We have not experienced the Ioniq 5 issues you were here in Buffalo, NY (similar climate). Could be your loaner has issues or the amperage differences in NA vs Scandanavia. We do experience speeds around 190 kw in winter (on a 350) with preconditioning and 240 kw in the summer. We have done 10-80% under 18 mins actually (at 75F). Usually about 22-23 mins. I do agree the curve isn't great. I have a F-150 Lightning and it peaks at 180 kw in the real world but always sits at around 120-140 regardless of temperature. A consistent, flat curve is definitely most important vs peak speeds.
We finally see what Volvo_Kristian looks like! He's so laid back in this video, not complaining about anything. He must have completed his anger management program.
Hehe 🤣 after my anger management program I got a tip for a relaxing medicine that would help me. So went out and bought it. Sensus infotainment and Plug-In Hybrid 🤣 In the tight body of a S60 Polestar Engineered. Solved everything 🤣
I forgot to add, there is a trick. If it's super cold, navigate to the charger before the charger that you need, then right before you get there cancel the waypoint and navigate to the charger that you really want with a new waypoint. That way you get a double preconditioning since it will turn back on and lift the battery the rest of the way for the new charging waypoint. Sadly, you can see that the preconditioning is on, but you can not see the that minimum cell temp is up to 21C, where you get peak speeds. I use an OBDII reader and the Car Scanner Pro app to see the minimum cell temp.
Hi Kris, you are just going to need a OBD Bluetooth adaptor and check those battery temps, seems that is what the issue is Ioniq does not like either to hot or too cold battery temps.
Wow totally didn't expect that ending to the race, though if you look at it independently, i.e you didn't wait for him to get charging at the first charging session, the outcome would have been a totally different story. Great race, looking forward to more.
Yeah maybe. However with another car approaching he would still loose time, because the charger would split the charge. I was lucky to get the charger by myself 👌 I was actually 10-15 min ahead but because a potential critical charging mistake by myself I lost that advantage. Since I had to drive slower and slower towards my last charging stop. Quite scary at the end 🤣
@@volvo_kristian Glad you responded as you just reminded me I needed to check your channel for your side of the race. It was a good one and 🤣 looks like Kris met his match with someone who's willing to also go to 0% Charge.
Interesting test! But I just don’t get why you are getting those results in terms of charging. I’m not having those problems in my Ioniq 5 and preheating works so well for me - also on long trips. I totally agree with you in terms of user friendliness of preheating and route planning is really low. But your experience with so slow charging speeds is just so different from my own in similar temps, so I’m leaning towards something might be wrong with that press car? Perhaps ask them to check?
Agree! We have an Ioniq 5 and lives in the north of Sweden. Never experienced anything close to what Kris experience around the I5. In this video I all of a sudden starts to think; does he even try to get it to work? Ofcourse I don't think so, but this is everything else than what I've experienced.
@@KevinT3141 I hear you. But you should not try to not get it to work either. I mean, I'm not a pro. I've never experienced anything like that on the same spec car. And hear me out here, I really like Kris and he's work. I'm not accusing him for anything. But seriously, I can't see how people fail with the preheating. With that said, do I 100 procent enjoy the infotainment and everything around it on the I5? No No No, there are really weak spots there. But again: my reaction is based on my 10000km of driving in subzero conditions this winter, never had a failed preheating session, constantly seeing figures well over 200kw ☺️.
@@Johanwiks I haven't had a failed one either. I think I'm somewhere between 15-20 HPC sessions since November with speeds reaching +200kw every time after 3-5 mins charging. Included in this is a +600km trip to Berlin each way in similar temps as Kris is testing. Battery was able to preheat as expected and didn't heat throttle either...
I have the ioniq5 and get about 185kw peak at 0°C with preconditioning... but I agree that the enabling of preconditioning is cumbersome: you can't do it manually and sometimes it even decides to not start even with battery above 30%. Hyundai should definitely rework this.
That's as expected for the Ioniq 5. It does not preheat below 20 % SOC. Coldgates incredible with cold battery and heats slow at charging sites due to high ∆temp.
I have 32,000 miles on my US spec Ioniq 5. It has been road tripped across the United States round trip twice. It has never thermal throttled. Not once. Maybe it was a problem before January 2022, but it isn't one now. I run an OBDII reader and Car Scanner Pro to monitor battery temps. The battery runs stone cold which is why it takes a while for the preheating to bring the battery up to temp. In the summer the battery temps are almost identical to the outside air temp, which in almost every case below the optimal charging temps, I wish I could attach the photo that I took on Saturday of my Ioniq 5 pulling 240kW at 54% SOC with an outside temp of 38F or 3.3C.
