QUESTIONS ANSWERED: 1.) Kurt did not have an open casket funeral, Krist was allowed to view the body before cremation. 2.) I’ve heard that the restaurant was either a McDonalds or a Jack in The Box. 3.) Source is from the book “Love and Death”
God I feel for Krist, could you imagine coming up the way they did? Growing up with Kurt in such a small town and jamming out in bedrooms to being the biggest rock band in the world and then basically 2 1/2 years later it’s all done and your best friend is dead. Fame killed Kurt Cobain
@@justin1978 He used heroin since 1987, long before he was famous. The legendary stomach problem is most likely just his excuse for being dope sick a lot.
Kurt was a junkie, they will say or try anything to get high, it's only heartbreaking that Kurt was such a jerk to his friend who was only trying to help him and then selfishly killed himself leaving Krist to deal with it, but that's what junkies do
@@pauljones8801 I think Kurt was past the point of doing it to get high. I think he was doing it so he wouldn't get dopesick. Anyway, yeah that's true they'll say anything to get a hit. Heroin changes the structure and composition of the addict's brain. It can even damage and alter DNA.
@@pauljones8801 kurt wasnt a jerk to krist.. he was literally having a mental breakdown, you will never know how traumatizing it is to be sent to a ward, unless you experience it. its obvious you havent. also suicide is not selfish. kurt was a mentally ill man, and he was already depressed before the huge arise of fame. all his pain and the unwanted attention got the best of him, and there was no way for him to control that. and if you knew anything about him you would know he literally wanted to live, because he knew courtney and frances would be devastated. the fact that when someone kills themselves, and you immediateley worry about YOURSELF, and how it will affect the rest of YOUR life, is the ONLY thing, regarding a suicide, that is selfish. and i dont know what you think kurt left krist to deal with.. he doesnt wish malice upon anyone, he was a very sweet guy and any person who had met him would tell you
@@pauljones8801 it's hard you can't really control it, drugs change people so much, in one moment you are yourself, in another you are a selfish bastard. it's just so sad.
Krist Novoselic was Kurt's truest friend from the beginning to the end.. I can't imagine watching your best friend devolve into a shell of what they were trying to help them but ultimately unable to do anything to stop it
Kurt didnt do that to himself. Please look at Courtney's extensive criminal record and spending of money. She flipped out because he finally filed for legal divorce. Take a clear look at the forensics. The forensics tell the truth, not Courtney's story she planted all over the media. #Justiceforkurt #Soakedinbleach
@@killroy2010 amen theres a reason why him and dave never say anything, or keep it real vague. also their answers have changed over the years....krist refused to go to the wedding cuz he didnt support their relationship
Crying? Over a story of 2 best friends getting in a fight... Either you are really going through something or you've never been outdoors. Take it easy. Talk to friends and loved ones.
I think what you were feeling is called empathy. It's when you feel for others you don't know and situations you haven't experienced. It's a good thing that you're an empathetic person. Don't let internet curmudgeons convince you otherwise.
you are totally wrong on the contrary kris is very stable kris and someone extremely solid and mentally strong it's not because he cried his childhood friend who is screwed on the contrary kris has a career in politics quite respectable !
Krist loved Kurt tho. Them 2 stayed together through it all and always had each other’s back’s publicly like the axl fight. They were 2 friends that didn’t wanna control each other they just wanted to exist. All real friends have a fight at some point, fights come from caring too much usually….
i think krist was great.. but the alleged 'dragging him through the airport' sounds like something no one, especially a drug addled superstar, would want to put up with... super sad tho..
I've thought about that before also...especially if you were someone who was a fan and had heard the news about Rome weeks earlier...this airport scene must have been one of the most bizarre, surreal and insane things to witness
I'm waiting for someone who was actually there to verify this story. It's hard to believe this happened and nobody said anything. It's possible. Not everyone is a Nirvana fan or knew who he was, but airports are usually busy places. Why no one came out and said "yeah I was there" especially after he died is odd.
i fracking hate airports "check my other post here or i'm a douchebag" ..............why can't people just chill the frack out and take boats and ride the train..i'm at airports suck and they always have...no band should tour on the other side of the planet that's why god made languages or something actually music is the universal language or love is not courtney "with a k" ...kourtney? "no the word not don't be stupid im trying to be a kurt cobain impersonator" you're actually horrible at it...sorry...what was i saying....yeah...i don't know flying is stupid except for maybe A.F.M.s which my phrase for UFOs its called alien flying machines...that's a mitchedberg joke "a new one" for real? or is that at bullshit? what i was saying...i don't know oh yeah....air ports are the worse except for rehab and mental hospitals, and playing shows at college dorms....anyways if you're a spirit looking over a cadeaver i mean decendent please come by my block party.....get to corpus christi then headout ...pass the airport....pass texas farm road 666 and start telling vampire jokes. this will lead you straight to my place i'm trying to trace all the spirits that have been alive since christ...some people already incarnated , but it shouldn't be difficult to get this all straight before the apocalypse get's geared up...
