KTM 1190 Adventure & BMW GSA LC Acceleration and Road Test
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- Опубликовано: 1 сен 2014
- Riding with legend of ET roads, Brian on his new KTM1190 Adventure. Acceleration and top end - no contest really but handling wise, BMW is right there with KTM. GSA was on Michelin Anakee 3 (which I don't like at all), KTM shod with Conti Trail Attack2. By no means was this "scientific" test - just 2 enthusiastic riders comparing notes (bikes). No winners really, it all boils down to personal preference. However, when KTM launches new 1290 Adventure, BMW better have the answer. I wonder how Ducati Multistrada would rate against KTM. Shall I make a plan ? Let me know in comments.
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Nice video thanks, but were you so fast for those blind and sharp curves with the Anakee 3s?
Nice riding, man. Thoroughly enjoy your video.
Thank you !
Thoroughly enjoyed that vid. I've not seen these two great bikes ridden like that before. Made me want to suit up and get out!
+Andrew Webb Thanks Andrew. Brian is ex national racer, known to absolutely kill superbike riders on his ex GS Adventure. Now he has switched to dark side ;-)
I'm a happy KTM owner now. But last year in the alps I had no problem keeping up and passing BMWs on my old Honda CBF1000F. BMW is top comfort, luxury and all the BMW is, that is good for a lot of people. However, after riding a KTM you just can't find any other bike as enjoyable, fun and exiting. I don't think i would get the R version thou.
+Javier Gonzalez I like KTM but my issues were finish, that heat coming from rear cylinder that was frying my manly parts and high speed instability. Had similar feeling on BMW XR... GS is super stable at any speed.
Lol... I had to get out of town quick today (and on Friday traffic is very bad)... Had a huge grin on my face...just carving up on freeway. To a degree, once you're over certain horsepower, it doesn't matter what you ride, anything is exciting in it's own way. They better get 150HP of new GS, it would go like a stink. KTM just wants to go... I have a video somewhere on my channel, have a look, I really rated that bike.
I am sticking with my GS, it would be interesting to see what they are going to do - Ducati has just launched new Multistrada that's off road biased.
Gaz, same to you my friend. KTM, Ducati, BMW....you can't go wrong. Brunette, blonde or redhead... I love them all ! ;-)
+Ezyrider64 Cool man, the 1290 is to big for me thou. I do love the new 1190. Best fit for me. Good luck with that beast and enjoy the hell out of it!
Good vid, and good riding. The new Duc MS and 1290 test would be cool.
Brian Pope They're not in the country as yet. Ducati MS test ride is long overdue, thanks for the suggestion.
The bikers in Spain say, "It is the Indian, not the horse"
Amiaire Conmigesita And Spanish are right ! Gracias !
Great vídeo! Been really looking for a vídeo where the gsa gets ridden like this!anyway, whats the problem with the anakee 3?
Few things I don't like. Front is very noisy, feel is rather vague (on the road) and rear is single compound - so you don't get that mileage nor the grip on the side.
You handle that GS superbly. Agree about Anakee 3's, my f800GS has them on. Subbed
Cheers, thanks for sub!
Great video and a great bike!
Thanks Lou !
Interesting to watch.Was down in ET on sunday but on a f800 adv with Knobbies.Underpowered trying to keep up with the 1200 lc's!waiting to pick up my 1200 gs adv this week.Whats the gearbox like?thks again for the video
Did you ride with Lyndhurst group ?
Gearbox is....erm...typical BMW box... a bit clunky.
Very nice. I love my ktm 1190
Nice ride !!
Howsit man nice vid ... where are you guys jozi or Cape town ...looks like a awesome route for my 1190
Hi there, we are JHB based but this was in NE part of SA, close to Kruger National Park.
@@miragegp oh okay awesome man anyways ride safe bud .
Hermosas motos las dos! Muy buen video. Saludos desde Argentina!!
Cheers from South Africa!
You know how to ride a GS, very nice videos...
Bur Ozt Thanks Bur.
