I cried when I realized that after almost 35 years, we're finally getting the goodbye between the Doctor and Ace we never got when the BBC cancelled the original run of the show.
😭😭😭that’s made me sad you saying that. I’ve suffered from bad depression in the last few years and almost wasn’t around from doing a few stupid things. I would’ve hated that I’d not be here and not seen the classics return cos it was my number 1 wish to see. I’m so glad I am here to see it. Knowing that your parents passed away during covid breaks my heart 😭💔 me > 🫂❤ They’d of loved it 🙏❤️🫂
@@MrCdawson17 Yes, they would have loved it, my mum would have loved the new downton movie, my father liked tng, so he missed picard. it is stuff like this that makes me sad. I know the feeling too. They are never truly gone as long as we remember them.
@@darrenc2721 I will always think of them as well for you when I watch these scenes. It annoys me when Moffat makes excuses to not bring them back in the 50th, cos actors might not be around anymore, or fans won’t be, to then see the returns. That’s why Chibnall means so much to me now for doing this, which is probably their last chance before it’s too late. Your parents would be proud of you. I can tell you’re a decent person. They must’ve been great people to bring you up the way you are and 90% of Doctor Who fans are the nicest people I’ve ever known.
You could make an entire episode of just previous doctors meeting their companions. No plot, no threats, just conversations like these. Might be the most-watched episode in the entire history of the show.
McCoy's line "all children leave home sooner or later , the joy is to watch them fly" hit me in the feels ! Takes me back when the Doctor goodbye to Susan.
In my mind McCoy's Doctor always got the best monologues, not because he'd shout them, but because it was more like he was talking to himself, figuring out the analogy in his head as it came out of his mouth. Seven was truly a philosopher, however he seemed to take more influence from 'The Art Of War' than anything else lol.
Chibnall came up with that line as a very personal nod to the fact that his son went to university during the time he was writing the episode. He included it because he felt it suited the scene between Seven and Ace in that lovely father/daughter relationship they had back in the day ❤
Yes, I remember when thew first Dr said good-bye to his granddaughter, so she could have a life with the boy she met, to me it was sad, I am still hoping he will come back to visit her.
@@55Quirll BigFinish has audiobooks of Eight and Lucie Miller meeting up with Susan and her son Alex…it’s in the Lucie Miller Doctor Who series…and this next year it looks like there is going to be another audiobook with Eight and Alex! And Cass from Night of the Doctor is somehow going to be a companion too! (Prior to Night of the Doctor obviously) Alex is actually voiced by Paul McGann’s sons (the newest Eight and Alex audiobook seemingly has Alex being voiced by his other son)
@@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo Saw him at a con last month. Only reason I didn't meet him is I barely saw any of his run, so I didn't have a baseline for meeting him.
0:54 I love how his hologram effect turns off for a couple seconds, and his voice turns clear, and he seems like he’s really there, that was really sweet
My headcanon/wish is that it was actually them, able to speak to their companions one last time due to the Regeneration shenanigans going on in the episode playing wonky with the emitter and their emotions.
@@pkmn1260 Arguably it *is* them - this is a virtualisation of The Doctor - and The Doctor is *all* the Doctors - they are just a specific piece of The Doctor's timeline.
I'm so glad they addressed Adric. You can see when she's on the call with Ace how upset Tegan is that the Doctor might have purposefully sent her a reminder of such a traumatic event. These current events put her right back mentally in that time and place, and thankfully the Doctor acknowledges it.
I love seeing Tegan and the 5th Doctor. Him mentioning Adric hit me in the feelings. Seeing Ace reconnect with the 7th was simply fantastic. It's a shame Peri wasn't there.
@@FlagadossSupreme Adric was a young lad who travelled with the 5th Doctor at the same time as Tegan and another young girl, Nyssa. He famously died as the first on screen TARDIS inhabitant death of the classic era in a Cyberman story called ‘Earthshock’
“I never forget any of you. I remember everything” That calls back to when 10 visited every companion before he regenerated. And I mean every single one.
