So Sad. He was so close to Kurt. And they complimented each other artistically so we'll, it must have felt like a part of Krist died with Kurt. RIP Kurt
he s right. what the fuck is changed now for Kurt that is died in 1994 instead that whatever fucking 2034 ?? there has been milions of years before him and others billion will be after our period of life. our life is soo short compare to the time , he just made sad his family and millions of fans , he could live something more, even a bit bored, like a lot of us, and grew up his daughter, play new sound again, he would have find out other passion or curiosity in life, his daughter would have start to ask him advise for her life, stupid, stupid, painful, teenager mindset decision to kill himself. Novoselic summed up all these thing in one sentence
@@SwampDweller67 shut the fuzz up kurt cobain was murdered by courtney love and how about some convincing for u the toxicology report said that kurt cobain wouldnt been able to pull the trigger bcause of the amount of drugs in his system and he is from aberdeen washington where the town is known to shoot guns and kurt cobain knows how to shoot one and if u dont blieve me go ask his wife and see what answers u will get
Yea I hate it because krist is such a cool guy with great personality. Like ask him questions about himself to, that would be just as good if not more.
@@TheSexhaver2625 No not at all? If Krist didn’t have Curt, he would be like 99.9% of other bassist out there who never made it. He has millions of dollars because of Cobain’s songwriting, he should be thankful. No shame in that
@@epiclybeans7319 it i wanted to hear him just talk i would have clicked krist novoselic just talks not krist novoselic gets brutally honest about kurt.
Krist wasn’t his best friend, especially not around the time Kurt passed away. Dylan Carlson was Kurt’s best friend around the time of his passing, him and Krist weren’t even on good terms
@@NOPRISONERSMK I believe that. They didn't seem like they were on good terms. And frankly I can imagine krist being a douche to Kurt. And siding more with Dave grohl. And basically letting Kurt get killed.
It hilarious that when asked about the future of Nirvana, Krist says “I don’t know ....maybe we would have sucked......look at foo fighters”.....but then continues to praise FF. It was just phrased funny
@@blackgoku4109 sometimes my friends make jokes about me so I make jokes back about how it was "funny" so maybe they could get the hint I'm tired of it so maybe deep down he dosent like them..
How about an actual quote: "Hope I die before I turn into Pete Townshend. It would look ridiculous to do what we're doing now when I'm 40. That's why I want to destroy my career before it's too late."
Krist seems like a sweet person to me and accessible. I say this because I met him a couple times back in the day when I would go out in Seattle. One time my friends and I recognized him and he stopped at our table, shook our hands and talked to us a little bit.
“He was out of his mind on heroine” pretty much sums it up. People aren’t themselves on hard drugs or heavy drinking. They become an awful, cartoon version of themselves.
@@romans52345-cy3tq Well. He had chronical pain and heroin is the type of drug that develops tolerance. So when he was sober the pain was 10x worse, he might have seen the future as a addicted or having to deal with the chronical pain and decided that was better stop right there when he was still loved
I think its a little more complicated than that. I'm in long term (10+yrs) recovery from heroin addiction, and it would make me really sad if Anyone Ever summed up even the worst parts of my life that way. Being "out of his mind on heroin" isn't a proper excuse or rationalisation, and it shouldn't b a reason to write off the behavior of anyone. Even at their worst junkies still think and feel, probably a lot more than most people. Drug addicts, at least the ones I've met and known, are incredibly sensitive people, that's why they use in the first place!!!! Idk why I look at these comments. Its just a distilling of the world's attitudes about junkies, and heroin addiction in general. If u don't have Personal experience with it maybe u should keep it to yourself. And if u do, I think u missed something.
don't get it twisted and try to say that im avoiding the fact that people aren't in their right mind when they're using. You're right, they aren't. I just think your tidy little summary is a bit too neat of a package, mate.
I've always had a theory that had Kurt lived he would've broken up the band and then put out a largely acoustic solo album. I don't know why I think that but I do.
In an interview I read from 1993 he had the plan to make atleast one or two more albums before ending the band, cause he didn't want to keep making albums for years.
It's never fair to ask someone who lost a dear friend or loved one to suicide whether or not they could have been saved, because they will go on the rest of their lives wondering what they could have done, and the fact is, it's a moot point. In most cases, no, there's nothing anyone could've done. And it's not the fault of anyone that it happened. But they have to go on living with a heaping pile of survivor's guilt, anyway. Suicide is tragic, whether you're a rock star, loved the world over, or someone unknown with few friends and no family to mourn you. That things can make you so miserable that you see no way to change your circumstances but to bring your life to an end is an unbearable reality to face.
really depends how you view the world, if you think everyone is connected then its all our fault someone commits sucidide, if you think we're all individual and not connected you will not take responsibility, nature makes all types i think just to balance everything
@@mikejones-vd3fg The way I see it, there's no reason to lay blame. We've been doing it since the dawn of time, and it has yet to end suicides. We certainly are all connected, but we're all experiencing life in individual ways, and no matter what our circumstances, we're all just human beings, struggling through existence. We're all bound to respond to the human experience in infinite different ways, and some people will endure pain that, for whatever reason, they don't believe they can overcome. I'm not interested in whose fault it is that they choose to exit rather than soldier on. It's their life. You and I don't have to justify our choice to continue living, and those who end their lives don't have to justify their choice, either. All we can do is try to ease the suffering of other people every time we're faced with an opportunity to do so. It won't make the choice for the people we encounter, but maybe it might give them one more reason to stick around and see what the world has to offer that they haven't seen yet.
Trust me, Krist doesn't blame himself for anything. He knows as well as we all do that this was Courtney's doing! My friend is buddies with Krist's wife, Darbury and he has said many times to many people "one day the truth will come out". It's already out Krist but you are afraid to say what you know. Why? Courtney is a sad skank. Why is everyone so afraid to speak up? Anyone who thinks any different needs to watch "Soaked in Bleach" the documentary by Tom Grant who solved this case long ago.
Acousitc? Maybe! Solo? No! On January 27, 1994, David Fricke interviewed Kurt Cobain for the Rolling Stone magazine. You can find the whole article here. www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kurt-cobain-the-rolling-stone-interview-success-doesnt-suck-97194/ During this interview Kurt Cobain said the following. ''I don’t think I could ever do a solo thing, the Kurt Cobain Project.'' ''I know we’re (Nirvana) gonna put out one more record, at least, and I have a pretty good idea what it’s going to sound like: pretty ethereal, acoustic, like R.E.M.’s last album.''
Man I think kurt really did kill himself. I think he booted up enough to end his life and when he was feeling at bliss from the heroine he shot himself. The weird stuff like all the needles and drug paraphernalia put back in the box was probably the cops first on scene. I think they just screwed up and put all the stuff in the box before taking pictures. Love canceled the credit card because she hadn't heard from kurt. Kurt was known to give his credit card to people so they could get his drugs so kurt didnt have to leave the house to get his supplies of drugs. I could be wrong but I think the private investigator just wanted a bit of fame. In reality we all will never know the truth. He was going thru allot of fame, drug use, anxiety, and stomach problems. He was in pain. I think he had ibs or celiac disease and all that stuff combined especially in a drug state of mind was enough for him. He was a very humble person from what I read. I dont think he enjoyed the fame really. Well what came with the fame. You could see allot of his anxiety somtimes in clips. The only thing I want to know is if his friend who bought him the shotgun for him was with him at the gun shop. That's an un answered question I can't find anywhere. I still have my doubts about his suicide. I do think courtney knew he was dead before hand and wanted media attention. But if she did it or not. Who knows
@@murdermuseum8280 yeah I know Allen Wrench bought it but I wanna know if kurt was with him at the time of purchase. I also wanna know why a 20 gauge. And if he used buck shot or a slug. There was no blood splatter. If he was already dead there would be little blood. But if he used bird or buck shot there would be no splatter because it wouldn't have made it thru the other side of of his head. And kurt loved guns. He got all his confiscated. So why a 20 gauge to off yourself. In the moment he probably didnt care but I have trouble believing someone would use a 20 gauge for suicide. No matter how in the moment
I think Krist don’t say much, because he love kurt and his world was shattered When he kill himself. I think it left him heartbroken too. He don’t say much because the media just make stories out of it. He didn’t just lose his band mate that day, he lost his friend. It is so sad what happen and Kurt was a good guy. He was just like us and never acted bigger then any one else. Didn’t want all that rich star bullshit. I bet Krist wish he could of done something to save Kurt.
Dude, you are soooo naive. I hate it when people can't see through the fakery. First of all: Kurt was not murdered, either by his own hand or someone else's. If I had the time, I would put his genealogy here for everyone to read! Because then, MAYBE, you might be able to catch on to the scam. He's related to everybody that's anybody!! These people don't kill themselves. They ALWAYS fake their deaths in order to make more money, even though they don't need the money!!
As a young kid (about 13) when teen spirit went GLOBAL, I'll never forget Kurt Cobain saying how he felt uncomfortable that the song was being blaied out of people "driving around in BMW's" and it depressed him as this was (obvisly) Not what Nirvana were all about, As a young kid those words resonated massively with me. Kurt Cobain. The ultimate example of just a simple man, that loved to make music & rock, but deeply uncomfortable with the corporate side of the business. R.I.P Kurt - never forgotten.
My impression was that Kurt never really knew what he wanted and his interviews appeared to reflect that. Much of the time he said whatever he felt like - quite how much of it was true we’ll never really know. Making music was clearly his antidote to the bullshit of life but Nirvana became too big too quickly and that created it’s own problems for him. I can’t help but wonder how he would have faired if he had met someone stable rather than CL though 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Bleach actually is one of the album's that changed my life, as far as music genre. I was 14, listening to mainstream radio garbage and my cousin bought the cassette. I was completely enthralled with the raw, gritty energy. All my friends HATED it, which made me love it even, more and I still listen to it almost every single day. Opiate addiction is a monster unlike any other addiction I've encountered. You literally become completely dependent on the drug in every aspect of your being. It's honestly a miracle I got clean because it was beyond agonizing.
I used to go out with a girl as a kid and she won a copy of bleach but from the og company subpop of which they're like only 500 in existence. She never liked grunge but would not give me the record anyway..I broke up soon after 😂
In some songs where he screams, you can realize he was insane completely, like he call for suicide...Blackheart, no singer in any hard rock genre is match to Cobain if u ask me, all honor to Ozzy, Halford, Dio etc.
Congratulations on getting out of the clutches of the hard to break habit that held you down and back... I wish you continuing strength as you move forward.
Hate to be that dude in the comments giving life advice but man, if you feel yourself on the verge of a "breakdown" get some help, talk to people, realize it's happening and do what you can to stop it. Sometimes we get too caught up in what were feeling to look at what's going on and before we realize it it's too late and we explode..
After 30 years, after ALL the times krist and Dave have repeatedly, repeatedly said it wasnt Courtney, they never even did so much as imply it--after all this damn time, you guys are still locked into you Q-anon type conspiracy theories--it’s so just kinda funny to me at this point--IF it was, don’t u think Dave or krist would’ve cracked and come out with it by now--I mean, seriously, who,would have a better sense of the whole situation than THOSE TWO DUDES??--I don’t know, I guess if ur just stubborn in your theories, and have ZERO clue what the disease of depression is, and how it can ruin a persons mind, I guess you could hold on to your delusions. And, yes, I have seen “soaked in bleach” or whatever it’s called, and as always, docs like that interview these NOBODIES, who barely knew Kurt, or claim they knew him, and they talk about, idiotically about what a happy, happy, happy, happy, funny person he was --it’s just you guys have no clue what it is to be clinically, possibly psychotically deppressed--some of us do. Furthermore, some one as drug addicted and sloppy as Courtney,,there’s just no way in hell, someone with her recklessness, could pull off murdering, literally, the most famous man in the world.....before the worlds eyes,,and everyone in their scene’s eyes....and I don’t know, the obtuse-ness of the conspiracy theorists just boggles my mind
@@vincentvancraig Instead of focusing on what people say, how about focusing on what the science says. The amount of heroin in kurt was about 300% higher than the highest recorded amount anyone has survived. He would have been unconscious before even getting the needle out. Yet all of the equipment were absolutely cleaned and put pack in the box. Then he would have had to take the shotgun, instead of sitting on the stool that was there, he went on the floor to lay down (like perhaps he was unconscious at that time and faking the stool shooting was impossible) and then shot himself. But the shell had flown to opposite direction of where it should have, even though there was nothing there to ricochet it, except there was another dude who pulled the trigger. Kurt's case cannot be more clear murder unless there are lots of witnesses with cameras. The dude had divorce papers ready, only missing his signatures, but he would kill himself and leave everything to the woman who he hate? The "suicide note" has two different writers. Courtney had a paper filled with her training to write as Kurt, she was so in drugs that she left the backpack to her lawyer who found the paper. And that style matches with the suicide note. There are people who can be brainwashed to think whatever the establishment wants just by declaring something as conspiracy theory. when in fact most of the so called theorists are looking things from the perspective of physics, math, hard sciences and logic. Then media pushes the insane narratives like Qanon and flat earth and the common folk is now brainwashed. It's the oldest for of information warfare and it seems to work with the normies no matter how long it's been used. Realize this, and actually thoroughly look into the evidence before spouting shit, or just ignore the whole topic if you are not interested. AmericanSpyFox RUclips channel's Nirvana series has all the evidence. It also has the interview of Dr.Cyril Wecht who is the most experienced and most renounced criminal pathologists who already was big enough to be handled the JFK case, and most of the big cases since. He has done 21000 autopsies, supervised 41000 and he says there's no case where someone has taken a ton of heroin and then shot himself. And also the fact about the heroin level. You couldn't have more clear motive on top of that, and there's tons of direct evidence against the person who has all the motive in the world to end Cobain. Maybe also after realizing that case you should open up and look into the most important "conspiracy theories" as most of them can be 100% proven by physics alone, and there's usually enough other types of evidence too for those without great skills in physics.
