SUZUKI V-STROM 1050 REVIEW | WORTH UPGRADING?
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2020
- 2020 Suzuki V-Strom 1050 Review | A back to back comparison & review with the V-STROM 1000. Having owned a 2014 Suzuki Vstrom for 5 years, I was very keen to ride the latest V-Strom 1050 from Suzuki. Branded as "vanilla" or "boring", this latest V-Strom has received a luke-warm reception from owners and moto-journos alike. Is it worth upgrading? How does it compare to the older model?
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Enjoy your review
Had my one down here in new Zealand for three months love the bike got 16000 on it great bike out of the box
Cheers 🍻
Excellent review .Good and crystal clear and enjoyable command over English unlike many other vloggers..
Another great review, really enjoy your expert-level assessments, keep it coming!
Much appreciated!
Just bought my 2014 V-Strong last weekend! I'm in love with the torque, handling, and braking. Really enjoying watching vids from a fellow owner! Keep up the good content bro!
Enjoy the bike. Cheers.
A little late to the party with this vid, but by far the most thorough and thought provoking review that I have seen and I was glued to the screen the entire time. Well done!
Thanks, Christopher.
Never had a single bike that I haven't changed the screen on. Love my Strom, it's so much fun.
Excellent comparison! I have a 2017 DL650 which I love so, of course, now I'm looking hard at 1000' and 1050's.
This vstrom had to grow on me, still dont fancy the yellow and would go for the gray/blue. Had a 650 04mod for years and its was a gem. Still regret selling it. Im leaning on going back to the vstrom. Also a fan of the 17 to 19mod. Great review sir. 🇳🇴☕
Excellent review and comparison. Thank you.
I’ve owned two DR Big 800’s and love this V Strom
Great review, this bike is on my radar. Currently have an '18 DL1000XT. I have ridden the new 1050 and really liked the balance and stability. Would also like to try out out the R1200GS.
Hi from UK never owned previous model buuuuut I'm hooked on new one 1050 xt...1200 miles trip around Scotland in 3 days my favourite bike up to now ... bit of a Swiss army knife..and fantastic value ...cheers good honest review ..from dave...ps screen good for me at full height.. im nearly 6ft ...👍👍
Really like the bike too. Glad the screen worked for you - might be my peaked helmet or maybe I have a longer torso. Cheers BMR.
I’ve been waiting for this!
Hope it was worth the wait!
@@BlueMarbleRider it really was. I have the same Vstrom as you and I can’t bring myself to upgrade. It was nice hearing you came to the same conclusion... well sort of. The only thing that made me consider it originally was the cruise control and I actually really like the look of the yellow that you tested. That being said my biggest reason for not upgrading is I like everything about our current bike. We definitely have the best colour too.
As a Yellow 2018 1000 XT owner, thank you for the informative comparison. Love the look of the new bike and updates to the electronics. Agree the price might be a touch high, I purchased mine for the value of what you get. But it is tempting if I saw a good deal out there…
Agree. Imagine prices will drop as the generation ages, hopefully down to the traditional Vstrom price point. Cheers.
Excellent in-depth review I have just purchased the 1050A as I didn't like the spokes on the xt and didn't want or need the extra electronics it's a lovely comfortable bike to ride and enough power for the road
Congrats, Alan. The spokes are hard to clean and 1050 makes more sense at the lower price of the A trim. Cheers.
Hello from Nova Scotia. An excellent comprehensive comparison between the two models. I too have the 2014 with the same windscreen and a two brothers slip-on (mainly for the weight savings but it sounds fun too). I'm in love with the bike and agree with all your observations. As you I think Suzuki took a chance with the price point and If you're correct and the price drops to a more v-strom level I may take the leap. I sometimes dream of the BMW R1250RT but can never justify the extra 15K. Love the opinions.
Hi, Mike: great to hear from another Canadian. I really enjoyed the bike; the only barrier being the price. I like the way it is an evolution which equals reliability. The GS is a lovely bike, but I can't get over the recalls, and how complex some of its systems are which would leave me feeling nervous on my proposed trip to Alaska this summer (if the borders open that is...). Then, as you say, there is the incredible price - not only of buying, but of the scheduled maintenance. I agree: it just doesn't make sense. Cheers.
I was on the fence as I’m looking into the 2020 1050 and the 2019 1000. I already own the vstrom650xt and love it. However I feel ready to move up to a bigger more powerful bike. The idea of having all the power down low is really comforting since I feel most at home around 4000rpm or less. I do not enjoy feeling like I’m racing. I do enjoy accelerating hard when needed and feeling like the power is effortless. This is why the vstrom1000 will be my next bike . Great review as always. I love your banter .Regards,Ken
Most torque/power down low is a rare commodity in bikes - I like the strom1000 for the same reason. Cheers.