@@Lord_Thistlewick_Flanders Yeah man you'd think someone would have got his iphone out and filmed it and put it up on instagram or world star or something
Wow. Rough stuff. I think I can detect that by Krist saying "He should have never done that..." that a therapist or someone has helped him realize that he did all that one person could do really and that it was never his fault in any way (survivor's guilt?). Bless him. You can see how difficult this has been on him.
Him saying he really shouldn't have done it really made it click for me, such a complicated situation I really hope he's found the peace he was looking for
I'm not sure, but I think I read about it in Everett True's book. The book left me with a very heavy feeling. I still had a band then and it seemed to me absolutely meaningless its existence. Today, I am reassured only by the fact that such stories, most likely, will not be more. Modern show business continues to eat people, but does not make them such large-scale stars
It's surprising it's taken nearly 3 decades for this story to be talked about. I know it was first written in Heavier than heaven but most people wrote it off as tabloid gossip back then. I just feel for Krist. Dude's been through enough & doesn't need to re-live this.
Thank you so much for making this video, being a huge Nirvana fan and thinking I knew a lot, this video changed my entire outlook on Krist, and I never knew how much he went through
It's impossible to imagine the mind frame of someone who's experience of themselves is so excruciatingly painful for them, that they just have to die. An ex-addict friend of mine with some lingering mental health issues was having a tough time, a woman had politely rejected his romantic intentions at work, and some other life stuff going on, he told some of us friends of his he was struggling, but no mention of any suicide ideation - even when outright asked, he'd smile and say 'no, it's not that bad' - he was part of a small community of people who loved him. Then he was found dead in his apartment one day - he'd gone and got some smack (after not using any mood or mind altering substances for over 3 years) and injected a lethal dose. He'd clearly spent some time making sure his flat was immaculate, washed the dishes and had hung laundry out to dry, written a note to his mum saying goodbye and to forgive him, and then tied off - gone.
I imagine that Krist was the person in Kurt’s life that would NOT put up with his drug addiction and truly loved him as a person, brother, and friend. Yes it is the most tragic ending, sad, but he tried. In some sense he was successful because Kurt went to rehab. But then maybe he gave in. I wish someone could have locked him up in a house for a month. I also wish he had a good woman in his life. He would still be here today.
Unfortunately that’s not how it works. Locking someone up for a month won’t change a thing. Neither will beating your friend up at the airport. In order to deal with addiction, a person needs to be able to heal in whatever time frame it takes, with compassion and support. I totally understand that it can be the mist frustrating thing for family and friends. But ganging up on Kurt and trying to force him to do it on their terms was a poor choice.
Courtney Love had Kurt killed for his money . If she would have given Kurt time he would have killed himself with drugs and excess . He was a train wreck.
I feel like Courtney gets blamed a lot for Kurt. And yes, I think they were very codependent (as most addicts are) but also- I think she wanted to be better for Frances. I saw that documentary awhile back on HBO and honestly you could really tell Courtney loved Kurt, but also like anyone who was involved w Kurt- her entire existence is being asked questions about Kurt on a pretty regular basis- even now. And there's a huge, well known conspiracy theory (or several honestly) that Courtney killed Kurt, blah blah blah. The truth is (very tragically and sadly) that Kurt had suicide ideation for such a long time and was very honest about it. His state of mind from addiction really didn't help. I hope he's at peace now ❤
I was 8 turning 9 when Kurt died and it changed all of our lives. My Brother was about to turn 15 and we are and come from a pretty musical family. Our Gma and Mother were drummers, our Gma being a professional Jazz Drummer from the 40's till her Death. Our Paternal Gpa was in a Country music band that opened for Johnny Cash and that whole gang early on. So, very young we all played something, my Bro Guitar, Sis Drumms, and myself Bass and a bit of guitar. Our Sis can really play anything but doesn't give a shit bc she is a super Mom now lol. Anyways, we were just salt of the earth kids that didn't really fit in and we found our people in Grunge and Rock music from a very young age. 30 years later my Hubs and I still Listen to Nirvana like they are the hot new thing! TY guys You Changed our lives!!!
I was a teen during Nirvana's heyday, and part of watching them was wondering what goofy thing Krist would do next. Afterwards you could definitely see the change, he was somber, quiet, and serious, instead of this childish goofiness he used to put off.