@@laura-qh9xp Check my answer to Vincentcancraig, Courtney wasn't the one who shot Cobain up after he was out, both with heroin and shotgun, but she was 100% behind those acts. There is so much proof that when you see it, you cannot believe that it wasn't investigated and Courtney wasn't arrested.
I didn't know much about Nirvana when I saw them at this tiny basement venue in Pennsylvania in 1990 (all of about 50 people showed up.) But in hindsight, I do remember Kurt looking more relaxed and happy than I ever saw him in the years after they hit it big. I think success really messed with his head. Some people find it difficult to deal with success, especially when it involves stardom -- all the changes and expectations and demands and the constant spotlight. I'm not saying it's what led to his death but I think it made it a lot harder for him to deal with the depression and drugs and everything else he was struggling with.
He hated the corporate machine. I still kind of wonder if he was pushed to suicide or he was suicided. Do you see him pushing the cov Vax like the other celebs? They really ramped up using celebs in the 90s like this.
Yeah. Sure. He doesn't condemn the stupidity of heroin addiction. He only condemns the suicide. It is appears to have been an UNHEALTHY relationship -- and that is NOT about love.
@@jnagarya519 krist actually warned kurt a lot about his addiction and tried to get him help on multiple occasions however kurt would have gotten angry with krist if he had mentioned it. Whenever someone deals with an addiction Especially with drugs it’s good to have support and concerns but at the end of the day it’s down to that actual person to help themselves and this is exactly what this situation was like. Krist and kurt knew each other way back from Highschool, I’m sure if they had an unhealthy relationship they would have ended it.
@@hallemontgomery5731 They obviously had an unhealthy relationship -- and you do the same thing: extreme individualist "do your own thing" is "freedom". The fantasy of "there are no limits". Death is one of them; short of that, self-destructiveness. But when a group of individuals are all about "freedom" without limits, they include the celebration of self-destruction. Because "do your own thing"; "rebel" against reason itself.
Big hair glam rock was fizzling out on it's own. The turd Nirvana pushed out just happened to fill the toilet where the big glam hair bands were in before.
you're so stupid. he hates him because kurt wanted to leave nirvana and that is why he shits on his memory with lies he knew day one his wife had him murdered for his money.
Enjoy the music because you obviously can't enjoy being a football fan if you're a fan of the Bengals...I'm just kidding. I grew up loving the Bengals. I started following them in 1988 when I was 12 and finally realized somewhere around 2005'ish that they're a lost cause. The hadn't won a single playoff game since their Superbowl appearance in 1989 (still haven't won a PO game as far as I know), and I've never even been to Cincinnati (I'm from Oklahoma), so why TF do I care about this NFL team? lol...Honestly, I just lost interest in the NFL altogether. I'm more of a college football fan (Oklahoma Sooners). At any rate, I understand your pain and frustration, from a former Bengals fan to a current fan.
@@Tom_Van_Zandt Yea,life is pretty tough being a Bengals fan. I have been a fan of the Bengals my entire life. I started following them in 1989 when Boomer Esiason was their quarterback,Icky Woods and James Brooks was their tailbacks and Tim Mcgee was their best receiver. They had probably the best offensive line in the NFL that season. Guys like Anthony Munoz,Max Montoya and Dave Lapham. They also had a great coach in Sam Wyche, but they just couldn't stop Joe Montana and Jerry Rice on the last 49ers drive of the game. I thought Marvin Lewis did an excellent job drafting and developing players under the ownership that he had in Cincinnati. With Mike Brown being very conservative with money in free agency Marvin Lewis was still able to put solid rosters together that made the playoffs several times but never won a playoff game as well. Their best chance was 2005 when Carson Palmer led that team to a 11-5 record and scored more points than any team in the league that season. It was just bad luck that he blew out his knee against the Steelers in that 2005 playoff game. That 2005 team was the best team the Bengals had since their super bowl appearance in 1989. I think they have a great QB right now in Joe Burrow along with Joe Mixon in the backfield. They just need a better offensive line to protect the quarterback and also open up running lanes for Joe Mixon. They hired a new head coach,(Zac Taylor) who hasn't done a very good job drafting and developing players,so I look for this team to finish last in the AFC North again this season. I just don't think Zac Taylor has the credentials or experience to lead this Bengals team to a playoff appearance or win. They have some pieces to build around,but ownership needs to spend the money and hire an experienced head coach with playoff success. Yes,it's been very tough being a Bengals fan these past few decades!! Lol..
@@DrunkenSlob Instead of getting another Nirvana record after in utero,we got Foo Fighters! I think Dave is a very talented musician,but the Foo fighters is nowhere close to the band Nirvana was and always will be. Kurt changed rock n Roll as we knew it when Nevermind was released.
Kurt and I are the same age so I vividly remember the day that he died. I was working as a TV production assistant and heard about it during the day. It was obviously devastating. Nirvana is probably the last band I ever got into
Thank you. A friend of mine committed suicide. Meth had taken over his life. I've grieved his loss for years, wondering if I could have done anything differently to help save him..., from himself. I just want to thank Mr. Novoselic"s instant remark.... I appreciate his thought and I'm going to keep that one in my heart when I think of my friend.
Don't blame yourself. I used to be an addict, as well. No one can save someone from addiction except for the addict. (Sorry for responding after so long; I just found your comment.) ♥️
@@waianaesara even if he was murdered which should be considered a possibility him and love were both going down a terrible downward spiral, kurt wanted to die extremely badly and was a mess so his comment still stands
Dave admitted that they were already split up before Kurt died in an interview. They were done. Cobain was supposed to start recording an album with REM. All this info is from various books on the band and Kurt.
Kurt was supposed to collaborate with Micheal Stipe not REM as a whole. Anyway, by most all accounts Nirvana as a functioning band was dead in the water by February 1994.
@@nananab.9985 Krist Dave Pat and even Kurt's grandparents said it was a suicide the band was intact so was the marriage they took break so Kurt could try to get help but he bailed
Im going through the same thing as COBAIN. Im bipolar type one with a lot of other underlining issues. Im getting sober for the first time. But i refuse give into my addiction. Kurt RIP
10 years battling heroin addiction here. When your deep in it, and I feel like every user gets like this at some point or another, you start to contemplate suicide, because you just can't see a pathway to recovery. I've been in and out of detoxes and sober living and the sort for years now and I always seem to just fall back into it. Its like I have a hole in my soul that only heroin can fill. If you don't use it's hard to explain, but it's a hell of an addiction. When I think about Cobain, and his choice to commit suicide, I don't think he made a stupid choice, I feel like some people just can't escape it and maybe death truly is a better alternative. Again, if you haven't been through it, don't act like you can even begin to comprehend the nightmares and struggles of using. Who am I to judge? Who am I to say? Maybe he made the right choice, who knows.
Krist you are a gentle man and you handled this interview in a gentle way. Thank you for clarifying Kurt's death. Poor guy. May he rest in peace and may the Nirvana crew and Kurt's family eventually find peace over this tragedy.
Nah been there, should have done a solo electronica drum machine with distorted vocals. That’s what I’m talking about. Maybe throw a handlebar mustache on just for shits and giggles.
Dave grohl and the foo fighters are just a pop rock mainstream band... Dave is gifted for sure, Kurt was a gift, few words can define his music or vocal to me, his Aura, angst and pain was other worldly.. Miss you buddy x
Just sad, I remember when I was younger and got so angry that Kurt killed himself, but now, more seasoned; one comes to realize that no one can ever know what someone else is going through...
I'm the biggest cobain fan ever and a recovering heroin addict. I wish Kurt would have got arrested and had to go to jail for a time because that was the only thing that saved me and most people can't get clean,and,healthy until they are forced
In 1991, when i first heard "teen spirit' is was absolutely stunning -- you can't know what it felt like unless you lived through the 80s glam metal days. i had listened to hardcore in the 80s, but nirvana sounded like more like metal, but it wasn't obeying the rules of metal. i remember feeling angry and embarrassed when kurt died, like oh fuck we are going to hear about this from the boomers who are already on our case about everything...the saddest story i heard from krist was when he was talking about pawn shopping. he said that shortly after kurt died, he was looking in a pawn shop window for left-handed guitars, and then he realized that he didn't have to do that anymore. :(
@@clintkantor I can't stand when anyone says that all new music sucks -- esp. from people of my generation (Gen X, the Nirvana generation) because those people resemble snobby Baby Boomers who have not yet figured out that they are nerds like the rest of us. When people say that, what it really means is that they have no idea how to listen to music and/or where to find it. it is not our job to judge music -- it is our job to listen to the musician, try to figure out what they are saying with it, and then maybe decide if you agree with it or not. my guess is that most Baby Boomers do not have the cultural context to even begin to understand what Nirvana was doing because they lived through the 1980s trying to shut down everything Gen X did with the satanic panic b/s.
I agree ! He's kinda the bob Dylan of his generation. He's not as talented as many of others from his generation but a solid fucking song writers. True fucking poet. I would never say he's as talented or capable as Jerry Cantrell, Chris Cornell, Trent Reznor, Billy Corgan and so on. Even his own band mates would say he's a shitty guitar player.
I don't know why Kurt's death affects me so much. I find other celeb deaths sad, like JFk Kennedy death or Marilyn's, but Kurt's was different. He was just a beautiful soul. And it makes you think that no matter who someone is, everyone is precious. He was a father, someone's son, best friend etc. His absence has left so much pain.
This describes how I feel, I know it’s been a long time and that but I’m still really sad. I think the reason is because although I absolutely love their music, it was him as a person too that makes me love it even more which is why I’m still devastated even though I wasn’t even alive when he was, it feels like he was a friend I needed and someone who you can count on and open up to. Rip Kurt we love you and I know he will come back one way or another, even if it’s not in human formz
Krist and Kurt were friends first and having to talk about your close friend killing himself over and over and over again must be so traumatic for him. I just feel bad for Krist. He lost his good friend and all we, the public, want to know is about Cobain's last horrible, twilight days...
Nirvana was great for the time period they were in...they defined a movement and an attitude of a generation, kinda how the bands of the 60’s did at Woodstock. You could feel the pain in the lyrics and music of the early 90’s.
@@wattage2007 People in Seattle were pressuring Kurt to begin juggling on stage. Many people don`t know that he was better than most Japanese jugglers and the fans of this amazing talent of his felt extremely betrayed. This sent him into a downward spiral because you can`t juggle, play guitar, and sing at the same time. He would always juggle while laying down vocal tracks to help himself keep time and on isolated vocals you can hear it. His death was a sad day for circus fans. But many of them had been stalking him and perhaps he would have never bought that shotgun if they would have simply left him alone.
He's not being "brutally honest", the part in which he added that Kurt wasn't in his right mind after the Rome incident because he didn't suceed in killing himself was just standard honest, the "he should never have done that" is based on that, is a predictable detail, even though he always was a suicidal person, it's cristal clear that Krist keeps a lot for himself and that's understandable being literally his personal life, obviosly the fans would love to know the details of the dark situation anyway hah.
I’m pretty sure the only person that knows anything and I believe it’s everything would be Courtney love. She’s paid off our threatened people to keep away from that entire subject including interviews . They are only to speak about it if she brings it up.
2:33 - Just to say, that photo with Thor Lindsay is from December 14, 1993 when Nirvana played Salem Armory Auditorium. Look up the gig and you'll see other photos with both Kurt and Thor wearing the same clothes.
I think Dave felt comfortable behind the drum-set and has said in interviews that Kurt’s death scared/inspired him to take on life and actually do a solo project. He said he had a hard time playing music following Kurt’s death. The first song he wrote for the first foo fighters album was a grief stricken Dave letting his heart out about the situation. He said the writing of that song made foo fighters possible. Never told us which song it is, but people have their ideas.
Foos are not a solo project. In fact, the very theme of the movie "STudio 666" is that Dave kills all his bandmates so he can finally have a solo career.
It's also bologna that Kurt's death inspired him to take on life or whatever corny stuff he says. He was already playing writing and singing long before Nirvana. The only thing his death inspired him to do was be a celebrity and sell out.
@@chops4986 nice opinion. First off, it’s baloney. Bologna is a city in Italy. Baloney was termed in the 1930s by then New York Governor Alfred E. Smith. Secondly, Grohl says these things I stated in a 2018 PBS News Hour interview. Look it up. Lastly, selling out means changing who you are in order to achieve financial/celebrity status. What did Grohl change about himself? Can celebrity and success not be achieved without selling out? Foo Fighters stayed in the game long enough to achieve fame and success. Grohl drummed for years as a nobody. If you work hard, you too can become envied by others. Thanks for your reply on a year old comment though. I forgot about this one.
