Honestly, these graphics docks make a lot more sense for handhelds than they do the miniPCs. You get the convenience of playing games on the go, but then you can also come home, plug it in and get better graphics while playing on the big screen!
I agree, I've always treated my rog ally like a nintendo switch and i think that's where it really shines. Getting home and ploping it into an external gpu just makes sense
I have made my Ally X as an all in one PC paired with my 4070Ti Super 16GB on Razer Core X. I dont have to install gaming & productivity software on multiple PC and I can game on the go unlike a gaming laptop. I also have a workstation and laptop setup but my go to now is Ally X.
$999 for the RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB, and $1099 for the 16 GB. That's around $500 just for the slow Thunderbolt enclosure and power. Far better options out there.
@@lavender188 IKR? On a sidenote, I know that the Switch 2 obviously won't have this feature exactly but it'd still be awesome if they at least provide something with the Switch 2 dock that boosts performance drastically.
@@MegaManNeo that would be super neat but i wouldnt hold my breath on it. nintendo loves cheaping out on hardware. i was laughably naiive to hope for something like this when the switch released. kinda glad they never did though it would probably make emulating it a lot more complicated.
we still have at least another year before steam even say something , at the momemt last news about steamdeck 2 i heard was they have AI division for frame upscaling/framegen for new APU from amd and they working on it for past 12/9 months , i would be suprice if Steam deck 2 would be announce befero 2026
I bought it and i use it with my rog ally x and it just amazing. I want to say there is not noise when I play on rog ally screen. It's just awesome! It's very expensive but if you can buy it, let's do it!
At first glance, I thought this literally defeats the purpose of a handheld. Then again, I've encountered couple of forks who claim they actually use their handhelds as their main PC. So it might be viable option for some who doesn't have main desktop PC.
Handhelds are a great mini PCs/second screens. This loses some of the size advantage, but if you travel a lot it makes sense to have a dock at home for your demanding games and just take the handheld on the road. I haven't invested in an EGPU dock yet and not sure if I will, but the Legion Go proved to be an excellent replacement for my PC (even if it's a pretty underwhelming handheld).
It’s just like with the Nintendo switch. You get the convenience of playing it on the go, but then when you get home, you can throw it on a dock and get better graphics.
They really should have made a version of this that just had the PCI-E slot. Even if it was twice as big, this would have been the upgrade people who had a Razer Chroma dock were looking for.
The onex offers a built in m.2 slot for extra ssd storage. I wonder if they'll offer an ssd expansion card for their mindlink slot considering i'll be using thunderbolt 4
Aren´t you losing some performance by having the internal display enabled? Doesn´t it gives the USB4 link an unnecessary overhead? I remember that for EGPUs, it is advisable to just use the external display, connected to the EGPU. Regards, RC
Question whi did you let run original image on Ally ? is it not taking that bandwith >? would u gain a few more fps if u would disable main screen on Ally ?>
5 in 1 modular mini pc with attachable tablet screen, usb4, big battery dock, egpu dock and integrated dgpu. My use case: get up to 64gb VRAM for LLMs in a way that makes both my phone, my tablet my desktop and my laptop irrelevant. Not wasting any more money on garbage until chinese manufacturers get their light bulbs on.
buy miniforum docking station with oculinc, it is possible and cheaper, but as for me it is the most convenient, and any mini PC in which there are 2 connectors for nvme connectors in one of which we put m2 adapter to oculinc. The card itself and the power supply unit at least every day change. For me this is the best option so far
Would you try the SGWZONE Gaming & AI BOX eGPU Dock supposedly it has a 4060 in it and im wondering if its worth it. With only 8vram seems low when rog ally x has 16 vram
is there any pocket ones yet with windows? Probably something with display out for a TV or monitor. Next time i travel or something ill grab one of these. Think there is issue with the fans i get. Whatever.