Kurt brought his favorite guitar that Ernie Bailey (their guitar tech had worked on for Kurt specifically) Krist would say to Ernie "Man he loves that guitar" Kurt wound up bringing the guitar on this very trip, without it's case and sadly it was just one more important thing to him that he lost along his way, being that he wound up throwing it at Krist right before he fled the airport.
the fact that krist drove him straight to the airport shows that he cares a lot about kurt, since if he brought him to the restaurant he would just be on drugs again
It he walks out the front door, he has to confront the staff who are not just going to say, “goodbye Kurt, hope you enjoyed your stay!” Plus they are going to notify his people. Easier to just jump the wall and be done with it. Probably bought him a good half hour before anyone noticed
Poor Krist. i can’t imagine what its like seeing your closest friend spiral and lose themself to drugs, the last interaction you have with them is a physical fight.
i could feel the way he was thinking. i’ve been homeless and staying at friends and over a love that didn’t go well i was over doing snow and xanax and my emotions were everywhere i tried to kill myself a few times and i remember vividly wanting to go thru with it if i was alone i didn’t have parents in the local city nor did they know who i was. i was alone and had music and skateboarding i use to sit under a bridge as well and watch the truckee river go as it brings its coldness i had no friends but those who skated. i would sit there crying hungry asf always bothering friends for even just a shower. it makes me sad kurt is gone i really really wish i coulda met him. if ya care i’m okay now i worked outta that situation and am not doing any hard drugs anymore it’s been almost a whole year ago. and i started making music to help cope with not wanting to go back to drugs and it’s going good. yea that love that fucked me up, she was also the one supplying the drugs and blinding me with lust.
Either the drug abuse is catching up, old age, or the CTE, but I don't remember ever hearing about this fight between Krist & Kurt. This is some heavy shit, man.
@@thehistorybuff8265 I know that’s what happened to me put me down for the rest of the day or at least those last two chapters and hearing about the fight between him and krist was probably the saddest or at least close
This is one of the saddest stories. I feel so bad that was the last time they saw each other, and if Kurt only knew that those were going to be his last words he would've felt so bad.
Ok ..rome was a accident Everyone said that bandmates,doctor,even Courtney I remember it plain as day them saying that and now since he is dead it's a suicide..ok something smells fishy.
Also, at 1:53, Kurt is wearing gloves. Layne Staley also wore gloves when he was super deep in his addiction and trying to hide the evidence. Its so sad 😞
If ypuve ever loved anyone (in any sense of love capacity) who is an addict, there comes a point where you realize that youncant force them to be better or do better unless they want to.
Krist was an absolute beast of a man so I don't think he couldn't have beaten Kurt in a fight if he wanted too. He clearly loved his friend too much and didn't want to hurt him.
Confronting an addict in this way is an extremely poor choice of action. People didn’t know any better back then. People end up on heroin because of extreme trauma. The last thing you do is corner them and force them into an even more vulnerable position. A person can only get through something as brutal as that with compassion and support. Threats, physical violence and everyone in your life saying ‘you have to go to rehab now’ will almost never work. It will just make the person feel more isolated.
I thought Kurt asked krist to take him to jack in the box because they weren't as greasey as the one they were at and krist got mad after he found out Kurt was just trying to get drugs and be closer to his dealers.
From what I have read and watched in videos.. Kurt supposedly did not have damage to his face. It was bird shot and internal injuries. Unless you go by what Courtney Love says and she is the only one that has said differently. She said there was a puddle of blood but others there say that there was no blood. Except from his ear. The electrician who found him said he saw blood that had trickled from his ear. Someone else said he was a beautiful corpse. Unless we were there we only have what bits of information is put out there. Seems Kurt should of been in pajamas instead of a suit.
Whats even worse was the reporter asking Krist, Where would nirvana be today if Kurt wouldn't have died,,, FFS, He just poured his heart out, I would have said sorry, Then asked a far diffrent question, Like what have you been doing after that tragic day, Or what is your fondest memory of the band, Something that still makes you laugh,,, Switch the attitude to something lighter,
Krist was just being a good friend to Kurt. Dave even told him not to do any harm on himself over the phone. Courtney tried to revive him numerous times b4. She said in 1of her interviews. Poking needles onto his private parts. Cuz he was in an oblivion state of mindset. Since when did Love knew how to revive him tho as a nurse as a doctor as a caregiver as a caretaker as a wife as a his own baby sitter.
The record company should of had handlers with him after Rome especially!!! So many people let him down but none more than Courtney !! Tricking him, playing games, making him feel bad when he dropped Francis etc (yes I know that’s not cool at all) He needed help so bad, Courtney knew he wanted a divorce and I’m not convinced she tried push him to do it or had it done!!
