@@andrewbeaton3302 Well couldn't a laser scanner operate like an fdm printer and utilize a geometry examination at say, X height it scans at and can identify if an error is occurring. Etc.... Or a larger scanner.. The programs are already there, its simply a sensor and the machine requiting to where its currently printing or had printed a section.. doesn't have be the live print edge in the solution. to what the geometry is expected to be at any height... Thus you can even get... a % of failure... meaning the model currently printed is 98% correct... 50% correct might be a failed print fro ma support collapse... 10% may be just a blood...
Probably not as difficult as explaining that you dropped $3k on a 3D printer as a truck pulls up and unloads a crate which looks like could store the Ark of the Covenant.
@@mymrmelon3503 Never had a problem painting on resin... on my Mars2Pro details are so crisp that with a good primer details are easy to paint... In a large format printer like this you are searching for volume print, or one timer big print... an it can be superfine detailed.
If you're mass producing, the only real use is for prototyping and that could he done on a Saturn in pieces. I guess to each his own You're going to farm out the no matter what if you're doing any volume
I'd love one of these resin 3D printers to make physical figures of my characters! It'd be so cool to be able to do that. Definitely on my list of things to get.
I'm glad you mentioned the cost of the resin. That was something that caught me off guard when I got my larger printer. I started with a Mars 2 pro, primarily to paint miniatures and busts, then upgraded to a Photon Mono X specifically for the much larger build volume. Printing miniatures, busts and models, even printing solid, a large print that used the full build volume on my Mars would max out at about £10 - £15 worth of resin, with most thngs being much less in the £2 - £4 range. When I got my photon and decided to print a Mando helmet, I had it sliced before I realized it was going cost nearly £80 in resin.
I just got my Peopoly Phenom L this weekend. I started some small 2-4 foot print test jobs and they came out awesome. Now I will test out a full size helmet, just not sure which character to print.
@Rogue Mentality So where can we buy your $400 Peopoly Phenom L clone? Oh wait, because the BOM != end price where construction, QA/QC, distribution and support.
What is the cost in electricity if the 3d printer is running for 72 hours to print a helmet? Just need to know as I'm thinking of getting into the 3d hobby print... Thanks.
This is a great printer! and as much as I would love to get one this thing is coming in at $4230.74 Canadian ill stick with FDM printing for a bit or until resin prices come down, My wife would kill me if this thing messed up and I wasted $100 lol. Great video though! makes me excited for the future!
Will you be getting the Peopoly Phenom Noir? It's Price is slightly higher than this one so i would love to know what the advantages of the L over the Noir are or Vice Versa. I am definitely going to purchase one or both of those!! So if you have affiliate links for those let me know!
Due to the huge print volume, even with a 4K screen there are very visible layer lines. Didn't expect that. It's still an impressive machine. But $3K is what I usually spend on a car.
Which printers are more prone to failure, resin or filament? I'm looking at this printer as my first 3D printer to print prototype parts for my business. Thanks
For casters this would be idea. Home printing not so. But the increased volume on one bed is good. I noticed that on my Saturn. But I wouldn't like to change that FEP sheet :) Great they are coming out with these machines, but personally I think they need to also work on the resin. Make it tougher and a LOT cheaper. Again with a build area 6 x bigger you need x 12 other stuff, IPA Sonic cleaners, tissues etc. Makes it a very expensive machine to run but the results are quite amazing
Yeah this is definitely a business focused printer, if you've got a miniature printing company or a prop printing company already up and running then these would be an awesome investment. If you're just printing from home...eh...not so much.
@@luketfer Just out of curiosity, why do you feel this not ideal for home printers? I'm looking at getting into 3D printing and so far in my research I love the idea of being able to create larger prints at a faster speed.
@@ven11235 Mainly the cost, this printer is NOT cheap due to the sheer size of it. If you've got the money to burn then sure BUT for your average consumer it's a bit too out there. It's about $2,500 dollars, which as I said if you've got the capital for it and you're into either cosplay, prop making or mass printing miniatures then it's ideal but most hobbyist 3D printers aren't looking for something like that. For at home printing, especially miniatures focused, the Elegoo Mars or Anycubic Photon are a lot smaller but they're also a fraction of the price at around $375.
@@luketfer thank you very much for the advice I appreciate it, I'm still figuring out what I'd like to make. I'm split between getting a few smaller printers and creating smaller cheaper items or getting a big printer to make bigger more detailed designs that I can charge more for. Really loving the creative ideas I have seen people creating, so I'm hoping to create things that aren't prevalent at the moment, though with so much to learn I should probably crawl before I run
@@ven11235 If you've got the capital spare I'd recommend getting one of the cheaper and smaller resin printers first off just to learn all the basics on (how to do supports (because sometimes the auto-support program will miss a few, on a miniature it's maybe five bucks of resin wasted, on a massive cosplay prop, that's 100 bucks of resin gone to waste), how to orientate things, that sort of thing. Though I imagine you've been watching a lot of videos on the subject so you've probably got most of it covered but still want to get some basics down. Then there's the whole deciding on what your want your business to be focused on, if it is going to be highly detailed large scale pieces then yeah this printer is definitely the one for you. There are some people that have entire businesses through MyMiniFactory just selling the STL files to miniatures. Beastarium does some amazing dark souls inspired miniatures that I long to throw at a D&D group.
