It was a lot easier before developers would buy huge plots of land and only make HOAs available. The ratio of traditional neighborhoods to HOAs is shrinking every year. I think it might be time to regulate these developments.
This just made me so happy to hear the story of an H.O.A. having to reimburse a person for their attorney fees. Keep up the happy stories in these tough times. People need it.
I’m on an HOA board here in Austin, TX….we had an owner paint his house a nice clean white color before putting it up,for sale ……unfortunately for him he didn’t read the HOA paint guidelines of neutral beige colors only……he went to closing and saw the cost of repainting ($15,000) added to his closing costs…..he of course paid up at closing.
@@tim3172 I specifically didn’t do anything to this resident who didn’t obey the HOA rules….the HOA did it by enforcing the rules. I sleep well at night knowing democratic rule of laws & rules is justified. I also feel good about contributing as an HOA board member volunteering my free time to enhance my civic responsibility.
@@3101homeobeying a ridiculous rule is the problem. Is like if I tell you dont the restroom unless the sky is blue. So it makes you a Karen when you enforce it. I am pretty sure you will disagree with me so lets just move on.
The rule is to keep people from parking work vehicles in the neighborhood. My HOA clearly defines work vehicles whereas this one just says “trucks” which is very outdated. This guy has a 100k luxury vehicle.
@@HoloScope That's not the point. Edit: (Re: Cont:) reply (my) to username: @derpixonisagreatname7153: For those still trying to ride the Rivian's owner: Hitting you up before your comment gets buried. That's still besides the point. The point is he voted for policy year in and year out. This is about the concept of the work ethic. HOA's committe consists of memebers who at the same time have a beurocratic responsibility. If he read it or not, it's irrelevant. He only pointed it out when it affected him personally. Reminds me of how politicians operate. It's absolutely terrible.
Happens every day. You need to balance the hassle with the advantages. Or do like our relatives and run for the HOA board and get rid of the old members that are out of touch with the current living situations.
What about the compact crossover segment? Would that vary by state? Did Massachusetts if you have a car like a Subaru Forester are Toyota RAV4 the registration we'll have the vehicle listed as an SUV. If the ivian here had a cap on it it would look like it's SUV counterpart.
SUVs aren't trucks! Trucks are much larger. An Isuzu Nls (for example) is a truck. An SUV and the vehicle in this video are not trucks. -Although I also don't think they should be classified as cars, because they're far too big. In Australia, we have a huge problem (no pun intended) with the popularity of those sorts of over-sized vehicles taking up far too much space in parking bays.
@@jublywubly SUVs are built on truck chassis and are considered trucks by the government so they can have lower safety standards AND so SUV gas mileage doesn’t count against a manufacturer’s average fleet gas mileage.
Back in 2017, HOA tried to seize my 1975 Lamborghini Countach and 2003 Ferrari F430 because "It reduced everyone's house value". When I didn't let them take it they put a boot on both my cars, I cut it off (they scratched the rims on both my cars putting on the boot) and they tried to sue me for it. and lost the case I sued them back for about 1.8 for Emotional damage, trespassing, and Vandalism. 4 of the HOA board members were forced to sell their houses to pay me. when I won I threw a massive street party and HOA didn't say a word to me.
My neighbor had the same problem with his '02 Bugatti Centodieci, the HOA claimed they didn't like it parked on the street. He said it was because they didn't like him cranking the Beastie Boys at four in the morning on its Richter-scale sound system, the two-foot lift kit, or that he had removed the trunk lid and installed a stripper pole. The HOA tried to boot it but didn't have one that fit 36" spinning rims.
@@goodgremlinmedia2757 because the outdated implication of "truck" is that it must be a work vehicle and not a personal vehicle. Because people don't own "trucks" for personal use.
He should go back to the HOA and give them an ultimatum. He gets to keep the truck parked where it is or he will put up a 40 foot tall HAM radio antenna. (Note: HOAs can’t stop you from putting up a HAM radio antenna because it is protected by federal law)
@@pablopicaro7649 First off, don't move in to a HOA area if you can't abide by the rules. Second, putting a cap on the truck to make it look like a SUV would cause the HOA's head to explode because while it is a truck, it looks like an SUV. Ban an SUV looking vehicle and ALL SUV's in the area would need to be banned. Intelligent people use intellect and IQ vs your random rant. This is the difference between playing chess and hopscotch. . .. .. . .
There is a retired guy who has a bench in his yard that he sits on every day to look at nature, and of course, the HOA wanted the bench removed because it was an eye sore to them.
I'm glad I inherited my house from my dad before the HOA formed. An HOA was forming in my neighborhood, and because I was not apart of it when it formed, I can not be forced to join. Every single one of their rules I break on purpose because they can't do a thing about it. I'm considering painting my house just to give them a middle finger. It's fully paid off so I have the money to spare.
@@TheCobruhAlienat0r good HOA members should suffer for their stupid rules such as this. If I had this case I would sue the hell outta them, win my case, and then sell 😂 I would never want to be a part of an HOA in the first place tbh because there are plenty of neighborhoods that are just as nice without them.. they cause more problems than they are worth..
I worked for a water department one of the HOAs we served told us we couldn't drive our trucks into their area. The department head told them okay we will just shut off the water to your area if something happens. They were happy with that for about a month. Then they had a water main break so we shut off the water to the 180 homes in the HOA After about 12 hours the changed their rules allowing trucks to travel their roads so we fixed it.
I'd be more concerned about what it's going to do to the property value when people find out they could be fined for parking their own vehicle in their own driveway. I don't know many people that would buy a house with rules like that.
He might of meant, that the homes will not be worth as much because a HOA owner cannot own this truck, or a cyber truck, so its future price will be lower compared to a house That will allow you the freedom to own a truck.
@@jaredschmidt4614 Jared, Can you open a dance club in the middle of a cemetery? No. The idea that land has restricted use is older than you and I combined. Naivety is no excuse. If you buy a house in a covenant neighborhood and expect to ignore the rules, that’s called a Karen. Don’t be a Karen.
@@BigKandRtv we were talking about charging, not the outdated HoA rule that will most likely get overruled as mentioned about a similar situation in the video.
I will never understand people that will buy a very expensive house and then paid a monthly fee to have someone tell them what to do with their property.
Then you’ve never lived in a nice house, next to someone with 4 not running wheel less cars in their front yard. Or the dozen other examples I can give.
Back a few years ago I lived in a very small development of upscale homes. I owned a 4x4 Quad cab with an 8ft bed that was not a commercial vehicle and kept spotless. Shortly after moving in I got a notice from the President of the HOA that I would have to find somewhere else to park it because all vehicles had to be inside the garage at night. My truck wouldn't fit into the garage and they thought they had me. After being warned several times I showed up at the next homeowner's meeting. Since all of us only had a two car garage and many owners had at least 3, I told them when all owners stuffed their vehicles into their garage at night, I'd make other arrangements for mine. That was the end of the threats. HOA's decide to pick and choose what rules they want to apply so they better be ready to apply them all when they come after someone else.
Ah, America, land of free. Free, they said. You can't even park your own vehicle in your own yard. On the other world corner, a Communist China just settled an aerotaxi, a promise that American futurologist gave 100 years ago.
In many parts of the City here, Electric vehicles are NOT Allowed in Public parking Garages. Due to a Tesla 3 years ago catching fire in one in downtown. Taking with it nearly 200 other Normal vehicles and destroyed half of the Adjacent building.
Never buy into an HOA. These associations pose too much risk against individuals they don't like and their members are often Karens intoxicated with power who can do much harm if challenged.
Remember when they wanted people to leave their garages wide open? Yet, they don't want to see you (commercial) truck, RV in sight, only inside of your tiny garage.
Not all hoa’s are bad. For example I park my tow truck in my driveway. Also I park my semi truck in my driveway. Only problem is that in the winter we are not allowed to use salt on the ice, because of the airplanes, they cannot get rusted. And trust me if I had a steel plane I wouldn’t want it to rust either.
As a Building Inspector in South Florida for 37 years, I was called by a roofing contractor re: a 4:12 slope cement re-roof problem. The house was only 14 years old, and I was the original inspector. The workers were picking up the undamaged tiles by hand. The HOA behind closed doors required all roofs to be pressure cleaned twice a year, using bleach with the water. Resulting in the nails rusting off at the mopped slate underlayment, and the only thing holding the tiles in place was gravity. After the lawsuit, four of the six board members had to sell their homes to pay for 15 other houses with the same issue. Those HOA Boards can be dangerous and costly!!
That’s definitely an idea invented by Karens. That’s what HOAs are. Collective Karens. They’re a disease and should be constitutionally banned. Standalone houses shouldn’t have strata management. And no person should be beholden to other’s property values, even if their fears were true. You’re not required to prop up people’s businesses or stock values, or social security funds. Etc. you’re not required to prop up people’s crypto values. Or collectible items, intellectual property etc. but mandate it for a bunch of sociopath’s houses and they think that sounds about right.
This is an update regarding our Rivian Pick-up truck parked in our driveway.The Florida legislature passed bill, HB 1203, unanimously in March and was recently signed into law by Governor DeSantis. This bill makes some changes regarding Homeowners Associations. Specifically it states that “HOAs can’t ban residents from parking personal vehicles, including a pickup truck, or work vehicles - that aren’t commercial vehicles - on their property.”
There was an HOA right next to where I lived. They had really strict rules like not having your garage door open after a certain time. Your grass has to be completely green. You can’t water your lawn/ flowers/ anything after 2pm. They kept thinking that the entirety of my street had to abide by their rules and would send letters telling us that if we did not stop our “wrong residency practice” that we would be fined and taken to court. Our entire street decided to have a loud party with a slip n slide that lasted until 8pm. Never heard from them again
i had a neighbor next to me that moved to a HOA neighborhood the 2nd day he was there his truck leaked a little oil onto HIS driveway and the HOA sent a letter to clean it or face a $50. fine i think he realized he made a big mistake not staying put.
We should call them what they are bro. HOA Nazis 😂😂 where I live there isn't hoas and the only time anyone complained about much was when people moved in and started fist fighting in the street but everyone didn't like them so they ended up leaving and renting the property to someone else and then moving all together
@@johnp139 Yes, because they don't want "working class" people living in their neighborhood. They don't want people who use their vehicles for work. They want people who either don't do "manual" labor type positions which require a truck and/or they only want people who can afford multiple vehicles and can "hide" their trucks so their neighborhood gives off a certain appearance.
@@bradley3549 Also that trucks imply noise, either from running or from people working. Really, those rules are just there so they have something they can complain about. People disparage cops for being high school bullies who go on a power trip, but even the worst stereotypical example of that kind of person (probably a rent-a-cop tbh) has nothing on these gold plated piles of excrement. addendum: Once I was with a friend in a K5 Blazer with the open top up on Cape Cod. We were bringing another friend back to her cottage, which was in one of those little villages of cottages (over in Dennis, near the Yarmouth line, not far from Nantucket Sound) and a cop who was leaving the village (presumably there on some call, this was summer and there are a lot of idiot drunks on the Cape during the summer) actually prevented us from driving through the village. It was perhaps 2300 or so, maybe a little later, but before midnight. Physically prevented us from going in by blocking the entrance with his car. Probably wanted to feel like a man again after being castrated by whoever he was just dealing with. We told him where he could go with that (remember people, vulgarity is protected speech, gogo first amendment), pretended to go somewhere else and just drove around to another entrance to the village.
Imagine spending all that money on a house and a vehicle and some random people who will never matter are on a power trip wants to tell you how to live your life or literally pay for it… how are HOAs even legal?
It is snobbery. My old boss got a lot of crap from his exclusive community (not HOA) because he bought a brand new F150. He always wanted a pickup. He told them to pound sand. Still has his truck 2 decades later.
As a police officer and sheriff's deputy I got calls from HOA's to enforce their "rules" I would tell the HOA "Enforcer" that I had no authority or interest in enforcing their rules. Some of them would get really mad at me for not towing a car or telling a homeowner to close their garage door and would call internal affairs to complain. I would never live within any type of HOA or have a home with ridiculous deed restrictions (check your purchase paperwork a lot of homes have deed restrictions that can be enforced by neighbors) The concept was OK I guess in the beginning but the people on Saturday morning walking around with a clipboard and looking in my trash is not acceptable to me.
