DID WE JUST MAKE THE BEST JUND DECK IN cEDH?
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- Опубликовано: 15 фев 2024
- Dylan and Cam try to brew the best Jund cEDH deck they can!
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it would be cool to see an episode with a pod full of decks made on the podcast
Love this idea
Fully agree
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Deck looks super fun and I hope we get to see it in action in a future gameplay video. As a heads up, the deck list you have in the description does not include Boseiju or Gemstone Caverns.
Also, have you considered adding Sticher's Supplier? It's pretty dead on its own but Breach + Culling the Weak + Sticher's Supplier is an easy way to go through your deck while netting black mana.
Thanks for the heads up!
It is also extra sacrifice fodder for cards like culling the weak when you aren't comboing so it isn't completely dead.
Is this the best jund deck? Only time will tell. Is it the best fund deck in my heart? Absolutely it looks incredibly fun.
I see what you Jund there.
@joshbailey7775 it was completely intentional and I 100% knew I did it before you commented...
All jund decks are incredibly fun(d)
I don’t even play CEDH (yet), but there’s a lot of good info in this episode. Just listening to you guys talk through your choices and the sample hands at the end can be helpful for new brewers.
Summoner's pact, dryad arbor, natural order, reanimate.
Fetch dryad, sac to order, put Witherbloom in play.
A lot of mana production and other ways to surprise opponents. Love this type of content. Very fun
Franscisco / Tana would be also interesting to brew with Glint-Horn
Going a different route, Reyhan could potential add to the power matters theme. By sacrificing reyhan first you can put the counter onto dargo, then potentially have 10 mana with bunt offering/sacrifice, draw ten cards with life’s legacy/greater good, ten treasures with ruthless technomancer. Might be better on the casual side, but maybe something to look into!
OH SHIT, that "this might be what i put together for chicago" was so huge in reminding me to bring a cedh deck to chicago in case i want to try playing more cedh. THANK YOU FORE THE REMINDER
Keep that seven with turn 1 fetch, carpet of flowers and you can noxious the land to top if no islands show up for turn 2 dockside into wheel, or you can save noxious to wheel into dockside a second time from a sac outlet if you're a little lucky
Slimefoot and Squee is a pretty sweet deck. You avoid commander tax with his reanimate, and also really good with Dockside. Alter of Dementia is sweet to help flip your deck over. There's some loop with Pitiless Plunderer. You play a side Reanimator strategy too.
god i love this podcast, switching from paper magic to playing on tabletop with my group has allowed us to explore CEDH. thanks to these guys i am not completely lost.
love these brew discussions
I’ll say it again, your brewing episodes are my favorite!
Love the brewing episodes! Gonna have to try this out sometime.
Like the deck building, would love to see a follow up that talks about how it preformed and changes. Basically the growth of the deck
I want to build a fast jund deck. This looks like a lot of fun to play.
I am once again asking for a "Banlist Review" podcast. TIA!
I love this cEDH deck building episodes. Perhaps y'all could do one for casual one of these days? I'm curious to see the thought process. Great episode, nonetheless.
something ive been liking in my r/g decks is playing twinflame, because it combos with eternal witness and dockside if the treasure count is 5. it just makes infinite attacks and infinite mana if you make 6 or more treasures.
24 lands is wild
Yeah I play 19.
Jundem out has been my motto for so many years😂😂😂
That was a ton of fun! More content of this variety!! 💯😎👍
Dude it be cool to see you guys in Chicago. I dont have cedh deck but it would still be cool to see yall
I've found good success with Tevesh-Tana Turbo Naus. It's super explosive with a solid midrange game in cEDH. Both commanders create value sacrifice fodder and let you go crazy with more lines than Reyhan offers. Jund is strong AF and Reyhan-Rog makes good immediate sacrifice fodder/ free spells but going off with Rog as sacrifice fodder draws out all the counters and ends up emptying opponents from responses and the next person gets a free pass. Just slow enough to get started after a Rhystic or Mystic draws out the counters often gets you there once some interaction is spent.
Agatha soul cauldron with reyan is actually pretty neat imho
You can get something cool like turning the just removed opposition agent on your opponents or something
I don't get it - Opposition agent doesn't have any activated abilities?