Always liked Seven and Ace's dynamic. In her I think he saw the same rebellious spirit and firey passion he once had and sought to channel it. Help her avoid the brash missteps and prideful mistakes he made. And in him I think she saw a measure of hope for herself. The example that outsiders like her could indeed survive and thrive. Of course they'd butt heads. Him trying to reign her in where he could and her trying to get him to cut loose when necessary. But they were, at their core, the same person. The same troublemakers who ultimately just want to do right. And that last line cemented it. "We're Ace." As in "Together, we're unstoppable."
I never really took to Seven. But I kept watching because Ace was such a good character. A friend and I agreed that in our opinion she was carrying the show. Shortly after that a BBC continuity announcer introduced an episode with "And now, Doctor Who starring Sophie Aldred and Sylvester McCoy".
@@zacmumblethunder7466 All intentional. McCoy would deviate lines to Sophie, giving her more to do, and the entire bulk of S25 and S26 hinges purely on Ace's growth, rather than the Doctor, who was destined for an arc in S27 leading to his regeneration, which never came to pass. They are very close friends in reality and got on like a house on fire during their run, and a LOT of their acting and dynamic is very emotive. The way they look at each other, the faces they pull, how the Doctor and Ace keep taking the wind out of eachother's sails, etc. They're a definitive 'team' - if you take one away from the other, it's simply not as good.
Despite all the stupid things Chibnall pulled, he actually managed to do something great here. Giving Tegan and Ace the closure they’ve needed all these years was touching, to say the least.
The mention of Adric and use of the phrase "brave heart" were nice. Also, wow...Ace's voice hasn't changed one iota. The old scene of ace hitting a dalek with some sort of electrically charged bat is unforgettable. I'm assuming that's the bat she has slung across her back.
If I recall correctly, that particular metal baseball bat used against the Daleks was shattered. This is probably a different one, or maybe it got repaired. Who nose?
Damn, I wonder what it would've been like to have Ace return as a companion to the Thirteenth Doctor with Yasmin/Ryan, bringing a sense of experience and history that would provide both a sense of mentorship for the others as well a bit of conflict between her and the Doctor, but also allow them to mend thier relationship in the end (as seen here). Hell, Ace's return as a companinon would have also explored storylines from her time in Big Finish (Braxiatel, the Celestial Intervention Agency, her later adventure with the Seventh Doctor). The possibilities are endless.
@@charlesburgess4511 Never would have worked. 13 is a preachy hypocrite with a really arbitrary and bad moral code, who is neurotic and incompetent in ways no Doctor should be. Putting Ace next to 13 would just serve to demonstrate how much they screwed up 13, as the first female Doctor. The show is full of competent, confident female characters. Ace being chief among them. Maybe a little too much for her own good, even. See, the thing about Ace, is that she's very much like the Doctor in certain ways. They butt heads because they're both headstrong and competent. 13 is not competent, and is only headstrong in the worst ways.
as a father the line Sylester McCoy delivers about " All children leave Home sooner or later, the joy is to watch them fly" hit differently now as My kids are getting to that age!
It's a media-luvvy-cool wishful view of reality, that has become big time untrue in the neocon economy era since 1980. Far from all leave home, many can never afford to, many just find it rational to stay. The alternative comedy cool culture to scoff at them is a useful fool helping the forces of economic oppression, and causes some homelessness outcomes entirely preventably just by the evil of peer pressure.
Not only was it lovely to see these guys together again, I think this scene really emphasises that it's always The Doctor. We may lose our Doctor, but they're always there, they're always The Doctor. 😢❤️❤️
I have never been able to get this point across to my wife. When she lost her first Doctor she never went back. Was actually a bit annoyed that they took a character she had devoted so much emotional energy into lol
@@glenchapman3899 its always hard to lose your first doctor, i stopped watching for years after 11 regenerated but ive recently got more into than before, maybe she'll come around on it one day
Even a Nu-Whovian like myself who's watched very little of Old Who (pretty much just The 5 Doctors special and other bits and pieces) gets excited about these moments with the older incarnations. That proves how iconic they are.
You should definitely watch the 4th Doctor. He was as brilliant + charming as #10 and had great chemistry withTime Lady Ramona. And all the U.N.I.T. stuff was top notch.