He didn't try to "kill himself" in Rome. When we were younger than him, we would take tons of Rohypnol to have wonderful experiences. I'm calling BS!!!
Krist was known in Aberdeen to be a brawler, but Kurt was scrappy. Depends on what you're fighting for...He has never had the same light in his eyes since Kurt died... P.S. It was a Jack in the Box, not McDonald's, not important.
i wonder sometimes if novoselic and grohl had something along with love to do with it like they all three benefited from it if u think about it idk im naturally skeptical tho and dont trust ppl but its always been in back of head idk
You know what's in airports? Cops. Security. Cameras. People. Strange to think the scene described here happened _at all,_ that it was allowed to happen and that no one heard about this until almost 30 years later? Sus.
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QUESTIONS ANSWERED:
1.) Kurt did not have an open casket funeral, Krist was allowed to view the body before cremation.
2.) I’ve heard that the restaurant was either a McDonalds or a Jack in The Box.
3.) Source is from the book “Love and Death”
Courtney Killed Kurt
Pretty sure it was a Jack in the Box. And yes Courtney was behind Kurt's murder for sure!
@@Kat.Evangeline yeep us true nirvana and Kurt fans know this as does the American spy fox channel
Kurt's bio fills in alot. Love and Death is quite biased
This clip is inaccurate
Poor Krist. He was never the same after Kurt's death. The change in him was devastating.
Nah, he was glad to be rid of the baggage, junkies are losers
@@pauljones8801 so are trolls
@@pauljones8801 it's funny how i can still see comments that you decide to delete, huh?
What a ridiculous statement. You need to research this much deeper. Chris has profited from the music royalties of Nirvana like a bandit.
God I feel for Krist, could you imagine coming up the way they did? Growing up with Kurt in such a small town and jamming out in bedrooms to being the biggest rock band in the world and then basically 2 1/2 years later it’s all done and your best friend is dead. Fame killed Kurt Cobain
Marriage killed Kurt Cobain. Plenty of people who aren't famous are killed by their wives too
@@madhatter8508 Oh God, another conspiracy nut
it wasnt fame it was drugs
@@noronine Fame was a big reason why he started using. That and his health problems
@@justin1978 He used heroin since 1987, long before he was famous. The legendary stomach problem is most likely just his excuse for being dope sick a lot.
I mean, I knew Kurt's death had a big affected on Krist, but knowing this was the last interaction they had is heartbreaking
Kurt was a junkie, they will say or try anything to get high, it's only heartbreaking that Kurt was such a jerk to his friend who was only trying to help him and then selfishly killed himself leaving Krist to deal with it, but that's what junkies do
@@pauljones8801 I think Kurt was past the point of doing it to get high. I think he was doing it so he wouldn't get dopesick. Anyway, yeah that's true they'll say anything to get a hit. Heroin changes the structure and composition of the addict's brain. It can even damage and alter DNA.
@@pauljones8801 kurt wasnt a jerk to krist.. he was literally having a mental breakdown, you will never know how traumatizing it is to be sent to a ward, unless you experience it. its obvious you havent. also suicide is not selfish. kurt was a mentally ill man, and he was already depressed before the huge arise of fame. all his pain and the unwanted attention got the best of him, and there was no way for him to control that. and if you knew anything about him you would know he literally wanted to live, because he knew courtney and frances would be devastated. the fact that when someone kills themselves, and you immediateley worry about YOURSELF, and how it will affect the rest of YOUR life, is the ONLY thing, regarding a suicide, that is selfish. and i dont know what you think kurt left krist to deal with.. he doesnt wish malice upon anyone, he was a very sweet guy and any person who had met him would tell you
@@pauljones8801 it's hard you can't really control it, drugs change people so much, in one moment you are yourself, in another you are a selfish bastard. it's just so sad.
Krist Novoselic was Kurt's truest friend from the beginning to the end.. I can't imagine watching your best friend devolve into a shell of what they were trying to help them but ultimately unable to do anything to stop it
I feel so sorry for Krist. It must be horrible to lose your best friend to suicide. Also extra sad that their last interaction was a fight
Real friends have fights, happens a lot when people care about each other and the things they do…
Kurt didnt do that to himself. Please look at Courtney's extensive criminal record and spending of money. She flipped out because he finally filed for legal divorce. Take a clear look at the forensics. The forensics tell the truth, not Courtney's story she planted all over the media. #Justiceforkurt #Soakedinbleach
He didn’t kill himself kirst doesn’t even want to think about what really happened because it’s so much worse
@@killroy2010 amen theres a reason why him and dave never say anything, or keep it real vague. also their answers have changed over the years....krist refused to go to the wedding cuz he didnt support their relationship
@@rossdelemarre I still get angry when kirst says sucide though when he’s put on the spot
I almost cried listening to this. It hurts hearing what drugs can do to someone with a personality like Kurt.
i think there were some other issues he had. love issues you can call it.
