one thing i forgot to mention here is if you highlight a chord on the piano roll then shift+click a chord button, it will make a user chord based on these notes. currently the user chords won't save if you close+reopen the device, but i'm working on adding this in.
Thank you!! I have a feeling Stacks might make more sense for those with an advanced understanding of theory but mine is pretty basic honestly. it's kind of why i made this, but also just because it felt like something Live was always missing.
@@MGFaudio Your correct. I have a basic understanding of it but I like seeing the names of chords and knowing what I’m clicking on. Stacks took me a minute to grasp and I feel most people won’t embrace it because it’s sooo confusing at first.
Great work!! A cool feature would be to be able to drop a voice down an octave, ie drop 2, drop 3. Like a C major7 would be spelled from the bottom G C E B as drop2, E C G B as drop 3. Thanks!
Holy Cow! Will you be making this for Logic Pro, also? Really like it. Would definitely be a good money maker for you. Would also be helpful to see the notes of each chord (as well as the numbers) and possibly highlight chords that would work with (or naturally follow) the previously selected chord(s).
Because I made this in Max it's Ableton-specific, so no Logic or VST version planned. I would love for it to have more "intelligent" awareness of chords and scales to the point where it can suggest them so that's definitely something i'm looking at. also having the note names as you suggested instead of the intervals could work as an alternative view and I'll consider this, but people will need to be aware that the final notes will always be relative to the selected/input notes, rather than absolute. if i made it so you could explicitly place a G#Major7 without any input notes it would become more of a Generate device...so maybe I should make a spin-off device instead. overall great feedback and really helpful for when i'm thinking about how to improve and expand chord palette. thank you very much!
this might be a very difficult feature request, but i would love a chord generator that would help to use modal interchange in their music in a theory-driven way, e.g. identifying opportunities to move out of scale and back again in that jazzy way we all love.
hey I think I get what you mean. my knowledge of theory is kinda middling, i know a bit but not enough to pull this off properly i reckon. but it's given me some thoughts about some features i can add that make working with scales easier.
Nice! Can you make so if you strum the end of the notes remain fixed (as if all notes in the chord started from the start of the beat)? The use case is,say I want strummed chords changing on every bar. As it works now, the end notes of the first bar will overlap with the start notes on the second bar -- whereas I just wanted the strum to apply to the notes start, not their end.
hey yeah actually i think what you've described makes more sense from a musical perspective, so i reckon that's how it should work by default. it's a very easy change for me to make as well. thanks for the suggestion and look out for it in an update.
Really appreciate your work here. So much more useful than the stacks device. It would kind of be nice to be able to select a key within the device (Ableton scale quantize off) and then have the chords labeled by function, eg IVm7, bVII#11, etc. Or one column for the basic chord (by function) and another to tick individual extensions. Idk, what do you think?
hey, thanks for the suggestion! i think I'm following you, i would probably make this a separate device or try and build this on top of the existing functionality.
@@MGFaudioYeah that makes the most sense probably. Just thinking that in general if you’re writing a progression you’re thinking more in terms of trying out chords by their functions /Roman numerals (ie. “Hm what would a minor flat VI chord sound like here?”). And then you don’t have to do that extra step in your head of translating to whatever key you’re in. And I think having the extensions (9, #9, 11, #11, etc) as a separate column of choices would maybe be quicker than a single list of all possible chords (with their extensions already included).
@@herschoolcolorsthanks, you've given me a lot to think about here. i'm not very savvy with theory and i think this is reflected in the design of Chord Palette. but i'm teaching myself more and more, so comments like this are helpful to get an idea of how people with more advanced knowledge would approach a plugin like this.
@@MGFaudioAppreciate you listening! I’m not skilled enough that I wouldn’t benefit from a device like this hahah. Really I just know enough to get beyond the stage of having to just randomly choose something and then listen to see if it works (it usually doesn’t in my experience). The random guess-and-check method just takes way too long imo. Happy to give any additional input if you want it. Thanks for all your hard work so far!!!
hey thanks, i agree and would like to do this. currently there's no way to send midi out of the Transform devices into an instrument without the use of a separate MIDI device. so what i could do is send the preview notes into the Chord Palette Link device instead?
@@MGFaudio yeah when I click on view content it just keeps sending me to the same page. And the one download I did get my Mac won’t let me download it cause it says it has a virus on it. What email can I contact you on
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this is something that should have been built in.. i can't believe ableton add all these wacky devices but forget simple ideas like this.. great work!
Ableton 12 sort of has something like this. Search ableton 12 stacks.
Thats why we have Max for Live!
one thing i forgot to mention here is if you highlight a chord on the piano roll then shift+click a chord button, it will make a user chord based on these notes. currently the user chords won't save if you close+reopen the device, but i'm working on adding this in.
I subscribed. This is huge. Was looking for something like this because FL Studio has it by default. Cheers.
Yeah this is a gold mine 🔥🔥🔥🔥
thank you very much 🙏
This is unbelievable, great job
Great job!!! It’s a great project and it definitely is better than the weird dots thing Ableton used.
Thank you!! I have a feeling Stacks might make more sense for those with an advanced understanding of theory but mine is pretty basic honestly. it's kind of why i made this, but also just because it felt like something Live was always missing.
@@MGFaudio Your correct. I have a basic understanding of it but I like seeing the names of chords and knowing what I’m clicking on. Stacks took me a minute to grasp and I feel most people won’t embrace it because it’s sooo confusing at first.
Love it! Really cool device
So useful. Great work!