My first Doctor was 10th but after seeing new who I decided to watch The Original series next. I’m currently on The Forth incarnation and I’m having a blast 😊
The complete gravitas and joy McCoy could put into just two words makes me so sad we never got a fourth series with him. Especially given that the last seasons just seemed to get better and better. Indeed Mr McCoy "We're Ace"
Blame star trek tng and other high budget shows.. But mc coy and gravitas are not always belonging together. He could do some powerful scenes but nearly half his stories are troubled with scripting and acting issues, and he was the worst classic doctor for anger (Davison was not so overpowering or commanding as a whole but pulled off anger or disdain pretty well)
@@martinhudecek8886 would not say half his stories were like this. His first series? sure, but it only improved from there. I also do agree that at that time he didn’t pull off anger scenes the best, but it’s a lot better in his big finish stories.
Whenever I'm feeling crap, like I am today, I stick this on and feel instantly revigorated. Peter, Sylvester, Janet and Sophie pickup the characters so seamlessly that you forget it's been 4 decades since they've portrayed these characters onscreen.
"We're more than good. We're Ace." I first started watching Doctor Who with re-runs of the 7th Doctor's run alongside Ace, so seeing these two together again for these brief moments was a callback in my soul to my childhood. I LOVED IT!!
I loved the line 7 gave Ace about children leaving home...he was a father to her even when he had manipulated her, all he cared about was Ace's safety and teaching her to be the woman she grew into
If you want to understand all the references AND enjoy a great bridge between Nu & Classic Who, watch Remembrance of the Daleks. You won't regret it. There's a lovely "Remembrance of the Daleks (Action Movie) Trailer" here on RUclips for anyone on the fence. Love the creepy vibe it has near the end.
I also only know NewWho and the acting, lines, scoring, and obvious impact the characters have on each other has made me cry every time. It’s such a powerful and well-done scene, it deserves all its flowers
I never thought I'd see any of the classic Doctors back in the modern series in this manor, (except maybe outside an anniversary special) so seeing these interactions certainly made this episode worthwhile, especially Davidson, who is my favorite classic Doctor. I hope they explore the "falling out" of Ace and the Seventh Doctor in the future, I assume Big Finish will take care of that, and I hope classic companions continue to make their returns.
@@julieeverett7442 The falling out in this is 100% not linked to the “Love is War” version. Even then ace rejoins the doctor after the events of that story.
It's super cool to have these cameos. To remember the older doctor actors and respect their contribution to the series. Always keep moving on but never forget the past.
That was a pretty nice throwback. I liked the mention of Adric to Tegan with the man I call "My Doctor" as I grew up watching Tom Baker and Peter Davidson when I was very young and watching Ace re connect with her Doctor. Bought back a lot of childhood memories.
The 7th Doctor/Ace relationship started unpromisingly with Sophie Aldred being the shoo-in 1980s teenager 'Bilgebag! Ace! Triffic!!'... and actually transformed into this really brilliant and meaningful dynamic where there was huge emotional depth. And Davison was my first ever Dr, so he's always my favourite. Loved all of this.
Power of The Doctor was great! Loved seeing all the past characters. Also loved that both Ace and Tegan got those scenes with their respective Doctors. An amazing episode!
These made me cry. I watched 4 and 5 with my mom before she died. 5 introduced me to the word "dapper " (thank you Mom). Also... when I saw Tegan and the Cybermen I thought "No, you're not taking my Tegan when I just got her back." Tegan is absolutely one of my favourites. Watching reaction videos from people that only saw New Who stuff just kind of...hurt knowing they don't know what seeing Ace, Tegan or any of the others does for us, let alone seeing their Doctors and them interact!
Imagine how I feel, about Nu Who fans who care nothing at all about even bothering to try and watch some of the 1st, 2nd or my absolute favorite, the 3rd Doctor. For my money, the 3rd Doctor didn't have a single bad story, strongest period of the show, IMO. But even though I feel personally that the 80s declined (the Doctors were fine, the writing and BBC nonsense failed them), I still thing 80s Who is still generally much better than the (IMO non-canon) Nu Who stuff. I've had friends try to explain Nu Who story threads to me, like Riversong etc. etc., and it just gives me a headache. It was very nice of them to give old actors from the original show some moments like these though. I really wish more Nu Who fans would go watch the original Who. It's a very different beast, but it sucks to me, that so many seem to not care, and only consider THIS show Who, when it barely resembles what the classic show was about.