Crying? Over a story of 2 best friends getting in a fight... Either you are really going through something or you've never been outdoors. Take it easy. Talk to friends and loved ones.
@@shadcovert1160 I said *almost*
Aw , it’s upsetting hearing about people you know nothing about.
I think what you were feeling is called empathy. It's when you feel for others you don't know and situations you haven't experienced. It's a good thing that you're an empathetic person. Don't let internet curmudgeons convince you otherwise.
I really think this experience traumatized Krist. He was never the same after this moment.
I wouldn't be the same either. He handles it good all things considered. Strong dude and Kurt Cobain had a good friend.
you are totally wrong on the contrary kris is very stable kris and someone extremely solid and mentally strong it's not because he cried his childhood friend who is screwed on the contrary kris has a career in politics quite respectable !
Krist loved Kurt tho. Them 2 stayed together through it all and always had each other’s back’s publicly like the axl fight. They were 2 friends that didn’t wanna control each other they just wanted to exist. All real friends have a fight at some point, fights come from caring too much usually….
i think krist was great.. but the alleged 'dragging him through the airport' sounds like something no one, especially a drug addled superstar, would want to put up with... super sad tho..
Imagine walking through the airport like normal and then seeing this happen
I've thought about that before also...especially if you were someone who was a fan and had heard the news about Rome weeks earlier...this airport scene must have been one of the most bizarre, surreal and insane things to witness
I'm waiting for someone who was actually there to verify this story. It's hard to believe this happened and nobody said anything. It's possible. Not everyone is a Nirvana fan or knew who he was, but airports are usually busy places. Why no one came out and said "yeah I was there" especially after he died is odd.
@@Lord_Thistlewick_Flanders My immediate thought too when I watched this.
i fracking hate airports "check my other post here or i'm a douchebag" ..............why can't people just chill the frack out and take boats and ride the train..i'm at airports suck and they always have...no band should tour on the other side of the planet that's why god made languages or something actually music is the universal language or love is not courtney "with a k" ...kourtney? "no the word not don't be stupid im trying to be a kurt cobain impersonator" you're actually horrible at it...sorry...what was i saying....yeah...i don't know flying is stupid except for maybe A.F.M.s which my phrase for UFOs its called alien flying machines...that's a mitchedberg joke "a new one" for real? or is that at bullshit? what i was saying...i don't know oh yeah....air ports are the worse except for rehab and mental hospitals, and playing shows at college dorms....anyways if you're a spirit looking over a cadeaver i mean decendent please come by my block party.....get to corpus christi then headout ...pass the airport....pass texas farm road 666 and start telling vampire jokes. this will lead you straight to my place i'm trying to trace all the spirits that have been alive since christ...some people already incarnated , but it shouldn't be difficult to get this all straight before the apocalypse get's geared up...
@@Lord_Thistlewick_Flanders Yeah man you'd think someone would have got his iphone out and filmed it and put it up on instagram or world star or something
Wow. Rough stuff. I think I can detect that by Krist saying "He should have never done that..." that a therapist or someone has helped him realize that he did all that one person could do really and that it was never his fault in any way (survivor's guilt?). Bless him. You can see how difficult this has been on him.
I think you’re right. I’m sure he blamed himself early on. It’s impossible not to. I’m glad he’s been able to reconcile those feelings of guilt.
Him saying he really shouldn't have done it really made it click for me, such a complicated situation I really hope he's found the peace he was looking for
What a terrible way to remember the last time you ever seen someone, and how difficult it must be to have gotten past that.
I would've enjoyed this vlog if the horror sound wasn't played the whole time.
Lol
Agree
Those last days must have been really tough not only for Kurt, but for the whole band as well.
The band barley talked.
Wdum Kurt and Krist are literally like best friends. Obviously dave came late into the picture but he connected with Kurt and Krist like glue.
Well, at least Krist can say he tried.
Soo true. Not very many people really did
this story broke my heart. I didn't know about that fight.
I'm not sure, but I think I read about it in Everett True's book. The book left me with a very heavy feeling. I still had a band then and it seemed to me absolutely meaningless its existence. Today, I am reassured only by the fact that such stories, most likely, will not be more. Modern show business continues to eat people, but does not make them such large-scale stars
This is the real tragedy of suicide. The people you leave behind are affected forever.
Heartbreaking that drugs pushed him to fight his best friend
It's surprising it's taken nearly 3 decades for this story to be talked about. I know it was first written in Heavier than heaven but most people wrote it off as tabloid gossip back then. I just feel for Krist. Dude's been through enough & doesn't need to re-live this.