Thats pretty fast. I printed a 72hr print of sone claws on my tiny elegoo mars. I am printing bullets right now, almost 24 hours, but its at .01mm resolution to smooth the round noses.
Massive, may have to look into this one. The Transform is nice but even at it's size I'm finding it limits some of the stuff I want to print and what some others want me to print without cutting things up.
question what program do you use scan your head ? been looking into 3D printing for cosplay and discovered your channel and you have given me a lot of info on printers and what to consider when i start printing parts.
Hi Jesse! I am choosing a printer. I sold my Form 2, decided to take it cheaper. Tell me, please, what would you advise to choose from two printers Frozen Sonic mini 4K or Elegoo Mars 2 Pro? According to indicators: print quality, reliability of work, stable operation, quality of printer manufacturing. Thank you in advance.
*_A Lifesize awesome looking female superhero(the face details of the actors of that superhero is going to blow everyone's mind away!). Do it in sections like the head, then the arms, legs, chest, etc... Put it to a vote on which Superhero or villain everyone would want to be printed! They can suggest their own superhero to go on the list, etc... Make the inside hollow of course. You print something like that I swear you can sell it for $10,000 to $20,000 in a heartbeat after you're done showing it off. Go to comic-con and you'll be the hero of the show if you have a few of them printed up!_* _And then offer a side business of pre-order of printing out their favorite hero and by what size. Half Size $5,000, 1/4 size $2,500, Full size depend on the complexity $10,000 to $20,000, etc..._ *If I had that printer I'd be doing it already. I do have an ELEGOO Saturn MSLA that I have not set up yet.*
This is perfect for someone that has a studio for prop making or model-making they can produce a master pattern from the 3D print and then take a silicone mold and make resin copies from the silicone molds in much quicker time and much cheaper in the cost of regular resin compared to 3D print resin.
I haven't been convinced by resin printers so far. The regular Ender 3 can go to 0.04mm (40 microns) layer height, is 10 times cheaper to buy and operate and the material is totally safe... like... Resin printers are impressive, but bang-for-the-buck, they'd need to be significantly better/faster for me to consider getting one at this price range.
i gotta admit im a bit pissed off, i saw a video you did late last year on the Phrozen transform , and ordered one, it should arrive in Australia next week, thinking it was the bee.s knees and would do me fine for a few years and i dropped $3500 for this bad boy ....yes not cheap here , and now i see theres something even better , i cannot keep up and running outer money
Where do you put these to handle the resin safely? Just in the garage or outside? Is UV cured resin safe after it's washed and cured to actually put on your face?
I will have soothing like this ONE DAY, but I'm only just now buying my first fdm printer and first printer period, so I'll chill for a while on expensive purchases!
Well, I did not take your advice, I bought this as my first printer! Now I am trying to figure out if it is set to the right voltage.... when I peek between the vents I see some red numbers that say 115, so I am assuming it is correct or does opening it reveals more? Love your videos, very informative and well put together.
Indeed. When it comes to precision for miniatures/statues this printer is not the first choice. The Epax X10 4K Mono is at the moment the most interesting printer.
Some of the smaller finer lines of the Black Panther helmet look like they've either been accidentally filled in with too much primer, or a build up of resin wasn't properly washed out of them. How do you go about cleaning prints that big?
*_The cost of that printer is pocket changes! Especially for what it can do!_* *If you know what you are doing you can make all your money back in less than a month's time!*
I have a big resin printer but the reason I don't do cosplay masks is because the smell of the mask or having resin smell that close to your face is not good unless you have found a way to resolve that?
what kind of resin does this machines uses to print? amazing video btw I´m thinking into get my first 3d printer soon, thanks so much for the info and tips
What would you suggest between this and the saturn 2 8k?? I know the saturn is smaller so more time to print pieces to where this one you can do it once.
yeah im not understanding why mono screens used in them all just makes sense and they are actually cheaper screens and don't have to be replaced as often
What are you thoughts about a resin printer setup in the bedroom, any thoughts, suggestions or solutions on how you think it could be done successfully/managed?
I'm not into figurines and cosplays, more into thick mechanical parts. Have you tried printing anything thick flat on the bed without any supports? Most of the resin printers won't hold anything like that.
Do you have any unsponsored videos? You make every resin printer seem like a good choice when they aren’t .. would help someone like me out. Maybe you have recommendations for people who post good reviews that aren’t paid for it? Thanks!
If resin was not as expensive, I would buy it right now, it's the perfect resin printer, but 100$ to print only 1 helmet that would cost me maybe 10$ on my CR-10 S5.. No thanks, maybe when the prices will drop
Also, for those that sell on things like etsy etc. Are these people printing their own models, or are they printing and selling the prints of other peoples models and that's still legal? Very new to the space.
Just got my phenom L and love it. Thx for amazing videos you create Since my sculptures take 100+ hours what’s the best way to create silicon molds using resin printers?
