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- Опубликовано: 12 фев 2024
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Nortent of Norway were kind enough to send me their NEW beefed up Vern 1 solo 4 season tent to test. If ever there was a rival to the Hilleberg Soulo I think this could be the one.
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Nice comprehensive overview that mate, cheers 🍻 👏
Looks great Andrew. And congrats on the 10K!
Superb video this. I've been looking at new tents and I've seen a few different reviews of this one as I've also been looking at the Soulo's. Most of my camping will be in the wilds of Scotland and this tent really does look like it'll do the job nicely. Thanks for the reveiw.
That’s going to be one hell of a popular tent!
Looks like interesting tent about half price of my Soulo and 200 g heavier. Will be interesting to see reviews in real situation like windy Cairngorms. Question is obviously reliability, quality and strength. At least for now I feel that my Soulo is a better choice, not only it was tested for years in the most difficult situations, but also guaranteed high resale value(not that I am planning to sale mine any time soon). Thank for the review. Always interesting to learn new gear developments.
Good video and review as usual Andrew 👍
The original and best....THE FIRST LOOk by Mr Andrew park.
Looks good! *waiting patiently for all the Soulo listings on eBay*
Haha, that might just happen 😂
Best unpacking vid I’ve seen for ages.👍🏼
Thanks 🙏
Looks like a good tent Andrew, first time I have seen this, look forward to your review when you feel better.... 👍😎
Atb ⛺️
This does look like the final solution to solo backpacking 4 season tents! Mine will be tested fully on the cape wrath trail in a month or so. Great review
Thank you Andrew.. it does look very good value... Possibly one for next winter 😉 👍👍👍
Yes deffo a hefty one fit for winter, but overkill most of the year for sure Jim. A
Great video Andrew, can't wait to receive mine, I really like some of the attention to detail like the bungees for the guy lines, vent clip on the guy, inner adjustment. Just one thing to note, on Nortents pitching video for the Vern one, they feed the guy lines back through webbing loop and over the cross section or back through itself on side guys. Not sure how much difference it would make.
Cracking look at the tent, as we've come to expect from you, Andrew! A great addition to the market from the looks of it. The ends look to be more aerodynamic than the Soulo's (I'm a Soulo owner). Vestibule looks big, and pitching looks easy (love the guy line retainers). I wonder how the weights of poles + pegs compare between the Vern and the Soulo? The Vern comes with 16 very sturdy stakes compared to the 12 lighter weight stakes you get with the Soulo, and the Vern poles look to be longer perhaps? I wonder if the combination of squeezing the pole crossing points together with the guy line tape and subjecting the tent to high winds could result in the poles crushing each other and failing? I'm sure they'll be up to the job. It's really good to see a Hilleberg rival come on the scene to give us all something to consider! It's certainly got me wondering... 🤔 James.
Cheers Andrew, looks really good. Stitching issue, what did Nortent say about this? Does the tent bag label come in Scotish on all tents?😊
Looks a really nice tent, but... head room is a real issue. I dont know why tentmakers dont think this through and make their tents a minimum of 100cms internal height. I get really fed up with having to crook my neck in tents that for a few cms more would be absolutely brilliant.
Hi David, I am 6'1" and think its fine.
@@Fellmandave1 - Okay, maybe it just came over as a tad small. But if you're good with it then it looks a bomber of a tent
Nobody sits in their tent bolt upright
The taller a tent the more susceptible to wind it becomes.
@@davidcressey They always look small on video.
it looks a great design for practicality, I cant help think that with the longer poles being so wide apart and crossing over so low down that the roof might just cave in in high winds, I think this is why the poles on the soulo are so upright. but we will see. will be interesting to see it in higher winds for sure and nice preview video, thanks.
I had a similar thought. I'm wondering whether ultimately it might need the end guys looped up and round walking poles handles a couple of feet off the ground before pegging to avoid potential caving or if the profile is so low it might not happen. I'll have to try this in real conditions
Ordered mine lastnight cant wait for it come and compare it my my suolo black label
Now that'll be a good comparison, nice to have both to try !
8:12 the inner fabric is polyester? I thought, it was nylon. It looks like Hilleberg's DWR treated ripstop nylon.
I can't wait to see this tent in high winds ...side by side with a Hilleberg Soulo.
Website doesn't mention anything about inner tent fabric.
