On the flipside of the coin is that without an HOA people can park cars on the lawn. I imagine that there must be a demand for them otherwise why build with an HOA? How does that make the builder more money?
The board is made up of residents, not some group of faceless bureaucrats. It's you r responsibility to know who you voted into power and to be aware of the rules you bought into. Attend the meetings and be heard. Too many residents are apathetic and let things go until the end up on the receiving end of new policies they didn't care stay on top of.
@@neilkurzman4907 It makes the builder more money through the HOA dues paid each month, the ridiculous rules and regulations resulting in fines, fines, fines, and the restrictions on how or what improvements you can make on your home in the future, many of the changes of which can only be done through "approves" vendors who are usually in some way connected to the builder as well. Way to many of HOAs are usually founded through the builder in the first place.
@@clarky23 I guess if that is how it’s set up then that would be a problem. I live in a condominium with an HOA. There is a common property so it requires one. It has no connection to the builder, or a property manager.
@@2A5X4A not all landlords, our first landlord would help us if we needed something or accidentally broke something, he was really nice. My mom decided to move because one of our neighbour wouldn’t stop harassing us (lived in a nice duplex btw). Our landlord said that if we stayed just 3 more days we could have the entire house, but our neighbour called the cops on us for the 2 time that week for some stupid reason I can’t even remember. At that point my mom was ready to beat the crap out of her (she’s Jamaican), so we just moved. We were pretty upset about the move because the next house was crap and we had a crappier land lord. Luckily our present landlord is really nice.
Yup. I used to want to live in a condo for my first home, thinking it would be more affordable. Nope, HOA fees bring it right back up to the same price as a house, but with more rules and authority. As if local & federal government weren't enough to deal with.
@@anastasiacline6159 The fact that practicing law and being a lawyer are non-existent in communist countries should tell you everything you need to know about how fair their due process is. - A communist country survivor
I got booted in downtown Austin last year in a parking lot that I had permission from the owner to be in. The company that booted me refused to take it off unless I paid. I'm a contractor I had a cordless angle grinder in my truck I cut it off while the tow guy went to get the police who were down the block. The cop laughed when they walked up. He didn't actually see me cut it but there was in pieces on the ground. He let me go the tow guy was yelling that they were going to sue me for the cost of the boot and for the fine. I've never heard anything from them that happened in December 2019.
if it was brought to court the residing judge would of laughed that tow company into bankruptcy especially when you had Prior permission by the parking lot owner ...ive seen that happen alot OR when they boot n tow a vehicle when a person is in a store thats right at the parking lot especially those that have LIMITED time parking .. some companies go as far as having spotters in plain vehicles near by to call the tow driver the second the vehicle is out of sight to hook & go without even notifying the vehicle owner especially when the allowed time hasnt even ended. a company in chicago was doing that and were on Tv news for their missuse of the law many times to the fact they went as far as changing the name of the company at least 8 times ....and having spotters & towing when your not hired by the city or lot owner and removing vehicles before the parking time is up is totally illegal and more force of these laws need to be put on tow companies who do this practice
@@Erik-pr2rf It's a very risky play to knowingly tow a vehicle unlawfully. Grand theft auto is the criminal charge, and violence is always a possibility. People don't tend to treat people caught stealing their cars very nicely.
In London, there's a guy who dresses in a mask and cape who calls himself Angle Grinder Man who goes around with an angle grinder, anonymously removing the boots from people's cars.
Tons! I wouldn't live in a neighborhood without one, and the stronger the better. Human nature in America is basic white trash, with few exceptions. Without a strong HOA you would have idiots working on their cars in the street right in front of their house, using old toilets as flower pots, turning their garages into man caves in other words it would be DOG PATCH USA!
My community used to have an HOA. The woman who started it was decent, she didn't go full blown Karen and threaten you or anything, she'd literally just ask you politely and her asks usually weren't unreasonable. A guy had his sprinkler on and it covered the sidewalk, she asked him to move it back a bit and he obliged. A dude had a confederate flag and his neighbors complained, she didn't do anything except tell them he has the right to be offensive. All in all she was pretty chill. Then she died. And her daughter took over. And her daughter was exactly like how you'd think. She started giving fines to people who had a car in their drive way or had flowers she didn't like in their garden. She wound up being sued and the HOA was disbanded but it's crazy to me how chill and relaxed her mother was and how absolutely insane this woman turned out to be. Would literally go into your backyard and look around and fine you for violations. She should have gone to jail but she was sued so hard she sold the house so I guess it's a win/win. For what it's worth, I know HOA's are terrible but my house and neighborhood were pristine for years and then the HOA disbanded and honestly the quality has noticeably gone down, mostly in the roads and people are much more lenient with clutter but I can live with that compared to having a crazy HOA lady.
Good for you honestly letting HOA exist in the first place is already a mistake let's ve real here we all hate does crazy adult pretending to be children on how they act running around doing stupid things
They did booting in my HOA several years ago. My neighbor called the police and they contacted the property manager and told them if the boot was not removed immediately, someone would be arrested. Booting is considered tampering with a vehicle and is against the law, at least in my city in Orange County, CA.
Former work colleague of mine bought HOA home in Sacramento CA.. They were moving some wood from the back of their vehicle to the patio area which took them several trips. They left the garage door up during this process. Several days later, they received a warning letter noting that they violated one of the HOA rules about exposing the garage interior to the public, ie. the rest of the HOA community. I just think that HOA staff members in all places are on some major power trip.
By that "rule" anyone who ever opens their Garage for any reason is in violation even if it means they're parking their car in the garage. HOA's are brainless money grabbers
Same here. I'm selling the house by the end of the year. I was told that I couldn't store my trash cans behind my backyard gate on the side of the house because the gate doesn't have a blocking screen on it. I have also had the garage door open and warmed to close it when I get in. Another one was that I had my trees trimmed, and I was told that one tree wasn't growing leaves fast enough and that I needed to replace it with another tree or get a fine once a week at $100. It cost me $750 to replace it. I'm out! Never again!
Never buy a home WITH a HOA..bet a family member of the HOA owns the towing company issuing tickets n placing d boots.. They line their pockets this way ..
@Teller of unfortunate Truths seems like d biggest n worst social demeanor person gets d job of enforcing hoa rules...the person they elect has no social etiquette (d azz hole of area everyone hates) ..i know exactly d grief you caught...if id a known before we built , id of never purchased the property..love d house , location & neibors but d hoa ruined my first home buying experience...take our advice people , do not buy a home where you are held hostage by a HOA. You will feel like you are paying fee's to be incriminated..by your own dang MONEY!
This reminds me of a story my little brother told me about the HOA in my old neighborhood. Guy moves in to his house and brings his expensive Resto-mod with him. It's an old 1930's delivery truck, but it has a new frame, suspension, and a Brand New LS motor and 6 speed trans in it. He spent like $90,000 on that thing. HOA had it towed from his driveway because they thought it looked like and "abandoned" vehicle. He takes them to court, shows all the paperwork for the truck, even brings in proof it passed state inspection and runs. HOA lady can't wrap her head around someone spending that kind of money on "rusty trash". Judge sides with the truck owner and cleans out the HOA bank account to give to the plaintiff as compensation, he is now also entitled to 3/4 of the HOA yearly dues until the day he dies. Guess the judge hates HOA's too... Edit: Holy Crap this blew up! It only took three years and a handful of Trolls...
Buy controlling interest in the HOA, elect yourself to all positions, disband the HOA, and enjoy the profits as property value increases. And do it with their own money.
No HOA is going to tell me who can park on my driveway I paid for. They would be off I 1 min with a side grinder in court I question would be who gave you permission to be on my land
When you are shopping around for a new home, and an HOA home catches your eye...ALWAYS see if you can legally opt out of the HOA. In some cases you can. Always check the fine print and have property lawyers look over any contracts for you. It costs you money, but in the long run will save you from a potential nightmare.
My hoa booted my work truck. They made a rule about work trucks a year after we purchased the house. I was told that I grandfathered in. So I used said work truck to cut said boot off. It was great.
I specifically told my realtor "no HOA" as well, and they were really good about sticking to it. I ended up in a house with no HOA, only to find out that a group of neighbors was in the process of trying to "incorporate" the neighborhood. Legally, that would be turning generic county land into an incorporated township and it would result in a mayor, town council, local laws, and taxes to support all of that. Effectively about the same thing as establishing an HOA, except that there would be no way to opt out individual properties. Luckily that all got voted down and hasn't come back up again, but it was amazing how passionately some people wanted it. The people who were for it were really into the idea of putting speed bumps on the streets, camera speed traps, more stop signs, and prohibiting parking on the street.
When I was buying my house, I told the realtor, in no uncertain terms, NO HOAs!!! I wasn't going to drop $250,000 for a house, and then pay monthly dues for the privilege of having someone fine me because my bushes were the "wrong" shape or my mailbox the "wrong" color.
I had this happen to my old work truck, took pictures to prove it was in my own driveway, then cut it off with a grinder and threw away the summons which was STAPLED to my front door. Turned out my neighbor put it on claiming to be the HOA happened to be heading out the door as he was STAPLING another fake fine to my door for damaging the "property of the HOA and ignoring previous fine" there was no HOA and it was half of a duplex. Cops get called he gets removed from my property with a warning comes back an hour later and STAPLES yet another notice on my door cops come yet again and my neighbor gets arrested for trespassing destruction of private property assaulting an officer and resisting arrest. My landlord sued him for the cost of a new door.
*24/7/52 Logical progression would be hours in a day, days within a week, weeks within a year. Adding "365" is redundant. Either say "24/7" which encompasses the entire year, or "24/7/52" which is more specific but encapsulates the same idea but there's 52 weeks in a year. Hell, even 24/365 makes more sense. Saying "24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year" lists days twice and is just dumb. "24/7" never had to make such a distinction for years because it was simply implied.
My brother had to repaint his house & the HOA provided him with the approved paint color from Home Depot. He repainted his home & the HOA said it was the wrong shade of color. They started giving him a daily fine until he repainted the house to the proper color. My brother insisted he used the right shade of color & he battled them for months while his fines accumulated. It wasn't until another homeowner had the same problem that they realized Home Depot had discontinued that shade of color years ago & the HOA didn't know it!
My friends property values were ruined by people who built a house next door, right next to the street and 3 stories tall, because most of the lot was protected swampland. THen they painted the house "hunter orange" A good HOA protects your property values by keeping the neighborhood clean and uniform.
@@ralan350 I'm not Pro or 'Anti HOA, genius, I just pointed out that they have some advantages. People here are free to choose. You don't like it, pack up and move back to whatever Commie craphole your people came from. Mine have all been here since the 1640's or earlier. We believe in Freedom to live however you choose.
Imagine not being able to paint your house a certain color. And it sounds like your brother painted his house a reasonable color too, not neon pink or something.
Most states its not trespassing unless there is a no trespass sign, you are crossing a fence, or the owner tells you to leave. Such as south carolina and Texas has this as the statute, so that wouldnt constitute trespass but it may fall under damage to private property.
As a board member of my HOA, we made the decision to briefly allow emergency vehicles after much debate. However, you can get this privlidge revoked if they have come twice already in a rolling 12 month period. So many people abuse this (like the old people and that stupid cancer woman) that there needed to be a hard limit.
Back in 2015 our neighborhood HOA booted my dads truck 6 times because it was "too big and made the neighborhood look cluttered" when in reality it was a new resident karen down the street who complained for 3 months because my dad left for work early and her bedroom window was always open despite my dad having the truck for 5 years. Long story short my dad who owns every power tool known to man, pulled out his angle grinder and cut the boot off every single time. The boots cost about 400 each and tried to sue my dad and failed miserably.
