACTERISTICS AND AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS!!! THEIR PROFITS WOULD SKY ROCKET IF THEY WOULD REALLY CONCENTRATE ON THESE ASPECTS OF THEIR SIM's!!! THEIR GRAPHICS ARE EXCELLENT MOSTLY!!!

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад

      Yeah they’ve turned a corner with that I think, their last two aircraft have been really good. A bit more system depth and they’ll really be top tier.

  • @cloudstrider33
    @cloudstrider33 3 года назад +2

    great review, thanks!

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

    • @cloudstrider33
      @cloudstrider33 3 года назад

      @@FlyFromHome just got the plane on sale and I'm loving it. Such a step up from the Seminole! thanks again for such an in depth review, it really helped me make the decision I feel I've learned so much about the aircraft as well as from your other reviews. Cheers!

  • @saulpilot
    @saulpilot 3 года назад +1

    Why on takeoff You apply full thotle and You pass the red line on MAP?? the green dots passed to red, the power set must be under the red line, it is correct or I'm wrong??

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +1

      The analogue gauges can read a little high in this plane. The turbo wastegates are digitally controlled in the Seneca V and won’t allow an overboost to occur unless there’s some kind of problem, so there’s no issue with setting full throttle on takeoff.

  • @flyingcyril2672
    @flyingcyril2672 3 года назад +1

    @Fly From Home, did you tried one engine operations ? it's impossible to maintain a level flight with an engine down ... in spit of an initial speed over the Vmca !

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад

      Yes, I do that towards the end of the video and that’s the major negative in my conclusion. On balance I still think it’s a good aircraft though, and hopefully they’ll sort the SE performance as the game develops.

    • @manifesting1428
      @manifesting1428 Год назад +1

      I have the same problem. Send a message to carenado a few times but always getting the same response.

  • @roysole3294
    @roysole3294 3 года назад +1

    Great Vid very informative i always like to go form Doncaster to Gamston to do my testing all the land marks are there

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад

      Yep, it’s good to do a route you know for these kinds of things 😊

  • @ronlevy7288
    @ronlevy7288 Год назад

    THank you. I am using the honeycomb set up. But for some reason I can't get props the feather! Have you been able to accomplish that with the sim?

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  Год назад

      I’ve been experiencing that myself for a while too, I think it’s something to do with control bindings for the honeycomb setup. Might be better to just remove anything to do with feathering and do it with the mouse in cockpit?

  • @smokybirch6626
    @smokybirch6626 3 года назад +2

    You mentioned that the mixture is correctly simulated for a fuel injected aircraft. Does this remain true all the way to the critical altitude for the turbochargers? Theoretically, the mixture does not need to be adjusted with altitude in a turbonormalized aircraft, right? I've heard that MSFS has improper mixture logic for turbochargers, so I'm leery about this. If Carenado has correctly simulated it, though, I think I'm sold on this airplane.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +4

      I’ve tested it up to around 14,000ft thus far and it needs no adjustment of the mixture levers until top of climb, as per the POH. That said, I’ve not been all the way up to 19k yet so I can’t confirm for certain, but I think they have found a way around the limitations of the sim, as have Just Flight with their Arrows.

    • @smokybirch6626
      @smokybirch6626 3 года назад +2

      @@FlyFromHome Fantastic! I'm going to purchase this. Thanks so much for your detailed review. It is by far the best I've found.

    • @smokybirch6626
      @smokybirch6626 3 года назад +1

      @@FlyFromHome I tried my first flight in the Seneca today. I was using real world weather, so it's difficult to know if the higher density altitude from summer weather in North America might affect the engine performance. I started losing power and climbing at a much slower rate as I climbed above 9,000 ft MSL. The turbine inlet temperature (TIT) also stared dropping a lot with altitude, whereas below 9,000 ft it was fairly steady. At about 10,500 ft, I could no longer climb reliably, even near the 88 kt best rate of climb speed. I tried pulling the mixture levers back from full rich, and there was a significant momentary increase in RPM (about 80 RPM before the prop governor readjusted). I also had more power to climb as well. Unless the real-world weather had a major effect on climb and power, I suspect there's something incorrect about the mixture logic at higher altitudes. Am I missing something?

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +1

      Yeah I just tested both the Seneca and JF Turbo Arrow up to around 16k AMSL with real world weather and they do appear to start dropping power beyond about 12k. Perhaps it's the real world weather, I'm not sure. It does seem to be a MSFS bug more than a add-on one though since all the aircraft suffer from it.

  • @rolanddutton4723
    @rolanddutton4723 3 года назад +3

    How would you say it compares to the M20? I'm temped by the Seneca but it seems to have a very similar "feel" to the Mooney. Also the engine at cruise sounds like they've just taken the M20 sound and doubled it up. Such a cool a/c though, so I'm v.tempted.
    Loving the Airwolf theme at the end!