I got my 14'Vee as the ADV package which meant hard pans of plastic, crash bars that do not really cover all they should, no heat/cruise BUT I added all that stuff, got some soft pans for off road, more protection, dropped the front sprocket from 17T to 15T making it a buzz saw. ESPECIALLY in the 1.5-5 thousand low torque range that is AWESOME! I like the simplicity of it, have taken it every condition and terrain and still LOVE it. The BUT I had to do these things to get it how I wanted it (Oh and I got one of the inexpensive clamp type cruise controls-works just fine). I DO have to say I was raised riding this last 5 years and used to bikes that you kick started, had NO protection, burned you on my upgraded expansion chamber (know what that is?) on my many times bored out 175 Enduro. So I am used to rolling into the badlands wearing my work boots, jeans and a T shirt as protection. Its all we had until I raced. Ok yeah, Im a dinosaur but still ride, still lead rides on/off road with my Vee and still love it. Its only a '14, and for a Vstrom that is still brand new! I still need to put another 200,000 miles on it so I do not feel guilty trading it in, probably by that time for a Max Scooter. I had one when I broke my neck/back and could not get my leg over a bike. The Burgman 650 was an amazing machine and they are really gaining in popularity. They are fast, fun, easy to ride and dependable. I had street guys giving me creds on the scoot for its quickness. Anyway, back to this review, I LIKE that you give an honest review. THAT is so rare these days. As you said here, Suzuki refined the Vee just up a bit over the last gens while keeping the GOOD qualities on the ride. You were spot on that the Vstrom is about the most sold ADV bike in the world due to its reasonable price and that durability and reliability it is known for. It is always listed in the top ten bikes or the review is not fair.It has such a great owner base that you can find out how to do do anything to these bikes while see guys riding them everywhere in the world and in all conditions. I think you gave about the PERFECT review of the new Vstrom 1050! I really believe that Suzuki will again take all the riders suggestions on the NEXT generation and make a SUPER ADV bike that will have the same type of lineup its doing now- from the road biased/the kind of cool anywhere ride middle one and then it will be to the bells/whistles full on ADV bike. I really believe that is why they did this gen the way they did. I will probably STILL keep my 14 Vee as I am slowing down a bit in my old age but still out there getting dirty and I definitely need my glasses to read an honest, non biased, previous model owners FULL review that YOU give my friend! Thank you as this has been the best review I have seen!!! Be safe out there!
Thanks for that, sir. It's a great bike - totally underrated. And yes, I know what expansion pipes are - I had them on my GT125 when I was a kid - noisy but worth it for the crazy snap in the power band when the choke was pulled. Link below...for how that went :-)
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Cheers and keep on riding. BMR.
Great detailed review thank you.You would think that the screen problem would be solved at this stage.Still the 1050 is a great bike and will sell.I really like the orange and white.Stainless steel spokes would be nice.
Just moved from a 1290 SAS and enjoying the smoothness and simplicity of the Strom and of course looking forward to the piece of mind in the reliability stakes. Had the GSs and the KTM but the frequent faults and poor dealer support spoilt my pleasure of ownership. It’s early days but I think this is going to be a real love affair. I had a wee strom some years ago and loved it, I toured two up and ragged it around the track and it took it all. Thanks for the compressive review
compressive review oh dear
You could not describe it in better words 🤟
Great review!
Thx
Big hello from Warsaw
Thanks, Wojtek - great to hear from Polish riders. Cheers.
Nice review BMR, and I agree with most of what you say. I changed up from 2018 model to the 1050XT, so let’s get this torque deficit kicked into touch. To be honest, I really don’t know what all the fuss is about. Yeah, there’s a slight difference, but I ride with a mate who still has a 2017 model, when he goes, I go with him, and by the time I hit 5K I’m ready for an overtake. Then again, I went up 2 teeth on the rear sprocket, that might be the difference. If you had never rode the previous V Strom, you would still say that is a torquey engine. I think you hit the nail on the head, when you said you say you have the Z900 for sports riding, I had a Ducati Scrambler 1100 for that purpose to. That’s where the 1050 scores well, it likes to party, and it can party with the best of them. I can understand bikers not wanting to upgrade with their hard earned cash to what they think is not a big shift in performance, as for me, no regrets.
PS. You’re right, that bar for mounting sat nav etc, is a great idea, but useless, I can’t read the Tom Tom it vibrates so bad. Keep up the good work, easily one of the best reviewers on RUclips 👍
Thanks. I enjoyed the bike a lot. I think what is key is that it still vstrom at heart and that comes through in the riding - traditional vstrom riders will still love it. That two teeth on the rear is a good idea and will probably erase any difference in low down grunt. Cheers.
In September I test rode the new 1050 XT (it’s called XT in the U.K.) back to back with my own 17 facelift DL1000.
Got to say I echo everything you highlighted in your review: the new bike lacks that instant shove low / mid range, it’s not as instant. But above 6k the engine really spins up and it’s definitely a bit quicker (or so it seems).
The ride I felt was a little smoother on the new 1050, and the low speed fuelling was significantly better.
My 1000 by the way has cornering ABS driven by the IMU.
My thoughts echo yours precisely, I wouldn’t change up yet but maybe in a couple of years when the price drops, the low end grunt will be missed (I like that), but it’s not the end of the world. The screen, change it out for a Givi and their new for the 1050 wind deflectors.
A really great review that I completely agree with - that’s rare 👍
Appreciate the feedback, Andrew. Yes I will likely eventually upgrade (few years), for all the reasons you mention, and while it will be a net gain...I too will miss that low end power. Cheers.
Very nice review, agree on everything you said , I had a first gen 650 rode it daily in all weather conditions, up to 200.000 km, a few months ago I went up to a 2022 xt whith all the bells & whistles, it is exactly like the 650 on steroids, love everything in this new bike, the bloody japanese made a really good bike again!!!
I was waiting for them to bring the looks of the 1050 to the 650 but they did not...
I was afraid of the 1050 being top heavy as I have seen many you tube reviews comenting on that, but it is not an issue at all, already at 8.000 km again daily use.
Love the styling of the new stroms. do love my 18's low rpm grunt for off road. do wish those crash bars would go higher on the fairing to help protect the plastics
This guy knows his bike, excellent review !
Excellent review and totally agree with you. I have the 2018 V-Strom 1000
Thanks for the feedback, Ole. Cheers.