Thank you for all your helpful videos. I have room in my shop for one 3d printer and currently have a large FDM, but with this large build volume I'm leaning towards selling my FDM and going exclusively with the Phenom L. For you personally (and others out there) do you use FDM for anything anymore after something like the Phenom L? Besides some of the pain in the butt maintenance/cleanup/post-cure stuff I hear about with resins, time-wise it doesn't seem to hold a candle to the amount of time I spend post-processing FDM prints to get them almost to the same point as a raw resin print. Any thoughts?
Hey.. I'm seriously considering buying a Phenom L for it's print size, but wondering about the Noir. Would you get the L and wait till they have an update later to bring it to Noir speed and quality.. About those mask. Is 3d Resin toxic at all? Like, say if someone did wear that and sweat would it affect the print? I guess you'd want to cover the print in a light surface or can you buy medical grade Resin? I want to print off a wide range of things. So they don't have food safe resin's yet.. Oh, ok, biocompatible. I know a dentist that's been looking to invest and if I set up a service I can definitely bring him is as a partner. I guess you'd want to use a smaller, highest definition for those prints but on a Noir I could print them all for him in one batch.. Decisions, decisions.. Plus I want a lot of room to explore my prototypes.. Finally printing science has evolved to the point where I can make my imaginations take shape and go from there.
Have they come out with a newer version of this using a mono screen? Have you seen the Yidimu Falcon Max? Can't find any reviews of it but seems impressive on paper...
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If I had to print something myself, I wouldn't want anything less than this, in time and quality. That tells me printing is still not where I would like it to be :D
I lived in Philippines and am interested to have this printer but my only need to consider might be the support maintenance of this printer and buying the right resins. Any reseller in Manila? Thanks
@@UncleJessy whats your chitubox settings for this? Default profile or did you adjust? I've had 3 attempts / 3 fails with Elegoo's Fast Grey so I'm giving up on that brand for the moment
Can you print larger parts if they fit in diagonally... I have a 20" X 5" X 4" part I need to print with high quality like that and it would be worth it if I could fit it in there.
siraya.tech/products/fast-1kg-abs-like-resin-smoky-black-special I haven't seen it anywhere other than Siraya Tech's website and I can't wait for more stock to come in because I am very interested in getting my hands on some.
After watching ALOT of Vids on the Phrozen Transform & Peopoly Phenom by various you-tubers, you get my thumbs up man!! Very clear and informative :) Ive decided to go for the Peopoly Phenom for easy of use with Chitubox, BUT i can't seem to find the manufacturer let alone the Phenom's profile in chitubox. Can i Pick your brains with a few questions unc? lol 1) Where/how do you get the profile for the machine in Chitubox or have you just set it up manually with the print space parameters? 2) this leads to my next question; the settings you use for the resin. Im using ELEGOO's abs-like grey resin (good bang for the buck) currently on my ELEGOO mars, and the thing thats getting me is the settings (cure times/exposure times) for different resins, can you help or advise me on setting mine up? Im new to this game but decided to try prototyping some parts myself instead of spending loads with others, and have some fun along the way! Im homing my skills in chitubox with supports etc but its the settings for resins thats going to get me! Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
You should really discuss how you'd recommend the curing and cleaning post steps for things of that large a build volume. Do you just toss it in a tub of Simple Green and let it sit in the sun?
Thanks for this video, Unc. I'm gonna buy it for sure. The price dropped dramatically, possibly due to COVID 19. They said it wouldn't be shipped until September lol. WORTH IT.
Jesse, I'm new to 3D printing and I bought a Mars last week and have since binge watched like 20 hours of your content (very awesome BTW). I've been making game parts for Terraforming Mars. I can see that this is going to be a serious new love. What I'm concerned about is resin. I started with a number of 500g bottles of water washable elegoo resin as I thought it would be easier from a cleaning standpoint. Long story short. I have come to realize that if I'm going to do this a lot, I'm going to mow through resin. Can you do a video on the various manufacturers, styles, colors, odors, cleaning requirements, quality and pricing for the major manufacturers and when and why you choose to use one over another?
Ameralabs has an article about almost every aspect that has an impact on print quality and also a file for 3D printer calibration. But they haven't tested different types of resin.
Nice! I started printing that cthulhu, then my uv leds crapped out in my printer. Still waiting for a replacement. Also, how much are replacement screens for that printer? I've killed two on my little Prism so far.
Would love to order one, but the cost of shipping to the UK is massive!, and there is a 20% tax to pay on arrival. So all in all looking at $4570 or in Uk money £3780 I think. Will have to settle for my little Mars 😞. Keep up the good videos 👍🏻
I've asked this a few places but have yet to get a response, so maybe some of you resin guys can chime in; Coming from the large format FDM world, I am heavily interested in switching to resin printers for the increased quality as I primarily print high res figures and engineering models, but for me the cost of a real 'large format' resin printer is currently inaccessible (like the 5k USD range). Looking at the components, what makes these machines so expensive? 2k/4k LCD screens are pretty affordable, vertical screws and fine adjustment stepper motors are downright cheap, and one would think that a few bright minds could scrap together some functional code to port over the working bits of fdm software to make a resin printer operate similarly along with its inherent properties. As I understand the basic principle, you're using light-reactive resin, exposing a layer at a time at xx seconds, and the screw raises the print platform at your given layer height. Presuming all of that is correct, why don't we have 27"+ build plate printers with 400mm+ build heights that cost what these little guys do?
