Pro Nuzlocker Ranks Every Pokemon In Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl
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Who do you think you are, 442oons?
But if it's winter, why wouldn't I prefer having hairy balls? Keeps the heat in better
Opinion on Gliscor?
Aye bro I think you forgot houndoom at least b tier better than rapidash it’s typing is ok
I think the Manscaped sponsorships are super fun. Congrats on getting a sponsorship from them!
Glad to see that over a year later he’s still unapologetically shitting on onix.
At least you can evolve it
As he should
@@amazegamer6428 true. Steelix is quite the wall.
I love Onix, but hes actually trash, in some gens hes okay, but BDSP does not treat him well, tons of random Gyarados and Kadabra just decimate him, gyms all are pretty terrible match ups for him, Gardenia into Maylene into Crasher Wake into Fantina is ROUGH lol, and after that point hes statistically fallen off so hard hes practically useless.
Hes actually pretty solid against Roark if you get him as your mine encounter cuz he gets Dragonbreath at Lv 12 and Bind + Dragonbreath actually works well in that gym, but thats just about all he can do.
It’s warranted. A lower attack stat than fucking seedot, on your giant rock snake
“You know what else is low tier and hairy”
“Your ballsack”
-Sun Tzu (Art of war)
"I didn't say any of this crap...." -Sun Tzu, probably
"My mom."
-Muscle Man.
@@Nonexistility “I miss her”
-muscle man
that was a fucking god tier transition to the sponsorship
Made me laugh :3
Simultaneously the best and worst sponsor transition I've ever seen
Haven’t finished the video, I’m guessing it was with Cherubi
Edit: that was better than I could’ve ever imagined
I actually laughed out loud
I could not... BELIEVE... that was actually where he went for it. It was so perfect, and I cracked up laughing.
It´s nice to see Tier List like this where you can see the preparation before the video, which makes it not only shorter but also better quality, great job Jan, I know he won´t read this but is here for the homies anyway
But the mods will we got you
Honestly Gyarados is not that good in my opinion.If I have a raichu with Thunderbolt it Will problably One shot
@@Red-lu1rx i thought you were a respectable trainer but how in the world will you leave your Gyarados against a Raichu? Gyarados carried my entire SoulSilver Hardcore Nuzlocke, got him at lvl 8, and was in my Team when I actually beat your Raichu with my Steelix :)
@@TheHermano5 agreed that was a pretty dumb comment.
@@Red-lu1rx that’s like saying garchomp isn’t good bc u can probably one shot with blizzard. Any Pokémon sucks if you keep it in on its weakness
Waterfall on level 21 on Gyarados is completely nuts. It was already an S+ tier nuzlock Mon, despite the fact that it didn't learn any good physical water move very early. Now it lost its only downside.
I foresaw level 20 Shadow Ball Drifloon in SwSh and knew it's gonna rank high in BDSP, but BDSP gave Gyarados level 21 and I'm like WTF
One of the reasons why bdsp is easy...they give you many good moves early on
@@WheelStart Power up punch chimchar is just a free win on a silver platter for the early game
Man
@@r.r.4563 power up punch twice and sweep with Mach punch.. GG
Ya... 80 base power 100 accuracy at level 21 LOL
Ol reliable crobat was probably the best mon I used for this game, went deathless until the elite four and crobat was a big reason for that
I've been using a plus attack pinser with swords dance lol
I used crobat for my nuzlocke, it hasn’t died yet so I think it is good
I killed my zubat from an early game gyarados I couldn’t switch into :(
I was using crobat until i realized I wanted my intimidate Staraptor instead. Both have been amazing for me
Make sure to pick up that ball toner folks
Gyarados getting Waterfall at level 21 is likely a reference to the myth the Pokemon is based on.
It’s a story about how a lowly carp manages to swim up a magical waterfall and is rewarded by being turned into a dragon or something like that. So, it learns waterfall to show that it’s able to swim up waterfalls.
IT GETS WHAT AT LEVEL 21?!
@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 waterfall
I love the background behind Magikarp, but Gyarados was strong with bite I. Past generations, now with Waterfall a Stab physical attack is crazyy
@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 You think that's busted? Chimchar gets power-up punch at lvl 12. A lot of mons have updated movesets to be disgusting.
WATERFALL!?!?! ah hell no, now Magikarp is DEFINITELY banned from my BDSP nuzlockes
As someone who loves drapion, when he called it "just a little slow" I immediately went "bish it has 95 base speed, is that not enough for an already bulky mon?"
