That's what has to be eating at him,that he never got the chance to talk about it and wash the slate clean. If kurt could have seen through the heroin haze and realize that Krist really loves him.
What a touching story. I had no idea any of this happened. Imagine being a passenger at the airport and you turn around to see Kurt Cobain and Krist Novoselic in a fist fight. So sad that this was the last memory he had of his friend. That's heart breaking.
For real??!! Like that would have been missed or no one recognized either of them??! Don't by in to this shit they're trying to feed us . It's bullshit!
And do you know, how it was, he saw Kurt again?? He,, meet,, his deat Body, his Head was fixed, and a Headscarf upon his overhead and Eyes! Krist hold his Hand once again! After this he was leaving, in his Car, turning on his Radio! All the Time, he felt this cold Hand of Kurt, he said, no matter how often he washt his Hand, this cold was not going.. And in this Moment he turned in his Radio, the Moment after visit Kurts Body, they Played,, BROKE MY BODY, HOLD MY BONES HOLD MY BONES,, from PIXIES! THIS TO STORYS, about Kurt and Krist, are so Heartbreaking soo cruel! Gid bless both of him! 🙏💕
I think Kurt had so many negative vibes and a negative outlook that his road required suicide. When you have an infant daughter and she cannot even keep you alive, it’s over.
@@douglaslang2218 unfortunately you are Truth... There was Something inside him UNHEALABLE.. Deepest Sadness, i dont know, but i think a BIG BIG Lost of Trust, many from his own Childhood,, Anyway God bless him
@@exdemocrat9038 ridiculous.. many addicts don't even use drugs to get high. This is a misconception. Most addicts have mental illness and the drugs are the only thing that will cover it up & make them feel normal.
@@Starseedrisingg Not arrogant, it's the truth. When a person keeps getting high and doesn't clean himself he OBVIOUSLY thinks the habit of getting high is better than everything else in his life. HE KNEW that heroin would cripple him and make him a subhuman yet he kept shooting. Everyone makes choices and we keep moving forward with the choices we make. He knew the dangers of dependency and the hell of withdrawal, yet he CHOSE to start shooting H again. When the options showed up in front of him : a) living in that constant hell for months searching for his fix just to keep getting high a few times a day and b) cutting all that shit out of his life and living a great life with his family and friends with no chemical dependencies. He chose a, and shot himself (or got offed by someone else). So fuck Cobain you know? Good songwriting and singing , but a pretentious fucking junkie.
I think he accepted it and moved on, but it obviously left a big scar in his life.. Just imagine being a total misfit in a forgotten little town and the only thing that makes you happy is to play music with your friend in a basement, and then suddenly you and your band are one of the biggest musical acts in the world forever... That must be one hell of a experience and probably left a deep mark in your mind and soul
@@enriquepastor3626 - you can just see when he has to talk about it - he is still grieving. The happy go lucky clown part of him seems to have died with Kurt
I can’t believe this is the last thing Krist saw of Kurt in the end he was just trying to help him but we miss you kurt thanks for all you’ve done for us
Alcoholics and addicts don’t work that way > you can’t force the issue at all > it seems and is an emergency but it can’t be handled that way at all especially if it’s the first time someone is getting clean - I think Kurt was being used by a lot of people for selfish ends as that’s how the industry works but it was his will to be part of it > Pisces swim both ways ... opposing nature within
This is just such a sad ending for Kurt and Krist long time relationship. I can't believe they were hitting each other in the Airport. That's so crazy and tragic.
Krist is the man. Nothing but respect for the man who continues to carry Kurt's torch. Speaks of him like the person he was not the mythical characture he's been turned into
I don’t know. In that Sirius xm never mind anniversary thing with Jon Stewart I got a lot of laughs from the old krist. It’s still there. He’s just older and mellower
@@cheothegeo2742no man op is right part of krist died when Kurt died. Ya sure you can always have laughs , but krist became heavy since then. Coming from an original nirvana fan since 91
It’s so sad. This is what drugs can do to people and their relationships with others. I hope Krist is able to forgive and find peace knowing that the last time he saw Kurt, that it wasn’t really Kurt.
You can tell Krist hasn't fully grieved yet over his best friend. When he starts talking about how he shouldn't have done that you can here his voice cracking fighting back tears. RIP Kurt Cobain hopefully you found some peace now wherever you are now.
Dave Grohl and Kurt Cobain were very close friends but Krist and Kurt knew each other singe high school. Krist was with Kurt all the way through their band experience up until the end.
It was truly everywhere in the 90s and we weren't wise enough to it. This generation can see firsthand what happens on the internet. Such a hard drug to beat and it sucks you dry of your core personality.
@@maxludlow6629 maybe my experience was unique, but I was well aware of the consequences of heroin use well before the 90s. My mother, with whom I'd had minimal contact with as a small child, came home to live with her parents (who had raised me) when I was 12 & she was trying to kick heroin. My bedroom was next door to the one she was staying in. They had one common wall. I will NEVER forget the sounds that permeated that wall. It was like there was a wild animal trapped in the room next door, wounded & dying, screaming in pain, pounding its skull against the wall, ripping its hair out, clawing at the doors & windows, trying to find a way out, begging to die in a low, gutteral tone that could not possibly be coming from a human being. She LITERALLY ceased to be a human for a while there. It understandably made a huge impression on me. Traumatized? Oh yeah, for sure, but the whole ugly experienced kept me from EVER even wanting to try heroin. I remember thinking to myself as I l lay awake listening to her suffering in the next room, unable to sleep with all that going on, "There is NOTHING that could make me feel so good that I would be willing to feel THAT bad. Nothing." Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, probably not most people's typical experience growing up. Hey, but I also remember watching Starsky & Hutch when I was a kid, & there was one episode where Starsky got all strung out on heroin working undercover to infiltrate some drug kingpin's ranks, & it showed a fairly accurate depiction of heroin withdrawals, albeit tamed down for primetime television. I'm sure there were other depictions of heroin addicts in movies & on TV back then. Maybe you had decent parents who didn't let you watch that kind of stuff. People been knowing what heroin is like for centuries now. Wasn't there substance abuse in his family too? He may not have known the full extent, but he wasn't clueless or niaive about what he was getting into when he started using. There were people around him that walked that path before him. I'm pretty sure that Andrew Wood had already died of a heroin overdose before Kurt had his first taste, not that the two bands fraternized, but I'm sure their circles overlapped somewhat. He knew.
27 year later and his death is still being talked about, he is such a legend, I miss him so much, I hate the fact that I wasnt born when nirvana did shows
I do feel sorry for kids today that didn't get to experience this amazing band, and many others of the time period. No cell phones, people actually hung out and had conversations. Amazing music! It was a great time.
Yeah, nostalgia is good. Living in the past sucks. I tend to find people who have interesting or fulfilling lives don't spend their social time playing the "Remember when" game. I hear what you are saying. But there are a lot of bands that were just as good as Nirvana, still plying their trade today. I saw Soundgarden absolutely implode on the the same stage that 3 hours before heralded The Prodigy's explosion into the mainstream..... the EXACT SAME FESTIVAL!!! And I can tell you, we don't bang on about how we saw the mediocre and absolute travesty of a "giant" from that "Seattle Scene"... My point is this, there are new Nirvanas playing all the time. You won't find them on MTV or HOT97 (or whatever the yanks watch/listen to for the latest sounds). Don't get me wrong, it would of have been nice if I could of saw Nirvana. But I was under-age for the only gig I could have gone too. And the gigs/bands I have seen were just as passionate, and even better, than Nirvana. They were just unfortunate/lucky not to have a sycophantic cult build an image that in truthfulness probably isn't fully warranted. Put it another way, would people still be worshipping Kurt if he didn't blow his brains out? Hell, even the Rolling Stones are past their used by date, and surviving on the memories of rose-tinted glasses of a Boomer generation who are at their legal retirement age. I don't feel sorry for people who never got to see that amazing band. I feel sorry for the people who's lives are defined by seeing it ;)
Long time ago dude (interestingly its been the same amount of years since his death as he was alive on this earth) , I missed the only show he had at my home town as they cancelled
@@RogueBoyScout - which explains why Shannon Hoon’s death has made his band so beloved. Oh wait - it didn’t because they don’t have Nirvana (Kurt’s song catalog). Kurt’s catalog is the Rodgers&Hammerstein of rawk. Rivaled only by the Beatles. The suicide may bring people to the source - but the songs are what sustain the fandom.
Krist Novoselic. The great partner and the only true friend of Kurt's life. And one of the few who always tried to save him until the last moment. And a unique bassist. Respect.
I was 13 when Kurt died, and as difficult as it was to accept that it happened, I would go on to lose many of my friends and family to drugs and suicide over the years; being a recovering drug addict myself, I am lucky that I made it out alive.
Same exact story as you, except I was 10 not 13. I lost friends to drugs and suicide over the years too, and I'm a recovering heroin addict myself. I can understand this happening... Kurt was not himself at the time. Was probably in withdrawals and/or fearing the withdrawals and acting out of sheer panic/desperation.
So Dylan, made a favor to his suicidal and heroin addicted friend (I guess he was aware of the Rome incident) and bought him a shotgun? What a nice guy! Super friend
@Nate Stephens Good one. I've read many of your comments, and I agree with you. Hope CL pays for what she did in this life but she better pack for the heat in the next.
@Nate Stephens True Psych Ward is unbelievable, Dr B knows her stuff, everything about CLs crimes, relationship with Frances, Kurt, the entire Isiah Silva case, court documents etc. You'll like it mate. Cheers.
Might've been why Krist seems so sad now, he probably felt immense guilt when founding out Kurt was dead, it's like arguing with your brother and then he dies a few days later, I'm sure that Kurt wasn't angry with Krist anymore, I'm sure he wasn't annoyed with him in his last days.
