A CIWS starts to track targets at about 148 knots. It's a last ditch effort to protect the ship. It's not used for engagement with other ships and small boats.
A bofors 57mm naval gun in the front could be a good offensive shore gun, a CWIS is a must on this ship they can install it in the higher mounts like in the roof of the super structure.
This ship is very useful for us, an Indonesian country whose country is in the form of an archipelago. The shipping of soldiers, amphibious tanks and combat vehicles to an island become very easy. In addition, tanks and other amphibious vehicles can immediately take an attacking position in taking over an island through the bow door of the ship.
Very few users seem to want ships with bow ramps for unimproved landing sites. I've found one class of combined LST/LPD, the old Soviet "Ivan Rogov:" and they didn't build many and didn't replace them and nobody else seems to do it. The Russians haven't built any more LSTs, nor the US. Everybody is going with LHA and a few with well decks aft for watercraft. A very useful class would be something big enough to operate STOVL planes, perhaps with a ski jump, but also for other missions be capable of LST/LPD, as well as trans-shipping freight from container ships as well as tankers. Ballast the rear end down for a wet well deck aft while pumping the front end tanks dry, to beach it. If it's a big ship, the rear end is out far enough that big freighters and tankers can come alongside the aft end.
So damn cool. Power through the waves, ram the thing on to a beach, drop the ramp and send tanks charging at the fortifications while providing support fire. And when it's safe enough send your troops flying though the broken line in armored transports.
2 50 cals and what looks like a 25 or something, youll be fine, anything bigger that needs some hurting will be taken on by cruisers, assault craft, air support etc.
Probably still not much. Safe to assume they wanted the lowest draft possible so they used light weight materials. I’m just taking a guess though so correct me if you find the right answer.
If you do the displacement calculations on essentially flat-bottom boats like this, you find out that water is... very very heavy... 61 pounds per cubic foot, or a metric ton per cubic meter. Take 100 meters x 15m x 3m (approx average dimensions for this ship below waterline if you squared it up) = 4500 metric tons of total lift/float. The boat only takes up 1700 of that, leaving you (2800 tons!) a lot of room for cargo & cakes. The thing could literally carry another one of itself as cargo. Irregularities in the shape of the bottom and a little rocking with the waves mean you may actually draw another meter or so. It's amazing how much stuff will float in a boat that is still mostly full of air and spreads out sideways. You could put 4 inches of steel armor on that lander and it would only add another meter of draft. If you want to see some really wacky size to draft ratios, look at what catamarans and trimarans can do. There are 42x12-meter water-taxi catamarans that only draw 1.5 meters and can go 40 knots. With a true trimaran, you can practically have the deck space of a small aircraft carrier and you could literally wade out to it from shore. The thing is, you may see stats on aircraft carriers and some other long-running big ships, and they are sucking up like 15 meters of water; but those have long, narrow keels sticking down like fins. Those deepwater hulls are not about carrying more stuff, they are about navigational efficiency, stability in nasty weather, and speed. That carrier has to stay rock-steady and on a tight course in storm waters for the planes to land safely. An LST can afford to rock'n'roll with the waves a bit more -- it will get plenty stable again once it grounds itself up on the beach :)
@@animistchannel2983 the draftsurveys on yachts and multi hull designs arent realy applicable on this ship. Its safe to state that all merchant ships nowadays are flat bottomed as the draft itself is a limiting factor in the ports and shoals it can safely navigate. A boxy mid section is the norm with a little bit of kim for rolling cushioning. Keeping in mind that stability wise the rightingmoment is highly dependent on weight destribution and less on hull and keel form itself. Also in the case of beaching a vessel the stability would be critical with any form of v shaped hull. The mass to volume on the loads this ship will experience is realy low as hmmv's or any vehicle would be almost completly filled with air, the same as accomodations for marines and crew. Also the volume/mass of seawater (atleast the oceans) is 1.025ton/m^3. It would be safe to say the ship would be orientated to saltwater beaches.
@ Finn -- probably not on the roof, as it likely wasn't designed with the excess space and specs for a full Phalanx class CIWS ? But perhaps one of those 20kw +/- drone zapper lasers could however be installed there ? But you likely could replace the 30mm bow gun with a CIWS sys of some sort. Yes .