It's the same thing because they both have the same chip the Z extreme chip so whatever that Ally X is kicking out it'll be the same thing on the legion go
@@85crazytechlaz can I ask you something because the Legion go can run a little different because of the performance boost by using an EGPU because somehow the legend go wins better than the ROG ally x
@@Russiangamerpro2021 I mean the only thing different about the Ally X is the Rams and the battery they both have the same chip the Z extreme but if you modify the performance of it and you put some scripts on it like fixing things here and there then yeah it could do better than the Ally X for sure no matter it has more Rams it doesn't matter because that's what I did with my Legion go I'm part of a discord there where my boys and me like we help people out that have like these handheld PCs mainly the ally or the Legion go and my boy would do like some scripts to make their handheld perform like wayyyyy better then it will stand alone you know
This is really cool and all to see, but it diminishes its purpose as a portable gaming device. Nonetheless I do believe once these devices reaches their obsolescence, this GPU dock would really be useful to extend its lifespan.
I think the only thing missing from Khadas Graphic was a space to insert an SSD, like some docks have. Ok, it could be due to the bus bandwidth, but it would still be a nice feature.
I was about to get the GPD G1 for my Legion, but considering the price difference and the return in performance, you made me get the Mind Graphics 😅. Now, make a tear down video of it! Curious to see how this 4060 is placed there and whether would be possible to replace it for something else in the future :)
The price is insane for what you are getting. Yes it's small but you can get an entire desktop with a 4060ti for $1100. I like to see a bake off between the Mind Graphics and the ASUS XG mobile 3080.
@@JerwinAngelo I don't think the plug and play bit is really a big deal as many people make it. It's not a big hurdle to take 30 seconds to turn your device off before connecting/disconnecting with Oculink. It just offers much better performance and latency because there's no added protocols past PCIE, and it's simple/affordable for a manufacturer to implement.
Handhelds are cool, but imagine having a tablet with ryzen ai 9 370 hx or new Intel lunar lake with Intel arc v140 igpu. Like minisforum v3 but with better battery and better igpu. You can game, use it for work / school, watch Videos late at night, very portable. I am sure this is the future and not notebooks.
+ turning off the handheld screen (or assign the integrated gpu to it) should result in better performances as the USB connection is dedicated to the eGPU (no need for a video stream back to the handheld)
Geez… this cost $1100 on Amazon for the 16gb, $1000 for the 8gb. Could you do a review on the sgwzone 4060 gaming & AI box instead? That one cost $700 and might be a little more in my budget..
Hey ! Nice video, i'm interested in buying an eGPU, for the price point, I would be glad if you make a video testing the eGPU SGWZone gaming & AI. It's from China and not so expensive for an RTX 4060 too ! But seems more portable. Thanks !
@@armandcharbonnier2702 it's great i got the 4060 version it's not ti. The 4060 mobile and desktop are basically the same. It's super small so size is great and it's upgradable they are coming with better Nvidia graphics for it before the new year. It's just a little loud and that gives me some anxiety it's only thing I don't like
@@DARKvoid26 I've read that the GPD G1 and Onexegpu should be even louder. Can you confirm this? And is there a way to reduce the volume, like by lowering or fixing the MHz of the eGPU?
And now handhelds have eGPU interests. Xplayer and Asus have things like that. Us Steam Deckers... We have Valve's official Dock for whatever special thing it does. Upscaling or something. 😮
Thank you for noting/showing the native performance so we can have a baseline to compare to. Shame that the 4060 didn't perform a little better, but it is running over Thunderbolt so can't complain too much. 🍻🍻
This egpu costs a kidney and a half i think ill stick to my thunderbolt egpu with a rx 6600xt and just make a case or make it more portable/thin the egpu since its using a atx psu
Most egpus don't make sense it's better just buying a new gaming pc with a graphics card than buying a egpu. They really need to come up with cheaper prices even most barebone docks are dumb and over priced. I don't get how 99.9% of these ain't on clearance
The reality of it is this: if you are not talking about Oculink or USB4 2.0, you're not really saying anything. This is false advertising. The stuttering that you get when playing a modern game at higher sayings is atrocious and disrespectful on USB4. I wonder why he never highlights this point, as much as he makes videos on egpu's...🤔
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Honestly, these graphics docks make a lot more sense for handhelds than they do the miniPCs. You get the convenience of playing games on the go, but then you can also come home, plug it in and get better graphics while playing on the big screen!