@@ericab1302 BS of course he intended to release it. And he was writing songs way before foos. He started off playing guitar before even meeting Kurt. He was just a natural and always wanted to be famous and a legend.
@@benwaters4659 I know just image the songs they would have written. I think the material close to what could have been are the covers he did if the meat puppets on unplugged. He may not have been the must technical guitarist but with what he could with what he know he know how to make complex melodies. Just listen to piano versions of his songs.
@@shut-up-Beavis I read that Kurt and him became really good friends. They would spend hours over the phone talking about music and books and stuff. Michael Stipe wrote him a letter while he was in rehab that he found one of Kurts moon rings he lost while the band was playing in Georgia in sometime in 93. Someone close to REM gave it to Michael and Michael gave it to one of his close friends who was dying from cancer.
@@69beeker In late 1995 Courtney Love gave Peter Buck from REM one of Kurts jag stand guitars. The band Wrote the song, “ Let Me In” which is on Monster. Good song and nice tribute.
Kurt and Courtney had a co-dependent relationship. She was the enabler and he was the victim. No different to any other co-dependent relationships I am sure we have all seen at some point in our lives. Maybe we ourselves have been stuck in one, or loved ones we have seen as we watch on in horror. It's pretty clear that the victim either gets the hell out of dodge or suffers an horrendous outcome. Throughout the years Courtney Love has tried her hardest to appear reformed and healed, but her highly narcissistic personality type just cannot help itself. It rears up and enters into the fray even many moons after the dust of her former chaos has settled.
@@VelcroKittie Yes, you get it. She targeted a famous wealthy celebrity, as was her pattern, and manipulated an emotionally vulnerable, naïve Cobain into submission and buried him emotionally. he was smart and intuitive enough to realize it but it was too late. He slid quickly into suicidal depression.
As a Seattle/Olympia Puget Sound kid about the same age as Kurt and well into the indy rock scene back then I can say honestly two things: 1) Drug addiction and getting involved with enablers sucks, and 2) Kurts death probably sold the majority of Nirvana records and elevated them to legendary status. Also, Dave (nicest guy in rock and roll ever) owes a lot of his superstar success to Kurt, although respectfully he doesn't do his songs.
Interesting take re: Nirvana's record sales and their legendary status. I was an AM radio kid, then an FM radio/MTV kid, rock and pop music fan since the age of four, born three years after Kurt. I'm fascinated by all things rock but detested "Teen Spirit" the moment I heard it thirty-two years ago and never warmed to it or much else by Nirvana as the decades progressed. Taste in music though is personal and not a big deal. Interesting to read another's thoughts on Grohl's enduring legacy, Nirvana's tremendous album sales and their legendary status over the decades.
The Cobain murder theorists still think that Krist is lying about Cobain's mental health, because Love is paying/threatening him... At what point will they finally fucking give up? Once Love is dead, are they just going to start blaming Bean??
I saw nirvana in Buenos Aires they never play Teen Spirit.. every time they went to a different song they played the first chords of Smells Like Teen Spirit and then would jump to another song.... they never played it. This is done because the crowd was rude to the back up band called Calamity Jane.. the dummies in the crowd acting all tough and stupid caused this. What a shame. Kurt got mad and said no Teen spirit for you dummies. I'll make you think I'm going to play it but I'm not. LOL it's all good.. still a good show
If it's true about Kobain having a chronic pain condition (Crohn's?), I know from experience, that shit (chronic pain) will simply turn you into a different person. Its unbelievably hard. It makes senses to me he would do whatever to make the pain stop. Shit is sad and hella difficult especially to know that an amazing artist died because of their gnawing ailments.
The people closest to Kurt in his last year all seem to say Kurt was suicidal in those days. Seems the whole Courtney murder theory /conspiracy is not supported by anyone who was really close to Kurt in that last year of his life. Anything is possible but one must factor in the likelihood of events. The likelihood for murder is much lower than suicide. I've watched countless interviews, documentaries ,etc from each side . Here we have yet another testimony of someone close to him who says it was suicide. A heart broken best friend who spent his last years and months with him. Suicide appears to be the unfortunate reality. ⭐
I agree with you, but at the same time i don't... something definitely went wrong... i've watched a video that was on youtube, it was a friend that was documenting his friend's heroin use and abuse, this guy was a 15 year heroin abuser and had collapsed veins everywhere, the inly place he could shoot up was in his grown... the guy shoot's up stand up but bent over with his pants down in order to shoot up, and he couldn't even finish injecting himself before he nodded off (passed out) stand up, bent over... needle was still in his groin... and the worst us that it was half of what kurt had in his blood stream. I just find it very hard to believe he injected himself with that much heroin, put the needle away nicely in his heroin kit and proceeded to pick up a shotgun and pull the trigger! It's not impossible, but raises the question if he did that act! Sorry so long! Cheers
@HARD TALK RADIO i get it, youre supposed to support and help your best friend, no matter what. But you cant force a grown man, whos 27 years old, to go to therapy or rehab or whatever. Sure, they could've convinced him to go there, but if he refused, theres nothing they could do.. He probably had lost hope in everything, after 6 times trying therapy. They couldnt control everything he did. At the end of the day, he was a rich person and could get drugs from literally anywhere. And its sad. If he wasnt so famous hed still be alive
I’ve watched and listened to probably 10 or more hours of documentaries and footage. That being said, everyone that was close to him said that he WASNT suicidal. Only Courtney kept pushing that into media. Besides all that he had a 3 times over lethal dose of heroin in his body. He wouldn’t have been able to even sit up with the gun in position. He was either already dead from the heroin or unconscious before someone else put the gun in the position and pulled the trigger to make the scene look like a suicide. It has even been proven that Seattle police botched the whole investigation and looking back on it the former chief admitted that if he were still chief he would reopen the case because he believes there was foul play involved.
The only thing that makes me think it was murder is kurt leaving Francis behind. Could he really leave his daughter alone in this world without a protector. The only thing he still loved was his 2 year old daughter. I couldn't do it to my kids anyway. And if that was the last thing he thought about I feel sorry for him.
@@yommmrr there are about 100+ suicides per day on average and over 48,000 per year. many of which, are fathers, mothers, grandparents, etc. you never know what people are going through, even if they have kids. kurt has on record said he was suicidal. he was not murdered. he was a very VERY troubled person.
I have a hard time listening to Krist talk about Kurt and just ignoring all the problems and questions surrounding Kurt's death and accepting the narrative. It's sad.
They were best fucking friends since they were kids, thats quite different than "accepting a narrative". Krists angle on this is totally different than anyone else's as he knew Kurt better than probably Kurts own family..actually he surely did. I highly doubt Krist even cares about all the speculation, for him, he lost a brother.
@@WhiteWolf-- Krist and Kurt were not close the last few months of Kurt's life. And evidence shows the rome incident was not a suicide attempt. That was only put out there by Courtney after Kurt died. So he is choosing to go along with Courtney's narrative. It's fairly simple.
Kurt cried for mental help when there was staged intervention and wanted psychologist to help him, but they did want to listen to him. He even got phone book and searched for contact when crying because he wanted to be helped. They pointed instead that his problem was drug use, but it was just depression remedy and not the real source of his problems. Krist realised it was wrong after Kurt died and he thought there is no other option to not be suicide as I suppose.
It breaks my heart. For as much as we mourn him as fans, I can't imagine what it was like for his close friends and family. It must have been absolutely devastating. I hope somewhere in him he knew how loved he was and how special he was. As far as what might have been? Whatever happened, it would have been incredible, just like Dave and Krist have done amazing things. Krist said that Kurt painted and wrote. Maybe he'd have done that. It may have actually been better if he had done that instead of the whole rock star thing. He really seemed to be conflicted about being in the spotlight and being a spokesman for a generation. That's a lot of pressure. I always call these guys icons and legends, but maybe that's wrong. It's kind of dehumanizing. He was a good man.
It would have been awesome to see what would’ve come from Kurt and Dave collaborating more on songwriting. There was obvious potential there and it seemed like it may have started going in that direction with songs like Marigold and Kurt’s appreciation for Alone + Easy Target.
I have a really hard time believing Kurt actually killed himself after watching Soaked in Bleach. It's the perfect alibi because of how he wrote his lyrics. He loved Frances too much.
I would believe kurt commited suicide if they would of found him dead with just the amount of heroin he had in his bloodstream or if they would of just found him with the gun in his hands and a bullet in his brain without the huge amount of heroin in his bloodstream or that they would of found him with the needle still in his arm, but i can not believe he injected that much heroin with diazepam, had his little cigar box heroin kit all neatly put away and then proceeded to take the gun and shot himself in the head... he would of been nodding off as soon as the injection would of took place! Something does not add up...
@@nickerickson7324 someone could be spiralling down and be suicidal and still get murdered! I don't think any of you know how heroin hits you in a ejection!
@@Ludeguy83 people who don’t know all of the facts and pass judgment are imbeciles. Cyril Wecht even said the gun barrel was too long for Kurt to pull trigger with his thumb, no prints on trigger, the cartridge was found on opposite side of his body so gun fired while pointed at him then turned around, his death grip on the gun was even done improper, Courtney’s notebook of her practicing his handwriting, the fact he was divorcing her and she signed a prenup and would receive nothing in divorce, and I can go on and on. Heroin addicts choose overdosing as suicide method. They don’t blow their heads off after shooting up it feels too good. He had enough money to OD. So I’m with you. I wish people could listen to both sides and agree to disagree instead of dismissing what you’re saying as nonsense when it’s no doubt facts. Have a good day! PS Courtney had him killed to gain total control of his estate.
Informative piece, my only thought/question is; what was the depth of Kurt's psychiatric disorder at the time of his death? Any input would be greatly appreciated- RIP Kurt-
My ex always tried to make the point that suicide is the ultimate autonomous decision that one can make and no one can take that right away from them. While I can understand that viewpoint, suicide solves nothing. I’d imagine that at least 85-100% of the time someone decides and actually commits suicide I guarantee they’re not in a centered frame of mind. I guess all I’m trying to say is if you’re suicidal and you feel like you’re ready, try to stop or at least postpone and give some though to the possibility that the power to turn things around is in your hands and there are people who can help you get back on track. The world is shit, people are shit, but it’s all the beautiful moments in between that make sticking around worth it. Don’t just give up y’all. We’re all in this shit together.
I think people should be allowed to do it if they super sick, or if they tried everything they can to be happy, and after years of trying , they should have that option
Nirvana changed my young life.. I will forever be grateful for that, Kurt died too young, but we all make choices in life, and I will not presume to second guess Kurts.
In another interview with Kurt Cobain, he mentions that he was interested in rendering an album of the typical guitar sounds, but with a more electronic feel to it. It's just not fair what happened to him; if he took his life or something more sinister, this shouldn't have been a result of death. No matter what, Cobain will always live brightly inside the hearts of so many people. We miss him, but we're not gonna crack.
It's scary how much I identify with Kurt and "doing that". I've felt that way my whole life. Some of us are just wired that way. Now I'm middle aged and I still feel that way. I could never do it. I've learned that about myself, but I still want to d*e somedays. It's just a get out of jail free card I keep in my back pocket, and knowing it's there is oddly comforting, and if things ever get unbearable enough I can play that card. But knowing how much it would hurt the people I care about keeps me from ever considering that as an option. I'll just live till I die, In The Fade, like Queens of the Stone Age. RIP Kurt.
awww..You are living with clinical depression, just as Kurt and I and many others have. But I did something about it, because I know exactly how you feel. You might want to, I highly suggest this, get on a mild anti depressant. I would suggest Prozac or Wellbutrin. I have tried them all, and those are two oldies but goodies. "Standbys" I call them. I was on both alternately for about 10 years. I then just got so busy and involved with my modeling and dancing,I am a ballerina, and I just didn't feel the need for the anti depressants any longer. I wish you all the best sweetie and please don't ever waste your precious life! I don't mean to sound pushy or presumptive. Sending you Much love from Paris,Pia Paradis 🎸
My experience has been similar to yours, struggling with depression off and on from my teens up to my 40’s. Like you, I refused to put my loved ones through the horror, so I never acted on those feelings and got what help I could, even checking myself into hospital one particularly grim night. But one thing about living with suicidal thoughts for decades is that you get used to the idea of dying. So, when cancer came for me, I was able to accept the diagnosis and I’m helping my family to deal with it. Still fighting, but it has become apparent over the last few weeks that the fight will end sometime in 2024. I hope to face it with grace, and I look forward to the peace that will follow. Hope you live well for a long time yet, and go peacefully when your time comes.
I remember being really bothered by all the people romanticizing his suicide - talking about how his success was just too at odds with his creative soul, and rationalizing his taking his own life like some act of artistic purity. I also remember reading a quote years ago, from whom I can't remember, about how much heroin addiction amplifies ones personal demons.
42 year old fan here. The biography "Come as You Are" by Michael Azerrad is a good read. I recommend it. There was something special about these grunge-era musicians that will never be re-produced again. Their uniqueness is still unmatched today. When I listen to Nevermind it still gets me today.
Sadly when you’re heavy into opioids or heroin you feel like you’re on a train going 1000mph and there’s no way to get off. You wanna quit but even after the withdrawals there’s a hole in your soul that’s always there.