@@TheMattmatic oh
Only activated abilities...
Yeah I was a bit dumb there
Emh
Second activation of your dauthi voidwalker*
Do more episodes like this. Thanks for an awesome pod/channel.
When you were debating Rog or Dargo, all I could think was why not make a mono red list with both
Would love to see a pod of podcast created 3 color decks with no blue. 4 decks, each card talked through, and see who can come out on top.
I will always be "Gruul+1" (Jund, Temur, and Naya) and the fact a PARTNER PAIR could be this dagnasty makes me happy. I'll probably brew up a budget version for High Power since proper cEDH is not plausible for me financially
I fucking love this format. I fucking love Jund in this format. Ignore that Jund is scuffed in the format, shhh
Also- Food chain is a consideration I would have for this deck. It can come online quick, is turned online by wheeling really easily, and can really explode in these colors in particular.
Also I think Reyhan has combo potential with Grist and Soul cauldron since you're running Emergence Zone. Considering Grist by itself is a killspell, and tutorable, but more importantly a win piece maybe it has legs here? 🤔 Probably too slow for how fast the deck wants to go, though
I'll be at MTG Chicago too! I'm new to cEDH, how does it typically work at these events? Are there impromptu tourneys? I was going to do the 1 sanctioned cEDH event but there are no proxies :(
We'll be hanging out in the Command Zone there looking for proxy-friendly games of cEDH!
i feel like there should had been a podcast that goes into discussing the different options and potentially just doing Golgari or Rakdos or Gruul. Prossh is a very powerful commander option, in a different way. Being able to make use of Impact Tremur effects. Korvold needs other things in play to take advantage of, and is only powerful because "treasures" to such a point i feel he's one of the few options that would want/need Bootleggers Stash like that card was made for Korvold.
So I'd like to put a vote in for summoners pact and demonic consultation.
Pact finds part of your wither combo, or atleast becomes a green mana through spirit guide. If it's go fast or lose, it's hard to beat free tutors.
As for demonic consult, you guys are on 2 card combos that win that turn. It doesn't matter if you Exile your whole deck. Just as long as it isn't in top 6.
I love these deck making episodes!
When in doubt, jund it out. If that doesn't work, Rog/Sai can't hurt.
Yesterday I told a friend I want to build a new Jund deck and I was thinking about Reyhan/Rogragkh 😂 thanks for reading my mind
I love how the meta became so midrange, Reyhan has become a prevalent partner in cEDH. Agatha's soul cauldron definitely helps, but I've seen Kraum Reyhan more and more recently
Honestly your first hand was probably the best hand. T1 misty - fetch, cast rog, cast carpet, then noxious revival your misty before your T2. T2 misty - fetch, have 3 mana from lands and carpet. You can dockside or wheel or both at that point and if from there.
On the subject of the Veils Summer and Autumn, what're your thoughts on Guttural Response? I know it's *literally* just a counterspell for counterspells but being a third Blast/Veil in that sense isn't too bad - at least in casual, which is why I'm curious on how it looks to cedh players
Could you do one of these videos for Pantlaza. I have played it for some time but would love to see and hear your take on it😊
Yall, I've probably said this before, but could you IMAGINE how bad ass Etali would be as a Jund commander? Like, you'd get access to Burnt Offering, Culling Ritual, Rain of Filth, Bubbling Muk, ALL of the best tutors, an additional win condition with Praetor's Grasp and Witherbloom, AND you'd have better card advantage engines with more interactive pieces like Bowmasters and Opp Agent while ALSO getting Ad Nauseum - bro, they made my girl GREAT, but she could've been a GOD ❤
I don't play cEdh, but these deck building episodes get me so hype.
I know it doesn't go with the turn 2 theme, but what about Fire Covenant as an emergency button? Or Toxic Deluge?
"Autumn is a really weird word" Don't change, Cameron XD
Reyhan goes infinite with "One with the Kami" and a sac outlet. You get infinite death triggers, etb triggers, and creatures.
Is this found more in Tayam decks?
I know it's a bit slow in some ways, but also you are already playing a fair few key pieces that Belbe plays, you could then main phase two get 6 colourless mana from everyone getting pinged potentially, ad naus from there? Just thinking it could be another line or does that fall into the more cute section over competitive section in cEDH?