I never heard that story of Krist’s last memory with Kurt. That must be really hard for Krist that his last memory with Kurt was him punching him in the face and running away after having to fight him and while he unsuccessfully tried to get Kurt to Los Angeles for rehab is heartbreaking. What makes this more heartbreaking is that Kurt was like a like a little brother to Krist and he had that for a final memory with his longtime best friend
True, but I don't think it was the music industry that was the reason he killed himself. That was just an excuse Kurt put in his suicide note. The true reason he killed himself is because he was addicted to heroin and knew he didn't have the willpower to beat it. Interestingly he doesn't mention heroin or his addiction at all in the suicide note, suggesting his inability to beat heroin was more shameful to admit than his loss of passion for music (a side effect of opiate addiction). Touring also made it hard to acquire heroin, a further reason he attributed blame to music. The intervention made him realise that nobody around him was going to tolerate his problem anymore, and when it came to the crunch he would rather die by his own hand than lose his band and family, and be a very public fuck-up. At least by suicide he could be romanticised as a young dead rockstar, and avoid experiencing the inevitable public humiliation, rather than become a lonely, washed up old man that chose heroin over everyone that cared about him. He knew his life was about to fall apart publicly due to his heroin addiction, knew he couldn't beat heroin, and chose death instead. "It's better to burn out than to fade away"
@@SidCurtin-yi7fl Wow. That totally makes sense. Kurt was a silently prideful man, and would've hated to be humiliated. I'm sure the intervention humiliated him to his core.
@@thethirdtomas3 i've been on drugs and got out of it, Kurt was only 27 years old and a millionaire, he had not even had the time to really be a real drug addict by that age, and if so he might of prob been able to realize the prob and do something to stop the habit by maybe 30 years old, so what was the point of trying to tell him not to do drugs when everyone around him, "except his band members", was on drugs?? And who started this whole thing on, he had to quit drugs? I think there is more to the story then just trying to get kurt off drugs, shit makes no sense at all.
If that really happened at an airport, how come no one on earth ever talked about being a witness to seeing the biggest band on the planet at that time going to blows in an airport terminal? Not saying it didn't happen because i wasn't there, but does seem kinda iffy.
Right, I was 25 when kurt passed away, and I definitely don't view him as this god like mythic figure, I actually met kurt, krist and Chad in 1989 in my hometown of Cincinnati when they played at murphys pub when i was a student at UC. I see him as a super talented musician who died too soon. But to my kids, they find it hard to believe that he really existed. My oldest was 3 when he passes and my youngest was born in ' '96. Its crazy how generations view famous people who have passed away.
As a former heroin addict myself, I can understand this happening. Kurt was not himself at the time. Was probably in withdrawals and/or fearing the withdrawals and acting out of sheer panic/desperation. Kurt already had anxiety issues and heroin withdrawals amplifies existing mental health issues like that exponentially. I also have anxiety and I can say the heroin withdrawals I went through were the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.
@@tomcarl8021 Brah, I'm just posting my personal experience. It doesn't make sense to say you could have known I was a former heroin addict before I posted it
Krist is a big man with even bigger heart.This is that Croatian side in his upbringing. Definitely Kurt's best friend, and it's very sad that he couldn't help him in the end. Much closer to Kurt than everyone around him, everyone took advantage of Kurt. His talent, fame and money. Even other members of the band. Everyone used him except Krist . 'Courtney Love Kurt's Money' - that's graffiti in Zagreb, the capital of Croatia where Krist was in '93. in an alternative club where I was a DJ, and he came to get a little away from the fans in my DJ booth. And he stayed with me until the end. He was very modest and funny. We drank bad beer, he really liked the kind of music I played and he insisted that we speak in Croatian - which was hilarious to me. Great guy!
Krist was right when he said Kurt literally could’ve done almost anything with his life. Even if he got a divorce he still would’ve had enough to live 5 lifetimes over on royalties. Seems like his drug use altered his mind completely.
Kurt's drug use was all that did matter during the last few months of his life. I am no expert and never met Kurt, but I know severe heroin intimately. Comparitively speaking, the only difference between Kurt's addiction and every other heroin addict is, simply, he did not have beg money to support it.
@@Daneiladams555 I wouldn’t say murdered probably like Cali went and got him high , too high. He died , he didn’t tell anyone made it look like a suicide. Boom. Everyone’s happy and gets the shares of his money.
This has to be the worst last goodbye in history… what a huge trauma for Krist, I’m so sorry for him. He’s the last guy in the world that deserved this 😢
WoW, I've never heard that story, I knew Krist was pretty angry about the very end. Who wouldn't considering how close they were. Shit they went to High School together. Their relationship was so deep. It's just makes me cry knowing what actually happened the last time they saw each other. I'm sure Krist thinks about that every single day. That's tragic...smh
@Kath Octogon Did they go to the same High School? Someone told me that years ago. That's just such a brutal way for your last experience with someone who you love so much.
There's more to this story. When Kurt went missing from rehab, Krist went looking for him and couldn't find him. After, Kurt was found, MTV stuck a camera in his face. The raw devastation was heartbreaking to watch. The tabloids released pictures with Kurt and the band with guns. It was very sad and tragic.
@@annaiorio4543 I was only 11 when Kurt passed away, but it's always stayed with me. Once I srarted putting time into researching about his death, it just for me, never made sense that this was a suicide at all. Yes regarding Krist, I can't begin to imagine how he coped.
I wasn't even alive when Nirvana started or ended and yet I feel upset everytime i listen to Nirvana because i struggle with the idea that Kurt Cobain is dead. I would do anything to meet him or go to one of his concerts.
The more you look into Kurt’s behavior in the days leading up to the suicide, the more you realize it was a suicide and not some Courtney Love conspiracy.
Courtney's behaviour and the people in that house around the time Kurt was dead there was odd as well at the time... I think there's more than we've been told.
@@minecrafterman2334 when u wait 2 hours to call for help in Rome and then before shoot him up with more CNS depressing drug recipe if that's saving him I hope nobody gets saved like that. She's like many money hungery hos, will spread for bread. She knew he was dead and where. She was heard telling Dylan to CHECK GREEN HOUSE by Rosemary Carroll. He didn't so she called Veca and told them to start on greenhouse Friday morning. Yes she didn't pull trigger but she knew where he was and he was gone. That's not a loving wife. Where was she during their anniversary? With Billy window shopping. Why was the pages of Kristen's diary she wrote in daily and backed up by cassette ripped out the week of his death but no other time is gone? Why did she give Det Terry's widow a chunk of change when he died investigating where the dope Kurt had came from? Why give a COD on live TV 2 hours after seeing the body when No tests was done let alone results back? Why sign Death Certificate a week later and no results was done including gun prints? They let Kurt be cremated in a week. That whole investigation was shit.
Damn, that's sad. I never knew that. I had a vaguely similar experience with a very good friend and it's been bothering me a lot, lately. Wishing I could have done something different to make it turn out differently, and maybe he'd have been able to stick around if I did. He'd be dead by now, I'm pretty sure, but he could have died out here with us instead of leaving.
Heavier than heaven might as well be the gospel according to Courtney Love. In every interview of Krist I've seen he never directly talks about it, like he never even mentions killed himself just that he shouldn't have done that, almost like he still hasn't processed and accepted what happened or something else went down that led to Kurt being killed, but he's bound by the non disclosure agreement with Courtney Love
That really hurts my heart. I can’t believe that in all the years since it happened, I’ve NEVER heard this story before. It’s no wonder Krist has always seemed so wounded since Kurt’s death. That’s my quota of sadness for the week. Gonna go curl up in a corner now. 😖
The dude who wrote that book of which this information comes from got all of his info from Courtney love. Last I heard, last time Kurt and Krist interacted was on the phone.
He does make a great point that Kurt could have almost literally done anything he wanted. So many like myself wish they had even a whiff at financial freedom like that. No matter, it's so sad this dude's rock bottom was what it was. This story only reminds me of so many other drug related fights. He was clearly not ready to get clean but needed it in a bad way.
I recall reading that part of the book and feeling like I've been kicked in the stomach while lying on the floor. It's so sad for Krist to have that as the last memory of his friend.
I know...a knock down, drag out at the airport? Kurt running screaming " f**k you!" at any paranoid airport...Where was SECURITY? And no one with a cell phone caught video of this spectacle whether they knew of Kurt Cobain or not??? Sounds like a whopper to me! Who is the source of this story? With all due respect, where did you find this tid bit, channel? Why would Krist lie about this? What's going on here?
@@joleneloveland2942 the source is a book by Charles Cross who was a Nirvana biographer, it is called Heavier than heaven. Imho, this is really paranoic. If Kurt didn't want to fly to LA so much he would never sit into the car. It doesn't make any sense to sit into a car and then open the door and try to get out while the car is moving. If it's true then Kurt really was in a terrible condition but he would not wait several days to die then. I don't believe he killed himself.
I think everyone forgets social media and the internet was not a huge thing. Unless it was MTV or One of the rock magazines you didn't hear much. Yea his death was big but rock stars fighting... tad common honestly
“Heartbreaking” doesn’t even begin to describe the emotional gravity of such a tragic event. I truly feel for Krist. That had to be absolutely awful. He did his best to be the best friend he knew how to be and got physically attacked and probably scarred for life in some sense after Kurt died.
When I was younger, I used to be in on the Courtney had Kurt killed camp. The older I get and the more I learn the more It seems pretty obvious that the guy was in a lot of physical and mental pain and killed himself.
If I was Krist I would know I did EVERYTHING possible to save my friend and band mate. I’ve lost many friends to drugs and the only ones I regret are the ones I didn’t do anything to save. Ultimately you can’t save someone from themselves.
Wow I did not know this happened between them. That is so sad. Id always thought the jack in the box thing where kurt went to have Krist unknowingly to his dealer.
Krist never actually told these stories, i can't find any of it somewhere's, it's all 2nd hand stories... why would kurt use krist to drive him places, kurt was a millionaire, he could of just took a cab or a limo anywhere's he went if he didn't want anyone to know he was buying drugs... i've had friends like that, but they were broke and needed a drive to score... definitely not millionaires 🤣🤣
Krist never actually told these stories, i can't find any of it somewhere's, it's all 2nd hand stories... why would kurt use krist to drive him places, kurt was a millionaire, he could of just took a cab or a limo anywhere's he went if he didn't want anyone to know he was buying drugs... i've had friends like that, but they were broke and needed a drive to score... definitely not millionaires 🤣🤣
Damn, that hurt hearing that. After Kurt died, I never read or watched anything about Nirvana or Kurt, I Just blocked it all out. Only now after all these years am I starting to hear stories like this. Miss you heaps Kurt, If it wasn't for Nirvana's music I reckon I wouldn't be here right now...