@@_RobBanks "nOt WhEn yOu'Re SuCcEsSfUl" why do you wanna act like a know it all when it's clear that you really don't know what you're talking about? People will respect you more for admitting you lack knowledge on something and abstaining from giving a running commentary on it...
@@_RobBanks First of all, I'll never take anyone who doesn't know the different between 'your' and 'you're' seriously. Secondly, success doesn't fix the gaping hole in your soul after the heroin is out of the picture, people who are successful and have had an H problem will tell you the same thing.
Some older kids from my Boy Scout troop took me as a 14 y/o to see Nirvana at the 9:30 Club in DC to catch Nirvana. It was to this day the best show I have ever been apart of. That show changed my life in music, my only concert before that was The Grateful Dead.
It's sad to say, but if Kurt would have lived then, he would have probably never made it to 50 years old. He would have either died from an overdose later in his 30's, or Cancer would have taken him with all the cigarettes and drug usage. It's crazy to think, I mean, we all would have loved another album or two from Nirvana, and would have welcomed those solo records of his, but he didn't have that Keith Richards longevity in his soul.
I smoked like a chimney, usually around 30 a day, sometimes more for around 20 years, I also loved the old barbiturates which killed so so many friends. I was also an alcoholic for many years. Next I got addicted to heroin, overdosed a few times, got blood infections HepB/C, so understandingly i was close to death many times. Now I've stopped it all, zurvivors do exist, just because someone's struggling doesn't mean they'll succumb to it.
I don't think he would have necessarily died as a result of cigarettes or drug use (unless an overdose but I'm speaking of possible long term effects of drug use that could have killed him later) but practically everyone smoked in the 60s- 90s. Rock stars especially. Not everyone gets or got cancer. My uncle was a heavy smoker smoking 2 packs a day starting at age 12. He also was an alcoholic for over 40 years and used cocaine heavily . He died in his sleep at age 98. My grandfather however never drank, never did drugs or even smoked a cigarette and died unexpectedly of a heart at only age 39. Life is weird that way. Some people I feel are just meant to die young. I could not imagine Kurt as a 50 year old man. Then again I used to think similarly of Marilyn Manson. I couldn't imagine him as a 50 year old and yet I recently saw a video of him celebrating his 50th.
@@winterlynn9012 Of course all of that malarkey is risky behaviour. It would have been cool to see middle aged Kurt and to have followed his career. I think he would have aged like a fine wine.
all speculation...just like this being a suicide or a murder...none of us were there, including Chris...so he cant say Kurt pulled the trigger. Hes not going to question it bc he doesnt want to commit suicide too...
Foo fighters basically started while the Kurt was alive, Dave showed some demo songs of foo fighters to Kurt. Dave played drum, bass and guitar alone and was recording some demos while was playing with Nirvana.
I like Scott Weiland's wife's reaction to her husband's death. She was so tired of the outpouring of tributes and respect for him, because in reality he chose drugs, sex and rock'n'roll over a wife and kids. I've been a drug addict and nearly died several times. It's terribly selfish, and Kurt is no exception. Altogether sad.
Seattle native, I remember seeing Krist at a Sky Cries Mary show... he was so tall, towered over the rest of the crowd. Everyone thought SCM was going to be the next big thing (MTV, world tour etc) but I think they deliberately avoided that path. The town of Aberdeen wanted to put up a chainsaw sculpture of Kurt and Krist said that he would personally destroy it if they did 😅. Cool channel, I feel nostalgic for that time period, how living in Seattle we used to go see concerts on a regular basis, the Pain in the Grass shows, OK Hotel, Pioneer Square Theater, the Tchkung! riot at Bumbershoot... and how the philistines on the city council tried to restrict all that with the Teen Dance Ordinance and the flyering ban...
It would have been really interesting if the Curt and Michael Stipe collaboration ever got off the ground. From the sounds of it, they both really wanted to work together and had to just figure out the timing. I think it was a sign that Cobain wanted to explore a deeper, emotional, and more complexity in his art. They were two very talented artists, with completely different style, but they loved each other's styles. Just speculating, but Curt's lyrics were written poetically, but with little narrative. It was up to the listener to interpret the story on the lyrics and angst in the music. It worked really and he was very good at that. Stipe on the other hand, is a little more deep in telling the story with a more complex back drop. God, that would have been something worth doing. So sad it was close but never happened.
@@wantutosigh1117 I thought that too but he says shouldn't have done "it" maybe meaning whatever lead up to Kurt, well you know. He can't really make allegations can he. My heart hurts the most for Bean, Krist and Dave.
Whether it was a suicide or not I think she murdered him. She drove him to that. Men, even successful men need support and love from their wife to be ok. I cant say she directly staged a suicide by paying a hitman, but I can say the police were not interested in investigating it as anything else than a suicide. This could just be natural negligence on their part though. Seattle cops are notorious for not asking alot of questions when anyone dies when theres drugs involved. Its like the answers aint worth the work of digging for them. Cops were like that around here too. Theres a dude who burnt up in his truck with his dog allegedly on meth even though and cops just left his car sitting there for years outside in the weather in the same spot and never even investigated it forensically and it upset alot of people that time cause the mother was so outspoken. Unfortunately it was typical for cops to just be like "he did drugs? Eh. Dont worry about it then". Eric Cates and Gypsy the dog were their names if youre interested
If you look down into that darkness there’s not a lot down there looking back at you. I’ve been prone to depression in my life and suffered quite badly as a young man. Be kind to yourself, accept who you, be patient, let time pass and try to look out at the world, not in. There’s no answers down there, trust me.
I recall hearing the news of the passing in my early twenties and feeling like something got stolen from my life very quickly and the feeling being "no don't, don't go..." I mean the music lives on but just at the time something I felt deeply connected to just altered in a way I didn't expect. When I lived on the westcoast I was on a surfing adventure years after and realized that hey I was in Kurt's hometown...that logging town and the memories of my youth resurfaced and thinking "ok Kurt was from this place wow ok." Loved his creative energy, sad to see how he ended up.
I’ve always felt kinda bad that i was glad the foo fighters existed...I loved Nirvana but there’s something about Dave grohl’s music that resonated with me as I got older...
You mean Giants in the trees? Remember that he is also in the superband with ex-members of Soundgarden, it's called 3rd Secret. I like Giants in the trees a lot. Greetings
I think if they did one more album, they would have moved away from the grunge sound. Kurt said himself they have done what they can with that sound, and song ideas had dried up. Miss you Kurt. Thank you for everything x
Feel so bad for this poor guy we lost a musician but Krist lost a best friend and never not gets asked about it shame on these reporters cudos to Krist for how well he handles these horribly disrespectful questions
I think if Kurt never died, they’d still be together, but they’d just do live appearances occasionally. They would maybe do arena tours once every few years, and headline Glastonbury, download festival, Wacken, Reading every few years (same as bands like Tool, Alice In Chains, NIN and Rammstein) but wouldnt release new music, maybe an EP every now and then. Kurt woulda done a solo album, Dave still would’ve created a project (that would become Foo Fighters I’m sure)
Was working with my High School Buddies, in a Milk Factory ( Now a High Rise Unit Complex ), but, We were all in Shock that Morning, I still Watch Unplugged in New York on DVD Regularly, was 22, 50 this Year?, WE ALL MISS YOU KURT??.
Krist is brutally honest: “Kurt shouldn’t have done that”. Wow. I’m bowled over by the honesty.
So Sad. He was so close to Kurt. And they complimented each other artistically so we'll, it must have felt like a part of Krist died with Kurt. RIP Kurt
he s right. what the fuck is changed now for Kurt that is died in 1994 instead that whatever fucking 2034 ?? there has been milions of years before him and others billion will be after our period of life. our life is soo short compare to the time , he just made sad his family and millions of fans , he could live something more, even a bit bored, like a lot of us, and grew up his daughter, play new sound again, he would have find out other passion or curiosity in life, his daughter would have start to ask him advise for her life, stupid, stupid, painful, teenager mindset decision to kill himself. Novoselic summed up all these thing in one sentence
kurt cobain was murdered he didnt commit suicide
@@valeshia385 Yawn
@@SwampDweller67 shut the fuzz up kurt cobain was murdered by courtney love and how about some convincing for u the toxicology report said that kurt cobain wouldnt been able to pull the trigger bcause of the amount of drugs in his system and he is from aberdeen washington where the town is known to shoot guns and kurt cobain knows how to shoot one and if u dont blieve me go ask his wife and see what answers u will get
I hate that everytime that Krist gets interviewed, it's always about Kurt's death, please stop touching the scar man 😐
Yea I hate it because krist is such a cool guy with great personality. Like ask him questions about himself to, that would be just as good if not more.
Krist is nothing without Cobain, what do you expect. He owe’s him everything
@@DannyBZ9 Jesus you’re joking right?
@@TheSexhaver2625 No not at all? If Krist didn’t have Curt, he would be like 99.9% of other bassist out there who never made it. He has millions of dollars because of Cobain’s songwriting, he should be thankful. No shame in that
@@DannyBZ9 I understand that you just worded it very cold
This should be called “3 sentences from Krist and a ton of opinion from the goof who made this!”
The state of journalism today.
right! so fucking annoying.
@@epiclybeans7319 it i wanted to hear him just talk i would have clicked krist novoselic just talks not krist novoselic gets brutally honest about kurt.
Totally. It’s like the biggest goof dorky dude is hip in his own mind. Okay. Free to be you
😂
Poor Krist. He's gotta be tired of hearing about his best friend's tragic death:(
Yea:(
Why would you get tired of remembering someone who passed away
Krist wasn’t his best friend, especially not around the time Kurt passed away. Dylan Carlson was Kurt’s best friend around the time of his passing, him and Krist weren’t even on good terms
@@NOPRISONERSMK I believe that. They didn't seem like they were on good terms. And frankly I can imagine krist being a douche to Kurt. And siding more with Dave grohl. And basically letting Kurt get killed.
The media are similar to a swarm of vultures they only make things worse.
It hilarious that when asked about the future of Nirvana, Krist says “I don’t know ....maybe we would have sucked......look at foo fighters”.....but then continues to praise FF. It was just phrased funny
Aha was thinking that myself....
Yeah I think deep down krist despises FF lol
He was obviously making a joke
@@blackgoku4109 or was he
@@blackgoku4109 sometimes my friends make jokes about me so I make jokes back about how it was "funny" so maybe they could get the hint I'm tired of it so maybe deep down he dosent like them..
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not" - Kurt Cobain
Kurt liked and did say this but the quote was not his
Me too
Kurt said this but he didn’t come up with it he was quoting others
Well he is done with foreplay and he technically did follow doctors orders.... but I still think Dre said it first.
How about an actual quote: "Hope I die before I turn into Pete Townshend. It would look ridiculous to do what we're doing now when I'm 40. That's why I want to destroy my career before it's too late."
"kris gets brutally honest about kurt"
kris: "he shudda never dun 'at. wut he did. he shudda never dun 'at."
😂😂😂😂
As soon as he said it I came looking for this comment lol
Lmfao
Hahaha
What a waste of time
@Captain Howdy I have to totally agree. I laugh at most all the interviews.
Krist seems like a sweet person to me and accessible. I say this because I met him a couple times back in the day when I would go out in Seattle. One time my friends and I recognized him and he stopped at our table, shook our hands and talked to us a little bit.
“He was out of his mind on heroine” pretty much sums it up. People aren’t themselves on hard drugs or heavy drinking. They become an awful, cartoon version of themselves.
Is Heroin a hard drug?
@@romans52345-cy3tq Well. He had chronical pain and heroin is the type of drug that develops tolerance. So when he was sober the pain was 10x worse, he might have seen the future as a addicted or having to deal with the chronical pain and decided that was better stop right there when he was still loved
I think its a little more complicated than that. I'm in long term (10+yrs) recovery from heroin addiction, and it would make me really sad if Anyone Ever summed up even the worst parts of my life that way. Being "out of his mind on heroin" isn't a proper excuse or rationalisation, and it shouldn't b a reason to write off the behavior of anyone. Even at their worst junkies still think and feel, probably a lot more than most people. Drug addicts, at least the ones I've met and known, are incredibly sensitive people, that's why they use in the first place!!!! Idk why I look at these comments. Its just a distilling of the world's attitudes about junkies, and heroin addiction in general. If u don't have Personal experience with it maybe u should keep it to yourself. And if u do, I think u missed something.
don't get it twisted and try to say that im avoiding the fact that people aren't in their right mind when they're using. You're right, they aren't. I just think your tidy little summary is a bit too neat of a package, mate.
Yeah sure drogadicts struggle but he had plans for Solo Albums and divorce Courtney, so there.
I've always had a theory that had Kurt lived he would've broken up the band and then put out a largely acoustic solo album. I don't know why I think that but I do.
He was going to work with Michael stipe on a similar idea but was suicided!
In an interview I read from 1993 he had the plan to make atleast one or two more albums before ending the band, cause he didn't want to keep making albums for years.
@@rohazsihctib177 *but was a victim of suicide
@@bruh-gn5kc a lot can change between '93 and '94. Not saying you're wrong but really who knows?
@@ddobry21 and that's the problem no one knows shit and it stinks to high heaven!