If I wanted to get into 3D printing with resin could it be done in a small apartment? because I heard it gives off a strong lingering smell and I wouldn't want my neighbors to complain of the smell.
It depends on the machine and the resin. Organic plant based resins cost about $10 more per 500ml so not that bad. This is the printer I have: no smell whatever resin you get (till you open it), never had a problem with the neighbors.. A well ventilated room is a must for any resin printer though. www.creality3d.shop/products/creality3d-ld-002r-uv-resin-lcd-3d-printer
We just got a phenom noir and we are getting very soft fuzzy details with the recommended settings in the user manual, we tried three types of resins. What settings and resin did you use for the tchala helmet and bman masks?
Nice video. Would have liked to see how hard it is to level a bed that size or if they use some tech to auto level it. How's the vat system? Does it tilt and peel like the Prusa or is it stationary? Tilting would be nice for suction forces of that size plate. How about replacing the FEP? That's gotta be pricey and painful to get the tension right on something that big. The screen, you mention it's 4k, what's a replacement cost? Is it rated for a measly 600 hours like the smaller printers? Because if so, you just took up 1/5 of its life with what you just printed. Unfortunately thier site offers none of this info either. For $3k, it's not just about size.
@@peopoly i know this is the reason why this makes sense for such a build volume in the price range. i would use it more privately and love to print big things. upscaling is my favorite function for 3d printing.
What should I print next on this MASSIVE resin printer?
a big Mars or Earth Planet (which will look like a lithophane when you put a light inside) 😉
How about something that screws together so we can see how the printer performs on parts that required a nice tight tolerance?
Stormtrooper helmet just for size reference
I have a couple files I need printed haha
another awesome vid man I say make a new batman cowl maybe one that already has that added texture in the model that be cool to see
Looks amazing but I don't know how I would explain to my wife that this failed print still cost us $100.
lol right
hahaha so right. There needs to be an A.i program to avoid these failures!
@@andrewbeaton3302 Well couldn't a laser scanner operate like an fdm printer and utilize a geometry examination at say, X height it scans at and can identify if an error is occurring. Etc.... Or a larger scanner.. The programs are already there, its simply a sensor and the machine requiting to where its currently printing or had printed a section.. doesn't have be the live print edge in the solution. to what the geometry is expected to be at any height... Thus you can even get... a % of failure... meaning the model currently printed is 98% correct... 50% correct might be a failed print fro ma support collapse... 10% may be just a blood...
Let's give this 5 years, see where the price can drop to.
Probably not as difficult as explaining that you dropped $3k on a 3D printer as a truck pulls up and unloads a crate which looks like could store the Ark of the Covenant.
Omg... That black panther mask sold the machine.... Waiting for my stimulus 💯💪😁
Man if it’s for professional use it’s perfect! 30hours for a helmet and almost no postprocessing!!... man I’m consedireing it a lot!
Yeah but resin is often a pain in the ass to actually paint detailed things on it
@@mymrmelon3503 Never had a problem painting on resin... on my Mars2Pro details are so crisp that with a good primer details are easy to paint... In a large format printer like this you are searching for volume print, or one timer big print... an it can be superfine detailed.
@@mymrmelon3503 Just sand it, prime it, and sand it again. If you can't paint on top of that there's something wrong with your paint!
If you're mass producing, the only real use is for prototyping and that could he done on a Saturn in pieces. I guess to each his own
You're going to farm out the no matter what if you're doing any volume
I'd love one of these resin 3D printers to make physical figures of my characters! It'd be so cool to be able to do that. Definitely on my list of things to get.
wow! I love how far 3d printing has come. Might be time for me to finally buy a printer :)
did you pull the trigger?
How much resin does this thing use??? I have an Elegoo Mars and I’m worried about wasting resin on prints that are only about 2 inches🤣
I'm glad you mentioned the cost of the resin. That was something that caught me off guard when I got my larger printer. I started with a Mars 2 pro, primarily to paint miniatures and busts, then upgraded to a Photon Mono X specifically for the much larger build volume.
Printing miniatures, busts and models, even printing solid, a large print that used the full build volume on my Mars would max out at about £10 - £15 worth of resin, with most thngs being much less in the £2 - £4 range. When I got my photon and decided to print a Mando helmet, I had it sliced before I realized it was going cost nearly £80 in resin.
I just got my Peopoly Phenom L this weekend. I started some small 2-4 foot print test jobs and they came out awesome.
Now I will test out a full size helmet, just not sure which character to print.
now we're talkin! love to see the build volumes increasing on these resin printers.. 😎💪✌
I hear ya on that! Crazy to see where things will be in another year
@@UncleJessy Bed size has been the only thing keeping me from a resin printer.. This is a game changer! ✌
Dude now I'm even MORE stoked to get mine at the end of the month!! Thanks for the feature man!!
Amazing file man! You’re going to love this machjne
Can’t wait to see what you do with it, Nikko!
Complete game changer at a big cost though.