Awesome video as always
this thumbnail was crazy for me because I JUST put together a casual Rograkh + Reyhan deck. Though in paper I've been Reyhan + Tana more often, since I didn't wanna shell out for the Commander Free spells.
Please guys try doing this as dargo instead of rog. Dargo getting pod/pattern/EE into razaketh is amazing. You can play dargo, get jLo, play dargo 3 more times, LED, Breach, Altar of dementia, win. You also have some amazing Hulk lines that can pop off pretty consistently on t2 and t3
Seems like an Imp Recruiter deck, if we're already interested in Worldly/EE.
Summoner Pact also finds any of the creature combo pieces
3 cost might be why they didnt even consider it
Slimefoot and squee has quite a few different win lines for a jund deck and I've been enjoying it.
33:22 Play rograkh and phyrexian tower then sacrifice rograkh and ad two mana for one sol ring and tap it for two now play cabal ritual and you have 3 black and one colorless for one black play deathrite shaman for two play again rograkh and play the paradise mantel and equip it
Have you guys ever considered the card Seedtime, I think it’s a cool niche card and it’d have insane potential in this deck
god this is a brilliant podcast idea😭🔥
Tymna rograk is so fucking sweet. I think having all the fast mana and advantage peices that rograk allows, is waaaaay better than the blue you get from kraum. It plays into an ad nauseum plan really well and the interaction/staxs you get in mardu is more than good enough to keep you in the game.
I want your shirt, Dylan!
6:22 🎉 dargo Cisco is the power matters turbo list your looking for.
I’ve been partial to slimefoot and squee but unfortunately it’s just a turn or 2 to slow. A bit mana intensive for the ability
I deeply enjoy how modern blue farm lists are playing necro and sometimes bolas's citadel and also am in the market to be a little different and go faster this meta. I'm loving this but I'm personally throwing together rog tev. Over kraum/tev and regular ol rog grixis it can play the fast rituals like grixis rog but goes brrrrrr and can threaten an ad naus, peer into the abyss and breach/past in flames. The lack of blue always hurts of course, but rog tev lists have been playing things like active volcano lately and I'm loving it. R elemental/pyroblast effects and the like are worst case "remove a kraum, kinnan, study or fish" for one red is busted and I'd not count out anything in that sect of partners piloted by a skilled turbo/midrange player. Love me a good scary deck.
I see jund deck, I watch!!
You guys going to put out a video of you play testing this deck?
Happy Junday everyone
Is gaeas cradle even necessary with 13 creatures plus 2 commanders?
Yup. A cradle that taps for 2 is still one of the best lands you can get
@@Naren25 yeah true.
Cut an extra turn spell for that wild growth, it makes your turn 2 plan a little better IMO
Shallow Grave worthwhile looking at, no swatting it
Also, Vexing Shusher?
The lack of Saw in Half for Dockside plus Dualcaster lines seems like a miss
Hey, this codie deck that you guys talked about in the beggining of the video, have you made a video about it? Is ther a list anywhere?
Yes, check out last week's podcast, we talk about it more there
@@PlaytoWinMTG thakyou!!!
Since Jund is just the best, this, this sir, is just the best. No need for semantics
I actually just built a variant of this. It’s tough loosing blue
Since you're going Wither-Smog and Mayhem Devil lines, would Storm-Kiln Artist be a good include for this list?
the final deck didnt include Mayhem devil
@@chottstuff Ah ok. Thank you. :)
Ooh reyhan is a fun pick! I really like her in casual
*me during the win cons part* KIKI-JIKI + TOWER SCOUT!!! DO THE THING.
Reyhan main here. No combo? Blade of selves on reyhan, attack, sac copies and make reyhan 21/21. Play phyrexian Devourer to exile your library or pass a lethal amount of counters to something else. Place 99 counters on a walking archive and pass the turn (e.g. By kicked Rite of replication), as long as reyhan can reapply a counter to a token creature, basri's luitenant can infinitely create a new token when you sac it.. Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord can instantly win you games with 40 power, and that's easy to get with reyhan. I can go on some more. And I don't believe reyhan is cedh level but it can get close.