Now that is funny. Your dad‘s truck gets booted, so early in the morning when he goes to leave for work, he hast to make a lot more noise cutting the boots off. The neighbor should have left him alone!
My neighbor used to be a semi driver, and he actually owned the tractor part. One day some idiot Code Enforcement officer tried to tell him it was illegal to park in the neighborhoo. Bob told him that it was his own personal ride, and he pointed to about 8 or 10 trucks and vans that were all commercial vehicles. He said if it's illegal for him to park in the neighborhood, it's also illegal for them, and he'd look at parking elsewhere once those others moved. We don't have a HOA, so it was probably some ignorant neighbor calling Code Enforcement.
MainID if you boot MY car on MY property your company just gave me a free tire boot. If they want to come and get it they can pay me 500 bucks. It’s that easy. My property isn’t public. My property sitting on my property still isn’t public.
If you buy in an HOA, you must understand that you never really 'own' your home...you're just renting even though you're paying a mortgage. HOA's need to to be severely restricted in what they can and can't do. They never seem to back down unless you hire a lawyer to point out the illegality of their actions. In an HOA, they're right until proven wrong...and often that means the 'homeowner' having to sue the HOA which means incurring unnecessary legal fees to do so.
Like like a condo , mortgage, utilities, property taxes and condo fees each month, my sister lives in a new really minty condo, big place, about 2000 sq,ft and had indoor parking with an indoor car wash, coin op, cost you 2 bucks to wash your car, get condo fees are more than her property taxes each month, wow, $450/ month
That's BS. Property is property. It just comes with an obligation to help contribute to maintainance of services you use, such as private roads. 99% of problems people have with HOAs is because they're doing wrong but they think they're entitled, or they didn't bother to read the rules at all. And no, you misrepresenting the rest too. The HOA can follow their own viewpoint, but if they need to collect a fine off of you, that's when they must prove their case in court. And unless you no-show and get a default judgement, that's when incorrect fines end up quashed.
@@SVEVelsen When someone can dictate what friggin window treatments I'm using INSIDE my home... then I'm renting vs owning. And no, 99% of problems aren't because they're doing something wrong, just not doing it the way Karen's like you want it done. 1- When you're getting fined because your grass is 1" too high... that's a problem with the HOA. 2- When am HOA can foreclose on your house while you're deployed because they decided they didn't like the colour of your garage door and fined you $50/day. But the only notices were stuck on your door which you didn't see because you were 5,000 miles away for 3 months... that's a problem with HOA's. Listen, you want to live as a bunch of invasive and petty people feel you should live... go right ahead sheep.
I got sucked into an HOA because they didn't disclose it until I went to signing (legal at the time), so I was stuck. Luckily, it was a poorly drafted one and had no paint color restrictions. I was repainting the house and had thought I'd picked a tan with a little coral tone to it. Nope, I had 10 gallons of Flamingo Pink. Since the house was block, my plan was to just use the Flamingo as a base coat and paint over it. The HOA threw such a fit and threatened me that I kept it for 5 years (I didn't like the color). When they finally stopped, since there was nothing they could do, I repainted it a delightfully bland off white.
@@demondogmom7221 i be kinda pist to see a pink house, tbh. But if you had put up a giant F-U HoA sign in your yard at the time, I would have loved that color.
@srobeck77 - yeah I didn't like it either, but threatening me brings out the absolute worst in me. I realized I was supposed to be intimidated / scared and that just fired me up even more. They finally learned to make sure they were following the covenants and leave me alone.
Why, WHY anyone would live in a home THEY bought and PAY other people to tell them what they can or can’t do on THEIR property is so beyond me. I can’t imagine EVER being that ignorant.
i mean there is a line. Obviously most HOA are out oft heir minds, but if you have one guy that comes along and makes his house look like trash, well it does hurt the value of the neighbors homes. YOu see HOA in high real estate value places like new york toronto and vancouver. They are trying to increase the value of their properties.
I have no idea what draws people to HOA communities. You own your home and it's like paying rent to live there and be bossed around. And in turn, what exactly do they do for you that's so outstanding? I looked at a townhouse recently, thinking I'll sell my house and have less work in my twilight years, then I saw the townhouse had an HOA.......I ran away when I saw that and never looked back. I wouldn't live there for free. I didn't work my entire life to be bossed around in my twilight years by a bunch of flunkies who have been given a little power and decided to run with it. No thanks.
People don't have a choice anymore, theres so much competition for any home that hits the market that people can't afford to be picky or else they'll end up homeless
jay jo it depends on where you live. I have an HOA and they don’t do all of that. At the same time, I’m in a military town and they don’t want those problems. PTSD runs rampant around this area so people kind of walk on eggshells.
You generalize. Home buyers are not forced to buy a home that falls under HOA rules. HOA homes ensure that people won't trash their houses, let weeds grow unabated, park their cars on the lawn, and generally cause drops in home values because neighbors' actions are in bad taste or drive other home owners crazy. If you feel that HOAs "work righteously," don't buy a home under HOA rules, but don't accuse all HOAs for doing what their membership owners want, and approve of the HOA rules. It's the OWNERS who direct their OWN HOA rules, and it is the OWNERS who can add to or subtract the rules that the OWNERS have established. You don't know what you are talking about. Next time, get some FACTS!
LEE COX probably already has his legal pad and clip board with a 🖊 pen ready to go and hanging by his front door so he can write up & report his neighbors to the HOA.... For Sure 👍 💯
I never understood booting a car like that, it's so counter intuitive. "Hey! You're parking where you're not supposed to! Let me make sure you can't move from that spot and make the area look bad at the same time!" Good job HOA, You're very smart.
The courts have been agreeing with this. You can't tell a person you can't park in a spot and then force them to stay there. Enforcement is removing the vehicle from the property, which no tow truck drive who wants to keep their truck would do from a private property.
Most HOAs are very smart. If you have a half million dollar home would you want someone next door to park a food truck in their driveway? Worse yet, in the street? I did not think so.
As someone in the UK, I just cannot get my head around the HOA. Why is it ever ok to dictate what someone can do with or in their own privately owned property?
@D W yeah, the UK councils who give permission for building work, nothing at all to do with what a house, garden or overall property looks like or the condition it's in. No comparison whatsoever with anything the HOA does
The idea is that it protects property values by making sure that people don't paint their houses purple or let their yard go to hell, bringing down property values in the area. BUT! Sometimes they go too far, like in this case. The one we have in our community is pretty benign, but I've heard some horror stories from other people where their HOA was over-the-top strict, like not allowing homeowners to have *ANY* trucks parked in their driveways, period.
In Arizona, a guy got so fed up that he went to the HOA board meeting and shot them all up. I don’t condone such actions. Richard Glassel, Peoria, AZ. April 19, 2000.
I know a guy who just sold his house in an HOA because they wanted to charge everyone $10,000 to re-pave the streets. Hell when we bought our house years back our agent kept trying to sell us HOA homes even after we mad it clear that we would not buy a home with an HOA. They just kept telling us how great they were. It pissed me off so we went to someone else. I have never heard anything good about them from anyone who actually lives in one. Other then the rep trying to sell us a home in one.
@@SimonBauer7 you r wise beyond your years. I've lived in my home for 21 yrs., I was lied to at closing, sellers told me no hoa. It is HOA and it's a living nightmare. It's like daily living in a circle of hell. I've been in court with them for 8 years now. I sued them 3x & they sued me 2x. Yay 2 HOA case hearings on Sept. 1...
I would have cut the boots off and thrown them in the trash. That being said that they only fixed the problem because they got called on it. If people hadn’t made such an issue they would have continued to boot vehicles.
All it takes is one guy with a plasma cutter in his garage to spread the word that for a 6-pack, he will cut off the boot to make it very unprofitable for the company that boots the cars in the driveways. Besides, your driveway is private property, so how can they come on your property and do that to your vehicle.
@Smoking Joe If you want to live next to neighbors who aren't slobs and have good moral standards, then you don't need an HOA for that. There are already plenty of places where the property values alone prevent most undesirables from living there. You're more likely to live near good people if you live in Hilton Head Island, SC vs Compton, CA. The problem with HOA's is that they're susceptible to corruption. If the rules are reasonable then that's one thing. But when a corrupt board president or other members get in, that's when you get these ridiculous rules that do nothing to make the community better but end up extorting money from the residents. Then you get bad publicity which makes people not want to live in those communities, thus driving down property values and defeating one of the main reasons the HOA was implemented to begin with. As someone who values freedom & personal responsibility, I don't want to live under the thumb of narcissistic control freaks who can't mind their own business and try to extort money from me for petty reasons that ultimately don't hurt anyone. For me, that's an unacceptable level of intrusion that even living next to decent people can't justify.
@Smoking Joe HOAs usually abuse their power. That is never good. There are plenty of nice neighborhoods where the homes have high values and no HOA. You have to search for them but they are out there. If you buy into an HOA you are playing Russian roulette that someone will target you and make you miserable.
@@GenerationApollo Well said! We came to the exact same conclusion and have left HOAs forever after multiple experiences with covert narcissistic control freaks. 5 acres and an expensive home surrounded by expensive homes on acreage.... nobody screws with me and its beautiful
@Smoking Joe HOAs do more harm than good to home values. You can buy a nice home somewhere that is surrounded by nice homes and that have high home values and not have an HOA. You can buy a home in an HOA where they don't keep it up but still screw with people anyway. Your biggest investment/liability - you ought to control it.
Ever got your car towed from your own parking space just because you don’t didn’t renew your parking decal in time, but yet you are the owner of your residence? It makes no sense to me? The hoa is in it with the parking authority and the towing companies. Yet, they want to create harmony in the community. More like distrust is what they promote.
I had an old car in my garage that I was restoring. I frequently kept my garage open during the day as the garage was the primary way I entered and left the house. My county put a tow sticker on my car for not having it registered as I was restoring it IN my garage! So i just closed the garage. I waited for them to knock on my door and ask to open my garage so that they could tow my car. It never happened but I was waiting on it.
@@ebonimom6964 Private property, they had no right to be in your garage in the first place. Should file a complaint. I have two old cars I haven't registered for years ( I should be getting rid of them) sitting in my drive way. I have never gotten such a tow sticker before and I'm in California.
I once lived in an HOA neighborhood and found all the rules stifling and made damn sure my next house was not HOA. My experience is that HOAs have a lot of nosy busy-bodies who will report any infraction and you have no choice but to comply because when you bought or leased you agreed to the rules however unreasonable they may seem.
Imagine buying a house in an hoa hood, then violating the rules of the hoa...not saying that the hoa actions are right, but you gotta look at it from all angles...if hoa is outta control, they are harassing people...and should be subject to legal action.
@@godfather6942 I wouldn't stop people from forming a voluntary association with their own rules as long as you can leave without hassle. What should be illegal is the practice of forcing you to be in one because you buy a certain house.
There are Hoa's in the states that have rules that you cannot leave a car parked in the driveway in front of your own hatshepsut even if it's your own car
I owned a home in a non-HOA neighborhood and had a truck with lapsed registration. After 30 days, the city sent mail saying it was an eye sore and I had 30 days to move it from my driveway. It's not just HOA's.
I'll never live in an HOA again....I would take my garbage can out on garbage day at 12 noon before I go to work, I worked 2pm to 12am, garbage man would pick up trash at 4pm, HOA would drive by at 8pm and see my trash can still out and fine me $25.