@@Retrorevelations I can't imagine exactly your circumstance, but I also am very aggravated when people I talk Doctor Who with say they haven't seen any of the older Who. I believe that you can't fully appreciate the current without the previous generation (Doctor Who, technology etc). Having people go "oh he's having a bad Regeneration " or "they've never done that before, new creature" I get agitated and start to explain how they're wrong. Friends don't understand why I'm upset at the purge that destroyed earlier episodes since I am so young (I'm someone that is planning to be a librarian or work with old documents so I care about books, media and more being available and taken care of). I've even tried saying to people "you do realise that without the original, the First Doctor, you wouldn't have *your* Doctor?" I've stopped trying to have the discussions.
Such a powerful sequence, so well written, so well acted - the love of the two Doctors to their Companions was obvious. So nice to see Peter and Sylvester reprising their roles so perfectly, so... humanely.
I love the holographic Doctors gave their previous companions the closure. 5th Doctor gave Tegan Courage as she’s having PTSD of the Cybermen by mentioning Adric’s demise in ‘Earthshock’ and ‘Brave Heart’. 7th Doctor reconciling the fallout between him and Ace, they being ‘ACE’.
I love how, in this special, they were able to bring back previous doctors without it seeming to overshadow Jodie, if anything to me it emphasised more than other episodes with previous doctors the idea that they may be different, but they're all The Doctor. Also I loved the finale of series 13 where Jodie was interacting with herself, and it felt almost like you had other doctors there, of course there wasn't a difference in personalities, but it felt as if there were other versions on the doctor there, which is really what should be aimed for with episodes involving the doctor interacting with themselves
If you think about it while you're watching it, all the lines could be read as written by Whittaker - it's a really good example of how the Doctor is different takes on one character. Doctor Who is such a lovely concept.
What I love about power of the doctor is chibnal has allowed the previous actors who have played the doctor just to be themselves without using videos from past stories like day of the doctor did. My emotions were one of excitement and tears when David, Peter, Colin Sylvester and Paul appeared. I love Doctor Who especially classic who. Janet and Sophie were brilliant and when I saw the trailer at the end of legend of the sea devils I became really excited Ace and Tegan were back. As Ace said. Wicked.
When they had that reunion with Five and Tegan, I knew exactly what was coming next, Seven and Ace reunion. The seventh doctor was my favourite classic era doctor and by the end of the scene I was holding back tears
The 7th was always one of my favourites. And hearing him speak with Ace again, just warms my heart. (And I was introduced to Doctor Who long, long after his time as The Doctor)
I absolutely love when both of them get really emotional, their Doctor hologram looks like they're actually present in front of them, as if they're comforting them. Its so beautiful!
I love that they got to make peace with their respective Doctors ❤ Seeing Peter and Sylvester phasing made those scenes so special ❤ I love the detail that they look more substancial in the most important and beautiful moments ❤️
This has to be one of my top favorite New Who moments. Bringing back ace, Tegan and several former Doctor actors was definitely one of the best things to happen in the show
A good way to bring Sylvester and Peter back into the fold, with their friends. Wicked, indeed. Good work from Sophie and Janet as well, surprised when confronted by their Doctors. I have some of every Doctor to watch here on disc, and will be adding this episode next week. Tuesday, the 13th, appropriately, here in the US.
I have all of them, and this is now on my shelf. it was great to see their reunion. For Ace and Tegan is was 30-40 years, for the doctor it was actually over 2000 years, imagine how she felt. (and no, I did not say that wrong!!!)
I love the 7th Doctor and Ace so much. They were in the TARDIS when I started to watch the show aged 9. As much as I enjoyed seeing Peter's Doctor with Tegan (and I did, it was lovely), at some point during the scene i realised "oh my God - they're going to do the same with Sylvester's Doctor and Ace aren't they" and found I was actually crying a little in anticipation. I adore this ridiculous show.