I agree, I've always treated my rog ally like a nintendo switch and i think that's where it really shines. Getting home and ploping it into an external gpu just makes sense
@@AWriterWanderingI am pleased with it so far
I have made my Ally X as an all in one PC paired with my 4070Ti Super 16GB on Razer Core X. I dont have to install gaming & productivity software on multiple PC and I can game on the go unlike a gaming laptop. I also have a workstation and laptop setup but my go to now is Ally X.
Agree these handhelds are no where near laptop desktop level in terms of performance
Since its apu graphics they use instead of dedicated
For sure...I have been thinking about that for sometime now
$999 for the RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB, and $1099 for the 16 GB. That's around $500 just for the slow Thunderbolt enclosure and power. Far better options out there.
That makes the PS5 pro look damn near affordable sheesh.
Xgmobile
@GR8_S8N GPD G1 , onexplayer eGpu Aya néo eGpu (soon), sgwzone eGpu 4060 650dollars
Pointless imo, just build a gaming machine and have the handheld for gaming on the go/portability.
What options?
I hope when Valve releases a Deck 2 that they give us either USB4 or Oculink with it.
i will be a little heartbroken if they dont lol it makes way too much sense.
@@lavender188 IKR? On a sidenote, I know that the Switch 2 obviously won't have this feature exactly but it'd still be awesome if they at least provide something with the Switch 2 dock that boosts performance drastically.
@@MegaManNeo that would be super neat but i wouldnt hold my breath on it. nintendo loves cheaping out on hardware. i was laughably naiive to hope for something like this when the switch released. kinda glad they never did though it would probably make emulating it a lot more complicated.
we still have at least another year before steam even say something , at the momemt last news about steamdeck 2 i heard was they have AI division for frame upscaling/framegen for new APU from amd and they working on it for past 12/9 months , i would be suprice if Steam deck 2 would be announce befero 2026
I bought it and i use it with my rog ally x and it just amazing. I want to say there is not noise when I play on rog ally screen. It's just awesome! It's very expensive but if you can buy it, let's do it!
Nooo. Thank YOUUU for making this video ! I'm gannaa buy the Legion Go 2 next year and buy this
At first glance, I thought this literally defeats the purpose of a handheld. Then again, I've encountered couple of forks who claim they actually use their handhelds as their main PC. So it might be viable option for some who doesn't have main desktop PC.
@@dirtiestharry6551 Yep, that's me! My ROG Ally X is my main PC as well, and my eGPU is with the ADP UT3G with a 3080Ti
I daily my steam deck so I could see this being cool. The problem is if I wanted better graphics at this price I would just build myself a rig.
Handhelds are a great mini PCs/second screens. This loses some of the size advantage, but if you travel a lot it makes sense to have a dock at home for your demanding games and just take the handheld on the road. I haven't invested in an EGPU dock yet and not sure if I will, but the Legion Go proved to be an excellent replacement for my PC (even if it's a pretty underwhelming handheld).
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It’s just like with the Nintendo switch. You get the convenience of playing it on the go, but then when you get home, you can throw it on a dock and get better graphics.
Okay you never mention how expensive this shit is
This is a very awesome set up! Good form factor as well. I will probably pick something like this up!!
I don't care how you use it $1,000 for 4060 TI is insane, on principle alone. Even if it does have a cheap internal power supply.
They really should have made a version of this that just had the PCI-E slot. Even if it was twice as big, this would have been the upgrade people who had a Razer Chroma dock were looking for.