Krist might have felt he wouldn't ever see Kurt again, but it wasnt because of their fight they had because Kurt didnt want to go to rehab or what might happen if he didn't. I imagine Kurt was still smarting because his good friend Krist participated in a bogus intervention by CL when she was probably more addicted at the time than Kurt.. i imagine Kurt saw it as a betrayal. So he went to rehab fully knowing that he probably would not stay. In his mind i think he was finished with everyone who participated in the intervention. When you quit a substance you have to be ready to do it and to do it for no one but yourself or it will not happen. Im sure he felt betrayed by his closest people falling into CL's hypocritical agenda. When he leff rehab he clearly had a plan as he purchased 2 air fares for a future date out of Seattle. I think he had plan and was planning a new start in his life. I think that's what Krist was picking up on. Kurt envisioned a new start that did not include him. It was strange behavior on Krist's part seeing how he and Shelley wouldnt even attend his wedding because they did not approve of CL. But then he aligns himself with her on a bogus CL intervention. Would you not see that as a betrayal?
interesting, but i think that it s more simple than that. Kurt did not want to stop drugs like most junkies. His intelect was very altered by heroin. If you add that he was fed up for a lot of reasons ( personal life, health problems, celebrity etc). i suppose that he choose to die to live the imortality. the 27's club. Drugs and his near death expérience in Rome helped a lot.
When your addicted to ANYTHING, YOU ALONE have to want to quit and move in the right direction, NO ONE can tell you to stop and most of the people telling Kurt to stop where hypocrites as they were just as addicted as him, especially his lovely wife...😏
Yes, and their intelect was very altered by drugs, that's why they all made bad choices and it led to this sad end: Carlson may never bought that gun, Courtney should came back earlier from L.A, etc....
@@jebstuart4004 and maybe mark Lanegan woulda answered Kurt’s phone call that fateful day but instead Lanegan was high on heroin. Heroin robbed The whole Seattle scene.
Regarding the airport fight, I suspect Cobain wouldn't have had any animosity towards Novoselic in the long run. Cobain was in full blown self destructive crisis mode. Krist tried his best at the time and was a good friend who didn't bail when things got rough.
@Generic Name Fuck man, it honestly makes me feel so sad thinking about how much better things could of been... The whole Nirvana left, still has not been filled by any other band since.
This is heartbreaking and as a teenager (back then) who loved nirvana and the social change they(Kurt) helped lead. Felt like the death of optimism Even today I am choked up thinking about when I walked into home room and saw the news on channel 1 tha he was gone. Fk man what a loss. Art is a tue separating factor from the animals and she primal impulse takes us to this level feels like a de-evolution and (as Kurt was famous for) a complete contradiction of everything preceding it.
Imagine if there were smart phones during Kurts days. Him and Krist rolling around on the airport floor beating the hell out of each other would be all over the internet.
My brother died in a very similar way, but he didn't shot himself. Anyhow, I feel sorry for Krist in many levels. I can relate with the guilt he probably carry for himself.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck...Krist...didn't know THAT story at all!....I know from experience watching a loved one sink to the bottom....the helplessness is OVERWHELMING. Wrestling with Kurt in the airport....never ran across that story in all I've read & heard about Nirvana. You're missed Kurt...RIP.
Wish Kurt didn’t take the cowards way out. Krist was right when he said he could’ve done anything. I’ve been a believer in the conspiracy theories but it’s kinda hard to trust any of that after hearing what his best friend had to do. Rip Kurt anyway.
Do you think the airport fight happened with nobody noticing it? Kurt running and cursing and Security never even noticed as paranoid as airports are now. Really?? Sounds like a total fish story to me.
@@Ludeguy83 who knows kurts been dead longer than he was alive for. Whatever happened it’s too late to really get to the bottom. Unless Courtney confesses on her deathbed, we’ll probably just believe the “story”.
Des,they were a duo, like a Comic duo-Asterix and Obelix, Kurt with his Magic Powerdrink! I still love them !-watch their live Show / 17th April 1991, Nirvana Still !
What was the fight about though? Obviously there was a disagreement. Kurt was doing fantastic up until a key event a month before his death, he caught Courtney cheating on him. According to Courtney Kurt was so hurt he roofied himself and almost died......imagine how Kurt must have felt? He had no drugs in his system when he overdosed in March 93' so he got back on drugs after that. We really have to understand how traumatized Kurt was by divorce as a young child and he wrote about how he would fight to his death to protect Francess from divorce, then he finds himself in his worst nightmare. He caught his wife cheating and told her it was over and getting a divorce, she roofied him and tried to kill him that night. He wakes up from the coma and has to know he was drugged, at this point he must have gotten pretty scared. I think he got back on drugs to cope with the stress of the situation then Courtney used that to say she will take custody of Francess since he was on drugs, that's when Kurt burned the bridges with everyone. Why do people have to hear this from me? I might have actually believed Kurt killed himself they spun this narrative becaus there is logic in it. The thing is, this narrative doesn't exist. Not one person other than Courtney has said anything about cheating or divorce. I'll pretend to be Krist: Why do I think Kurt killed himself? He was doing so well then relapsed on drugs when he caught his wife cheating, he couldn't handle divorce or the thought of loosing Francess and took the easy way out". Now, doesn't that sound a lot better than Krist's reddit response? "Finally, one of the reasons I am convinced Kurt killed himself is that he purchased a .20 shotgun. Kurt was not interested in hunting birds or squirrels, he bought that firearm as a suicide device. Suicide is not rational." Seriously Krist? Kurt had lots of guns, the police confiscated them in a bogus claim by Courtney saying Kurt was locked in his closet with his guns and was suicidal, which she admitted was a false claim but they still took his gun. Google Kurt Cobain and gun, lots of pictures of Kurt with guns, pretty sure they were for home protection and not hunting .....Krist should know that. Even Dillion said Kurt was worried about intruders and it was for home protection. Kurt got roofied and almost died, of course he is going to protect himself. Kurt broke up Nirvana, lowered their cuts of the profits, and said he preferred jamming with Hole rather than his own band. If I were Krist my feeling would be hurt to hear that and I would be kinda pissed at Kurt, especially after he got back on drugs after getting sober. He may have burned his bridges with Kurt right before he died and I know Krist loved Kurt so that would be absolutely traumatic for him. I can see why he won't research Kurt's death, could you imagine the trauma of believing your best friend killed himself for decades only to learn he was murdered and he wasn't there for him when he needed him the most? He probably wants to stay in the reality where Kurt was an asshole bent on suicide and there was nothing anyone could have done to help.......but there was. Kurt needed a real friend, if Kurt didn't open up to Krist about the cheating and divorce then that tells me all I need to know......Kurt didn't trust Krist enough to confide in. If Krist does know those details and just keeping quiet that tells me a lot also. I want to talk to Krist, I want to explain about the cheating and divorce and I want to know his honest feelings on Kurt breaking up the band and lowering his cut. Krist might not know about the cheating or divorce, imagine what he would think to learn of why Kurt was so messed up near the end? It would make a lot more sense to him and maybe he can help get Kurt justice. I would love to see the day Krist and Francess get into the evidence of murder and sincerely try to get Justice for Kurt because they would make a huge difference.
@cross hatch2 Thanks I never seen that Iggy video. I completely agree and there are many x factors that get really dangerous for Kurt. First of all his goal was to sabotage and destroy the mainstream music industry from the inside, he wrote about his goals in his journals and also said pages and whole journals would go missing in hospitals, hotels, planes, and someone may have been gathering Intel on his personal thoughts and aware of his plans, he would make a lot of enemies. I don't think he was on Krist or Dave's good side at all, Kurt said they were very passive aggressive but sounds like things got really ugly near the end. He dropped the lollapalooza tour which would have cost a lot of people millions of potential profit, I would imagine he was under contract as well. Kurt was done with Nirvana and I would assume major labels as well, if he went solo the party would have been over for a lot of people. Then there is Courtney's Epstein connection and Courtney's fortune she can inherited from her Bohemian Grove member grandpa. I suspect Billy Corgan was who Courtney cheated on Kurt with, but what if it was actually related to her Epstein connection and sex trafficking? That could be veeeeeey dangerous if Kurt found out. Kurt was worth more dead than alive to everyone in his life, sadly even Krist and Dave. Actually, who did Courtney sell some Nirvana right to again? I'm gonna look that up, that is weird how there is a person or group out there still profiting off of Kurt that is not related to his family, I wonder if there are any connections with the record companies Kurt worked for? Edit: Mestel owns 25% of Kurt's share of Nirvana, a company that buys up rights to music, and the owner was the executive producer of Montage of Heck. Just wild speculation, but if someone in the industry wanted to profit off of Kurt after he died it would be through something like Mestel so there might be a lead there, it's always good to follow the money trail.
@cross hatch2 They seem sooooo awkward and lost without Kurt. Dave went from shy and introverted, to an extroverted drunken party animal. Dave comes off very insincere to me in every interview, like he only says what people expect to hear. It is interesting to think Dave already had most of the foo fighters songs written by that point. Kurt talked about them going in other musical directions, Kurt asked Dave if he could change the lyrics of his songs for Nirvana songs, I can only assume Dave declined. Courtney said in that recent post that Dave doesn't deserve any money since he was kicked out of the band, first I ever heard of that but it would make sense. Kurt called Dave's riff for scentless apprentice boneheaded at first and I read a story where Dave got offended that Kurt was kinda making fun of him on a plane, and Dave said he was always worried about getting replaced since Nirvana went through so many drummers. There were rumors Kurt lowered the rest of the bands split since he was the only one contributing to songwriting, I think that would be in response to Dave not allowing Kurt to use his future foo fighters songs as Nirvana songs, the logic makes sense. It's possible Dave got kicked out if the band but it wasn't official, then after Kurt died he was technically still in the band and got song rights, he took Kurt's place in the spotlight, came out of his she'll, and became the rockstar he probably felt Kurt should have been, soaking in the fame and loving the attention. Dave profited and benefited off of Kurt's death so much so that it should be impossible not to feel some level of guilt. I don't think Foo Fighters would have been nearly as successful had Kurt lived, Dave would always have been in Kurt's shadow. Now he is promoting vaccines and played dictator Biden's inauguration..........oh my how Dave has fallen from his punk rock roots and joined the system that Kurt was trying to destroy.