I grew up in a time where someone walking up to your house and telling you where you can park your vehicle was laughable..I still can't wrap my mind around how goofy people have become. They literally pay to pretend to own a home...but not just any home...one that comes with it's own little government to extract money from them and scrutinize their every move looking for an excuse to charge a fine. I'd rather live in a van DOWN BY THE RIVER!
"I still can't wrap my mind around how goofy people have become." So then, you wouldn't mind if I moved in next you and ran a jackhammer 24/7 right? While that's running, I'll probably test out some old air raid sirens. That's ok with you, right?
@@patrickhynes6058 It's an electric vehicle, if you can't see the problem with storing an electric car inside a trapped box directly connected to where you rest your head at night then you've got more problems than worrying about youtube videos.
@@conscripthornet4430 You are not correct - per a recent Kelly Blue Book study: "Kelly Blue Book reported on findings from a study that shows EV are actually less likely to cause or be involved in fires than gasoline-powered or hybrid vehicles. Data from the National Transportation Safety Board showed that EVs were involved in approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 sold. Comparatively, approximately 1,530 gasoline-powered vehicles and 3,475 hybrid vehicles were involved in fires for every 100,000 sold." Source: Data Shows EVs are Less of a Fire Risk than Conventional Cars, Published February 12, 2024, Fairfax County, Virginia, Office of Environmental and Energy Coordination
@@Nikowalker007 yes, but when this HOA was established, it was probably back in the 70's when trucks were associated with working class people, and had crank windows, no AC, and vinyl interior. A long shot from the modern movement in the late 90's to early 2000's of the luxury truck like Escalade, and Blackwood's. My HOA even dropped the pick up truck rule years before we moved in, pivoting to a "No work trucks: i.e.- no signage on the pickup. So there is an obvious distinction, and it sounds like this guy's HOA is purely gatekeeping and flexing their "We are the kings of the HOA, you're merely a surf" by trying to force his hand on a $100,000+ truck... When they themselves probably drive a luxo SUV. Not that long ago, SUV's were utilitarian just like pickups. It was the whole CAFE Fuel Regulations that made SUV's popular by automakers not revamping sedans and wagons, and going the cheaper route by pivoting to SUV's.
@@lexicat6177 it depends where you live. There aren't a lot here in NY, I happen to have one in my neighborhood, but it isn't super strict. But, it has been in effect since the neighborhood was built in 1984. And my in-laws live in Florida, and there seem to be a ton, and they date back pre-80's into the 70's. The older HOA's have some archaic rules.
We did the same thing when we were buying. The house we ended getting is technically in an HOA but it's just us and our neighbor. And the only dues are 200 dollars a year for well and road maintenance. Pretty much the only rule is we can't have a pig farm. We were ok with that.
Where I live 90% of homes in my city and are in an HOAs and the homes that are not in HOAs are either multi-million dollar "horse properties" or tiny old "starter homes". So I had to actually read and understand the HOA bylaws of any house I was interested in. It was a pain but helped me avoid situations like this and I was shocked at some of the crazy bylaws some HOAs had.
I have a HOA! They started getting on me about my grass being too tall when in fact it was not, on top of them bugging me about the side of my house being dirty when other houses are 100 times worse and still dirty! I basically told them to f**k off and they never bugged me again lol
I’ve spoken to people that have lived in Weston and I’ve heard many horror stories just like this. The cops are also insane and will ticket you for anything. I don’t know why people want to live there.
Well if it's a ticketable offense, obviously the cops would give you a ticket... They can't give you tickets for things that are not a ticketable offense. Would you want police just ignoring things like that? You want the police to just ignore people breaking the law because "they write too many tickets"....
@@BeccaHetrick Yes they should mind their business and stop harassing people trying to catch them on technicalities. How about actually helping people in need?
Simple. It’s a con.. if everyone in your street buys a electric car.. Your whole street will need to be updated to carry the draw load.. And then times that around America.. whoops it’s a con..
I work in mortgage and my department works directly with HOA’s. Over the past 5 years you can’t imagine some of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen them do to homeowners. I will NEVER buy a home with an association. Especially the large management companies.
Another thing to consider - most, if not all, SUVs are also legally considered “trucks” as most were originally adapted from pickup truck chassis. This popped up in many cities years ago that banned ‘trucks’ from boulevards! Most cities wisely reconsidered that situation regarding enforcement, and HOAs need to use similar common sense. One challenge that manufacturers HOAs face is that it can be difficult to revise their restrictions. Several years ago the Kansas City Star ran a whole series of articles titled “HOAs From Hell” outlining the massive legal problems that overzealous HOAs can get their neighborhoods (ie: their HOMEOWNERS) into. In one case cited, a local HOA sued a homeowner for a very frivolous violation, ended up losing in court to the sum of $400k in legal fees that the HOA (that is, by extension, the rest of the HOMEOWNERS) had to pay the homeowner whom they sued in reimbursement for his legal fees! Where I live, we have a good HOA in my opinion.
This is a BIG problem: the legal industry gets its greedy hands in everyday life. A truck owner had to pay $40,000 in legal fees to be allowed to park his truck at home!!! What blue collar worker could pay that in the first place such that he could win and get legal fees reimbursed, and maybe not win. The right person does not win often enough. And to have to fork up $40,000 just to play the game is scandalous
The number one reason why I would never buy a home with an HOA...... It was bad enough when I had to live next door to the subdivision that was built around me and they still wanted me to abide by their ridiculous rules
@@melindaunknown6411 wouldn't really work. You would need to be a goat farmer BEFORE the subdivision was built to not get sued by your neighbors or their HOA.
Once lived in an HOA house where it was against the rules to own a dog larger than 30 pounds, and they would regularly look at my very fluffy 25 pound dog and accuse me of her being over 30 pounds. It got so bad I had to get on a scale while holding the dog and show them that the dog's weight was well under the limit. When the HOA board member who bothered me most was killed in a car crash in which he was drunk I couldn't help but laugh.
The news reporter is citing a case dealing with a Condominium Owners Association (COA) and not an HOA. COA’s and HOA’s are not the same and are governed under 2 separate State of Florida Statutes. BTW, the $40K in legal fees the HOA/COA was required to pay by the court was on top of the legal fees the COA/HOA had to pay their one legal team, probably another $40K. So ultimately the home or unit owners paid out of their pocket for all of those legal fees.
The HOA forced me to destroy my boat or face fines that would force me to sell my house. Fight back like I did. I listed my house for half its value, price on the sign out front. I refused to sell when buyers offered. For years, people had to sell for less than they would have gotten or not sell. Screw your neighbors, they ARE the HOA.
I’d be surprised if this is true. If a potential buyers made a reasonable offer and you turned them down, you would have to make sure you didn’t potentially or imply a violation of any fair housing laws. Most realtor would be wise of it in no time, and a judge wouldn’t be forgiving of trying to screw over the HOA as a reason.
@@Thomas-fy9yc Pretty easy to prove you didn't discriminate. "I'm not actually selling the house. I just like the way the sign looks. The first amendment protects my right to do this."
I know a guy that lived in an HOA development and got out of everything by distracting people when buying the house and pocketed all the HOA paperwork. None of it ever got submitted, so he is not part of the HOA. When they tried to force him to follow the rules he took them to court and won, since he had never signed into the HOA. After winning he did everything he could to piss off the HOA. He parked a broke down rusty old junker on the street and his boat which under the rules was not allowed. They would check the trailer every day to see if there was even an inch or over his property line so they could have it removed. He finally sold the home after 10 years and since he never had any HOA paperwork he didnt have to disclose the house was under HOA and the new owners didn't have to sign any HOA agreement either.
Notice the rule is "no overnight parking" In other words, pick up trucks are allowed by the workers who come here to service our houses but we don't allow a vehicle from the lower class commoners.
He needs to check the legal definition of a "truck" in his state, as it likely does not apply to light duty pickup trucks, so the HOA can stuff it. I had an issue with an HOA at a previous house, but after reading the wording of the bylaws, and the legal definition of a "truck," I gave the HOA the middle finger, and there was nothing they could do about it.
Electric vehicles are extremely heavy probably more than 6000 lbs. HOA probably knows this and trying to flex their muscle. Remember these rules were probably written before evs really came in the picture. Thats y they talking about the 25 yr old rule. N if this dude owns a bussiness being over 6k lbs he can write the truck off as a work truck.
The interesting thing is Florida considers this a "Heavy Truck" which according to the statue, is not the same thing as a "truck". There's no mention of heavy trucks in the HOA agreement and if the vehicle isn't being used commercially, they have no claim.
Some people these days can't stand it if they aren't trying to control every aspect of someone else's life. Anybody that claims the Rivian is a work truck that would damage other homeowners property values is a fool.
The same nosey neighbors are the ones who nominate houses for historical preservation, typically Karens with too much time on their hands and have insecurity about change.
@Jack Bates I could see maybe some complaints if someone had a real rusty nasty old beater car in their driveway, that looked completely out of place in a nice neighborhood. Even then though all they would need to do is throw a car cover on it. But telling someone they cant have a super nice truck like that Rivian in their own driveway is beyond ridiculous.
This is exactly why when I purchased my new home I made sure there was no HOA! You are not going to tell me what I can and cannot do to my home that I worked hard and paid for! I just won’t have it!
Relax mosby the bank ownes your home they have deed not you. Since you just purchased you're mostly paying interest to your landlord the bank HOAs sometimes are good. You need to read all their terms and conditions. I would say majority of hoa properties do as intended keeping sidewalks/streets clean, bushes and trees trimmed. They also get into action when lazy neighbors don't clean the exterior of their house. It's also a great deterrent to keep lazy dirty people from purchasing near you. I would absolutely live in an hoa community because everything looks nice and clean.
For real, basically paying a fee to be babysat and controlled like a toddler after buying your own home. There's plenty of clean upscale neighborhoods without hoas, some people just need an authority figure to look over them for some reason..
@@260657df yeah upscale because we all have tens of thousands laying around and qualify for jumbo loans. How about you just read their hoa agreement before making an offer. Or ask the neighbors how the HOA treats them. Lookup property records to find the home owner whose been there the longest. Ask that person about the HOA.
Paying for an hoa is just paying someone to tell you what you can and can't do on your own property. I've bought two houses, both times I told the realtor I wouldn't consider an hoa. Both times, I've been happy with the house.
I have a nice home on 5 acres with no HOA. But of course, I now have a hoarder neighbor after my good neighbor got foreclosed on because of an ARM home equity loan (never get an ARM loan!!!). The banks get rid of good neighbors who take care of their property and sell it to scum bags. I'd still prefer this over an HOA because those usually get controlled by narcissistic hitler wanna bes who are on a power trip and want to dictate everything you do down to the type of curtains you choose. If I could afford it, I'd buy a home on enough acreage that I never had to see a neighbor.
@reesedaniel5835 the hoarding thing is an issue of its own magnitude. It's a sad mental health issue that hurts everyone. I rented a room in a hoarders house one time. They actually had an hoa, but they had hired people to come in and clear it out and clean before I went to see it but it got super bad crazy fast. I left before it became a big enough issue for the hoa to notice. Anyway, I'm sorry you have to deal with that. It's no way for anyone to live.
@@double_joseph327 ARM means Adjustibe Rate Mortgage. The bank can adjust the interest rate to virtually any number they choose and I can assure you, it will never go down, only up. This gives the bank the power to adjust it so high the borrower cannot repay the loan and they can foreclose at will. ARM loans are only for the financially stupid, or those who can pay it off fast (which defeats the purpose).
Its because good people just suffer under abusive behaviors and revolt agaisnt the rules rather than burning the next door neighbors home down which is surely going to decrease the average cost of the home in the neighborhood and thus lower your own as well.