It's never fair to ask someone who lost a dear friend or loved one to suicide whether or not they could have been saved, because they will go on the rest of their lives wondering what they could have done, and the fact is, it's a moot point. In most cases, no, there's nothing anyone could've done. And it's not the fault of anyone that it happened. But they have to go on living with a heaping pile of survivor's guilt, anyway. Suicide is tragic, whether you're a rock star, loved the world over, or someone unknown with few friends and no family to mourn you. That things can make you so miserable that you see no way to change your circumstances but to bring your life to an end is an unbearable reality to face.
Soooo true
really depends how you view the world, if you think everyone is connected then its all our fault someone commits sucidide, if you think we're all individual and not connected you will not take responsibility, nature makes all types i think just to balance everything
@@mikejones-vd3fg The way I see it, there's no reason to lay blame. We've been doing it since the dawn of time, and it has yet to end suicides. We certainly are all connected, but we're all experiencing life in individual ways, and no matter what our circumstances, we're all just human beings, struggling through existence. We're all bound to respond to the human experience in infinite different ways, and some people will endure pain that, for whatever reason, they don't believe they can overcome. I'm not interested in whose fault it is that they choose to exit rather than soldier on. It's their life. You and I don't have to justify our choice to continue living, and those who end their lives don't have to justify their choice, either. All we can do is try to ease the suffering of other people every time we're faced with an opportunity to do so. It won't make the choice for the people we encounter, but maybe it might give them one more reason to stick around and see what the world has to offer that they haven't seen yet.
Courtney did it !
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Trust me, Krist doesn't blame himself for anything. He knows as well as we all do that this was Courtney's doing! My friend is buddies with Krist's wife, Darbury and he has said many times to many people "one day the truth will come out". It's already out Krist but you are afraid to say what you know. Why? Courtney is a sad skank. Why is everyone so afraid to speak up? Anyone who thinks any different needs to watch "Soaked in Bleach" the documentary by Tom Grant who solved this case long ago.
Brings tears to my eyes. He clearly loved Kurt and it seems his fun loving goofy spirit died with Kurt. So sad.
Kurt was already thinking about doing some acoustic solo projects.
Have you heard Do Re Mi by him? It’s heartbreaking when you listen to it...
The Unplugged was a warm up.
@@cxyzzle Yeah it is. Also Old Age solo as well.
no Cobain had told others he was done with the music business an had no more songs to write
Acousitc? Maybe! Solo? No!
On January 27, 1994, David Fricke interviewed Kurt Cobain for the Rolling Stone magazine. You can find the whole article here. www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kurt-cobain-the-rolling-stone-interview-success-doesnt-suck-97194/
During this interview Kurt Cobain said the following.
''I don’t think I could ever do a solo thing, the Kurt Cobain Project.''
''I know we’re (Nirvana) gonna put out one more record, at least, and I have a pretty good idea what it’s going to sound like: pretty ethereal, acoustic, like R.E.M.’s last album.''
"Kurt should've never done that (married Courtney Love)"
boom
@@ivorzar8594 Yet proved nothing.
Man I think kurt really did kill himself. I think he booted up enough to end his life and when he was feeling at bliss from the heroine he shot himself. The weird stuff like all the needles and drug paraphernalia put back in the box was probably the cops first on scene. I think they just screwed up and put all the stuff in the box before taking pictures. Love canceled the credit card because she hadn't heard from kurt. Kurt was known to give his credit card to people so they could get his drugs so kurt didnt have to leave the house to get his supplies of drugs. I could be wrong but I think the private investigator just wanted a bit of fame. In reality we all will never know the truth. He was going thru allot of fame, drug use, anxiety, and stomach problems. He was in pain. I think he had ibs or celiac disease and all that stuff combined especially in a drug state of mind was enough for him. He was a very humble person from what I read. I dont think he enjoyed the fame really. Well what came with the fame. You could see allot of his anxiety somtimes in clips. The only thing I want to know is if his friend who bought him the shotgun for him was with him at the gun shop. That's an un answered question I can't find anywhere. I still have my doubts about his suicide. I do think courtney knew he was dead before hand and wanted media attention. But if she did it or not. Who knows
@@guyjimmy5879 Allen Wrench!
@@murdermuseum8280 yeah I know Allen Wrench bought it but I wanna know if kurt was with him at the time of purchase. I also wanna know why a 20 gauge. And if he used buck shot or a slug. There was no blood splatter. If he was already dead there would be little blood. But if he used bird or buck shot there would be no splatter because it wouldn't have made it thru the other side of of his head. And kurt loved guns. He got all his confiscated. So why a 20 gauge to off yourself. In the moment he probably didnt care but I have trouble believing someone would use a 20 gauge for suicide. No matter how in the moment
I think Krist don’t say much, because he love kurt and his world was shattered When he kill himself. I think it left him heartbroken too. He don’t say much because the media just make stories out of it. He didn’t just lose his band mate that day, he lost his friend. It is so sad what happen and Kurt was a good guy. He was just like us and never acted bigger then any one else. Didn’t want all that rich star bullshit. I bet Krist wish he could of done something to save Kurt.
*murdered
@@noshit6285 stfu, he killed himself stop being in denial
Dude, you are soooo naive. I hate it when people can't see through the fakery. First of all: Kurt was not murdered, either by his own hand or someone else's. If I had the time, I would put his genealogy here for everyone to read! Because then, MAYBE, you might be able to catch on to the scam. He's related to everybody that's anybody!! These people don't kill themselves. They ALWAYS fake their deaths in order to make more money, even though they don't need the money!!
@@criskatan okay well you just sound like a conspiracy theorist 😂💀
@@antonyio123 It has nothing to do with theories, but maybe you could call it that. I don't use the words, "conspiracy theory".
As a young kid (about 13) when teen spirit went GLOBAL, I'll never forget Kurt Cobain saying how he felt uncomfortable that the song was being blaied out of people "driving around in BMW's" and it depressed him as this was (obvisly) Not what Nirvana were all about, As a young kid those words resonated massively with me. Kurt Cobain. The ultimate example of just a simple man, that loved to make music & rock, but deeply uncomfortable with the corporate side of the business.
R.I.P Kurt - never forgotten.
Well we didn't have a BMW. Lol.
Thats bull, kurt desperately wanted to be a big star, he has said so in meetings with labels
@@joaovictor3312 like the pixies. I don't see BMW drivers listening to them. Lol
My impression was that Kurt never really knew what he wanted and his interviews appeared to reflect that. Much of the time he said whatever he felt like - quite how much of it was true we’ll never really know. Making music was clearly his antidote to the bullshit of life but Nirvana became too big too quickly and that created it’s own problems for him. I can’t help but wonder how he would have faired if he had met someone stable rather than CL though 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
These 90s Rockstars threw their heroin hissy fits and ruined it for everyone. I'm glad rappers enjoy their success and make the party turns now.
Bleach actually is one of the album's that changed my life, as far as music genre. I was 14, listening to mainstream radio garbage and my cousin bought the cassette. I was completely enthralled with the raw, gritty energy. All my friends HATED it, which made me love it even, more and I still listen to it almost every single day. Opiate addiction is a monster unlike any other addiction I've encountered. You literally become completely dependent on the drug in every aspect of your being. It's honestly a miracle I got clean because it was beyond agonizing.
Good for you Jen! I know more than a few who died or are totally worthless because of the bad drugs. You don't need em!
I used to go out with a girl as a kid and she won a copy of bleach but from the og company subpop of which they're like only 500 in existence. She never liked grunge but would not give me the record anyway..I broke up soon after 😂
In some songs where he screams, you can realize he was insane completely, like he call for suicide...Blackheart, no singer in any hard rock genre is match to Cobain if u ask me, all honor to Ozzy, Halford, Dio etc.
Congratulations on getting out of the clutches of the hard to break habit that held you down and back... I wish you continuing strength as you move forward.
12 years on and I'm still fighting this opiate addiction I have. So I have nothing but praise for you.
Hate to be that dude in the comments giving life advice but man, if you feel yourself on the verge of a "breakdown" get some help, talk to people, realize it's happening and do what you can to stop it. Sometimes we get too caught up in what were feeling to look at what's going on and before we realize it it's too late and we explode..
Then prepare to be sectioned.
@@beingsshepherd
Sometimes that is what it takes if the case is extreme enough, the sooner you talk to someone the better.
@@NothingHumanisAlientoMe Psychiatric Intensive Care Units are literally prisons, in which the incarcerates are treated accordingly.
@@beingsshepherd
How do you suggest we Sheppard wayward beings?
@@NothingHumanisAlientoMe Imo there is no all purpose solution. Mental illness spans a very wide spectrum.
“He should have never done that…”
Yes. Marrying Courtney was a huge mistake.
After 30 years, after ALL the times krist and Dave have repeatedly, repeatedly said it wasnt Courtney, they never even did so much as imply it--after all this damn time, you guys are still locked into you Q-anon type conspiracy theories--it’s so just kinda funny to me at this point--IF it was, don’t u think Dave or krist would’ve cracked and come out with it by now--I mean, seriously, who,would have a better sense of the whole situation than THOSE TWO DUDES??--I don’t know, I guess if ur just stubborn in your theories, and have ZERO clue what the disease of depression is, and how it can ruin a persons mind, I guess you could hold on to your delusions. And, yes, I have seen “soaked in bleach” or whatever it’s called, and as always, docs like that interview these NOBODIES, who barely knew Kurt, or claim they knew him, and they talk about, idiotically about what a happy, happy, happy, happy, funny person he was --it’s just you guys have no clue what it is to be clinically, possibly psychotically deppressed--some of us do. Furthermore, some one as drug addicted and sloppy as Courtney,,there’s just no way in hell, someone with her recklessness, could pull off murdering, literally, the most famous man in the world.....before the worlds eyes,,and everyone in their scene’s eyes....and I don’t know, the obtuse-ness of the conspiracy theorists just boggles my mind
courtney didn't kill Kurt but yes, i agree, no one should marry that... person if we can call her that at this point
Why was it a mistake ? To be fair they were both a couple of smack heads and pretty suited to each other
@@vincentvancraig Instead of focusing on what people say, how about focusing on what the science says. The amount of heroin in kurt was about 300% higher than the highest recorded amount anyone has survived. He would have been unconscious before even getting the needle out. Yet all of the equipment were absolutely cleaned and put pack in the box. Then he would have had to take the shotgun, instead of sitting on the stool that was there, he went on the floor to lay down (like perhaps he was unconscious at that time and faking the stool shooting was impossible) and then shot himself. But the shell had flown to opposite direction of where it should have, even though there was nothing there to ricochet it, except there was another dude who pulled the trigger.
Kurt's case cannot be more clear murder unless there are lots of witnesses with cameras. The dude had divorce papers ready, only missing his signatures, but he would kill himself and leave everything to the woman who he hate?
The "suicide note" has two different writers. Courtney had a paper filled with her training to write as Kurt, she was so in drugs that she left the backpack to her lawyer who found the paper. And that style matches with the suicide note.
There are people who can be brainwashed to think whatever the establishment wants just by declaring something as conspiracy theory. when in fact most of the so called theorists are looking things from the perspective of physics, math, hard sciences and logic. Then media pushes the insane narratives like Qanon and flat earth and the common folk is now brainwashed. It's the oldest for of information warfare and it seems to work with the normies no matter how long it's been used. Realize this, and actually thoroughly look into the evidence before spouting shit, or just ignore the whole topic if you are not interested.
AmericanSpyFox RUclips channel's Nirvana series has all the evidence. It also has the interview of Dr.Cyril Wecht who is the most experienced and most renounced criminal pathologists who already was big enough to be handled the JFK case, and most of the big cases since. He has done 21000 autopsies, supervised 41000 and he says there's no case where someone has taken a ton of heroin and then shot himself. And also the fact about the heroin level. You couldn't have more clear motive on top of that, and there's tons of direct evidence against the person who has all the motive in the world to end Cobain.
Maybe also after realizing that case you should open up and look into the most important "conspiracy theories" as most of them can be 100% proven by physics alone, and there's usually enough other types of evidence too for those without great skills in physics.
@@laura-qh9xp Check my answer to Vincentcancraig, Courtney wasn't the one who shot Cobain up after he was out, both with heroin and shotgun, but she was 100% behind those acts. There is so much proof that when you see it, you cannot believe that it wasn't investigated and Courtney wasn't arrested.
I didn't know much about Nirvana when I saw them at this tiny basement venue in Pennsylvania in 1990 (all of about 50 people showed up.) But in hindsight, I do remember Kurt looking more relaxed and happy than I ever saw him in the years after they hit it big. I think success really messed with his head.
Some people find it difficult to deal with success, especially when it involves stardom -- all the changes and expectations and demands and the constant spotlight. I'm not saying it's what led to his death but I think it made it a lot harder for him to deal with the depression and drugs and everything else he was struggling with.
Where in Pennsylvania did you see Kurt?
@@tigergreg8 At Swarthmore College.
@@RMR1 ohhh you lucky guy, thanks for your post
They should have stayed with SubPop. When they left there, it all went to hell. They were chasing big dreams that didnt matter.
He hated the corporate machine. I still kind of wonder if he was pushed to suicide or he was suicided. Do you see him pushing the cov Vax like the other celebs? They really ramped up using celebs in the 90s like this.
Man, Kurt looks cool with very long hair.
Yup!
It's just hair...