Cold gate is a joke naming. The Ioniq 5 charged faster without pre heating in worse conditions than other cars would do in perfect condition. 😅 Take the ID4 for example, which may only reach 80kW some times when the Ioniq 5 would be limited to 135-150kW when cold. There’s really nothing to complain here and now preheating is available anyway :)
800V batteries doesn't really play nice with 400V chargers. Read som where that Ioniq 5 only can charge at 100kW on a 400V charger, not sure if that's is correct, but your video sems to confirm it.
You will only reach the 240W iounty chargers since the 800V battery power back converters in Kia/Hyundai is not that strong that Porches and Audis 800V converters. I am not that sure for this
Thanks. Very interesting test and it tells you not to only compare cars from their specs. Remind Volvo-Kristian that in the beginning of 2024 the door will be opened to WORLD of VOLVO. It is locaded not very far from Liseberg and visible from the E6.
I think you have to have 20%+ in order for the pre-heat to work. Since you had less than that, even when you pulled in to the Ionity station, the battery is not priming. But yeah.. I think the car acts a little bit strange. I have the EV6 and get the pre-heat update next week - gonna be interesting to see how that works.
probably not working cause its a Hyundai lol plenty of other cars can preheat even at less than 10%. You get what you pay for people and korean cars are cheaper cause they cut corners.
If you look at the ADAC tests of both cars and the loadingcurve, the ioniq loods in 10 minutes 35,8 kwh, in 20 min 59,7 and in 30 min 67 kwh, the Volvo 19,8, 37,1 and 48,5. A colleague drives a Ioniq 5 and lots of times hits 230 kwh at a Ionity charger. Very contradictory.
My 2023 Volvo C40 has been causing me trouble lately. When I'm driving at 65 mph, the steering wheel vibrates very badly, making it quite annoying to drive, not sure if the steering wheel vibration cost the accident or not. Unfortunately, the dealership informed me that they cannot do anything about it. If you're considering purchasing a Volvo C40, I advise you to be careful and aware of this issue. Additionally, I've been experiencing frequent failures in the data signal almost every week. To restore the signal, I have to manually turn the SIM data off and on again, which is quite inconvenient.
Man, that car wasn't made for you. Running into a charging queue, then only finding a 150kW charger, even the glass broke on the top of the car... Some things just aren't meant to be. Get a Volvo 😂
This was a car test, not an app test as we talk about in the conclusion at the end. We are are testing car against car as the it is built and delivered.
So, I don't understand why you stopped to get his charging started. This is all part of road tripping and you easily gave up the 5 minutes right there. If you actually owned the Ioniq 5, you would be more familiar with the car and you would know that 60kW is not a normal charging speed for the Ioniq 5 under any condition so it must be the chargers. In 32,000 miles my 2022 Ioniq 5 with the 77kWH pack has never thermal throttled, even road tripping through Texas in the summer. Two days ago I charged at 3 degrees C and got 240kW at 54% SOC out of a brand new Electrify America 3560kW charger. I can say after close to 200 DCFC's there are only 2 cars made that can charge faster than the Ioniq 5, the Taycan and the E-tron GT. Somer cars have faster peak rates, but none have better curves.
"So, I don't understand why you stopped to get his charging started" Because I am an experienced EV driver with close to 250 000 km (150 000 miles) in EVs in the past three years. Kristian is new to this EV thing and doesn't have all the apps and RF-ID cards etc I have. This was a race between the cars, not between the drivers (though that does come into play, it is not the main event). "If you actually owned the Ioniq 5, you would be more familiar with the car and you would know that 60kW is not a normal charging speed for the Ioniq 5 under any condition so it must be the chargers." Unfortunately I cannot own all the cars I test, that would be close to 60 different EVs the past three years. With that being said I probably have close to 10-12 000km experience in the Ioniq 5/EV6, so I am barley a n00b. Also I am very aware that 69kW is not close to normal speed with E-GMP, but it is most likely not the charger as I have had multiple issues with slow charging in this car the past almost two weeks (ref all my other videos on this car). "In 32,000 miles my 2022 Ioniq 5 with the 77kWH pack has never thermal throttled, even road tripping through Texas in the summer" Well I have, the car I tested a year and half ago when they came out. Another reviewer had the exact same issues with the exact same car. But good for you! "I can say after close to 200 DCFC's there are only 2 cars made that can charge faster than the Ioniq 5, the Taycan and the E-tron GT. Somer cars have faster peak rates, but none have better curves." In my experience and as I have documented here on the channel in multiple videos I cannot say the same thing. When the Ioniq 5 does work properly the charging speed and time is amazing, but for me it hasn't been reliable. Other cars I have tested and driven on long trips may have "worse" stats, but have been far more reliable. But I do agree when it comes to the Taycan and E-Tron GT. As a current Taycan CT owner there is no scenario where this car does not deliver amazing charging speed when the battery is above 30c. And as a former E-Tron GT owner I can say the same thing about that car, a car I have tested in extreme conditions and it still delivers every time.