To add, cloning reyhan conflicts the legend rule. 2 reyhans see 1 reyhan die, thus placing 6 counters on something else. A kicked Rite of replication means 6 reyhans see 5 die thus you can pass 30 triggers of 3 counters (90 total) to other targets.
You named so many cards not to mention a blue card lol. I think that's too slow for what they want this *jund* deck to do
I was kinda hoping after they brought up Agagtha's Soul Cauldron they would go into a Razaketh, The Foulblooded lines. Also you could do a Asmodeus The Archfiend line. Reyhan seems sweet!!!
Is that a goddamned PHANTOMS REVENGE tshirt?
I also remember clocking a Kennywood tshirt in an early episode.
I love Kennywood. Shittiest job I ever had
Shifting woodland goes here
Hey, it's Plague Doc here!
I actually created this deck a while ago and have been refining it if you were interested in seeing how far I've been able to push it
The fundamental problem in Jund is the lack of either blue or white. It can go fast and be reliable but with very little protection
The whole beginning conversation about picking the commanders is a referendum on why "partner" was a massive mistake. it's better to play a do nothing commander that is guaranteed in your opening hand than go down a card and run a more powerful/synergistic commander.
Did you guys consider Seedtime at all? I know it's very much a fringe card but I'm curious what you and the rest of the comments think
6:14 so there IS a casual side of your brain. Mind creating a "Chill to win" channel where you only discuss casual EDH 👀👀?
How about an eternal witness instead of dosan? If dockside makes 5, you strive twin flame targeting e wit and dockside, resolves and you make 5 treasures and get twin flame back. Then you have infinite mana and infinite e-wits. E wit can be a win condition or a great recovery piece, also something to sack to your rituals or tutors in the mid game. Just a thought 🤷🏼♂️
Aaaaaaaaaaand all the e-wits have haste lol.
Three card combo that requires your opponents to have certain permanents in play :(
@@CorneliusQvist I understand, what I’m saying is you’re already playing dockside and twin flame for acceleration. What does it matter to have a combo piece that does more than just combo if you need it to?
@@NickNicolay-ih4zi I think it matters quite a lot in cEDH to waste a slot on a card that is only useful in the deck in that one magical christmas land scenario you described (you will literally never just randomly have those three cards in hand and you would never tutor for the E Wit bc your other lines are better). In any other situation the card is pretty much dead or just very inefficient compared to how fast this deck is trying to go. Remember, it’s easy to put in new cards, but to do that, you gotta cut something. So what would you cut for it? They’re running Unearth, but the difference between 1GG for getting a card into hand and B for getting something directly into play is so fugging huge. I hope it makes sense! :)
Instant speed wins? Is this a possibility for necrologia? 5 mana Instant: pay x life draw x life only on your endstep. Ik kinda sucks but maybe??
Any reason we couldn't swap saw in half in for heat shimmer?
Why not just run both.
love the content
Road to 69k, lets goooo
A phantoms revenge T-shirt!? Are y'all from Pennsylvania?
2:30 point of order - we didn't ALL lose to the codie deck 😛
One day I hope for someone to do the chain of smog combo but with chain of acid because it's funny to me. You just need an indestructible non creature permanent... Lol it's so much worse than smog
City of Solitude instead of Dosan. 1 Green pip 2 colorless, enchantment.
Vail smasher kodama would be fun and prolly strong
When in doubt...Jund em out! ❤❤❤
No birgi and no beseech .... Good cards to include
Hell yes!
I proxied this deck and while
Play testing it I ran into stalling out just top decking mana sources 80% of the games I played.
No belbe in the 99 to make faster mana?
Isn’t the Agatha Soul Caldron Ballista combo with Reyhan infinite as long as you have infinite mana?
Ballista is already infinite with infinite mana
PUR JUND ENERGYLOVE IT
Suggestions, lifeforce or deathgrip and painters servant.
How is spending loads of cards and mana to counter stuff fitting into the deck's strat of going fast?😅
@@CorneliusQvist it’s a two card win condition.
@@HeWhoisHim. nope
@@CorneliusQvist who’s casting wincons that are automatically being countered lmfao
@@CorneliusQvist also just saying, deathgrip hits what 90% of played enchantment removal without painters servant out?
Tibalt's trickery?
I wish there was a competitive way to do boomer jund, that's my jam
JUND EM OUT