That exact thing happened to me!! My fine came in mailbox with picture of trash can in Street. Funny thing is . You could see all neighborhood cans still out in the street, in picture.
@jrc3 I cannot lie. I totally would do it once I figured out where their cameras were, and im sure they will have them. Those would be my first target.
Then you should've moved into a different neighborhood from the start. You don't fit in. I'll be damn if I'm going to look at trash cans around the neighborhood all day. I pull my cans back in usually before 6am on trash days like everyone else in our area. Some people like really clean looking spaces others don't which is great- just buy a home elsewhere. If more HOA would raise their prices close to the $1k month then we'd have less fiscally able people bitching because they'd do their homework before moving in and the riff raff would be fiscally unable to move in due to the HOA. Thankfully $ can still be used as a hedge against those most apt to be problem neighbors.
They should have done this as the boot was on private property, thus it's now my property and I can destroy it if I want. If the car was on the road, different story, but it wasn't and the tow company can't even call it theft lol.
My friend in high school had an HOA in their neighborhood. A neigbor asked the HOA to have my friend's family take down their pride flag because it was "too political". The issue was, the flag was INSIDE the house, hanging up my friend's BEDROOM, and wasn't particularly visible from the road. HOA called my friend's family about the flag, but their parents were less concerned with taking the flag down, and moreso wanted to know why their neighbors were looking into their child's bedroom.
Yes, I believe they are violating with "tampering with a vehicle" laws. Police who may boot your vehicle for unpaid fines may be the only ones who can legally do this.
We just moved into our second new home in two years -- all due to two back to back bad HOAs. And I was the President of both. I asked not to be on both but they appointed me anyway so I tried to do right by the homeowners by making sure we did what was necessary properly. And not doing anything harmful to anyone. I was targeted by sociopaths on the two boards. I now live 40 minutes away on 5 acres in a brand new home. I drive longer but no one is screwing with me. I am free.
$50 bucks to a cutting torch operator will take care of those boots. And, the plus side is that the HOA gestapo won't be able to use them on anyone else's vehicles.
You're assuming that the bylaws allow ownership of power tools. From some of the other stories out there, I wouldn't be surprised if some would foreclose on your home within hours of using an angle grinder.
@@protoborg You never own the home. To "buy", you generally have to sign documents that give the HOA the ability to foreclose on the property in case of nonpayment of dues or violations of bylaws. Also, you may even have to finance through the HOA as part of the sales agreement, making them your bank in this case. And all of that has been upheld in multiple states as perfectly fine & legal.
@@TheAttacker732 Citation needed. HOAs are just a collection of the residents in that neighborhood. They have no legal power. They also have no power to enforce loans and such. So I highly doubt they have been granted those rights in court.
@@TheAttacker732 Further, YES YOU DO own your home in an HOA. The Home OWNERS Association is just that; a group of home owners in a community. I don't know what HOA you have ever been a part of but the very term shows how wrong you are. You are thinking of the group that runs a GATED community. There is a BIG difference.
@@ald8612 IKR? He acts as if all you have to do is show up and singlehandedly vote out all the HOA members, as if none of the residents there will vote the other way or shout you down if you speak out. Chances are any HOA neighborhood has been taken over by NPC sheep who actually enjoy being dominated and controlled and are triggered by the very notion of anyone wanting personal freedom.
Last time I got booted I was parked in a lot that I had permission to park in. I grabbed my work bag out of the trunk and picked the lock leaving the boot in the same spot I was parked in. Guess that part time job working for a locksmith after highschool came in handy.
someone needs to invent the 'boot boot' a device you can place on a boot after removing it in a non destructive fashion that prevents it from being used again untill they pay you to remove it.
Property value, road maintenance and other street utilities. Some places offer security. Real-estate benefits. Most hoa’s don’t have problems with the residents and vice-versa. You only hear of the bad cases on media, never good cases. And like with any place with more than 1 person, conflicts will happen.
HOAs own the shared land. Someone has to pay for the upkeep on the community swimming pool. Someone has to mow the lawn in the park. If you read the HOA rules before you buy the property and you can live with the restrictions, power to you. Even more if you go and run for office - I can almost guarantee you'll win, as I've watched several dozen elections where there were more open spots than there were people running, and never one where there were more people running than there were open spots.
@@dylanvan3300 Taxes pay for street maintenance and utilities. I know people who live in gated communities with security patrols that have had their houses broken into. "Property value" is subjective no matter what you or any realtor says. Lets hear some good stories? Because I'd bet it'll all be just common sense stuff that any sane person would have no problem with. Meanwhile, the bad stories are pointless, petty, tyrannical overreach. Instead of getting mad at your neighbor for having a flag hanging on his porch you don't like (or on the more extreme, has an unmowed yard with 2 dead cars in it). Maybe get mad at the system that punishes you by taking away your propertys value based on things that are out of your control. Chances are, if you can afford to live in a place with an HOA, then you can afford to move if you get to not liking it. Use your freedom instead of pissing on other people's.
@@jimdandy8119 "Taxes pay for street maintenance and utilities." Depends on the roads and utilities. If they are privately owned roads then the residents are on the hook to pay for maintenance. But I agree with you. To me HOA's are just local gangs that have gotten together to collectively micro-manage other people. Shaking down home owners for "maintenance fees".
Ours helps maintain the park and the entrance areas. They have also helped when the neighborhood next to us was being built and the contractor became overzealous with a chainsaw. Cut down several trees that were NOT on his property. HOA sued on behalf of the residents and he was fined. Once that neighborhood was built, suddenly our neighborhood was a cut through from one major city road to another. They worked to improve speed limit postings, speed bumps in the worst spot, and occasional police monitoring when the perpetual speeders start getting out of hand again. Not all HOA's are bad. Membership is not mandatory on our neighborhood.
Another reason most HOAs suck. There’s only a few that are worth it. The ones with a golf course, big clubhouse, 24/7 security, mowing your lawn and shoveling your snow, throws big block party’s etc. The ones that have nothing but homes, fees and rules are a waste of money
Mt parents moved into a subdivision with an HOA, the lady who was the president tormented the neighborhood with her Jackbooted rules and regulations , I'm not entirely sure how it came about but somehow my dad was able to get her position and with the majority of the council and neighborhood he shut down the HOA . To this date they still don't have an HOA in that neighborhood. I will never ever buy a home with an HOA .
Actually, that subdivision still has an HOA, as no one can just simply turn it off, not even by voting as they are regulated by the state... that subdivision is just mananged by a property management company or the state, who would have turned it over to a properly management company... A subdivision can not simply turn of their HOA... and being the HOA members elected to turn over their management over to the state, they still follow the same bylaws, restrictions and even pay their association dues they had before... *But the story did sound good...*
@@jimmymckay73 - ops, sorry, maybe this will help... *_Read Your initial comment. Then read My initial comment..._* _If still confused, reread what I typed above this sentence..._
@@jimmymckay73 - wow, OK they got their HOA dissolved. So who or what took over the HOA assets? (storm water maintenance, electric bill for street lights, and common area maintenance) If they had any... Hopefully the subdivision didn't have any common areas and it was easy for them to dissolve it. Good for him.
@@christianh5826 I perfectly understand an HOA, the issue is they work for you. I have family members who have lived in areas with them and I can tell you they are absolute idiocy. The People who are in charge half the time are not capable of such a task of running such an organization. An HOA sounds good on paper but in reality it is a complete failure. The HOA My Grand Parents use to have put in a rule where the homeowners cannot sue the Hoa board. WTF Can of bs is this? This only happened they got sued 3 times in 7 years. Yet that is what they change, not the HOA Itself, it is pathetic. The HOA My Aunt and Uncle lived in was in a very rural area where everyone had roughly 10+ acres. My Aunt and Uncle had a motor home they wrecked and parked behind their shed for nearly 15 years. So long the tree line staring growing and hiding it from the main house. When my Uncle cut the trees down, tore the shed done, and towed the RV to his main drive way did his HOA Start complaining about it.
@@christianh5826 HOA's inspectors can not enter private property for enforcement. They can take picture from the sidewalk, but they can not legally be on private property, only community property or public property. I'm VP of my HOA specifically to protect homeowner's right. I was tired of unreasonable rules so I ran for VP and won.
@@aaronbritt2025 Depends on the HOA, but most of them do not allow 'no trespassing' signs and do allow HOA enforcers to enter private yards. If written in the contract they could enter your house at will, though I doubt many are written that way. It is a legal contract that the homeowner agrees to where nearly any right can be given away and all stipulations in the contract are fully enforceable in court. Congrats on VP and making the best of your situation. I am also in an HOA as all new developments around here have one, but thankfully it is currently inactive.
knurlgnar24 no they can’t idiot. They would be a major violation of your rights if I see any unwelcome person in my home they will be shot in self defense
Texas here (Hutto). I got a neighbor who was fined $317 b/c he left his dumpster outside, then he was fined another $317 b/c he did not cut his lawn. For my case I got a certified letter b/c my lawn was not cut low enough compared to my neighbor's lawn: keeping your lawn a little bit taller allows you not to water that much, that was the reason behind. I guess HOA is not eco-friendly at all :D So this year in retaliation against HOA I decided not to water my lawn anymore, this is my right and it's an unalienable right. I hate HOA.
I recently Xeriscaped under all my trees in front, saving water on hot Texas drought summers. Imagine if I had an HOA, they probably would have put me in front of a firing squad.......lol.
Well technically I grew up in the ghetto. The city is practically labeled by the other people in other cities around as ghetto and dangerous. As hella ghetto as it is and all the crazy riots after cop killing a black man. It has diverse amount of food from around the world. Also the most dangerous ghetto neighborhood I grew up in is being gentrified. Which is good and bad. Nicer neighborhood, but hella homeless people.
@@donmulder8061 Only the people who don't naturally conform to the rules of the neighborhood have an issue. You don't have an issue if you keep your lawn meticulously without having to be told. You don't have an issue if you park your cars in the garage so the neighborhood maintains a clean look. You don't have an issue if you naturally don't have crappy looking plants, figurines, and other trailer-trashy looking junk in the front of the home. The HOA is to protect the responsible from the relative few.
@@likeawhispr Not exactly. The issue nowadays is that HOAs have been able to expand their powers to the point where they have near-absolute power over homeowners with little to no accountability. If we were talking about 10 to 20 clearly articulated covenants that were listed in the Declaration when you signed the purchase agreement then I would agree. But what is happening instead is now HOA's have very vague covenants that leave too much open to interpretation and the board of directors is given carte blanch to adopt rules and regulations to expound on them as they see fit. That is how you get a situation where someone who buys a single family home with 4 indoor cats being told 18 months later that the board has decided that three house pets is the limit and you now have to get rid of an indoor cat when it has no bearing on others (I saw this first hand and it was personal retribution). Insanity. This is your home. No neighbor should have that much power over you. People are starting to wake up. This is not like you make it sound. I have been an HOA board President multiple times and have served on non-HOA Boards as well so I know what I am talking about. You sound like one of the tyrants who abuse people frankly.
@@donmulder8061 It is exactly like I'm making it sound most of the time. There are always ludicrous exceptions but in most cases it's the homeowner that's breaking reasonable rules and then complaining because they think it's petty. Most of this HOA stuff happens in the cheaper neighborhoods. You don't have such crap going on as much in other areas, mostly because the types of people who have to be told to keep up their home don't have to be told the obvious. If you pay a 1,500mo fee, you have less issue than someone paying a$75 fee. Seriously, we both know the general difference between the two HOA's and the people who run them / live in those areas.