I think Krist is sad because Kurt left him lonely and he was at first mad that Kurt could be "selfish" to leave him on earth alone, I feel like they were soulmates. Not romantically but a soulmate is a person with whom one has a feeling of deep or natural affinity. This may involve similarity, love, romance, platonic relationships, comfort, intimacy, spirituality, compatibility and trust. And the fact that Kurt could do such a thing without thinking how this will affect Krist made Krist depressed and changed him forever because he doesn't have his other half with him. Saying I'm sorry for his loss means nothing it's just a reminder ik how it feels and he just likes to talk about the good times with Kurt because reminiscing on fond memories is a lot healthier than talking about his death and the impact it had
I mean, Krist would manhandle Kurt if they got in a real fight, I love Kurt as much as the next person but Krist would destroy him, it's literally like a heavy weight fighting a fly weight.
I've been thinking a lot about Kurt Cobain's death lately, mainly how Krist Novoselic must have felt, terribly bad obviously, but Kurt was his best friend, so has he ever gotten over it? It's been 28 years and Krist always remembers him but he still has a hard time talking about his friend's death 😥. Kisses to heaven Kurt.
It makes sense on why Kurt was like that.When someone’s body and brain are dependent on drugs it’s like they think they need it or they will die.For a heroin addict being denied drugs is like a sober person being denied food or water.When we don’t eat or drink water we get dehydrated and hungry.For a heroin addict if they don’t get the drug into there system they go into withdawl.Still it’s sad that Kurt and Krist’s last interaction ended this way.
Dave was in Virginia in his family right after they came back from europe. Krist was near Seattle but Courtney always tried to put him away. She prefered what steve Albini called "the biggest shity people i have ever seen" for Kurt....fake people, drug users, people who think like her. She was afraid about real kurt's friends because she knew they hate her !
@@loungeact8612 Yeah, and tensions were high since 3 months. During the european tour, Krist ans Dave were together and on the other side Kurt and Pat...That s sad cause i don' t think that Pat or other relatives (for me they are not really friends) were the best people who can really help Kurt. I m sure that Krist could have.....
You are referring to Dylan Carlson? He's super shady as well. You should join the "Kurt Cobain was murdered" group on Facebook. There's quite a few of them that go very deep into Kurts murder.
‘Heavier Than Heaven’ is pretty much a PR piece for Courtney Love. I’m not saying this story didn’t take place, but Charles Cross’ is the only account I have ever seen of it. Since so many stories in Cross’ inexcusably terrible “biography” are made-up or embellished for the author’s or Courtney Love’s “artistic” or legal reasons, I can’t be certain that isn’t the case with this anecdote, too.
I have read Heavier than Heaven but I don't recall this story. Man this is a horribly sad story. Krist and Kurt were such a huge part of each other's lives. =( Kurt's 'best friends', Dylan bought him to gun he used to kill himself and Lanegan basically was Kurt's enabler for their mutual heroin use and free dope (something he basically freely admits in his book). In reality Krist was the only real friend Kurt had.
I'll never ever forget where I was when Kurt died. Krist and Kurt had a brotherhood that was solid so I can relate how Kurt's death affected him. I'm at the age where family and friends died of either cancer, overdose, or suicide. I know a lot of people don't believe he killed himself or he was driven to give the world the big FU but that's something that will be answered for eventually. Krist didn't think he was murdered but I don't think he approved of his marriage to Courtney. You can just see the tension between the band, Kurt's family, and the audience who booed CL at the RNRHOF. I think they are just giving her enough rope to hang herself. Just speculating. Where were you all when you heard the news? I was at a friend's house. For two or three months straight I listened to my tape that had Incesticide on Side A and In Utero on Side B. My fave Nirvana songs are "Scentless Apprentice" and "Aneurysm". So after about an hour visiting my friend, her son said, "Hey man, I just heard on the radio that the lead singer of some band killed himself. I asked him to find out who it was. I just wept like a baby. Her son and his friends laughed at me for crying so much but they we're barely teenagers who preferred Tupac and Eminem. Not knocking them but I guess I was in shock and I'm a sensitive dork anyway. When I saw "Montage of Heck", I loved seeing all the archives except for one thing: When Kurt was holding Frances and nodding out. I felt that it exposed him for being dependent on heroin. That shouldn't have been shown in my opinion. You can tell if someone is a good parent or not and he was. Most addicts are ashamed and don't want to be found out. Anytime you are addicted to anything and don't get treatment it will never end well. I used to take oxy, buy a bit of crack now and then and when I asked myself, "Why did I waste my money (never had to pay for oxy) on this?" That's when I knew I had to quit. I relapsed on meth but my boyfriend gave me an ultimatum and I didn't want to lose him. I do smoke weed and THC oil for fibromyalgia, but I think marijuana can be a gateway back from all the harder drugs to combat the cravings. I guess it depends on the addictive personality thing. I can take it or leave it but when I had a colectomy with a foot long scar on my stomach followed by a heart attack, I knew had to get my act together. I admire Krist Novoselic for being honest about Kurt's last days. I admire the band for singlehandedly wiping out the pop hair metal bands just by going back to the basics in such a melodic way. Ok, I'm done lol. It's been a long time I shared some of my opinions. I just wish I didn't have to read all the "Courtney killed Kurt" comments 99% of the time. What goes around comes around even if it's nearly 30 years later. If he doesn't have to answer for his death, someone will have to even if they take it to their grave. ✌️
Krist seems like the nicest funniest guy .What a sad memory ) .He has heart ,and true love for Kurt. I know they have concluded it was a suicide but some of the bizarre facts of this case just dont add up. To me - Kurt was too deep, had soul and loved his daughter so much and wanted to live ...just not the way he was living. If I had been hanging around that crowd I would asked Kurt what HE wanted to do next ,before I did that I would have taped CL's mouth shut , cancelled all HER CC's ,then put her in the trunk of a car and told the driver to drive west for 6 months.Then I would tell Kurt she was gone, his life was his own to live and his decisions were now his own to make. What a nice thing it was for her to do .....to stage an intervention with a person in his state of mind...Anyone vouldve seen that would throw him over the top. She also told him over the phone that he dropped Frances on her head - but didnt harm her - in the interview i saw ,she was cocky and proud that she made him feel like a piece of crap . A narcissist would tell a lie like that to push him further over the edge. Everyone says - just let Kurt rest in peace - 😢 I think hnk he IS resting in peace - hes in a better place by far - however justice needs to be served - then we all here can rest in Peace. Thank you for sharing this touching video.
I feel so bad for Krist, he had to fight with his own best friend and later he would die.
That's what has to be eating at him,that he never got the chance to talk about it and wash the slate clean. If kurt could have seen through the heroin haze and realize that Krist really loves him.
What a touching story. I had no idea any of this happened. Imagine being a passenger at the airport and you turn around to see Kurt Cobain and Krist Novoselic in a fist fight. So sad that this was the last memory he had of his friend. That's heart breaking.
For real??!! Like that would have been missed or no one recognized either of them??! Don't by in to this shit they're trying to feed us . It's bullshit!
And do you know, how it was, he saw Kurt again??
He,, meet,, his deat Body, his Head was fixed, and a Headscarf upon his overhead and Eyes!
Krist hold his Hand once again!
After this he was leaving, in his Car, turning on his Radio!
All the Time, he felt this cold Hand of Kurt, he said, no matter how often he washt his Hand, this cold was not going..
And in this Moment he turned in his Radio, the Moment after visit Kurts Body, they Played,, BROKE MY BODY, HOLD MY BONES HOLD MY BONES,, from PIXIES!
THIS TO STORYS, about Kurt and Krist, are so Heartbreaking soo cruel! Gid bless both of him! 🙏💕
I think Krist is wise enough to see it as a symptom of Kurt’s illness and that he doesn’t take it personal.
I think Kurt had so many negative vibes and a negative outlook that his road required suicide. When you have an infant daughter and she cannot even keep you alive, it’s over.
@@douglaslang2218 unfortunately you are Truth... There was Something inside him UNHEALABLE.. Deepest Sadness, i dont know, but i think a BIG BIG Lost of Trust, many from his own Childhood,, Anyway God bless him
Man, Krist did everything he could. Literally fighting to keep him alive. So sad.
Unfortunately drug addicts don't want to hear about it. They are only concerned about getting high.
@@exdemocrat9038 that’s such an ignorant statement to make
@@exdemocrat9038 ridiculous.. many addicts don't even use drugs to get high. This is a misconception. Most addicts have mental illness and the drugs are the only thing that will cover it up & make them feel normal.
@@Starseedrisingg Not arrogant, it's the truth. When a person keeps getting high and doesn't clean himself he OBVIOUSLY thinks the habit of getting high is better than everything else in his life. HE KNEW that heroin would cripple him and make him a subhuman yet he kept shooting. Everyone makes choices and we keep moving forward with the choices we make. He knew the dangers of dependency and the hell of withdrawal, yet he CHOSE to start shooting H again. When the options showed up in front of him :
a) living in that constant hell for months searching for his fix just to keep getting high a few times a day and
b) cutting all that shit out of his life and living a great life with his family and friends with no chemical dependencies.
He chose a, and shot himself (or got offed by someone else). So fuck Cobain you know? Good songwriting and singing , but a pretentious fucking junkie.
@@Starseedrisinggwell it’s not that far from the truth but it did come out kinda insensitive and BS
I feel for dude. He still hasn’t gotten over it. Was like his little brother
I think he accepted it and moved on, but it obviously left a big scar in his life.. Just imagine being a total misfit in a forgotten little town and the only thing that makes you happy is to play music with your friend in a basement, and then suddenly you and your band are one of the biggest musical acts in the world forever... That must be one hell of a experience and probably left a deep mark in your mind and soul
And obviously even more after how it all ended
@@enriquepastor3626 - you can just see when he has to talk about it - he is still grieving. The happy go lucky clown part of him seems to have died with Kurt
I think Krist is the one that loved Kurt the most out of everybody…
It’s 28 years later dude, he’s over it…
I can’t believe this is the last thing Krist saw of Kurt in the end he was just trying to help him but we miss you kurt thanks for all you’ve done for us
Alcoholics and addicts don’t work that way > you can’t force the issue at all > it seems and is an emergency but it can’t be handled that way at all especially if it’s the first time someone is getting clean - I think Kurt was being used by a lot of people for selfish ends as that’s how the industry works but it was his will to be part of it > Pisces swim both ways ... opposing nature within
it wasn't - the story is made up
This is just such a sad ending for Kurt and Krist long time relationship. I can't believe they were hitting each other in the Airport. That's so crazy and tragic.