If you were really doing a landing under likely fire, you'd have air support jets, plus gun coverage from at least OPV's like the Holland class (76mm @ up to 120 shells/minute from 16km out, or sitting just offshore behind you in like 5 meters of water with its 30mm and various 12mm); plus there's the helicopter the lander carries itself and the OPV's chopper, which means even more machine guns and rockets, etc. Also, the crew (or your landing infantry dudes) can get up on the foredeck with their weapons and cover the first stage vehicle landing from the sniper positions set up there. Notice the peek-holes in the armor wall around the perimeter of the 30mm? Of course, as soon as the first tanks roll out to ground from the RORO deck, you have mobile armor support with all their stuff going on for the rest of the parade. They will just squash anything in the vicinity before your infantry dudes even have to walk off the deck. If you're trying to come ashore against too much heat for all that to cover, you need to just back off out to sea and let the carrier group soften up that area until it's bloody ready to land on, sir! A ship like this doesn't just show up out of nowhere and run around by itself. It comes with a pack of big nasty friends and a plan. Of course, in the real world, there won't be another D-day, and what's most likely to come rolling out of there is a UN relief convoy full of water bottles and medical supplies for an earthquake disaster response. Real war among "equal powers" is essentially over. The only people who can really afford to play have too much incentive to not blow up all their riches. Whatever campaigns happen after this will be putting down pirates or taking out a local tinpot dictator who tortures babies. That's why you see so much downsizing to lighter/patrol vessels with equivalent-scaled weapons. For anything big, you use air power.
Maybe you should worry about making the few ships you have work, before considering even more ships. I heard all of UK's destroyers were in the shipyard cause they all broke down. Royal Navy was unable to replace the destroyer that had suffered the glitch in that exercise. Thank gods UK was not at war then.
@@cyanoticspore676 It is not true. It was true once when the report had made it to the papers.www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/six-royal-navys-type-45-11722210
The Damen shipyard ads are quite interesting and informative, but some of us wonder how durable their ships really are. How well do Damen ships hold up to rough seas (e.g. Sea State 8 or higher)? How often must they be docked for overhaul and repainting? Are there new paints and coatings that give ships more life? How protected are ships to modern-day pirates and smugglers from 14.5 mm machine guns and RPGs?
Mais um ótimo navio fabricado pela DAMEN. Lindo navio, engenharia de construção formidável. Sem dúvida, um navio que qualquer marinha do mundo gostaria imensamente de possuir em sua esquadra.
Top! Seria ótimo se o Brasil pudesse construir pelo menos 1 numa parceria, já que os nossos G25 & G28 são de 1966 e 1969 e precisam ser aposentados urgentemente.
Ja , ja , ja ... ¿ Que comes que adivinas ? Solo a partir de fines de abril y , por lo que dijo el Contraalmirante Ramiro Navajas Santini ... se sabe del proyecto ESCOTILLON -4 que esta en si fase inicial para elegir un Diseño Basico Naval que termine en la Construccion de 3 Barcazas de Desembarco Anfibio (21-5-2020 )
from what i have seen, they could of saved some money by minor updates to the newport class lst. they allready have all of the features listed here plus a whole lot more.
Ships like this would have been really useful on D-Day. Thousands of men who were mowed down on the beaches (think the opening scene of SPR) would not have been.
The layout is almost the exact same as the Old World War II era LSTs. The Only Exception is the old LSTs used elevators to get vehicles from top deck to the bottom deck and this ship uses ramps
I think the USMC needed some amphibious capacity to increase their flexibility in the Indo-pacific with a Light Amphibious Ship. The US projects cost are explosing, this could be an excellent solution. Add a decent close air defence and they are good to go.
Le Drostanoir Still an impractical design for their criteria. The ramps would be rendered useless, and they don’t have a crew that really needs at least 320 beds.
We wish the fishermen would sink the sea shepard. Pirates on the high seas. The CEO and Board of Directors make millions of dollars while dupes commit the crimes...
If i would decide upon the german marine corps, i´d buy 4 of the LST120 + one Helicopter Carrier. This would help create a first real German marine infantry brigade after WW2. I already heard from comrades, #DAMEN Ships are very well built. The NL Navy borrowed one of them to the #Bundeswehr, as far as i remember.
@@keithwatson1384 The expansion that this guy is talking about is puny compared to what Germans did back then. German Military today is nowhere near as powerful as the top 5 nations.