I was baffled when I was using drapion and it was faster than most of my other pokemon.
Second best Dark/Poison type, only behind Alolan Muk. Tho it deals way more damage with Sniper+Scope Lens Cross Poison/NightSlash crits. It also has Fell Stinger, so if u manage to switch it into something and kill it with FS.. Welp
@@AlldaylongRock Drapion Even Learns Swords Dance,So If Drapion gets off a Swords Dance,and Then Kills with Fell Stinger,it Gets +5 attack Instantly. Combined with Stab Moves Like Cross Poison/Night Slash Is Just Busted
However,I never gave my Drapion In my Bdsp Nuzlocke (that I lost) Fell stinger. My Moveset for my Drapion In my Bdsp Nuzlocke entering the league was Swords Dance, Night Slash, Cross Poison, and Double team. Spamming Swords Dance and Double team was the way I beat Lucian
@@SableJem That's also a possibility, or give it something like Earthquake or Brick Break for coverage. I don't do Nuzlockes but I used Drapion a lot in Pokémon Reborn, which is hard as fuck. Now I'm also using it in Pokémon Rejuvenation, and also Alolan Muk, which is also hard as fuck. Both are hard carried my ass through the games
Fighting types unfortunately have a lot to compete with: finding a better fighting type than Infernape, several types they're weak to, & Staraptor being common and getting close combat so it actually could replace a fighting type
It's not just infernape it's the guaranteed lucario that really makes their lives difficult, plus how sinnoh was made with no fairy type for its encounter balance and lucario and infernape are the only ones that isn't an issue with.
@@nifdoowo not really a guaranteed Lucario if you are like me and can’t make the damn Rilou like you at all
@@gamerguy232 Just get a soothe bell and you're good to go.
@@issackim6918 I do have it and I got him to level 25 and he still hates me
@@gamerguy232 run around with him following you for 40 mins, easy.
My biggest gripe with these games is that a good chunk of the better evolutions we were given are notably absent from the base game.
Gen 4 gave us Rhyperior, Electivire, Magmortar, Froslass, Gallade, Probopass, etc. And you can only get these Pokémon either in the post-game or the underground, which is so much wasted potential!
Underground is still okay cz you get those during main story, but Gliscor is impossible to get without completing the game.
gen 4 introduced over a dozen evolutions to old pokemon. the only ones you can get before the post game are roserade, weavile and mismagius or honchkrow depending on what version you're on.
It's weird cos all the new baby pokemon, chingling, bonsly, munchlax, mantyke, mime jr, budew and happiny are all available before the national dex even though theyre way less liked than the new evolutions.
gen 4 had some weird design choices.
Magnezone
@@sarthakkhare9843 some pokemon like tangrowth and the eeveelutions straight up aren’t in the game until nat dex. Gliscor and Dusknoir are also postgame exclusive, even though gligar and duskull can be caught early on??? Honestly this is the most stupid thing about these games
@Kevin Jackson There's this rule in place that Pokemon games just have to suck. Unless it's Legends of Arceus, it cannot be good.
If this game had the move tutor like Platinum this list would be so different. Like Rampardos gets fire and thunder punch and Rapidash gets Heat Wave. It's insane how much better Platinum is to base Diamond and Pearl.
For Rapidash, it still has a lackluster special attack stat. If it had a better physical move pool, it would be better.
Wait why do you want heat wave on rapidash instead of flamethrower?
Less power and it can miss. The range for doubles is not a thing to consider
@@mattimeikalainen6963 I needed a second example besides Rampardos, Rapidash was the first mon I thought of.
@@ethiopia4204 Superpower Honchkrow is a pretty good one.
Ice punch on weavile too, and you can get scizor basically as soon as you get scyther since wild bronzors hold metal coat, or you get one when you finish iron island
Gliscor is so good you can't use it before beating the League
I think it's in the Underground for BD
@@lamotou4banana383 Gligar can be found underground but Gliscor is post game only.
Yeah Gliscor beat the entire Elite 4 and champion in Platinum with Swords dance and Earthquake
@@lamotou4banana383 razor fang is post game
@@lamotou4banana383 glilgar is but the item to evolve it is post game sadly
Gyarados in Nuzlockes is just the main protagonist for every run.
