Will Indonesia Join the U.S or China?
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Indonesia has grown larger and more powerful since the end of the cold war, quietly becoming the biggest Economy in Southeast Asia and the fourth most populous country in the world. They have a massive military of 400,000 personnel as of 2023, the same year that they approved a 20% increase to their defense spending. Physically connecting the Indian and Pacific Ocean is the nation of Indonesia where 60% of the worlds maritime trade passes through this region. Indonesia is a major part of the 10 member Association of SouthEast Asian Nations or (AH-see-ahn) ASEAN. When combined as a whole, they rank as the fifth-largest economy with a combined population of 662 million people and a GDP of 10 trillion or 6.5% of the global GDP. They’re kind of a big deal. For context NATO has about 900 million people under their security umbrella.
So now it’s becoming more clear why both the United States and China are investing Billions of dollars competing for Indonesia's affection trying to win them over as an ally and a bestie. But We’ll see how Indonesia’s foreign policy of aggressive neutrality might be one of the biggest factors preventing war between the US and China right now. The non aligned policy of a country halfway around the world from you might prevent armageddon. How does Indonesia’s unique history explain this stance? What are the reasons Indonesia is suspicious of any potential U.S or Chinese alliance? And why are they paradoxically speeding up their military’s modernization efforts?
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20:10 That vessel is not a frigate, but rather a marine fisheries patrol ship.
Love you dog
Indonesia just wants economic development, Donkey!
I was surprised you didn't talk about Indonesia and West Papua considering the journalism FriendlyJordies had already done on it
If Indonesia is smart they will study how Turkey balances competing sides, if Turkey is smart it will study how Indonesia runs its economy.
Yes, and to not repeat the same mistake 😂
Indonesia is a neutral country
turkey is a dictatorship which no one will invest.
Indonesia is far cleverer. Beside that, I visited Indonesia, Malaysia and Philippine, all beautiful countries and lovely people.Indonesia needs to be strong to remain independent. ❤from Italian married with a Philippine. Hope the ASEAN will growth in peace..
@@Ezekiel903
Unfortunately... Marcos Jr is under duress by the U$ .
Marcos family asset are in danger .
About the Indonesia proverbs...
"Rice has turned into porridge" means something important has happened and it's irreversible.
"There's prawn hiding behind rock" means there's ulterior motive behind sweet words and gifts
"Tigers die because of their stripes" I actually haven't heard of this one. The closest one I think is "when elephant dies, it leaves tusk, when tiger dies, it leaves stripes", which means when one leaves, retires, or passes away, they would be remembered by their past achievements.
Tigers die(hunted) for their stripes in this case Indonesia's strategic position really attracted both sides
All correct
I thought about putting what their meanings are but figured that might be too much so I really appreciate the details here
Harimau mati karena belangnya.
Celaka karena sombong/pamer kelebihan.
Cek aja di internet: kumpulan peribahasa
I think it's from “harimau mati karena belangnya” which is a direct translation from “tigers die because of their stripes” it means when you display your abilities or strength, it can result in being pursued or targeted
Indonesia will never take sides because the basis of politics in Indonesia is free and active politics
Thank you for making this video!
a commentary about Indonesia sprinkled with Indonesian proverbs, a surefire way to attract Indonesian like me
Took me a second to realise those proverbs being translated bulat bulat lmao
Actually it was translated as it should be and not being reinterpretated, I respect that. Those proverbs doesn't lose it's meaning being translated as is and easily understandable to those who are not familiar with it.
I feel like my nationalistic indonesian self is slowly fading away cause i only know a couple of those proverbs and not know the others even in my own native language
Malaysian here.
We use the same exact proverb.
Salam serumpun saudaraku 👍
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As an Indonesian I admit that I’ve been worried about this for a while. I just hope we won’t engage in any war, because it’s not worth it.
nah, eventually you will join the west, reasons are, 1. i dont know why but indonesias really hates chinese, 2. i dont know why but indonesians really like americans.
No matter how corrupt our politician is, I think no one of them would wanted to have any war with other nation. Stay neutral & playing diplomacy proven to be best Indonesian foreign policy since round-table conference in 1949.
Yes i hope indonesias have magic wand that can lead world peace without any nuclear whatsoever
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@@sellysww we live in peace, growth independent and neutral, helping country who needs help. we don't need a nuclear, helping each others and bringings peace all arounds the worlds is our defense .
well researched and made video
should have put the meaning behind the proverbs. btw subscriber from Malaysia. great content
Aussie here. As a traveller and many years ago ADF reserve, theres no ill will towards Indonesia. Love my indo mates and cant wait to get back there for my next visit. Wonderful people with a great sense of humour. Im actually embarrassed by the way my own countrymen act in Bali, so I steer clear of Bali.
Indonesia + Philippines + Vietnam number 1/2 a billion people. Even a ripple of a skirmish in the South China Sea will send millions & millions island hopping down to Darwin to escape.
@@machismo4256 they will behave themselves better than the native population in Darwin.
@@JETFOURLITREI hope that the relationship between Australia and Indonesia will become closer, and that Australia will also become our important partner. 😊
@@boss2280 it's only our stupid politicians that mess everything up. There's plenty of warmth between our people.
Balinese are chill bro, you can go there without being ashamed as long as you don't become like your countrymen who are trouble maker, Balinese are at the top of tolerance level in Indonesia and tolerance is kind of rare here. "If you want to see what tolerance look like and actually feel it, go to Bali" -Most Indonesians that has ever been to Bali.