Why on earth are these docks $500 with no gpu? The sum of the parts screams these should be highly profitable at 150ish with no gpu.
1000 bucks? FFS I’m starting to think this channel is aimed at Trust Fund Babies.
The onex offers a built in m.2 slot for extra ssd storage. I wonder if they'll offer an ssd expansion card for their mindlink slot considering i'll be using thunderbolt 4
What do you think of this vs onexgpu? They aren't too far off from each other in price (without discounts)
Aren´t you losing some performance by having the internal display enabled? Doesn´t it gives the USB4 link an unnecessary overhead? I remember that for EGPUs, it is advisable to just use the external display, connected to the EGPU.
Regards,
RC
What is that stat box in left top corner of your screen. It’s not gamescope. What is that?
@@starship_01 i think it might be msi afterburner
Hello @ETA PRIME, could you create a video featuring the eGPU Dock with an RTX 4060 from SGWZONE?
What is the best value eGpu on the market that would be compatible with an MSI Claw?
For that price, it needs to be more than a one trick pony. Can it connect to other handhelds, laptops, other uses? Great video, as always.
Yes, it has thunderbolt 4 and oculink. Also works with their proprietary mini-pc
Its a dock and was initially intended for media editing
I wonder if you get higher frame rates if you turn make the monitor the only display. Like it turns off the rog ally.
Question whi did you let run original image on Ally ? is it not taking that bandwith >? would u gain a few more fps if u would disable main screen on Ally ?>
Привет. А будет эта внешняя видеокарта работать с Snapdragon X PZ13?
Does the lack of OCulink not make it a bit expensive for what you actually get?
5 in 1 modular mini pc with attachable tablet screen, usb4, big battery dock, egpu dock and integrated dgpu. My use case: get up to 64gb VRAM for LLMs in a way that makes both my phone, my tablet my desktop and my laptop irrelevant.
Not wasting any more money on garbage until chinese manufacturers get their light bulbs on.
buy miniforum docking station with oculinc, it is possible and cheaper, but as for me it is the most convenient, and any mini PC in which there are 2 connectors for nvme connectors in one of which we put m2 adapter to oculinc. The card itself and the power supply unit at least every day change. For me this is the best option so far
Very expensive. 1159 dollars in preorder
Hoping that by 2025 everyone will launch with USB-C 4 2.0 or Thunderbolt 5! We need all the juice from those eGPUs!
Would you try the SGWZONE Gaming & AI BOX eGPU Dock supposedly it has a 4060 in it and im wondering if its worth it. With only 8vram seems low when rog ally x has 16 vram
is there any pocket ones yet with windows? Probably something with display out for a TV or monitor.
Next time i travel or something ill grab one of these.
Think there is issue with the fans i get. Whatever.
Shouldn't I have turned off the Rog Ally X's screen and just left it on the monitor as this usually gives better boosts?
At more than double the MSRP of the 4060 TI 16GB, I'm out...
Add less performance and too much stuttering on top of that insane price...🙄
Run it on the Legion Go
It's the same thing because they both have the same chip the Z extreme chip so whatever that Ally X is kicking out it'll be the same thing on the legion go
@@85crazytechlaz can I ask you something because the Legion go can run a little different because of the performance boost by using an EGPU because somehow the legend go wins better than the ROG ally x
@@Russiangamerpro2021 I mean the only thing different about the Ally X is the Rams and the battery they both have the same chip the Z extreme but if you modify the performance of it and you put some scripts on it like fixing things here and there then yeah it could do better than the Ally X for sure no matter it has more Rams it doesn't matter because that's what I did with my Legion go I'm part of a discord there where my boys and me like we help people out that have like these handheld PCs mainly the ally or the Legion go and my boy would do like some scripts to make their handheld perform like wayyyyy better then it will stand alone you know
@@85crazytechlaz well it’s because I watch one video he said the Legion go wins by using the 4060 if you don’t believe me search it up
Lego can't run Nier automata lmao
Steam Deck in the corner watching these bad boys be like: o_O
I would love to know if the OneXFly works well like this too.