I have 2018XT, 30K miles now (all weathers), I did road tested the 1050 for 4 hours. I 100% agree with every one of your points (well observed I must say). The 1050 clutch hasn't been fixed, so it will eventually vibe after time. I didn't trade-in, there just weren't enough improvements over the old one.
Thanks. Yes, I'm happy with my 2014 Stom. Perhaps one day, but, like you, it didn't twist my arm into having to have one. It's an evolution rather than a revolution, and i like that - one of the few models out there where they gently improve, hone and iron out wrinkles without bloating the bike or throwing out the baby with the bathwater. As such, the next model in the Vstrom line has never been a a quantum leap forward. I think that serves the rider more than the company, and perhaps Suzuki are missing out there, but they have cultivated a loyal following...Cheers.
Thank you for your nicely balanced review. I didn’t find it when I bought my ‘22 1050A last summer, trading up from a ‘15 650A. I am very happy with the bike, which only has the basic electronics package compared to the XT. I think the best description is it’s like the 650 on steroids, very similar riding position but loads more power everywhere. Regards.
Cheers. Loved the bike.
Just got my new out of the box 2018 dl1000 x, so in love with it, opted for the older generation over the 1050, it was an amazing deal, and just love the bike ! See ya on the road BMR, aloha from Salt Spring.
There are some great deals on the older model now - where did you get it - Vic, Mile Zero?. I know Saltspring well - often sailing around there in the summer. Mahalo from the big island :-)
BlueMarbleRider Well almost got 2019 it was a model A at Mile zero , But Daytona Motor sports in Vancouver, had the bike I wanted, however I did send a friend to Mile Zero, really appreciated ALs service there, my friend bought two V-Strom 650’s 2020’s. Be great to connect one day, I commute usually daily to Nanaimo, been getting some winter rides in for break in period. At moment been commuting to Thetis Island! Ah yes Island life is great. Year round riding! Love your reviews! See ya on the road!
@@Grants4fotos Yes, love the mile zero guys - they are easy going. I know Thetis really well, have some friends over there and have spent a bit of time on and around that island. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers.
Excellent review. You were completely right about waiting for discounts on the 2020 model. I also live on Vancouver island (Victoria). Just picked up a 2020 XA for $4100 discount + extra 4 year warranty. The 2020 Africa twin from same dealer was $5k more - prefer the Vstrom's better road manners over the twins better off road manners. I really do like the bike.
Good to know, and glad it worked out for you, Kent. Cheers.
$4100 discount, that's damn decent. Was it the Strom that Action had sitting in the window for quite a while?
I totally agree about TFT displays. I leave my bike outside, and I wonder how it will look with so much exposure to the elements. I guess I can buy a shower cap or something to keep it clean when it's parked.
The bike is outside of my budget, but I do like the idea of a revvy L-twin. I'm not a sporty rider, but I like having some leeway on gear selection. Thanks for the review.
Excellent review, thanks for the deep dive on the engine character. I'm on the fence.
Glad I could help
Hello,
Thanks for the beautiful views of British Columbia, Canada 🙂
I'm just like you for the rpm gauge. It's not a video game. When there is real gauges with needles, we can watch it in our white of the eyes while keeping our view on the road. It's more secure.
I hope some people will not ask for the auto-pilot one day. But we're almost doing it while forgetting to handle in harsh weathers with our new traction controls. Yes it's good for security.
Thanks to your frankness and professionalism.
Thanks, Allen. Yes, I tend to lean towards less automated and simple designs too. Cheers.
Probably the best review of the 1050 on RUclips 👏👏
Like how you are able to do an in depth comparison of the old and new. Do you have any thoughts on the strom 650. Can't decide if I need the extra power and weight. Manly commute and do the occasional 2 up trips.
Thanks
Having owned and toured 2-up on both, you can do anything on the 650 that you can do the 1000, but the 1000 is the more capable and comfortable bike. The 650 feels more top-heavy compared to the thousand even though it is 8kg or so lighter. If you're commuting in town, then the 650. Longer distances...1000. Cheers.
Just spend the extra on the 1050 and don't look back...;) I find the 650 underwhelming. Capabale but bland....
Nice review. I'm trying to arrange a test ride (lockdowns making this hard). I'm waiting to see what offers Suzuki do in January (They refresh the offers ever 3 months here in UK) Here the main alternative is Triumphs new Tiger 900.
Cheers. The base tiger is about the same price over here as the XA/XT Strom. I haven't ridden the Tiger, but hear it is a very nice ride. Should be interesting. I enjoyed Lamb Chops' review of the Vstrom vs Africa Twin...food for thought.
Hi. Thankyou for the review.
I had a 2018 xa1000 (wire wheels) and have just traded for a new xt1050. The dealers have dropped $3000 off the 2020 colour model. I took the red/white one. Brand new 0ks on the clock. Pick it up in 2 days time.
For me, I thought the led lights, cruise control, hill brake hold, centre stand, crash bars, etc, etc and riding comfort justified the change, especially as I prefer touring as opposed to comuter riding👍
Sounds like a great deal - congrats on the 1050 :-)
Nice review bmr. I didn't up grade as I felt not enough had changed over my 2018 xt. But I did trade it. Mainly because as you mentioned suzuki discount there bikes and as mine was on a finance deal and it was depreciating faster than fast, because of there new bike discounts to sell more new units (uk.) Clutches and baskets were changed on the 2017 onwards model years which gave it a slipper clutch and lighter operation.
Nice to know about the baskets...I fear mine might be starting to make the agri slap... No issue mechanically, but annoying noise.