Sebagai Bule tinggal di Indonesia aku senang dengan penjelaskanmu tentang sejarah dan politik modern. Sebelum Aku Pindah ke Indonesia aku melayan di tentara AS. Masalah terbasar untuk orang di sini dengan AS termasuk perang antara Israel/Palestina. Orang di sini boikot produk AS karena, “tidak mau dukung Israel”. Pemerintah kami harus berhati hati dengan langkah2 Kami di masa depan
Indonesian here, we don't boycott every American product, only those that supports the Zionists, in any form.
@Riski-sz7oddua dua nya
Betul sekali kami tidak memusuhi rakyat Amerika tapi pemerintah Amerika kami orang Indonesia akan melakukan apapun demi membela Palestina
masih banyak orang salah paham kami indonesia mendukung palestina karena agama, padahal kami dukung palestina karena kami merasakan empati sebagai bangsa yang pernah dijajah juga
😂 tenang saja kami sudah bisa membedakan mana pemerintah USA dan mana rakyat USA. Kita tidak membenci rakyat USA tetapi kami mengutuk tindakan pemerintah USA yang selalu mengorbankan perang di seluruh dunia dan menjadi pelayan bangsa zionis yahudi baik di dalam dan luar negeri 😂
this video is enjoyable and well presented sir. Beautiful work!!
3:57 thank you for using this version of painting of Penangkapan Pangeran Diponegoro or the english title is The Arest of Pangeran Diponegoro (it was painted by Raden Saleh, Indonesian painter) because dutch painter, Nicolaas Pieneman painting of Penyerahan Pangeran Diponegoro or the English title is The Submission of Prince Dipo Negoro to General De Kock, is more famous and widely use. Just little appreciation 🎉
And fun fact, even if these two painting painted the same scene but you can cleary see the perspective from Indonesian people and the dutch from that painting. For example, the title, in Indonesian perspective Pangeran Diponegoro was arrested by the Dtuch, we can see in the painting that Pangeran Diponegoro looks more brave, but in Dutch painting, it's a submissions, the way they paint Pangeran Diponegoro is look like he accept his fate to be submitted by the Dutch. There's still a lot of fun detail you can look for!
We indonesians have this belief system saying "having 1000 friends is too few, having one enemy is too many" and it's taught almost in every household in indonesia 🇮🇩
I guess it's well represented in our foreign affairs strategy.
Indeed, I truly hope Indonesia is staying neutral, nothing good comes from war, besides we as indonesian already have a mountain of problems in our country, we don't need another headache 😂
Wish I had included that in the video , very interesting aspect
Free west papua then.
That is a great saying!!!
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That’s a great philosophy. As an Australian, we followed that and mostly lived pretty care free.
We have relied quite a lot on the US for our security and have essentially been kind of obliged to help support military operations, some of which have turned out to be misguided to say the least.
Most Australians are very friendly and respectful (sorry for some of us who are drunk jackasses in Bali).
Generally from individual people up to national level we try to uphold fairness and respect for others. Over the last two decades we have sometimes got involved in things I think we should have stayed out of and apart from the damage of war, It’s also made our friends with everyone idea a little harder. We have had a mostly very beneficial relationship with China. However, they have been trying to dominant us covertly and overtly for a long time. We had to stand up for ourselves and Its cost us, but I think it was worth it. I hope Indonesia can stand shoulder to shoulder as friends who support each other when needed. Vietnam is in a similar situation to Indonesia. We count Vietnam as friends too. Not every country needs to be publicly aligned with China or the US but if we stand up for ourselves when bullied it’s better for all of us. It disappoints me when the US doesn’t always uphold the fairness and justice for all that it claims. We are mostly aligned with them but they are a bully too. If I have to choose the US bully or the CCP, I’ll take the US any day. China is seeking world dominance and I don’t think that will be fun for anyone. Most Australians don’t want to spend hundreds of billions on defence, but China has shown what they think of us “Australia is chewing gum on China’s shoe”. It’s a shame, the Chinese I know are mostly very nice and hard working people. No counties really want to get pulled into conflict with the US and China, but being defenceless it’s a great option either. Best wishes and respect from Australia. 🇮🇩🇦🇺 ✊
thats the danish flag not the dutch 4:28
fkn hilarious 😂😂😂😂
lol.
Ha, classic Last Week Tonight move.
😂 bruh, Americans be like, Danish? Dutch it's all the same.
Smartest man in the US army
Your analysis and research on Indonesia foreign policies and its ties to our history is spot on. This is a very well researched content.
I know this video is about quasi cold war 2.0 between the US and China. But I as an Indonesian personally think u can add more context in our relationship with another key player in worlds geopolitics which is the Middle East region. In which we have a very good relationship and many of our leaders have become some sort of mediator between arab states. Our relations with Middle East region alongside ASEAN and also our neutrality with US and China makes Indonesia a very strategic component in world balance.
Nice Video, cheers from Indonesia!
True, as an Indonesian i learn a lot from this video youtube... lol
As an Indonesian I cant help but raise the issue that our media revolves around anti US and pro China & Russia rhetoric.
Indonesians in general DO NOT KNOW how to verify propaganda when being told hold evil USA & Japan is without wanting to even understand how many of our politicians are already deep in the pockets of the CCP!!!