And if it dies there's like 10 other fishing spot to get it
I personally got a Abomasnow late game just for Cynthia. I just set up trick room, sent out Abomasnow and just annihilated Cynthias team, 100% accuracy blizzard is just insane...
What team did you use?
I'm upset Kricketune is F tier. I used it to sweep Cynthia. Swarm Metronome holding kricketune with a double team, swords dance, substitute, and x-scissor. The worst type ever and in his F tier. And I distroyed Cynthia with it. By the time I got to garchomp I had a substitute still up and x scissor had an extreme metronome bonus and was completely swords danced, it missed the substitute and I one shot the Garchomp :) it was level 64 by the end of it all
@@Dreana77 i think thats more of a testimony of how broken SD and substitutes are than anything else
@@Jefstito true
@@Dreana77 evasion boosting moves are off limits fir a hard-core nuzlocke
Did a hardcore nuzlocke myself, and I gotta say that Pelipper carried my whole team so many times. Mystic Water rain boosted STAB Surf just does so much damage, and it's tanky as well. I got lucky and got a bold nature one, but after I entered the hall of fame I checked its IVs and it was decent at best. I recommend everyone to definitely give it a try!
Yeah I was honestly surprised he rated it so low, boosted water moves and good physical bulk should be enough to make it at least B tier imo. Obviously it’s a lot worse without drizzle that goes without saying
Potentially rain-boosted STAB Hurricane and Roost as level up moves don’t hurt either
Ive used a Pachirisu in a Nuzlocke. It should be able to kill a Gyrados by using discharge with a magnet, right? No, it did a third then got one shot with giga impact.
another good point about starly evolution line, is that he learns powerfull moves ver early, like wing attack at lvl 9 .
I caught that little fucker and thought what the hell is this going to do. 30 levels later it's a freakin eagal.
Actually Jan, after realizing that my Unown encounter actually had the Hidden Power: Fighting I kept it around for a while, smacked a Metronome on it, and even watched it manhandle Byron before eventually dying off to an unfortunate crit in the snow later on in-game. I still miss the little dude.
Never would've thought I'd ever be sad about losing a gawddamn Unown, buddy turned out to be surprisingly useful for an F-tier lmao
What letter was it?
what letter did u get
what letter was the unown?
SHAY PLEASE WE WANNA KNOW
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SHAY, ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!
So fun fact about my underleveled Chatot. I gave it the Metronome item combined with Chatter. Literally swept nearly the entire elite four with it including Cynthia.
I will say, on my casual play through, Girafig was pretty solid against Team (Galactic?). With thunderbolt it basically had perfect coverage against all their mons. Also learns nasty plot so was a decent sweeper with a Sitrus Berry 🤷
Damn I’m gonna try that now
Never used one. Personally, I just dont really like its design and the fact that it doesn't evolve
Sounds like a devastating strat though
Drapion is so nuts with black sludge plus battle armor. Defensive Mon 110 def, 90 atk, 90 speed so it's fast for a defensive Mon, has fell stinger and swords dance. Eats phys moves, can set up sweep slower teams, 1 weakness, 1 immunity. It's so crazy and it had knock off for the competitive move sets w/held items in this game which imo raises it's viability. Such a good encounter only problem is it's late evo, but if you go to certain zones it's like 50-60% chance to encounter for your grand underground encounter.
Considering my Drapion swept Cynthia with ease, you probably have a point
Honestly even with sniper, its still insane. Give it a scope lens and just watch it crit through everything. Any defensive set up mons just get absolutely shredded.
@@kevinzhang8643 Sniper drapions are my favorite. Since I don't normally nuzlocke I usually go for sniper + scope lens. Combine that with moves like night slash and cross poison (both have increased crit chance already) and it basically crits every move...
I was laughing at most the game with black sludge Drapion and I only got Sniper (which ain't as stronk as it was back then, 2x instead of 3x crit damage).