To the Sterling Place HOA: Did it not occur to you to ask the woman in this video if she actually moved into her parents house and went on vacation before you booted her car?
Lol I live in South Mississippi. They do. Stuff like 2 car driveways and no one can park on the street. What? You want to have your family over for xyz event/holiday? Pay up sucka! I had an uncle who bought a new house for 4x what the one he was living in under the HOA was worth just so he didn't have to move to another area to get out from underneath them. There are spinless suckers in every state.
I bought a home 22 years ago and immediately I started getting HOA violation notices in my mailbox. Long story short. I still own the home and within 3 years of buying it, I had gotten rid of the HOA.
Please do elaborate can an hoa be dissolved or are you saying the just stopped bothering you because I thought they exist as long as the development does
rite...awful...a guy i know his wife was planting flowers n they got cited bec she planting the wrong flowers. only 4 types of flowers approved. they moved
READ THE HOA BYLAWS. She had her car booted because the Bylaws do not allow cars parked over a certain number of days. Many Hoa's also require no street parking due to street cleaning. If you do not want to follow rules DO NOT PURCHASE OR RENT A HOME IN AN HOA GOVERNED SUBDIVISION ! ! !
The problem is finding non HOA properties. The developers set them up when to scam more money out of residents. I guess it'd have to be an older neighborhood which will probably be much more expensive.
@@jamesmartin9401 I lived in a neighborhood in SW Portland that had an HOA. My house was built in 1977 but the HOA was established in 1965. To this day, that entire neighborhood is pristine and I owe it to the HOA Bylaw enforcement. It's the property "Plats" that are HOA governed, and those homes within the "Plats" not the individual homes.
My SRT was booted once in my driveway. HOA damaged the rim in the process. I made one phone call. I told them I would get an attorney. In which I did and my attorney got them to pay for the rim. Once that was all taken care of I called HOA back. And reminded them that I pay for my house and my property. And if HOA comes on my property again that they’d either be leaving in handcuffs or a body bag for trespassing. Never had more do I have problems anymore
MainID it was tried in a court in NJ. Illegal booting is a crime there and the company responsible has no expectation that their boot will be returned without damage. There are numerous You Tube videos on how to open a boot with common tools. I would not admit to destroying one of these boots nor would I record the event. I doubt that any jury would convict a person who removed a boot from their car.
@MainID The booting company had a contract to carry out an ILLEGAL activity. What the booting company did is still illegal. It has also been established that HOA bylaws do NOT trump state and federal laws. State law says it is illegal to boot private vehicles on private property.
MainID I guess you own a booting company. There are far more shake down artists and simple thieves booting people than those who practice this despicable art than there are legitimate operators. Being held by force was against your will is a crime. Those who aid and abetted such illegal detention are also criminals. Boots can be removed by destructive methods. They are also easy to open by non destructive methods . Search You Tube for the instructions on how to open and remove a boot. Booting will end when lawsuits make it too expensive to insure a booting operation. That day can not come too soon.
If this happened to me I'd open my garage, get out the jack, lift up the car, cut the boots off, and then throw the boots through the windows on the HOA owners car
I would have cut the boots off my car and hired an attorney to sue the absolute piss out of the hoa just so they got the point that guess what they also have rules to go by
Imagine. Spending 100's of thousands of dollars for a home.
Then, having to listen to someone tell you what you can and can't do with it.
Never.
Thats a fact
On the flipside of the coin is that without an HOA people can park cars on the lawn. I imagine that there must be a demand for them otherwise why build with an HOA? How does that make the builder more money?
The board is made up of residents, not some group of faceless bureaucrats. It's you r responsibility to know who you voted into power and to be aware of the rules you bought into. Attend the meetings and be heard. Too many residents are apathetic and let things go until the end up on the receiving end of new policies they didn't care stay on top of.
@@neilkurzman4907 It makes the builder more money through the HOA dues paid each month, the ridiculous rules and regulations resulting in fines, fines, fines, and the restrictions on how or what improvements you can make on your home in the future, many of the changes of which can only be done through "approves" vendors who are usually in some way connected to the builder as well. Way to many of HOAs are usually founded through the builder in the first place.
@@clarky23
I guess if that is how it’s set up then that would be a problem. I live in a condominium with an HOA. There is a common property so it requires one. It has no connection to the builder, or a property manager.
Buying a HOA house: I want to spend my life and savings buying this house, but...I want to be treated like a child with abusive parents.
Living in HOA is no different than living under a landlord
@@2A5X4A I've never seen landlords THIS strict.
@@jonny45k44 I have, in my dads neighborhood you can’t even have mud on your car or even have your tags expired without getting fined.... it’s crazy
Exactly. Even apartments are not like this
@@2A5X4A not all landlords, our first landlord would help us if we needed something or accidentally broke something, he was really nice. My mom decided to move because one of our neighbour wouldn’t stop harassing us (lived in a nice duplex btw). Our landlord said that if we stayed just 3 more days we could have the entire house, but our neighbour called the cops on us for the 2 time that week for some stupid reason I can’t even remember. At that point my mom was ready to beat the crap out of her (she’s Jamaican), so we just moved. We were pretty upset about the move because the next house was crap and we had a crappier land lord. Luckily our present landlord is really nice.
First rule of living in an HOA. NEVER LIVE IN ONE
Bingo. Thanks to videos like this one, I never will.
It’s free scrap metal just get an angle grinder
Yup. I used to want to live in a condo for my first home, thinking it would be more affordable. Nope, HOA fees bring it right back up to the same price as a house, but with more rules and authority. As if local & federal government weren't enough to deal with.
I did it, so can you!
What is a HOA. ?
The fact that there are lawyers who specifically practice hoa law, should tell you everything you need to know about hoas
The fact there are lawyers that specifically practice consumer protections laws, should tell you everything you need to know about capitalism.
@@anastasiacline6159 The fact that practicing law and being a lawyer are non-existent in communist countries should tell you everything you need to know about how fair their due process is.
- A communist country survivor
@@anastasiacline6159 oof that is cringe as hell, marxiboy
@@anastasiacline6159 at least you'd be able to get one to help you under capitalism. Kinda hard to use someone over something you dont even own.
@@kova1577 TBH, saying "marxiboy" is cringe
HOA are the Karens of real estate. Finding little things to complain about
HOA residents are cash cows for the 'committee' members.
HOAs are nothing but groups assembles to defraud people of their money.
Fraud is fraud.
TERRORISTS , TAKE YOUR MONEY AND TELL YOU HOW TO LIVE YOUR LIFE!!!!!!
Best analogy ever
A house belonging to an HOA sgould lower its value.
I got booted in downtown Austin last year in a parking lot that I had permission from the owner to be in. The company that booted me refused to take it off unless I paid. I'm a contractor I had a cordless angle grinder in my truck I cut it off while the tow guy went to get the police who were down the block. The cop laughed when they walked up. He didn't actually see me cut it but there was in pieces on the ground. He let me go the tow guy was yelling that they were going to sue me for the cost of the boot and for the fine. I've never heard anything from them that happened in December 2019.
if it was brought to court the residing judge would of laughed that tow company into bankruptcy especially when you had Prior permission by the parking lot owner ...ive seen that happen alot OR when they boot n tow a vehicle when a person is in a store thats right at the parking lot especially those that have LIMITED time parking .. some companies go as far as having spotters in plain vehicles near by to call the tow driver the second the vehicle is out of sight to hook & go without even notifying the vehicle owner especially when the allowed time hasnt even ended. a company in chicago was doing that and were on Tv news for their missuse of the law many times to the fact they went as far as changing the name of the company at least 8 times ....and having spotters & towing when your not hired by the city or lot owner and removing vehicles before the parking time is up is totally illegal and more force of these laws need to be put on tow companies who do this practice
nicely done...if the tow guy wasnt there, i wouldve made sure to drop off the pieces at that business's door, LOL
@@Erik-pr2rf It's a very risky play to knowingly tow a vehicle unlawfully. Grand theft auto is the criminal charge, and violence is always a possibility. People don't tend to treat people caught stealing their cars very nicely.
In London, there's a guy who dresses in a mask and cape who calls himself Angle Grinder Man who goes around with an angle grinder, anonymously removing the boots from people's cars.
If you ever in south austin let buy you a beer
When has an HOA ever done anything good?
Never.
Tons! I wouldn't live in a neighborhood without one, and the stronger the better. Human nature in America is basic white trash, with few exceptions. Without a strong HOA you would have idiots working on their cars in the street right in front of their house, using old toilets as flower pots, turning their garages into man caves in other words it would be DOG PATCH USA!
Never.
Never.
Never
My community used to have an HOA. The woman who started it was decent, she didn't go full blown Karen and threaten you or anything, she'd literally just ask you politely and her asks usually weren't unreasonable. A guy had his sprinkler on and it covered the sidewalk, she asked him to move it back a bit and he obliged. A dude had a confederate flag and his neighbors complained, she didn't do anything except tell them he has the right to be offensive. All in all she was pretty chill. Then she died. And her daughter took over. And her daughter was exactly like how you'd think. She started giving fines to people who had a car in their drive way or had flowers she didn't like in their garden. She wound up being sued and the HOA was disbanded but it's crazy to me how chill and relaxed her mother was and how absolutely insane this woman turned out to be. Would literally go into your backyard and look around and fine you for violations. She should have gone to jail but she was sued so hard she sold the house so I guess it's a win/win. For what it's worth, I know HOA's are terrible but my house and neighborhood were pristine for years and then the HOA disbanded and honestly the quality has noticeably gone down, mostly in the roads and people are much more lenient with clutter but I can live with that compared to having a crazy HOA lady.
Good for you honestly letting HOA exist in the first place is already a mistake let's ve real here we all hate does crazy adult pretending to be children on how they act running around doing stupid things
They did booting in my HOA several years ago. My neighbor called the police and they contacted the property manager and told them if the boot was not removed immediately, someone would be arrested. Booting is considered tampering with a vehicle and is against the law, at least in my city in Orange County, CA.
Good to know.
they once booted my mailbox because it didn't have the right color
@@petergibbons607 Idiots!!
@@petergibbons607probably slept with the head of the Hoas wife.
My diamond cutoff wheel would make short work of any boot
They always apologize after they get exposed, never before they get caught.
They’re low level politicians and or bureaucrats. Of course they are going to over step their bounds.
They apologize for getting caught not for doing misdeeds. Just like slick willy and his hildabeast.
And they only apologize to the people who catch them, no apology or refund to those who don't complain. = free money.
I’ve been the president of my hoa for about a year now and the only reason I did that was to destroy it from the inside out 😏
Same. After I got a violation notice for having a rake handle visible through my garage window, I became the VP.
@@aaronbritt2025 hold on... expound on that tale please.
That’s the way to go to fight it the right way and actually make it better for the community which is what’s supposed to be in the first place 😉
My dad joined the HOA because they wouldn’t let him put real metal shutters on our windows (Florida, the hurricane state)
There is actual logic in that remark
Former work colleague of mine bought HOA home in Sacramento CA.. They were moving some wood from the back of their vehicle to the patio area which took them several trips. They left the garage door up during this process. Several days later, they received a warning letter noting that they violated one of the HOA rules about exposing the garage interior to the public, ie. the rest of the HOA community. I just think that HOA staff members in all places are on some major power trip.
It’s so creepy that they care
By that "rule" anyone who ever opens their Garage for any reason is in violation even if it means they're parking their car in the garage.