@@shadowmod3 this CIA shill is full of shit, he didn’t even speak Indonesian correctly in his last comment, his comment sound robotic and lacking in transition and grammar. Judging by his name, you can tell this is the type of person who goes every video related to China and say “ As an @insert country name” CCP is bad”
Only ignorant Indonesian, who doesn't know & won't study history finds this video spot on or even well-researched. As ignorant as this American military imperialist & propagandist.
nice to watch it👍
Damn, Indonesia is in the position to play kingmaker and make tons of money right now, hopefully they take advantage of it and don't squander this once in a century opportunity
Bad news, we are just bunch of Idiots pretending as a nation
Yeah, many of us saw our potential as well. Problem is, not many of us know what to do with it. We're not even sure how long we could last on an open conflict with somethinv as huge as China in case they want to claim our northern island again..
this is the 2nd opportunity in the last 100 years. I still read how Soekarno got the latest soviet submarine for free. and at the same time, he also got a nuclear core for a reactor from the US
Imagine they stumbled hard lmao, but real tho their "Neutral stance" is not helping tensions between the west and china
Thats what alot of countries are doing right now.
Indonesia is like Singapore , they ride both sides of the fence and deal from both sides
Indonesia should stick with it's neighbors and strengthen ASEAN. It's already the 2nd most important and successful regional bloc in the world.
If ASEAN coalesce more they could have influence on the international stage even great powers have trouble contending.
but singapore got the imperial money and war criminal money from wwii and prior
Some of us indonesians, sometimes jokingly said that singapore are one of indonesia provinces. Hell its very easy to go to and getting from the city state (2 hours flight from jakarta) and believe it or not, there is no major diplomatic rifts between indo and sg for past 40 years. Sg also consistently among the largest investor in indonesia for the past 20 years.
@@AIKalangie a. Singapore, the smallest country in the world, is like the city of Batam in the Riau Islands, Indonesia, near Singapore, only 15 minutes away
@@monkeydog8681 Indonesia is de-facto leader of ASEAN. I think so far Msia, SG and Thailand is happy with the arrangement. I dont remember we ever argue
INDONESIA LOVE'S PEACE 🙏🏻🇮🇩🕊️
Indonesia, do not be like us in the Philippines, still in the claws of USA. Indonesia has a good economy I know they can be independent of USA.
Lmao independent from what? From anti-China alliance?
Hopefully Indonesia will always be neutral, cooperating with all countries. And what is more important is for the progress, security and stability of ASEAN
Saya kira yes,,,Filipina harus berdikari mandiri tidak harus apa dan apa amerika
Hopefully yeah, but who knows
@@beardeddog8215 but I think your leaders and politicians there in Indonesia are better.
The spice must flow
Toilet destroyed
Shouldn't they all have blue eyes by now 😂
Controll the Spice, Controll the Universe!
most of the indos (half dutch-indonesian) had been killed in a term called " masa bersiap "anyone that is European/looks european got killed or went to dutch for safety. Humans in the past are real savages@@sashautrera6935
Heh, so you finally can eat your chili nowaday kids?
Context: Indonesians kids and Yogyakartans cannot eat spicy food.
As an Indonesian who studied International Relationships, I still remember that an instructor of mine back in uni have stated, "In 10 years, more or less. There's a 'very high' chance that a war will start, with Indonesia as the center of the conflict" It was around 2016-17 then. Similar statements have been said by other instructors with more detailed and different reasoning, spanning from economic, military, and even cultural reasons. They also have similar opinions that the main 'Actors' in the conflict would be US and China. Interestingly, they have different opinions on whose side Indonesia would be when such major conflict happens. Some even believe that Indonesia would still choose to remain neutral, practically donning the status of a 'Swing State' throughout the escalating conflict.
All in all, their statements boil down to a single fact, "Indonesia is a hot potato" This is despite a well-known fact that Indonesia isn't 'that' well-known by the global populations. It's actually funny how most people outside of Indonesia that I've met or talked to, either only know about Bali as a vacation spot or didn't know about Indonesia at all besides, "It's a country". So I'm very thankful for the video as it gives more awareness towards Indonesia.
This actually very deep analysis. Well served!
Me as malaysian trust on indonesia foreign policy.. what good to indonesia is also good for the rest of asean..
Yeah but the government of Malaysia seems not trustworthy, even for their people. They're still in the pocket of the rulers of the Commonwealth. I think you guys need to abandon monarchy asap, it's outdated and becomes a burden
Insha allah❤
asean should align themselves with china.
@@lainmahashima8211lol, that's cute
@@lainmahashima8211 IM afraid what chine gonna do if they have Asean on his hand!!
im glad to see my flag( Dannebrog) represent holland
Holland isn't even a country
@@drpepper3838 Netherland, but Holland world to
Denmark, Holland, to this American they are all the same. Just kidding 🤣
"Dutch, Danish, tomato, tomato,"
- Task & Purpose (2024). Probably.
I mean they are the same size @@hypergraphic
One of your best videos to date. I have a long extensive experience in that region and I think you're spot on with your comments. That delicate balance of power with Indonesia will be a key factor in future conflicts in that region.
Big salute to you maam!!! From the philippines 🇵🇭..
I'm Indonesian, I Love all people.. from our Neighbour, USA, Russia, Europe, Middle East also China. I'm sad saw the world today.. to many bloodshed, bicause of dirty politician and evil firm 😢😢
Yeah indeed, sadly China does not want to play nice and keeps trying to take the West down.
That's why the West is looking for friends in South Asia.