@@BlueMarbleRider if you hear that noise it just means your not riding fast enough! 😜
Very helpful I also have a z900rs great review
Good evaluation. I picked up a leftover '20 1050 XT for $13,200 U.S. out the door, in August of 2022. It supplements my '07 DL 1000 that carried me to Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, among other places. Unfortunately, I was hit head-on by a drunk while riding one of my Urals in December of that year. After six months recovering from a shattered left femur and broken wrist, I was ready to try riding again. Of my eight bikes the XT has the easiest clutch, so it was the obvious choice. As a side benefit, the start assist kept me from dropping it, as my balance was lacking. Power wise, the XT is similar to the '07, but smoother. Feature wise, there is no comparison. I particularly like the cruise control, LCD dash, and superior front brakes and forks. I installed the Suzuki plastic side cases and top box upon purchase. Just this week, I installed the OEM heated grips and a Puig touring shield. As you allude to, Suzuki's are a value proposition. This is fine for me, as I always look for end-of-year deals, or ones that have sat on the floor for two or three years, as was the case with my V-Strom's.
Glad you're on the mend, Frederick. As you say, Suzuki are a great brand, particularly given the value for money they offer. Cheers.
Love my '07 Vee. Might have to save up for this model. :)
It's a great bike...and definitely strill a Strom.
Thanks for an excellent review. I bought the basic 1050 A model back in September - the dealer had a pre-reg bike with just 14 miles on it, on special offer. I ended up getting it with a centre stand and hand shields added for under £8400, with a full tank and 12 month road tax - bargain ! Agree with everything you have said, except I find the seat a tad too hard for me. During running-in (the first 600 miles) it averaged 62mpg. I have now done 1500 miles and overall, It manages 50miles per imperial gallon (4.54 Ltrs).
You're welcome. Glad you're enjoying the bike - they're a great bike and, like Lamb Chops, I rate them better than the Africa Twin. Cheers.
Being offered a 1050 XT for £8895 right now(April 2021) in 'Marlboro' colours...we are about £300 out in the trade in, so we'll see?
6 months ago I purchased a 2018 base white DL1000 with only 1209 miles on it for $8700 out th door (but I paid my own taxes in my US state. I also am glad of the prevailing snobbery directed at the V Stroms as it gives fans of well designed, great performing and reliable Japanese motorcycles opportunities to snatch up excellent deals. I love both my stroms (2012 dl650 that I've put 60k miles on since I bought her new in '12 and my "new" dl1000, which I think is exceedingly handsome in a black and decker and cyclops like way).
Yes, long live the riders who fork out the big bills for the status-brand name bikes, allowing us to, as you say, "to snatch up excellent deals" on the trusty Strom. Cheers.
Very nice review, and good...Thanx!
Thanks, Alvar, I appreciate the feedback.
Great review as always. I have a 2017 Strom 650. But the 1050 is on my radar. If prices come down a bit. It could be in my future.
I have a Kawasaki Versys 650 and are looking at the V Strom 1050 as a upgrade. Looks great!
I have the 1050 xt and I absolutely love that bike!
Yes it's a fine bike and possibly one for my future. Cheers.
Well I test rode an Africa Twin today just for curiosity sake. I love the motor and the looks, but the bike certainly does not manage twisties like the Vstrom. The 21 front doesn't turn on and stay I a curve like the V. I was happy to bet back on the Vstrom..
I♥️MY SUZUKI V-STROM 1050XT
I do a lot of off road and two track on my 18 1000. Definitely like having that down low grunt to get up and over obstacles. The new remapping seems to push the strom into a more road oriented direction. Though I do like the looks and that yellow blue color scheme
Yes, the 1050 is definitely more road focused. Interesting to compare the 1050 to the new NT1100 from Honda. They are about the same price and offer similar tech (the Strom actually has more - IMU, rebound adjustment on the suspension, although it doesn't come standard with heated grips). Of course, with it's 19 inch front and slightly longer travel suspension, the Strom is going to be better off road. Great bike. Really enjoyed it.
Nice review. Is it possible to install barkbusters knuckle guard in this new version
Yes - it's really easy to remove the OEM plastic wind protectors (as I call them). You would have to get 1050 specific aftermarket barkbusters, but I'm sure they're out there. Most XT/XA owners will likely go that way.
Givi came out pretty quickly with a dual screen which I bought and replaced the existing one and it has made a huge difference to the wind noise . Next up will be the seat which is just aweful. Seat Concepts are dragging their feet a bit with this so will have to wait. Other than these two items is a wonderful machine to ride and I look forward to every ride.
Thanks for the feedback on that. Cheers.
I'm on the 1000XT 2018 and just love that bike - especially the low-end grunt engine. Love to ride in sports-bike-groups and play with the guys accelerating out of corners then seing their surprised reactions to having been destroyed by that tall bike with just 100ps. Btw mine do come with cornering ABS just like the 1050XT... Would love to have that 1050 ride by wire and cruisecontrol added to mine
I've surprised a few riders on the Strom too. Yes the ride by wire is smoother and the cc is a great bonus. Never thought I would want cc, but it felt great. Cheers.
I’ve got the same ride. It’s just so fun to ride. Best bike I’ve ever owned.
I bought 1050xt few months ago. The drive mode select and higher rev engine provides more broad range of joy
On C mode u feel like driving a 400cc bike
On B mode 650cc A mode liter bike
That's what i felt
The top speed i recorded on my bike was 230km on speedo which is much higher than the 2nd gen 1000.. so it is better when mid~high speed long distance touring u can keep up 180~200km better than 2nd gen. v 1000
Yoshi pipe on it everything else stock i use high octane gasoline only +95
I like your mode description - that's a nice way of putting it. Cheers.