@@martenkrueger8647 Nah. You’d be on vacation somewhere off grid when… what’s that you say??? Three HOA board member’s houses mysteriously caught fire and burned half way to the ground??? I’m sorry detective but I was on a fishing trip and have no idea what happened. But it’s a damn shame what happened to their homes and all. I wonder if they’re gonna stick around the neighborhood. I sure hope so, they’re such hospitable neighbors and all…
My mother worked for one of the largest HOA management companies in the United States for 20 years. The main goal is to get fines not protect peoples properties. They have fleets of vehicles that simply go around looking for fines, no matter how minor the supposed offense. The stories she has are astonishing. They always say the same thing, you should have read the bylaws, which are written by lawyers, and are often long, complicated, and vague enough to cause confusion. They do tend to back down if you get a lawyer but most people don't want to deal with lawyers and will pay the fine, which is what they are counting on.
Laws shouldn't be long and should be clear. There shouldna long list of laws for making laws readable for the common people if it's meant for them to follow
@@furyofbongos Yes. It's not supposed to go to the managers but to help finance the HOA itself. However, the managers make 100k+ salaries, company cars, bonuses, etc.. the money gets back to them in legal but still unethical way. My mother was just a secretary, so never saw any of that money but eventually she got tired of how corrupt and hypocritical these people were, so she quit. She now works at job that pays less and is a farther drive but she's happier than she's ever been getting away from those people. Moral to the story, being around good people will make you happier than making more money working for awful people.
@@krane15 Depends on the company/corporation and large associations are companies/corporations. The one my mother worked for had 500+ associations in 14 states. Everything I said is true. And as a contractor, whenever an association has anything go do with a project, the price goes up, a lot. Not always, but usually associations are awful to work for. You will have12 bosses, each one with conflicting views of how a project should be run and they are petty as hell and hate each other. Again not always but usually. The larger the association the more obnoxious they will be, the richer the association the more Karen's you'll find. This is pretty much a standard rule. I would rather deal with a federal government project than an HOA project and that's saying something.
What the HOA defines as a truck was probably intended as like a work truck with a box or panels on the back. Not a personal pickup truck. Antiquated HOA rules and too many Karen’s. I’m rooting for the homeowner!
@@randomizednamme Yeah, I was thinking, "What's wrong with a work truck". One of my neighbors parks his Freightliner in his front yard when he isn't on the road. No one is complaining.
Even when you win a lawsuit against your HOA you pay for it because the HOA just assesses the cost of the lawsuit to all the homeowners in the association to recoup the fine + attorney fees.
If HOA’s could get away with it, they would dictate when you go to the bathroom and when you went to bed at night. Never buy a home in a neighborhood that tells you what to do on your own property.
Unfortunately in some places it is nearly impossible to avoid buying a house in an HOA and you end up paying 100K to several million more for a non HOA property. Fortunately there are good HOAs full of people who dislike HOAs so the HOA is mostly focused on community property and has minimal private property bylaws. But you have to read the bylaws for any place you are even considering or you end up in one of the crazy restrictive HOA that don't allow ANY vehicle to be parked on your own driveway over night and you can't have bikes or toys or any equipment in your front yard overnight. I was like WTF this is for real??? And I noticed those HOAs usually have fees 4x higher than what I pay.
The alternative bro is to move somewhere with an HOA and ignore all their rules on purpose and then when they take you to court you can easily defend yourself. All you have to say is "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness"
This is exactly why I would NEVER live in an HOA! Imagine buying a nice house for $500k or better and still being told what you can and can’t do. Kick rocks!
Almost happened to me. I found a nice home in North Dallas near the Galleria for $1.2 million and was going to buy it. My realtor did their research and found out that while the HOA is relatively cheap ($78 for an entire year), I wasn’t allowed to park my truck in my driveway because that would devalue everyone else’s property. My Ford Raptor cost more than many of the luxury cars in that neighborhood, but “a vehicle meant for work/construction” is supposedly a negative sight. I ended up getting a nicer house around the same price without any HOA in Irving instead.
@@JacksonWalter735 So what you're saying is... you actually read the HOA agreement? And then you decided, before buying the house, whether or not the terms were acceptable to you? And as a result of this, you didn't buy a house in a place that had different preferred living standards than you? Well, hat's off to you for doing what you're supposed to do before buying a home.
@@brandon23471 lol like they can't enforce rule after you sign and buy the house 😂😂😂 all you need is a majority of no lifers living in the neighbourhood.
Damn, he's lucky. He got a notice. My best friend parked his F150 in front of my house and the HOA had it towed overnight. There was nothing in the bylaws about anything other than commercial vehicles with external markings or tool storage. Fortunately, we moved to owner-requested towing only and dissolved major parts of the HOA. I earned some enemies with the local predatory towing company. Oh well.
how did you dissolve the HOA? i own an apt and the HOA is trash, the management company keeps changing without any notice or any contact info, they refuse to do any repairs despite collecting >$500/mo from each resident, and i KNOW i'm not the only frustrated homeowner in my building
The same rules prevent residents from operating a massage parlor or hotdog stand at their home. You know this going in.. You sign a contract and give your word on your honor you will not park a truck in your driveway. I am reminded of the rock group that had in their contract that they would have a bowl of M&Ms in their dressing room with something like all the red ones removed. It seems silly but it was something everyone agreed upon and it was adhered to.
The best solution for an illegal tow is to report it stolen, then show up at the tow company. Demand it back, refuse to pay. When they refuse to give it back, break in and take it. In most areas, you're allowed to use reasonable force to reclaim your stolen property. I'd consider bolt-cutters or a Dremel on a lock 'reasonable'. Record the whole thing. Call the non-emergency line when you've left. Advise them that you reclaimed your stolen property from the thieves, but had to do a minor amount of damage to a couple locks to get it back.
@@guidedmeditation2396except the comment points out that there was no rule against trucks but they towed the vehicle anyways. I’d also say a hotdog stand and your own personal vehicle are in two different categories
I would not live in a gated community or HOA place in general BUT if a community chose to have & enforce certain rules, policy I could see that. 🏘 I've lived in apts where squatters, drugs, "trap" houses were common. The property mgmt refused to hire armed security or get a off duty deputy.
HOA in my dad's neighborhood; old lady was out in his driveway on his property with a ruler measuring the height of the rocks cemented into the border of his driveway. "These are more than 1.75in tall and will damage passing vehicles!" "Lady... it's my driveway. If people are "passing" these rocks they're driving in my yard! Get over yourself!" They tried to fine him for a road hazard and instead she wound up with a trespassing and stalking. He now has a restraining order against her and hasn't heard a single word from the HOA in over a year.
Haha! All this because god forbid a person sees a truck and thinks to themselves you know what the property value is gonna go down because we have working class people here.
Never EVER buy a house with an HOA unless your perfectly happy with any rules they could ever make up. Can't believe people ever got sucked into these traps to begin with.
Absolutely; I had nothing but nightmares with my previous home's HOA. There had been an ADT Security sign on the front lawn next to the door when I bought the house, and I never bothered to remove it; however, 16 years later, the HOA sent me a notice asking me to remove the sign or be fined.
People get sucked into them because their choices are either deal with an HOA, live in a neighborhood where gunshots at night are a regular occurence, or commute a long distance from a peewater little town where you can find a newer home without the HOA baloney.
This is exactly why I refused to buy a house with an association. I would rather live in a maytag box 📦 than deal with someone telling me what I can and can't do with a house I bought with my hard earned money.
@@c12onnor unincorporated is county. Depends on where you live and who the Board of Supervisors are as well as who works at code enforcement. They could be reasonable or not. I have battled with the county about a fence trespassers wanted removed by making me get a permit I wasn’t required to get. They literally complained to the government to remove a physical barrier so they could trespass easily.
I bought a house with no restrictions according to the realtor. Then the HOA came and said I couldn’t park my RV there. I told them that I was never told about any hoa and that they need to take it up with the realtor. That was 7 years ago and I’ve never heard another word about it.
I use to live in Weston and i bought a 2003 Dodge Ram single cab not knowing about the HOA rule. I brought it home the first day around 7 p.m. and the very next day i had a letter from the HOA saying i couldnt have it parked in the driveway. I was fortunate that it was a single cab because it just fit into the garage. I was born in Miami and lived there for 36 years until 2006 when i moved to NC it was the best move i ever made what a different world it is here and of course i bought a house with no HOA. Trucks now are nicer than a lot of cars but not being able to park it in your driveway is a complete joke.
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb I bought the house pre construction and bought the truck 6 years later. I had never had a HOA and growing up in my parents house there were no such things. So I had never heard of trucks not being able to parked in front of a house. It's actually something that needs to be changed. Most trucks now are nicer than cars it makes no sense for that kind of rule. So no I didn't read it if that makes you feel better about yourself being a tool yourself.
Both of the neighborhoods I have lived in have had HOA’s and even though they were strict about trailers & boats, never did they say anything about trucks. That’s utter ridiculous. Not all pickups are work vehicles like people envision them to be and it does not decrease the value & reputation of the vehicle it just shows that people have variety in the cars they purchase & actually shows that they work unlike the members of the HOA who are most likely stay-at-homes who only leave their house for their numerous plastic surgeries to look like an alien a couple times a week.
I agree to a point but would also agree with the neighborhood, HOA resident board rep. If you are moving or buying a condo, house, apt, property 🏘 read & know the policy, SOPs before you live there. The "ohhh I was unaware of that!" bit does not cut it.
@@ant2011 Ik, that’s what I said. Owning a work truck and having it in your driveway shows interested buyers in that area that successful people live there
@@chairmanofthebored8684 I don't care for electric vehicles. And I have hated HOAs for a long time, long before it was trending. They are parasitic organizations that dig in like ticks and and spread like diseases. It would be no different than someone pouring nuclear waste all over a neighborhood and saying "Oh, well everyone knows there's already nuclear waste everywhere so they shouldn't complain about it."
@@chairmanofthebored8684 I'm old enough to remember how much sport utility vehicles were railed against when Ford introduced the Explorer and Toyota debuted the Land Cruiser, back in the 80s. How is it that you completely ignore the concept of personal use vehicles that aren't for commercial use, such as this truck, that constitute the vast majority of vehicles sold in America? ... Not to mention that the pickup truck (and the similarly statured SUV) is all but the official vehicle of America. The world and society evolves and changes. So should the rules that govern it. Plain and simple. I'd be willing to put money down that the HOA will have to back off. Instead of clutching the outdated past, try evolving as the world changes. Just saying. 🧐
Your dictating too by living in a HOA. I bet you don't see cars on blocks or crackhouses in the neighborhood. No homeless or beggars. Move into one with yard services would be awesome.
Which isn't really a thing.....except it's something people who don't like EVs say. And guess what.....gas powered cars are more likely to catch fire than EVs!
It used to be, in a place I once lived, you could have a truck license plate on PUs or whatever plate ordinary cars had. Truck plates weren't allowed in certain places. Not many PUs had truck plates. If the State said it was a car then it was a car. The SUVs, Hummers, Broncos, Vans - how do they fare?
Except when he loses due to the agreement he signed when he bought the place. Then he will be the one paying all the legal fees. The truck clause is standard in HOA documents. Good luck finding one that doesn't have it.
@@lorrieguinn8221 Not smart. That was a very very rare case ruling. As long as the documents clearly state no trucks of any kind, which they do, he's going to end up getting nailed with all the legal fees for this little contest. If he wins they'll do a special assessment and he'll end up paying it anyway as well as all his neighbors - who will really love him for it.
I've only lived in one neighborhood that had an HOA. That had to have been the most chilled out board I've ever witnessed. Someone burned their entire yard down and the board pretty much said "well, at least the grass will grow back greener"😂🤧 The only thing they cared about was making sure someone didn't move in and allow their property to fall apart. They even allowed cars parked on the street if the need arises. Neighborhood looked great and thankfully no Karens.
Yeah, there are some decent ones out there. My in-laws live in one in metro Detroit. They have this little shed thing on the side of their house for storing yard tools rakes, brooms, shovels etc, you can't even fit a lawn mower in it unless you fold the handle and put it in sideways. It's made out of plastic, it's rubbermaid I think. It's made to go up against the side of your house. Anyway, he says that they've been bothering him about it for years and years, saying he needs to get rid of it because they're not allowed to have sheds in this neighborhood. He said he crumples up the letters they send about it and throws them out. They haven't tried to enforce it on him ever. Parking is allowed on the street on an as needed basis. No rules about having your garage door open or anything like that. I think it's just the bad HOAs that you hear about. To me it seems like they're either bad and overbearing or they're good and it's like they're not even there but then that leaves you wondering why you even need a HOA in the first place and what do the dues go towards.