As a Dutch person myself I truly hope that Indonesia choses to side with the West so we can put our past behind us and work together as equals :)
@@teaser6089
Why the owner of the channel didnt tell how US army had bombed Maluku's market and Soekarno's several assasination attempt by CIA? The pointed and the bestfriend of the US figure, Soeharto even now is called dictator by the westerner? Serious? Just like what they did to Saddam Hussein who they gave info to invade Iran back in 1980's and in the end Saddam is called a dictator?
The owner didnt tell the US gave Indonesia weapon supply to Soeharto motives were to invade Timor Leste, and in 2000 the US themselves called the invasion is illegal 😂
Back in 1998 south east asia financial crisis, it was your people George Soros who made South East Asian countries economy collapses by buying a huge sum of dollars and now you act like your country had never involved in any of these!
You can call me a whistleblower, I'm not afraid the bully of your government. Bang on my door, come on the neo colonializer! I dare you to. World and my people should know the ugliest fact and truth about the works of your foreign policy.
The owner of the channel said that is it better for the US to use military power to force world peaceful meaning that is it better for the US to use military power to force people across the world outside of Europe to be uneducated so they can still rule over them.
So just use it with your false provocation like your country did to Iraq and you dont have to apologize if two millions of iraqis died for some filth scheming made by your own too although you said your nation are valueing the humanity and freedom very high above other nation right? Of course you can nuke every countries that against neo colonialism and so in the end your people can live in the barrren world just by themselves too. Why you dont dare to do that?
We dont want to be like Afghanistan which said by the western media has received 30 trillion usd aid but left with no modern infrastructure build only a very huge stash of weapons that made them familiar with weaponary and now had embodied in those afghani cultures. They will shot weapon to the air on every wedding and that isnt their ancient original culture 🤮
China with only 4,9 trillions USD have their railroad, street connected all across their country, new modern airports, new modern hub ports. Now you and the owner of the channel use your logical to say how could 30 trillions and 5 trillions usd could change a country very different? Is those 30 trillions usd is stolen?
We want to embrace our economy not ruining our peaceful culture like your country did to Afghanistan.
Be careful of their propaganda, they're not good my fellow indonesian brother.
Eh kok gw jd ngomong inggris? Bruakakakakak..
Bangun dan buka mata lo, jangan mau deket ma mereka dan jgn terlalu percaya juga ke tiongkok.
Gw siap kok jd whistleblower karena gw dh riset banyak banget waktu covid 19, anjay jahatnya tu pemerintah mereka ke pemerintah kita.
Komen gw dihapus, takut tuh admin channelnya ketahuan boroknya aktivitas ilegal pemerintahan mereka... Bruakakakakakak... Takut ya ma whistleblower?
@@teaser6089huh? Isn't it the other way around? Just asking because for example most aggresions are done by the west to contain China, e.g. chip act, sanctions, etc. Also most of any aggresive approaches are done by the West.
Now you could argue that's for democracy BS and whatnot but it doesn't change the facts I just mentioned.
Ive been to many westerner youtubers and i gotta say you are surprisingly accurate. Not 100 percent but close enough. Indonesian here.
I just don't get why everyone thinks that Indonesia has to choose between China and the USA. Indonesia will be more powerful if they don't align with either.
@@pettahify Because everyone wants 'the good guys' to win
Indonesia has to choose for Indonesia. China is a no go…. and so is the USA. You know what… team up with India, that might bring stability.
@@pettahifycorrect , I hope that it came across in the conclusion of the video that’s what I was saying too , Indonesia is like best off by not aligning right now
Thanks glad to hear I got close !
Thank you so much for this content about our history. However, a view corrections:
At 7:08, the photo is irrelevant to the content (PRRI-Permesta rebellion 1957). The photo is president Sukarno with the rising general (soon to be dictatorial president) Suharto in 1966.
You said there were 2 commanders rebelled. Actually it was not only 2 but many regional commanders in Sumatra and Sulawesi rebelled. This was a power struggle between regional army commanders vs central leadership. The regional commanders were indeed anti communist, but the Army leader they were rebelling against (AH Nasution) was also anti communist.
CIA support for the rebels pushed Sukarno closer to PKI.
Wow
Very well said sir!! I like your analysis
In my view, Indonesia is a great example of a country that knows how to grow while staying true to its values. Even though most people in Indonesia are Muslim, they respect all religions. They don’t like racism and see it as a threat from outside. In the world, they try to help others without letting anyone take advantage of them. All of this is because of Pancasila, their guiding philosophy.
I really think that this country, with everyone getting along and respecting each other, can show us how to make the world a better place. We should all learn from how Indonesia sticks to Pancasila. It shows us that we can all live together happily and keep getting better.
Ehm, you do know there is a ton of domestic terrorism going on right?
Are you from Indonesia or currently residing there? No, unfortunately, it's the same situation here with the majority dictating terms without much regard for respect.
@@dedyismoyowhat is bro yapping about
@tjoifilmworks Lu juga orang indonesia cuk. Sok banget muja muji negara sendiri 😂
@@dedyismoyopasti pendukung anies ya ?
When you are powerful enough to become a player, you don’t have to pick a side.
Only until you end up in the middle of their fight. The straight of malacca will likely force them to pick a side if china makes a move on taiwan.
but currently Indonesia isn't a powerful player. they're poorly armed and developing and have a long ways to go.
yet they can't even feed their own people
@@thencrranger5628 true, as an Indonesian myself i can confirm. Poverty is a big issue and our economy is getting shittier as the years go...
@@_jaegerboy_ shittier??? My guy have you touched grass!??!!