He absorbs pois and dark no probs, psychic too and just about everything else minus ground xD
@@kevinzhang8643 Not just defensive set up mons- because happiness and affection are the same stat in this game, if your Drapion wuvs you enough, its crit rate is doubled. The chance to crit BEFORE this doubling if you're at +2 crit rate (due to, say, holding a scope lens and using a STAB Night Slash or STAB Cross Poison) is 50%. Do the math.
the affection mechanic is SO busted, my super luck honchkrow currently has ~100% crit ratio with night slash XD
not 100% unfortunately. but i’ve only seen it not crit once so it may as well be ❗️❗️
@@grey7271 agree, though i'm still waiting for it to not crit XD. can't wait to get a razor claw for that mf 😂 wicked blow bdsp style
@@justinreignmaquelc.dalisay9493 oh my god i completely forgot about razor claw once i equip it that thing will always crit i’m sure
Bruh thats insane dude 🤣
Honchkrow with max affection/friendship with Super Luck and a Razer Claw was my ticket to success in gen 7. Ultra Necrozma, I saw many people struggle with. I killed it turn one with Sucker Punch because Honchkrow crit it. And he just kinda did that all the time regardless.
One thing worth mentioning about Lumineon it’s that it has access to Storm Drain and Aqua Ring which seems redundant but it can completely wall Cynthia’s Milotic, I ended up stalling that thing, getting recovery as it’s ice beam barely does anything, mirror coat is easily played against and it’s other 2 moves can’t touch you, if you end up pp stalling it. Milotic will be forced to use scald which will boost your special attack effectively making lumineon able to ohko both Lucario and Garchomp ( Cynthia will eventually change into Roserade in abou 5-6 turns so Lumineon having access to U Turn can give you great pivot use)
She... didn't switch out once she ran out of moves that could hurt you? Her switching AI was pretty impressive when my brother and I fought her.
@@athath2010 she switched twice, gastrodon and roserade but once they were KO’d she stayed with Milotic
This is sage advice since I tried to use Roserade against Cynthia and got OHKO’d by her first ice beam
24:33 and then there is the Drapion i caught on a whim during my playthrough. Its jolly and its faster then my Infernape
LOVE the format of this tier list video! Keep it up brother! Been watching since 40k!!!
“Don’t worry about why Twitch chat is laughing at me about that Pokémon right now”
Hmm… I wonder why… which trainer in this game has a Medicham
Also I have to add the obligatory #fuckMindy
@@Woodenfan YESSIR
16:48 -I got a Scizor before post game, but that was going somewhat out of the way to get Scyther in the underground and use super luck to get a metal coat off of a Bronzor- and also trade it when I met up with a friend
Clefable: S-tier (Since she got the Fairy-type, she'll be a Garchomp killer) (Giving a Kebia Berry to stop Garchomp dead in its tracks)
Squoop (Gastrodon): A-tier (Fun to use, cute, and perfect Water/Ground-type)
Garchomp: Pokemon Platinum is still difficult, but gives you a Gible early on in Wayward Cave. Garchomp is way better in Generation 4 without fairies.
*sees Sqoop* I understood that reference
@@TheRibottoStudios same haha
@@TheRibottoStudios r.i.p. squoop
squoop? wait its that a reference to Jaiden's gastrodon in her platinum nuzlocke?
I named my shellos that in respect
Did you take into account the new pickup tables for pachirisu? You can use pachirisu to get early shiny/dawn/dusk stones, so you could semi reliably provided you get the encounters have a roserade pre gym 2. The drop rates on the stones are pretty decent actually. Same with Mismagius/honchcrow
Pachirisu is way too low on this list, hes definitely not amazing but hes not bad, stats are actually good/decent for the early/mid game and hes got lots of utility as well as decent speed. Should be upper C tier at minimum and probably B tier imo
@@ZzShy electric is also a pretty good pivot to bait ground moves if you need to bring in a levitate/flying mon, use pachirisu to bait a ground move to get intimidate off with a staraptor
This is the reason I like getting Zigzagoon in Hoenn. Even more than Belly Drum Linoone, just being able to get such good items so early in the game, or get a bunch Nuggets for money, is ridiculously useful.
@@ZzShy Exactly. Pachirisu is way better than Jan gave it credit for.
I will not take this Pachirisu slander
there are like 5-6 different sections of the underground that are separated from each other, so i would probably count each as their own new encounter to add a bit of variety to the run
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Ambipom is actually super good with Technician. It gets a ton of really nice technician boosted moves, like dual chop, thief, aerial ace, and double hit
Imagine with the addition of fairy types for bdsp makes clefairy go S now that Fairy is super affective to dragons and spiritomb
This vid showed up at the right time, as I was trying to figure out who I want on my team. Thanks man!