@@KrisRifa I have been watching your channel since I first go interested in EV’s. I also watch Bjorn’s channel. I wonder if you think the pause that the BMS takes around 82% is cold-gating? Around 82% the BMS slows the charge down to a crawl while it checks the cells. After 2-3 minutes it runs all its checks it starts hauling again. In my car 80-90% takes 10 minutes even with the break. I have never DCFC’d to 100%,so I can’t answer that. You can see a 10-80% charge real time on my channel. Keep up the good content.
Preheat will not work under 20 % SOC. So, when you drive around or go to 5 % SOC you will start charging with a cold battery. Try charge more often and you will get to your destination faster. When you do a comparison or a rewiew of a car, it helps to read the manual.
He actually plays it by the book leading up to the first stop. That one should have been a good session and it’s odd to see it drop in speed that quickly. I think something is wrong with that car…
I am ok with the test, but since you did not fed the car with 800v juice, it is totally invalid. Real world ok, the info system is not good ok. But as a user I never had a so bad experience. Faulty car ? Don’t know.
Imagine being on a real road trip and you pull in without enough juice to get anywhere else and the charge queue is 6 cars deep and you still have hours of driving ahead of you. I was so bummed when I could afford an EV about a year and a half ago when I got a PHEV and nearly every EV video I watch makes me think that was the best thing that could have happened.
No problem with my TM3 LR RWD in winter !!! 2x425 km with 6m/s wind et 2°c result : 19.6 kwh/100 ( 4 in the car !) TESLA = efficiency (preheating top speed 255 / 168 kwh on V3&V2)
The Model 3 is a different category car, much smaller and hence more aerodynamic. Model Y would have been the one to compare against... And quoting consumption values on totally different routes/conditions is pointless!
My Ioniq 5 pulled 240kW at 54% SOC wit a 3C Outside air temp, 2 days ago. It did 20%to 80% in 16 minutes on an Electrify America 350kW charger. On a EA 150kW charger which is actually underrated, it will start at 175kW and tapper to 150kW dropping to 85kW at 75%. It takes about 24 minutes from 10-80%. I think EV's are complicated enough that if I jumped in your Model 3 and used Superchargers on a road trip like this, I would be much slower than you are. Kris does not know when to expect more from a charger and when he actually has a car problem. Even stone cold the Ioniq 5 AWD never pulls less than 75kW. He should have unplugged.
Model 3 is efficient, but just have a look at the real consumption, don't just look at the numbers,. Tesla cheats a bit. Yes it is more efficient, especially during motorway trips. A Model Y is slightly more efficient too. But the real consumption of those non Tesla cars is not as higher as you think. A RWD Model Y commonly indicate 15 kwh/100 average, mixed usage. In reality the calculator disagrees. Barely 330km is possible in winter, average. If 57 kwh usable, it means more 17,2 kwh/100. That is not bad, but not a miracle at all.
@@KrisRifa just seems funny that the challenges with cold charging and preheating are still there. As I have seen older cars with the update work better in colder weather.
@@KrisRifa thanks Kris glad you got it sorted. 100% agree this should just work and be simple. I didn't realise how complex it was. Still confused why the battery doesn't warm up enough on long runs as well.....
@@KrisRifa Well, we didn’t see the Volvo software this time to compare. I like this kind of video though - would be great to see more like this one, especially if the other driver can also show their in-car experience too 👍
There was one driver error and one “error” by the navigation system. The NAV is part of the car so a strange decision done by it is on the car, not the driver and there as real world as it gets. What world do you live on where errors don’t happen?