As a 2019 Vstrom 1000 XT rider Iam thinking of upgrade. Your review is by far best on you toube of this bike since you ride one. I can decide would I like to ride tourqe higher up like I love it on a 2019 model. Sure new design and futures are nice but at the end I drive, like you sad about TFT.
Seeing as you have a relatively new 2019, I'd wait until the price is right on the 1050 - a couple of years, come the end of season sales, they'll drop the prices...then spring for one. It's enough like previous model that you'll be familiar with it, but a little spicier and with better tech. Cheers.
Thx for review, it was interesting. Next time just try to tape that speedo with a black electrical tape. That will be much easier than making all that post editing. Also a huge square box that is blurring your speedo is very distracting thing =)
Yes, it's a real pain editing that out. I always forget to bring the tape with me! But good call on that. Cheers.
Very nice review and great comparison between the two models. Nice job! Perhaps I overlooked the answer to this question, but can the 1050 be remapped to more closely resemble the torque curve of the previous model? That low-end torque is what interests me more than top end performance.
The 1050 has very few engine mods over the previous model, but one of couple of them, the compression ratio and the cam timing are going to prevent an identical mapping to the torque curve of the previous model. I'm not sure if anyone offers an "increased low end torque" ECU reflash on the 1050. The difference wasn't huge, but it was noticeable to a current owner (me). It wouldn't stop me from "upgrading" if I wanted to, particularly as rumour has it that the Vstrom will be losing it's engine configuration on the next serious iteration, and going to a vertical twin with a 270 crank...cheaper to produce (a single cylinderhead, same characteristics...) Not sure what they will call it then...! Cheers.
@@BlueMarbleRider Prob. keep an eye on preowned 2014 - 2019 models then. My current sort of touring/ADV bike is a 2013 F700GS. I like it alright but it is a bit small framed for me at 6' even. I got to ride a 1200RT and really liked the low end torque. Not much of high rev friend. Speaking of size. I can flat-foot the 1200GS. The seat height of the Vstrom is a bit over 1" lower compared to the GS. You have any thoughts on seat height of the Vstrom? Is it adjustable on your model year? Thank you for your replies!
@@BlueMarbleRider Prob. keep an eye on preowned 2014 - 2019 models then. My current sort of touring/ADV bike is a 2013 F700GS. I like it alright but it is a bit small framed for me at 6' even. I got to ride a 1200RT and really liked the low end torque. Not much of high rev friend. Speaking of size. I can flat-foot the 1200GS. The seat height of the Vstrom is a bit over 1" lower compared to the GS. You have any thoughts on seat height of the Vstrom? Is it adjustable on your model year? Thank you for your replies!
@@damerowr The seat is not adjustable, not sure if they sell a taller seat. That is a complaint among the very tall riders, that it is lower than a GS. Cheers.
I want it for the new look and the cruise control. But I prefer my 2018 for its gauges and lower RPM power as well as lower weight and one piece seat.
I am tall and put on the Suzuki tall seat on my bike and what I found is that suddenly the stock screen in the lowest bolt on setting suits me better than the National screen I had put on. That National screen is great protection when pushed fully forward and sitting on the stock seat.
Great info there re the tall seat and screen, Gregor. I’ll pass that on to other riders. Cheers.
Does the tall seat make much difference? 🤔
@@savagejabbit5929 so I like the noticeable increase in legroom and you can shift on the seat more. That being said it puts you higher and you may get buffering from the windscreen. I like to run the tall seat in the warm months with the stock screen in the lowest position. This makes for clean air past my helmet and a “cooler” ride. Now that temperatures are below 7 degrees C during parts of my riding, I put the taller National windscreen on and the stock seat so I have full wind protection. With the step in the seat, I was reminded it is nice to have that support when accelerating fast.
Hope that feedback helps.
I'm loving my 1050 XT. I've owned many bikes over the years, and this will probably be the first I keep past 100k miles. For the windscreen, I'm wondering if the helmet buffeting is compounded by the visor on top of your helmet. I'm 5'11" and find the smoothest windscreen position for me is ~3/4 up. Nothing but smooth air hitting the top of the helmet. I live in CA where summer temps often top 100 so it's just about perfect as-is for me, no buffeting, and enough air to help cool you in the low position.
I'm sure the peak has something to do with it, as does helmet shape, but I found the same on all vstroms with oem windscreens - all with different helmets. The aftermarket options I have purchased (Madstad for the older 650; Givi Airflow for the 2014 DL1000 both cleared it up). Congrats on the XT - love it myself - and certainly a great long term bike. Cheers.
Regarding wind noise, I have the same helmet as you Scorpion 950 and it is BY FAR, the noisiest helmet I have ever ridden with. The wind buffeting is horrendous as well. If you get a chance to try another helmet, that may help you to find peace with noise and buffeting on any bike.
Thanks, Greg. I have several helmets and all suffer serious buffet with original VStom 1000 stock screen. I ride with plugs in, so noise doesn't worry me too much. I am looking at a few other helmets right now though...
Bizarre that they changed the tuning to make peak torque at a 50% higher RPM. I think one of the greatest appeals was all of the low RPM power.
Though looking at the dyno charts, not much of a difference, the new one is just more linear. The new one pulls hard from just above 3k RPM while the old one starts pulling just below 3k, but you can easily compensate for that by changing shift points.
I'd wouldn't be completely against sacrificing that for more top end, my '14 feels gutless above 6k or so
It's more noceable than it looks - they've also changed the cam timing. The bike feels like a Ducati would below 2.5krpm (not a good thing) and a 650 wee strom below 3krpm. But above 5.5krpm, it is more rewarding. It's tuned more like the 2003-2009 version.