Alright I’m just gonna say it: Power of the Doctor is what Day of the Doctor WISHED it was. A mix of old and new proper and having the companions of old return to help alongside our current run while at the same time the threat is a combined Master/Dalek/Cyberman plot which is a pretty big deal to handle for the Doctor alone. Look Matt teaming with David was cute and John hurt will ALWAYS be a godsend in what he does but Day of the Doctor was more of an episode rather than a big special. THIS!…this lives up to the glory.
So good to see Sophie and Sylvester back on the screen. One of the best Doctor Companion pairings who sadly were cut short of further on screen adventures in the original run.
This video hits way too close to home, whenever I think about whether or not I am living up to my potential, even while those who mentored me over the years (whether they be a parent, teacher or manager) took the time to interact with me because they saw something worth mentoring. Kudos for the producers for putting this episode together.
Seeing Seven and Ace again without (for the most part, with Chibnall biting that bullet due to brand oversight) without the baggage of the EU is joyous. McCoy is in high form and clearly enjoying the part more than he has in a decades.
I’ll probably never cry so much at a moment in media as I did when seeing 7/Ace back together. They weren’t my first Doctor/Companion, but they changed my world. Thank you, Sylvester & Sophie💜💜➕🟦
Silvester McCoy was my first "doctor", that's something you never forget. All the question marks were a bit "on the nose", but hey, it's the 80s... Had a blanket over my tv and headphones on so my parents wouldn't catch me staying up late, I was 8 years old and the show aired 23:30, and only on school days of course. Watched all I could, and then the series was discontinued in Germany due to "lack of interest" (what a surprise, having it air late at night shortly before end of broadcast) Over 40 now, still groving to the original theme, and the Tardis sound is my notification tone on my phone.
Adrick... you didn't have to do that but you did and I love it... also just realized for one brief moment, the 5th Doctor was like sentient when he says I missed you too. It's subtle but adds more weight to their interaction. The Secenth Doctor too when he says "we're ace." It's a good move!
I was okay with Tegan and her Doctor, but Ace and the 7th together again, that hit the feels, especially when he ended it with that little smile and him going "We're ace!", flipping awesome.
@@glenchapman3899 Seven: "Ace! Give me some of that Nitro-9 that you're not carrying!" -- Seven: "I don't suppose you completely ignored my instructions and took some Nitro-9 with you?", Ace: "Of course not! I'm a good girl and do what I'm told.", Seven: "Excellent. Blow up that vehicle!", Ace -- Smiles while blowing up a Cyber-ship.
I met Peter Davison in full costume down a back path at the 20th Anniversary Celebration at Longleat in 1983. I was 4 at the time, he was dashing to his next engagement, but still made time to shake my hand and chat to me for a few minutes on his haunches - it was a real thrill and he was absolutely delightful, such a nice chap. He'll always be my doctor and it was awesome to see him back in this story - hopefully not for the last time!
"Ace..." "Yeah?" "I don't suppose you've completely ignored my instructions and prepared any nitro-9, have you?" "... What if I had?" "Naturally, you wouldn't do anything so _insanely_ dangerous as to carry it around with you, would you?" "Of course not. I'm a good girl. I do what I'm told." "Excellent. Blow up that vehicle." - 7 and Ace, _Silver Nemesis_ (1988)
This is what we should have got for the 50th Anniversary so glad they had multiple doctors. The 5th Doctor and Teagan got me especially when he mentioned adric.
I like how all the older doctors sort of started out sounding like holograms but as it got to the end of their scenes they sounded like they had really come back and were real
I cried when I realized that after almost 35 years, we're finally getting the goodbye between the Doctor and Ace we never got when the BBC cancelled the original run of the show.
Wow. They never got a goodbye? Until now? I’m glad they got to say bye to each other. I want to watch the old series now
I like that Peter becomes less transparent and loses the effect on his voice when he says "I missed you too."
I wish my parents had seen this. They passed away during covid. To see Tegan and Ace again with their doctors, brings a tear to my eye.