Ioniq is better than Volvo. Kia and Genesis smoke Volvo. Only 5 min difference after 7.5 hours driving is nothing. 18m charging, V2L Ioniq > 40m charging Volvo Finnish with 6% more battery Ioniq > Volvo
@@lONlQ On paper the Ioniq 5 should be better and faster, but in THIS REAL WORLD test it isn't. But just ignore the videographic evidence and continue believing what the manufacturers claim. Just watch all my Ioniq 5 videos, the car never delivers what they claim. So I am not the one who is delusional, instead of just believing what the manufacturers claim I am actually out there doing the hard work and testing these cars in the real world.
@@KrisRifa Did you fast charge? I appreciate and respect your hard work for information but you made a comedy video that 40m charging is faster than 18m charging in real world test. What does Ioniq5 not delivering as paper? I don't have much time to watch i'm just curious please tell me dude.
@@lONlQ Did I fast charge? I have done 250 00km in electric cars since 2020. I've travelled on tons of long trips across Norway and Europe in electric cars from Audi, Mercedes, Polestar, Tesla and Porsche - what do you think? Watch the video and all you questions are answered. Its not a comedy video, but a real world test. Seriously you sound like somebody who has never ever driven an EV dude....
It sounds like it was a tie. After 7 1/2 hours a 5 min difference is nothing. Especially if the “loser” arrives with 6% more battery. Let’s do that volvo be a Tesla model Y
@Øyvind Stafsnes I could easily race against a Tesla.. as long as I don't have to drive it 🤣 Then I would rather take the bus.. For me Tesla are a one trick pony.. Or said in another way. It's a awesome EV, but not a awesome car.. In my subjective opinion. But I totally understand why so many purchase Tesla's. It's just not my cup of tea.
@@volvo_kristian why does every RUclipsr do long range races or tests. The Tesla will win. If it’s about driving around town then do that test. Btw. You don’t sound like a fanboy at all. I have a model Y and a v60 polestar wagon with the full R suspension. Guess which one had a smoother ride. (It’s not the volvo, but it’s fun to drive anyway )
Ahhhhh didn't see that coming. I didn't think the Volvo would come out on top. Great race
We have not experienced the Ioniq 5 issues you were here in Buffalo, NY (similar climate). Could be your loaner has issues or the amperage differences in NA vs Scandanavia.
We do experience speeds around 190 kw in winter (on a 350) with preconditioning and 240 kw in the summer. We have done 10-80% under 18 mins actually (at 75F). Usually about 22-23 mins.
I do agree the curve isn't great. I have a F-150 Lightning and it peaks at 180 kw in the real world but always sits at around 120-140 regardless of temperature. A consistent, flat curve is definitely most important vs peak speeds.
We finally see what Volvo_Kristian looks like! He's so laid back in this video, not complaining about anything. He must have completed his anger management program.
You do?? Isn't his face blurred??!! 🙈🙈 Oh no!!
Hehe 🤣 after my anger management program I got a tip for a relaxing medicine that would help me. So went out and bought it. Sensus infotainment and Plug-In Hybrid 🤣 In the tight body of a S60 Polestar Engineered. Solved everything 🤣
So true, I hear you😉
I forgot to add, there is a trick. If it's super cold, navigate to the charger before the charger that you need, then right before you get there cancel the waypoint and navigate to the charger that you really want with a new waypoint. That way you get a double preconditioning since it will turn back on and lift the battery the rest of the way for the new charging waypoint. Sadly, you can see that the preconditioning is on, but you can not see the that minimum cell temp is up to 21C, where you get peak speeds. I use an OBDII reader and the Car Scanner Pro app to see the minimum cell temp.
When Kris gets to pro level I am sure he will get an OBD, too 😇
@@abraxastulammo9940 I'm sure he has one. He just needs to plug it in.
There are also 4 x 300 kW chargers at Circle K in Kungälv, 3 minute detour.
A little squirrelly.
Interesting comparison! More of this please.
I like this test! Real world comparison.
Great! Hopefully we’ll make more of these!
Well the real world would be a trip to the grocery store and back :).
After this, I just love my XC40, even more! Looking forward to take it on a trip to Ireland this summer :-)
Hi Kris, you are just going to need a OBD Bluetooth adaptor and check those battery temps, seems that is what the issue is Ioniq does not like either to hot or too cold battery temps.