@@GasGrassOrAssetto Drop a tooth or two like I did on the front sprocket. I have a 15T front down from the OEM 17T and it keeps the bike in the power zone for sure. SO much more response even higher in the revs. It truly is an adventure bike with that sprocket. It is a buzz saw. Just a bit more buzzy on the highway but not enough to worry about for be for the added zip it has. I use it off road a lot so dropped it down. If I want to do more touring it takes me 15 min to put the OEM back in. SUPER easy swap.
@@1001CP Thanks for the suggestion! Did you have to change the chain? I would assume changing just two teeth that you would not.
I♥️MY SUZUKI V-STROM 1050XT
ok on pricing, so i saw one here (usa) for $13.3 US...so right now canadian is 78 cents to our dollar...so figure it should go down to $10.5 US than that's more correct pricing, so we shall see
High, i like, that you are able to change the modes with gloves on. Kindly Fiete
tx for review, would be cool to add timestamps on video, separately highlighting "summary"
Hola!! encontré tu video por casualidad...pero , felicitaciones!! Excelente comparativo, honesto e imparcial.- Soy dueño de una V Strom 1000 xt 2018 , estoy muy conforme, no he tenido ningún problema, motor muy confiable y me gusta el par de 101Nm a 4000rpm.- Tampoco la cambiaria por la 2021.- Suzuki debe mejorar el tablero lcd por una pantalla TFT color y algunas cosas mas de diseño.- Saludos cordiales y Congratulations!!!!
Gracias por tus comentarios, Gustavo: estoy de acuerdo; es una gran moto. No se preocupe demasiado por la pantalla no TFT de la nueva 2021: también es una gran bicicleta, ¡solo que un poco demasiado cara! Saludos, BMR. (No hablo muy bien el español, así que con la ayuda del traductor de Google podemos hablar: ¿no es el mundo un gran lugar?)
@@BlueMarbleRider Hola BlueMarble....solo un comentario mas....en argentina el precio de la Honda Africa Twin es de Dolares estadounidenses 40000 y el modelo V strom 1000 xt se llegó a vender en 29500 U$S...una Yamaha 1200 Supper tenere 37000...estossi son precios caros....es increible no.- Aquí hay muchos impuestos y lamentablemente es considerado un bien de luxo.- Abrazo y felicitaciones por tus videos.-Saludos
@@gustavoportaluppi5623 Gustavo: Estoy impactado por esos precios. Eso es más del doble de lo que se vende en Canadá. Una aventura V Strom 1050XT completamente cargada
El precio completo (sin descuento) es de $ 13796 USD. Creemos que es caro en comparación con los 1000 anteriores, que eran mucho más baratos. Gracias por la respuesta. Salud.
@@BlueMarbleRider Estimado, un placer poder comunicarme contigo y hacer conocer lo que "hay que sufrir" para tener una motocicleta aquí.- En este momento hay muchos problemas de importacion y aún no llegan : Ni la Yamaha tenere 700 , tampoco la V Strom 1050....esto es terrible!...y lo que no imaginas aún es que los precios que te informé son de contado (significa que no hay financiación)....Existen algunos sitios que pueden financiar una parte (pero el precio se incrementa aún mas).- En este momento son incomprables ...es una pena.- Saludos
@@gustavoportaluppi5623 Suena muy complicado para la compra de motos en Argentina. Como ciclista de fuera de América Central o del Sur, si viajamos a un país allí, debemos firmar un documento de carnet que indique que no venderemos nuestras bicicletas a los lugareños. Nunca entendí realmente por qué teníamos que pasar por los problemas de conseguir que se firmara el carnet cada vez que cruzamos una frontera, pero ahora lo entiendo. Podríamos comprar un Tenere 700 por 10 000US y venderlo por tres veces esa cantidad. ¡Ridículo! El Vstrom 1050 no es muy diferente del 1000, por lo que encontrar un used1000 podría ser la mejor opción para muchos argentinos?
My biggest issue with the new models is the bits and bobs they put on it the compression change all which priced this bike to high the low price is what really made this bike stand out from the crowd idk.
Yes the initial price is high, but there are some great deals in the fall every year.
Apparently the clutch basket has had changes made to it and should not have the same issues as the old one. Different part number now as well. Smoother and larger 'bearing' surface and changes to large thrust washers.
Thanks for that, Gregor. The guys at Werks seem to think it isn't that much different, but I guess new owners will let us know as it progresses. Cheers.
@@BlueMarbleRider yeah. But if you watch their video they do mention the tighter gap now and the different washers. I suspect there is some side motivation for them to say it is still flawed. But time will tell. I do think Suzuki is not pulling a Kawasaki KLR doohickey story here and they are changing and fixing their issues when they become aware of them.
Really good review again.
Saw a British review recently where they drag raced the 1050 against the 1100 Africa Twin. The AT came out on top... I think the 14-19 strom would have beaten it?.
Regarding the screen also, the ability to adjust the tilt when riding is a great feature, somehow lost on the 1050.
Thanks for the feed back. The Honda has a lot going for it - the engine is a gem. The sound too with the electronics. That's why I think Suzuki will lower the price: I just think the AT is the more desirable bike at the same price-point. But drop the strom 3-4k (and I think they will), then it's a different ball game. I think the 14-10 Strom would certainly be better low down, but up top, I doubt it. Cheers.
In the UK, the AT is quite a few k more than the 1050.
@@nickanderson1378 In that case, I would take the strom. The 21 inch front on the AT is a hindrance to handling on the tarmac - and I'm never taking a litre bike off road (it's a lot of work! :-). I'd take the strom in a heartbeat. There's a lot you can do with a few ks to customize the bike to your desires. Cheers.