HOA's are brainless money grabbers
Same here. I'm selling the house by the end of the year. I was told that I couldn't store my trash cans behind my backyard gate on the side of the house because the gate doesn't have a blocking screen on it. I have also had the garage door open and warmed to close it when I get in. Another one was that I had my trees trimmed, and I was told that one tree wasn't growing leaves fast enough and that I needed to replace it with another tree or get a fine once a week at $100. It cost me $750 to replace it. I'm out! Never again!
This and I just saw another story (6 years old) where the HOA demanded everyone leave their garages open.
Never buy a home WITH a HOA..bet a family member of the HOA owns the towing company issuing tickets n placing d boots.. They line their pockets this way ..
Yep human nature is predictable af. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely
@AA Sharp Predatory and illegal is the definition of HOAs in general.
Have torch will travel
@Teller of unfortunate Truths seems like d biggest n worst social demeanor person gets d job of enforcing hoa rules...the person they elect has no social etiquette (d azz hole of area everyone hates) ..i know exactly d grief you caught...if id a known before we built , id of never purchased the property..love d house , location & neibors but d hoa ruined my first home buying experience...take our advice people , do not buy a home where you are held hostage by a HOA. You will feel like you are paying fee's to be incriminated..by your own dang MONEY!
@AA Sharp There is nothing illegal about hiring a contractor because they are a friend or family member.
This reminds me of a story my little brother told me about the HOA in my old neighborhood. Guy moves in to his house and brings his expensive Resto-mod with him. It's an old 1930's delivery truck, but it has a new frame, suspension, and a Brand New LS motor and 6 speed trans in it. He spent like $90,000 on that thing. HOA had it towed from his driveway because they thought it looked like and "abandoned" vehicle. He takes them to court, shows all the paperwork for the truck, even brings in proof it passed state inspection and runs. HOA lady can't wrap her head around someone spending that kind of money on "rusty trash". Judge sides with the truck owner and cleans out the HOA bank account to give to the plaintiff as compensation, he is now also entitled to 3/4 of the HOA yearly dues until the day he dies. Guess the judge hates HOA's too...
Edit: Holy Crap this blew up! It only took three years and a handful of Trolls...
Cool. He can fix up another rust bucket on their dime.
This story made my day.
Buy controlling interest in the HOA, elect yourself to all positions, disband the HOA, and enjoy the profits as property value increases. And do it with their own money.
On that day, some one either me or them, would have died !!
@@timothyroatenberry1274 they did it in the middle of the night, he didn't know until the next morning.
Can you send imagine “buying your home” and not being able to park in your drive as freely as you want smh
@Take down commies Don't vote democrat so were they watching you house?!? Like how did they know that she didn’t leave and that’s just creepy
Simple: Dont buy in a HOA...
She didn't live there.
No HOA is going to tell me who can park on my driveway I paid for. They would be off I 1 min with a side grinder in court I question would be who gave you permission to be on my land
@@dknowles60 You gave them permission when you signed.
When you are shopping around for a new home, and an HOA home catches your eye...ALWAYS see if you can legally opt out of the HOA. In some cases you can. Always check the fine print and have property lawyers look over any contracts for you. It costs you money, but in the long run will save you from a potential nightmare.
Make sure to never buy a house in hoa sadly that's very common so it's impossible to do it
My hoa booted my work truck. They made a rule about work trucks a year after we purchased the house. I was told that I grandfathered in. So I used said work truck to cut said boot off. It was great.
Hopefully you invited them to watch.
What do they have against work trucks anyway? They dont like people that work?? Commies!
@@HaroldtheDon Hah! Rich people don't work! That's why no work trucks allowed. Can't have people thinking poor people live there...
@@nispelsm You'd be surprised how much some tradesmen get paid.
@@jaykilbourne1110 Anything that requires a work truck is viewed as peasant work by the white collars, even if that white collar gets paid the minimum
While we were looking for a house we told the realtor absolutely no HOA. The first agent tried to show us houses in a hoa. She was replaced that day.
The next time I move that is exactly the same thing I'm going to say to my realtor.
Good on you!!! 🤘🤘🤘
The last time that I moved, I ended up firing my first agent for the same reason.
I specifically told my realtor "no HOA" as well, and they were really good about sticking to it. I ended up in a house with no HOA, only to find out that a group of neighbors was in the process of trying to "incorporate" the neighborhood. Legally, that would be turning generic county land into an incorporated township and it would result in a mayor, town council, local laws, and taxes to support all of that. Effectively about the same thing as establishing an HOA, except that there would be no way to opt out individual properties. Luckily that all got voted down and hasn't come back up again, but it was amazing how passionately some people wanted it. The people who were for it were really into the idea of putting speed bumps on the streets, camera speed traps, more stop signs, and prohibiting parking on the street.
When I lived in south Chicago, I booted my own car. So it wouldn't get stolen lol
Good idea
🤣🤣🤣 Smart!
Because its a city run by Snowflakes ❄☃️
This is the proper defense!
Sad
When I was buying my house, I told the realtor, in no uncertain terms, NO HOAs!!! I wasn't going to drop $250,000 for a house, and then pay monthly dues for the privilege of having someone fine me because my bushes were the "wrong" shape or my mailbox the "wrong" color.
Did anyone take the HOA to court? Sounds like the HOA should be fined and replaced.
Replaced lol more like eliminated !
exactly
Nah more like they should be replaced with Children
@@7381366 Shut them down!
I had this happen to my old work truck, took pictures to prove it was in my own driveway, then cut it off with a grinder and threw away the summons which was STAPLED to my front door. Turned out my neighbor put it on claiming to be the HOA happened to be heading out the door as he was STAPLING another fake fine to my door for damaging the "property of the HOA and ignoring previous fine" there was no HOA and it was half of a duplex. Cops get called he gets removed from my property with a warning comes back an hour later and STAPLES yet another notice on my door cops come yet again and my neighbor gets arrested for trespassing destruction of private property assaulting an officer and resisting arrest. My landlord sued him for the cost of a new door.
Good!
After all that stapling that he did I hope you landlord sewed his cheeks together.
He booted the vehicle... He gets booted out of the house.
😆😆😆
@@erichanastacio9695 I don't know why, but that reminds me of the Bruce Willis 'departure' scene in Sin City. Fair exchange.
He should also have been charged with three counts of fraud.
Living in an HOA neighborhood ...
is like having a team of Karen(s) on you 24/7/365
my karen has been quiet for awhile now... she got blasted in an email... and someone... I have NO IDEA who... thermited her car.
@@jointedlimb savage mode
*24/7/52
Logical progression would be hours in a day, days within a week, weeks within a year. Adding "365" is redundant. Either say "24/7" which encompasses the entire year, or "24/7/52" which is more specific but encapsulates the same idea but there's 52 weeks in a year. Hell, even 24/365 makes more sense. Saying "24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year" lists days twice and is just dumb. "24/7" never had to make such a distinction for years because it was simply implied.
Leap year, its free!
I would get complaints all the time I have an older GMC truck and its loud doesn't help I work nights so I get home around 11pm-12am lol
My brother had to repaint his house & the HOA provided him with the approved paint color from Home Depot. He repainted his home & the HOA said it was the wrong shade of color. They started giving him a daily fine until he repainted the house to the proper color. My brother insisted he used the right shade of color & he battled them for months while his fines accumulated. It wasn't until another homeowner had the same problem that they realized Home Depot had discontinued that shade of color years ago & the HOA didn't know it!
My friends property values were ruined by people who built a house next door, right next to the street and 3 stories tall, because most of the lot was protected swampland. THen they painted the house "hunter orange"
A good HOA protects your property values by keeping the neighborhood clean and uniform.
@@FloridaMugwump uniform…..OK comrade
@@ralan350 I'm not Pro or 'Anti HOA, genius, I just pointed out that they have some advantages. People here are free to choose. You don't like it, pack up and move back to whatever Commie craphole your people came from. Mine have all been here since the 1640's or earlier. We believe in Freedom to live however you choose.
Imagine not being able to paint your house a certain color. And it sounds like your brother painted his house a reasonable color too, not neon pink or something.
@@orppranator5230 I had a friend with no HOA and the neighbor built a three story house and painted it hunter orange.
So, they AREN'T allowed to boot the vehicle and force people to pay fines without due process? ANGLE GRINDER TIME!
Set up a partition so no one can see. Grind that sucker off and dispose of it. Remove partition hours later. Boot, what boot? I don't see no boot.
That was like a $10 boot, they probably could have peeled it off with their bare hands.
Replace the tire with a spare... Angle grind the boot inside the garage (away from prying eyes).
Repeat for the second booted wheel.
Unfortunately they signed a contract allowing this when purchasing. HOA's can and often do suck (not all of them) but buyer beware is always true.
@@Scroll_Lock actually it's illegally in many areas to use boots if you're not the "city"
we apologize for the illegal kickback scam we tried to run on our clients...
Did they trespass in order to place a boot? Yes!
That’s what I thought, too. They can’t do that. It’s private property. Who pays the property tax?
Most states its not trespassing unless there is a no trespass sign, you are crossing a fence, or the owner tells you to leave. Such as south carolina and Texas has this as the statute, so that wouldnt constitute trespass but it may fall under damage to private property.
Get punitive damages too
Havoc Nation Riders your drive away is your property idiot you don’t need a no trespassing sign
@@havocnationriders755 if you enter someone's property and mess with their things it is tress passing.
Imagine if you needed to go to the ER for something, or had to make an emergency run for someone else.
As a board member of my HOA, we made the decision to briefly allow emergency vehicles after much debate.
However, you can get this privlidge revoked if they have come twice already in a rolling 12 month period. So many people abuse this (like the old people and that stupid cancer woman) that there needed to be a hard limit.
Back in 2015 our neighborhood HOA booted my dads truck 6 times because it was "too big and made the neighborhood look cluttered" when in reality it was a new resident karen down the street who complained for 3 months because my dad left for work early and her bedroom window was always open despite my dad having the truck for 5 years. Long story short my dad who owns every power tool known to man, pulled out his angle grinder and cut the boot off every single time. The boots cost about 400 each and tried to sue my dad and failed miserably.
now that is the way it should be
Your Dad rocks. For those less prepared: You can rent angle grinders.
Now that is funny. Your dad‘s truck gets booted, so early in the morning when he goes to leave for work, he hast to make a lot more noise cutting the boots off. The neighbor should have left him alone!
@@TheRealDrJoeyI have a warrior angle grinder from harbor freight, $14... Never let me down in 4 yrs
My neighbor used to be a semi driver, and he actually owned the tractor part. One day some idiot Code Enforcement officer tried to tell him it was illegal to park in the neighborhoo. Bob told him that it was his own personal ride, and he pointed to about 8 or 10 trucks and vans that were all commercial vehicles. He said if it's illegal for him to park in the neighborhood, it's also illegal for them, and he'd look at parking elsewhere once those others moved. We don't have a HOA, so it was probably some ignorant neighbor calling Code Enforcement.
I would cut the damn things off.
@MainID not if it is on my property
@MainID Corporations are not the government.
MainID if you boot MY car on MY property your company just gave me a free tire boot. If they want to come and get it they can pay me 500 bucks. It’s that easy. My property isn’t public. My property sitting on my property still isn’t public.
@@wolfpacva - And sell them to the recycler for scrap metal.
@@dereklea1183 free money! Glad i know how to remove wheels and use power tools.
Buying a house in an HOA is literally saying 'I need more corruption in my life'
Some people dont have a choice if they want to live in a decent neighborhood
@@succwong4642 You sign the contract, you have a choice.