Death Parade There is a lot of BS going on, spending wise. Our new Puma IFV costs around 10 Mio €, while a Leopard 2A6 costs around 5.7 Mio € per unit. And than there is a Lynx IFV made by the same company, but with more off the shelf Parts. Just being sold for exports. Or the replacement of the superbé G36. Instead of buying the newest Version for relatively cheap as a replacement, they are going now for the HK417... Our procurement-process is broken... Our Leadership is dumb in a military sense: Reliant on counseling contracts worth hundreds of Mio and a few war mongering officers around the top, who want to change our Bundeswehr to an attack force as an assist to the NATO war machine. Instead we should focus on our mitigated defensive capabilities and our international duties for UN peacekeeping missions (the real given tasks by our constitution).
I didn’t think I needed this but now I know I need it more than anything, I think I’ll take 2 actually, perfect for my army
Weeb? Nice profile picture and username.
*i think 2020 is about to get a lot more chaotic*
big chungus sim racing Yeah true,might go for a third one then. Hopefully it won’t break my budget
MiguelPpM yeah I am
Can I join your army?
Perfect for visiting my neighbours in Venice.
Oh thanks, I was wondering how to move my military ships.
RUclips recommendation anyone
Me from ph
Me too, but worthy (for me, personally)
@@Barri2410 yes..worth watching
I bet EVERYONE in China has it now..can probably buy Christmas toys of it this yr.
Me
I did not think I would be interested about a video about landers but I was wrong.
Perfect! I was in the market for an amphibious assault transport!
Definitely a seriously cool ship, gotta love working ships!!
I think a CIWS instead of the 30mm cannon could really improve crew safety
The landing ship would be escorted by escort ships. The bow gun is its last line of defense
They most likely have 50 mounts through out the ship, the newport class T's had 2 3" twin mounts
A CIWS starts to track targets at about 148 knots. It's a last ditch effort to protect the ship. It's not used for engagement with other ships and small boats.
A bofors 57mm naval gun in the front could be a good offensive shore gun, a CWIS is a must on this ship they can install it in the higher mounts like in the roof of the super structure.
Just what I need for my invasion of France next summer. Going to grab a few from Walmart.
Hi there, random SpaceX fan!
Sorry, but Walmart will have the Chinese knockoffs! One big wave and they will break into pieces! Go all American!
Bruh if it's France you're invading then you won't need all this.
The Royal Marines need some of these...
Tom Eason or the REAL American marines!
Just kidding
@@murphym3755 MURICA DON'T NEED THAT THING!!
@@murphym3755 THEY ALWAYS SPAM LANDING CRAFT AIRCRAFT CARRIER
@@happyalltheday2275 now I just imagine Nimitz's fucking just ROMPING onto the beaches destroying their bows and planes falling out.
Looks much different than the 246 class LST I served on in VN! Great new look for an LST, a few less weapons than we had, but probably mucho accurate
Deffently different than the newport class
Thank you for your service sir
Incredible design !!!
Very well done .
The Royal Marines Commandoes need this bit of kit yesterday !!!
Very impressive vessel for it's size.
This ship is very useful for us, an Indonesian country whose country is in the form of an archipelago. The shipping of soldiers, amphibious tanks and combat vehicles to an island become very easy. In addition, tanks and other amphibious vehicles can immediately take an attacking position in taking over an island through the bow door of the ship.
Very few users seem to want ships with bow ramps for unimproved landing sites.
I've found one class of combined LST/LPD, the old Soviet "Ivan Rogov:" and they didn't build many and didn't replace them and nobody else seems to do it. The Russians haven't built any more LSTs, nor the US. Everybody is going with LHA and a few with well decks aft for watercraft.
A very useful class would be something big enough to operate STOVL planes, perhaps with a ski jump, but also for other missions be capable of LST/LPD, as well as trans-shipping freight from container ships as well as tankers.
Ballast the rear end down for a wet well deck aft while pumping the front end tanks dry, to beach it.
If it's a big ship, the rear end is out far enough that big freighters and tankers can come alongside the aft end.
Like a modified juan carlos?
Was looking at Yacht Support Vessels. Wasn't disappointed.
DAMEN dan PT PAL Indonesia terus berkarya😊
Are you going to put the details on your web page?
So what is the fully loaded displacement for this ship?
yes
@@kushmanthebushman LMAO
1700 tonnes, I found it on the company website
Nicholas Teng that is light.
@@justanotherasian4395 But it is what it is
So damn cool.
Power through the waves, ram the thing on to a beach, drop the ramp and send tanks charging at the fortifications while providing support fire. And when it's safe enough send your troops flying though the broken line in armored transports.
The USCG needs these, it would improve their range by alot
Amazing job!!! Great & wonderful ship, I really like it.
God bless Albanian Nation!