Thank you so much for making this video, being a huge Nirvana fan and thinking I knew a lot, this video changed my entire outlook on Krist, and I never knew how much he went through
Ive been a huge Nirvana fan for 17 years, and this is the first time hearing of this fight between them. Well done
This, to me, is one of the saddest Nirvana stories I've heard. Really heartbreaking stuff.
It's impossible to imagine the mind frame of someone who's experience of themselves is so excruciatingly painful for them, that they just have to die. An ex-addict friend of mine with some lingering mental health issues was having a tough time, a woman had politely rejected his romantic intentions at work, and some other life stuff going on, he told some of us friends of his he was struggling, but no mention of any suicide ideation - even when outright asked, he'd smile and say 'no, it's not that bad' - he was part of a small community of people who loved him. Then he was found dead in his apartment one day - he'd gone and got some smack (after not using any mood or mind altering substances for over 3 years) and injected a lethal dose. He'd clearly spent some time making sure his flat was immaculate, washed the dishes and had hung laundry out to dry, written a note to his mum saying goodbye and to forgive him, and then tied off - gone.
It's so annoying see that some people still believe that he was murdered by some conspiracy, grow up!
amazing video, I was a huge Nirvana fan growing up and had never heard about this
I imagine that Krist was the person in Kurt’s life that would NOT put up with his drug addiction and truly loved him as a person, brother, and friend. Yes it is the most tragic ending, sad, but he tried. In some sense he was successful because Kurt went to rehab. But then maybe he gave in. I wish someone could have locked him up in a house for a month. I also wish he had a good woman in his life. He would still be here today.
Unfortunately that’s not how it works.
Locking someone up for a month won’t change a thing.
Neither will beating your friend up at the airport.
In order to deal with addiction, a person needs to be able to heal in whatever time frame it takes, with compassion and support.
I totally understand that it can be the mist frustrating thing for family and friends.
But ganging up on Kurt and trying to force him to do it on their terms was a poor choice.
Courtney Love had Kurt killed for his money . If she would have given Kurt time he would have killed himself with drugs and excess . He was a train wreck.
How I wish Kurt had gotten the help he desperately needed... :(
I feel like Courtney gets blamed a lot for Kurt. And yes, I think they were very codependent (as most addicts are) but also- I think she wanted to be better for Frances. I saw that documentary awhile back on HBO and honestly you could really tell Courtney loved Kurt, but also like anyone who was involved w Kurt- her entire existence is being asked questions about Kurt on a pretty regular basis- even now. And there's a huge, well known conspiracy theory (or several honestly) that Courtney killed Kurt, blah blah blah. The truth is (very tragically and sadly) that Kurt had suicide ideation for such a long time and was very honest about it. His state of mind from addiction really didn't help. I hope he's at peace now ❤
Great commentary xx
Allways make Me cry after all this years my pain still here as Fan, i can't imagine how he felt and still ...
I was 8 turning 9 when Kurt died and it changed all of our lives. My Brother was about to turn 15 and we are and come from a pretty musical family. Our Gma and Mother were drummers, our Gma being a professional Jazz Drummer from the 40's till her Death. Our Paternal Gpa was in a Country music band that opened for Johnny Cash and that whole gang early on. So, very young we all played something, my Bro Guitar, Sis Drumms, and myself Bass and a bit of guitar. Our Sis can really play anything but doesn't give a shit bc she is a super Mom now lol. Anyways, we were just salt of the earth kids that didn't really fit in and we found our people in Grunge and Rock music from a very young age. 30 years later my Hubs and I still Listen to Nirvana like they are the hot new thing! TY guys You Changed our lives!!!
my heart breaks for krist. i hope he knows how much kurt loved him.
What about Dave and Pat?
Don’t stop making these my man!!!!!!!
have no plans to stop 😈
@@rockrealmm hell yeah!
I was a teen during Nirvana's heyday, and part of watching them was wondering what goofy thing Krist would do next. Afterwards you could definitely see the change, he was somber, quiet, and serious, instead of this childish goofiness he used to put off.
Imagine going to the airport and seeing Kurt Cobain and Krist novaselic fighting. That’d be a holiday to remember
Kurt brought his favorite guitar that Ernie Bailey (their guitar tech had worked on for Kurt specifically) Krist would say to Ernie "Man he loves that guitar" Kurt wound up bringing the guitar on this very trip, without it's case and sadly it was just one more important thing to him that he lost along his way, being that he wound up throwing it at Krist right before he fled the airport.
This is heartbreaking
the fact that krist drove him straight to the airport shows that he cares a lot about kurt, since if he brought him to the restaurant he would just be on drugs again
this feels like the last story i need to Hear. but i’m sure more will come out.