Indonesia jadi rebutan, dan kami sebagai bangsa indonesia memahami itu.
Indonesia has their own recent, yet growing high tech or high end consumer goods markets that are beginning to break into US/EU Markets. I bought a set of high end speakers drivers and tweeters from an Indonesian company called SB Acoustics a while back. SBA is a branch of Sinar Baja Electric. Their speakers are good. They can compete with some of the best of what the US or EU has to offer and the prices are lower, or were. While it is certainly true that Indonesia relies on China or the US for a lot of trade they also have their own domestic goods and services markets that are growing and not reliant on anyone else. They're spending on education and research. They have a lot of well educated people with big ambitions to do their own thing and they're doing it. I don't think this is going to turn out to be your typical client state type arrangement like it was in the 60's. There's almost nobody that can compete with the US, EU or Japan in high end audio. It says a lot that they were able. Especially on their first attempt as far as I know.
"high end consumer goods markets that are beginning to break into US/EU Markets."
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That's not how the English language works...
You need to know something.
We suck at copying stuff except
Musical and audio instrument.
I'm a guitarist myself
The reason why the US and EU are opening their markets is the same reason as why China invests so heavily in Indonesia keep taking advantage of all these opportunities and they'll probably become the Next India or Japan if they're able to deal with their Insurgents in Papua and keep their constitution from being influenced negatively by China or the US.
Finally something about my country
Bangga haru ya cuk
Iya siap
My half Brothers last nam is tan he is half Indonesian, because of this I have studied a lot about the country.Great and brave country ❤from 🇺🇸
Yall have the best jungle warfare army
Honestly, it's Indonesia to be neutral.Besides most of SEA want to be neutral
Respect sungguh lengkap tentang negara kami Indonesia thanks 💪
As a Briton I say to our Indonesian friends DO NOT choose either side, especially Americans. Stay independent and safe. Better to be slightly poorer and free than rich and a slave. Wishing the Indonesian 🇮🇩 people the best of luck 🤞🏽
Your BP company sucked our gasoline resource in Papua btw, like another European country do to Africans country Monopoly the politics take the resources
Don't forget your ancestor exploit the American contintent, the Indian, and the Aborigin (Australia)
@@putrasetiawan2331 We explored, discovered and exploited three quarters of the planet. Created the largest empire the world has ever seen and as a consequence you have to speak my language and I don’t have to or care to, speak yours. To the victor comes the spoils.
@@EdwardThatch-ee7yx dasar bangsa penjajah
@@putrasetiawan2331 would you like some tissues for your issues? Or are you just going to cry about having been beaten by a tiny island nation on the edge of Europe?
indonesia is the first country outside US using C-130 hercules. Soekarno traded american pilot that were captured in the rebellion backed CIA in sumatra island for the plane.
There's a lot of first. Also one of the first foreign operator of M-16 rifle.
Indonesia also the first country outside of the Soviet bloc to operate MiG-21 and Tupolev Tu-16, the latter is flew covertly all the way to Australian continental heartland (Alice Springs) to spread propaganda pamphlet during Indonesian confrontation with the British made Malaysian state.
I dont see how we can be proud of that. Its not something to be proud of. Its foreign technology not ours.
@@ahjxhdkns you can buy new shiny weapons because of your good relationship with the country of manufacturer.
Its implies that Indonesia has bargaining position to ask for newest tech to that particular country.
@@nietzchan
A TU16 flying to Alice Springs, Is this true? Very interesting. Why Alice Springs, hardly anyone lives there. Do you have a source where I could read about this event?
Indonesia used to be a powerful nation long ago with strong currency, go check their history. They have many resources too
indonesia akan selalu jadi negara non blok, kalaupun pemerintah lebih condong ke satu sisi, rakyat akan turun tangan
Hahaja segera kadrun berangkat ke Iran dan Palestina. Lumayan mengirangi populasi kadrun biar Indonesia bisa maju dari korupsi, pungli dll
@@vtg1800 ngomong ape sih lo tong? Emang korupsi di Indo itu dilakukan 1 pihak doang? semua etnis, agama di indo itu udah pernah korup. norak amat jadi orang.
apa sih kardun kardun gj@@vtg1800
@@imyourwife6619 Kardun? bisa ketik gak lu?
@@vtg1800 enggak
Indonesian here, been following your channel for quite some time now. I have to say, this is quite the accurate report you have delivered.
Coming from an Indonesian I’m glad to hear that ! I try to represent other nations perspectives as accurately as possible
@Taskandpurposyou brother you do a good job💪🏿🔥💯.
Lol. It's not. We are not under Dutch for 300 years.
@@Taskandpurpose1816 - 1941 doesn’t equal 300 years Army. (BTW - I double checked that math using my “crayons” 😉 )
@@MrHacrosscrayons are for marines, he was army.
INDONESIA is trying to tame the Dragon while riding the Eagle.
let's hope they don't fly too close to the sun then...
Damn right lol
@@PrograError😂
dammnn, love this comment hahaha
As an lndonesian...love this comment 😂
As an Indonesian, I think we see more Chinese investment (largest concrete batching plant in the eastern Indonesia) compared to US investment.
What I know currently: We've been asking Freeport for smelters for years but Chinese built theirs first. (I got a small part of the offer but they asked for a very high initial investment, so I declined) Freeport expands their smelters but very slowly, while Chinese made industrial complexes in Java.