@@carlbrown1000 I have a new home in Idaho and that sounds very similar to our HOA. The only time we heard from them was when a section of our front yard ha a big brown spot the sent us a letter. We called them and told them what we were doing about it and that it would have to wait until the spring for the repair since snow season was about to start and they had no problem. Now, that is my kind of HOA.
Being Brazilian it's very bizarre to me that some random association can dictate what you can do in a property you own, even when the property is not in a closed condominium
The idea behind the association is that you won't have any neighbors that let their house go or do something crazy that detracts from the look and image that would bring down the value of everyone's home. Like someone who won't cut their grass regularly, or paints their house a goofy color, or puts up stuff that is oddball. The problem is some of the HOA's ended up making stupid rules like not parking a truck in driveway and you get people running them are strict a-holes.
If you want to do anything you want to your property, buy 10 acres of land with no one around it and build your house on it. Chances are if you live in "urban, upscale and convenient" areas, there will be some sort of HOA.
@@itsatrap7215it’s only urbanites that defend HOA’s, they are intrinsincally ridiculous, if you hate what your neighbors might do its best to live far away from them.
@@javiervelez892not everyone wants to live in the middle of nowhere, and some people also don’t want RV’s sitting parked next to their house 24/7. They’re not intrinsically ridiculous, they just can be
@@nolan122No, HOA’s are ridiculous. It’s ridiculous that you have to pay to have someone tell you what you can and cannot do on your property and then they can take away your property if you don’t abide by them. That’s horseshit.
I said I’d never live in an HOA community but here I am living in one in CA. There is no rules about where to park your vehicles. We keep them in the driveway and use the garage for storage/gym. The HOA is $125 a month and covers landscaping around the community, 5 pools and several parks. It’s a nice community and the HOA keeps people from keeping trash and old car parts on their front lawns.
I don't think that HOA is necessarily a bad thing as long as the board applies common sense and is not used by individuals as a means to oppress the community.
The biggest problem with HOA's is that they elect grumpy senior citizens that have nothing better to do but to give people a hard time over a lot of nonsense. Obviously, some communities are worse than others, but I've dealt with some nonsense in the past.
"HOA's" are not "communities." We need to not let the "HOA" crime syndicate control the language. These are totally artificial fake "communities," not real neighborhoods. We need to ban "HOAs" altogether on detached homes across the U.S.A. and go back to real neighborhoods and towns.
Reminds me of the day my old HOA sent me a notice. We had two cars we parked in the garage. One became not as reliable so we added a new one (3 total). I parked the older one on the street and put a car cover on it to protect it (it had always been garaged). Got notice from the HOA about the car parked on the street with a cover. I called them up, with the rule book in hand, and asked what rule I broke (I could not find any). They told me I was right. I then asked if they had jurisdiction on the street. Again no, as it was a city owned street. So I asked why they sent a notice since I broke no rule, and additionally was not parked where the HOA had jurisdiction. Answer - Somebody complained (some Karen with a clipboard I guess). Anyway I told them they better throw that away and I better not hear any harassment again, since (1) I broke no rule and (2) even if I did they had no jurisdiction.
I hung my wetsuit on the patio for a few hours to dry which was a no no, so I got a letter from HOA stating that it’s against the rules to have anything in the patio that isn’t approved other than patio plants and furnitures. So I grabbed all 4 of my suits, and borrow 3 more from friends and hung them up like dead bodies inside my condo right up against the sliding door which opens to the patio, boy did those old board members have an aneurysm for 6 months. They came by and took pictures almost daily, sending letters weekly asking in a very passive aggressive way for me to take it down as it wasn’t aesthetically pleasing. Petty but worth it. (I moved after that).
Rule number 1, don't ever buy a house that is controlled by an HOA
Yea prob gated Community but . not worth the hassle HOA
I can't imagine paying the government taxes and then taxes again to fruity overlord neighbors
My parents HOA allows cars and trucks parked in driveways but, I still don’t want an HOA.
Made that decision few decades back after owning a property in an HOA for 6 months of misery.
It was a lot easier before developers would buy huge plots of land and only make HOAs available. The ratio of traditional neighborhoods to HOAs is shrinking every year. I think it might be time to regulate these developments.
This just made me so happy to hear the story of an H.O.A. having to reimburse a person for their attorney fees. Keep up the happy stories in these tough times. People need it.
They know exactly what they're enforcing isn't right, but they're sitting on a Mountain full of cash & will attempt to win that way.
I’m on an HOA board here in Austin, TX….we had an owner paint his house a nice clean white color before putting it up,for sale ……unfortunately for him he didn’t read the HOA paint guidelines of neutral beige colors only……he went to closing and saw the cost of repainting ($15,000) added to his closing costs…..he of course paid up at closing.
@@3101home And you feel good about doing that to someone?
@@tim3172 I specifically didn’t do anything to this resident who didn’t obey the HOA rules….the HOA did it by enforcing the rules. I sleep well at night knowing democratic rule of laws & rules is justified. I also feel good about contributing as an HOA board member volunteering my free time to enhance my civic responsibility.
@@3101homeobeying a ridiculous rule is the problem. Is like if I tell you dont the restroom unless the sky is blue. So it makes you a Karen when you enforce it. I am pretty sure you will disagree with me so lets just move on.
Imagine owning a house and having other people tell you what you can do with it
Right. I hate HOA’s!
That's what HOA's do
@@BeccaHetrick I'm aware
Sounds Un-American.
Yeah but he doesn't own the land. He might own what's on top of it 😂😂😂 that's why you buy your land than build
I think "no overnight pickup outside rule" was there to keep out certain working class people away from the neighborhood.
Yes.
No it is to keep trucks from being seen
The rule is to keep people from parking work vehicles in the neighborhood. My HOA clearly defines work vehicles whereas this one just says “trucks” which is very outdated. This guy has a 100k luxury vehicle.
You know you are living around the wrong types of people where a work truck is considered a bad thing
Sadly he himself is that type of person. He has lived there for decades and had no problems with the rules up till it affected him personally.
@@Khalifrio well he literally didn’t even know the rule existed
@@HoloScope That's not the point.
Edit: (Re: Cont:) reply (my) to username: @derpixonisagreatname7153: For those still trying to ride the Rivian's owner: Hitting you up before your comment gets buried. That's still besides the point. The point is he voted for policy year in and year out. This is about the concept of the work ethic. HOA's committe consists of memebers who at the same time have a beurocratic responsibility.
If he read it or not, it's irrelevant. He only pointed it out when it affected him personally. Reminds me of how politicians operate. It's absolutely terrible.
@@HoloScope that's why you should... gee idk, read the contract that you signed when you purchased the house? 🤦♀
That ain’t no work truck! Thats a piece of art! Id be proud to see that in my neighborhood.
Imagine paying hundreds of thousands for a house, PLUS extra HOA fees for the privilege of being told what you can and can't do with your home.
Well, they want to be special and enclaved, thus, they are.
But that is how it works, so no need to imagine. It's all in writing before you buy the home and only subsequent amendments change anything.
Happens every day. You need to balance the hassle with the advantages. Or do like our relatives and run for the HOA board and get rid of the old members that are out of touch with the current living situations.
In that area, you're probably talking $ 1 million + for a home.
Sounds like any number of higher-end manufactured home communities.
Technically, SUVs are classified as trucks. I wonder how many residents have Range Rovers or Tahoes sitting in their driveways.
What about the compact crossover segment? Would that vary by state? Did Massachusetts if you have a car like a Subaru Forester are Toyota RAV4 the registration we'll have the vehicle listed as an SUV. If the ivian here had a cap on it it would look like it's SUV counterpart.
Ford expedition MAX is "farm equipment" 🤔🤔🤔
Good point
SUVs aren't trucks! Trucks are much larger. An Isuzu Nls (for example) is a truck. An SUV and the vehicle in this video are not trucks. -Although I also don't think they should be classified as cars, because they're far too big.
In Australia, we have a huge problem (no pun intended) with the popularity of those sorts of over-sized vehicles taking up far too much space in parking bays.
@@jublywubly SUVs are built on truck chassis and are considered trucks by the government so they can have lower safety standards AND so SUV gas mileage doesn’t count against a manufacturer’s average fleet gas mileage.
Back in 2017, HOA tried to seize my 1975 Lamborghini Countach and 2003 Ferrari F430 because "It reduced everyone's house value". When I didn't let them take it they put a boot on both my cars, I cut it off (they scratched the rims on both my cars putting on the boot) and they tried to sue me for it. and lost the case I sued them back for about 1.8 for Emotional damage, trespassing, and Vandalism. 4 of the HOA board members were forced to sell their houses to pay me. when I won I threw a massive street party and HOA didn't say a word to me.
My neighbor had the same problem with his '02 Bugatti Centodieci, the HOA claimed they didn't like it parked on the street. He said it was because they didn't like him cranking the Beastie Boys at four in the morning on its Richter-scale sound system, the two-foot lift kit, or that he had removed the trunk lid and installed a stripper pole. The HOA tried to boot it but didn't have one that fit 36" spinning rims.
You guys are living the life. Man I am unreasonably jealous, good on you two for being successful.
Was there a news story about this. I wanna read about it
Was there a news story about this? I wanna read about it.
This story made my day
I love how you can’t park in your own driveway but you can park in the street.
Of course.
Then, the association can have the vehicle towed with the excuse that you shouldn't park on the street and should use the driveway.
Their beef is that is is a "truck"
@@r6u356une56ney Why is truck in quotes
@@goodgremlinmedia2757 because that's how it identifies
@@goodgremlinmedia2757 because the outdated implication of "truck" is that it must be a work vehicle and not a personal vehicle. Because people don't own "trucks" for personal use.
He should go back to the HOA and give them an ultimatum. He gets to keep the truck parked where it is or he will put up a 40 foot tall HAM radio antenna. (Note: HOAs can’t stop you from putting up a HAM radio antenna because it is protected by federal law)
How about putting a bed cap / topper / camper shell ( no higher than the cabs roof ) to make it look like a SUV?
@@bobroberts2371 How about taking the Neo Nazi neuvo Communist HOA down a few pegs
@@pablopicaro7649 First off, don't move in to a HOA area if you can't abide by the rules. Second, putting a cap on the truck to make it look like a SUV would cause the HOA's head to explode because while it is a truck, it looks like an SUV.
Ban an SUV looking vehicle and ALL SUV's in the area would need to be banned. Intelligent people use intellect and IQ vs your random rant.
This is the difference between playing chess and hopscotch. . .. .. . .
OMG I hope this is true. Will research and share with others if so. Amazing
or a bat roost in one of the yards. federally protected species
There is a retired guy who has a bench in his yard that he sits on every day to look at nature, and of course, the HOA wanted the bench removed because it was an eye sore to them.
psychos
I'm glad I inherited my house from my dad before the HOA formed. An HOA was forming in my neighborhood, and because I was not apart of it when it formed, I can not be forced to join. Every single one of their rules I break on purpose because they can't do a thing about it. I'm considering painting my house just to give them a middle finger. It's fully paid off so I have the money to spare.
Do they leave you alone or do they try to pressure you to do things?
@@robertknight4672 Every time they step near my property, they get a giant middle finger.
if i lived near you , i would help you paint it for free :)
Or you could be nice.
Paint it purple 😂
I love the heart warming story of an H.O.A. having to pay $40k. I plan on telling this as a bed time story for years to come.
Care to guess where the HOA gets the $40,000. that warms your heart? They are not the Federal Government and don't have the luxury of printing money
They'll just raise dues to make up for it.
Who do you think the HOA gets the funds from to pay the bill?
@@TheCobruhAlienat0r an HOA that cannot pay it's bills is insolvent, and will be dissolved by the court. As in, they can't raise dues.
@@TheCobruhAlienat0r good HOA members should suffer for their stupid rules such as this. If I had this case I would sue the hell outta them, win my case, and then sell 😂 I would never want to be a part of an HOA in the first place tbh because there are plenty of neighborhoods that are just as nice without them.. they cause more problems than they are worth..