@@idjmic its actually not that bad the ultimaker 3 extended costed around 4500 and it didnt have half the build volume
@Rogue Mentality So where can we buy your $400 Peopoly Phenom L clone?
Oh wait, because the BOM != end price where construction, QA/QC, distribution and support.
Id still say the helmets need to be made larger, so you are able to include a layer of padding for long term wear. Those Cons do take a while
What is the cost in electricity if the 3d printer is running for 72 hours to print a helmet? Just need to know as I'm thinking of getting into the 3d hobby print... Thanks.
Resin prices need to come down for this thing to even make sense.
I'm going to wait a week for the Phenom XL. Or maybe two weeks for the XXL.
it has been 3 weeks. is it out yet?
You're gonna need a bigger ultrasonic cleaner
This is a great printer! and as much as I would love to get one this thing is coming in at $4230.74 Canadian ill stick with FDM printing for a bit or until resin prices come down, My wife would kill me if this thing messed up and I wasted $100 lol. Great video though! makes me excited for the future!
Its not the $4230 for me its the damn shipping $801.95 canadian that just kills me. not even including duty and import if im not mistaken.
I agree.
Will you be getting the Peopoly Phenom Noir? It's Price is slightly higher than this one so i would love to know what the advantages of the L over the Noir are or Vice Versa. I am definitely going to purchase one or both of those!! So if you have affiliate links for those let me know!
Due to the huge print volume, even with a 4K screen there are very visible layer lines. Didn't expect that. It's still an impressive machine. But $3K is what I usually spend on a car.
For that price, go buy a Form 2...
Which printers are more prone to failure, resin or filament? I'm looking at this printer as my first 3D printer to print prototype parts for my business. Thanks
What's your post processing process with a printer this size? Do you still have to wash printed parts in IPA and cure them in a UV oven or something?
Hey Jesse, I know this is a stupid question but does it matter what manufacturer I get for the resin? Or can you suggest some good quality product?
hello if you can help me answer me. If I buy this printer, is there an after-sales service and a warranty extension? thank you
Just bought one of these for my work. Excited to play around with it :)
For casters this would be idea. Home printing not so. But the increased volume on one bed is good. I noticed that on my Saturn. But I wouldn't like to change that FEP sheet :) Great they are coming out with these machines, but personally I think they need to also work on the resin. Make it tougher and a LOT cheaper. Again with a build area 6 x bigger you need x 12 other stuff, IPA Sonic cleaners, tissues etc. Makes it a very expensive machine to run but the results are quite amazing
Yeah this is definitely a business focused printer, if you've got a miniature printing company or a prop printing company already up and running then these would be an awesome investment. If you're just printing from home...eh...not so much.
@@luketfer Just out of curiosity, why do you feel this not ideal for home printers? I'm looking at getting into 3D printing and so far in my research I love the idea of being able to create larger prints at a faster speed.
@@ven11235 Mainly the cost, this printer is NOT cheap due to the sheer size of it. If you've got the money to burn then sure BUT for your average consumer it's a bit too out there. It's about $2,500 dollars, which as I said if you've got the capital for it and you're into either cosplay, prop making or mass printing miniatures then it's ideal but most hobbyist 3D printers aren't looking for something like that.
For at home printing, especially miniatures focused, the Elegoo Mars or Anycubic Photon are a lot smaller but they're also a fraction of the price at around $375.
@@luketfer thank you very much for the advice I appreciate it, I'm still figuring out what I'd like to make. I'm split between getting a few smaller printers and creating smaller cheaper items or getting a big printer to make bigger more detailed designs that I can charge more for. Really loving the creative ideas I have seen people creating, so I'm hoping to create things that aren't prevalent at the moment, though with so much to learn I should probably crawl before I run
@@ven11235 If you've got the capital spare I'd recommend getting one of the cheaper and smaller resin printers first off just to learn all the basics on (how to do supports (because sometimes the auto-support program will miss a few, on a miniature it's maybe five bucks of resin wasted, on a massive cosplay prop, that's 100 bucks of resin gone to waste), how to orientate things, that sort of thing. Though I imagine you've been watching a lot of videos on the subject so you've probably got most of it covered but still want to get some basics down.
Then there's the whole deciding on what your want your business to be focused on, if it is going to be highly detailed large scale pieces then yeah this printer is definitely the one for you. There are some people that have entire businesses through MyMiniFactory just selling the STL files to miniatures. Beastarium does some amazing dark souls inspired miniatures that I long to throw at a D&D group.
I don't know anything about 3D printing but 30 Hours sounds like there is a LOT of room for improvement.
Thats pretty fast. I printed a 72hr print of sone claws on my tiny elegoo mars. I am printing bullets right now, almost 24 hours, but its at .01mm resolution to smooth the round noses.
Massive, may have to look into this one. The Transform is nice but even at it's size I'm finding it limits some of the stuff I want to print and what some others want me to print without cutting things up.
GOD damn $3000 price tag... Holy Shit!!!!!
Is the printer still working for 3 months?
Is the printer durable?
question what program do you use scan your head ? been looking into 3D printing for cosplay and discovered your channel and you have given me a lot of info on printers and what to consider when i start printing parts.
8:12 hello, hey what happened to the 2nd mask from left to right, at the bottom, are this supports failed and got stuck to the part??? thank you !!!..