Krist is the man. Nothing but respect for the man who continues to carry Kurt's torch. Speaks of him like the person he was not the mythical characture he's been turned into
Krist definitely changed. He was always a joker, on stage and off. He was like a comedian. But that Krist was gone after Kurt’s death
I don’t know. In that Sirius xm never mind anniversary thing with Jon Stewart I got a lot of laughs from the old krist. It’s still there. He’s just older and mellower
@@cheothegeo2742no man op is right part of krist died when Kurt died. Ya sure you can always have laughs , but krist became heavy since then. Coming from an original nirvana fan since 91
It’s so sad. This is what drugs can do to people and their relationships with others. I hope Krist is able to forgive and find peace knowing that the last time he saw Kurt, that it wasn’t really Kurt.
It was Kurt burning the bridge with his best friend and on his way out
You can tell Krist hasn't fully grieved yet over his best friend. When he starts talking about how he shouldn't have done that you can here his voice cracking fighting back tears. RIP Kurt Cobain hopefully you found some peace now wherever you are now.
Dave Grohl and Kurt Cobain were very close friends but Krist and Kurt knew each other singe high school. Krist was with Kurt all the way through their band experience up until the end.
@Kath Octogon They met in high school.
Krist is the only human being alive to attend every single Nirvana show.
I wish Kurt had not used heroin, this horrible drug is just destroying people
It was truly everywhere in the 90s and we weren't wise enough to it. This generation can see firsthand what happens on the internet. Such a hard drug to beat and it sucks you dry of your core personality.
But heroin people look 'beautiful'. Don't u see that.? 😅
It was only to numb his pain from various medical issues, mainly horrible stomach pain. :(
@@foundvhs nah, that's just an excuse.
@@maxludlow6629 maybe my experience was unique, but I was well aware of the consequences of heroin use well before the 90s. My mother, with whom I'd had minimal contact with as a small child, came home to live with her parents (who had raised me) when I was 12 & she was trying to kick heroin. My bedroom was next door to the one she was staying in. They had one common wall. I will NEVER forget the sounds that permeated that wall. It was like there was a wild animal trapped in the room next door, wounded & dying, screaming in pain, pounding its skull against the wall, ripping its hair out, clawing at the doors & windows, trying to find a way out, begging to die in a low, gutteral tone that could not possibly be coming from a human being. She LITERALLY ceased to be a human for a while there.
It understandably made a huge impression on me. Traumatized? Oh yeah, for sure, but the whole ugly experienced kept me from EVER even wanting to try heroin. I remember thinking to myself as I l lay awake listening to her suffering in the next room, unable to sleep with all that going on, "There is NOTHING that could make me feel so good that I would be willing to feel THAT bad. Nothing."
Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, probably not most people's typical experience growing up.
Hey, but I also remember watching Starsky & Hutch when I was a kid, & there was one episode where Starsky got all strung out on heroin working undercover to infiltrate some drug kingpin's ranks, & it showed a fairly accurate depiction of heroin withdrawals, albeit tamed down for primetime television. I'm sure there were other depictions of heroin addicts in movies & on TV back then. Maybe you had decent parents who didn't let you watch that kind of stuff.
People been knowing what heroin is like for centuries now. Wasn't there substance abuse in his family too? He may not have known the full extent, but he wasn't clueless or niaive about what he was getting into when he started using. There were people around him that walked that path before him. I'm pretty sure that Andrew Wood had already died of a heroin overdose before Kurt had his first taste, not that the two bands fraternized, but I'm sure their circles overlapped somewhat. He knew.
27 year later and his death is still being talked about, he is such a legend, I miss him so much, I hate the fact that I wasnt born when nirvana did shows
I was, and it ruled
I do feel sorry for kids today that didn't get to experience this amazing band, and many others of the time period. No cell phones, people actually hung out and had conversations. Amazing music! It was a great time.
Yeah, nostalgia is good. Living in the past sucks. I tend to find people who have interesting or fulfilling lives don't spend their social time playing the "Remember when" game.
I hear what you are saying. But there are a lot of bands that were just as good as Nirvana, still plying their trade today. I saw Soundgarden absolutely implode on the the same stage that 3 hours before heralded The Prodigy's explosion into the mainstream..... the EXACT SAME FESTIVAL!!!
And I can tell you, we don't bang on about how we saw the mediocre and absolute travesty of a "giant" from that "Seattle Scene"...
My point is this, there are new Nirvanas playing all the time. You won't find them on MTV or HOT97 (or whatever the yanks watch/listen to for the latest sounds).
Don't get me wrong, it would of have been nice if I could of saw Nirvana. But I was under-age for the only gig I could have gone too. And the gigs/bands I have seen were just as passionate, and even better, than Nirvana. They were just unfortunate/lucky not to have a sycophantic cult build an image that in truthfulness probably isn't fully warranted.
Put it another way, would people still be worshipping Kurt if he didn't blow his brains out? Hell, even the Rolling Stones are past their used by date, and surviving on the memories of rose-tinted glasses of a Boomer generation who are at their legal retirement age.
I don't feel sorry for people who never got to see that amazing band. I feel sorry for the people who's lives are defined by seeing it ;)
Long time ago dude (interestingly its been the same amount of years since his death as he was alive on this earth) , I missed the only show he had at my home town as they cancelled
@@RogueBoyScout - which explains why Shannon Hoon’s death has made his band so beloved. Oh wait - it didn’t because they don’t have Nirvana (Kurt’s song catalog). Kurt’s catalog is the Rodgers&Hammerstein of rawk. Rivaled only by the Beatles. The suicide may bring people to the source - but the songs are what sustain the fandom.
Very sad and hard to hear Krist say that, "Kurt could've did anything he wanted to do"😣😩
Krist Novoselic. The great partner and the only true friend of Kurt's life. And one of the few who always tried to save him until the last moment. And a unique bassist. Respect.
I was 13 when Kurt died, and as difficult as it was to accept that it happened, I would go on to lose many of my friends and family to drugs and suicide over the years; being a recovering drug addict myself, I am lucky that I made it out alive.
Same exact story as you, except I was 10 not 13. I lost friends to drugs and suicide over the years too, and I'm a recovering heroin addict myself.
I can understand this happening... Kurt was not himself at the time. Was probably in withdrawals and/or fearing the withdrawals and acting out of sheer panic/desperation.
Same here...
Lost 107 since june 2001
@@thecannaviking 107? What?
i hope youre fully recovered now.
So Dylan, made a favor to his suicidal and heroin addicted friend (I guess he was aware of the Rome incident) and bought him a shotgun? What a nice guy! Super friend
Carlson was on drugs too ! Everybody except Dave and Krist were on drugs. i m sure that their intellect was very altered.........
@Nate Stephens Yes, you are right Nate. Cheers.
@Nate Stephens Good one. I've read many of your comments, and I agree with you. Hope CL pays for what she did in this life but she better pack for the heat in the next.
@Nate Stephens True Psych Ward is unbelievable, Dr B knows her stuff, everything about CLs crimes, relationship with Frances, Kurt, the entire Isiah Silva case, court documents etc. You'll like it mate. Cheers.
@@iggysticky 🤣🤣🤣 Rome incident was covered by every medias back in 94. Even in the hole i live ! Impossible that Carlson did not know what happened.
Waw that’s something I never imagined they went through c and k. Shockingly sad
Might've been why Krist seems so sad now, he probably felt immense guilt when founding out Kurt was dead, it's like arguing with your brother and then he dies a few days later, I'm sure that Kurt wasn't angry with Krist anymore, I'm sure he wasn't annoyed with him in his last days.
I never heard that story of Krist’s last memory with Kurt. That must be really hard for Krist that his last memory with Kurt was him punching him in the face and running away after having to fight him and while he unsuccessfully tried to get Kurt to Los Angeles for rehab is heartbreaking. What makes this more heartbreaking is that Kurt was like a like a little brother to Krist and he had that for a final memory with his longtime best friend
It's just heartbreaking 💔 😢
Krist you know you’re right. Kurt could’ve easily quit the music industry and just raised his daughter.
Yea so true he would have made a great father!
True, but I don't think it was the music industry that was the reason he killed himself. That was just an excuse Kurt put in his suicide note. The true reason he killed himself is because he was addicted to heroin and knew he didn't have the willpower to beat it. Interestingly he doesn't mention heroin or his addiction at all in the suicide note, suggesting his inability to beat heroin was more shameful to admit than his loss of passion for music (a side effect of opiate addiction). Touring also made it hard to acquire heroin, a further reason he attributed blame to music. The intervention made him realise that nobody around him was going to tolerate his problem anymore, and when it came to the crunch he would rather die by his own hand than lose his band and family, and be a very public fuck-up. At least by suicide he could be romanticised as a young dead rockstar, and avoid experiencing the inevitable public humiliation, rather than become a lonely, washed up old man that chose heroin over everyone that cared about him. He knew his life was about to fall apart publicly due to his heroin addiction, knew he couldn't beat heroin, and chose death instead. "It's better to burn out than to fade away"
@@SidCurtin-yi7fl Wow. That totally makes sense. Kurt was a silently prideful man, and would've hated to be humiliated. I'm sure the intervention humiliated him to his core.
@@thethirdtomas3 i've been on drugs and got out of it, Kurt was only 27 years old and a millionaire, he had not even had the time to really be a real drug addict by that age, and if so he might of prob been able to realize the prob and do something to stop the habit by maybe 30 years old, so what was the point of trying to tell him not to do drugs when everyone around him, "except his band members", was on drugs?? And who started this whole thing on, he had to quit drugs? I think there is more to the story then just trying to get kurt off drugs, shit makes no sense at all.
@@jimmywilliams4257 you explained this better than anyone one else
What Kurt never understood is that he was blessed with a brother like Krist.
If that really happened at an airport, how come no one on earth ever talked about being a witness to seeing the biggest band on the planet at that time going to blows in an airport terminal? Not saying it didn't happen because i wasn't there, but does seem kinda iffy.
because the murdered narrative has totally been debunked. Krist would not make that up.
Because this was pre-tmz
In the 90s he wouldn't be recognized like today. Maybe if he was somewhere with a lot of young people.
Kurt Cobain has left this almost god like legacy to the people like me who were born mid 90s who didn't grow up with him alive.