Saat ini dan kedepannya indonesia menjunjung tinggi netralitas demi keamanan bangsa dan negara
Officially, Indonesia’s geopolitic stand is neutral.
But I think in the near future the president elect Prabowo will have tendency to allign Indonesia more closely to the West.
Afterall, he came from military background and have had counter terrorism course in West Germany (1981) and special forces training at Ft. Benning in US (1981).
Great Analysis btw
Yes, but just because a president has had experience training in western country doesn’t mean he’s siding with the west. Indonesia is now capable of becoming a player. And will side with the ones that benefits the country most. As of right now China has invested billions to indonesia infrastructure and transportation and has benefited the country.
@@hectorar7890I don't know about that one pal, China investing in Indonesia is akin to China investing in Sri Lanka, Debt Trap.
Though don't take this the wrong way as if I'm supporting the US or the "West", they are all terrible but we don't have to take a side with any of these bumholes.
Both side is backstabing ashole, west or china
@@yumanorfolk3103 ga bisa samain dong Indonesia sama Sri Lanka, kita cukup pintar memanfaatkan hutang dari china, dan persentase hutang terhadap GDP juga rendah kok, jadi kejadian di Sri Lanka ga keliatan sama sekali bakal terjadi disini
@@yumanorfolk3103 indonesia is not like sri lanka bro -_-
Your channel is flat out, outstanding the analysis, the use of official diplomatic documents, and papers, the caution and identifying anything that might be debatable just great videos
please learn how to use commas
agreed. this video is incredibly made
Guy couldnt tell you what is a dutch flag
@@V0451I work with a team of animators and video editors , sometimes mistakes get through the cracks . That being said , yeah I admit I couldn’t tell you the difference between most flags without looking them up first
@@Taskandpurpose get smarter animators
Informasi yang sangat bermanfaat
Good info. Asean area is obvious key areas of our globe in the future. They have enough muscle not to take too strongly sides in the worsening conflict between US and PRC. I hve one request though. I am Northern European, flag of Denmark was shown instead of Dutch flag. So could you please update that part.
nah, we'll chose both and neither at the same time, bebas aktif for the win baby
"bebas aktif" sounds like something delicious you'd get from that new food truck that everyone's talking about.
@@THE-X-Force haha yep sound like it indeed, it means "free and active"
nah, eventually you will join the west, reasons are, 1. i dont know why but indonesias really hates chinese, 2. i dont know why but indonesians really like americans.
This is an analysis that I did not expect, but was buoyed to find. Thanx for your effort and diligence
Another important point is that the new Indonesian president is the former minister of defence and a lot more determined, so we will definetely be seeing a lot more aggressive action taken by Indonesia going forward
I love the Indonesian proverbs for such video, the most. I never had it coming, it really makes this video different from other indonesian videos. Great touch!
And for the chanel and those who like the Global Balancing Power topic, please check MIKTA, as they are literally the true wild card in balancing the clashing world of G7 and BRICS.
P.S. MIKTA: Mexico, Indonesia, Korea (South), Turkiye, and Australia). The summit held annually.
The A is Australia not Argentina
@@editorizal Yeah, u're right. Sorry, my bad, I'll edit it. Thanks mate.
Note that the Indonesian constitution mandates a "free and active" foreign policy, which has traditionally been interpreted as a ban on binding military alliances (and also a prohibition against isolationism, but that's a different kettle of fish). So it's pretty hard for the Indonesian government to _not_ sit on the geopolitical fence without violating their own constitution.
Great point !
Indonesians should always remember this.
Indonesia belong to China since the ancient times.
@@davidjacobs8558I hope Indonesians see this and know what happens if they side with china. Seeing Chinese say this doesn’t seem to promise a good future of Indonesian sovereignty if China becomes more powerful
@@davidjacobs8558Huh? What year is it any chinese kingdom rule any ancient nusantara land?
@@davidjacobs8558 in ancient times Indonesians is first to mastering seafaring, stretching their territory from Madagascar, Australia, Taiwan, to Hawaii. Trading between Africa, India, and China long before they know what beyond the sea is. China at that time doesn't even know that Taiwan is exist. Also, unlike China, Indonesia did defeat Mongol Invasion
According to recent information Japan is the number one monetary lender to Indonesia in assistance and development. Over 50 Billion dollars and growing.
woudlnt that be bad?
@@rifqimujahid4907 bad from which perspective?
@@earlbinvicoChina's perspective
@@earlbinvico generally, never put eggs in one basket?
@@Azmuth01
In other words...Bribery ?
Notice the West never accuse Japass of "debt trap" ...when Japass is a major lender !
9:31, 6:56 I like how you include several of our proverbs there!
can you explain what exactly you mean by: "Join"?
Thanks for the heads up about the situation over there!
Very impressive summary. We have lived in Indonesia for 15 years and many would agree with this nutshell análysis, so well done!
Lots of mistakes in this video.
The video tried to avert the fact that Indonesia uncovered evidence that the US along with UK deliberately instigated the Indonesian Genocide.
Mohammad Hatta coined the best term for your conclusion: Independent and Active Foreign Policy.
As an Indonesian, I am happy that you use our proverbs. I never thought they would sound so nice in English!
I did a research project on Indonesia in school. An utterly fascinating country. One of the most diverse and incredible countries ive read about. I hope that Indonesia sticks with the US and our allies but they have to do whats best for them. Average Americans are not represented well by our leaders sadly, i fear we get a poor reputation abroad for this reason.
Indonesia's foreign policy is "independent and active".
So, Indonesia never "sticks" to USA.