Morning Andy. I like it you set up an leve it up to see how it gets on 👍. I do it with a new tent.. Hope u get over the cold soon. Atb Andy
Cheers, itching to try it but this bloody cold 😷
9:53 here is a detail I'd to put the focus on: the six corners of the inner tent buckel into the outer tent with adjustable straps. Hilleberg tent as well as many other manufacturers put toggle into the corners too. Getting these toogles unfastened can be a real hassle. Had that a couple of times in freezing conditions...
Foot prints are a must for me.
Protect the tent and reduces condensation
Looks very robust. Guyline set up looks very strong. Good 1st look as usual Andrew. I guess lack of height 'payoff' is less target for that infernal SW up here in Scotland. Just scored a Lightwave G20 ultra on the Bay myself so that's tent # 20 for me. Better rule this one out on marital grounds 😂. ATB.
Class video
Disregarding weight for a minute (which is silly I know) this could very well be my favourite tent now. As always I have some concerns with thia kind of venting system but it ticks pretty much all of my boxes. Curious to learn how it performs, and luckily for me you just put that video up 😊
I think you'd like it ! A
Buy a cheap footprint Then cut it up, you will never run out of patches. Nice looking tent mate and a nice surprise to get some bloody good pegs. Also like the hooks on the vent for the guidelines,
Great looking tent. Does it actually need seam sealing though? I cant beleive a rent of that price and quality as a hilleberg competitor needs it. That would put me off straight away.
If my previous version is anything to go by I don't think so , shouldn't leak any more than a Hilly I hope ! Currently sitting out for 48 hours getting blasted by hail and rain so we will see 🙈
@@AndrewParkOutdoors look forward to seeing the result 👍
Does look like the sort of tent that being stuck inside for 24 hours wouldn’t be too onerous!
If only I could trick someone into carrying it for me😅
Thank you.
Thanks for watching :-)
We wants it, my precious!
An enan & a soulo combined ? Heavy for a 1 man tent but it will be bombproof. 👍🐶
It's a tank in all ways ! 😁
Im actually looking at their new Vern 2 beefed up version for me and the lad, seems a similar level of
solidness.
Price with footprint and shipping atm is 508.29 Pound sterling
I think we've all just found our bomber tent at a great price.
For now, I suspect the prices will go up as the reviews of it go out and its reputation precedes it, it was the same for the Hilleberg Soulo.
I quite like it and the price is good. The issues for me are weight, internal space and bulk. For example, my Hilleberg Unna (with 10.25mm poles and extra guylines) is still at least 500g lighter and has more internal space. Granted, this has a large vestibule, which the Unna does not (there are ways around that with the Unna). BUT, this is a few hundred quid cheaper!
Where did you get your 10.25mm poles, or are you just using the Hilleberg ones from the Staika ?
Yes, they are the Staika poles 👍
Got the tent at home, too! Has arrived yesterday. Wonderful piece of equipment. Will you seam seal Andrew?
I'm holding off while I rain test it first. If it's like my previous Vern I hopefully won't need it. 😁
Many thanks for the answer! I will take mine to the Lake District this weekend! Will see whether seam sealing would have been a good idea...@@AndrewParkOutdoors
Just an FYI the foot print is not included with purchase. It is a separate purchase. I emailed the company and I was told footprint is not included in the purchase because not everyone wants a foot print.
Looks a great tent. . . . I'll be looking to get a new one before the end of this year......maybe this? Subd. Thought I had already?!?😊..... See you like Bruno Pisani . Such good films!
Love Bruno ! Thanks for the sub 🙏
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i see there are so much similarity between hilleberg and nortent for example way of attach pols and material used for hooks and other . are there any pantent problem here or all are normal design in both brand ??
I think there's so much of tent design that's generic and use the same parts sourced in china that it's really hard for tent brands to patent or trademark. The exception seems to be Vango's storm internal guy system that seems to scare most of the competition from copying weirdly ?!
Please don't seam seal it. Take one for the team and try it without first. I am probably not the only one who believes and I guess hopes that seam sealing these tents might not be neccessary.
But since I am too afraid of going out without seam sealing my older Verns in foul weather, I was hoping you would brave it 😁
That being said, thanks for this preview. And double thanks for showing the spacing inside. I am 6'3" and this video has made me less sceptical on weather or not I might fit.
Looks a great tent Andrew. Do they sell a footprint to go with this? Simon
Yes they do, full floor coverage including porch and clips in but it adds 300 grams
I say it again: Try out the Hilleberg Unna ;)
Looks awesome !
have you been able to test how waterproof the tent is? looking at this tent instead of the soulo.
Yes, it got a 24 hour thrashing with no leaks on the Vern 1 ( the Vern 2 wept water at the tie back elastics but I seam sealed those spots )
This tent seems to have a weakness in the pole structure Front to back….that will have to be mitigated!