Yeah id does about this same
This is really cool and all to see, but it diminishes its purpose as a portable gaming device. Nonetheless I do believe once these devices reaches their obsolescence, this GPU dock would really be useful to extend its lifespan.
The aoostar egpu dock is the best option. $200 and get a 4070 ti super and it should run you under $1000
it looks the part if you like small neat and tucked away,but the price is insane
I think the only thing missing from Khadas Graphic was a space to insert an SSD, like some docks have. Ok, it could be due to the bus bandwidth, but it would still be a nice feature.
Thanks for the review! Could you also include other game titles such as Street Fighter 6? I would love how it fairs with fighting games too. Thanks!
I would like to see what the GO could do I was thinking about getting one and an EGPU
I was about to get the GPD G1 for my Legion, but considering the price difference and the return in performance, you made me get the Mind Graphics 😅.
Now, make a tear down video of it! Curious to see how this 4060 is placed there and whether would be possible to replace it for something else in the future :)
Will that work for steam deck
I would love this to fit into a 10in laptop bag
Would love to see the Legion Go with this thing, thanks!
Hey ETA could you do a video with it hooked up to a Legion Go and would you buy this or wait for the ONEXGPU 2 ?
The price is insane for what you are getting. Yes it's small but you can get an entire desktop with a 4060ti for $1100. I like to see a bake off between the Mind Graphics and the ASUS XG mobile 3080.
I'm putting my dough on the mind graphics.
Salut, si tu veux de meilleur performances il faut desactiver l'ecran de la console et mettre tout sur ecran 2...
Wouldn't performance improve if you just used the external display? Disable the ally x screen. Seems lazy
These handhelds need Oculink, it works way better than Thunderbolt when it comes down to GPUs.
Oculink isn't really plug and play. Future handhelds should have TB5.
@@JerwinAngelo I don't think the plug and play bit is really a big deal as many people make it. It's not a big hurdle to take 30 seconds to turn your device off before connecting/disconnecting with Oculink. It just offers much better performance and latency because there's no added protocols past PCIE, and it's simple/affordable for a manufacturer to implement.
Handhelds are cool, but imagine having a tablet with ryzen ai 9 370 hx or new Intel lunar lake with Intel arc v140 igpu. Like minisforum v3 but with better battery and better igpu. You can game, use it for work / school, watch Videos late at night, very portable. I am sure this is the future and not notebooks.
Hey man, please may you do a video on windows X-lite on these handhelds to see how they run?
Can u try dock with mini pc in game on 1440p ultra resolution . 🖥️ 🤔
What happens when you connect the mind and the console?
Is it better than others GPU box?
What about blender 3d rendering on nvidia e gpu
What grip are you using on your Ally X? Looks comfy
Jsaux Mod case
Would love to see this with older handhelds like onxplayer s1 . Will it give it a new life
How does it work with the legion go ?
Can we switch off the display on the handheld? Or is it required to always be on? Thanks for the video, it's an interesting idea for sure
+ turning off the handheld screen (or assign the integrated gpu to it) should result in better performances as the USB connection is dedicated to the eGPU (no need for a video stream back to the handheld)
My prediction the next generation consoles will all be Switch like portable dockable. PS Vita2/6
I wonder if valve will make a Steam Deck 2 with an optional you dock. It would be like a real powerful Linux switch? I guess I can dream lol.
Maybe I missed it. But you said expensive but how much is it
I hate the latency on my lenovo legion go plugged into the usb hub with HDMI so this does make sense.
Geez… this cost $1100 on Amazon for the 16gb, $1000 for the 8gb. Could you do a review on the sgwzone 4060 gaming & AI box instead? That one cost $700 and might be a little more in my budget..
I've got the xgm 4090 and it's worth every penny
Can u run it legion go no external monitor only go screen?