i just love watching your manscaped sponsor skits, like, it's funny af
Jan: 22:17 “Really good against Cynthia, cause it keeps her two really powerful water types in check”
Me: gets one shot by Milotic with mirror coat
Oh wow, Cynthia for my Roserade never used Mirror coat
Then buy some better rng
@@physicsismelody5581 WYM I already won and stated Roserade never got hit by Mirror coat
@@juniperjahir38 I think they were replying to OP
@@juniperjahir38
Yeah, like the person above me said. I think they're replying to Mr.Own
Seeing this I’m suddenly a lot more confident in my current hardcore nuzlocke team of gyarados, gastrodon, crobat, empoleon, roserade, and clefable
Damn,that's a good team,with half of them in this tier list's S Tier,one of those 3 being the best in the whole game
I find it hilarious that you have 3 water tyes and that team is still extremely powerful lmfao
@@AndresGonzalez-dw4ni well, the gyarados knew rain dance so it just made all them better
@@blaziken77mw49 yeah i agree. Its just you know, normally you want to avoid repeating types. But here is an example of how abilities and secondary typings just nullify that
thanks for the tier list pc, this is real helpful
Just wondering if you would include the available Pokemon in the underground for example ralts and magnemite that you can catch before the 2nd gym
He probably didnt because you can get sneasel with ice punch on the undergrpund aka a egg move so he probably didnt research that part
@@bernag1999
Doesn't he in only co sider regular encounters?
Underground is pretty neato, but also quite expansive so yeah it makes sense he missed the egg move sneasels etc.
I also agree with him for Nuzlocke's and how Underground can give you a big edge with already-levelled/evolved pokemon (like Houndoom) kind of shit on some of the other types.
I got early Skorupi and Quagsire and was laughing.
Underground is wild. Got a lvl42 magnemite and so I got a magnezone like 5 minutes later
@@bernag1999 He said at the beginning of the video that he wasn't counting underground 'mons because there are so many and because the GU interacts with the Nuzlocke ruleset a bit weirdly.
I always loved best girl Vespiquen, so it's sad to see her not ranked, but it's obviously understandable why.
I feel like this is the right place to comment this, I unintentionally started my first nuzlock in Brilliant Diamond. I realized after I got to the first gym that I had followed the encounter rules and now I’m wondering if I finish the game like this, I even had my first death and boxed a geodude.
I also started a nuzlocke in brilliant diamond. No grinding and I stayed a consistent 10 ish levels higher than the opposing trainers until around the 5th gym. In addition, everything was going swimmingly until I lost female combee butterfree and zubat to a random geodudes that 1 shot them right before the 3rd gym :C.
You can go for a full nuzlock but if this is your first one, I'm warning you now: *you are going to have a bad time with the Elite Four and Cynthia.*
But I don't want to be a pessimist, you can do it! Just focus hard, play smart, prepare your Pokemon, don't underestimate your opponents AND DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POKEMON LEAGUE!!! Plan especially hard for Garchomp because he can singlehandedly DESTROY a run.
Beware the fighting gym, have something for her final Pokemon or you're in trouble! I reckon Torterra and Monferno/Infernape should be fine, Empoleon care a bit
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi personally I came up with a rule for my nuzlockes when nuzlocking the game for the first time that I have the ability to revive a single Pokemon throughout the playthrough as to lower grinding and frustration from rng antics
that pokemon mystery dungeon music from the begining really brought back memories. AWESOME VIDEO!!
I was shocked when I saw Gyarados learn Waterfall in my run and ngl it went on rampage through out the entire game and that was before it learned Dragon Dance(which was also the reason I even defeated Cynthia)
I would like this more with having the tier and list visible, I like to stare at the Pokémon and ask myself "Ooo where will that go?!"
I didn't nuzlocke, but I'm still really happy with my strategy for fighting Cynthia: Snorlax with Belly Drum and Substitute while holding Leftovers. This mon single handedly took down Cynthia's Milotic and tanked a +2 Earthquake from Garchomp. He didn't take Garchomp down but he did do about 75% of its HP. Also, Drapion is OP in this game with the affection boosts because when you combine it with Razor Claw/Scope Lens you end up critting about 70% of the time and it just melts your opponent's HP bar.
snorlax good pokemon
Also, holding a scope lens and using a high crit rate move (like STAB Night Slash or STAB Cross Poison) gives you a crit rate of 50%. Having a high happiness stat (which got merged with affection in this game) DOUBLES that to **100%**. Battle Armor is the better Drapion ability for Nuzlocking, but Sniper is no slouch.