Great review but now I really don't know what to buy lol was getting the soulo but now may be tempted due to the price and also see alot of people moaning about water coming in on the zips on the soulo
There’s nothing whatsoever wrong with the zips on the soulo. And mine has never let water in. If you see some of the conditions I’ve been in you’ll know it’s had a good test. I’ve never had the “jangling noisy zips”. Dunno where that’s come from
@AndyWardle no I saw your review Mate was very good but have seen others showing water coming through zips. My issue with buying this new tent is the availability as its gonna sell like hot cakes I think
@@marcjeffreypresents try selling it in 6 years though. See if you get a great price. Soulo? Guaranteed. I’m not a fan of tents that have to be seam sealed. But I’ll probably get one 😂. Tent addict
@AndyWardle yeh mate 100 I currently have a nallo 2. So happy with is and know I'd get a good price if I cone to sell it. So you telling me to get a soulo 😆
@@marcjeffreypresentsgo with your heart mate. The only soulo I know let water in was my mates. He sent it back they sent a new one. No problem since. Do a bit research this nortent might be the greatest tent ever. But needs proving. It’s an unknown. So will be watching the field tests 👌
16 pegs and 3 poles seems a more complex design than might be warranted in many use cases. Not really a fair weather tent obviously.
Yep it's one for heavy weather, not summer really i guess. A
I like it alot. Is it Christmas yet 😅
It'll be more expensive by Christmas, buy now, that's what I justify to my wife with gear :-)
@@AndrewParkOutdoors haha good idea 💡
What are the differences between the Vern 1 and the 'new' Vern 1? The website is a little vague.
They are very different beasts, the old one is a lighter more backpacking friendly single hoop design with an optional add on cross pole. The new one is three pole with four crossing points but much stronger ( if heavier )
@@AndrewParkOutdoors Thank you! I guess the 'PC' one is different again?
As already said to Dave of the Fells - looks the bollox
My friend just got his and the stitching on his is poor! So many stitches gone astray
Oh dear, I think they may have to address QC with their Chinese factory
Would there be enough space for my wife or girlfriend in pinch, whoever was available, or a is it definite one person?
I was thinking about this as well, if you used the footprint and fly only deffo 2 people option , with inner up it's you and a dog or a lot of close spooning 😁
Are these the same guylines that Lanshan has?
No . they feel more like rougher 'rope' than the lanshan guylines I had.
It's a heavy tent to be sure, but you can absolutely see why it's on the heavy side. Looks a really nice, well thought out tent that I suspect is superbly stable in high wind.
Looks better than the Soulo, but the extra 300g and bulk will be an issue for many
Yep quite possibly !
ill stick with my soulo...
Oh look another "" impartial "" review of the new Nortent ! 😏
I can understand your cynicism 😆 but other than the weight I gave to say I think this will be huge hit and good to see someone take on the Soulo
@@AndrewParkOutdoors I don't underst6and the love for the Soulo, its heavy , poorly vented, renowned for condensation, small, overpriced. On here all the Soulo lovers who always claimed Soulo is fantastic are praising a tent that highlights & resolves all the problems that they claim were not an issue on the Soulo. Funny thing is another Soulo lovers claim was its great for bad weather in Uk partly because of the high HH, yet this tent has a low HH of 3000.
Discard the footprint at the scales, but then use it when showing the tent in the field….
I generally don't use footprints and use a superlight polycro sheet however a lot of folk will and do want to see it hence I included it. A
@@AndrewParkOutdoorspolycro FTW 👍
I hate pitching tents and then having to put in the inner. I wouldn't part with my Cloudpeak 2 for a Nortent Vern for that reason. It has a footprint and I like the pitch and inside, especially in rain and snow. I would not want to spend another five minutes putting in the inside part of tent while I am freezing cold, in vicious cold winds in the pouring rain.
You don't have to, it's pre attached the same as the cloud peak ( I used to have one too ) 😀
@@AndrewParkOutdoors Ah, ok. I had one tent where you had to spend an age attaching too big toggles to tiny rings to get the inner pitched. That thing was an absolutely nightmare. It had a thin bag with a zip in which you had to put the tent, poles and pegs. It took me three days to close it. I can't remember the name. I think I was so traumatised by it, I deleted it from my mind.
This tent has so much condensation it's almost unusable, dangerous product
You have one?
@@AndrewParkOutdoors I don't own this tent - not me personally, we just tested on a river side and in the morning there was a lot of condensation inside (unfortunately I can't do more testing)