@@succwong4642 this isnt a nice neighborhood if they're illegally booting your car.
@@draven4464 You also have the choice to participate as well, you have just as much power in the HOA as any other resident.
This is neighborhood corruption
If you buy in an HOA, you must understand that you never really 'own' your home...you're just renting even though you're paying a mortgage. HOA's need to to be severely restricted in what they can and can't do. They never seem to back down unless you hire a lawyer to point out the illegality of their actions. In an HOA, they're right until proven wrong...and often that means the 'homeowner' having to sue the HOA which means incurring unnecessary legal fees to do so.
Like like a condo , mortgage, utilities, property taxes and condo fees each month, my sister lives in a new really minty condo, big place, about 2000 sq,ft and had indoor parking with an indoor car wash, coin op, cost you 2 bucks to wash your car, get condo fees are more than her property taxes each month, wow, $450/ month
Agree 100% severely restrict them
No one in the United States owns property outright except the government.
That's BS. Property is property. It just comes with an obligation to help contribute to maintainance of services you use, such as private roads.
99% of problems people have with HOAs is because they're doing wrong but they think they're entitled, or they didn't bother to read the rules at all.
And no, you misrepresenting the rest too. The HOA can follow their own viewpoint, but if they need to collect a fine off of you, that's when they must prove their case in court. And unless you no-show and get a default judgement, that's when incorrect fines end up quashed.
@@SVEVelsen When someone can dictate what friggin window treatments I'm using INSIDE my home... then I'm renting vs owning. And no, 99% of problems aren't because they're doing something wrong, just not doing it the way Karen's like you want it done.
1- When you're getting fined because your grass is 1" too high... that's a problem with the HOA.
2- When am HOA can foreclose on your house while you're deployed because they decided they didn't like the colour of your garage door and fined you $50/day. But the only notices were stuck on your door which you didn't see because you were 5,000 miles away for 3 months... that's a problem with HOA's.
Listen, you want to live as a bunch of invasive and petty people feel you should live... go right ahead sheep.
Moral of the story: never buy a house in a neighborhood with an HOA.
Unless you buy an old house in an old neighborhood, good luck!
NEVER
@@JustWasted3HoursHereor live in small town America. Hoa’s are basically nonexistent there
I got my pickup booted in downtown St Paul years ago. They must not have noticed the torch tanks in the back. Thanks for the scrap!
From there as well. I used my sledgehammer on it and broke it into pieces.
Kudos to you, SIR! I am still laughing.
Torch would take too long. I just use grinders to remove boots.
St Paul is a joke. I just like the State Fair lol
HOA's can not "give" permission to trespass, period.
I got sucked into an HOA because they didn't disclose it until I went to signing (legal at the time), so I was stuck. Luckily, it was a poorly drafted one and had no paint color restrictions.
I was repainting the house and had thought I'd picked a tan with a little coral tone to it. Nope, I had 10 gallons of Flamingo Pink.
Since the house was block, my plan was to just use the Flamingo as a base coat and paint over it. The HOA threw such a fit and threatened me that I kept it for 5 years (I didn't like the color). When they finally stopped, since there was nothing they could do, I repainted it a delightfully bland off white.
These are the type of people that make we want to paint every windowsill a different colour just because I can.
@@demondogmom7221 Not all heroes wear capes, but some carry flamingo pink paint
@@demondogmom7221 i be kinda pist to see a pink house, tbh. But if you had put up a giant F-U HoA sign in your yard at the time, I would have loved that color.
@srobeck77 - yeah I didn't like it either, but threatening me brings out the absolute worst in me. I realized I was supposed to be intimidated / scared and that just fired me up even more. They finally learned to make sure they were following the covenants and leave me alone.
Why, WHY anyone would live in a home THEY bought and PAY other people to tell them what they can or can’t do on THEIR property is so beyond me. I can’t imagine EVER being that ignorant.
i mean there is a line. Obviously most HOA are out oft heir minds, but if you have one guy that comes along and makes his house look like trash, well it does hurt the value of the neighbors homes. YOu see HOA in high real estate value places like new york toronto and vancouver. They are trying to increase the value of their properties.
Many are and do.
@JackJackKcajify How's that boot taste?
I have no idea what draws people to HOA communities. You own your home and it's like paying rent to live there and be bossed around. And in turn, what exactly do they do for you that's so outstanding? I looked at a townhouse recently, thinking I'll sell my house and have less work in my twilight years, then I saw the townhouse had an HOA.......I ran away when I saw that and never looked back. I wouldn't live there for free. I didn't work my entire life to be bossed around in my twilight years by a bunch of flunkies who have been given a little power and decided to run with it. No thanks.
People don't have a choice anymore, theres so much competition for any home that hits the market that people can't afford to be picky or else they'll end up homeless
HOAs should be abolished. They’re all bad and rarely do you have an HOA that doesn’t work righteously. A lot of shadiness.
jay jo it depends on where you live. I have an HOA and they don’t do all of that. At the same time, I’m in a military town and they don’t want those problems. PTSD runs rampant around this area so people kind of walk on eggshells.
You generalize. Home buyers are not forced to buy a home that falls under HOA rules. HOA homes ensure that people won't trash their houses, let weeds grow unabated, park their cars on the lawn, and generally cause drops in home values because neighbors' actions are in bad taste or drive other home owners crazy.
If you feel that HOAs "work righteously," don't buy a home under HOA rules, but don't accuse all HOAs for doing what their membership owners want, and approve of the HOA rules. It's the OWNERS who direct their OWN HOA rules, and it is the OWNERS who can add to or subtract the rules that the OWNERS have established. You don't know what you are talking about. Next time, get some FACTS!
Rep Adam Schiff always reminds me of someone who would be an HOA president!
LEE COX probably already has his legal pad and clip board with a 🖊 pen ready to go and hanging by his front door so he can write up & report his neighbors to the HOA.... For Sure 👍 💯
Yeah, the HOA I live with is fine, it keeps the neighborhood looking nice, and keep property values up.
I never understood booting a car like that, it's so counter intuitive. "Hey! You're parking where you're not supposed to! Let me make sure you can't move from that spot and make the area look bad at the same time!" Good job HOA, You're very smart.
It’s not about the parking space it’s about getting some money.
@@lauracrabb7169 you are correct!
And keep the person from getting to work, school or use for emergency. Thats a dangerous stupid move to boot somones car like that.
The courts have been agreeing with this. You can't tell a person you can't park in a spot and then force them to stay there. Enforcement is removing the vehicle from the property, which no tow truck drive who wants to keep their truck would do from a private property.
Most HOAs are very smart. If you have a half million dollar home would you want someone next door to park a food truck in their driveway? Worse yet, in the street? I did not think so.
As someone in the UK, I just cannot get my head around the HOA. Why is it ever ok to dictate what someone can do with or in their own privately owned property?
@D W yeah, the UK councils who give permission for building work, nothing at all to do with what a house, garden or overall property looks like or the condition it's in. No comparison whatsoever with anything the HOA does
@@boltoniangirl it’s of French origin because of course it is.
The idea is that it protects property values by making sure that people don't paint their houses purple or let their yard go to hell, bringing down property values in the area. BUT! Sometimes they go too far, like in this case. The one we have in our community is pretty benign, but I've heard some horror stories from other people where their HOA was over-the-top strict, like not allowing homeowners to have *ANY* trucks parked in their driveways, period.
Because FOOLISH people buy homes where there's an HOA, KNOWINGLY!!!
I've lived in the US my whole 65 years. I agree 100% with you. HOA's, in my opinion are legalized organized crime.
If my dream home is in an HOA, its no longer my dream home.
Welcome to our HOA Community. The BS and Harassment Fee is waved the first year!!
@@ra15899550 🤣🤣
If she is living there, then she wasn't a visitor, she was a resident and the vehicle is on her own property.
I would never buy in an HOA, you pay people every month in association fees to tell you how to live! How moronic is that?
It’s idiotic!
In Arizona, a guy got so fed up that he went to the HOA board meeting and shot them all up. I don’t condone such actions.
Richard Glassel, Peoria, AZ. April 19, 2000.
I know a guy who just sold his house in an HOA because they wanted to charge everyone $10,000 to re-pave the streets. Hell when we bought our house years back our agent kept trying to sell us HOA homes even after we mad it clear that we would not buy a home with an HOA. They just kept telling us how great they were. It pissed me off so we went to someone else. I have never heard anything good about them from anyone who actually lives in one. Other then the rep trying to sell us a home in one.
Hoas protect property values.
Welcome to America! Home of the dumbest SOB'S on Earth.
HOA’s should be renamed the “Karen Committees”
We have a "Fining Committee" here. They go around on golf carts taking photos and measuring grass length.
rly why does anyone want to live there. i certainly wouldnt! my property my rules
@@SimonBauer7 you r wise beyond your years. I've lived in my home for 21 yrs., I was lied to at closing, sellers told me no hoa. It is HOA and it's a living nightmare. It's like daily living in a circle of hell. I've been in court with them for 8 years now. I sued them 3x & they sued me 2x. Yay 2 HOA case hearings on Sept. 1...
HOA is more fitting... Horrible Obtuse Assholes.
HOA is more fitting... Horrible Obtuse Assholes.
Moral of the story, never live in an HOA.
I would have cut the boots off and thrown them in the trash. That being said that they only fixed the problem because they got called on it. If people hadn’t made such an issue they would have continued to boot vehicles.
Just keep cutting them all off,, those boots must cost a bit!
So glad I live in Australia, where we don’t put up with that crap!
All it takes is one guy with a plasma cutter in his garage to spread the word that for a 6-pack, he will cut off the boot to make it very unprofitable for the company that boots the cars in the driveways. Besides, your driveway is private property, so how can they come on your property and do that to your vehicle.
You bet they would.
Yeah, no HOA where I live, but any extra equipment added to my car without my permission is subject to modification without notice.
I'd cut those boots off and throw them away.
I remember a guy that would go around and unlock car boots, and then re-sell them to the people who went around putting boots on cars. 😁
It’s because of crap like this that I would rather live in the middle of the wilderness before I would ever live under an HOA.
@Smoking Joe If you want to live next to neighbors who aren't slobs and have good moral standards, then you don't need an HOA for that. There are already plenty of places where the property values alone prevent most undesirables from living there. You're more likely to live near good people if you live in Hilton Head Island, SC vs Compton, CA.
The problem with HOA's is that they're susceptible to corruption. If the rules are reasonable then that's one thing. But when a corrupt board president or other members get in, that's when you get these ridiculous rules that do nothing to make the community better but end up extorting money from the residents. Then you get bad publicity which makes people not want to live in those communities, thus driving down property values and defeating one of the main reasons the HOA was implemented to begin with.
As someone who values freedom & personal responsibility, I don't want to live under the thumb of narcissistic control freaks who can't mind their own business and try to extort money from me for petty reasons that ultimately don't hurt anyone. For me, that's an unacceptable level of intrusion that even living next to decent people can't justify.
@Smoking Joe HOAs usually abuse their power. That is never good. There are plenty of nice neighborhoods where the homes have high values and no HOA. You have to search for them but they are out there. If you buy into an HOA you are playing Russian roulette that someone will target you and make you miserable.
@@GenerationApollo Well said! We came to the exact same conclusion and have left HOAs forever after multiple experiences with covert narcissistic control freaks. 5 acres and an expensive home surrounded by expensive homes on acreage.... nobody screws with me and its beautiful
@Smoking Joe HOAs do more harm than good to home values. You can buy a nice home somewhere that is surrounded by nice homes and that have high home values and not have an HOA. You can buy a home in an HOA where they don't keep it up but still screw with people anyway. Your biggest investment/liability - you ought to control it.