@@athath2010 I'm not sure its 100%, I definitely didn't crit every time. Maybe my Drapion isn't quite at MAX happiness yet then.
I’d love a rehash of his previous tier lists with this much depth. Perhaps for each game like how this is specifically for bdsp
2:49 I'll concede that Pachi is not made for raw damage output... but if you end up with one, it can be a great supporting mon. The Pickup table in this game is great (depending on how strict you are on items the kind/amount of utility changes; early-ish stone evos and eventual bottlecaps if you keep it, could sell any potions/revives for extra cash), Pachi has higher defenses than you may expect so it may actually (depending on the opponent/hit of course) live if you sac it off, and you can get plenty of utility from nuzzle+volt switch when catching/to keep momentum. It's not a heavy hitter but exceeded my expectations.
Exactly. Pachirisu is a fantastic support mon with Charm, Nuzzle, Light Screen, and Volt Switch (at least that was my moveset) and high defenses, so it's not living a Earthquake obviously but it can tank a lot of normal hits and sometimes super effective when it's not STAB. I'm biased obviously but I would at least put it in C, it's highly underestimated especially with the low amount of Electric types in Sinnoh naturally.
Pachirisu is mostly useless for battling, BUT Nuzzle and Super Fang (which it gets at decent levels) definitely help, especially for catching Pokemon, and Pick Up as an ability isn't great obviously but can be nice to have for money or item farming.
I thought it was going to drag me down significantly, but it turned out to be incredibly useful. Still can't OHKO a lot of Pokemon it should be able to, though.
Nuzzle and Super Fang is actually two of the moves Sejun used when he won the VGC a few years ago (along with Follow Me and Protect). Also, if you think Pachirisu is useless, you clearly haven't watched Marriland's Platinum Nuzlocke when Ninjarisu was pretty good. It also just occurred to me that Jan hasn't watched it either, judging by where he put it. Both of you really underestimate Pachirisu. A lot. Pachirisu is much better than either of you give it credit for.
@@heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 it’s c tier at best, it is still trash and VGC is completely different from nuzlockes
@@Nexpeon The Marriland point still stands, so Pachirisu is still better than you lot give it credit for.
@@heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 I agree it’s better than it was in this video however it still sucks ass and has little to no use, no bulk no attacking capability other than super fang and the only thing it is really decent at is using its speed to nuzzle or charm
@@Nexpeon Little to no use? Excuse me? Did you not see Marriland's Platinum Nuzlocke? Ninjarisu was pretty good.
As someone with Gyarados as their favorite mon, I am so happy. Dragon Rage, Ice Fang, Aqua Tail, Rain Dance, Intimidate, man it's just awesome. I will never get bored of catching and raising Magikarp and sweeping with Gyarados. D-Dance has been such a life-saver for me; I feel so safe knowing I can just pull it out and sweep if I'm in a pinch
best intro for the ad
didnt skip ahead. u deserved the audience retention on that period of time
The beginning of that sponsorship is was the best thing! Got a good chuckle!
I would love to see a nuzlocke playthrough with only F and D tier pokemon
Legit during my playthrough of BDSP when my Magikarp evolved into a Gyarados, I used it in one battle and it learned Waterfall on level-up I did a double-take.
I love videos that include both Pokémon rankings and ball trimming !!!
That Clefable description just rocked my world. Only issue is if you encounter a dark type with it.
Great list.
Gyrados and Crobat are some of my favorite mons.
THERE SHOULD BE 2 A'S IN GYARADOS!
1:31
You can actually restart the game while in the fight with the combee to reroll its gender.
The pokemon from the honey tree won’t change, but the gender can.
That ain't a nuzlocke mate
@@Thunterise nuzlockes can be whatever you want 🤷♂️ its all about a personal challenge so if you want to allow re rolling the gender, then you can. Its up to you
@@Thunterise it’s kinda similar to how you can in some pokemon games manipulate rng so you can dodge spinning trainers easier. Besides all it does is give you more options to play with.
@@zacharybancroft747 In that case, can we also allow re-rolling the pokemon?
@@vindifference bro if you want. Who cares? The point of a nuzlocke is to make the game more fun. If rerolling mons is more fun for you then go for it
The pokemon mystery dungeon music... thanks for putting that in!
One good thing about Pachirisu from my playthrough: Pickup. I managed to find a Shiny Stone and a Dusk Stone before the second gym through Pickup.
