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Shooting - a sport for all
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- Опубликовано: 30 дек 2020
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While the gun may seem to be the expense it is actually the consumables that cost. The annual cost of shooting 100 sporting each week is £2500 approx. My advice; don't buy on price only - buy a gun that actually fits you. You will shoot better and enjoy it more!
Got to get the State Schools involved with the School Challenge...
Well done again, David. All the very best to you and the Oxford Gun Company for a happier and successful New Year, as you continue your excellent promotion of the pleasure and benefits of shooting as a sport for all who wish to try it.
It’s all good if you have a “shooting school” or a clay ground that’s open to people who want to get into shooting .... in Cornwall we don’t even have a clay ground that’s open during the week days to practice let alone open for people to try out clay shooting. Cornwall needs this as I know so many young people who would love to get into the sport but just struggle to get started.
Paid 50 quid for my first gun absolutely loved it and then eventually moved up to a Silver Pigeon. it's not what you've got it's enjoying it👍
Welldone david lovely little vidio thank you for taking thd time . I shhoot my cg now my lamber was a gr8 starter gun i had a rizzini after that cos stock was a bit lower and longer . Then at 18 working saving hard got my first browning 325 30in mc .
Happy new year to you all at TSC
Good advice as always , and if you don't like it you haven't lost a lot. cheap guns can shoot just as good as ones many thousands of pounds .after all if you point it in the right place you will hit your target.
Sound advise there David, i used to have a couple of Lanbers,(the working man's Browning). The Baikals are a good farmers gun to chuck in the land Rover or tractor for vermin dispatch. I owned a few Winchesters over the years too, (101, pumps and many semis), a step up from the Lanber and keep going.
Well done OGC.
There was some cross pollination going on, but the old 101 wasn't from the Miroku plant. It was similarly a Browning inspired design, though. The new 101 is an unrelated design.
My first over and under was a Baikal 611 double trigger 1/4 & 1/2 great rabbit gun. Solid as a rock @ £175 new. But when i took it clay shooting someone made comment that it was made from a Russian tank and 2 drain pioes welded together lol.
Happy New Year to u and your Dad.
Thank you and Happy new year to you too.
I started with a lanber sportier deluxe and then moved onto a beretta 693. Still got the lanber and won't part with it.
Really interesting to hear about the issues to look for in a secondhand gun. It would be great to see some examples of ‘problem’ guns and what to avoid.
Main checkpoints are loose/off the face.
Cracked headwork on stock
Barrel rivelling or bulges/dents
And then just cycle through some snap caps if you can't fire it to see if action works/ejects.
You can tell a hell of a lot about a shotguns condition by just looking it over. Walk away from banged up guns and any gun that wobbles kn the face
I owned a Beretta 692 Black, a Beretta A400 extreeme and a Baikal S/S. I sold them all last year . The Baikal was totally knackered but would buy another. Not the best by far but you can use it without worrying about damage. Built like a tractor and shoots. Happy New Year.
Great job David!
I have a SBS Baikal and an AYA Yeoman. Both are definitely 'budget' guns, but I get just as much use and pleasure from them as I get from my Holland and Holland and my Browning. But........... I am not afraid to take them bunny bashing or wildfowling! Horses for courses!!
Happy new year to you and yours.
Lanber or any Rizzini are my favourites
David, thank you for sharing a very good video with lot's of great information Stay Safe and Happy New Year.👍👍👍
Very welcome
Just recently got SGC and I went for a lanber. I know nothing about guns really , other than what iv read or seen on yt, but it works for me ! I'll upgrade eventually but I think I'll always keep the lanber .
Really enjoyed this video. Very much hoping to buy my first shotgun in 2021. If I get my SGC I'll be coming straight to the Oxford Gun Company.
Agree with what you say about the Baikal. My first Shotgun was a £100 side by side Baikal, great for rabbits, squirrels etc.
I would say though, (and I appreciate you're talking more about clay shooting in the video) but I think the hardest thing for shooting being a sport for all is that the cost of game shooting is so much and there are so many difficulties in new comers to shooting being able to acquire land to shoot on. But Clay shooting certainly doesn't have to break the bank.
Thanks for your videos. Happy new year!
I got my Daughter a Stoeger Condor youth O/U 20ga on sale for $400 USD. That dang thing is better balanced and swings better than my O/U. I find myself shooting it when she isn't around just because it's fun.
Fabulous information as from all of your videos.. the main thing I think that would say it could be for every one is, not the price of the gun.. it's the price of lessons and club memberships.. also cartridge's.. to go buy a gun yes spend from anything 50 pounds upwards.. yes go to a place like yourselves to get the advice you need.. the try before you buy is a great idea.. but again... If clubs keep the prices so high then the shooting world is and won't be for everyone.. but everything costs money to run so it's a sad expensive circle..
Another great video! Keep up the great work!
We will!