I think you'll find the screen is multi adjustable. Just pull the lever on the front of the bike and ratchet it where you need it.
I could only get it to move up and down...did you find another direction?
Are you certain the different riding or accelerating characteristics you noted are not just to do with changes to the riding mode?
Yes, positive. While the modes feed the power in different ways, none of them quite match the low down grunt of the 2014-19; however, the mid to top is more responsive.
I share the “too much like the old one” attitude. Why? I’ve owned three new ‘Stroms (‘09, ‘12, ‘15) - cumulatively, they’ve been ridden hard and long well over 200 000 kilometers. As a loyal Stromtrooper, I postponed buying another until this example was released. What’s been released is disappointing, not because it isn’t much better than the previous generation, but because it hasn’t integrated Suzuki’s variable valve technology, it has lost its windscreen functionality and its performance falls well short of what other manufacturers are now offering. Thanks Suzuki, for the memories. I hope to always have one in the stall and I really want to buy another, but, barring offers too good to refuse, it won’t be this offering.
Agree - it would have been to have incorporated the vvt into the bike - it certainly is a better solution than BMWs shift cam which is basically a one hit rather than across the rev band. Give the 1050 a ride though, you might be surprised. Certainly lamb chop preferred it to the latest africa twin. Cheers. Great feedback.
can I ask how much you weigh please? This is always interesting when people talk about a bike carrying more weight or less weight than a previous model. I weigh 100 kg (220 lbs or 15 st 5lb) so any bike I ride has to cope with that factor in terms of power output.
I'm 185lbs but closer to 200 with all my garb on. I frequently 2 up with my 2014 vstrom and it handles it well. Hope that helps.
Lovely review.....but im 3years late I guess😊.
To be honest, I'm not an offroad rider. I currently have a 500cc bike. The current bike is, grossly underpowered and heavy. I wanted to upgrade to the 2020 1050XT but my brother who is also a rider keeps on saying that its too big a bike for daily city commute and suggesting the 2020 650XT is better.
Probably I'm over compensating for the current low powered bike experience and want more power.
I also dont want to buy another bike for the next 6years or so I must get this as right as it can be. I also want to start road trips (400km round trip) with my wife as a pillion passanger probably once a month.
Any suggestions?
Yes. Having had both the 650 and the 1000, the 1000 will commute just fine (clutch can feel heavy if there is a lot of start/stop), although the 650 is a better solo commuter (fuel cost). The 1000 actually feels lighter - weight feels lower. And while my 650 took my wife and I all over, the 1000 is by far the more sensible choice for regular 2 up work. After 6 years, the 1000 will still offer you all the power you want. You may grow out of the 650, given you are already on a 500. In short, the 650 will do everything the 1000 does, but the 1000 is the best all round bike I've owned.
@@BlueMarbleRider thank you for the insights.
As a die hard Suzuki fan I'm very disappointed in the very minor up grades after 7 years were still looking at the same engine chassis ,and 4 grand more, You still can buy a new 19 for 11 grand theirs several for sale in dealers across Canada. And maybe even better a used 14 to 16 for 8 grand. Compare the upgrades the African twin has had in 7 years and you'll understand that the Vstrom engineers have been layed off,
leaving the designers at bay.You can also compare it to the 650 Vstrom 09 maybe the most reliable Suzuki engine ever made, in 2014 they where selling used for 5 to 6 grand ,i still see them for 5 grand only because they where so good ,no recalls on that generation, so depreciation is big because of the minor upgrades and the 650 will always outsell the 1000 especially now,
Seems like they've gone back to gen 1 mapping. Which is the one I prefer, the unsanitized version.
Could be - I've never ridden a gen 1, but it certainly more conventional. The engine is sportier in nature - I really enjoyed it. Cheers.
In answer to your question: is the 2020 vstrom worth upgrading? Yes it is. Just traded my 2019 vstrom 1000, and now finished the run in mileage. Ride it like you stole it.
BTW my significant other for the last 7 years is a carburetted Bandit 1200s. It edged out the 2019 Strom in almost all areas except cornering and braking (non abs), but not any more. Time to pass it to someone else to love, it is redundant.
I’m seriously considering trading in my kTm 790 adventure for this 1050 vstrom yellow and blue for me. Love the old school suzuki paint scheme
Edit: I love my kTm but it lacks on longer highway rides 2 up wiling my wife.
For sure - especially if you're 80% road and 20% dirt.
@@BlueMarbleRider even less. I’ve owned my kTm for over a year now and only been off road once. I live in southern New Jersey not too many off road adventure trails around here.
Now if you were to choose between these two not owing one, what would be the choice?
Tough call. If I only had one bike, then the 1050 as it adds a sportier dimension. But as I have several bikes, and the sportier dimension is well served by the Z900RS, I'd go with the 2014-2019 strom as it produces more of it's torque lower in the rpm range - which is great as I use it for commuting and touring. Good question. Cheers.
You said about the great LCD screen. Well, it actually sucks. Not enough brightness and contrast for a full sun day, but the worst thing is the amount of parameters shown at once, which means, those are to small and to hard to find during a ride. For example, to check the time, you need to bend to the screen and search for the small digital clock in the bottom right corner. At the same time, you might get killed by not watching the road.
Thanks for your info on that Piotr - I didn't find any difficulty, but I don't live with it, and perhaps coming from the previous Vstrom - which has a some similarities - it was easier for me. Are you an owner? I'll pass on your feedback to others. Cheers.