Right, I was 25 when kurt passed away, and I definitely don't view him as this god like mythic figure, I actually met kurt, krist and Chad in 1989 in my hometown of Cincinnati when they played at murphys pub when i was a student at UC. I see him as a super talented musician who died too soon. But to my kids, they find it hard to believe that he really existed. My oldest was 3 when he passes and my youngest was born in ' '96. Its crazy how generations view famous people who have passed away.
Yeah thats true , I'm born in 92 and I still can't٠ get over his death , I hope he is resting in peace
As a former heroin addict myself, I can understand this happening. Kurt was not himself at the time. Was probably in withdrawals and/or fearing the withdrawals and acting out of sheer panic/desperation. Kurt already had anxiety issues and heroin withdrawals amplifies existing mental health issues like that exponentially. I also have anxiety and I can say the heroin withdrawals I went through were the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.
Tell us something we don't know.
@@tomcarl8021 Nah, I'm good.
@@lightbeforethetunnel Next you'll be telling us fire is hot.
@@tomcarl8021 Brah, I'm just posting my personal experience. It doesn't make sense to say you could have known I was a former heroin addict before I posted it
Good post, but the Cross is a very disturbing symbol
Kurt fue muy afortunado de tener un amigo como Krist.
Saddens me that their friendship and Last moment ended with a Brawl and argument *sigh* believe me i know how that’s like 😞😔
Kurt n Krist rumbling in the airport.? Gosh this is new to me.!
Krist is a big man with even bigger heart.This is that Croatian side in his upbringing. Definitely Kurt's best friend, and it's very sad that he couldn't help him in the end. Much closer to Kurt than everyone around him, everyone took advantage of Kurt. His talent, fame and money. Even other members of the band. Everyone used him except Krist . 'Courtney Love Kurt's Money' - that's graffiti in Zagreb, the capital of Croatia where Krist was in '93. in an alternative club where I was a DJ, and he came to get a little away from the fans in my DJ booth. And he stayed with me until the end. He was very modest and funny. We drank bad beer, he really liked the kind of music I played and he insisted that we speak in Croatian - which was hilarious to me. Great guy!
O pa gdje je grafit? Koji je to bio klub?
@@dystopiafan580 na dolcu,nije se dugo održao.
@@dystopiafan580 a klub je naravno bila Jabuka :)
Krist was right when he said Kurt literally could’ve done almost anything with his life. Even if he got a divorce he still would’ve had enough to live 5 lifetimes over on royalties. Seems like his drug use altered his mind completely.
No he was prob murdered
@@Daneiladams555 nah
Kurt's drug use was all that did matter during the last few months of his life. I am no expert and never met Kurt, but I know severe heroin intimately. Comparitively speaking, the only difference between Kurt's addiction and every other heroin addict is, simply, he did not have beg money to support it.
@@Daneiladams555 I wouldn’t say murdered probably like Cali went and got him high , too high. He died , he didn’t tell anyone made it look like a suicide. Boom. Everyone’s happy and gets the shares of his money.
Yes! Its like that film ‘Requiem of a Dream’ it just consumed him. He became heroin the last years of his life.
For some reason the story of them fighting doesn’t surprise me it sounds some shit they would do
If there's ever a proper Nirvana movie I'm sure they will include this whole scene of Kurt trying to jump out of the moving car on the highway.
Then right after pick the guitars and jam lol.
This story has been well documented through the years. A light went out in Krist forever after that.
This has to be the worst last goodbye in history… what a huge trauma for Krist, I’m so sorry for him. He’s the last guy in the world that deserved this 😢
That’s insane, I’ve never heard that story before. Such a tragic way for their friendship to end.
Krist cared so much. It's so sad he tried his best to help
WoW, I've never heard that story, I knew Krist was pretty angry about the very end. Who wouldn't considering how close they were. Shit they went to High School together. Their relationship was so deep. It's just makes me cry knowing what actually happened the last time they saw each other. I'm sure Krist thinks about that every single day. That's tragic...smh
@Kath Octogon Did they go to the same High School? Someone told me that years ago. That's just such a brutal way for your last experience with someone who you love so much.
There's more to this story. When Kurt went missing from rehab, Krist went looking for him and couldn't find him. After, Kurt was found, MTV stuck a camera in his face. The raw devastation was heartbreaking to watch. The tabloids released pictures with Kurt and the band with guns. It was very sad and tragic.
@@annaiorio4543 I was only 11 when Kurt passed away, but it's always stayed with me. Once I srarted putting time into researching about his death, it just for me, never made sense that this was a suicide at all. Yes regarding Krist, I can't begin to imagine how he coped.
I wasn't even alive when Nirvana started or ended and yet I feel upset everytime i listen to Nirvana because i struggle with the idea that Kurt Cobain is dead. I would do anything to meet him or go to one of his concerts.
The more you look into Kurt’s behavior in the days leading up to the suicide, the more you realize it was a suicide and not some Courtney Love conspiracy.
Courtney's behaviour and the people in that house around the time Kurt was dead there was odd as well at the time... I think there's more than we've been told.
I hope they realize this is exactly why innocent people go to prison.
Exactly! And when he did die he was too fuckin loaded and make a stupid decision. Drugs totally robbed him of logical thinking. Sad ending.
@@minecrafterman2334 when u wait 2 hours to call for help in Rome and then before shoot him up with more CNS depressing drug recipe if that's saving him I hope nobody gets saved like that. She's like many money hungery hos, will spread for bread. She knew he was dead and where. She was heard telling Dylan to CHECK GREEN HOUSE by Rosemary Carroll. He didn't so she called Veca and told them to start on greenhouse Friday morning. Yes she didn't pull trigger but she knew where he was and he was gone. That's not a loving wife. Where was she during their anniversary? With Billy window shopping. Why was the pages of Kristen's diary she wrote in daily and backed up by cassette ripped out the week of his death but no other time is gone? Why did she give Det Terry's widow a chunk of change when he died investigating where the dope Kurt had came from? Why give a COD on live TV 2 hours after seeing the body when No tests was done let alone results back? Why sign Death Certificate a week later and no results was done including gun prints? They let Kurt be cremated in a week. That whole investigation was shit.
@Tom if you are right but still respect those who smell a rat for some who do are pretty intelligent
Damn, that's sad. I never knew that. I had a vaguely similar experience with a very good friend and it's been bothering me a lot, lately. Wishing I could have done something different to make it turn out differently, and maybe he'd have been able to stick around if I did. He'd be dead by now, I'm pretty sure, but he could have died out here with us instead of leaving.
To hear these stories about these Unbelievable people is so sad!! Rest in Peace Kurt!!⚘
Has krist ever told this story in these words elsewhere? I have a hard time believing anything that comes from heavier than heaven.
I'm curious too
Heavier than heaven might as well be the gospel according to Courtney Love. In every interview of Krist I've seen he never directly talks about it, like he never even mentions killed himself just that he shouldn't have done that, almost like he still hasn't processed and accepted what happened or something else went down that led to Kurt being killed, but he's bound by the non disclosure agreement with Courtney Love
I agree 100%. I don’t believe the majority of that book.
Yea it doesn’t make sense cause Kurt went to rehab and escaped then he passed away
That book or whatever is a big pile of BS
That really hurts my heart. I can’t believe that in all the years since it happened, I’ve NEVER heard this story before. It’s no wonder Krist has always seemed so wounded since Kurt’s death. That’s my quota of sadness for the week. Gonna go curl up in a corner now. 😖
The dude who wrote that book of which this information comes from got all of his info from Courtney love. Last I heard, last time Kurt and Krist interacted was on the phone.
Didnt happen
He does make a great point that Kurt could have almost literally done anything he wanted. So many like myself wish they had even a whiff at financial freedom like that. No matter, it's so sad this dude's rock bottom was what it was. This story only reminds me of so many other drug related fights. He was clearly not ready to get clean but needed it in a bad way.
I could always tell Krist has a heart of gold. R.i.p. Kurt, love you always 💖
Could you do a battle of the albums between facelift and Dirt by Alice in chains?
I recall reading that part of the book and feeling like I've been kicked in the stomach while lying on the floor. It's so sad for Krist to have that as the last memory of his friend.
None has commented like OH, I REMEMBER, I WAS AT THE AIRPORT AT THAT TIME!
Agreed. I don’t believe a single word of any of that. Just seems off to me.
I know...a knock down, drag out at the airport? Kurt running screaming " f**k
you!" at any paranoid airport...Where was SECURITY? And no one with a cell phone caught video of this spectacle whether they knew of Kurt Cobain or not??? Sounds like a whopper to me! Who is the source of this story? With all due respect, where did you find this tid bit, channel?
Why would Krist lie about this? What's going on here?
@@joleneloveland2942 the source is a book by Charles Cross who was a Nirvana biographer, it is called Heavier than heaven. Imho, this is really paranoic. If Kurt didn't want to fly to LA so much he would never sit into the car. It doesn't make any sense to sit into a car and then open the door and try to get out while the car is moving. If it's true then Kurt really was in a terrible condition but he would not wait several days to die then. I don't believe he killed himself.
Yeah ..that's is rather suspect
I think everyone forgets social media and the internet was not a huge thing. Unless it was MTV or One of the rock magazines you didn't hear much. Yea his death was big but rock stars fighting... tad common honestly
“Heartbreaking” doesn’t even begin to describe the emotional gravity of such a tragic event. I truly feel for Krist. That had to be absolutely awful. He did his best to be the best friend he knew how to be and got physically attacked and probably scarred for life in some sense after Kurt died.
When I was younger, I used to be in on the Courtney had Kurt killed camp. The older I get and the more I learn the more It seems pretty obvious that the guy was in a lot of physical and mental pain and killed himself.
krist use to be a bouncy happy go lucky guy but right after kurt died, he no longer was the same.
Aw!!!!! I read Heavier Than Heaven, but it is so great to be reminded.
This is sad...I really feel bad that he had too fight such demons. May your soul be at peace now Kurt..I pray youre at peace brother
Sorry Krist, this truly sucks. Nothing else to say about it, it just sucks.
Sad. Heroin addiction takes your soul away.
Damn poor Krist😢
What a sad story! One more proof what does the heroin and drugs do with the people.
I feel bad for krist, that was his last time with kurt :(
I can't imagine how it must've hurt Krist's soul
Geez.. man, so sad what Krist went through.
I’ve never heard this story before and I don’t know how that’s possible honestly…
If I was Krist I would know I did EVERYTHING possible to save my friend and band mate. I’ve lost many friends to drugs and the only ones I regret are the ones I didn’t do anything to save. Ultimately you can’t save someone from themselves.