Would love a repeat of this ride with 1290S, multistradav4s, s1000xr, gsa.
nice roads:-)
threepot Thanks ! ;-)
Nice video, although some sketchy passing of vehicles🧐. As you mentioned it comes down to personal choice as both are great bikes. I've got a 1200GS, I have ridden a friends KTM 1190 R, but I prefer the BMW because as soon as I started off with the KTM I immediately didn't like the sound of the chain drive. Coming from the BMW it sounded as if something was loose. But both are great bikes.
What roads were these on as in.. location
Ian Carter South Africa, Lowveld.
Thanks for the vid i have a gs1200 wc and to be honest speed is not important its more than fast enough for an on/off road bike I love it to bits. I will remember not to pick a fight with a KTM though
Unless you fit a turbo ;-)
Yeah but how fast do you need on the public highway, reckon you have better rider skills or the GS is more than a match through the bends. Reckon you may be the more experienced rider!
cheers
tony
+antonoat Either way, I love my GS ;-)
Cheers Tony and thanks for your comment !
Sabie✌️
Yes it is!
GSA = Hummer
KTM = Wrangler Rubicon
Something like that :-)
Both are great bikes , KTM is lighter faster and more fun !
Darrell N I agree, but KTM is not that much ahead as people are led to believe.
miragegp It depends on the rider.
miragegp no, they're much FURTHER ahead. I've ridden both bikes: the KTM squashes the Beemer like a grape.
Jack Ol'Bean Where exactly does it squash it ?
lighter, feels much lighter, handles better / quicker on the road, MUCH better on the dirt, much quicker, nearly $10K less money,... I mean seriously, name a metric. And that's the 1190. It's a much more dynamic bike in every way. Squash!
KTM is pure adrenalin...
It's nice. But not my cup of tea. At least the old 1190Adv.
Thank You for sharing. I'm looking to add a larger "Do It All" bike for faster, longer two up rides than my current DRZ400-SM Supermoto is good for to my stable. Much better to see, hear and watch a bike being ridden to it's fullest in the real world, by a real owner having some fun, competitive rides and sharing open, honest opinions about their individual choice in machines than reading any one of the many dozen or more magazine or "professional" video comparison tests. And I agree... you need to find a similarly talented and aggressive group of owners to come out and play with you and your crew. Say, one with a Multistrada Pikes Peak, the new KTM1290 SA, and a nicely hot rodded (pipes and tune) VStrom Adv and then a broad mix of fine bikes like the ST1300, a Concourse 14, maybe a F6B, a 2nd Gen Hayabusa, ZX-14R and a FZ-09, run them up some twisty, dusty bits and film it all up for us to enjoy ! Now THAT would be a fun, informative and nicely rounded out group run! Until then, keep having fun and keep sharing the footage with the rest of us!
/BRAKELATE/
Brakelateatmsn New Multistrada video coming soon, also BMW F800GT (on the track scraping pegs) and R1200RT LC with speed assist. Cheers !
I went from the 1200r to the 1200 GS LC to the s1000xr and recently back to a GSA, the best bikes are GS but that XR engine...
I feel the same. Had XR for couple of days, there should be a video or two in this channel. I liked it a lot but overall I like GS better. How do you compare GS to GSA (I did the opposite switch) ?
miragegp I sold the XR cause it was too much " need for speed" highly addictive, the clutch was too heavy and the comfort was reasonable. The GSA compared to GS: the handling of GS is slightly better (but not that much better considering the weight difference). The comfort of the GSA is slightly better and it has this rough look that I like. I do big travels, i.e. 1500 km / 16 hours nonstop from Andorra back to Amsterdam and I found that with the GS (2013, one of the earliest LC models) I had to stop every 280/300km to tank. At the end, I think it comes down to looks since it rides the same. Next time maybe another GS but I also dig the Multistrada, although I prefer shafts over chains. If they could make a S1000xr/ GS, that would be amazing.