Hey ! Nice video, i'm interested in buying an eGPU, for the price point, I would be glad if you make a video testing the eGPU SGWZone gaming & AI. It's from China and not so expensive for an RTX 4060 too ! But seems more portable. Thanks !
I got it it's loud considering this or something else
@@DARKvoid26 what about performance is it similar ? Maybe the OneX. I like it portable, this one is kinda big :)
@@armandcharbonnier2702 it's great i got the 4060 version it's not ti. The 4060 mobile and desktop are basically the same. It's super small so size is great and it's upgradable they are coming with better Nvidia graphics for it before the new year. It's just a little loud and that gives me some anxiety it's only thing I don't like
@@DARKvoid26 I've read that the GPD G1 and Onexegpu should be even louder. Can you confirm this? And is there a way to reduce the volume, like by lowering or fixing the MHz of the eGPU?
I am holding off handheld PCs and eGPU until we get a handheld with Oculink, and and an Oculink dock that looks nice
OneXPlayer X1 and OneXGPU both has OCuLink, just pricy.
@@devicexd1326 oh didn't know that lemme check them, thanks
@devicexd1326 that's huge 🥲 I need to rephrase my wish to include max screen size 😄 thanks though will keep an eye on them, there's hooe 😊
And now handhelds have eGPU interests. Xplayer and Asus have things like that. Us Steam Deckers... We have Valve's official Dock for whatever special thing it does. Upscaling or something. 😮
Try it on your Framework laptop. I think you will have one. I have the old 11th Gen Intel in a case because I updated mine to AMD.
Try reviewing PlaytronOS ETA, bu it still aplha phase
I would like to see this egpu on the ayaneo 2s
It would be better to use some amd grafic card like rx7700xt. There is SAM may work. And rx7700xt is chipper, then 4060ti with 16 Gb
Legion go please! I want to buy the gpd g1 or the onexgpu but i cant make the choice.
what is the input lag on this thing ?
How loud does it get?
Would this work on my Commodore 64?
Vs gpd g1?
You should do a video on the SGWZone egpu.
I got it it's loud considering this or something else
@@DARKvoid26 does it perform well? I’m considering getting one for my legion go, I’d rather buy that one since it’s $700
The go I would like to see
Can't wait for the Acer Nitro Blaze 7! 😆
your voice fry is fucking killing me dude
I prefer gpd g1 with 7600m for 599 or the next week realese onexgpu2 with 7800m for 899
Wanna see the Legion Go
Be Kool to have a handheld that could do this by itself.. otherwise my wells get a gaming pc.. or Xbox or ps5
couldn't you make your own 4080 dock for the same price lmao
This is a Mini PC or a eGPU?
I'll be waiting for rog ally 2...
Please run it on the legion go
Thank you for noting/showing the native performance so we can have a baseline to compare to. Shame that the 4060 didn't perform a little better, but it is running over Thunderbolt so can't complain too much. 🍻🍻
$1099 nets you a PC and the 4060ti 16gb.
Exactly, pointless. Just get a gaming pc and use the handheld on the go/portability.
This egpu costs a kidney and a half i think ill stick to my thunderbolt egpu with a rx 6600xt and just make a case or make it more portable/thin the egpu since its using a atx psu
wow only a 1000 usd!!! basicly pocket money
Most egpus don't make sense it's better just buying a new gaming pc with a graphics card than buying a egpu. They really need to come up with cheaper prices even most barebone docks are dumb and over priced. I don't get how 99.9% of these ain't on clearance
Hardpass at that price.
That 16gig variant is very unnecessary should have used 8 gig model
I like your videos but you never speak about the cost of these devices you talk about.
should have used the legion go
Foghorn Leghorn
The reality of it is this: if you are not talking about Oculink or USB4 2.0, you're not really saying anything. This is false advertising. The stuttering that you get when playing a modern game at higher sayings is atrocious and disrespectful on USB4.
I wonder why he never highlights this point, as much as he makes videos on egpu's...🤔