Sorry for your loss
😭😭😭that’s made me sad you saying that. I’ve suffered from bad depression in the last few years and almost wasn’t around from doing a few stupid things. I would’ve hated that I’d not be here and not seen the classics return cos it was my number 1 wish to see. I’m so glad I am here to see it.
Knowing that your parents passed away during covid breaks my heart 😭💔 me > 🫂❤
They’d of loved it 🙏❤️🫂
@@MrCdawson17 Yes, they would have loved it, my mum would have loved the new downton movie, my father liked tng, so he missed picard. it is stuff like this that makes me sad. I know the feeling too. They are never truly gone as long as we remember them.
@@darrenc2721 I will always think of them as well for you when I watch these scenes. It annoys me when Moffat makes excuses to not bring them back in the 50th, cos actors might not be around anymore, or fans won’t be, to then see the returns. That’s why Chibnall means so much to me now for doing this, which is probably their last chance before it’s too late.
Your parents would be proud of you. I can tell you’re a decent person. They must’ve been great people to bring you up the way you are and 90% of Doctor Who fans are the nicest people I’ve ever known.
@@MrCdawson17 I was suprised to see ace and tegan, it was a good feeling.
When McCoy resurfaced saying “We’re Ace” was probably one of the most “wicked” moments I’ve seen from New Who
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McCoy and Ace were one of my favorite pairings…
I forgot that was a callback line and not a memed line
Thought he was going to say wicked!
My Doctor and companion ☺️
You could make an entire episode of just previous doctors meeting their companions. No plot, no threats, just conversations like these. Might be the most-watched episode in the entire history of the show.
Straight facts
I'd hate to agree with you, but I do.
Началось, Мост рухнул . Королевы больше нет
Есть мысли ,какие обстоятельства нам ожидать?
@@Gela799 Никто не знает, о чем вы говорите, мы все говорим о "Докторе Кто", так зачем менять тему на вашу извращенную политику?
I totally agree. It'd be fascinating.
McCoy's line "all children leave home sooner or later , the joy is to watch them fly" hit me in the feels !
Takes me back when the Doctor goodbye to Susan.
In my mind McCoy's Doctor always got the best monologues, not because he'd shout them, but because it was more like he was talking to himself, figuring out the analogy in his head as it came out of his mouth. Seven was truly a philosopher, however he seemed to take more influence from 'The Art Of War' than anything else lol.
Chibnall came up with that line as a very personal nod to the fact that his son went to university during the time he was writing the episode. He included it because he felt it suited the scene between Seven and Ace in that lovely father/daughter relationship they had back in the day ❤
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Yes, I remember when thew first Dr said good-bye to his granddaughter, so she could have a life with the boy she met, to me it was sad, I am still hoping he will come back to visit her.
@@55Quirll BigFinish has audiobooks of Eight and Lucie Miller meeting up with Susan and her son Alex…it’s in the Lucie Miller Doctor Who series…and this next year it looks like there is going to be another audiobook with Eight and Alex!
And Cass from Night of the Doctor is somehow going to be a companion too! (Prior to Night of the Doctor obviously)
Alex is actually voiced by Paul McGann’s sons (the newest Eight and Alex audiobook seemingly has Alex being voiced by his other son)
McCoy's raspy yet incredibly warm voice truly is one of a kind.
Radagastpy voice? 😺
@@HariSeldon913Rrrrrrrrradagastpy.
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*We're Ace*
@@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo Saw him at a con last month. Only reason I didn't meet him is I barely saw any of his run, so I didn't have a baseline for meeting him.
0:54 I love how his hologram effect turns off for a couple seconds, and his voice turns clear, and he seems like he’s really there, that was really sweet
Both of them did and I loved that details! ❤
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that, makes the words spoken by Davison - from Whittaker - have that extra impact. Same goes for McCoy too.
@@Blazer_491 yes yes yes 👏 ☺️
My headcanon/wish is that it was actually them, able to speak to their companions one last time due to the Regeneration shenanigans going on in the episode playing wonky with the emitter and their emotions.