@@TheAktivision hair is awesome
Courtney did it !
ruclips.net/video/in-BUrAmO6g/видео.html
@@TheAktivision Jealous?
Krist was a true friend, and he genuinely cared and loved Kurt. You could just tell they loved each other and it affected everyone differently
Yeah. Sure. He doesn't condemn the stupidity of heroin addiction. He only condemns the suicide.
It is appears to have been an UNHEALTHY relationship -- and that is NOT about love.
@@jnagarya519 krist actually warned kurt a lot about his addiction and tried to get him help on multiple occasions however kurt would have gotten angry with krist if he had mentioned it. Whenever someone deals with an addiction Especially with drugs it’s good to have support and concerns but at the end of the day it’s down to that actual person to help themselves and this is exactly what this situation was like. Krist and kurt knew each other way back from Highschool, I’m sure if they had an unhealthy relationship they would have ended it.
@@hallemontgomery5731 They obviously had an unhealthy relationship -- and you do the same thing: extreme individualist "do your own thing" is "freedom". The fantasy of "there are no limits". Death is one of them; short of that, self-destructiveness.
But when a group of individuals are all about "freedom" without limits, they include the celebration of self-destruction. Because "do your own thing"; "rebel" against reason itself.
@@hallemontgomery5731 The fundamental problem is the excuse-making.
@@jnagarya519 how? make it make sense
Godbless, Kurt Cobain. Thank you, for your timeless music!
Courtney did it !
ruclips.net/video/in-BUrAmO6g/видео.html
Even if you don't like Nirvana you got to thank them for killing the big hair glam rock scene.
Nah, Soundgarden beat Nirvana to it, and was a far better band.
@@willacewallace5905 that's your opinion but I like soundgarden too
@@willacewallace5905 nah man not for most
Big hair glam rock was fizzling out on it's own. The turd Nirvana pushed out just happened to fill the toilet where the big glam hair bands were in before.
Glam rock is the best
U can see that novecelic still hurts and cares alot about him RIP COBAIN
you're so stupid. he hates him because kurt wanted to leave nirvana and that is why he shits on his memory with lies he knew day one his wife had him murdered for his money.
I didn't see that. He only said he should not have done it. That's hardly showing deep care. That's just something to say.
Kurts legacy will last forever. Just enjoy the music.
We often times try to image what they would’ve put out after in utero and how it would’ve altered the path rock music was on after that.
Kurt will live on forever
Enjoy the music because you obviously can't enjoy being a football fan if you're a fan of the Bengals...I'm just kidding. I grew up loving the Bengals. I started following them in 1988 when I was 12 and finally realized somewhere around 2005'ish that they're a lost cause. The hadn't won a single playoff game since their Superbowl appearance in 1989 (still haven't won a PO game as far as I know), and I've never even been to Cincinnati (I'm from Oklahoma), so why TF do I care about this NFL team? lol...Honestly, I just lost interest in the NFL altogether. I'm more of a college football fan (Oklahoma Sooners). At any rate, I understand your pain and frustration, from a former Bengals fan to a current fan.
@@Tom_Van_Zandt
Yea,life is pretty tough being a Bengals fan. I have been a fan of the Bengals my entire life. I started following them in 1989 when Boomer Esiason was their quarterback,Icky Woods and James Brooks was their tailbacks and Tim Mcgee was their best receiver. They had probably the best offensive line in the NFL that season. Guys like Anthony Munoz,Max Montoya and Dave Lapham. They also had a great coach in Sam Wyche, but they just couldn't stop Joe Montana and Jerry Rice on the last 49ers drive of the game. I thought Marvin Lewis did an excellent job drafting and developing players under the ownership that he had in Cincinnati. With Mike Brown being very conservative with money in free agency Marvin Lewis was still able to put solid rosters together that made the playoffs several times but never won a playoff game as well. Their best chance was 2005 when Carson Palmer led that team to a 11-5 record and scored more points than any team in the league that season. It was just bad luck that he blew out his knee against the Steelers in that 2005 playoff game. That 2005 team was the best team the Bengals had since their super bowl appearance in 1989. I think they have a great QB right now in Joe Burrow along with Joe Mixon in the backfield. They just need a better offensive line to protect the quarterback and also open up running lanes for Joe Mixon. They hired a new head coach,(Zac Taylor) who hasn't done a very good job drafting and developing players,so I look for this team to finish last in the AFC North again this season. I just don't think Zac Taylor has the credentials or experience to lead this Bengals team to a playoff appearance or win. They have some pieces to build around,but ownership needs to spend the money and hire an experienced head coach with playoff success. Yes,it's been very tough being a Bengals fan these past few decades!! Lol..
@@DrunkenSlob
Instead of getting another Nirvana record after in utero,we got Foo Fighters! I think Dave is a very talented musician,but the Foo fighters is nowhere close to the band Nirvana was and always will be. Kurt changed rock n Roll as we knew it when Nevermind was released.
Kurt and I are the same age so I vividly remember the day that he died. I was working as a TV production assistant and heard about it during the day. It was obviously devastating. Nirvana is probably the last band I ever got into
goes to show it’s better living a simple life because you get to live longer than living a famous fast life and die quicker.
The photo at 2:30 wasn't one of the last photos of Kurt. That was taken in December 1993
Thank you. A friend of mine committed suicide. Meth had taken over his life. I've grieved his loss for years, wondering if I could have done anything differently to help save him..., from himself.
I just want to thank Mr. Novoselic"s instant remark.... I appreciate his thought and I'm going to keep that one in my heart when I think of my friend.
Don't blame yourself. I used to be an addict, as well. No one can save someone from addiction except for the addict. (Sorry for responding after so long; I just found your comment.) ♥️
Kurt was murdered.
@@waianaesara even if he was murdered which should be considered a possibility him and love were both going down a terrible downward spiral, kurt wanted to die extremely badly and was a mess so his comment still stands
@weed dude AmericanSpyFox will point out KURT WAS NOT SUICIDAL and said people read way too much into his lyrics...
Dave admitted that they were already split up before Kurt died in an interview. They were done. Cobain was supposed to start recording an album with REM. All this info is from various books on the band and Kurt.
What interview was it? The Dave one
he blew off the REM thing before he died.
I partially agree. I would say that they were in a break... until Kurt cleaned up - which may have not happened.
Kurt was supposed to collaborate with Micheal Stipe not REM as a whole. Anyway, by most all accounts Nirvana as a functioning band was dead in the water by February 1994.
@@nananab.9985 Krist Dave Pat and even Kurt's grandparents said it was a suicide the band was intact so was the marriage they took break so Kurt could try to get help but he bailed
Im going through the same thing as COBAIN. Im bipolar type one with a lot of other underlining issues. Im getting sober for the first time. But i refuse give into my addiction. Kurt RIP
Stay strong man and just keep going.. It's a rollercoaster but it always gets better
yo it’s been a month but i hope you’re doing well man
stay strong dude u got this, can we get an update on how ur doing?
10 years battling heroin addiction here. When your deep in it, and I feel like every user gets like this at some point or another, you start to contemplate suicide, because you just can't see a pathway to recovery. I've been in and out of detoxes and sober living and the sort for years now and I always seem to just fall back into it. Its like I have a hole in my soul that only heroin can fill. If you don't use it's hard to explain, but it's a hell of an addiction. When I think about Cobain, and his choice to commit suicide, I don't think he made a stupid choice, I feel like some people just can't escape it and maybe death truly is a better alternative. Again, if you haven't been through it, don't act like you can even begin to comprehend the nightmares and struggles of using. Who am I to judge? Who am I to say? Maybe he made the right choice, who knows.
I wish you all the luck in the world. It can be done, William, I've seen it! Just keep going one day at a time, and keep taking your meds for bipolar.
Krist you are a gentle man and you handled this interview in a gentle way. Thank you for clarifying Kurt's death. Poor guy. May he rest in peace and may the Nirvana crew and Kurt's family eventually find peace over this tragedy.
I saw Kurt three times live. Truly body buzz the whole time at those tiny to large shows. The little dude could harness so much energy
How was the vibe there can you explain more Details?
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In an interview Kurt was saying he'd love to do an acoustic solo album where its just him & his guitar "like Johnny Cash". That wouldve been amazing.
Nah been there, should have done a solo electronica drum machine with distorted vocals. That’s what I’m talking about. Maybe throw a handlebar mustache on just for shits and giggles.
He should've never done that. He should've never married Courtney Love.
Courtney kept him alive longer. Read about it
@@arcticmonkey3 then she kill him
If he had never married Courtney he would have never had his only biological child Frances..
Courtney did it !
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How do you think his daughter would think of this comment?
Dave grohl and the foo fighters are just a pop rock mainstream band... Dave is gifted for sure, Kurt was a gift, few words can define his music or vocal to me, his Aura, angst and pain was other worldly.. Miss you buddy x
Just sad, I remember when I was younger and got so angry that Kurt killed himself, but now, more seasoned; one comes to realize that no one can ever know what someone else is going through...
I'm the biggest cobain fan ever and a recovering heroin addict. I wish Kurt would have got arrested and had to go to jail for a time because that was the only thing that saved me and most people can't get clean,and,healthy until they are forced
In 1991, when i first heard "teen spirit' is was absolutely stunning -- you can't know what it felt like unless you lived through the 80s glam metal days. i had listened to hardcore in the 80s, but nirvana sounded like more like metal, but it wasn't obeying the rules of metal. i remember feeling angry and embarrassed when kurt died, like oh fuck we are going to hear about this from the boomers who are already on our case about everything...the saddest story i heard from krist was when he was talking about pawn shopping. he said that shortly after kurt died, he was looking in a pawn shop window for left-handed guitars, and then he realized that he didn't have to do that anymore. :(
Teen spirit sucks
@@adiemissworld you're pretty cool though.
It literally changed my life
@@jayhooey9961 - Same here, bud.
@@clintkantor I can't stand when anyone says that all new music sucks -- esp. from people of my generation (Gen X, the Nirvana generation) because those people resemble snobby Baby Boomers who have not yet figured out that they are nerds like the rest of us. When people say that, what it really means is that they have no idea how to listen to music and/or where to find it. it is not our job to judge music -- it is our job to listen to the musician, try to figure out what they are saying with it, and then maybe decide if you agree with it or not. my guess is that most Baby Boomers do not have the cultural context to even begin to understand what Nirvana was doing because they lived through the 1980s trying to shut down everything Gen X did with the satanic panic b/s.
That was honesty in its most brutal form, I can’t believe he said, “he shouldn’t have done that”! Deep…
Kurt was truthfully one of the best songwriters of his generation
Not one of. THE best
I agree ! He's kinda the bob Dylan of his generation. He's not as talented as many of others from his generation but a solid fucking song writers. True fucking poet. I would never say he's as talented or capable as Jerry Cantrell, Chris Cornell, Trent Reznor, Billy Corgan and so on. Even his own band mates would say he's a shitty guitar player.
I feel that way towards all the grunge musicians of his time. I feel all of them had a deep and sad voice that needed to scream out.
If one loves neurotic drooling.
Tell that to billy corgan.
I don't know why Kurt's death affects me so much. I find other celeb deaths sad, like JFk Kennedy death or Marilyn's, but Kurt's was different. He was just a beautiful soul. And it makes you think that no matter who someone is, everyone is precious. He was a father, someone's son, best friend etc. His absence has left so much pain.
because he's an Alpha human.
This describes how I feel, I know it’s been a long time and that but I’m still really sad. I think the reason is because although I absolutely love their music, it was him as a person too that makes me love it even more which is why I’m still devastated even though I wasn’t even alive when he was, it feels like he was a friend I needed and someone who you can count on and open up to. Rip Kurt we love you and I know he will come back one way or another, even if it’s not in human formz
@@berrybliss8184 Me too
Quit it.
@@davidrussell9290 what
I like how Krist looks like a CEO now while Dave Grohl looks just like he did 30 years ago except with a beard
except with the beard and 30 extra pounds . . . . !
Krist and Kurt were friends first and having to talk about your close friend killing himself over and over and over again must be so traumatic for him. I just feel bad for Krist. He lost his good friend and all we, the public, want to know is about Cobain's last horrible, twilight days...
Nirvana was great for the time period they were in...they defined a movement and an attitude of a generation, kinda how the bands of the 60’s did at Woodstock. You could feel the pain in the lyrics and music of the early 90’s.
They were popular. It's similar that he and Lennon were murdered whilst managed by Geffen too
Late 80s really.
"He shouldn't have killed himself"
Finally...somebody had the courage to say it.
he didn't kill himself. see Soaked in Bleach. Excellent forensic investigation.
@@theCosmicQueen he did
@@theCosmicQueen Indeed. Anyone watching that film can no longer believe Cobain's death was suicide.
Yeah no if you watch soaked in bleach and do more research you would see it's very suspicious and alot of things don't make sense.
@@wattage2007 People in Seattle were pressuring Kurt to begin juggling on stage. Many people don`t know that he was better than most Japanese jugglers and the fans of this amazing talent of his felt extremely betrayed. This sent him into a downward spiral because you can`t juggle, play guitar, and sing at the same time. He would always juggle while laying down vocal tracks to help himself keep time and on isolated vocals you can hear it. His death was a sad day for circus fans. But many of them had been stalking him and perhaps he would have never bought that shotgun if they would have simply left him alone.