Poor Krist. He really tried to help his mate.
I was the last person to see my best friend before he committed suicide. I’m glad it didn’t go down like krist n kurt. It’s grim man, I feel for him
Wow I did not know this happened between them. That is so sad. Id always thought the jack in the box thing where kurt went to have Krist unknowingly to his dealer.
Krist never actually told these stories, i can't find any of it somewhere's, it's all 2nd hand stories... why would kurt use krist to drive him places, kurt was a millionaire, he could of just took a cab or a limo anywhere's he went if he didn't want anyone to know he was buying drugs... i've had friends like that, but they were broke and needed a drive to score... definitely not millionaires 🤣🤣
Krist never actually told these stories, i can't find any of it somewhere's, it's all 2nd hand stories... why would kurt use krist to drive him places, kurt was a millionaire, he could of just took a cab or a limo anywhere's he went if he didn't want anyone to know he was buying drugs... i've had friends like that, but they were broke and needed a drive to score... definitely not millionaires 🤣🤣
Damn, that hurt hearing that. After Kurt died, I never read or watched anything about Nirvana or Kurt, I Just blocked it all out. Only now after all these years am I starting to hear stories like this. Miss you heaps Kurt, If it wasn't for Nirvana's music I reckon I wouldn't be here right now...
Oh Dios, me ocurrió lo mismo 😥
Krist might have felt he wouldn't ever see Kurt again, but it wasnt because of their fight they had because Kurt didnt want to go to rehab or what might happen if he didn't. I imagine Kurt was still smarting because his good friend Krist participated in a bogus intervention by CL when she was probably more addicted at the time than Kurt.. i imagine Kurt saw it as a betrayal.
So he went to rehab fully knowing that he probably would not stay. In his mind i think he was finished with everyone who participated in the intervention. When you quit a substance you have to be ready to do it and to do it for no one but yourself or it will not happen. Im sure he felt betrayed by his closest people falling into CL's hypocritical agenda. When he leff rehab he clearly had a plan as he purchased 2 air fares for a future date out of Seattle. I think he had plan and was planning a new start in his life. I think that's what Krist was picking up on. Kurt envisioned a new start that did not include him.
It was strange behavior on Krist's part seeing how he and Shelley wouldnt even attend his wedding because they did not approve of CL. But then he aligns himself with her on a bogus CL intervention. Would you not see that as a betrayal?
interesting, but i think that it s more simple than that. Kurt did not want to stop drugs like most junkies. His intelect was very altered by heroin. If you add that he was fed up for a lot of reasons ( personal life, health problems, celebrity etc). i suppose that he choose to die to live the imortality. the 27's club. Drugs and his near death expérience in Rome helped a lot.
what if the two tickets were for Kristen Pfaff and him? She was also trying to get away from CL
When your addicted to ANYTHING, YOU ALONE have to want to quit and move in the right direction, NO ONE can tell you to stop and most of the people telling Kurt to stop where hypocrites as they were just as addicted as him, especially his lovely wife...😏
Yes, and their intelect was very altered by drugs, that's why they all made bad choices and it led to this sad end: Carlson may never bought that gun, Courtney should came back earlier from L.A, etc....
Courtney had Kurt murdered. Carlson was in on it.
@@digitalsoldier3894 Since you were there. Maybe you can tell us EVERYTHING that went down that night.
@@jebstuart4004 and maybe mark Lanegan woulda answered Kurt’s phone call that fateful day but instead Lanegan was high on heroin. Heroin robbed The whole Seattle scene.
Regarding the airport fight, I suspect Cobain wouldn't have had any animosity towards Novoselic in the long run. Cobain was in full blown self destructive crisis mode. Krist tried his best at the time and was a good friend who didn't bail when things got rough.
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Fuck man, it honestly makes me feel so sad thinking about how much better things could of been... The whole Nirvana left, still has not been filled by any other band since.
This is heartbreaking and as a teenager (back then) who loved nirvana and the social change they(Kurt) helped lead. Felt like the death of optimism
Even today I am choked up thinking about when I walked into home room and saw the news on channel 1 tha he was gone. Fk man what a loss. Art is a tue separating factor from the animals and she primal impulse takes us to this level feels like a de-evolution and (as Kurt was famous for) a complete contradiction of everything preceding it.
Imagine if there were smart phones during Kurts days. Him and Krist rolling around on the airport floor beating the hell out of each other would be all over the internet.
Kurt was beautiful...Gone too soon.
My brother died in a very similar way, but he didn't shot himself. Anyhow, I feel sorry for Krist in many levels. I can relate with the guilt he probably carry for himself.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck...Krist...didn't know THAT story at all!....I know from experience watching a loved one sink to the bottom....the helplessness is OVERWHELMING. Wrestling with Kurt in the airport....never ran across that story in all I've read & heard about Nirvana. You're missed Kurt...RIP.
100% nonsense. Heavier Than Heaven was basically written by Courtney. The book is nothing more than pushing her narrative.
That’s just not fair. Poor Krist
YO MAN BIG THUMBS UP! Where do you get all this information from?
Seeing Krist in the movie World’s Greatest Father as he hugged Robin Williams was almost poetic to what happened with Kurt.
I can’t imagine the pain Krist felt after knowing for sure that airport fight was the last time he’d see Kurt
Wish Kurt didn’t take the cowards way out. Krist was right when he said he could’ve done anything. I’ve been a believer in the conspiracy theories but it’s kinda hard to trust any of that after hearing what his best friend had to do. Rip Kurt anyway.
Do you think the airport fight happened with nobody noticing it? Kurt running and cursing and Security never even noticed as paranoid as airports are now. Really?? Sounds like a total fish story to me.
@@joleneloveland2942 I’m sure they noticed it. Remember it was pre 9/11 so most of the time that shit would happen it would go pretty unnoticed.
I never heard krist tell this story... so this is not a story straight out of the horse's mouth, so i take this story with a grain of salt
@@Ludeguy83 who knows kurts been dead longer than he was alive for. Whatever happened it’s too late to really get to the bottom. Unless Courtney confesses on her deathbed, we’ll probably just believe the “story”.
@@followdanger890 yah, i agree with you!
Des,they were a duo, like a Comic duo-Asterix and Obelix, Kurt with his Magic Powerdrink! I still love them !-watch their live Show / 17th April 1991, Nirvana Still !
Where is the source for this story ? I've googled this and can't find anything.
Its from the heavier than heaven book.find this hard to believe.
@Kath Octogon How could you possibly know that?
@@philcollins23 this book is indirectly from CL
A wonderful man n great musican
Poor Krist, what a good friend he was to Kurt ,even maybe Kurt didnt see at the time.Gut wrenching.
This is sad :(...i feel bad for Krist, a part of him died when Kurt died...
What was the fight about though? Obviously there was a disagreement. Kurt was doing fantastic up until a key event a month before his death, he caught Courtney cheating on him. According to Courtney Kurt was so hurt he roofied himself and almost died......imagine how Kurt must have felt? He had no drugs in his system when he overdosed in March 93' so he got back on drugs after that.
We really have to understand how traumatized Kurt was by divorce as a young child and he wrote about how he would fight to his death to protect Francess from divorce, then he finds himself in his worst nightmare. He caught his wife cheating and told her it was over and getting a divorce, she roofied him and tried to kill him that night. He wakes up from the coma and has to know he was drugged, at this point he must have gotten pretty scared. I think he got back on drugs to cope with the stress of the situation then Courtney used that to say she will take custody of Francess since he was on drugs, that's when Kurt burned the bridges with everyone.
Why do people have to hear this from me? I might have actually believed Kurt killed himself they spun this narrative becaus there is logic in it. The thing is, this narrative doesn't exist. Not one person other than Courtney has said anything about cheating or divorce.
I'll pretend to be Krist: Why do I think Kurt killed himself? He was doing so well then relapsed on drugs when he caught his wife cheating, he couldn't handle divorce or the thought of loosing Francess and took the easy way out".
Now, doesn't that sound a lot better than Krist's reddit response?
"Finally, one of the reasons I am convinced Kurt killed himself is that he purchased a .20 shotgun. Kurt was not interested in hunting birds or squirrels, he bought that firearm as a suicide device. Suicide is not rational."
Seriously Krist? Kurt had lots of guns, the police confiscated them in a bogus claim by Courtney saying Kurt was locked in his closet with his guns and was suicidal, which she admitted was a false claim but they still took his gun. Google Kurt Cobain and gun, lots of pictures of Kurt with guns, pretty sure they were for home protection and not hunting .....Krist should know that. Even Dillion said Kurt was worried about intruders and it was for home protection. Kurt got roofied and almost died, of course he is going to protect himself.
Kurt broke up Nirvana, lowered their cuts of the profits, and said he preferred jamming with Hole rather than his own band. If I were Krist my feeling would be hurt to hear that and I would be kinda pissed at Kurt, especially after he got back on drugs after getting sober. He may have burned his bridges with Kurt right before he died and I know Krist loved Kurt so that would be absolutely traumatic for him. I can see why he won't research Kurt's death, could you imagine the trauma of believing your best friend killed himself for decades only to learn he was murdered and he wasn't there for him when he needed him the most? He probably wants to stay in the reality where Kurt was an asshole bent on suicide and there was nothing anyone could have done to help.......but there was.
Kurt needed a real friend, if Kurt didn't open up to Krist about the cheating and divorce then that tells me all I need to know......Kurt didn't trust Krist enough to confide in. If Krist does know those details and just keeping quiet that tells me a lot also.
I want to talk to Krist, I want to explain about the cheating and divorce and I want to know his honest feelings on Kurt breaking up the band and lowering his cut. Krist might not know about the cheating or divorce, imagine what he would think to learn of why Kurt was so messed up near the end? It would make a lot more sense to him and maybe he can help get Kurt justice. I would love to see the day Krist and Francess get into the evidence of murder and sincerely try to get Justice for Kurt because they would make a huge difference.