Very sad set of events. RIP Kurt.
Maybe Kurt just wanted a damn cheeseburger!
At least someone tried to help Kurt.
I read about this incident in 'Heavier than heaven' the biography.
How does that interviewer enthusiastically chime right in after Krist graciously lets us hear his feelings on the matter?
imaging going to the airport normally and having to witness this
kurt jumped the fence at exodus when he could of just walked out the door his mind wasn't his own anymore at that point
That could be it. I'd always assumed Kurt was just being funny.
It he walks out the front door, he has to confront the staff who are not just going to say, “goodbye Kurt, hope you enjoyed your stay!” Plus they are going to notify his people. Easier to just jump the wall and be done with it. Probably bought him a good half hour before anyone noticed
@@justin1978 stuff like that causes a lot of trouble for the techs tho...
@@justin1978 he walked into rehab voluntarily…he wasn’t on any kind of medical hold so he could have literally left at any time without a problem.
Where did you get this info? This is the first time ive heard this story.
I can't begin the imagine the pain Krist must've felt knowing that that was the last interaction he had with Kurt 💔
Poor Krist. i can’t imagine what its like seeing your closest friend spiral and lose themself to drugs, the last interaction you have with them is a physical fight.
Brothers fight..:(..
i could feel the way he was thinking. i’ve been homeless and staying at friends and over a love that didn’t go well i was over doing snow and xanax and my emotions were everywhere i tried to kill myself a few times and i remember vividly wanting to go thru with it if i was alone i didn’t have parents in the local city nor did they know who i was. i was alone and had music and skateboarding i use to sit under a bridge as well and watch the truckee river go as it brings its coldness i had no friends but those who skated. i would sit there crying hungry asf always bothering friends for even just a shower. it makes me sad kurt is gone i really really wish i coulda met him. if ya care i’m okay now i worked outta that situation and am not doing any hard drugs anymore it’s been almost a whole year ago. and i started making music to help cope with not wanting to go back to drugs and it’s going good. yea that love that fucked me up, she was also the one supplying the drugs and blinding me with lust.
God this hurts my heart...
Either the drug abuse is catching up, old age, or the CTE, but I don't remember ever hearing about this fight between Krist & Kurt. This is some heavy shit, man.
I just read this in the heavier than heaven book that I just finished yesterday
finished that a few months ago if you ever need to cry read that last chapter shits so sad
@@thehistorybuff8265 I know that’s what happened to me put me down for the rest of the day or at least those last two chapters and hearing about the fight between him and krist was probably the saddest or at least close
That book has Courtney's fingerprints all over it. Its tainted so take it all with a huge grain of salt
@@lizparsons7301 I do don’t worry most of the ending is questionable
Heavier than Heaven is Courtney propaganda.
Duff from G and R was on that plane when he broke out of the rehab
This is one of the saddest stories. I feel so bad that was the last time they saw each other, and if Kurt only knew that those were going to be his last words he would've felt so bad.
Jeez, I thought that was Arnie Grapes on the front pic.
this almost made me cry
This literally did make me cry. Krist cared about him so much even all these years later
They loved each other that much
It wasn't mcdonalds it was jack in the box and the one he wanted to go to was the one in the capitol hill district by his dealers Caitlin Moore
I hear ya Krist,Its tough when ya More than Care for your friends.Take care,Look for the best nah!Within,Krist.Jcsx
Heartbreaking 💔
Ok ..rome was a accident Everyone said that bandmates,doctor,even Courtney I remember it plain as day them saying that and now since he is dead it's a suicide..ok something smells fishy.
What's the source of this story? Is this something Krist reportedly told someone?
Also, at 1:53, Kurt is wearing gloves. Layne Staley also wore gloves when he was super deep in his addiction and trying to hide the evidence. Its so sad 😞
That picture is Maybe from 1990 though
Not the same reason
Never heard this before krist must of been highly upset over this
If ypuve ever loved anyone (in any sense of love capacity) who is an addict, there comes a point where you realize that youncant force them to be better or do better unless they want to.
correct, this is because currently there is no known medical cure for any type of addiction.
Do you guys also see that in that one black and white pic kurt looks like dead without corpse paint from mayhem
Watch the interview of the doctor in Rome who treated him.
I never knew this. Holy S*t.
Oh my gosh...I never knew all that. 😔
Why would you? You’re a nobody.
This was in the book Heavier than Heaven, the most famous book about Kurt Cobain. How is this new news? 🤷🏻
Krist was an absolute beast of a man so I don't think he couldn't have beaten Kurt in a fight if he wanted too. He clearly loved his friend too much and didn't want to hurt him.