HOA’s are just a way for an elite few homeowners to lord over the other residents like serfs.
The serfs accept it. Or should we call them simps?
So glad I sold my previous home and got out of the HOA. Freedom!
@@jamesr2888in this case, these simps wear red hats all day everyday and preach fake freedom. 😂
The hoa mad cause they can’t afford one
Their not elite their thefts
I worked for a water department one of the HOAs we served told us we couldn't drive our trucks into their area. The department head told them okay we will just shut off the water to your area if something happens. They were happy with that for about a month. Then they had a water main break so we shut off the water to the 180 homes in the HOA After about 12 hours the changed their rules allowing trucks to travel their roads so we fixed it.
"It may hurt our property value." 😂😂😂 $100k truck is an eye sore? 😂
It’s rivian yes it’s a eyesore
I'd be more concerned about what it's going to do to the property value when people find out they could be fined for parking their own vehicle in their own driveway. I don't know many people that would buy a house with rules like that.
Nah, Rivian has some problems here and there, but they look rather nice
He might of meant, that the homes will not be worth as much because a HOA owner cannot own this truck, or a cyber truck, so its future price will be lower compared to a house
That will allow you the freedom to own a truck.
If he payed $100k for a truck he probably is stupid enough to live in an HOA.
they detected a smidge of happiness and descended upon him immediately
Yes, they're probably jealous that he has gotten so many positive inquiries about the truck.
Well, I love the truck. But parking it in the front yard and running a cord out to charge it looks janky as hell. Park it inside!
@@BigKandRtv It's his house, he should be able to charge his vehicle however he likes.
@@jaredschmidt4614 Jared, Can you open a dance club in the middle of a cemetery? No. The idea that land has restricted use is older than you and I combined. Naivety is no excuse. If you buy a house in a covenant neighborhood and expect to ignore the rules, that’s called a Karen. Don’t be a Karen.
@@BigKandRtv we were talking about charging, not the outdated HoA rule that will most likely get overruled as mentioned about a similar situation in the video.
I will never understand people that will buy a very expensive house and then paid a monthly fee to have someone tell them what to do with their property.
Then you’ve never lived in a nice house, next to someone with 4 not running wheel less cars in their front yard. Or the dozen other examples I can give.
See if you feel the same way when a crack house is your neighbor and you have no recourse. Something something baby with bathwater
@@Existentialprophet I been a home owner for nearly 50 years and never had a "crackhouse" near my house, nor my house have lost value.
@@jamesbizs yeah the HOA is perfect until you actually need them.
HOAs have broad support lol
The vast majority of people like them. It's wild.
Back a few years ago I lived in a very small development of upscale homes. I owned a 4x4 Quad cab with an 8ft bed that was not a commercial vehicle and kept spotless. Shortly after moving in I got a notice from the President of the HOA that I would have to find somewhere else to park it because all vehicles had to be inside the garage at night. My truck wouldn't fit into the garage and they thought they had me. After being warned several times I showed up at the next homeowner's meeting. Since all of us only had a two car garage and many owners had at least 3, I told them when all owners stuffed their vehicles into their garage at night, I'd make other arrangements for mine. That was the end of the threats. HOA's decide to pick and choose what rules they want to apply so they better be ready to apply them all when they come after someone else.
Ah, America, land of free. Free, they said. You can't even park your own vehicle in your own yard.
On the other world corner, a Communist China just settled an aerotaxi, a promise that American futurologist gave 100 years ago.
In many parts of the City here, Electric vehicles are NOT Allowed in Public parking Garages. Due to a Tesla 3 years ago catching fire in one in downtown. Taking with it nearly 200 other Normal vehicles and destroyed half of the Adjacent building.
Pretty smart
Never buy into an HOA. These associations pose too much risk against individuals they don't like and their members are often Karens intoxicated with power who can do much harm if challenged.
Remember when they wanted people to leave their garages wide open?
Yet, they don't want to see you (commercial) truck, RV in sight, only inside of your tiny garage.
Kevins too?
Not all hoa’s are bad. For example I park my tow truck in my driveway. Also I park my semi truck in my driveway. Only problem is that in the winter we are not allowed to use salt on the ice, because of the airplanes, they cannot get rusted. And trust me if I had a steel plane I wouldn’t want it to rust either.
How do you not buy into a HOA nowadays?
@@jygb7092 I don't understand your question.
As a Building Inspector in South Florida for 37 years, I was called by a roofing contractor re: a 4:12 slope cement re-roof problem. The house was only 14 years old, and I was the original inspector. The workers were picking up the undamaged tiles by hand. The HOA behind closed doors required all roofs to be pressure cleaned twice a year, using bleach with the water. Resulting in the nails rusting off at the mopped slate underlayment, and the only thing holding the tiles in place was gravity. After the lawsuit, four of the six board members had to sell their homes to pay for 15 other houses with the same issue. Those HOA Boards can be dangerous and costly!!
That’s definitely an idea invented by Karens. That’s what HOAs are. Collective Karens. They’re a disease and should be constitutionally banned. Standalone houses shouldn’t have strata management. And no person should be beholden to other’s property values, even if their fears were true. You’re not required to prop up people’s businesses or stock values, or social security funds. Etc. you’re not required to prop up people’s crypto values. Or collectible items, intellectual property etc. but mandate it for a bunch of sociopath’s houses and they think that sounds about right.
Thanks that you made sure that the right people had to bleed for that one.
@@paxundpeace9970 video Is only 2 min long where is 4:12?
@@Joseph-bm7ez He is referring to the pitch/slope/angle of the roof; not a time stamp.
@@Joseph-bm7ez Derp derp derp
This is an update regarding our Rivian Pick-up truck parked in our driveway.The Florida legislature passed bill, HB 1203, unanimously in March and was recently signed into law by Governor DeSantis. This bill makes some changes regarding Homeowners Associations. Specifically it states that “HOAs can’t ban residents from parking personal vehicles, including a pickup truck, or work vehicles - that aren’t commercial vehicles - on their property.”
Someone's on a power trip at that HOA.
power trip?😂😂😂
@@sps244 you could say they're all jolt up
There was an HOA right next to where I lived. They had really strict rules like not having your garage door open after a certain time. Your grass has to be completely green. You can’t water your lawn/ flowers/ anything after 2pm.
They kept thinking that the entirety of my street had to abide by their rules and would send letters telling us that if we did not stop our “wrong residency practice” that we would be fined and taken to court. Our entire street decided to have a loud party with a slip n slide that lasted until 8pm. Never heard from them again
Until 8 PM!?!
You guys living the savage life out there.
i had a neighbor next to me that moved to a HOA neighborhood the 2nd day he was there his truck leaked a little oil onto HIS driveway and the HOA sent a letter to clean it or face a $50. fine i think he realized he made a big mistake not staying put.
HOA president here. That's unacceptable. What a way to decrease neighborhood value.
@@sailawaybob that was a wild story bob
We should call them what they are bro. HOA Nazis 😂😂 where I live there isn't hoas and the only time anyone complained about much was when people moved in and started fist fighting in the street but everyone didn't like them so they ended up leaving and renting the property to someone else and then moving all together
"We are so privileged that we didn't even want to see a vehicle ever representing work (even if it isn't) in our neighbourhood."
Ding ding ding. These rules were created specifically to ensure the people they view as "undesirable" don't live in their neighborhood.
@@jawsch But the rules specify prohibit TRUCKS.
@@johnp139 Yes, because they don't want "working class" people living in their neighborhood. They don't want people who use their vehicles for work.
They want people who either don't do "manual" labor type positions which require a truck and/or they only want people who can afford multiple vehicles and can "hide" their trucks so their neighborhood gives off a certain appearance.
@@johnp139 And there is a mentality that people who drive trucks are blue collar working class people and snooty people don't like that.
@@bradley3549 Also that trucks imply noise, either from running or from people working.
Really, those rules are just there so they have something they can complain about. People disparage cops for being high school bullies who go on a power trip, but even the worst stereotypical example of that kind of person (probably a rent-a-cop tbh) has nothing on these gold plated piles of excrement.
addendum: Once I was with a friend in a K5 Blazer with the open top up on Cape Cod. We were bringing another friend back to her cottage, which was in one of those little villages of cottages (over in Dennis, near the Yarmouth line, not far from Nantucket Sound) and a cop who was leaving the village (presumably there on some call, this was summer and there are a lot of idiot drunks on the Cape during the summer) actually prevented us from driving through the village. It was perhaps 2300 or so, maybe a little later, but before midnight. Physically prevented us from going in by blocking the entrance with his car. Probably wanted to feel like a man again after being castrated by whoever he was just dealing with. We told him where he could go with that (remember people, vulgarity is protected speech, gogo first amendment), pretended to go somewhere else and just drove around to another entrance to the village.
Imagine spending all that money on a house and a vehicle and some random people who will never matter are on a power trip wants to tell you how to live your life or literally pay for it… how are HOAs even legal?
Imagine actually reading the HOA rules before spending all that money on a house, to make sure you agree with the rules. Quite a concept, right?
@@brandon23471No, just no.
It is snobbery. My old boss got a lot of crap from his exclusive community (not HOA) because he bought a brand new F150. He always wanted a pickup. He told them to pound sand. Still has his truck 2 decades later.
As a police officer and sheriff's deputy I got calls from HOA's to enforce their "rules" I would tell the HOA "Enforcer" that I had no authority or interest in enforcing their rules. Some of them would get really mad at me for not towing a car or telling a homeowner to close their garage door and would call internal affairs to complain. I would never live within any type of HOA or have a home with ridiculous deed restrictions (check your purchase paperwork a lot of homes have deed restrictions that can be enforced by neighbors) The concept was OK I guess in the beginning but the people on Saturday morning walking around with a clipboard and looking in my trash is not acceptable to me.
Thank you for your service, and more so for being realistic and honest dealing with these pricks & Karens.
Thank you Sir for not doing that. Those HOA rules are ridiculous
Respect to you for not listening to those Karens! We pay $650/yr and we get no pools/ gym etc! Literally a scam in plain sight
“police officer and sheriff's deputy”. Are you president of the United States as well? 🤣😂🤣😂
WOW. That’s a whole nother level of power tripping that they thought law enforcement was supposed to be involved in enforcement of their rules
It's actually pretty disgusting how they judge working mens vehicles as unsightly. A lot of those guys are your plumbers, electricians etc.
They don't want to be reminded of the poors while at home.
Try driving your patrol car home from work.
They really hate cops in these HOAs.
Well they are unsightly. The problem is, not all trucks are.
HoAs suck either way.
Probably a liberal neighborhood.
@@OKOKOKOKOKOKOK-zn2fy but everyone hates cops
I grew up in a time where someone walking up to your house and telling you where you can park your vehicle was laughable..I still can't wrap my mind around how goofy people have become. They literally pay to pretend to own a home...but not just any home...one that comes with it's own little government to extract money from them and scrutinize their every move looking for an excuse to charge a fine. I'd rather live in a van DOWN BY THE RIVER!
"I still can't wrap my mind around how goofy people have become." So then, you wouldn't mind if I moved in next you and ran a jackhammer 24/7 right? While that's running, I'll probably test out some old air raid sirens. That's ok with you, right?
Let me guess...You live in an HOA neighborhood...and your the HOA snitch with the presidents # on speeddial.@@brandon23471
@@brandon23471You can get the cops called on you for disturbing the peace, no HOA necessary.
@@brandon23471that’s an exaggerated stretch lol
@@brandon23471 Noise complaints dont only exist in HOA neoghborhoods you friggin dingus.
"I dont have room in my garage..." 😂
Um….clean out your garage? Problem solved?
@@patrickhynes6058do we know if the truck is longer than the garage?
I would not park an EV inside my garage. Much too dangerous.
@@patrickhynes6058 It's an electric vehicle, if you can't see the problem with storing an electric car inside a trapped box directly connected to where you rest your head at night then you've got more problems than worrying about youtube videos.