@@BlueMarbleRider I own 1000 from 2017. I only tested the 1050 very intensively for an hour, including heavy traffic, highway speeds, light dirt, sporty treatment, and ergonomy. The dashboard failed the test hard, the windscreen partially, but rest of the bike was perfect.
Do a suzuki katana review please
Have you found any 0 - 60 figures for the 1050? The only one I have found quoted is 3.9...that's less than the 650!
I haven't; however, rest assured, having owned the 650 for several years, the 1000 for several years, the 1050 is much quicker than the 650 and at least as quick as the 1000 (it actually feels faster because of the revvier nature, but I cannot confirm that). Don't forget, the difference in weight between the gen 2 1000 and the 650 is negligable, yet the former has 100hp compared to around 65... Not sure where you got your figures, but I always treat online figures with serious scepticism. Cheers.
At about 27 minutes into your video, on the highway, I thought why has the bike started making that awful sound? Then I noticed you were catching up to some Harleys lol
Chuckle. It's amazing when one follows you in traffic and you wonder if your gearbox has started to shed cogs...
Seeing the XT around here for 12k new, Not bad
Where are you located, Drew? The XTs are still listed as 16k in my local Suzuki dealer, although I expect they'll come down for the fall. Cheers.
@@BlueMarbleRider Southern California. I think we always have the best price on new bikes. The supply is quite large and the market as a whole is large. The XT's were going for around 14.5k when they first launched. I was seeing the last year of the Tracer 900 (before the re-design) for as cheap as $8800 new for reference. Suzuki GSXR-1000R for as cheap as $13k. All + tax and license of course. You can get crazy deals on last year's bikes.
Change the exhaust, get it in for a remap and it will fly, let that big v twin breathe. :)
On which model?
Don't touch the exhaust as it's tuned for the mapping and meets euro emissions with a built in Catalytic converter. If you want a super fast sports bike this is not the bike for you.
What jacket is that?
It's a Olympia Moto Sports Men's Ranger Vent Tech jacket - Patriot colour scheme.
Smooth, would you say as smooth as a vstrom 650?
No, but only because I'm not sure two 500+cc pistons rotating at serious rpms can be as smooth as two 300+cc pistons. Riding it, the larger displacement comes across as more powerful, but not intrusive. Hope this helps.
@@BlueMarbleRider Yes, very helpful. And a funny thing happened yesterday. Local guy selling 1050xt so I went to ride with intentions to buy. Nice bike BUT I like the low down power of the 2014 better. Having owned a 2014 I immediately noticed a slight lag under 4 k, probably wouldn't have noticed but for owning the previous gen. This will be a two up bike for me and the Mrs. and I think the low grunt will be better suited. Who's cranking 8 grand on these bike's anyway?
Don't think I would upgrade to it. I'm wanting more grunt, not less...
It's a hard one. The new one wins points for the slightly more exciting nature of the engine.
How tall are you? For reference re the screen etc.
6 ft, 33-34 inch leg.
I wonder how much mpg do you get on your v-strom?
Mixed city highway and with warm up, about 5.2l per 100km or 54mpg imperial / 45mpg us/
getting about 18.5km/litre. guage seems quite accurate. Does start getting thirsty at constant speeds above 130km/hr.
expected and now real problem for me. 👍
Getting 18km/l in mixed riding. Above 21 on the highway.
Can u review 1050 XT .it has low torque
Hi, Nishad - in Canada the XT is called the XA: it's the same bike. The torque is great, although it doesn't come in as early as the previous 2014-2019 model. Cheers.
@@BlueMarbleRider thanks buddy..my current bike is BMW g310gs which I would use for 75/25 onroad off road.. I am planning to take 1050 XT for long distance adventure touring , though I have budget for R1200 or AT or Triumph tiger 900 GT pro .what is your advise pls
Way too expensive for what it is. I wish it would be a little more of a GS competitor and a bit more fire road worthy (more ground clearance thane the 6.5-inches.
If it follows previous models, then the price will drop during the extended sale events and end of season blow outs. That's when the bike becomes excellent value for money. I think the Strom is aimed at reliable, cheap and comfortable long distance touring rather than the true ADV market. While the GS is fire road capable, it's a handful on anything more; like the vstrom, it's forte is really long road rides. Cheers.
21:45 FULLY AGREE WITH TFT SCREEN OPINION ! And Will it work KTM !! (LOL!!!!) :)
1050 XA ?? not XT?
In Canada, and I think the US too - but don't quote me on that, Suzuki have badged the entry model the A and the more ADV version the XA rather than the XT which they use in Europe and other markets. Not sure why...but the the XT and XA are identical. Cheers.
@@BlueMarbleRider ah ok thanks
I like the black one.. 🤔
I think that's the A model. Perhaps looks the nicest of the bunch. I'm sure we'll see new colour schemes for 21. Cheers.
XA you must be joking your having a laugh you must be
? In Canada, the 2021-22 1050 Vstrom is known as the A, XA or XAA depending on the trim. The bike I tested was the XA.
I literally can't believeve for 14k oil filter exposed wow. Hard pass
Yes a few so called ADV bikes are doing that now, and Stroms have always been that way. There are plenty of OEM and aftermarket metal pans now. Agree though - an internal oil filter like the Husky/KTM enduros would be better.
Yep, that alone stops a large number of sales.
Put a proper helmet on und you have no problem with the wind.
The 1000 does have learn sensitive abs
I think the 18/19 onwards. But not the 2014-18.
2017 when they made the changes to the last model
3 way, this has 6.
@@gregtriumphrat yes what’s your point. He said the 1000 didn’t have any.
Way too bulky