Gotta hand it to Damen. They design some cool looking boats.
Came for the LST stayed for the fresh beats
Great video. Awesome capability. Only suggestion would be a little bit more on deck armament to suppress enemy response to landing
2 50 cals and what looks like a 25 or something, youll be fine, anything bigger that needs some hurting will be taken on by cruisers, assault craft, air support etc.
9 tank, 6 apc, 12 humvee, 4 lcvp, is that possible? how deep is the ship's draft with full load?
Probably still not much. Safe to assume they wanted the lowest draft possible so they used light weight materials. I’m just taking a guess though so correct me if you find the right answer.
Draft would be around 3 to 4 meters. Why is that not possible?
If you do the displacement calculations on essentially flat-bottom boats like this, you find out that water is... very very heavy... 61 pounds per cubic foot, or a metric ton per cubic meter.
Take 100 meters x 15m x 3m (approx average dimensions for this ship below waterline if you squared it up) = 4500 metric tons of total lift/float. The boat only takes up 1700 of that, leaving you (2800 tons!) a lot of room for cargo & cakes. The thing could literally carry another one of itself as cargo. Irregularities in the shape of the bottom and a little rocking with the waves mean you may actually draw another meter or so.
It's amazing how much stuff will float in a boat that is still mostly full of air and spreads out sideways. You could put 4 inches of steel armor on that lander and it would only add another meter of draft.
If you want to see some really wacky size to draft ratios, look at what catamarans and trimarans can do. There are 42x12-meter water-taxi catamarans that only draw 1.5 meters and can go 40 knots. With a true trimaran, you can practically have the deck space of a small aircraft carrier and you could literally wade out to it from shore.
The thing is, you may see stats on aircraft carriers and some other long-running big ships, and they are sucking up like 15 meters of water; but those have long, narrow keels sticking down like fins. Those deepwater hulls are not about carrying more stuff, they are about navigational efficiency, stability in nasty weather, and speed.
That carrier has to stay rock-steady and on a tight course in storm waters for the planes to land safely. An LST can afford to rock'n'roll with the waves a bit more -- it will get plenty stable again once it grounds itself up on the beach :)
@@animistchannel2983 Great explanation!
@@animistchannel2983 the draftsurveys on yachts and multi hull designs arent realy applicable on this ship. Its safe to state that all merchant ships nowadays are flat bottomed as the draft itself is a limiting factor in the ports and shoals it can safely navigate. A boxy mid section is the norm with a little bit of kim for rolling cushioning.
Keeping in mind that stability wise the rightingmoment is highly dependent on weight destribution and less on hull and keel form itself. Also in the case of beaching a vessel the stability would be critical with any form of v shaped hull.
The mass to volume on the loads this ship will experience is realy low as hmmv's or any vehicle would be almost completly filled with air, the same as accomodations for marines and crew. Also the volume/mass of seawater (atleast the oceans) is 1.025ton/m^3. It would be safe to say the ship would be orientated to saltwater beaches.
Maybe add one Phalanx CIWS on the roof?
Nah. Too op.
@ Finn -- probably not on the roof, as it likely wasn't designed with the excess space and specs for a full Phalanx class CIWS ? But perhaps one of those 20kw +/- drone zapper lasers could however be installed there ? But you likely could replace the 30mm bow gun with a CIWS sys of some sort. Yes .
If you were really doing a landing under likely fire, you'd have air support jets, plus gun coverage from at least OPV's like the Holland class (76mm @ up to 120 shells/minute from 16km out, or sitting just offshore behind you in like 5 meters of water with its 30mm and various 12mm); plus there's the helicopter the lander carries itself and the OPV's chopper, which means even more machine guns and rockets, etc.
Also, the crew (or your landing infantry dudes) can get up on the foredeck with their weapons and cover the first stage vehicle landing from the sniper positions set up there. Notice the peek-holes in the armor wall around the perimeter of the 30mm?
Of course, as soon as the first tanks roll out to ground from the RORO deck, you have mobile armor support with all their stuff going on for the rest of the parade. They will just squash anything in the vicinity before your infantry dudes even have to walk off the deck.
If you're trying to come ashore against too much heat for all that to cover, you need to just back off out to sea and let the carrier group soften up that area until it's bloody ready to land on, sir!
A ship like this doesn't just show up out of nowhere and run around by itself. It comes with a pack of big nasty friends and a plan. Of course, in the real world, there won't be another D-day, and what's most likely to come rolling out of there is a UN relief convoy full of water bottles and medical supplies for an earthquake disaster response.