Weavile is my favorite Pokémon, and he has so much potential,but unfortunately, in this game,he can learn good physical ice moves only with breeding and eggs moves. In sword and shield,it was very easy to give a Pokémon an egg move without breeding,but in this game, since it's a "faithful remake", the only way to get a Pokémon with egg moves,is with breeding...making this difficult to use Weavile in a nuzlocke. Ice shard is a priority move,and with an heart scale,is easy to get,but 40 power is not enough to be considered a good move to use against the elite 4 in a nuzlocke, but his dark typing and beat up makes him decent enough,and you can teach him sword dance with the tm you can buy in the very early game (setting sword dance makes ice shard a fantastic move -> priority move, + 2 attack with sword dance used for the first 3 turns, stab move -> same type = more damage).
Very good against dragon and psychic type,with a sword dance strat .
It's possible to find wild Pokémon with decent egg moves in the Grand Underground. I was able to catch a Sneasel with Ice Punch and another one with Throat Chop.
@@corverus127 yeah,that's true,but for a nuzlocke,I wouldn't even consider catching Pokémon in the underground.
The underground is perfect for competitive,casual play,and completing the Pokédex, but for a nuzlocke,it doesn't feel right to me.
Plus, it's already so fast so priority moves like ice Shard most of the time is just useless
We all knew where Gyarados was gonna be, didn't we?
I can't wait to see where Togekiss and others fall on this tier list when considering underground pokemon as potential encounters.
Nice list buddy, just finished my own hardcore lock of SP and it went fairly well due to my watching your videos. Only really messed up on Cynthia, made a bad call and got swept, thankfully my gastrodon and held on with 8hp, managed to win after that. Enjoy your holidays, bud.
Genuinely interested in hearing how spiritomb stacks up. Yes its incredibly tedious and time consuming to encounter, but if you choose to take the time to farm NPCs underground, it can be a guaranteed encounter. I used one on my casual playthrough of BD.
I mean it’s gotta be better than every route 209 encounter besides Chansey (which you get for free in Hearthome so no reason to go after it in the wild). I’d say it’s easily A tier, only 1 very uncommon weakness with great stats and learnset
I will never forget my Cherrim one-shotting everything on Bertha's team with Sunny Day/Solar Beam. She should at least be in high C tier for being able to solo an Elite Four member.
These are definitely your best videos
Back to back uploads pog
So I’m doing my first nuzlocke on this game now, it’s taking me a little longer than most because of work but so far I’ve only lost 1 (crobat) and I just got the steel badge. Picked turtwig. I am useing the jirachi just because I thought it would be cool to actually use one. Had a couple close calls so far. Didn’t expect perma death influence the way I played this much, it’s kinda refreshing. But yes ty for the tier list I was curious if my mons sucked or not
I like the new style for this tier list-video. It's a lot more structured than your old vids.
I did a hardcore run on brilliant diamond and the way I handled the underground was to mine until I found a fossil. This, of course, was a cranidos. Which is a mon that I had no experience with. I had NO IDEA how garbo its learnset was. Like no usable rock moves til it was well leveled up at the end of the game. I had to teach it rock tomb and make due with a sub/rock polish/ attack set for a long time. Would not recommend.
omg iv never laughed that much at a sponsorship transition, 10/10 S++ tier
My final team in my casual run was Pacharisu (F) Lumineon (C) Abomasnow (B) Sudowoodo (B) Honchcrow (B) and Bronzong (A), ranked alot higher than I thought tbh
16:45 scizor isn’t post game you can get him before the second gym by thiefing bronzor in wayward cave or underground. Also 22:10 you don’t get roserade late u can get shiny stones from pick up farming with a bunch of pachirisu and evolve before the second gym as well even tho u shouldn’t cuz u want giga drain
Where do you get Scyther?
@@zacharybancroft747 Scyther is in the grand underground.
Ah ok I think jan didn't count underground cuz by most rule sets the underground would only count as one encounter and scyther is rare. Kinda for the same reason he didn't count a lot of honey tree pokemon
@@zacharybancroft747 yea he didn’t count it but he still says that it’s post game and it’s not
@@zacharybancroft747 yea he didn’t count it but he still says that it’s post game and it’s not
literally the only sponsor spot i haven't skipped, and thats coz it was hilarious
Loved it how you announced the sponsor of the video! It cracked me up!