What about pricing for consumables ? How much for the FEP film, LCD ? What’s the duration of the LCD? Still 400 hrs or 100hrs real world?
Good questions ... hidden costs = sucker!
Hi Jesse!
I am choosing a printer. I sold my Form 2, decided to take it cheaper.
Tell me, please, what would you advise to choose from two printers Frozen Sonic mini 4K or Elegoo Mars 2 Pro?
According to indicators: print quality, reliability of work, stable operation, quality of printer manufacturing.
Thank you in advance.
*_A Lifesize awesome looking female superhero(the face details of the actors of that superhero is going to blow everyone's mind away!). Do it in sections like the head, then the arms, legs, chest, etc... Put it to a vote on which Superhero or villain everyone would want to be printed! They can suggest their own superhero to go on the list, etc... Make the inside hollow of course. You print something like that I swear you can sell it for $10,000 to $20,000 in a heartbeat after you're done showing it off. Go to comic-con and you'll be the hero of the show if you have a few of them printed up!_* _And then offer a side business of pre-order of printing out their favorite hero and by what size. Half Size $5,000, 1/4 size $2,500, Full size depend on the complexity $10,000 to $20,000, etc..._ *If I had that printer I'd be doing it already. I do have an ELEGOO Saturn MSLA that I have not set up yet.*
This is perfect for someone that has a studio for prop making or model-making they can produce a master pattern from the 3D print and then take a silicone mold and make resin copies from the silicone molds in much quicker time and much cheaper in the cost of regular resin compared to 3D print resin.
I haven't been convinced by resin printers so far. The regular Ender 3 can go to 0.04mm (40 microns) layer height, is 10 times cheaper to buy and operate and the material is totally safe... like... Resin printers are impressive, but bang-for-the-buck, they'd need to be significantly better/faster for me to consider getting one at this price range.
i gotta admit im a bit pissed off, i saw a video you did late last year on the Phrozen transform , and ordered one, it should arrive in Australia next week, thinking it was the bee.s knees and would do me fine for a few years and i dropped $3500 for this bad boy ....yes not cheap here , and now i see theres something even better , i cannot keep up and running outer money
You will love that transform. Yeah these things keep evolving so fast now
So, if you had a choice between the Noir or the L, would you take the faster printing of the Noir or the bigger build plate of the L?
Where do you put these to handle the resin safely? Just in the garage or outside? Is UV cured resin safe after it's washed and cured to actually put on your face?
Is it posisble to use resin with great mechanical properties ? Or is the standard resin good enough for such things ?
I will have soothing like this ONE DAY, but I'm only just now buying my first fdm printer and first printer period, so I'll chill for a while on expensive purchases!
Do you need a respirator/other protective equipment for this resin printer?
I wander how this compares to anycubics photon max 3?!
the black resin is stunning!!!
Well, I did not take your advice, I bought this as my first printer! Now I am trying to figure out if it is set to the right voltage.... when I peek between the vents I see some red numbers that say 115, so I am assuming it is correct or does opening it reveals more? Love your videos, very informative and well put together.
They're gonna need an 8k display for this.
Indeed. When it comes to precision for miniatures/statues this printer is not the first choice. The Epax X10 4K Mono is at the moment the most interesting printer.
Some of the smaller finer lines of the Black Panther helmet look like they've either been accidentally filled in with too much primer, or a build up of resin wasn't properly washed out of them. How do you go about cleaning prints that big?
*_The cost of that printer is pocket changes! Especially for what it can do!_* *If you know what you are doing you can make all your money back in less than a month's time!*
Please tell me how :)
I'd love to justify that purchase after I've just purchased my Elegoo Saturn and are AMAZED at the results :)
Do you sell any of the masks? It would be great to have subzero or Bain mask with a place to put fiter to make a cool n95
I have a big resin printer but the reason I don't do cosplay masks is because the smell of the mask or having resin smell that close to your face is not good unless you have found a way to resolve that?
what kind of resin does this machines uses to print? amazing video btw I´m thinking into get my first 3d printer soon, thanks so much for the info and tips
What would you suggest between this and the saturn 2 8k?? I know the saturn is smaller so more time to print pieces to where this one you can do it once.
If they could build the L with a monochrome lcd then I would be interested. That would cut your 15 hour print time significantly.
Excited about those mono screens. I’m just excited that I was able to print a helmet in 22hrs
Why does a mono-screen decrease print time?
yeah im not understanding why mono screens used in them all just makes sense and they are actually cheaper screens and don't have to be replaced as often
@@mikedudley9921 the monochromatic screens are more resistant to the UV light so they can have higher exposure without breaking down.
@@zachofalltrades1111 mono are actually more expensive.
What are you thoughts about a resin printer setup in the bedroom, any thoughts, suggestions or solutions on how you think it could be done successfully/managed?
Specifically I was looking at the Mars Pro 2
I'm not into figurines and cosplays, more into thick mechanical parts.
Have you tried printing anything thick flat on the bed without any supports?
Most of the resin printers won't hold anything like that.
Do you have any unsponsored videos? You make every resin printer seem like a good choice when they aren’t .. would help someone like me out.