Great to see a race by my two favourite RUclipsrs!! 👍😄
Wow totally didn't expect that ending to the race, though if you look at it independently, i.e you didn't wait for him to get charging at the first charging session, the outcome would have been a totally different story.
Great race, looking forward to more.
Yeah maybe. However with another car approaching he would still loose time, because the charger would split the charge. I was lucky to get the charger by myself 👌 I was actually 10-15 min ahead but because a potential critical charging mistake by myself I lost that advantage. Since I had to drive slower and slower towards my last charging stop. Quite scary at the end 🤣
@@volvo_kristian Glad you responded as you just reminded me I needed to check your channel for your side of the race.
It was a good one and 🤣 looks like Kris met his match with someone who's willing to also go to 0% Charge.
@Cardin Smith Hehe 🤣 Yeah got exciting at the end..
Interesting test!
But I just don’t get why you are getting those results in terms of charging. I’m not having those problems in my Ioniq 5 and preheating works so well for me - also on long trips. I totally agree with you in terms of user friendliness of preheating and route planning is really low.
But your experience with so slow charging speeds is just so different from my own in similar temps, so I’m leaning towards something might be wrong with that press car? Perhaps ask them to check?
Agree! We have an Ioniq 5 and lives in the north of Sweden. Never experienced anything close to what Kris experience around the I5. In this video I all of a sudden starts to think; does he even try to get it to work? Ofcourse I don't think so, but this is everything else than what I've experienced.
@@Johanwiks The thing is, you shouldn't have to _try_ to get something to work, it should just... work.
@@KevinT3141 I hear you. But you should not try to not get it to work either.
I mean, I'm not a pro. I've never experienced anything like that on the same spec car. And hear me out here, I really like Kris and he's work. I'm not accusing him for anything. But seriously, I can't see how people fail with the preheating.
With that said, do I 100 procent enjoy the infotainment and everything around it on the I5? No No No, there are really weak spots there. But again: my reaction is based on my 10000km of driving in subzero conditions this winter, never had a failed preheating session, constantly seeing figures well over 200kw ☺️.
@@Johanwiks I haven't had a failed one either. I think I'm somewhere between 15-20 HPC sessions since November with speeds reaching +200kw every time after 3-5 mins charging. Included in this is a +600km trip to Berlin each way in similar temps as Kris is testing. Battery was able to preheat as expected and didn't heat throttle either...
Awesome video Kris. Funny to see the charging struggle you had 🤣 Volvo for the win
Thanks for the awesome race dude! Can’t wait to beat you in the next one 😅😅🤩
@@KrisRifa Good luck 🤣 I'm unstoppable..
@@volvo_kristian hahaha 🤣🤣
I have the ioniq5 and get about 185kw peak at 0°C with preconditioning... but I agree that the enabling of preconditioning is cumbersome: you can't do it manually and sometimes it even decides to not start even with battery above 30%. Hyundai should definitely rework this.
Mycket trevlig recension. Är på g att köpa en volvo xc40 recharge. Musiken vad är det för skön låt?
That's as expected for the Ioniq 5. It does not preheat below 20 % SOC. Coldgates incredible with cold battery and heats slow at charging sites due to high ∆temp.
I have 32,000 miles on my US spec Ioniq 5. It has been road tripped across the United States round trip twice. It has never thermal throttled. Not once. Maybe it was a problem before January 2022, but it isn't one now. I run an OBDII reader and Car Scanner Pro to monitor battery temps. The battery runs stone cold which is why it takes a while for the preheating to bring the battery up to temp. In the summer the battery temps are almost identical to the outside air temp, which in almost every case below the optimal charging temps, I wish I could attach the photo that I took on Saturday of my Ioniq 5 pulling 240kW at 54% SOC with an outside temp of 38F or 3.3C.
Cold gate is a joke naming. The Ioniq 5 charged faster without pre heating in worse conditions than other cars would do in perfect condition. 😅 Take the ID4 for example, which may only reach 80kW some times when the Ioniq 5 would be limited to 135-150kW when cold. There’s really nothing to complain here and now preheating is available anyway :)
@@Seitenwerk Good, better, best!
800V batteries doesn't really play nice with 400V chargers. Read som where that Ioniq 5 only can charge at 100kW on a 400V charger, not sure if that's is correct, but your video sems to confirm it.
Great video and a close race! Interesting to see both sides!🙂
There's something wrong with that car. I have an EV6 and peaked at 222 kW yesterday on a 225 Recharge station.