In a nutshell, Indonesia opens for everyone.
Sadly, we are watching that China is making a massive economic movement in Indonesia, so naturally Indonesia's economily will be more influenced by China, at least for now.
China are having massive expansion in SEA while the biggest US expansion in SEA is... building more military base in Philliphines.
Won't say it is wronf but you see the priority here....
China wants to control the world by creating dependencies while USA wants to control the world by military.
And I just realized that while Indonesia is neutral, surrounding countries are basically with USA.
Depends, if Papua insurgency can be solved I can see that. But so long Aussie is still playing, I cannot see it.
@Dominus_Potatus well yes, I understand the neutrality, I meant "stick with" as in "stay positive with, work actively with". As stated in the video, a official stance of neutrality makes sense. I just love that country and would hate any type of adversarial stance. It makes sense for Indonesia to do what is best for them, as we would as well. Why choose a side in a political standoff when you can gain from both, it makes complete sense.
yeah...sometimes i observe video in youtube ..people in the USA majority does not know country outside US
@@user-zd3yk6fu8r well, you cannot believe youtube. The US, like Indonesia is vast, varied, and unique depending on your location. My local state pushed us to learn about cultures abroad, and I actively pushed myself to learn more. Not all Americans are ignorant. It is a horrible stereotype sometimes. Most Americans are rather warm and friendly people and wish the best for others. Media would have you believe we are all unintelligent, hateful people, and it's wrong. These youtube videos cherrypick the worst of us because it makes the videos more funny. But this does us a massive disservice (but it is really funny).
Fascinating. My father worked in Indonesia, and I lived there for three years before I finished highschool. I was unaware of its broader history and importance.
Do Indonesian have Solomon's flying carpet and his armies?
Nice video
Interesting video. Note: it was not the flag of the Netherlands, it was the Danish flag used in the video.
Love Indonesia from Singapore
Thanks bro.
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I've visited singapore too, it's same like indonesia (weather, people, etc).
Greets from Batam, Indonesia🇮🇩🇮🇩
Love for both Indonesia and Singapore from Thailand
Love Singapore from indonesia
It's funny how geopolitics is often a bigger fractal of family relationships.
Just imagine Indonesia as the child of divorced parents, each trying to win the child over with presents to be the favourite parent.
The kid decides to be nice to both and get all the toys. (or play them off against eachother if they're a bit on the dark triad)
"Hey mum! Look what dad got me!"
Just gotta watch out from cousin Thailand marrying mother. Then all them islands would mean nothing.
I'd be a shorter trip than Panama all in one country. There will be nothing daddy can do.
@@jayeisenhardt1337then Thailand wake up from his sleep and realize it was all just a dream😂
@@jayeisenhardt1337when I Heard the cost of those landbridge, its not economically viable just to shorten the trips. Military benefit to China? Maybe. Economical benefit? No. We (Indo, Malay, SG) still got those 2/3 Chinese comercial ship 😂😂. Except they decided to play the very long (centuries) game and build expensive, but low maintenance canal.
@@jayeisenhardt1337even if they did successful, the traffic scale is not comparable to Malaka strait.
It's just an insurance for China if the strait under siege by US.
As an Indonesia, actually the child was sad that their parents were divorced. why can't you two be together.
I support my siblings in Indonesia.... mabuhay Philippines
kindly include sources in either the description or the comments in your videos, please!
Since you're probably wondering, the title change did get me to click the video. I saw the first version, and I didn't know what it was about, so I skipped it. I started watching the video after you changed it to the current version. Love your content btw!
Would you tell us what was the first title?
@@SukacitaYeremiai think thats a bot
@@borhot420No. RUclipsrs change titles of their video a lot... Mutahar from SomeOrdinaryGamers do that all the times, sometimes ever 5 titles. I don't know why RUclipsrs do that.
Edit: Apparently, they do that if their video underperforms in the first few minutes
First title was “why Indonesia is quietly preparing for war” changed it because I thought it was not a good representation of what the episode was about. If you’re able to find a more accurate title it translates to more people seeing a video they enjoy , in theory.
@@dashua1735 it's A/B testing sometimes. YT has that function to optimise the SEO. tho not sure if it's only for larger channels...
Nice recap. I knew a lot of the bits of this but your analysis tied it together well for me. Thanks. Well done.
Kita orang Indonesia diajari mencari teman sebanyak banyaknya dan menghindari permusuhan, jadi sampai hari kiamat pun indonesia netral, kalau bisa indonesia menjadi penengah diantara persaingan yang sengit, buat apa hidup bermusuhan dan perang lebih baik Damai seperti yang di inginkan tuhan😊😊
12:39 my home city btw that spot is near my home the shot that is in time stamp is'kampung pelangi'or rainbow village,this city has a navy base and not near shore/sea why?
Thanks for helping explain about Indonesian history and Indonesia's impact on the world's future
Very interresting and seldom explained ! Thank you !
If we have to choose, I think Indonesia will join to China, we are asian, we have long relations since the Majapahit era and the Ming dynasty. Im Indonesian
Indonesia Natural. Independent and active. That why we continue grow our strength. To bring balance in region. Respect neighbour and other countries..
you maybe won't care about my opinion but, it's like you have 2 friends n they both in rivalry, you can't choose between friends, you can't leave them because they're your friends, i hope we could be friends together ❤ spread love not a war ❤🇮🇩😊
Thorough and informative.
As always.