It makes me so happy to see Mamoswine getting some love. It is without a doubt my favorite Pokémon
And yes this is supposed to be a joke. I’m so sad
Fabulous, I was just about to start doing the dishes
The dishes can wait
@@crypticutopia7228 they meant that they will listen to this while doing dishes.
jan putting more effort into the ball deodorant ad than the tier list and im loving it
Idk why but that mystery dungeon music makes me feel so chill lol
Girafarig isn't sweeping Fantina but it 1v1s Gengar very safely, you just have to bait the shadow claw
If you have a steel type as well you can free switch to it against Mismagius and 1v1 it, since for some reason its only stab move is physical...
thats the best sponsor transition i've ever seen
true
my boi getting big, enjoy yah life brah, i love to see it
Kriketune needs one acknowledgement: it's the only Pokemon before the national dex that gets Sticky Web. Your opponents can get really, really, *really* fast in this game so a free -1 speed can make some strats possible.
You forgot togekiss , easily s class with new fairy typing and serene grace boosted ancient power and air slash
Togepi is only gotten from the underground, and he excluded underground only Pokemon.
I remember the other video you had a stupid segway like this. I was wrong, this one was even sillier and I love it.
One more thing about Empoleon: it's got crazy coverage moves. Surf/charm/grass knot/flash cannon Empoleon carried me through the Elite 4. Only downside is that Flash Cannon is the only special steel type move you can teach it. For Nuzlocking purposes, it learns Rest, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Rain Dance, Protect, etc. Hell, it can even set up rocks if you wanted it to
Pachirisu in F Tier
Me: Sitting here with a Pachirisu that two Shot Gyarados with Nuzzle knowing I could use Electro Ball instead "This is fine."
Me and luxury
Pachirisu should be ranked higher since it gets Pickup, which allows you to get early Dusk Stones for Honchkrow and Mismagius.
Kricketune’s early game performance is why it should be at least raised to D
Also, by your rules Carnivine shouldn’t be included because it’s only in the Great Marsh binoculars
Love your videos man!
I think I prefer one new underground encounter after each gym since that’s 8 encounters but spread out but combined with when you enter a room just close your eyes so it’s still kind of random
We need to see an F tier only run
I love how these games still gate off final evolutions for post game. So fun for team diversity. I guess I won’t be using gliscor then. Yay.
Or evee
Crazy how I was just watching the "Pokemon Challenges ranks gen 4 Pokemon" video a hour ago for my BDSP nuzlocke
I wish you included rare mons from trees, too... Nice video though, love these :)
Completely untrue. While I wasn't doing a Nuzlock, Pachirisu was still my most valuable member of my team.
It absolutely DESTROYED Wake's Gyrados in one hit with Spark. As a matter of fact using Nuzzle and Super Fang was very useful and Pachirisu was bulky enough to take 1 hit without even loosing half of my health. It was very useful against most water types in the game and all the Golbats Team Galactic kept using.
Granted during the end game it was harder to manage using it.
base 45 atk/sp. atk moment
@@athath2010 early to mid game he's really good
@@athath2010 it is not an offensive pokémon. It is a support one, so who caras about atk and sp.atk?
you probably overlevelled your pachirisu quite a bit then, since spark should never kill gyarados when on same level or below. Even 2-3 levels higher it wouldn't. Not saying you can't overlevel.
Sneasel can get ice punch in the underground (egg moves on the underground Pokémon is an awesome addition in bdsp). Though, since underground Pokémon weren’t used for this list, sneasel/Weavile isn’t that great at all as you said, but not bad.
A cool idea for a video would be to list from worst to best type to use in each region. Could give an idea as to what type can make the region super easy or difficult.
I'm glad I was there for the initial brainstorming, super fun time
Imma go cry. Chatot is my ace in my regular run. Chatter and Hypervoice, Parting shot and Roost, is amazing, don't @ me
Just so many better choices. Not a terrible mon, but gets outdone by so many other flying types
Ehh, it’s your game, if you like Chatot and it’s working, then use it! You don’t always have to worry about what’s “optimal” especially in an easier game like bdsp
@@alexhoehn8123 Wasn't really meant serious. I'm close to winning the game without grinding once or catching specific mons. I basically need special attackers other than Palkia
@@itzsquishy3712 way I see it, how much you like a mon can play into whether you use it or not
@@djroscurro9859 yeah I’m just saying what Jan said pretty much, I agree, use whatever you want, but in terms of viability he’s obviously not the greatest