You will only reach the 240W iounty chargers since the 800V battery power back converters in Kia/Hyundai is not that strong that Porches and Audis 800V converters. I am not that sure for this
Does the preheating give you higher consumption kwh/100km ?
And does the eventual increase differ between these EVs?
Thanks. Very interesting test and it tells you not to only compare cars from their specs. Remind Volvo-Kristian that in the beginning of 2024 the door will be opened to WORLD of VOLVO. It is locaded not very far from Liseberg and visible from the E6.
I think you have to have 20%+ in order for the pre-heat to work. Since you had less than that, even when you pulled in to the Ionity station, the battery is not priming. But yeah.. I think the car acts a little bit strange. I have the EV6 and get the pre-heat update next week - gonna be interesting to see how that works.
probably not working cause its a Hyundai lol plenty of other cars can preheat even at less than 10%. You get what you pay for people and korean cars are cheaper cause they cut corners.
If you look at the ADAC tests of both cars and the loadingcurve, the ioniq loods in 10 minutes 35,8 kwh, in 20 min 59,7 and in 30 min 67 kwh, the Volvo 19,8, 37,1 and 48,5. A colleague drives a Ioniq 5 and lots of times hits 230 kwh at a Ionity charger. Very contradictory.
The Scret for EV low consumption is Regen off and always coast
VolvoKristian's face reveal, at least to me! Nice video BTW
Thanks for the vid! If I can make a minor gripe, the music is much louder than you when you're talking, would prefer the opposite.
My 2023 Volvo C40 has been causing me trouble lately. When I'm driving at 65 mph, the steering wheel vibrates very badly, making it quite annoying to drive, not sure if the steering wheel vibration cost the accident or not. Unfortunately, the dealership informed me that they cannot do anything about it. If you're considering purchasing a Volvo C40, I advise you to be careful and aware of this issue.
Additionally, I've been experiencing frequent failures in the data signal almost every week. To restore the signal, I have to manually turn the SIM data off and on again, which is quite inconvenient.
vibration sounds like unbalanced wheels. I'd go to a wheel and tire shop to get my wheels balanced.
What speed did you drive the Volvo?
LOL cutting of that Nissan Leaf at the Shell station 🙈
Man, that car wasn't made for you. Running into a charging queue, then only finding a 150kW charger, even the glass broke on the top of the car... Some things just aren't meant to be. Get a Volvo 😂
8:17 You can plan for this if your app/navi tells actual occupancy (like chargefinder).
This was a car test, not an app test as we talk about in the conclusion at the end. We are are testing car against car as the it is built and delivered.
Or Tesla
Yes,, more of this. I like these videos. And haven’t watch it
Great!
Unexpected result, wow..
So, I don't understand why you stopped to get his charging started. This is all part of road tripping and you easily gave up the 5 minutes right there. If you actually owned the Ioniq 5, you would be more familiar with the car and you would know that 60kW is not a normal charging speed for the Ioniq 5 under any condition so it must be the chargers. In 32,000 miles my 2022 Ioniq 5 with the 77kWH pack has never thermal throttled, even road tripping through Texas in the summer. Two days ago I charged at 3 degrees C and got 240kW at 54% SOC out of a brand new Electrify America 3560kW charger. I can say after close to 200 DCFC's there are only 2 cars made that can charge faster than the Ioniq 5, the Taycan and the E-tron GT. Somer cars have faster peak rates, but none have better curves.
"So, I don't understand why you stopped to get his charging started"
Because I am an experienced EV driver with close to 250 000 km (150 000 miles) in EVs in the past three years. Kristian is new to this EV thing and doesn't have all the apps and RF-ID cards etc I have. This was a race between the cars, not between the drivers (though that does come into play, it is not the main event).
"If you actually owned the Ioniq 5, you would be more familiar with the car and you would know that 60kW is not a normal charging speed for the Ioniq 5 under any condition so it must be the chargers."
Unfortunately I cannot own all the cars I test, that would be close to 60 different EVs the past three years. With that being said I probably have close to 10-12 000km experience in the Ioniq 5/EV6, so I am barley a n00b. Also I am very aware that 69kW is not close to normal speed with E-GMP, but it is most likely not the charger as I have had multiple issues with slow charging in this car the past almost two weeks (ref all my other videos on this car).