I basically live in the wilderness, and experience with an HOA is one of the reasons for that choice.
Never buy a home in a HOA, NEVER
It's easy to know why, the booting company pays a kickback to the property manager.
Ever got your car towed from your own parking space just because you don’t didn’t renew your parking decal in time, but yet you are the owner of your residence? It makes no sense to me? The hoa is in it with the parking authority and the towing companies. Yet, they want to create harmony in the community. More like distrust is what they promote.
I had an old car in my garage that I was restoring. I frequently kept my garage open during the day as the garage was the primary way I entered and left the house. My county put a tow sticker on my car for not having it registered as I was restoring it IN my garage! So i just closed the garage. I waited for them to knock on my door and ask to open my garage so that they could tow my car. It never happened but I was waiting on it.
@@ebonimom6964 Private property, they had no right to be in your garage in the first place. Should file a complaint. I have two old cars I haven't registered for years ( I should be getting rid of them) sitting in my drive way. I have never gotten such a tow sticker before and I'm in California.
@@ebonimom6964 if they did that i was gonna work on it outdoors and cuss em out if they show up.
I once lived in an HOA neighborhood and found all the rules stifling and made damn sure my next house was not HOA. My experience is that HOAs have a lot of nosy busy-bodies who will report any infraction and you have no choice but to comply because when you bought or leased you agreed to the rules however unreasonable they may seem.
50 year old hall monitors🥵
I bet none of the boots are register with the mto/city as they should be and where is the visible serial number supposed to be written on the boot !!!
Imagine needing parking registration to park in your own driveway😂😂
Imagine buying a house in an hoa hood, then violating the rules of the hoa...not saying that the hoa actions are right, but you gotta look at it from all angles...if hoa is outta control, they are harassing people...and should be subject to legal action.
@@MoveoverAndbarkscrew that crap. HOAs should be downright illegal and abolished
@@godfather6942 I wouldn't stop people from forming a voluntary association with their own rules as long as you can leave without hassle. What should be illegal is the practice of forcing you to be in one because you buy a certain house.
There are Hoa's in the states that have rules that you cannot leave a car parked in the driveway in front of your own hatshepsut even if it's your own car
I owned a home in a non-HOA neighborhood and had a truck with lapsed registration. After 30 days, the city sent mail saying it was an eye sore and I had 30 days to move it from my driveway. It's not just HOA's.
Failed politician: Well, I lost. Now what?
Satan: There's an opening on the HOA board.
I'll never live in an HOA again....I would take my garbage can out on garbage day at 12 noon before I go to work, I worked 2pm to 12am, garbage man would pick up trash at 4pm, HOA would drive by at 8pm and see my trash can still out and fine me $25.
That exact thing happened to me!! My fine came in mailbox with picture of trash can in Street. Funny thing is . You could see all neighborhood cans still out in the street, in picture.
there is a special place in hell for these creatures
I would of just started dumping all of my trash on the members yards. You will never have to take a trash bin out to the curb.
@jrc3 I cannot lie. I totally would do it once I figured out where their cameras were, and im sure they will have them. Those would be my first target.
Then you should've moved into a different neighborhood from the start. You don't fit in. I'll be damn if I'm going to look at trash cans around the neighborhood all day. I pull my cans back in usually before 6am on trash days like everyone else in our area. Some people like really clean looking spaces others don't which is great- just buy a home elsewhere.
If more HOA would raise their prices close to the $1k month then we'd have less fiscally able people bitching because they'd do their homework before moving in and the riff raff would be fiscally unable to move in due to the HOA. Thankfully $ can still be used as a hedge against those most apt to be problem neighbors.
Never buy into an HOA. EVER!
That’s why I will never buy a home in an HOA they have some ridiculous rules! And I think they should be illegal!
Note to self, never buy a property with hoa. I’m not that nice.
I was thinking the same thing 😂😂😂
My friend's car got booted. he took it off with an angle grinder and took it home with him. the company started calling him trying to get it back.
I would be asking for a fee of 100 dollars.
Nice
They should have done this as the boot was on private property, thus it's now my property and I can destroy it if I want. If the car was on the road, different story, but it wasn't and the tow company can't even call it theft lol.
@@ZeroCool396 Make the fee higher.
@@jasondyrkacz8270 I will never join an HOA because they turn into scum buckets shortly after.HOA's need to be outlawed in all states.
My friend in high school had an HOA in their neighborhood. A neigbor asked the HOA to have my friend's family take down their pride flag because it was "too political". The issue was, the flag was INSIDE the house, hanging up my friend's BEDROOM, and wasn't particularly visible from the road. HOA called my friend's family about the flag, but their parents were less concerned with taking the flag down, and moreso wanted to know why their neighbors were looking into their child's bedroom.
Omg, now I've heard everything. Must be the HOA peeping Tom unit hard at work.
I dont see how they can legally boot someone's car, EVEN in with HOA, what if there is an emergency
Yes, I believe they are violating with "tampering with a vehicle" laws. Police who may boot your vehicle for unpaid fines may be the only ones who can legally do this.
This is why I'm afraid of moving into an HOA neighborhood, i seriously don't want to deal with stuff like this.
We just moved into our second new home in two years -- all due to two back to back bad HOAs. And I was the President of both. I asked not to be on both but they appointed me anyway so I tried to do right by the homeowners by making sure we did what was necessary properly. And not doing anything harmful to anyone. I was targeted by sociopaths on the two boards. I now live 40 minutes away on 5 acres in a brand new home. I drive longer but no one is screwing with me. I am free.
Yea it sucks I got fined for having to many cars in my driveway at night and the fine is 100 dollars and for each additional day is 100 it’s crazy
$50 bucks to a cutting torch operator will take care of those boots. And, the plus side is that the HOA gestapo won't be able to use them on anyone else's vehicles.
I have a Sawzall.....I won't pay for anything but blades.
After cutting them off return the to the property management office thru their windows.
I have a cordless angle grinder, perfect master key.
@@stevepettersen3283
Wait but it’s not a drive-thru... Oh
You can buy your own angle grinder for half of that at Harbor Freight. And, then you're ready for the next time, too.
the HOA board should be fired. nobody is going to tell me what I can and can not do on my own property. HOA or whoever.
Two words...
Angle....grinder.....
Throw the cut pieces through the windows of the property owners for good measure too
You're assuming that the bylaws allow ownership of power tools.
From some of the other stories out there, I wouldn't be surprised if some would foreclose on your home within hours of using an angle grinder.
@@TheAttacker732 HOAs do not have the power to foreclose. That's the bank's job.
@@protoborg You never own the home. To "buy", you generally have to sign documents that give the HOA the ability to foreclose on the property in case of nonpayment of dues or violations of bylaws.
Also, you may even have to finance through the HOA as part of the sales agreement, making them your bank in this case.
And all of that has been upheld in multiple states as perfectly fine & legal.
@@TheAttacker732 Citation needed.
HOAs are just a collection of the residents in that neighborhood. They have no legal power. They also have no power to enforce loans and such. So I highly doubt they have been granted those rights in court.
@@TheAttacker732 Further, YES YOU DO own your home in an HOA. The Home OWNERS Association is just that; a group of home owners in a community. I don't know what HOA you have ever been a part of but the very term shows how wrong you are. You are thinking of the group that runs a GATED community. There is a BIG difference.
HOA's need to stripped of their powers. The people on these HOA boards think they are the DICTATOR of the property owners.
The HOA board only has as much power as the Homeowners allow them to have, no more.
@@andrewalexander9492
Obviously you don't have a clue how power hungry boards, governments or bureaucracies operates. I'm talking reality not theory!
Shhhhh…dont tell anyone…the HOA has zero power over you if you don’t buy a house in their development. 🤷🏻♂️
@@ald8612 IKR? He acts as if all you have to do is show up and singlehandedly vote out all the HOA members, as if none of the residents there will vote the other way or shout you down if you speak out. Chances are any HOA neighborhood has been taken over by NPC sheep who actually enjoy being dominated and controlled and are triggered by the very notion of anyone wanting personal freedom.
@@briandfallon74 Now HERE'S somebody with actual common sense!!! 👏👏👏
Last time I got booted I was parked in a lot that I had permission to park in. I grabbed my work bag out of the trunk and picked the lock leaving the boot in the same spot I was parked in. Guess that part time job working for a locksmith after highschool came in handy.
you should have thrown the boot in the river and deny its existance, or ever having a boot.
Should have keep the boot, It was a gift
someone needs to invent the 'boot boot' a device you can place on a boot after removing it in a non destructive fashion that prevents it from being used again untill they pay you to remove it.
NEVER buy a house with an HOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Simple solution: Cut off the locks and offer to sell them back to the HOA.
Smart.
This drama is also why I will never belong to any kind of HOA.
I'll never understand why people want to live in HOAs under someone else's rules
Property value, road maintenance and other street utilities. Some places offer security. Real-estate benefits. Most hoa’s don’t have problems with the residents and vice-versa. You only hear of the bad cases on media, never good cases. And like with any place with more than 1 person, conflicts will happen.
HOAs own the shared land. Someone has to pay for the upkeep on the community swimming pool. Someone has to mow the lawn in the park. If you read the HOA rules before you buy the property and you can live with the restrictions, power to you. Even more if you go and run for office - I can almost guarantee you'll win, as I've watched several dozen elections where there were more open spots than there were people running, and never one where there were more people running than there were open spots.
@@dylanvan3300 Taxes pay for street maintenance and utilities. I know people who live in gated communities with security patrols that have had their houses broken into. "Property value" is subjective no matter what you or any realtor says. Lets hear some good stories? Because I'd bet it'll all be just common sense stuff that any sane person would have no problem with. Meanwhile, the bad stories are pointless, petty, tyrannical overreach. Instead of getting mad at your neighbor for having a flag hanging on his porch you don't like (or on the more extreme, has an unmowed yard with 2 dead cars in it). Maybe get mad at the system that punishes you by taking away your propertys value based on things that are out of your control. Chances are, if you can afford to live in a place with an HOA, then you can afford to move if you get to not liking it. Use your freedom instead of pissing on other people's.
@@jimdandy8119 "Taxes pay for street maintenance and utilities."
Depends on the roads and utilities. If they are privately owned roads then the residents are on the hook to pay for maintenance.
But I agree with you. To me HOA's are just local gangs that have gotten together to collectively micro-manage other people. Shaking down home owners for "maintenance fees".
Ours helps maintain the park and the entrance areas. They have also helped when the neighborhood next to us was being built and the contractor became overzealous with a chainsaw. Cut down several trees that were NOT on his property. HOA sued on behalf of the residents and he was fined.
Once that neighborhood was built, suddenly our neighborhood was a cut through from one major city road to another. They worked to improve speed limit postings, speed bumps in the worst spot, and occasional police monitoring when the perpetual speeders start getting out of hand again.
Not all HOA's are bad. Membership is not mandatory on our neighborhood.
Another reason most HOAs suck. There’s only a few that are worth it. The ones with a golf course, big clubhouse, 24/7 security, mowing your lawn and shoveling your snow, throws big block party’s etc. The ones that have nothing but homes, fees and rules are a waste of money
Sue the HOA for damages resulting from any inconvenience.
Mt parents moved into a subdivision with an HOA, the lady who was the president tormented the neighborhood with her Jackbooted rules and regulations , I'm not entirely sure how it came about but somehow my dad was able to get her position and with the majority of the council and neighborhood he shut down the HOA . To this date they still don't have an HOA in that neighborhood. I will never ever buy a home with an HOA .