Real war among "equal powers" is essentially over. The only people who can really afford to play have too much incentive to not blow up all their riches. Whatever campaigns happen after this will be putting down pirates or taking out a local tinpot dictator who tortures babies. That's why you see so much downsizing to lighter/patrol vessels with equivalent-scaled weapons. For anything big, you use air power.
You’d think there would be one with additional Laser systems to fry missles
Other naval vessels by Damen are equipped with the MANTIS by Rheinmetall.
Luar biasa pelaut ke eropa smoga sukses saudaraku.
the best choice to replace Batral Champlain :)
any of them built and in service yet ?
Awesome concept barge bottom deck for storage vehicles transport nice like innovation
wow good south korea must buy this one
It would be so cool to have one of these
This boat is beautiful because of what is inside and usefulness
Excelente aquisição para o Corpo de Fuzileiros Navais da Marinha do Brasil...
2025 Việt Nam có hai tàu đổ bộ này thì tuyệt vời 😁👍
Sắp có r, đang đặt mua Sigma 9814 của hãng Damen này luôn nè
BEAUTIFUL !!
Now that’s a warship!
EXCELLENT !!!!!!!!!!
Polivalente. Buen diseño. Estos holandeses saben lo que hacen
Gracias
Well this looks nice im adding this on my minecraft military base.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
É incrível como são lindos e utilitários esses produtos navais!
I love DAMEN !
RAMEN
Amazing looking ship the UK should buy some.
Maybe you should worry about making the few ships you have work, before considering even more ships. I heard all of UK's destroyers were in the shipyard cause they all broke down. Royal Navy was unable to replace the destroyer that had suffered the glitch in that exercise. Thank gods UK was not at war then.
@@death_parade yeah that's not true
@@cyanoticspore676 It is not true. It was true once when the report had made it to the papers.www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/six-royal-navys-type-45-11722210
這麼設計畫很不錯！👍👍👍
Best ship ever
not going lie this is very well engineered and taught of this must have taken months. hope u make bank off of some countries.
The Damen shipyard ads are quite interesting and informative, but some of us wonder how durable their ships really are. How well do Damen ships hold up to rough seas (e.g. Sea State 8 or higher)? How often must they be docked for overhaul and repainting? Are there new paints and coatings that give ships more life? How protected are ships to modern-day pirates and smugglers from 14.5 mm machine guns and RPGs?
I think that the Marines are in the market for something like this
Time to park this ship next to India.
Nice clean transition
Fantastic
so if the ship was being shot at during sleep time, would the troops get first serve?
Mais um ótimo navio fabricado pela DAMEN. Lindo navio, engenharia de construção formidável. Sem dúvida, um navio que qualquer marinha do mundo gostaria imensamente de possuir em sua esquadra.
I'm a 17 yo student, why tf I got so many weapon system and military equipement videos in my recommendation?
Can I get an early access reviewer model? I promise I’ll give it back
Top! Seria ótimo se o Brasil pudesse construir pelo menos 1 numa parceria, já que os nossos G25 & G28 são de 1966 e 1969 e precisam ser aposentados urgentemente.
sim.
could use smoke launchers to cover landing troops, maybe lightly armored bow?
Hermoso 😍 😍 👍👍👍👍,deme tres para Chilito, 👏👏👏👏
Ja , ja , ja ... ¿ Que comes que adivinas ? Solo a partir de fines de abril y , por lo que dijo el Contraalmirante Ramiro Navajas Santini ... se sabe del proyecto ESCOTILLON -4 que esta en si fase inicial para elegir un Diseño Basico Naval que termine en la Construccion de 3 Barcazas de Desembarco Anfibio (21-5-2020 )
@@teddy2738 uhh, ojalá se dé el proyecto estimado. 🇨🇱👍
Peaple got this in there recomended? I searches for it
Oh this is good!
Dürfen auch Herren dieses Schiff benutzen? ;)
au mann...
Der kommt Flach wie die Niederlande
Hihi Haha 😂 😂😂
Who else watched this without clicking the video
from what i have seen, they could of saved some money by minor updates to the newport class lst. they allready have all of the features listed here plus a whole lot more.
perfect for my army
Nothing like the LST I was on back in 1980!
LST-1181 USS SUMTER
@@erichall3090 LST 1180 Manitowoc, Little Creek, VA
@@erichall3090 wat you know bout the sumter...?