"In 32,000 miles my 2022 Ioniq 5 with the 77kWH pack has never thermal throttled, even road tripping through Texas in the summer"
Well I have, the car I tested a year and half ago when they came out. Another reviewer had the exact same issues with the exact same car. But good for you!
"I can say after close to 200 DCFC's there are only 2 cars made that can charge faster than the Ioniq 5, the Taycan and the E-tron GT. Somer cars have faster peak rates, but none have better curves."
In my experience and as I have documented here on the channel in multiple videos I cannot say the same thing. When the Ioniq 5 does work properly the charging speed and time is amazing, but for me it hasn't been reliable. Other cars I have tested and driven on long trips may have "worse" stats, but have been far more reliable.
But I do agree when it comes to the Taycan and E-Tron GT. As a current Taycan CT owner there is no scenario where this car does not deliver amazing charging speed when the battery is above 30c. And as a former E-Tron GT owner I can say the same thing about that car, a car I have tested in extreme conditions and it still delivers every time.
@@KrisRifa I have been watching your channel since I first go interested in EV’s. I also watch Bjorn’s channel. I wonder if you think the pause that the BMS takes around 82% is cold-gating? Around 82% the BMS slows the charge down to a crawl while it checks the cells. After 2-3 minutes it runs all its checks it starts hauling again. In my car 80-90% takes 10 minutes even with the break. I have never DCFC’d to 100%,so I can’t answer that. You can see a 10-80% charge real time on my channel. Keep up the good content.
Can you do another 10 to 80 in another charger? To see if is definitely is not charging it in 20 22 min.?
Yes, new test coming later this week :)
What?! I hope you know that you can pay with a credit card directly on the OKQ8 chargers.
Didn’t work, we tried three different cards several times on two different chargers.
@@KrisRifa Oh, that's a bummer. 😔
Nice test of the infrastructure. Though, not a test of the cars.
Preheat will not work under 20 % SOC. So, when you drive around or go to 5 % SOC you will start charging with a cold battery. Try charge more often and you will get to your destination faster. When you do a comparison or a rewiew of a car, it helps to read the manual.
He actually plays it by the book leading up to the first stop. That one should have been a good session and it’s odd to see it drop in speed that quickly. I think something is wrong with that car…
I am ok with the test, but since you did not fed the car with 800v juice, it is totally invalid. Real world ok, the info system is not good ok. But as a user I never had a so bad experience. Faulty car ? Don’t know.
10:54 718V it shows
@@abraxastulammo9940 impossible. It was a 400V 150kw
@@jeanmiegoiste You have to take a look at the Tritium charger specs, I think they are 920 V capable. It looks the same as the older Ionity chargers.
Imagine being on a real road trip and you pull in without enough juice to get anywhere else and the charge queue is 6 cars deep and you still have hours of driving ahead of you. I was so bummed when I could afford an EV about a year and a half ago when I got a PHEV and nearly every EV video I watch makes me think that was the best thing that could have happened.
No problem with my TM3 LR RWD in winter !!! 2x425 km with 6m/s wind et 2°c result : 19.6 kwh/100 ( 4 in the car !) TESLA = efficiency (preheating top speed 255 / 168 kwh on V3&V2)
The Model 3 is a different category car, much smaller and hence more aerodynamic. Model Y would have been the one to compare against... And quoting consumption values on totally different routes/conditions is pointless!
My Ioniq 5 pulled 240kW at 54% SOC wit a 3C Outside air temp, 2 days ago. It did 20%to 80% in 16 minutes on an Electrify America 350kW charger. On a EA 150kW charger which is actually underrated, it will start at 175kW and tapper to 150kW dropping to 85kW at 75%. It takes about 24 minutes from 10-80%. I think EV's are complicated enough that if I jumped in your Model 3 and used Superchargers on a road trip like this, I would be much slower than you are. Kris does not know when to expect more from a charger and when he actually has a car problem. Even stone cold the Ioniq 5 AWD never pulls less than 75kW. He should have unplugged.
Model 3 is efficient, but just have a look at the real consumption, don't just look at the numbers,. Tesla cheats a bit. Yes it is more efficient, especially during motorway trips. A Model Y is slightly more efficient too. But the real consumption of those non Tesla cars is not as higher as you think. A RWD Model Y commonly indicate 15 kwh/100 average, mixed usage. In reality the calculator disagrees. Barely 330km is possible in winter, average. If 57 kwh usable, it means more 17,2 kwh/100. That is not bad, but not a miracle at all.
man that volvo is a thursty beast
You are kidding right? 😅🙈
More of this, pleas
#Volvo for the win!!!!