Actually, that subdivision still has an HOA, as no one can just simply turn it off, not even by voting as they are regulated by the state... that subdivision is just mananged by a property management company or the state, who would have turned it over to a properly management company... A subdivision can not simply turn of their HOA... and being the HOA members elected to turn over their management over to the state, they still follow the same bylaws, restrictions and even pay their association dues they had before...
*But the story did sound good...*
@@mainid2490 what subdivision ? Are you speaking about the video? I'm sorry I'm confused by you statement .
@@jimmymckay73 - ops, sorry, maybe this will help...
*_Read Your initial comment. Then read My initial comment..._*
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@@mainid2490 so you making the statement about my parents hoa , that is what I thought initially. Washington state is not like that .
@@jimmymckay73 - wow, OK they got their HOA dissolved. So who or what took over the HOA assets? (storm water maintenance, electric bill for street lights, and common area maintenance) If they had any...
Hopefully the subdivision didn't have any common areas and it was easy for them to dissolve it. Good for him.
If That was my car, 1) I am taking the boots off. 2) I am putting up no trespassing signs.
You don’t understand what an HOA is then
@@christianh5826 I perfectly understand an HOA, the issue is they work for you. I have family members who have lived in areas with them and I can tell you they are absolute idiocy. The People who are in charge half the time are not capable of such a task of running such an organization. An HOA sounds good on paper but in reality it is a complete failure. The HOA My Grand Parents use to have put in a rule where the homeowners cannot sue the Hoa board. WTF Can of bs is this? This only happened they got sued 3 times in 7 years. Yet that is what they change, not the HOA Itself, it is pathetic. The HOA My Aunt and Uncle lived in was in a very rural area where everyone had roughly 10+ acres. My Aunt and Uncle had a motor home they wrecked and parked behind their shed for nearly 15 years. So long the tree line staring growing and hiding it from the main house. When my Uncle cut the trees down, tore the shed done, and towed the RV to his main drive way did his HOA Start complaining about it.
@@christianh5826 HOA's inspectors can not enter private property for enforcement. They can take picture from the sidewalk, but they can not legally be on private property, only community property or public property. I'm VP of my HOA specifically to protect homeowner's right. I was tired of unreasonable rules so I ran for VP and won.
@@aaronbritt2025 Depends on the HOA, but most of them do not allow 'no trespassing' signs and do allow HOA enforcers to enter private yards. If written in the contract they could enter your house at will, though I doubt many are written that way. It is a legal contract that the homeowner agrees to where nearly any right can be given away and all stipulations in the contract are fully enforceable in court. Congrats on VP and making the best of your situation. I am also in an HOA as all new developments around here have one, but thankfully it is currently inactive.
knurlgnar24 no they can’t idiot. They would be a major violation of your rights if I see any unwelcome person in my home they will be shot in self defense
Texas here (Hutto). I got a neighbor who was fined $317 b/c he left his dumpster outside, then he was fined another $317 b/c he did not cut his lawn. For my case I got a certified letter b/c my lawn was not cut low enough compared to my neighbor's lawn: keeping your lawn a little bit taller allows you not to water that much, that was the reason behind. I guess HOA is not eco-friendly at all :D So this year in retaliation against HOA I decided not to water my lawn anymore, this is my right and it's an unalienable right. I hate HOA.
I recently Xeriscaped under all my trees in front, saving water on hot Texas drought summers. Imagine if I had an HOA, they probably would have put me in front of a firing squad.......lol.
@@lisab.1595 I hate HOAs, we are going to be again a water restriction.
I rather live in a ghetto neighborhood than in an HOA.
Says the person who never been to the ghetto
Well technically I grew up in the ghetto. The city is practically labeled by the other people in other cities around as ghetto and dangerous. As hella ghetto as it is and all the crazy riots after cop killing a black man. It has diverse amount of food from around the world. Also the most dangerous ghetto neighborhood I grew up in is being gentrified. Which is good and bad. Nicer neighborhood, but hella homeless people.
To be fair if it's not in an HOA it prolly is a ghetto or has to potential to become one.
Another reason why I'll never live in a HOA
you already do if you pay property taxes or live in a city, cities have ordinances
@@carmineredd1198 Living in a city or county and paying taxes is normal. And unavoidable. Paying someone to abuse you on your own property is not.
@@donmulder8061 Only the people who don't naturally conform to the rules of the neighborhood have an issue. You don't have an issue if you keep your lawn meticulously without having to be told. You don't have an issue if you park your cars in the garage so the neighborhood maintains a clean look. You don't have an issue if you naturally don't have crappy looking plants, figurines, and other trailer-trashy looking junk in the front of the home. The HOA is to protect the responsible from the relative few.
@@likeawhispr Not exactly. The issue nowadays is that HOAs have been able to expand their powers to the point where they have near-absolute power over homeowners with little to no accountability. If we were talking about 10 to 20 clearly articulated covenants that were listed in the Declaration when you signed the purchase agreement then I would agree. But what is happening instead is now HOA's have very vague covenants that leave too much open to interpretation and the board of directors is given carte blanch to adopt rules and regulations to expound on them as they see fit. That is how you get a situation where someone who buys a single family home with 4 indoor cats being told 18 months later that the board has decided that three house pets is the limit and you now have to get rid of an indoor cat when it has no bearing on others (I saw this first hand and it was personal retribution). Insanity. This is your home. No neighbor should have that much power over you. People are starting to wake up. This is not like you make it sound. I have been an HOA board President multiple times and have served on non-HOA Boards as well so I know what I am talking about. You sound like one of the tyrants who abuse people frankly.
@@donmulder8061 It is exactly like I'm making it sound most of the time. There are always ludicrous exceptions but in most cases it's the homeowner that's breaking reasonable rules and then complaining because they think it's petty. Most of this HOA stuff happens in the cheaper neighborhoods. You don't have such crap going on as much in other areas, mostly because the types of people who have to be told to keep up their home don't have to be told the obvious.
If you pay a 1,500mo fee, you have less issue than someone paying a$75 fee. Seriously, we both know the general difference between the two HOA's and the people who run them / live in those areas.
To the Sterling Place HOA: Did it not occur to you to ask the woman in this video if she actually moved into her parents house and went on vacation before you booted her car?
All Homeowners Associations should be illegal throughout the USA.
Imagine an HOA in the south doing something like this, people are gonna end up shot.
FACTS! lol That's why they sneak and put those lil fines in the mail or whatnot because they know better.
Lol I live in South Mississippi. They do. Stuff like 2 car driveways and no one can park on the street. What? You want to have your family over for xyz event/holiday? Pay up sucka! I had an uncle who bought a new house for 4x what the one he was living in under the HOA was worth just so he didn't have to move to another area to get out from underneath them. There are spinless suckers in every state.
But they do do that in the south.
The south? This story is in Florida! You can’t get any more south. 🤦🏽♀️
Some of the worst are in TX; I remember the show 20/20 do a story on TX HOAs specifically, but HOAs in general.
If it's on my property, it's now my boot. Thanks for the scrap metal 😁
why, why?! would anyone move into an area with an HOA? it is just a dumb thing to do.
Zero chance I'd ever buy a house in HoA. Only for fools
Imagine having family come home for a month after college and some Karen's running the HOA is like no fam you gotta go
I bought a home 22 years ago and immediately I started getting HOA violation notices in my mailbox. Long story short. I still own the home and within 3 years of buying it, I had gotten rid of the HOA.
Please do elaborate can an hoa be dissolved or are you saying the just stopped bothering you because I thought they exist as long as the development does
@@dans864 it involved petition and Court
@@outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078 please go on, you have me in tenterhooks
Did you kill them all???? Explain how you got rid of the HOA...
You sir are a hero
Why would anyone subject themselves to HOAs?
rite...awful...a guy i know his wife was planting flowers n they got cited bec she planting the wrong flowers. only 4 types of flowers approved. they moved
READ THE HOA BYLAWS. She had her car booted because the Bylaws do not allow cars parked over a certain number of days. Many Hoa's also require no street parking due to street cleaning. If you do not want to follow rules DO NOT PURCHASE OR RENT A HOME IN AN HOA GOVERNED SUBDIVISION ! ! !
Property management never answers the phone when a lawyer calls.
The property management never answers when the homeowners call either. Not sure what they do all day.
@@Sdewebb Probably watching paint dry, maybe they find it extremely interesting.
They've decided their job is turning coffee into piss. No worries, registered letters from lawyers always get through
@@Currumpaw Not just watching paint dry, but watching the paint on other people's houses thinking of reasons to fine them for it.
People like this have absolutely no morals or spine, and fold like a lawn chair when anyone has the guts to call them out.
Lesson learned, NEVER EVER buy property subject to an HOA. PERIOD!!
The problem is finding non HOA properties. The developers set them up when to scam more money out of residents. I guess it'd have to be an older neighborhood which will probably be much more expensive.
@@jamesmartin9401it’s apparently a problem in big cities. In small town America, hoa’s are basically nonexistent.
@@jamesmartin9401 I lived in a neighborhood in SW Portland that had an HOA. My house was built in 1977 but the HOA was established in 1965. To this day, that entire neighborhood is pristine and I owe it to the HOA Bylaw enforcement. It's the property "Plats" that are HOA governed, and those homes within the "Plats" not the individual homes.
Just have someone cut the boots off. Then sue the HOA. They trespassed to install the boots.
Yet ANOTHER reason WHY you don't live or move to where there is a Homeowners Association. You couldn't give me a house where there is one.
My SRT was booted once in my driveway. HOA damaged the rim in the process. I made one phone call. I told them I would get an attorney. In which I did and my attorney got them to pay for the rim. Once that was all taken care of I called HOA back. And reminded them that I pay for my house and my property. And if HOA comes on my property again that they’d either be leaving in handcuffs or a body bag for trespassing. Never had more do I have problems anymore
SOLUTION: angle grinder = no more boot
I use a torch . . . clamps don't hold much when they're liquid . . .
Excellent advice
MainID it was tried in a court in NJ. Illegal booting is a crime there and the company responsible has no expectation that their boot will be returned without damage. There are numerous You Tube videos on how to open a boot with common tools. I would not admit to destroying one of these boots nor would I record the event. I doubt that any jury would convict a person who removed a boot from their car.
@MainID The booting company had a contract to carry out an ILLEGAL activity. What the booting company did is still illegal. It has also been established that HOA bylaws do NOT trump state and federal laws. State law says it is illegal to boot private vehicles on private property.
MainID I guess you own a booting company. There are far more shake down artists and simple thieves booting people than those who practice this despicable art than there are legitimate operators. Being held by force was against your will is a crime. Those who aid and abetted such illegal detention are also criminals. Boots can be removed by destructive methods. They are also easy to open by non destructive methods . Search You Tube for the instructions on how to open and remove a boot. Booting will end when lawsuits make it too expensive to insure a booting operation. That day can not come too soon.
If this happened to me I'd open my garage, get out the jack, lift up the car, cut the boots off, and then throw the boots through the windows on the HOA owners car
Interesting profile pic
Why would anybody live in HOA neighborhood in the first place, its your house !
I would have cut the boots off my car and hired an attorney to sue the absolute piss out of the hoa just so they got the point that guess what they also have rules to go by
Never buy property in an HOA! If you do your basically paying full price to rent your own property.
I have said it before, my parents got harassed on the daily from their HOA. I would stay away at all cost.
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