Prawn behind the rock...you got that malay proverb spot on
4:27 minor problem that the danish flag, not the dutch flag
I was about to say... 😂
Me too😂
me three xD LOL 😂😂
Danish is a Dutch territory.
JK
Either his teams were clueless or they deliberately used that flag so the viewers will comments to correct the flag which will increase the video engagement and will make the video get promoted to other people. Just like how he misspelled a lot of stuffs.
RUclips system.
@@lachesachairulanam9137 speaking of clueless .... Denmark is a soveriegn state and has never been a Dutch territory.
Indonesia seems to have a lot in common with the strategic situation in Turkey today. Despite being a NATO member, Turkey is also wisely looking out for its own interests first, and like Indonesia is positioned at a crossroad between various great powers and current conflicts. Thank you for the detailed run-down on Indonesia's history and current world position.
Turkey has commitments and obligations to NATO, which it is not fulfilling.
@@earlysda when those obligations comes at your expense I can understand why they are bitter
@@arrielradja5522well they come at the expense of Ukraine right now. Turkey is helping Russian economy more than allied economies.
@@Isaac-eh6uu Eh what can I say politic sucks, turkey serve its best interest Nato serves it best interest. Saying one's action righteous for the betterment of others while in truth is self serving is quite hypocritical I must say.
Indonesia's standard rifle is the ss amban 2 not the m16/m4
Picking side will be a battleground
From what I see and learn about the foreign policies of countries in the world... in my view Indonesia is a country that is most difficult to predict regarding economics and politics.. No one knows that Indonesia has now advanced far without us knowing. Indonesia has a strong state principle of BHINNEKA TUNGGAL IKA, they don't think about foreign influences Because of past history... they have their own principles of life which are an example for many countries, but not a single country in the world can implement what Indonesia has.
Indeed, in complicated Indonesian history in the last few centuries, it has a common idea: simply picking any side just ended up disaster for the Indonesian people & nation.
And thats a good thing, apart from what happened under Suharto, Indonesia keeping non aligned is a good idea
A very interesting perspective. Thankyou Chris.
I hope that my country, Indonesia, can maintain all of this well. And one important thing, don't be easily influenced quickly, but learn first
idk who taught you those classic proverbs but all of them are spot on
Quite well researched. Kudos!
As a long time student of Indonesia this is a pretty good video
Cool hats, too
Why does it feel like theres a lot of ASEAN proverbs being translated into english in this one vid?
The video encompasses a good range of nuances that explains our approach in the current geopolitics, but what's missing here is Indonesia is just as suspicious to the US as we do to the Chinese. Soeharto, the longest reigned dictator in Indonesia is, in a sense, a fanboy of the US. It is under his rule that the infamous Freeport is sucking up Papua's mountain dry without enriching the country in return for decades just like what happened in Africa. Many even believed that the US is behind many of the suppression by mass murders starting from 1965, as mentioned in the book "The Jakarta Method". In a sense, it's not too crazy to assume that Soeharto's authoritarian rule was "allowed" by the US for decades since it could suppress soviet influence in the region, along with persecuting Chinese ethnicity at the same time, a complete fun package.
So the concern of foreign intervention runs deep within every fabric of our policy. It is hard to imagine the days when we will align ourselves as allies to any sides of international conflict, we had enough fill of colonialism and neo-colonialism after all.
centuries of being colonized still practically left scar inside each and every indonesian, we didnt like foreign government to involved with our bussiness
I meant to tie together the fact that the US tried to overthrow the government and the CIA supported the coup is why Indoensia is just as suspicious of US as they are of China
@@Taskandpurpose it sure is there, but it makes it seems like it's just a one off thing. What makes us really suspicious is that it happens many, many times, for a long, long time.
The fact that we are helpless about Freeport for decades (only able to pressure them to rewrite the contract) only a few years ago is the prime example of it. There are tons of other different anecdotal instances as well, but yeah.
betul sodara mereka itu masih mau menjaja bangsa kita,,kita harus lawan negara negara barat endengen
Throughout history, The PRC never have had conquest ASEAN or any countries outside of its territories, including Indonresia. So, you forget to take this into account.@@Taskandpurpose
Penjelasan yang sangat detail dan lengkap, goodjob @task & purpose 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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As indonesian i hope that they dont take any sides
The Dutch in 1945: Wow. How terrible it was being under such brutal foreign oppression. I am so glad that we are finally a free people of a sovereign nation...anyways, let's take back Indonesia.
The French in WWII occupied another country to set up their government because their country was occupied. Colonialism was just a notch below or the same as nazism
@@silentvoiceinthedark5665 they sent European mercenary & nazi prisoner to fight in Indonesian war of independence in 1945 to 1949, maybe we the only country that have to fight the NAZI after WW2
No way, kami rakyat Indonesia siap mati demi tanah air
The Dutch saw it as "liberating" Indonesia from Japanese occupation. Hence, they returned to Indonesia without any feelings of hypocrisy.
@@fasha7747 And the Japanese had claimed that they were liberating Asia from European colonial exploitation.
Indonesia is a brave & smart country in Asia, they blocked Chinese military ships, coast guards & fishermen's from entering their water territories before the Chinese tried to build any artificial islands.
No talks just actions.
Thank you for this video, I just add that in 2024, Indonesia will have developed and its economy will not only depend on the 2 big countries but will cover all countries in remote parts of Africa. and what's more, Indonesia has developed defense equipment made by the nation's children which has been recognized worldwide. Indonesia 🇮🇩 NKRI HARGA MATI