Great video with Great information !!!!!
Glad it was helpful!
I have a browning 725 sporter2 £1800 and a bargain basement sabel side by side £90 , I shot my highest round with the sabel which doesn't even fit me , so, so long as you point it in the right area you'll break clays .
Practice practice practice...
The more gun time you have, pays dividends later....
(A wise man once told me) 😊
I have a lanber 12 guage semi auto sporting shotgun i paid $400.00 for it. I trap shoot with it and i love it. It shoots nice and is easy to clean
I will put one third down for a Franchi Affinity Elite in 3.5 12 gauge and a 26 inch barrel. Or a Franchi Instinct SL 12 gauge over and under...
Thank you for your feed back I do agree they are a good gun too.
I would have mentioned chokes.
You forgot the cost of a gun cabinet.
The true cost of clay shooting isn’t in the capital start up costs, it’s the costs of the clays and cartridges. 40p per clay non-caddied at David’s ground and £126 for a one hour lesson with 50 clays and cartridges. Cheap cartridges come in at about £65 per 250. That Baikal soon looks like false economy!
People get lost in the what gun to buy question, fit is most important but going a quality used gun over a new cheap gun is the way to go. that winchester , lanber , old mirokus etc find one in good cond, and you can't go wrong. You even luck out and find ones that havent been used or very little.
Ata, yildiz etc are built to a low budget, they look ok and go bang but nobody will be making a video in 30 yrs saying buy a 30yr old yildiz or ata. Those winchesters can have 100s of thousands of shells and still be going strong. Put them side to side with a new ata/yildiz and you will see the quality levels
Browning didn’t own Winchester when the 101 was made though? They purchased Winchester simply because Winchester’s guns at the time were far superior quality to Browning, so they bought Winchester to close down a competitor and stick the name on a gun made in Portugal called the Select, no where near the same build quality of the 101 made by Olin Industries in Japan.
That old Winchester 101 was before Browning bought Winchester.
Yes they were.
Good advice but I live in America. So CZ and Tri-Star are on my radar. Or a Yildiz light weight 12 gauge over and under.
I would go for the Yilditz you know it will last.
Cz is the best of the ones you mentioned as in the states they offer what a 10yr mechanical warranty on them? See how they fit, forget yildiz, their entry levels alloy actioned are made of cheese, try as many used guns too, winchester 101, miroku
Brilliant video as always David - thank you. One thing I always wonder is that should you spend £500 on a Winchester or buy a brand new shotgun such as an ATA or Yildiz with a warranty and is steel proofed. Happy New Year!
If I was you I would go for a Yilditz or a Winchester if you can find one we do have some Yilditz new ones in The Oxford Gun Company for just over £500 I have 3 left and I have a Winchester too if you want to give David a call in the shop tomorrow on 01844 238 308 I can help you.
Depends what fits the best out of the box.
Ata's are good for the money, specd very similarly to a 686, built ok
Yildiz are ok for the money too but they arw no where near the build quality of that winchester
don't let a warranty sway you from a quality used gun to a new cheap gun
Look at a winchester 101, miroku next to a yildiz or ata and you will see the levels.
Far better materials, metallurgy, finishing, and overall build design. If you can find a good cond used quality gun that fits my suggestion is always go that way. Far better made guns than a yildiz or ata and you get your money back on them.
@@fullchoke01 Thanks for a very knowledgeable reply. Am wary of buying an older gun in case lead shot is banned and I am stuck with a gun I cannot shot. However cheap new shotguns like the Yildiz are steel proofed and would seem the best buy to a beginner like myself.
@@TSCTheshootingchannel Thank you for a very generous offer of help. David and Johnny always seem to duck out of the £500 market regarding new vs second hand particularly with a possible lead shot ban in the UK. Would we be stuck with an old gun we could not use?
@@kevingrimshire7462 yes the new turkish made guns are fine for entry levels offer everything you need 3inch/ proofed etc, but if lead is ruled out there are other options bismuth ,tungsten matrix etc . I know of several winchesters happily shooting steel , steel doesn't like tight chokes which is the main issue, a steel proofed gun with a full choke will still bulge a barrel. Happy gun hunting mate, try as many as you can before you buy.
Where does the Browning B-SS Sporter rank?
It’s a great sport unless you’re trying to get a licence during a pandemic. 10 months waiting so far. Fingers crossed for summer ‘21.
If you give David a call on 01844 238 308 he can help you with that.
He will be in the office tomorrow.
Does somebody know if there is a 3 1/2" side by side 12 gauge shotgun or a up and under or are my researches useless?
Yildiz wildfowler 3.5inch
£75 for a license
£150 for a shotgun
£50 for a vest
£25 for earphones
£12 for glasses
Shooting jodhpurs, priceless
UWU
I wish you wouldnt lean on an the gun with the barrels on the ground....It stretches the action and is such a bad lesson for newcomers