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +2

      I've not tried the M20 but Jimbo (who reviewed it on this channel) thought it was pretty good when he flew it. This is the first Carenado aircraft I've tried which performs pretty much as per the book figures and 'feels' right, so if you value that kind of thing I can definitely recommend the Seneca (although the interior sounds are disappointing, as you say).
      Link to the full Airwolf track is in the discription!

  • @MrMark233
    @MrMark233 3 года назад +2

    what is the purpose of what looks like a HUD, there is no symbology on it?

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +2

      It’s actually a panel of heated glass for you to see out of in severe icing conditions!

    • @MrMark233
      @MrMark233 3 года назад +1

      @@FlyFromHome Thank you for clearing that up... :-)

  • @davidhood2200
    @davidhood2200 2 года назад +1

    The fuel selectors in the Seneca aren’t too terribly bad. They move pretty easily and the engine doesn’t immediately die if you move the selector through the off position. It takes about 5-10 seconds for the engine to die if the fuel selector is moved off.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  2 года назад

      Yeah I wish it worked like that in the sim! I guess custom coding a delay in the cutoff would be a lot of work.

  • @seferon100
    @seferon100 2 года назад +1

    How you activate this IPad on yoke?

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  2 года назад

      It’s in the pocket on the right side of the cockpit. Click there and it’ll move onto the yoke.

  • @mischmerz
    @mischmerz Год назад

    I tried it in VR. It crashes if I open the pilot window in flight. And it seems not to support zoom in VR to view the controls more closely.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  Год назад

      Yeah the storm window thing happens to quite a few aircraft, not just this one. I’ve never tried VR though so I can’t comment on that!

  • @andrewbergman9315
    @andrewbergman9315 2 года назад +1

    I can't help but think that this review skipped over the essential part of reviewing the handling of a twin engined aircraft - assymetric performance. Please can you advise on whether you looked at this in the Seneca?

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  2 года назад

      I do a simulated engine failure after takeoff at the end of the flight. It’s not realistic, the aircraft can’t climb on one engine at all. I’m not sure if subsequent patches have fixed this though.

  • @MrCrazyjoe259
    @MrCrazyjoe259 Год назад

    CDI button on GPS doesnt work for me, it will not switch from VLOC to GPS, even when i have a route loaded.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  Год назад

      Interesting… do you use the PMS 50 or some other add on GPS? Because if so it might need updating.

    • @MrCrazyjoe259
      @MrCrazyjoe259 Год назад

      @FlyFromHome nope, just the units that came with MSFS and the AAU updates.

  • @twistedyogert
    @twistedyogert 3 года назад +1

    I sort of imagined that there would be some sort of system that prevents the door from being opened in flight.
    Most newer cars lock the rear doors once you start driving so children or pets don't open the door by accidents.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +1

      Nope, there’s no central locking in light aircraft! (Not in any that I’ve flown anyway.) That’s why it’s important to make sure everyone has their seatbelts securely fastened at all times.

  • @RonBilevich
    @RonBilevich 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for your reviews, i really enjoy them!
    How is the Seneca V to compare with the Piper Seminole and the PA62X?

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +2

      I’d say it’s better than the Seminole for sure. The 62X mod is very good though, it’s about level in terms of realism and keeps improving. They’re both very different aircraft though!

    • @RonBilevich
      @RonBilevich 3 года назад

      @@FlyFromHome Thanks a lot!

  • @happydappyman
    @happydappyman 3 года назад +2

    One thing that's still a little weird on the plane is the CHT (Cylinder Head Temp). The reading on the digital display reads different values than the steam gauge. If I remember correctly, the steam gauge shows 400 where the digital display shows 800 or something like that. It's not so bad cause if you know what values you're looking for, both are still usable. The other thing is the fuel flow on the digital display doesn't show the flow per engine, it just shows the total flow replicated on both sides.
    Oh! and if you use the keyboard controls to control prop speed, the right prop decreases faster than the left prop, Very annoying!! (though it always magically fixes itself after about 10 minutes of flying and then they both move the same amount per keypress.)
    Otherwise It's an awesome plane. Definitely one of my favorites in the game now.

    • @happydappyman
      @happydappyman 3 года назад +1

      Oh and cowl flaps don't seem to produce much drag if any.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +1

      I need to check some of these things out I think, I remember there potentially being some errors on the digital displays. Cowl flaps are only worth a couple of knots irl too so that would be about right. All adds up on a long flight though!

    • @happydappyman
      @happydappyman 3 года назад +1

      @@FlyFromHome if cowl flaps are only good for a couple knots in real life, I think they're probably correct in the sim then. I remember thinking "Hmm, I think I'm only getting one or two knots."

  • @davybloggs1564
    @davybloggs1564 2 года назад +1

    Great rteview, I'll be trying this. One thing, the volume is very low in your vids m8.

  • @JuanAlejandroT
    @JuanAlejandroT 3 года назад +1

    QQ - what is the most realistic plane you can buy today for FS2020? Btw - great review! Bought this plane and 0 regrets

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +1

      It would be between the PMDG DC-6, the Just Flight Arrows/Warrior or the Just Flight Hawk for me. They’re all awesome, just depends what type of plane you’re into.