Maybe you have recommendations for people who post good reviews that aren’t paid for it? Thanks!
If resin was not as expensive, I would buy it right now, it's the perfect resin printer, but 100$ to print only 1 helmet that would cost me maybe 10$ on my CR-10 S5.. No thanks, maybe when the prices will drop
Fair, but how much post-processing time would you spend on that FDM print versus a resin print. Time is money.
@@JohnJones-oy3md 90$ to avoid sanding, not sure it's worth it and don't forget the printer itself cost 3k, I bought my CR10 S5 for 750$..
Also, for those that sell on things like etsy etc. Are these people printing their own models, or are they printing and selling the prints of other peoples models and that's still legal? Very new to the space.
What's up!.. what happends if light goes out? does the print save that point to continue later?
This machine is a godsend for industrial design engineers
Just got my phenom L and love it. Thx for amazing videos you create
Since my sculptures take 100+ hours what’s the best way to create silicon molds using resin printers?
Thank you for all your helpful videos. I have room in my shop for one 3d printer and currently have a large FDM, but with this large build volume I'm leaning towards selling my FDM and going exclusively with the Phenom L. For you personally (and others out there) do you use FDM for anything anymore after something like the Phenom L? Besides some of the pain in the butt maintenance/cleanup/post-cure stuff I hear about with resins, time-wise it doesn't seem to hold a candle to the amount of time I spend post-processing FDM prints to get them almost to the same point as a raw resin print. Any thoughts?
Peoploy phenom or Phrozen Transform with mono screen? Which is better?
Hey.. I'm seriously considering buying a Phenom L for it's print size, but wondering about the Noir. Would you get the L and wait till they have an update later to bring it to Noir speed and quality.. About those mask. Is 3d Resin toxic at all? Like, say if someone did wear that and sweat would it affect the print? I guess you'd want to cover the print in a light surface or can you buy medical grade Resin? I want to print off a wide range of things. So they don't have food safe resin's yet.. Oh, ok, biocompatible. I know a dentist that's been looking to invest and if I set up a service I can definitely bring him is as a partner. I guess you'd want to use a smaller, highest definition for those prints but on a Noir I could print them all for him in one batch.. Decisions, decisions.. Plus I want a lot of room to explore my prototypes.. Finally printing science has evolved to the point where I can make my imaginations take shape and go from there.
Have they come out with a newer version of this using a mono screen? Have you seen the Yidimu Falcon Max? Can't find any reviews of it but seems impressive on paper...
If I had to print something myself, I wouldn't want anything less than this, in time and quality. That tells me printing is still not where I would like it to be :D
Wow! Can I use generic resins? or phenom compatible resins only? I wanna do a 3d printing business any advice. Thanks
Yeah you can pretty much use any resin with the right settings. However some might cause the display/screen to burn out faster
I pretty much always use Siraya tech fast these days
I lived in Philippines and am interested to have this printer but my only need to consider might be the support maintenance of this printer and buying the right resins. Any reseller in Manila? Thanks
@@UncleJessy whats your chitubox settings for this? Default profile or did you adjust? I've had 3 attempts / 3 fails with Elegoo's Fast Grey so I'm giving up on that brand for the moment
What resin do you use for printing masks? The resin I tried that I got with my Forge smelled so bad there's no way I'm putting that on my face.
Can you print larger parts if they fit in diagonally... I have a 20" X 5" X 4" part I need to print with high quality like that and it would be worth it if I could fit it in there.
Any Chance you could post the details on the smokey black resin? im not finding it (so im probably spelling something wrong)
siraya.tech/products/fast-1kg-abs-like-resin-smoky-black-special
I haven't seen it anywhere other than Siraya Tech's website and I can't wait for more stock to come in because I am very interested in getting my hands on some.
After watching ALOT of Vids on the Phrozen Transform & Peopoly Phenom by various you-tubers, you get my thumbs up man!! Very clear and informative :)
Ive decided to go for the Peopoly Phenom for easy of use with Chitubox, BUT i can't seem to find the manufacturer let alone the Phenom's profile in chitubox. Can i Pick your brains with a few questions unc? lol
1) Where/how do you get the profile for the machine in Chitubox or have you just set it up manually with the print space parameters?
2) this leads to my next question; the settings you use for the resin. Im using ELEGOO's abs-like grey resin (good bang for the buck) currently on my ELEGOO mars, and the thing thats getting me is the settings (cure times/exposure times) for different resins, can you help or advise me on setting mine up?
Im new to this game but decided to try prototyping some parts myself instead of spending loads with others, and have some fun along the way! Im homing my skills in chitubox with supports etc but its the settings for resins thats going to get me!
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
You printed a Cthulluh ! Where did you find that model ? It is epic !
Edit: oh snap, you put a link for it.
Thank you Jessy :D
Planning on a full video run down soon. The file is EPIC!!!
Love the Nova, always my favorite.
Be neat if Peopoly made smaller vats that swapped in and out.
no, you dont want to waste liefetime of the display on smaller prints. just get a elegoo mars as a second resin-printer.
@@ShrimpyMaster didn't think about that.