Source?
Confronting an addict in this way is an extremely poor choice of action.
People didn’t know any better back then.
People end up on heroin because of extreme trauma. The last thing you do is corner them and force them into an even more vulnerable position.
A person can only get through something as brutal as that with compassion and support.
Threats, physical violence and everyone in your life saying ‘you have to go to rehab now’ will almost never work. It will just make the person feel more isolated.
right. very sad, being in that state of mind already im sure it was hard for him..
I thought Kurt asked krist to take him to jack in the box because they weren't as greasey as the one they were at and krist got mad after he found out Kurt was just trying to get drugs and be closer to his dealers.
** You can't control people !!! Especially when they're sick !!!
I never knew it was an open casket, that’s a little messed up to think about considering his cause of death
Yeah and if his EYES were sewn shut then clearly it was not a "gun in the mouth" suicide...
HOW MESSED UP IS THAT..?
Yeah I was thinking the same thing,I thought it was odd that no one noticed him say that,except us
From what I have read and watched in videos.. Kurt supposedly did not have damage to his face. It was bird shot and internal injuries. Unless you go by what Courtney Love says and she is the only one that has said differently. She said there was a puddle of blood but others there say that there was no blood. Except from his ear.
The electrician who found him said he saw blood that had trickled from his ear. Someone else said he was a beautiful corpse. Unless we were there we only have what bits of information is put out there.
Seems Kurt should of been in pajamas instead of a suit.
@@tonicollins8917 I don't understand,how could you kill yourself with bird shot and not a slug?
Addictions aren't easy to overcome. And if Kurt would ve the change to apologize He would ve done it.
Whats even worse was the reporter asking Krist, Where would nirvana be today if Kurt wouldn't have died,,,
FFS, He just poured his heart out, I would have said sorry, Then asked a far diffrent question, Like what have you been
doing after that tragic day, Or what is your fondest memory of the band, Something that still makes you laugh,,,
Switch the attitude to something lighter,
Poor krist what a good soul
Krist was just being a good friend to Kurt. Dave even told him not to do any harm on himself over the phone. Courtney tried to revive him numerous times b4. She said in 1of her interviews. Poking needles onto his private parts. Cuz he was in an oblivion state of mindset. Since when did Love knew how to revive him tho as a nurse as a doctor as a caregiver as a caretaker as a wife as a his own baby sitter.
This is very sad. Just imagine you’re at the airport and you see famous grudge stars Krist Novoselic and Kurt Cobain having a fist fight at an airport
@@terg8472 yeah grunge
The record company should of had handlers with him after Rome especially!!!
So many people let him down but none more than Courtney !!
Tricking him, playing games, making him feel bad when he dropped Francis etc (yes I know that’s not cool at all)
He needed help so bad, Courtney knew he wanted a divorce and I’m not convinced she tried push him to do it or had it done!!
He didn't try to "kill himself" in Rome. When we were younger than him, we would take tons of Rohypnol to have wonderful experiences. I'm calling BS!!!
Krist was known in Aberdeen to be a brawler, but Kurt was scrappy. Depends on what you're fighting for...He has never had the same light in his eyes since Kurt died...
P.S. It was a Jack in the Box, not McDonald's, not important.
I mean it's rough that it was his final interaction with him, but he was doing what a real friend should do in those circumstances. Peace.
I hate the matter-of-fact "next question" aspect of the interviewer at the end. Bro, leave the guy alone
i wonder sometimes if novoselic and grohl had something along with love to do with it like they all three benefited from it if u think about it idk im naturally skeptical tho and dont trust ppl but its always been in back of head idk
God I felt so bad for Kris if Kurt gotten help Nirvana would’ve been here today
They were gonna break up
nah nirvana was over even if kurt survived.
How is any of this confirmed tho?
Krist Anthony NOVOSELIC
16 de mayo de 1965
58 años.
You know what's in airports? Cops. Security. Cameras. People. Strange to think the scene described here happened _at all,_ that it was allowed to happen and that no one heard about this until almost 30 years later? Sus.
What would Dave and Pat do if They were there?
Kurt sounds like a real good guy !
You can’t force anyone to get sober. Now matter how you or they want it.
informative video, love it - but i just gotta say: krist’s last name is pronounced “no-vuh-sell-ick”
Erm, afraid not. He’s of Croatian descent and Europeans pronounce it as Nov-o-sell-itch
Wrongggg
Kurt is such a tragic figure, we all wish it could have gone better, no one more than his band mates
Where were they gonna go? Was he taking Kurt to rehab?
Shoutout to Krist for powering through even after losing his best friend. R I P Kurt
kinda wish i didnt watch this video, too tragic. poor guys