He's not being "brutally honest", the part in which he added that Kurt wasn't in his right mind after the Rome incident because he didn't suceed in killing himself was just standard honest, the "he should never have done that" is based on that, is a predictable detail, even though he always was a suicidal person, it's cristal clear that Krist keeps a lot for himself and that's understandable being literally his personal life, obviosly the fans would love to know the details of the dark situation anyway hah.
Well said, wasted 5:05 of my life intrigued by the title.
@@timmisch6343 That's the damn truth me too, I believed it at 14, but looking back on it now, I believe strongly that Kurt was murdered.
@@chrissimpson6701 yeah Chris Cornell too
@@timmisch6343 and you wasted more by commenting and reading comments. Get over yourself 5 min your life ain’t shit
I’m pretty sure the only person that knows anything and I believe it’s everything would be Courtney love. She’s paid off our threatened people to keep away from that entire subject including interviews . They are only to speak about it if she brings it up.
2:33 - Just to say, that photo with Thor Lindsay is from December 14, 1993 when Nirvana played Salem Armory Auditorium. Look up the gig and you'll see other photos with both Kurt and Thor wearing the same clothes.
I think Dave felt comfortable behind the drum-set and has said in interviews that Kurt’s death scared/inspired him to take on life and actually do a solo project. He said he had a hard time playing music following Kurt’s death. The first song he wrote for the first foo fighters album was a grief stricken Dave letting his heart out about the situation. He said the writing of that song made foo fighters possible. Never told us which song it is, but people have their ideas.
Foos are not a solo project. In fact, the very theme of the movie "STudio 666" is that Dave kills all his bandmates so he can finally have a solo career.
It's also bologna that Kurt's death inspired him to take on life or whatever corny stuff he says. He was already playing writing and singing long before Nirvana. The only thing his death inspired him to do was be a celebrity and sell out.
@@chops4986 nice opinion. First off, it’s baloney. Bologna is a city in Italy. Baloney was termed in the 1930s by then New York Governor Alfred E. Smith. Secondly, Grohl says these things I stated in a 2018 PBS News Hour interview. Look it up. Lastly, selling out means changing who you are in order to achieve financial/celebrity status. What did Grohl change about himself? Can celebrity and success not be achieved without selling out? Foo Fighters stayed in the game long enough to achieve fame and success. Grohl drummed for years as a nobody. If you work hard, you too can become envied by others. Thanks for your reply on a year old comment though. I forgot about this one.
The first foos album, literally every instrument you hear is dave. he wasn't intending to release it, he just wanted to get back into writing/playing.
@@ericab1302 BS of course he intended to release it. And he was writing songs way before foos. He started off playing guitar before even meeting Kurt. He was just a natural and always wanted to be famous and a legend.
Heroin is a DESTROYER. It is soooo unfortunate that talented people like Kurt see no other way out... there is always always a way out. Never give up
He had stomach pain
Kurt and Michael Stipe were supposed to colabrate together. Mr. Stipe even sent him a plane ticket.
@@benwaters4659 I know just image the songs they would have written. I think the material close to what could have been are the covers he did if the meat puppets on unplugged. He may not have been the must technical guitarist but with what he could with what he know he know how to make complex melodies. Just listen to piano versions of his songs.
He dedicates “Everybody Hurts” to Kurt and others who are depressed & thinking about suicide. 😔
I don't think someone sending Kurt a plane ticket would have had much influence on his decision making.
@@shut-up-Beavis I read that Kurt and him became really good friends. They would spend hours over the phone talking about music and books and stuff. Michael Stipe wrote him a letter while he was in rehab that he found one of Kurts moon rings he lost while the band was playing in Georgia in sometime in 93. Someone close to REM gave it to Michael and Michael gave it to one of his close friends who was dying from cancer.
@@69beeker In late 1995 Courtney Love gave Peter Buck from REM one of Kurts jag stand guitars. The band Wrote the song, “ Let Me In” which is on Monster. Good song and nice tribute.
"He never should have done that." Is it weird that I automatically assume he's talking about marrying Courtney?
That’s what did him in
Kurt and Courtney had a co-dependent relationship. She was the enabler and he was the victim. No different to any other co-dependent relationships I am sure we have all seen at some point in our lives. Maybe we ourselves have been stuck in one, or loved ones we have seen as we watch on in horror. It's pretty clear that the victim either gets the hell out of dodge or suffers an horrendous outcome. Throughout the years Courtney Love has tried her hardest to appear reformed and healed, but her highly narcissistic personality type just cannot help itself. It rears up and enters into the fray even many moons after the dust of her former chaos has settled.
@@VelcroKittie Yes, you get it. She targeted a famous wealthy celebrity, as was her pattern, and manipulated an emotionally vulnerable, naïve Cobain into submission and buried him emotionally. he was smart and intuitive enough to realize it but it was too late. He slid quickly into suicidal depression.
Wow man you work so hard on these videos and i honestly love them dude. 🤘🤘🤘
As a Seattle/Olympia Puget Sound kid about the same age as Kurt and well into the indy rock scene back then I can say honestly two things: 1) Drug addiction and getting involved with enablers sucks, and 2) Kurts death probably sold the majority of Nirvana records and elevated them to legendary status. Also, Dave (nicest guy in rock and roll ever) owes a lot of his superstar success to Kurt, although respectfully he doesn't do his songs.
Interesting take re: Nirvana's record sales and their legendary status. I was an AM radio kid, then an FM radio/MTV kid, rock and pop music fan since the age of four, born three years after Kurt. I'm fascinated by all things rock but detested "Teen Spirit" the moment I heard it thirty-two years ago and never warmed to it or much else by Nirvana as the decades progressed. Taste in music though is personal and not a big deal. Interesting to read another's thoughts on Grohl's enduring legacy, Nirvana's tremendous album sales and their legendary status over the decades.
The Cobain murder theorists still think that Krist is lying about Cobain's mental health, because Love is paying/threatening him... At what point will they finally fucking give up? Once Love is dead, are they just going to start blaming Bean??
Perhaps in another alternate universe Kurt is alive, old and writing songs..Nirvana will always be my favorite band.
I was just thinking about this scenario yesterday! Wow. I bet he is!
I saw nirvana in Buenos Aires they never play Teen Spirit.. every time they went to a different song they played the first chords of Smells Like Teen Spirit and then would jump to another song.... they never played it. This is done because the crowd was rude to the back up band called Calamity Jane.. the dummies in the crowd acting all tough and stupid caused this. What a shame. Kurt got mad and said no Teen spirit for you dummies. I'll make you think I'm going to play it but I'm not. LOL it's all good.. still a good show
"who knows, maybe we'd suck.... just look at foo fighters"
I agree
was he saying that foo fighters sucked
LOL ohhhh no.he didn't.
Taken out of context :(
If it's true about Kobain having a chronic pain condition (Crohn's?), I know from experience, that shit (chronic pain) will simply turn you into a different person. Its unbelievably hard. It makes senses to me he would do whatever to make the pain stop. Shit is sad and hella difficult especially to know that an amazing artist died because of their gnawing ailments.
The people closest to Kurt in his last year all seem to say Kurt was suicidal in those days.
Seems the whole Courtney murder theory /conspiracy is not supported by anyone who was really close to Kurt in that last year of his life.
Anything is possible but one must factor in the likelihood of events.
The likelihood for murder is much lower than suicide.
I've watched countless interviews, documentaries ,etc from each side .
Here we have yet another testimony of someone close to him who says it was suicide.
A heart broken best friend who spent his last years and months with him.
Suicide appears to be the unfortunate reality. ⭐
I agree with you, but at the same time i don't... something definitely went wrong... i've watched a video that was on youtube, it was a friend that was documenting his friend's heroin use and abuse, this guy was a 15 year heroin abuser and had collapsed veins everywhere, the inly place he could shoot up was in his grown... the guy shoot's up stand up but bent over with his pants down in order to shoot up, and he couldn't even finish injecting himself before he nodded off (passed out) stand up, bent over... needle was still in his groin... and the worst us that it was half of what kurt had in his blood stream. I just find it very hard to believe he injected himself with that much heroin, put the needle away nicely in his heroin kit and proceeded to pick up a shotgun and pull the trigger! It's not impossible, but raises the question if he did that act! Sorry so long! Cheers
She paid them off, he was going to leave her,called to cut her outta the will. She bc a billionaire. That's motive
@HARD TALK RADIO i get it, youre supposed to support and help your best friend, no matter what. But you cant force a grown man, whos 27 years old, to go to therapy or rehab or whatever. Sure, they could've convinced him to go there, but if he refused, theres nothing they could do.. He probably had lost hope in everything, after 6 times trying therapy. They couldnt control everything he did. At the end of the day, he was a rich person and could get drugs from literally anywhere.
And its sad. If he wasnt so famous hed still be alive
The likelihood that he was murdered is pretty high. Because he had a very high heroin blood level when he died.
I’ve watched and listened to probably 10 or more hours of documentaries and footage. That being said, everyone that was close to him said that he WASNT suicidal. Only Courtney kept pushing that into media. Besides all that he had a 3 times over lethal dose of heroin in his body. He wouldn’t have been able to even sit up with the gun in position. He was either already dead from the heroin or unconscious before someone else put the gun in the position and pulled the trigger to make the scene look like a suicide. It has even been proven that Seattle police botched the whole investigation and looking back on it the former chief admitted that if he were still chief he would reopen the case because he believes there was foul play involved.
I still think he was murdered
The only thing that makes me think it was murder is kurt leaving Francis behind. Could he really leave his daughter alone in this world without a protector. The only thing he still loved was his 2 year old daughter. I couldn't do it to my kids anyway. And if that was the last thing he thought about I feel sorry for him.
he was date raped in Rome by Courtney and she said that he tried to kill himself and he never really recovered from that first blow by his Medusa wife
Yeah, listening to Krist just accepting Courtney's version of things is rough to listen to.
100%
@@yommmrr there are about 100+ suicides per day on average and over 48,000 per year. many of which, are fathers, mothers, grandparents, etc. you never know what people are going through, even if they have kids. kurt has on record said he was suicidal. he was not murdered. he was a very VERY troubled person.
I have a hard time listening to Krist talk about Kurt and just ignoring all the problems and questions surrounding Kurt's death and accepting the narrative. It's sad.
It's weird.
They were best fucking friends since they were kids, thats quite different than "accepting a narrative". Krists angle on this is totally different than anyone else's as he knew Kurt better than probably Kurts own family..actually he surely did. I highly doubt Krist even cares about all the speculation, for him, he lost a brother.
@@WhiteWolf-- Krist and Kurt were not close the last few months of Kurt's life. And evidence shows the rome incident was not a suicide attempt. That was only put out there by Courtney after Kurt died. So he is choosing to go along with Courtney's narrative. It's fairly simple.
Exactly
Kurt cried for mental help when there was staged intervention and wanted psychologist to help him, but they did want to listen to him. He even got phone book and searched for contact when crying because he wanted to be helped. They pointed instead that his problem was drug use, but it was just depression remedy and not the real source of his problems. Krist realised it was wrong after Kurt died and he thought there is no other option to not be suicide as I suppose.
It breaks my heart. For as much as we mourn him as fans, I can't imagine what it was like for his close friends and family. It must have been absolutely devastating. I hope somewhere in him he knew how loved he was and how special he was. As far as what might have been? Whatever happened, it would have been incredible, just like Dave and Krist have done amazing things. Krist said that Kurt painted and wrote. Maybe he'd have done that. It may have actually been better if he had done that instead of the whole rock star thing. He really seemed to be conflicted about being in the spotlight and being a spokesman for a generation. That's a lot of pressure. I always call these guys icons and legends, but maybe that's wrong. It's kind of dehumanizing. He was a good man.
It would have been awesome to see what would’ve come from Kurt and Dave collaborating more on songwriting. There was obvious potential there and it seemed like it may have started going in that direction with songs like Marigold and Kurt’s appreciation for Alone + Easy Target.
Amazing video my friend. Happy Saturday
I have a really hard time believing Kurt actually killed himself after watching Soaked in Bleach. It's the perfect alibi because of how he wrote his lyrics. He loved Frances too much.
Documentaries fool a lot of people.
I would believe kurt commited suicide if they would of found him dead with just the amount of heroin he had in his bloodstream or if they would of just found him with the gun in his hands and a bullet in his brain without the huge amount of heroin in his bloodstream or that they would of found him with the needle still in his arm, but i can not believe he injected that much heroin with diazepam, had his little cigar box heroin kit all neatly put away and then proceeded to take the gun and shot himself in the head... he would of been nodding off as soon as the injection would of took place! Something does not add up...
@@Ludeguy83 blah blah. Repeating garbage. The amount in his blood stream was normal for a huge addict.
@@nickerickson7324 someone could be spiralling down and be suicidal and still get murdered! I don't think any of you know how heroin hits you in a ejection!
@@Ludeguy83 people who don’t know all of the facts and pass judgment are imbeciles. Cyril Wecht even said the gun barrel was too long for Kurt to pull trigger with his thumb, no prints on trigger, the cartridge was found on opposite side of his body so gun fired while pointed at him then turned around, his death grip on the gun was even done improper, Courtney’s notebook of her practicing his handwriting, the fact he was divorcing her and she signed a prenup and would receive nothing in divorce, and I can go on and on. Heroin addicts choose overdosing as suicide method. They don’t blow their heads off after shooting up it feels too good. He had enough money to OD. So I’m with you. I wish people could listen to both sides and agree to disagree instead of dismissing what you’re saying as nonsense when it’s no doubt facts. Have a good day!