    • @JuanAlejandroT
      @JuanAlejandroT 3 года назад +1

      @@FlyFromHome Thanks!

  • @andrewstraatsma3136
    @andrewstraatsma3136 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for a great video, learned a lot about the aircraft, where can I find the POH info? Thank you.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! The one I had was found with a quick google search - most POHs have been uploaded in PDF format at one time or another 👍🏻

  • @scootermason2746
    @scootermason2746 3 года назад

    Hey found the Vacuum gauge…..Go to the Top Gauge where all the numbers are have the suit set on Inst straight up then go to the Left side of the the Gauge and Arrow Down…..The first page is MAP, RPM and TIT……2nd Page is TIT, GPH and CHT……3rd Page is OT, OP and Vacuum PSI. Kinda neat

    • @scootermason2746
      @scootermason2746 3 года назад

      Also on the Bottom %Power knob straight down you can page through suggested power settings MAP Power% at current PROP RPM for the Altitude you are at using the Arrow keys.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад

      Yep, I’ve since worked this out lol. It’s a funky little display 👌🏻

    • @scootermason2746
      @scootermason2746 3 года назад

      I still want to know how you adjusted the Oxygen flow.

  • @scootermason2746
    @scootermason2746 3 года назад

    Little suggestion about changing your fuel levers to Cross feed. One should turn on fuel pumps before moving them from off to cross feed and back t on.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад

      Does that stop them from cutting out? 🤣 I’ve been using the trim wheel to move them faster lately.

  • @Escylon
    @Escylon 3 года назад +3

    I'm pretty sure that the completely white version is meant for people who want to create their own livery.

  • @michaelksiezopolski
    @michaelksiezopolski 3 года назад +1

    Great review but in reality, as soon as I am approaching land and extend flaps, the plane cannot be controlled in is going straight to the ground. It feels like the flaps are down 90 degrees and far aft. The trim tab also has not much effect on the plane even thou in reality trims are working great. Single engine operations are almost impossible, no climbing is possible on single-engine and I am wondering why?
    I hope these problems are related to some configuration files or a bug, but I would love them to be fixed as I spent £24.99 on this product and I was expecting it to work better than it is now.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +1

      Have you downloaded the latest patch? Was playing around with this plane last night and it was flying as well as it ever has done. Single engine has always been wrong though, as per the video.

    • @michaelksiezopolski
      @michaelksiezopolski 3 года назад +3

      @@FlyFromHome I have found the problem. It was one of MSFS settings as I described my problem, many other people were reporting the issue and it was just a setting from "Realistic" to "Modern" flight characteristic.
      Now the plane seems to be working fine. I am appreciated tech support pointing out in forums what is the problem and how to resolve it.
      It would be great if all planes are provided with the necessary settings in order to work properly or set up the config file properly in the first place. Carenado has made a great product but the lack of proper instruction to the user settings required for their product or simply properly set config file they have failed me and many others like me miserably!
      Hopefully, someone from Carenado will read this post and correct such problems in future products.

  • @SeaNNyTizzle
    @SeaNNyTizzle 3 года назад +1

    This or the Seminole for a better buy?

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +2

      I much prefer this, personally.

  • @dukesc5562
    @dukesc5562 3 года назад +1

    Can someone put me out my misery? What is the small transparent screen in front of the pilot?

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +2

      It’s a heated glass panel - I do try to explain that in the video just before takeoff 😜

  • @speedbird1598
    @speedbird1598 3 года назад

    Carenado developed a pretty bad to mediocre reputation for their X Plane and P3D aircraft. Do you have any experience with those?

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад +1

      I don’t, but I’ve heard the stories! This one seems to be an exception though, aside from the asymmetric performance it’s spot on!

  • @joespeed1952
    @joespeed1952 3 года назад

    Carenado sure has the looks down, but I still think the flight dynamics suffer compared to something a little more realistic. Most of the default airplanes in MSFS like to float on landing and just not fly right. It only has 220 HP per engine, so it’s a bit of a dog compared to something more high performance like the Baron.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  3 года назад

      I think this aircraft in particular does a decent job dynamics-wise, it hits all the book figures (so long as you keep it on two engines!). For my control setup, it certainly feels fairly heavy too. In terms of performance, a cruise of almost 200kts or so at a reasonable altitude is at the upper end of what piston twins in the size category can expect. The Baron is a good 500lbs heavier, burns more fuel and unless it’s the turbo version you won’t get the high altitude performance the Seneca can manage.

  • @davybloggs1564
    @davybloggs1564 2 года назад

    A 'review'? This is more like a feature film! 1.75 HOURS is Waaaay toooo long for a review, and IMO, unnecessaryily too long. Half this time should be adequate for a single SIM aircraft review, as good as this is. And, the volume is too low.

    • @FlyFromHome
      @FlyFromHome  2 года назад +1

      That’s why there are time stamps in the description, so you can skip to whatever part you’re interested in. There are plenty of channels making 30/60 minute videos on these planes if they’re more to your liking, I’m sure they’d be happy for the views 🙂