Absolute cool Jessy that´s why I need a Bigger Resin Printer , I only have the Phrozen Sonic Mini
You should really discuss how you'd recommend the curing and cleaning post steps for things of that large a build volume. Do you just toss it in a tub of Simple Green and let it sit in the sun?
Thanks for this video, Unc. I'm gonna buy it for sure. The price dropped dramatically, possibly due to COVID 19. They said it wouldn't be shipped until September lol. WORTH IT.
its still 3,000 :(
@@davinhess5295 Aw well that breaks my little heart lol. I do NOT love it 3000 lol
great video Jessy, I'm also thinking to add this to my production. 😎
what do you guys make?
Jesse, I'm new to 3D printing and I bought a Mars last week and have since binge watched like 20 hours of your content (very awesome BTW). I've been making game parts for Terraforming Mars. I can see that this is going to be a serious new love. What I'm concerned about is resin. I started with a number of 500g bottles of water washable elegoo resin as I thought it would be easier from a cleaning standpoint. Long story short. I have come to realize that if I'm going to do this a lot, I'm going to mow through resin. Can you do a video on the various manufacturers, styles, colors, odors, cleaning requirements, quality and pricing for the major manufacturers and when and why you choose to use one over another?
Ameralabs has an article about almost every aspect that has an impact on print quality and also a file for 3D printer calibration. But they haven't tested different types of resin.
Nice! I started printing that cthulhu, then my uv leds crapped out in my printer. Still waiting for a replacement. Also, how much are replacement screens for that printer? I've killed two on my little Prism so far.
Would love to order one, but the cost of shipping to the UK is massive!, and there is a 20% tax to pay on arrival. So all in all looking at $4570 or in Uk money £3780 I think.
Will have to settle for my little Mars 😞. Keep up the good videos 👍🏻
Wait for the Saturn
you should talk to the resellers as they often have much better shipping rates
How tough (resilient) is the resin stuff compared to the ABS stuff?
purchased based on this video - Could you please give ideas of what Resin has worked best in this machine for you. Thank you
Uncle Jessy looks like Uncle Joey! That's not a burn either. Great video! I'm inspired to grab one :)
Hahaha that is a very very true statement ;)
If you pick one up you'll love it!
I've asked this a few places but have yet to get a response, so maybe some of you resin guys can chime in;
Coming from the large format FDM world, I am heavily interested in switching to resin printers for the increased quality as I primarily print high res figures and engineering models, but for me the cost of a real 'large format' resin printer is currently inaccessible (like the 5k USD range). Looking at the components, what makes these machines so expensive? 2k/4k LCD screens are pretty affordable, vertical screws and fine adjustment stepper motors are downright cheap, and one would think that a few bright minds could scrap together some functional code to port over the working bits of fdm software to make a resin printer operate similarly along with its inherent properties. As I understand the basic principle, you're using light-reactive resin, exposing a layer at a time at xx seconds, and the screw raises the print platform at your given layer height.
Presuming all of that is correct, why don't we have 27"+ build plate printers with 400mm+ build heights that cost what these little guys do?
If I wanted to get into 3D printing with resin could it be done in a small apartment? because I heard it gives off a strong lingering smell and I wouldn't want my neighbors to complain of the smell.
It depends on the machine and the resin. Organic plant based resins cost about $10 more per 500ml so not that bad. This is the printer I have: no smell whatever resin you get (till you open it), never had a problem with the neighbors.. A well ventilated room is a must for any resin printer though. www.creality3d.shop/products/creality3d-ld-002r-uv-resin-lcd-3d-printer
We just got a phenom noir and we are getting very soft fuzzy details with the recommended settings in the user manual, we tried three types of resins. What settings and resin did you use for the tchala helmet and bman masks?
What do you mean “update the voltage on the machine” is it as simple as flicking a switch to the us 110volts or is it more complicated?
Seeing this, I guess the future really is here.
in yours test print do you notice a difference in dimension between 3d drawing vs 3d print part or you just you only make a visual check for defect?
this is a pro-level machine, it is possible to print in transparent resin?
Can the resin print touch food, like if I print bowls or cups, are they food-friendly?
Great vid bro!
Is it true, that this printer only, print with 90qm?
Your prints look very nice design wise as well. They look good printed definitely.
Nice video. Would have liked to see how hard it is to level a bed that size or if they use some tech to auto level it. How's the vat system? Does it tilt and peel like the Prusa or is it stationary? Tilting would be nice for suction forces of that size plate. How about replacing the FEP? That's gotta be pricey and painful to get the tension right on something that big. The screen, you mention it's 4k, what's a replacement cost? Is it rated for a measly 600 hours like the smaller printers? Because if so, you just took up 1/5 of its life with what you just printed. Unfortunately thier site offers none of this info either. For $3k, it's not just about size.
Wow what a time. I think in 2-3 years i'll get a monster like this. I hope the Resin will be get a bit cheaper. ;)
you will be surprised how much resin price has came down in recent years
@@peopoly i know this is the reason why this makes sense for such a build volume in the price range. i would use it more privately and love to print big things. upscaling is my favorite function for 3d printing.
where does all the weight come from? is it just for stability for such a bit volume?
thank you for introducing me to this printer
Another awesome video! Thanks for what you do!