@@snizakes All day NYC son, whatup
@@snizakes Get at me.
Ships like this would have been really useful on D-Day. Thousands of men who were mowed down on the beaches (think the opening scene of SPR) would not have been.
Pt. Pal mungkin bisa buat KRI jenis LST kerjasama dg DAMEN industries Belanda.
Muy bien utilizando el espacio interior, PERÚ debe comprar 8 LIS 120 por la geografía del PERÚ y para DEFENSA NACIONAL.
Won't the front door be stuck in the mud?
You have to offer this type of vessel to Brazil if they want an accepted technology transfer
El modelo LST-120 ist' ideal for Chilean Navy... great !!
can you feature all concepts designs available just like in the video
love these work ships ...
LST 80 O 100 SERIAN MAGNIFICOS PARA EL PERU, PERO AUMENTANDOLE SU VELOCIDAD.
The music kind of reminds me of puddle of mudd's blurry. It took me a while to figure out where I heard this before.
The music is pure hell.
Maybe a little more protection for the side boats, I think they are too exposed to enemy fire... Great ship :)
@@tatumergo3931 sure, I mean not to damage the ships in case of enemy fire or something, just for protection of the ships.
@@tatumergo3931 Yes, maybe you're right :)
i'm asking my self ... why sea are so polluted with so good technology..available ??
I'll take two.
The layout is almost the exact same as the Old World War II era LSTs. The Only Exception is the old LSTs used elevators to get vehicles from top deck to the bottom deck and this ship uses ramps
nice LST
might cop one idk
What about color options? Can i get a pink one?
Pls also made video on lpd vessels 🙏🙏🙏
Nice
Hey Albania needs some of those
Perfect for a massacre.
In the 21st Century Greek Underworld, this is Charon's ferry!
Only in Europe what does the United States have?
Sigma futuras Fragatas da Marinha do Brasil
NO... MEKO A -200 FUE LA ESCOGIDA FINALMENTE !!!
I think the USMC needed some amphibious capacity to increase their flexibility in the Indo-pacific with a Light Amphibious Ship. The US projects cost are explosing, this could be an excellent solution.
Add a decent close air defence and they are good to go.
This kinda reminds me of WW2 ships landing in the shore.
Why need the Davit/crane?
Just imagine if the sea shepherds got ahold of this marvel 😍😍😍
Le Drostanoir And what would they do with that...? You can’t save whales by doing a beach invasion.
Will Kilmer well, they don't only save whales, but I guess you're kinda correct 😂😂 they can store loads of zodiacs on board though...
Le Drostanoir Still an impractical design for their criteria. The ramps would be rendered useless, and they don’t have a crew that really needs at least 320 beds.
Will Kilmer yeah, I guess you're right. I'll just leave this to stay where my fantasies are 😂😂
We wish the fishermen would sink the sea shepard. Pirates on the high seas. The CEO and Board of Directors make millions of dollars while dupes commit the crimes...
How much price this ship I will buy it
all amphibious ships are good for emergency services in case of natural disater to easy the hardship when it needed most.
If i would decide upon the german marine corps, i´d buy 4 of the LST120 + one Helicopter Carrier. This would help create a first real German marine infantry brigade after WW2. I already heard from comrades, #DAMEN Ships are very well built. The NL Navy borrowed one of them to the #Bundeswehr, as far as i remember.
The Dutch and German navies have a joint venture to use the HMS Karel Doorman: ruclips.net/video/yNiQrUkr8gs/видео.html
the last 2 time the germans decided to significantly expand their military it didn't really work out for anyone!
just saying
@@keithwatson1384 You mean 1955!?
@@keithwatson1384 The expansion that this guy is talking about is puny compared to what Germans did back then. German Military today is nowhere near as powerful as the top 5 nations.
Death Parade There is a lot of BS going on, spending wise. Our new Puma IFV costs around 10 Mio €, while a Leopard 2A6 costs around 5.7 Mio € per unit. And than there is a Lynx IFV made by the same company, but with more off the shelf Parts. Just being sold for exports. Or the replacement of the superbé G36. Instead of buying the newest Version for relatively cheap as a replacement, they are going now for the HK417... Our procurement-process is broken...
Our Leadership is dumb in a military sense: Reliant on counseling contracts worth hundreds of Mio and a few war mongering officers around the top, who want to change our Bundeswehr to an attack force as an assist to the NATO war machine. Instead we should focus on our mitigated defensive capabilities and our international duties for UN peacekeeping missions (the real given tasks by our constitution).