Keep on charging!
Would be curious if this inoniq 5 has the software update that improved the preheat and charging speed -released earlier this year
This is a the brand new 77,4kWh version that just came out. So it should be up to date with everything 👍
@@KrisRifa just seems funny that the challenges with cold charging and preheating are still there. As I have seen older cars with the update work better in colder weather.
@@KrisRifa thanks Kris glad you got it sorted. 100% agree this should just work and be simple. I didn't realise how complex it was. Still confused why the battery doesn't warm up enough on long runs as well.....
@@Popdog76 yeah me too, not sure why the car failed to achieve good charging speed 🤷🏻♂️🤔
The frames from the Ioniq’ screens look quite outdated and the graphics and UI looks like a Samsung phone from 2011.
A good ad for Tesla’s software
Do you mean Volvo software?
@@KrisRifa Well, we didn’t see the Volvo software this time to compare. I like this kind of video though - would be great to see more like this one, especially if the other driver can also show their in-car experience too 👍
@@KrisRifa Nice race. Google automotive is awesome. Very easy to navigate with.
@@itsbilln2178 It is on Volvo Christians channel. Volvo employ Android Automotive ..so Google Maps wth charge stops
Evs attempting baby steps
So much driver error, detours and mistakes... No point in watching this "real world test"
There was one driver error and one “error” by the navigation system. The NAV is part of the car so a strange decision done by it is on the car, not the driver and there as real world as it gets. What world do you live on where errors don’t happen?
250kw charge is a SCAM I mean it works for the 1st 5 min than it drops to 60kw 🤨😌
Ioniq 5 looks modern and different. Volvo's design is something old and traditional. Sponsored video? I wonder if it can be objective.
Ioniq is better than Volvo. Kia and Genesis smoke Volvo.
Only 5 min difference after 7.5 hours driving is nothing.
18m charging, V2L Ioniq > 40m charging Volvo
Finnish with 6% more battery Ioniq > Volvo
So the car that lost and charged for almost ten minutes more in your heads smoked the winner? 🤣🙈 this is a new level of delusion 😅
@@KrisRifa Read my comments again and cure your delusion 🤣
@@lONlQ On paper the Ioniq 5 should be better and faster, but in THIS REAL WORLD test it isn't. But just ignore the videographic evidence and continue believing what the manufacturers claim. Just watch all my Ioniq 5 videos, the car never delivers what they claim. So I am not the one who is delusional, instead of just believing what the manufacturers claim I am actually out there doing the hard work and testing these cars in the real world.
@@KrisRifa Did you fast charge? I appreciate and respect your hard work for information but you made a comedy video that 40m charging is faster than 18m charging in real world test. What does Ioniq5 not delivering as paper? I don't have much time to watch i'm just curious please tell me dude.
@@lONlQ Did I fast charge? I have done 250 00km in electric cars since 2020. I've travelled on tons of long trips across Norway and Europe in electric cars from Audi, Mercedes, Polestar, Tesla and Porsche - what do you think? Watch the video and all you questions are answered. Its not a comedy video, but a real world test. Seriously you sound like somebody who has never ever driven an EV dude....
It sounds like it was a tie. After 7 1/2 hours a 5 min difference is nothing. Especially if the “loser” arrives with 6% more battery. Let’s do that volvo be a Tesla model Y
These fanboys will not race volvo against tesla.
@@yvindstafsnes2027 fanboys? I’ve featured more Teslas than Volvos on the channel for the last 4 years 🙈😅
@Øyvind Stafsnes I could easily race against a Tesla.. as long as I don't have to drive it 🤣 Then I would rather take the bus.. For me Tesla are a one trick pony.. Or said in another way. It's a awesome EV, but not a awesome car.. In my subjective opinion. But I totally understand why so many purchase Tesla's. It's just not my cup of tea.
@@volvo_kristian why does every RUclipsr do long range races or tests. The Tesla will win. If it’s about driving around town then do that test. Btw. You don’t sound like a fanboy at all. I have a model Y and a v60 polestar wagon with the full R suspension. Guess which one had a smoother ride. (It’s not the volvo, but it’s fun to drive anyway )
@@volvo_kristian Good to hear you are being transparent, appreciate it.