PS Courtney had him killed to gain total control of his estate.
Informative piece, my only thought/question is; what was the depth of Kurt's psychiatric disorder at the time of his death? Any input would be greatly appreciated-
RIP Kurt-
None...
That's my input. No "psychiatric disorder". Just a guy surrounded by wolves in the most brutal business in the world.
Your videos are more insightful than most documentaries
My ex always tried to make the point that suicide is the ultimate autonomous decision that one can make and no one can take that right away from them.
While I can understand that viewpoint, suicide solves nothing.
I’d imagine that at least 85-100% of the time someone decides and actually commits suicide I guarantee they’re not in a centered frame of mind.
I guess all I’m trying to say is if you’re suicidal and you feel like you’re ready, try to stop or at least postpone and give some though to the possibility that the power to turn things around is in your hands and there are people who can help you get back on track.
The world is shit, people are shit, but it’s all the beautiful moments in between that make sticking around worth it. Don’t just give up y’all. We’re all in this shit together.
I think people should be allowed to do it if they super sick, or if they tried everything they can to be happy, and after years of trying , they should have that option
Nirvana changed my young life.. I will forever be grateful for that, Kurt died too young, but we all make choices in life, and I will not presume to second guess Kurts.
These two guys were like Frick and Frack and it was really really sweet to watch them together, and to watch their amazing dynamic.
Great video!!!
I remember reading Kurt saying that he was interested in releasing a blues album. What happened to Kurt Cobain was a tragic shame.
In another interview with Kurt Cobain, he mentions that he was interested in rendering an album of the typical guitar sounds, but with a more electronic feel to it. It's just not fair what happened to him; if he took his life or something more sinister, this shouldn't have been a result of death. No matter what, Cobain will always live brightly inside the hearts of so many people. We miss him, but we're not gonna crack.
Jim morrison wanted to before he left us as well
It's scary how much I identify with Kurt and "doing that". I've felt that way my whole life. Some of us are just wired that way. Now I'm middle aged and I still feel that way. I could never do it. I've learned that about myself, but I still want to d*e somedays. It's just a get out of jail free card I keep in my back pocket, and knowing it's there is oddly comforting, and if things ever get unbearable enough I can play that card. But knowing how much it would hurt the people I care about keeps me from ever considering that as an option. I'll just live till I die, In The Fade, like Queens of the Stone Age. RIP Kurt.
awww..You are living with clinical depression, just as Kurt and I and many others have. But I did something about it, because I know exactly how you feel. You might want to, I highly suggest this, get on a mild anti depressant. I would suggest Prozac or Wellbutrin. I have tried them all, and those are two oldies but goodies. "Standbys" I call them. I was on both alternately for about 10 years. I then just got so busy and involved with my modeling and dancing,I am a ballerina, and I just didn't feel the need for the anti depressants any longer. I wish you all the best sweetie and please don't ever waste your precious life! I don't mean to sound pushy or presumptive. Sending you Much love from Paris,Pia Paradis 🎸
My experience has been similar to yours, struggling with depression off and on from my teens up to my 40’s. Like you, I refused to put my loved ones through the horror, so I never acted on those feelings and got what help I could, even checking myself into hospital one particularly grim night. But one thing about living with suicidal thoughts for decades is that you get used to the idea of dying. So, when cancer came for me, I was able to accept the diagnosis and I’m helping my family to deal with it. Still fighting, but it has become apparent over the last few weeks that the fight will end sometime in 2024. I hope to face it with grace, and I look forward to the peace that will follow.
Hope you live well for a long time yet, and go peacefully when your time comes.
I remember being really bothered by all the people romanticizing his suicide - talking about how his success was just too at odds with his creative soul, and rationalizing his taking his own life like some act of artistic purity. I also remember reading a quote years ago, from whom I can't remember, about how much heroin addiction amplifies ones personal demons.
Cool video bro
He said that Kurt shouldn't have done that because he didn't want to flat out say that Kurt was on an inevitable self-destructive path.
42 year old fan here. The biography "Come as You Are" by Michael Azerrad is a good read. I recommend it. There was something special about these grunge-era musicians that will never be re-produced again. Their uniqueness is still unmatched today. When I listen to Nevermind it still gets me today.
the last Freedom Generation...the 70's
Sadly when you’re heavy into opioids or heroin you feel like you’re on a train going 1000mph and there’s no way to get off. You wanna quit but even after the withdrawals there’s a hole in your soul that’s always there.
Nah. Not when your successful. Kurt was divorcing kourtney and he was her meal ticket.
She absolutely had him killed.
@@_RobBanks No doubt about it.
@@_RobBanks "nOt WhEn yOu'Re SuCcEsSfUl" why do you wanna act like a know it all when it's clear that you really don't know what you're talking about? People will respect you more for admitting you lack knowledge on something and abstaining from giving a running commentary on it...
@@LILREMAlNS I have plenty of experience.
And it wasn’t a problem when I had tons of money and access.
I know exactly what I’m talking about.
@@_RobBanks First of all, I'll never take anyone who doesn't know the different between 'your' and 'you're' seriously. Secondly, success doesn't fix the gaping hole in your soul after the heroin is out of the picture, people who are successful and have had an H problem will tell you the same thing.
This is a real friend giving a real opinion about his friend..this was cool
The best show for me is Nirvana live at Reading festival 92 remastered , the way I will always remember Kurt and Nirvana 100% 👍
Agreed. That live set is fire. The band was firing on all cylinders.
Some older kids from my Boy Scout troop took me as a 14 y/o to see Nirvana at the 9:30 Club in DC to catch Nirvana. It was to this day the best show I have ever been apart of. That show changed my life in music, my only concert before that was The Grateful Dead.
Do you have any of the shirts from those shows?
It's sad to say, but if Kurt would have lived then, he would have probably never made it to 50 years old. He would have either died from an overdose later in his 30's, or Cancer would have taken him with all the cigarettes and drug usage. It's crazy to think, I mean, we all would have loved another album or two from Nirvana, and would have welcomed those solo records of his, but he didn't have that Keith Richards longevity in his soul.
I smoked like a chimney, usually around 30 a day, sometimes more for around 20 years, I also loved the old barbiturates which killed so so many friends. I was also an alcoholic for many years. Next I got addicted to heroin, overdosed a few times, got blood infections HepB/C, so understandingly i was close to death many times. Now I've stopped it all, zurvivors do exist, just because someone's struggling doesn't mean they'll succumb to it.
@@OrangeCopperTop too bad he succumbed to suicide
I don't think he would have necessarily died as a result of cigarettes or drug use (unless an overdose but I'm speaking of possible long term effects of drug use that could have killed him later) but practically everyone smoked in the 60s- 90s. Rock stars especially. Not everyone gets or got cancer. My uncle was a heavy smoker smoking 2 packs a day starting at age 12. He also was an alcoholic for over 40 years and used cocaine heavily . He died in his sleep at age 98. My grandfather however never drank, never did drugs or even smoked a cigarette and died unexpectedly of a heart at only age 39. Life is weird that way. Some people I feel are just meant to die young. I could not imagine Kurt as a 50 year old man. Then again I used to think similarly of Marilyn Manson. I couldn't imagine him as a 50 year old and yet I recently saw a video of him celebrating his 50th.
@@winterlynn9012 Of course all of that malarkey is risky behaviour. It would have been cool to see middle aged Kurt and to have followed his career. I think he would have aged like a fine wine.
all speculation...just like this being a suicide or a murder...none of us were there, including Chris...so he cant say Kurt pulled the trigger. Hes not going to question it bc he doesnt want to commit suicide too...
Not convinced Dave would've started Foo Fighters.
Foo fighters basically started while the Kurt was alive, Dave showed some demo songs of foo fighters to Kurt. Dave played drum, bass and guitar alone and was recording some demos while was playing with Nirvana.
I like Scott Weiland's wife's reaction to her husband's death. She was so tired of the outpouring of tributes and respect for him, because in reality he chose drugs, sex and rock'n'roll over a wife and kids. I've been a drug addict and nearly died several times. It's terribly selfish, and Kurt is no exception. Altogether sad.
Well said❤
Seattle native, I remember seeing Krist at a Sky Cries Mary show... he was so tall, towered over the rest of the crowd. Everyone thought SCM was going to be the next big thing (MTV, world tour etc) but I think they deliberately avoided that path. The town of Aberdeen wanted to put up a chainsaw sculpture of Kurt and Krist said that he would personally destroy it if they did 😅. Cool channel, I feel nostalgic for that time period, how living in Seattle we used to go see concerts on a regular basis, the Pain in the Grass shows, OK Hotel, Pioneer Square Theater, the Tchkung! riot at Bumbershoot... and how the philistines on the city council tried to restrict all that with the Teen Dance Ordinance and the flyering ban...
Do you have any of the shirts from these shows?
It would have been really interesting if the Curt and Michael Stipe collaboration ever got off the ground. From the sounds of it, they both really wanted to work together and had to just figure out the timing. I think it was a sign that Cobain wanted to explore a deeper, emotional, and more complexity in his art. They were two very talented artists, with completely different style, but they loved each other's styles. Just speculating, but Curt's lyrics were written poetically, but with little narrative. It was up to the listener to interpret the story on the lyrics and angst in the music. It worked really and he was very good at that. Stipe on the other hand, is a little more deep in telling the story with a more complex back drop. God, that would have been something worth doing. So sad it was close but never happened.
According to Courtney Rome was a suicide... According to Courtney!
Yeah, I can't believe Krist is just going along with that story.
After he died lol. Whatever man it don't add up.
@@wantutosigh1117 I thought that too but he says shouldn't have done "it" maybe meaning whatever lead up to Kurt, well you know. He can't really make allegations can he. My heart hurts the most for Bean, Krist and Dave.
@@wantutosigh1117 because Krist was there he knows its true you are just a internet troll
Whether it was a suicide or not I think she murdered him. She drove him to that. Men, even successful men need support and love from their wife to be ok. I cant say she directly staged a suicide by paying a hitman, but I can say the police were not interested in investigating it as anything else than a suicide. This could just be natural negligence on their part though. Seattle cops are notorious for not asking alot of questions when anyone dies when theres drugs involved. Its like the answers aint worth the work of digging for them. Cops were like that around here too. Theres a dude who burnt up in his truck with his dog allegedly on meth even though and cops just left his car sitting there for years outside in the weather in the same spot and never even investigated it forensically and it upset alot of people that time cause the mother was so outspoken. Unfortunately it was typical for cops to just be like "he did drugs? Eh. Dont worry about it then". Eric Cates and Gypsy the dog were their names if youre interested
If you look down into that darkness there’s not a lot down there looking back at you. I’ve been prone to depression in my life and suffered quite badly as a young man. Be kind to yourself, accept who you, be patient, let time pass and try to look out at the world, not in. There’s no answers down there, trust me.
I recall hearing the news of the passing in my early twenties and feeling like something got stolen from my life very quickly and the feeling being "no don't, don't go..." I mean the music lives on but just at the time something I felt deeply connected to just altered in a way I didn't expect. When I lived on the westcoast I was on a surfing adventure years after and realized that hey I was in Kurt's hometown...that logging town and the memories of my youth resurfaced and thinking "ok Kurt was from this place wow ok." Loved his creative energy, sad to see how he ended up.
Justice for KC and Kristen Pfaff
I’ve always felt kinda bad that i was glad the foo fighters existed...I loved Nirvana but there’s something about Dave grohl’s music that resonated with me as I got older...
I think had he lived we would’ve seen a similar solo album to 12 Bar Blues. Would have been interesting.
Krist had a short lived band. I bought the album. Can’t remember the name but it had a few good tracks. Look it up
You mean Giants in the trees? Remember that he is also in the superband with ex-members of Soundgarden, it's called 3rd Secret. I like Giants in the trees a lot. Greetings
@@thaieloise4703 actually I was talking about Sweet 75. I’ll check out Giants in the Trees tho 👍🏻
I think if they did one more album, they would have moved away from the grunge sound. Kurt said himself they have done what they can with that sound, and song ideas had dried up. Miss you Kurt. Thank you for everything x
Feel so bad for this poor guy we lost a musician but Krist lost a best friend and never not gets asked about it shame on these reporters cudos to Krist for how well he handles these horribly disrespectful questions
I think if Kurt never died, they’d still be together, but they’d just do live appearances occasionally. They would maybe do arena tours once every few years, and headline Glastonbury, download festival, Wacken, Reading every few years (same as bands like Tool, Alice In Chains, NIN and Rammstein) but wouldnt release new music, maybe an EP every now and then. Kurt woulda done a solo album, Dave still would’ve created a project (that would become Foo Fighters I’m sure)
Was working with my High School Buddies, in a Milk Factory ( Now a High Rise Unit Complex ), but, We were all in Shock that Morning, I still Watch Unplugged in New York on DVD Regularly, was 22, 50 this Year?, WE ALL MISS YOU KURT??.
"It is possible to fly without motors, but not without knowledge and skill."
Sorry but what do you mean?
Thats all the honesty Kirst can give without waking up dead.