@cross hatch2 Thanks I never seen that Iggy video. I completely agree and there are many x factors that get really dangerous for Kurt. First of all his goal was to sabotage and destroy the mainstream music industry from the inside, he wrote about his goals in his journals and also said pages and whole journals would go missing in hospitals, hotels, planes, and someone may have been gathering Intel on his personal thoughts and aware of his plans, he would make a lot of enemies. I don't think he was on Krist or Dave's good side at all, Kurt said they were very passive aggressive but sounds like things got really ugly near the end. He dropped the lollapalooza tour which would have cost a lot of people millions of potential profit, I would imagine he was under contract as well. Kurt was done with Nirvana and I would assume major labels as well, if he went solo the party would have been over for a lot of people. Then there is Courtney's Epstein connection and Courtney's fortune she can inherited from her Bohemian Grove member grandpa. I suspect Billy Corgan was who Courtney cheated on Kurt with, but what if it was actually related to her Epstein connection and sex trafficking? That could be veeeeeey dangerous if Kurt found out.
Kurt was worth more dead than alive to everyone in his life, sadly even Krist and Dave. Actually, who did Courtney sell some Nirvana right to again? I'm gonna look that up, that is weird how there is a person or group out there still profiting off of Kurt that is not related to his family, I wonder if there are any connections with the record companies Kurt worked for?
Edit: Mestel owns 25% of Kurt's share of Nirvana, a company that buys up rights to music, and the owner was the executive producer of Montage of Heck. Just wild speculation, but if someone in the industry wanted to profit off of Kurt after he died it would be through something like Mestel so there might be a lead there, it's always good to follow the money trail.
@cross hatch2 They seem sooooo awkward and lost without Kurt. Dave went from shy and introverted, to an extroverted drunken party animal. Dave comes off very insincere to me in every interview, like he only says what people expect to hear.
It is interesting to think Dave already had most of the foo fighters songs written by that point. Kurt talked about them going in other musical directions, Kurt asked Dave if he could change the lyrics of his songs for Nirvana songs, I can only assume Dave declined. Courtney said in that recent post that Dave doesn't deserve any money since he was kicked out of the band, first I ever heard of that but it would make sense. Kurt called Dave's riff for scentless apprentice boneheaded at first and I read a story where Dave got offended that Kurt was kinda making fun of him on a plane, and Dave said he was always worried about getting replaced since Nirvana went through so many drummers.
There were rumors Kurt lowered the rest of the bands split since he was the only one contributing to songwriting, I think that would be in response to Dave not allowing Kurt to use his future foo fighters songs as Nirvana songs, the logic makes sense.
It's possible Dave got kicked out if the band but it wasn't official, then after Kurt died he was technically still in the band and got song rights, he took Kurt's place in the spotlight, came out of his she'll, and became the rockstar he probably felt Kurt should have been, soaking in the fame and loving the attention. Dave profited and benefited off of Kurt's death so much so that it should be impossible not to feel some level of guilt. I don't think Foo Fighters would have been nearly as successful had Kurt lived, Dave would always have been in Kurt's shadow. Now he is promoting vaccines and played dictator Biden's inauguration..........oh my how Dave has fallen from his punk rock roots and joined the system that Kurt was trying to destroy.
imagine fighting your friend and being told "f*ck you" from him, and it's the last you'd hear from him.
I think Krist is sad because Kurt left him lonely and he was at first mad that Kurt could be "selfish" to leave him on earth alone, I feel like they were soulmates. Not romantically but a soulmate is a person with whom one has a feeling of deep or natural affinity. This may involve similarity, love, romance, platonic relationships, comfort, intimacy, spirituality, compatibility and trust. And the fact that Kurt could do such a thing without thinking how this will affect Krist made Krist depressed and changed him forever because he doesn't have his other half with him. Saying I'm sorry for his loss means nothing it's just a reminder ik how it feels and he just likes to talk about the good times with Kurt because reminiscing on fond memories is a lot healthier than talking about his death and the impact it had
I miss Kurt everyday ❤️
I mean, Krist would manhandle Kurt if they got in a real fight, I love Kurt as much as the next person but Krist would destroy him, it's literally like a heavy weight fighting a fly weight.
Kurt briefly did wrestling as a kid so he wasn't that bad at fighting
yeah krist is like 6'7", hes a giant
He was also tenderhearted, and was not trying to manhandle him I’m quite sure.
I've been thinking a lot about Kurt Cobain's death lately, mainly how Krist Novoselic must have felt, terribly bad obviously, but Kurt was his best friend, so has he ever gotten over it? It's been 28 years and Krist always remembers him but he still has a hard time talking about his friend's death 😥. Kisses to heaven Kurt.
It makes sense on why Kurt was like that.When someone’s body and brain are dependent on drugs it’s like they think they need it or they will die.For a heroin addict being denied drugs is like a sober person being denied food or water.When we don’t eat or drink water we get dehydrated and hungry.For a heroin addict if they don’t get the drug into there system they go into withdawl.Still it’s sad that Kurt and Krist’s last interaction ended this way.
I wonder where are they (dave and krist) during Kurt was missing, I mean I dunno.. I watched the story of his death but I can't hear their names..😔
Dave was in Virginia in his family right after they came back from europe. Krist was near Seattle but Courtney always tried to put him away. She prefered what steve Albini called "the biggest shity people i have ever seen" for Kurt....fake people, drug users, people who think like her. She was afraid about real kurt's friends because she knew they hate her !
@@jebstuart4004 thanks for this, I only heard about Dave that he went back to the US after from Rome, but krist no and only Pat was there with him..
@@loungeact8612 Yeah, and tensions were high since 3 months. During the european tour, Krist ans Dave were together and on the other side Kurt and Pat...That s sad cause i don' t think that Pat or other relatives (for me they are not really friends) were the best people who can really help Kurt. I m sure that Krist could have.....
@@jebstuart4004 but unfortunately they left him with people who really doesn't care that much to him (i didn't mean Pat).. Oh well!!
Sometimes there nothing you can do....poor Krist
I dont care krist is kurt cobain best friend not that dude Dylan carlson
You are referring to Dylan Carlson? He's super shady as well. You should join the "Kurt Cobain was murdered" group on Facebook. There's quite a few of them that go very deep into Kurts murder.
@@joshuayettou3552 i know he was
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he was only his dealer, such a fake friend
@@joshuayettou3552 If you haven't yet, go check out American Spy Fox's channel. He's done his research!!
‘Heavier Than Heaven’ is pretty much a PR piece for Courtney Love. I’m not saying this story didn’t take place, but Charles Cross’ is the only account I have ever seen of it. Since so many stories in Cross’ inexcusably terrible “biography” are made-up or embellished for the author’s or Courtney Love’s “artistic” or legal reasons, I can’t be certain that isn’t the case with this anecdote, too.
I have read Heavier than Heaven but I don't recall this story. Man this is a horribly sad story. Krist and Kurt were such a huge part of each other's lives. =(
Kurt's 'best friends', Dylan bought him to gun he used to kill himself and Lanegan basically was Kurt's enabler for their mutual heroin use and free dope (something he basically freely admits in his book). In reality Krist was the only real friend Kurt had.
I'll never ever forget where I was when Kurt died. Krist and Kurt had a brotherhood that was solid so I can relate how Kurt's death affected him. I'm at the age where family and friends died of either cancer, overdose, or suicide. I know a lot of people don't believe he killed himself or he was driven to give the world the big FU but that's something that will be answered for eventually. Krist didn't think he was murdered but I don't think he approved of his marriage to Courtney. You can just see the tension between the band, Kurt's family, and the audience who booed CL at the RNRHOF. I think they are just giving her enough rope to hang herself. Just speculating. Where were you all when you heard the news? I was at a friend's house. For two or three months straight I listened to my tape that had Incesticide on Side A and In Utero on Side B. My fave Nirvana songs are "Scentless Apprentice" and "Aneurysm". So after about an hour visiting my friend, her son said, "Hey man, I just heard on the radio that the lead singer of some band killed himself. I asked him to find out who it was. I just wept like a baby. Her son and his friends laughed at me for crying so much but they we're barely teenagers who preferred Tupac and Eminem. Not knocking them but I guess I was in shock and I'm a sensitive dork anyway. When I saw "Montage of Heck", I loved seeing all the archives except for one thing: When Kurt was holding Frances and nodding out. I felt that it exposed him for being dependent on heroin. That shouldn't have been shown in my opinion. You can tell if someone is a good parent or not and he was. Most addicts are ashamed and don't want to be found out. Anytime you are addicted to anything and don't get treatment it will never end well. I used to take oxy, buy a bit of crack now and then and when I asked myself, "Why did I waste my money (never had to pay for oxy) on this?" That's when I knew I had to quit. I relapsed on meth but my boyfriend gave me an ultimatum and I didn't want to lose him. I do smoke weed and THC oil for fibromyalgia, but I think marijuana can be a gateway back from all the harder drugs to combat the cravings. I guess it depends on the addictive personality thing. I can take it or leave it but when I had a colectomy with a foot long scar on my stomach followed by a heart attack, I knew had to get my act together. I admire Krist Novoselic for being honest about Kurt's last days. I admire the band for singlehandedly wiping out the pop hair metal bands just by going back to the basics in such a melodic way. Ok, I'm done lol. It's been a long time I shared some of my opinions. I just wish I didn't have to read all the "Courtney killed Kurt" comments 99% of the time. What goes around comes around even if it's nearly 30 years later. If he doesn't have to answer for his death, someone will have to even if they take it to their grave. ✌️
This is sad to hear
Being a rock star means you never have to grow up.
Legend. Miss him.
Krist seems like the nicest funniest guy .What a sad memory )
.He has heart ,and true love for Kurt. I know they have concluded it was a suicide but some of the bizarre facts of this case just dont add up. To me - Kurt was too deep, had soul and loved his daughter so much and wanted to live ...just not the way he was living. If I had been hanging around that crowd I would asked Kurt what HE wanted to do next ,before I did that I would have taped CL's mouth shut , cancelled all HER CC's ,then put her in the trunk of a car and told the driver to drive west for 6 months.Then I would tell Kurt she was gone, his life was his own to live and his decisions were now his own to make.
What a nice thing it was for her to do .....to stage an intervention with a person in his state of mind...Anyone vouldve seen that would throw him over the top. She also told him over the phone that he dropped Frances on her head - but didnt harm her - in the interview i saw ,she was cocky and proud that she made him feel like a piece of crap . A narcissist would tell a lie like that to push him further over the edge.
Everyone says - just let Kurt rest in peace - 😢 I think hnk he IS resting in peace - hes in a better place by far - however justice needs to be served - then we all here can rest in Peace. Thank you for sharing this touching video.