@@conscripthornet4430 You are not correct - per a recent Kelly Blue Book study: "Kelly Blue Book reported on findings from a study that shows EV are actually less likely to cause or be involved in fires than gasoline-powered or hybrid vehicles. Data from the National Transportation Safety Board showed that EVs were involved in approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 sold. Comparatively, approximately 1,530 gasoline-powered vehicles and 3,475 hybrid vehicles were involved in fires for every 100,000 sold." Source: Data Shows EVs are Less of a Fire Risk than Conventional Cars, Published February 12, 2024, Fairfax County, Virginia, Office of Environmental and Energy Coordination
You know you're in an HOA rooted in owners that have been there since the 70's when they don't realize that pick ups are now luxury vehicles.
They need to update theirs documents.
Even luxury /premium truck is still a truck 😅
@@Nikowalker007 yes, but when this HOA was established, it was probably back in the 70's when trucks were associated with working class people, and had crank windows, no AC, and vinyl interior.
A long shot from the modern movement in the late 90's to early 2000's of the luxury truck like Escalade, and Blackwood's. My HOA even dropped the pick up truck rule years before we moved in, pivoting to a "No work trucks: i.e.- no signage on the pickup.
So there is an obvious distinction, and it sounds like this guy's HOA is purely gatekeeping and flexing their "We are the kings of the HOA, you're merely a surf" by trying to force his hand on a $100,000+ truck... When they themselves probably drive a luxo SUV. Not that long ago, SUV's were utilitarian just like pickups. It was the whole CAFE Fuel Regulations that made SUV's popular by automakers not revamping sedans and wagons, and going the cheaper route by pivoting to SUV's.
@@Staatus_Quo Many of today's HOA's are new they have them in Ohio
@@lexicat6177 it depends where you live. There aren't a lot here in NY, I happen to have one in my neighborhood, but it isn't super strict. But, it has been in effect since the neighborhood was built in 1984.
And my in-laws live in Florida, and there seem to be a ton, and they date back pre-80's into the 70's. The older HOA's have some archaic rules.
We’re looking to buy a house. If it has HOA fees, we automatically skip it. HOA fees are you paying someone to harass you.
We did the same thing when we were buying. The house we ended getting is technically in an HOA but it's just us and our neighbor. And the only dues are 200 dollars a year for well and road maintenance. Pretty much the only rule is we can't have a pig farm. We were ok with that.
I told my realtor to keep hoas out of any lists! I won't even look at it
Where I live 90% of homes in my city and are in an HOAs and the homes that are not in HOAs are either multi-million dollar "horse properties" or tiny old "starter homes". So I had to actually read and understand the HOA bylaws of any house I was interested in. It was a pain but helped me avoid situations like this and I was shocked at some of the crazy bylaws some HOAs had.
I have a HOA! They started getting on me about my grass being too tall when in fact it was not, on top of them bugging me about the side of my house being dirty when other houses are 100 times worse and still dirty! I basically told them to f**k off and they never bugged me again lol
Then the HOA's are working as intended.
I’ve spoken to people that have lived in Weston and I’ve heard many horror stories just like this. The cops are also insane and will ticket you for anything. I don’t know why people want to live there.
rich man's world is an orderly man's world. next they'll ask for your papers passing by
Well if it's a ticketable offense, obviously the cops would give you a ticket... They can't give you tickets for things that are not a ticketable offense. Would you want police just ignoring things like that? You want the police to just ignore people breaking the law because "they write too many tickets"....
@@BeccaHetrickbootlicker
@@BeccaHetrick Yes they should mind their business and stop harassing people trying to catch them on technicalities. How about actually helping people in need?
Its amazing how much hate one can get over a vehicle
Haha. Aye Americans are the greatest hypocrites
Simple. It’s a con.. if everyone in your street buys a electric car..
Your whole street will need to be updated to carry the draw load..
And then times that around America.. whoops it’s a con..
Americans have been "groomed" to hate on the daily for decades...
That’s crazy
Are you free or are u dom?
I work in mortgage and my department works directly with HOA’s. Over the past 5 years you can’t imagine some of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen them do to homeowners. I will NEVER buy a home with an association. Especially the large management companies.
Thanks for the tip
Im assuming HOA is an equivalent to union
@@gregi787 nope. hoa is "management". unions (or residents rights groups) represent the little guy that hoa's rule over.
@@gregi787 you can say that. Lol
Give us your top ten please :)
Another thing to consider - most, if not all, SUVs are also legally considered “trucks” as most were originally adapted from pickup truck chassis. This popped up in many cities years ago that banned ‘trucks’ from boulevards! Most cities wisely reconsidered that situation regarding enforcement, and HOAs need to use similar common sense.
One challenge that manufacturers HOAs face is that it can be difficult to revise their restrictions.
Several years ago the Kansas City Star ran a whole series of articles titled “HOAs From Hell” outlining the massive legal problems that overzealous HOAs can get their neighborhoods (ie: their HOMEOWNERS) into. In one case cited, a local HOA sued a homeowner for a very frivolous violation, ended up losing in court to the sum of $400k in legal fees that the HOA (that is, by extension, the rest of the HOMEOWNERS) had to pay the homeowner whom they sued in reimbursement for his legal fees! Where I live, we have a good HOA in my opinion.
This is a BIG problem: the legal industry gets its greedy hands in everyday life. A truck owner had to pay $40,000 in legal fees to be allowed to park his truck at home!!! What blue collar worker could pay that in the first place such that he could win and get legal fees reimbursed, and maybe not win. The right person does not win often enough. And to have to fork up $40,000 just to play the game is scandalous
The number one reason why I would never buy a home with an HOA...... It was bad enough when I had to live next door to the subdivision that was built around me and they still wanted me to abide by their ridiculous rules
Did you tell them to go pound sand?
I would shooting in my back yard lol
@@Dr.pikachuu Or become a goat farmer.
@@melindaunknown6411 wouldn't really work. You would need to be a goat farmer BEFORE the subdivision was built to not get sued by your neighbors or their HOA.
Well we hope you bucked them!!😂
Once lived in an HOA house where it was against the rules to own a dog larger than 30 pounds, and they would regularly look at my very fluffy 25 pound dog and accuse me of her being over 30 pounds. It got so bad I had to get on a scale while holding the dog and show them that the dog's weight was well under the limit. When the HOA board member who bothered me most was killed in a car crash in which he was drunk I couldn't help but laugh.
Dark ending but couldn't help but laughing.
rip bozo 💀
The ending made me chuckle. Totally unexpected.
I do love a happy ending 😊
That ending is messed up but I'd be lying if I said I don't agree. Can't imagine anyone messing with my dog like that.
The news reporter is citing a case dealing with a Condominium Owners Association (COA) and not an HOA. COA’s and HOA’s are not the same and are governed under 2 separate State of Florida Statutes. BTW, the $40K in legal fees the HOA/COA was required to pay by the court was on top of the legal fees the COA/HOA had to pay their one legal team, probably another $40K. So ultimately the home or unit owners paid out of their pocket for all of those legal fees.
in what World do we live in when you cannot park your own vehicle in your own driveway?
The HOA forced me to destroy my boat or face fines that would force me to sell my house. Fight back like I did. I listed my house for half its value, price on the sign out front. I refused to sell when buyers offered. For years, people had to sell for less than they would have gotten or not sell. Screw your neighbors, they ARE the HOA.
Not bad. Lol. Well done
I’d be surprised if this is true. If a potential buyers made a reasonable offer and you turned them down, you would have to make sure you didn’t potentially or imply a violation of any fair housing laws. Most realtor would be wise of it in no time, and a judge wouldn’t be forgiving of trying to screw over the HOA as a reason.
@@Thomas-fy9yc Pretty easy to prove you didn't discriminate. "I'm not actually selling the house. I just like the way the sign looks. The first amendment protects my right to do this."
@@Thomas-fy9yc ...lol, ofcourse it's not true...this is the dumbest post on this story yet...
@NaptownClassic The first amendment only protects speech from being suppressed by a government entity, not an HOA, that you signed a contract with....
I know a guy that lived in an HOA development and got out of everything by distracting people when buying the house and pocketed all the HOA paperwork. None of it ever got submitted, so he is not part of the HOA. When they tried to force him to follow the rules he took them to court and won, since he had never signed into the HOA. After winning he did everything he could to piss off the HOA. He parked a broke down rusty old junker on the street and his boat which under the rules was not allowed. They would check the trailer every day to see if there was even an inch or over his property line so they could have it removed. He finally sold the home after 10 years and since he never had any HOA paperwork he didnt have to disclose the house was under HOA and the new owners didn't have to sign any HOA agreement either.
Was that in Florida?
What a beautiful story
I’ll take things that never happened for $500
That homeowners name, Albert Einstein.
Gigachadism
Well, the dude does have a three car garage?!
And apparently the car is too large for it. Isn't it ridiculous how cars got too big for rich people's garages?
Notice the rule is "no overnight parking"
In other words, pick up trucks are allowed by the workers who come here to service our houses but we don't allow a vehicle from the lower class commoners.
He needs to check the legal definition of a "truck" in his state, as it likely does not apply to light duty pickup trucks, so the HOA can stuff it.
I had an issue with an HOA at a previous house, but after reading the wording of the bylaws, and the legal definition of a "truck," I gave the HOA the middle finger, and there was nothing they could do about it.
Yep, is this a pick-up or a truck? This should be clearly defined with a GVWR in pounds or class size.
Electric vehicles are extremely heavy probably more than 6000 lbs. HOA probably knows this and trying to flex their muscle. Remember these rules were probably written before evs really came in the picture. Thats y they talking about the 25 yr old rule. N if this dude owns a bussiness being over 6k lbs he can write the truck off as a work truck.
The interesting thing is Florida considers this a "Heavy Truck" which according to the statue, is not the same thing as a "truck". There's no mention of heavy trucks in the HOA agreement and if the vehicle isn't being used commercially, they have no claim.
@@D44rkFx yea the rivian is 7100 lbs. Someone from hoa knows this and is trying to flex.
@@capo337g Trucks go by GVWR and class. The Rivian R1T has a low GVWR of 8500.
Still amazes me that anyone would even think about what's parked in a neighbor's driveway...let alone take issue with it.
Some people these days can't stand it if they aren't trying to control every aspect of someone else's life. Anybody that claims the Rivian is a work truck that would damage other homeowners property values is a fool.
The same nosey neighbors are the ones who nominate houses for historical preservation, typically Karens with too much time on their hands and have insecurity about change.
it bothers me if a neighbor parks an RV in their driveway because it blocks my vision when im leaving my own parking lot.
Think back 20-25 years ago. XYZ Landscaping and Lawn care. Pickups back then didn't have heated and ventilated leather seats with power tail gates.
@Jack Bates I could see maybe some complaints if someone had a real rusty nasty old beater car in their driveway, that looked completely out of place in a nice neighborhood. Even then though all they would need to do is throw a car cover on it. But telling someone they cant have a super nice truck like that Rivian in their own driveway is beyond ridiculous.
What a clown world. Good job people.
Your mistake, Gordon, was made 27 years ago.
This is exactly why when I purchased my new home I made sure there was no HOA! You are not going to tell me what I can and cannot do to my home that I worked hard and paid for! I just won’t have it!
Yes you right
Relax mosby the bank ownes your home they have deed not you. Since you just purchased you're mostly paying interest to your landlord the bank
HOAs sometimes are good. You need to read all their terms and conditions. I would say majority of hoa properties do as intended keeping sidewalks/streets clean, bushes and trees trimmed. They also get into action when lazy neighbors don't clean the exterior of their house. It's also a great deterrent to keep lazy dirty people from purchasing near you.
I would absolutely live in an hoa community because everything looks nice and clean.
Agreed
For real, basically paying a fee to be babysat and controlled like a toddler after buying your own home.
There's plenty of clean upscale neighborhoods without hoas, some people just need an authority figure to look over them for some reason..
@@260657df yeah upscale because we all have tens of thousands laying around and qualify for jumbo loans. How about you just read their hoa agreement before making an offer. Or ask the neighbors how the HOA treats them. Lookup property records to find the home owner whose been there the longest. Ask that person about the HOA.