I have never done more than 900 per day on GSA but had one 1450 trip on GS. I was toast. Really tired and it took a while as I have decided to travel over mountain passes. More fun but very hard to keep focus for hours on end. All BMW has to do is bring GS/A to 140HP mark... It might cannibalise XR sales but we know that GS/A is their bread and butter, so sure they won't mind. As road only bike, Multistrada is fantastic but I am so used to (light in my case) off road ability of GS that nothing else really works for me. Not as one do-it-all bike anyway.
miragegp 150 hp must be technically possible since they have this engine. Why did you change GS to GSA anyway?
GS felt more responsive to me. Also, easier to handle off road as seat height is slightly lower - I'm 6ft tall.
Lets see what happens when big bro 1290 adventure come to the party !
No doubt 1290 will be faster but ultimately, these are not sports bikes. BMW will still sell in great numbers. People are used to shaft driven bikes, not that keen to lubricate chains on heavy adventure/touring bikes.
miragegp Lubricating And cleaning a chain is very easy,Being able to change gearing is a plus also its much easier to deal with broken chain than shaft.
Unless you ride on the track, not much point to change sprockets/gearing. Broken chain can be huge issue - I don't think it happens often but it still requires more maintenance than the shaft. Also, no need to adjust tension on the shaft. I don't mind chain on superbikes though.
BMW stands for „riding pleasure“!
Something like that mate
lol you were in road mode on 2nd gear roll off dynamic is far faster on the uptake !
Derek Cumbers Full throttle is full throttle Derek. Do you think the outcome would have been any different in Dynamic mode ? KTM is faster bike (I ride BMW), why is it so hard to accept that ?
miragegp People think electronics play a role. As you said, full throttle is full throttle. All electronics change is the responsiveness getting to full throttle. I seriously am going to book a flight to Joburg and meet up with you somewhere and steal one of your "connections" bikes to come jol it up boet..
MrSly870 Any time !
can't compare the bmws comfort and endurance with a ktms speed and agility btw i ride a g650 xchallenge i just love the motors bmw produce very strong and reliable never left me on the side of the road
I have to say, KTM is strong, I might try 1290 just for fun.
Some one needs to tell the BMW rider how to change gears on a bike with a FULL throttle gear shift.
Bike did not have shift assist...
Not a fair test. Says more about the gearing than anything else. Anyone who has ridden the KTM will tell you that you rarely select top gear under 150 kph.
TheRealFuzzyDunlop What are you trying to say here - KTM was in the lead all along.
want a fast bike ? buy a sports bike. want a go anywhere global all terrain bike ....? there's only one. The BMW LC Adventure !
+Nigel Collinson I am on GS now. Love it more than Adventure ;-)
+miragegp more the the "adventure" model ?
the adventure is the ultimate. The smaller person would feel more comfortable with the basic GS.
I am 6ft. GS is just sportier machine for me. I do 90% road riding and GS suits me better.
Same bike with same pilot, no doubt KTM win.
Gigi B I think so to :-)But GS can be ridden almost as fast as KTM, I was trying to prove that point.
8:48 ktm is disappeared
Yes, KTM is stronger bike.
MirageGP yes ktm is faster but bmw engine is better because when ktm engine finish about the health of the engine bmw can do double
Yes all right. But when ktm stops it starts to BURN. Never ride a so hot bike. For 5 months in the year you hate it.
One of the reasons why I didn't like it....in traffic it's REALLY bad (hot)!
Ktm is faster but there is a reason why bmw is the best seller by far
Faster yes, better....hmmm - I don't know :-)
Sry, but they are not riding fast in any sense. Ok maybee, in terms of the numbers displayed on the signs next to the road. So every argueing this or that bike is faster is useless, especially if it is put in context to this video.
Nice riding
+MrScottZhang I am prepared to take you as a pillion, perhaps you can write a comment after the ride ;-)
+miragegp
:D nice
+MrScottZhang Let me know when you're ready :-)
+miragegp i'm sorry but ktm is too too fast for gs. believe me there are 40 km of difference
+miragegp for your bike should be faster a simple 990 smr.
KTM bye bye
KTM is stronger but power is not all....
Of course it's faster. It weighs less and has more go.
Hp not go
+Eric Hall Same thing :)