Great job! Some how, it reminds me the Cthulu plug in. It could be nice to create also, arp's. Thanks!
Nice. Thank you! In scale mode when a note is duplicated it could snap to the next nearest scale degree? Would make for happy accidents
bro thank you holy shit
Great work!! A cool feature would be to be able to drop a voice down an octave, ie drop 2, drop 3. Like a C major7 would be spelled from the bottom G C E B as drop2, E C G B as drop 3. Thanks!
Hey there, try the Inv control, i reckon it will do what you want. Let me know if I'm missing anything
The inversion moves the block chord up or down, this would take an inner voice and move it down an octave
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This is great! It would be very cool if it could auto populate chord progression (ex. 2,5,1). It’ll save many steps
Yep this is a planned feature already, should be pretty easy to add in. stay tuned!
@@MGFaudio looking forward to it!
thank you so much
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Holy Cow! Will you be making this for Logic Pro, also? Really like it. Would definitely be a good money maker for you.
Would also be helpful to see the notes of each chord (as well as the numbers) and possibly highlight chords that would work with (or naturally follow) the previously selected chord(s).
Because I made this in Max it's Ableton-specific, so no Logic or VST version planned.
I would love for it to have more "intelligent" awareness of chords and scales to the point where it can suggest them so that's definitely something i'm looking at.
also having the note names as you suggested instead of the intervals could work as an alternative view and I'll consider this, but people will need to be aware that the final notes will always be relative to the selected/input notes, rather than absolute. if i made it so you could explicitly place a G#Major7 without any input notes it would become more of a Generate device...so maybe I should make a spin-off device instead.
overall great feedback and really helpful for when i'm thinking about how to improve and expand chord palette. thank you very much!
this might be a very difficult feature request, but i would love a chord generator that would help to use modal interchange in their music in a theory-driven way, e.g. identifying opportunities to move out of scale and back again in that jazzy way we all love.
hey I think I get what you mean. my knowledge of theory is kinda middling, i know a bit but not enough to pull this off properly i reckon. but it's given me some thoughts about some features i can add that make working with scales easier.
Thank you so much!!! Is there any way to preview the Chords? Or how do you put a progression together? All the best!
great!
Nice! Can you make so if you strum the end of the notes remain fixed (as if all notes in the chord started from the start of the beat)? The use case is,say I want strummed chords changing on every bar. As it works now, the end notes of the first bar will overlap with the start notes on the second bar -- whereas I just wanted the strum to apply to the notes start, not their end.
hey yeah actually i think what you've described makes more sense from a musical perspective, so i reckon that's how it should work by default. it's a very easy change for me to make as well. thanks for the suggestion and look out for it in an update.
Really appreciate your work here. So much more useful than the stacks device. It would kind of be nice to be able to select a key within the device (Ableton scale quantize off) and then have the chords labeled by function, eg IVm7, bVII#11, etc. Or one column for the basic chord (by function) and another to tick individual extensions. Idk, what do you think?
hey, thanks for the suggestion! i think I'm following you, i would probably make this a separate device or try and build this on top of the existing functionality.
@@MGFaudioYeah that makes the most sense probably. Just thinking that in general if you’re writing a progression you’re thinking more in terms of trying out chords by their functions /Roman numerals (ie. “Hm what would a minor flat VI chord sound like here?”). And then you don’t have to do that extra step in your head of translating to whatever key you’re in. And I think having the extensions (9, #9, 11, #11, etc) as a separate column of choices would maybe be quicker than a single list of all possible chords (with their extensions already included).
@@herschoolcolorsthanks, you've given me a lot to think about here. i'm not very savvy with theory and i think this is reflected in the design of Chord Palette. but i'm teaching myself more and more, so comments like this are helpful to get an idea of how people with more advanced knowledge would approach a plugin like this.
@@MGFaudioAppreciate you listening! I’m not skilled enough that I wouldn’t benefit from a device like this hahah. Really I just know enough to get beyond the stage of having to just randomly choose something and then listen to see if it works (it usually doesn’t in my experience). The random guess-and-check method just takes way too long imo. Happy to give any additional input if you want it. Thanks for all your hard work so far!!!
this is great, but we still need a way to audition chords without printing them first.
hey thanks, i agree and would like to do this. currently there's no way to send midi out of the Transform devices into an instrument without the use of a separate MIDI device. so what i could do is send the preview notes into the Chord Palette Link device instead?
@@MGFaudio yeah. similar to something like chordimist, which is a M4L device im sure you've heard of.
do i need ableton live 12 for this?
yep these type of devices are new in Live 12!
Does it work with push 3?
hey I'm really not sure but I expect this to happen at some point.
WOULD THIS WORK WITH ABLETON 11
Nah this is using a new feature in Live 12
Every time I try to download this device it keeps sending me to the email page and I don’t get the download link
hey mate, in the email there should be a button that says View Content, if that's still not working send me an email and i'll sort it out.
@@MGFaudio yeah when I click on view content it just keeps sending me to the same page. And the one download I did get my Mac won’t let me download it cause it says it has a virus on it. What email can I contact you on
I have ableton 12 and I have max for live there but I don't have chord palette, can someone please help me I'm too stupid to find it myself apparently
check the description for this vid ;) it's not a stock device unfortunately.
This doesn't work with Live 11 right?
yeah sorry, this is a new feature for live 12. the upgrade is defs worth it imo!
Brilliant , im pretty good with chords but I have so many more to explore an have fun with .. liked and subscribed, good work man !