Paying for an hoa is just paying someone to tell you what you can and can't do on your own property. I've bought two houses, both times I told the realtor I wouldn't consider an hoa. Both times, I've been happy with the house.
I have a nice home on 5 acres with no HOA. But of course, I now have a hoarder neighbor after my good neighbor got foreclosed on because of an ARM home equity loan (never get an ARM loan!!!). The banks get rid of good neighbors who take care of their property and sell it to scum bags. I'd still prefer this over an HOA because those usually get controlled by narcissistic hitler wanna bes who are on a power trip and want to dictate everything you do down to the type of curtains you choose. If I could afford it, I'd buy a home on enough acreage that I never had to see a neighbor.
@reesedaniel5835 the hoarding thing is an issue of its own magnitude. It's a sad mental health issue that hurts everyone. I rented a room in a hoarders house one time. They actually had an hoa, but they had hired people to come in and clear it out and clean before I went to see it but it got super bad crazy fast. I left before it became a big enough issue for the hoa to notice. Anyway, I'm sorry you have to deal with that. It's no way for anyone to live.
I do the same as you. When buying a house I tell the realtor the same thing as you. nO HOA
@@reesedaniel5835 ARM was good many years ago… plenty of people didn’t refinance and get these low rates must be hating themselves now
@@double_joseph327 ARM means Adjustibe Rate Mortgage. The bank can adjust the interest rate to virtually any number they choose and I can assure you, it will never go down, only up. This gives the bank the power to adjust it so high the borrower cannot repay the loan and they can foreclose at will. ARM loans are only for the financially stupid, or those who can pay it off fast (which defeats the purpose).
"Did the rule ever cross your mind when you ordered the truck" is a valid question. HOA or not he agreed to the rules. He also has a two car garage.
Don’t they realize that SUV’s are in the truck category?
When HOA board members unnecessarily and tyrannically bully other residents like this, I’m also amazed that their homes don’t accidentally burn down.
Arson?
Its because good people just suffer under abusive behaviors and revolt agaisnt the rules rather than burning the next door neighbors home down which is surely going to decrease the average cost of the home in the neighborhood and thus lower your own as well.
You said it much nicer then i would of...and i would not use the word ACCIDENT!
@@BigKandRtv Such a angry sounding word...some think of it as getting rid of rubbish ...
@@martenkrueger8647 Nah. You’d be on vacation somewhere off grid when… what’s that you say??? Three HOA board member’s houses mysteriously caught fire and burned half way to the ground??? I’m sorry detective but I was on a fishing trip and have no idea what happened.
But it’s a damn shame what happened to their homes and all. I wonder if they’re gonna stick around the neighborhood. I sure hope so, they’re such hospitable neighbors and all…
Karen said "Beautiful truck, can i see it?" "Takes photos" "emails landlords and request for its removal" LOL.
The rules were already on the books way before Karen (spelled Carin) showed up.
Wouldn't the Karen be the one who bought the truck, broke the rules, and started to complain?
This comment 🤣
@@Thunderbyrd. it has always been "Karens" behind these types of things.
@@TimBowSpice No, the Karen would be the one thinking electric pickups should be considered a commercial vehicle
If he lived there 27 years, he knows the rules. He is an idiot for buying a house in a HOA.
SUVs are classified as trucks as opposed to cars. You can think of them as pickup trucks with a covered cargo area that's built out for passengers.
My mother worked for one of the largest HOA management companies in the United States for 20 years. The main goal is to get fines not protect peoples properties. They have fleets of vehicles that simply go around looking for fines, no matter how minor the supposed offense. The stories she has are astonishing. They always say the same thing, you should have read the bylaws, which are written by lawyers, and are often long, complicated, and vague enough to cause confusion. They do tend to back down if you get a lawyer but most people don't want to deal with lawyers and will pay the fine, which is what they are counting on.
Laws shouldn't be long and should be clear. There shouldna long list of laws for making laws readable for the common people if it's meant for them to follow
Karma will get your mom for harrassing these innocent hardworking Americans.
@@furyofbongos Yes. It's not supposed to go to the managers but to help finance the HOA itself. However, the managers make 100k+ salaries, company cars, bonuses, etc.. the money gets back to them in legal but still unethical way. My mother was just a secretary, so never saw any of that money but eventually she got tired of how corrupt and hypocritical these people were, so she quit. She now works at job that pays less and is a farther drive but she's happier than she's ever been getting away from those people. Moral to the story, being around good people will make you happier than making more money working for awful people.
No they don't. I worked for them too. Maybe some petty ones do.
@@krane15 Depends on the company/corporation and large associations are companies/corporations. The one my mother worked for had 500+ associations in 14 states. Everything I said is true. And as a contractor, whenever an association has anything go do with a project, the price goes up, a lot. Not always, but usually associations are awful to work for. You will have12 bosses, each one with conflicting views of how a project should be run and they are petty as hell and hate each other. Again not always but usually. The larger the association the more obnoxious they will be, the richer the association the more Karen's you'll find. This is pretty much a standard rule. I would rather deal with a federal government project than an HOA project and that's saying something.
What the HOA defines as a truck was probably intended as like a work truck with a box or panels on the back. Not a personal pickup truck. Antiquated HOA rules and too many Karen’s. I’m rooting for the homeowner!
Even then I don’t understand the problem? Someone drives through the neighborhood and thinks, “oh no, they have a job!”?
@@randomizednamme Yeah, I was thinking, "What's wrong with a work truck". One of my neighbors parks his Freightliner in his front yard when he isn't on the road. No one is complaining.
Exactly commercial truck
They might start legislating against personal pickup trucks to "protect the environment". Already hearing such proposals but from environmetalists...
Cut the racist felon karen sht out criminal
Even when you win a lawsuit against your HOA you pay for it because the HOA just assesses the cost of the lawsuit to all the homeowners in the association to recoup the fine + attorney fees.
yeah but at least you get the other people to pay so the cost to you for winning are basically non existent
If HOA’s could get away with it, they would dictate when you go to the bathroom and when you went to bed at night. Never buy a home in a neighborhood that tells you what to do on your own property.
Unfortunately in some places it is nearly impossible to avoid buying a house in an HOA and you end up paying 100K to several million more for a non HOA property. Fortunately there are good HOAs full of people who dislike HOAs so the HOA is mostly focused on community property and has minimal private property bylaws. But you have to read the bylaws for any place you are even considering or you end up in one of the crazy restrictive HOA that don't allow ANY vehicle to be parked on your own driveway over night and you can't have bikes or toys or any equipment in your front yard overnight. I was like WTF this is for real??? And I noticed those HOAs usually have fees 4x higher than what I pay.
Looks like the HOA's are working...
Well in some country clubs they have cameras and you get a ticket for not following the speed limit
You think it's only happening on HOA. Just watch as this current government will tell you when to sleep and what to eat.
The alternative bro is to move somewhere with an HOA and ignore all their rules on purpose and then when they take you to court you can easily defend yourself. All you have to say is "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness"
if i was him i would %100 take this to court
*100%
he already did and hoa lost the case
he did, didn't you watched the video?
I'm SHOOKEN! In the empire of de Satan no less. 😁
Yes he already did but, I agree because he should try again at a higher level court.
In many states a non commercial pickup can be registered as a passenger car. If the state says it's a car, it's a car, not a truck.
As an HVAC technician, I am proud to park my work truck in front of my house every night.
This is exactly why I would NEVER live in an HOA! Imagine buying a nice house for $500k or better and still being told what you can and can’t do. Kick rocks!
Almost happened to me. I found a nice home in North Dallas near the Galleria for $1.2 million and was going to buy it. My realtor did their research and found out that while the HOA is relatively cheap ($78 for an entire year), I wasn’t allowed to park my truck in my driveway because that would devalue everyone else’s property. My Ford Raptor cost more than many of the luxury cars in that neighborhood, but “a vehicle meant for work/construction” is supposedly a negative sight. I ended up getting a nicer house around the same price without any HOA in Irving instead.
@@JacksonWalter735 So what you're saying is... you actually read the HOA agreement? And then you decided, before buying the house, whether or not the terms were acceptable to you? And as a result of this, you didn't buy a house in a place that had different preferred living standards than you? Well, hat's off to you for doing what you're supposed to do before buying a home.
@@brandon23471 thanks. Would have been a costly mistake
@@brandon23471 lol like they can't enforce rule after you sign and buy the house 😂😂😂 all you need is a majority of no lifers living in the neighbourhood.
Damn, he's lucky. He got a notice.
My best friend parked his F150 in front of my house and the HOA had it towed overnight.
There was nothing in the bylaws about anything other than commercial vehicles with external markings or tool storage.
Fortunately, we moved to owner-requested towing only and dissolved major parts of the HOA.
I earned some enemies with the local predatory towing company. Oh well.
how did you dissolve the HOA? i own an apt and the HOA is trash, the management company keeps changing without any notice or any contact info, they refuse to do any repairs despite collecting >$500/mo from each resident, and i KNOW i'm not the only frustrated homeowner in my building
So far for the land of the free.
The same rules prevent residents from operating a massage parlor or hotdog stand at their home. You know this going in.. You sign a contract and give your word on your honor you will not park a truck in your driveway. I am reminded of the rock group that had in their contract that they would have a bowl of M&Ms in their dressing room with something like all the red ones removed. It seems silly but it was something everyone agreed upon and it was adhered to.
The best solution for an illegal tow is to report it stolen, then show up at the tow company. Demand it back, refuse to pay. When they refuse to give it back, break in and take it. In most areas, you're allowed to use reasonable force to reclaim your stolen property. I'd consider bolt-cutters or a Dremel on a lock 'reasonable'. Record the whole thing. Call the non-emergency line when you've left. Advise them that you reclaimed your stolen property from the thieves, but had to do a minor amount of damage to a couple locks to get it back.
@@guidedmeditation2396except the comment points out that there was no rule against trucks but they towed the vehicle anyways. I’d also say a hotdog stand and your own personal vehicle are in two different categories
Buying in an HOA is insanity
I wouldn’t even want to live in a typical neighborhood as it is, so dealing with an HOA would definitely drive me insane.
This is why I’d never live in a neighborhood with an HOA.
Me too
I would not live in a gated community or HOA place in general BUT if a community chose to have & enforce certain rules, policy I could see that. 🏘 I've lived in apts where squatters, drugs, "trap" houses were common. The property mgmt refused to hire armed security or get a off duty deputy.
HOA in my dad's neighborhood; old lady was out in his driveway on his property with a ruler measuring the height of the rocks cemented into the border of his driveway. "These are more than 1.75in tall and will damage passing vehicles!"
"Lady... it's my driveway. If people are "passing" these rocks they're driving in my yard! Get over yourself!"
They tried to fine him for a road hazard and instead she wound up with a trespassing and stalking. He now has a restraining order against her and hasn't heard a single word from the HOA in over a year.
I love a story with a happy ending like this
These people desperately need hobbies.
I had a neighbor stop by once asking for a signature for a HOA formation once. Told her to get the F off my property
Haha! All this because god forbid a person sees a truck and thinks to themselves you know what the property value is gonna go down because we have working class people here.
Never EVER buy a house with an HOA unless your perfectly happy with any rules they could ever make up. Can't believe people ever got sucked into these traps to begin with.
Absolutely; I had nothing but nightmares with my previous home's HOA. There had been an ADT Security sign on the front lawn next to the door when I bought the house, and I never bothered to remove it; however, 16 years later, the HOA sent me a notice asking me to remove the sign or be fined.
The people never read the covenants and restrictions or the bylaws, as a former Property manager I would definitely not buy a home in a hoa!
People get sucked into them because their choices are either deal with an HOA, live in a neighborhood where gunshots at night are a regular occurence, or commute a long distance from a peewater little town where you can find a newer home without the HOA baloney.
HOA rules need to be restricted by law or banned outright.
In this area you need to have a gated community with security. That often means hoa.
This is exactly why I refused to buy a house with an association. I would rather live in a maytag box 📦 than deal with someone telling me what I can and can't do with a house I bought with my hard earned money.
The city or county could do exactly the same stuff without being in an HOA.
@@Balthorium the city and county are 10x as easy to deal with.
@@Balthorium find an unincorporated territory then you are only under state/federal laws and regulations.
@@c12onnor unincorporated is county. Depends on where you live and who the Board of Supervisors are as well as who works at code enforcement. They could be reasonable or not. I have battled with the county about a fence trespassers wanted removed by making me get a permit I wasn’t required to get. They literally complained to the government to remove a physical barrier so they could trespass easily.
@@Balthorium no the county points at hand "taxes" property looks good enough. Bye the county waves
I bought a house with no restrictions according to the realtor. Then the HOA came and said I couldn’t park my RV there. I told them that I was never told about any hoa and that they need to take it up with the realtor. That was 7 years ago and I’ve never heard another word about it.
Ya. He’s special. The thing he signed doesn’t apply to him.
Let me guess, you are the CEO of an HOA.
I use to live in Weston and i bought a 2003 Dodge Ram single cab not knowing about the HOA rule. I brought it home the first day around 7 p.m. and the very next day i had a letter from the HOA saying i couldnt have it parked in the driveway. I was fortunate that it was a single cab because it just fit into the garage. I was born in Miami and lived there for 36 years until 2006 when i moved to NC it was the best move i ever made what a different world it is here and of course i bought a house with no HOA. Trucks now are nicer than a lot of cars but not being able to park it in your driveway is a complete joke.
Lol in NC you're looked at weird if you DONT have a truck
Er, you bought the house without reading the CC&Rs? And then whine about it when you broke the rules you agreed to? Oh my, what a tool.
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb The irony of you making your comment, then calling someone else a tool. You have zero self awareness lmao
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb I bought the house pre construction and bought the truck 6 years later. I had never had a HOA and growing up in my parents house there were no such things. So I had never heard of trucks not being able to parked in front of a house. It's actually something that needs to be changed. Most trucks now are nicer than cars it makes no sense for that kind of rule. So no I didn't read it if that makes you feel better about yourself being a tool yourself.
Why did you first live in an HOA anyway?
Both of the neighborhoods I have lived in have had HOA’s and even though they were strict about trailers & boats, never did they say anything about trucks. That’s utter ridiculous. Not all pickups are work vehicles like people envision them to be and it does not decrease the value & reputation of the vehicle it just shows that people have variety in the cars they purchase & actually shows that they work unlike the members of the HOA who are most likely stay-at-homes who only leave their house for their numerous plastic surgeries to look like an alien a couple times a week.
Even if it was a work vehicle , it shouldn't matter
@@ant2011 I agree
I agree to a point but would also agree with the neighborhood, HOA resident board rep. If you are moving or buying a condo, house, apt, property 🏘 read & know the policy, SOPs before you live there. The "ohhh I was unaware of that!" bit does not cut it.
@@ant2011 Ik, that’s what I said. Owning a work truck and having it in your driveway shows interested buyers in that area that successful people live there
It’s a very misleading article. So, it has nothing to do with the fact that it’s electric? Why was it so slanted that way?
ngl that truck complements the home and makes it look 100 times better
Imagine living in a house where you can't park in your own driveway overnight.
Imagine owning your house, yet "property management" gets to tell you that you can't park a vehicle in your driveway.
The home owner agreed to those rules when they bought the house
@@chairmanofthebored8684 I don't care for electric vehicles. And I have hated HOAs for a long time, long before it was trending.
They are parasitic organizations that dig in like ticks and and spread like diseases.
It would be no different than someone pouring nuclear waste all over a neighborhood and saying "Oh, well everyone knows there's already nuclear waste everywhere so they shouldn't complain about it."
@@chairmanofthebored8684
I'm old enough to remember how much sport utility vehicles were railed against when Ford introduced the Explorer and Toyota debuted the Land Cruiser, back in the 80s.
How is it that you completely ignore the concept of personal use vehicles that aren't for commercial use, such as this truck, that constitute the vast majority of vehicles sold in America? ... Not to mention that the pickup truck (and the similarly statured SUV) is all but the official vehicle of America.
The world and society evolves and changes. So should the rules that govern it. Plain and simple.
I'd be willing to put money down that the HOA will have to back off. Instead of clutching the outdated past, try evolving as the world changes. Just saying. 🧐
@J F
Unless you're the rich retired one sittin5 on the board getting financially compensated. 😠
You don't own anything because you still have to pay tax for it.
Why would you live in a place where other people DICTATE how you use your space?
Your dictating too by living in a HOA. I bet you don't see cars on blocks or crackhouses in the neighborhood. No homeless or beggars. Move into one with yard services would be awesome.
@@smokingjoe9864 *you’re
And why are you assuming he also lives in a HOA?
What are you talking about? You live under hundreds and hundreds of rules every day every day, not just in an HOA.
@@jameylane1591 that is literally not the point at all. Don’t act like you don’t realize how blatantly stupid this rule is.
@@smokingjoe9864 you act like every neighborhood without a HOA is packed with beggars and homeless people 🤣🤣
He doesn't want to park it in his garage since he doesn't want it to burn down his house when the Rivan self conbusts.
Which isn't really a thing.....except it's something people who don't like EVs say. And guess what.....gas powered cars are more likely to catch fire than EVs!
It used to be, in a place I once lived, you could have a truck license plate on PUs or whatever plate ordinary cars had. Truck plates weren't allowed in certain places. Not many PUs had truck plates. If the State said it was a car then it was a car. The SUVs, Hummers, Broncos, Vans - how do they fare?
Take em to court and they can enjoy paying both parties legal fees
Except when he loses due to the agreement he signed when he bought the place. Then he will be the one paying all the legal fees. The truck clause is standard in HOA documents. Good luck finding one that doesn't have it.
@@jameylane1591 well at least one guy took his hoa to court for the same reason and won. So it is a possibility
@@jameylane1591 Found the HOA rat who has nothing else to live for
@@lorrieguinn8221 Not smart. That was a very very rare case ruling. As long as the documents clearly state no trucks of any kind, which they do, he's going to end up getting nailed with all the legal fees for this little contest. If he wins they'll do a special assessment and he'll end up paying it anyway as well as all his neighbors - who will really love him for it.
@@jameylane1591 I have a feeling you may be the president of your hoa. 😂😂
I've only lived in one neighborhood that had an HOA. That had to have been the most chilled out board I've ever witnessed. Someone burned their entire yard down and the board pretty much said "well, at least the grass will grow back greener"😂🤧 The only thing they cared about was making sure someone didn't move in and allow their property to fall apart. They even allowed cars parked on the street if the need arises. Neighborhood looked great and thankfully no Karens.
Where is this place? It can't be real.
Yeah, there are some decent ones out there. My in-laws live in one in metro Detroit. They have this little shed thing on the side of their house for storing yard tools rakes, brooms, shovels etc, you can't even fit a lawn mower in it unless you fold the handle and put it in sideways. It's made out of plastic, it's rubbermaid I think. It's made to go up against the side of your house. Anyway, he says that they've been bothering him about it for years and years, saying he needs to get rid of it because they're not allowed to have sheds in this neighborhood. He said he crumples up the letters they send about it and throws them out. They haven't tried to enforce it on him ever. Parking is allowed on the street on an as needed basis. No rules about having your garage door open or anything like that. I think it's just the bad HOAs that you hear about. To me it seems like they're either bad and overbearing or they're good and it's like they're not even there but then that leaves you wondering why you even need a HOA in the first place and what do the dues go towards.
Until Karen moves in next week...
thats how my HOA is, really lax, almost no rules, its just for building maintenance and thats it
@@carlbrown1000 I have a new home in Idaho and that sounds very similar to our HOA. The only time we heard from them was when a section of our front yard ha a big brown spot the sent us a letter. We called them and told them what we were doing about it and that it would have to wait until the spring for the repair since snow season was about to start and they had no problem. Now, that is my kind of HOA.
Many insurance companies don’t allow you to park inside your house just in case it starts a fire and burns your house down.
So the rules are the rules regardless of gas or electric. So park it in the garage then.
This is one reason I love living out in the country. Around my house, I am the HOA.
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And the building inspector, concrete finisher, deck builder, etc...
Being Brazilian it's very bizarre to me that some random association can dictate what you can do in a property you own, even when the property is not in a closed condominium
The idea behind the association is that you won't have any neighbors that let their house go or do something crazy that detracts from the look and image that would bring down the value of everyone's home.
Like someone who won't cut their grass regularly, or paints their house a goofy color, or puts up stuff that is oddball.
The problem is some of the HOA's ended up making stupid rules like not parking a truck in driveway and you get people running them are strict a-holes.
If you want to do anything you want to your property, buy 10 acres of land with no one around it and build your house on it. Chances are if you live in "urban, upscale and convenient" areas, there will be some sort of HOA.
@@itsatrap7215it’s only urbanites that defend HOA’s, they are intrinsincally ridiculous, if you hate what your neighbors might do its best to live far away from them.
@@javiervelez892not everyone wants to live in the middle of nowhere, and some people also don’t want RV’s sitting parked next to their house 24/7. They’re not intrinsically ridiculous, they just can be
@@nolan122No, HOA’s are ridiculous. It’s ridiculous that you have to pay to have someone tell you what you can and cannot do on your property and then they can take away your property if you don’t abide by them. That’s horseshit.
I don’t want electric personally! Thankful for A Judge with common Sense! Salute 🫡
No room in the garage, that's where I keep the expensive cars.
I said I’d never live in an HOA community but here I am living in one in CA. There is no rules about where to park your vehicles. We keep them in the driveway and use the garage for storage/gym. The HOA is $125 a month and covers landscaping around the community, 5 pools and several parks. It’s a nice community and the HOA keeps people from keeping trash and old car parts on their front lawns.
I don't think that HOA is necessarily a bad thing as long as the board applies common sense and is not used by individuals as a means to oppress the community.
The biggest problem with HOA's is that they elect grumpy senior citizens that have nothing better to do but to give people a hard time over a lot of nonsense. Obviously, some communities are worse than others, but I've dealt with some nonsense in the past.
"HOA's" are not "communities." We need to not let the "HOA" crime syndicate control the language. These are totally artificial fake "communities," not real neighborhoods. We need to ban "HOAs" altogether on detached homes across the U.S.A. and go back to real neighborhoods and towns.
Of course agree with what you're saying. You're absolutely right.
Reminds me of the day my old HOA sent me a notice. We had two cars we parked in the garage. One became not as reliable so we added a new one (3 total). I parked the older one on the street and put a car cover on it to protect it (it had always been garaged).
Got notice from the HOA about the car parked on the street with a cover. I called them up, with the rule book in hand, and asked what rule I broke (I could not find any). They told me I was right. I then asked if they had jurisdiction on the street. Again no, as it was a city owned street.
So I asked why they sent a notice since I broke no rule, and additionally was not parked where the HOA had jurisdiction.
Answer - Somebody complained (some Karen with a clipboard I guess).
Anyway I told them they better throw that away and I better not hear any harassment again, since (1) I broke no rule and (2) even if I did they had no jurisdiction.
Why are you putting the non reliable car on the side of the street? Lol that belongs in the garage the other can stay on the street or your driveway.
@@juniorkool21 Probably to help protect the other good vehicles from potential damage by thieves.
Hell ya
A lot of cities have ordinances that prevent this by requiring that the car can’t be in the same spot for more than 3 days.
I would have complained
It’s hard to feel bad for these rich people
Fire hazard no way would i park that in my garage even if i had the room
I hung my wetsuit on the patio for a few hours to dry which was a no no, so I got a letter from HOA stating that it’s against the rules to have anything in the patio that isn’t approved other than patio plants and furnitures. So I grabbed all 4 of my suits, and borrow 3 more from friends and hung them up like dead bodies inside my condo right up against the sliding door which opens to the patio, boy did those old board members have an aneurysm for 6 months. They came by and took pictures almost daily, sending letters weekly asking in a very passive aggressive way for me to take it down as it wasn’t aesthetically pleasing. Petty but worth it. (I moved after that).
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😂😂😂 That’s the VN way of drying clothes
@@Vnexpress1203 and for drying seafood.
@@3sgtepwnzr yup! Dried squid with sriracha is my favorite drinking snack 😂
@@Vnexpress1203 it’s all about hard mango and shrimp paste ☺️