@@pkmn1260 Arguably it *is* them - this is a virtualisation of The Doctor - and The Doctor is *all* the Doctors - they are just a specific piece of The Doctor's timeline.
I'm so glad they addressed Adric. You can see when she's on the call with Ace how upset Tegan is that the Doctor might have purposefully sent her a reminder of such a traumatic event. These current events put her right back mentally in that time and place, and thankfully the Doctor acknowledges it.
Pretty big for the Doctor too, considering the Fifth Incarnation's last word. Still imagine it sticks with the Doctor too.
Yeah I feel he still thinks about Adric
I love seeing Tegan and the 5th Doctor. Him mentioning Adric hit me in the feelings. Seeing Ace reconnect with the 7th was simply fantastic. It's a shame Peri wasn't there.
What is adric ?
@@FlagadossSupreme oof
@@FlagadossSupreme Adric was a young lad who travelled with the 5th Doctor at the same time as Tegan and another young girl, Nyssa. He famously died as the first on screen TARDIS inhabitant death of the classic era in a Cyberman story called ‘Earthshock’
@@FlagadossSupreme it’s an old character from classic doctor who
@@PhoebeClothier Actually that was in the 60's and she was called Katarina.
“I never forget any of you. I remember everything”
That calls back to when 10 visited every companion before he regenerated. And I mean every single one.
Makes me wonder if he managed to find poor Katarina before they traveled.
@@Popcultureguy3000 I’d like to think he did
Are they all just notches on a "companion-post" then?
Always liked Seven and Ace's dynamic. In her I think he saw the same rebellious spirit and firey passion he once had and sought to channel it. Help her avoid the brash missteps and prideful mistakes he made. And in him I think she saw a measure of hope for herself. The example that outsiders like her could indeed survive and thrive. Of course they'd butt heads. Him trying to reign her in where he could and her trying to get him to cut loose when necessary. But they were, at their core, the same person. The same troublemakers who ultimately just want to do right. And that last line cemented it. "We're Ace." As in "Together, we're unstoppable."
7 was ahead of his time. He acted a lot like the newer doctors and would have done great
@@edwardjames6023 Family of Blood was technically a 7th doctor story.
I never really took to Seven. But I kept watching because Ace was such a good character. A friend and I agreed that in our opinion she was carrying the show. Shortly after that a BBC continuity announcer introduced an episode with "And now, Doctor Who starring Sophie Aldred and Sylvester McCoy".
@@zacmumblethunder7466 All intentional. McCoy would deviate lines to Sophie, giving her more to do, and the entire bulk of S25 and S26 hinges purely on Ace's growth, rather than the Doctor, who was destined for an arc in S27 leading to his regeneration, which never came to pass. They are very close friends in reality and got on like a house on fire during their run, and a LOT of their acting and dynamic is very emotive. The way they look at each other, the faces they pull, how the Doctor and Ace keep taking the wind out of eachother's sails, etc. They're a definitive 'team' - if you take one away from the other, it's simply not as good.
Quite literally an Ace comment.
Very nice choice when Five tells Tegan "Missed you too" and his hologram shimmer disappears for just that line. Very nice touch of cinematography.
Despite all the stupid things Chibnall pulled, he actually managed to do something great here. Giving Tegan and Ace the closure they’ve needed all these years was touching, to say the least.
for every 10+ things he gets wrong, he gets one thing right.
@@erubin100 who are you to judge?
I feel like he put all his effort into these two scenes cause the rest of his writing is just a mess.
@@sandygrungerson1177 Pretty sure we can judge him for very low viewing numbers even during covid.
A broken clock gives the correct time twice a day.
More than thirty years later, both of those Doctors fill out their costumes quite nicely. Especially Davison.
Both were allowed to keep their newly fitted outfits. Peter has now started wearing them to conventions for photo ops, such a nice idea. :)
Once a doctor, always a doctor!
Yep, he's THAT special
@@Robotnumber9 😆
@@Robotnumber9 🤣🤣🤣🥰
The mention of Adric and use of the phrase "brave heart" were nice. Also, wow...Ace's voice hasn't changed one iota. The old scene of ace hitting a dalek with some sort of electrically charged bat is unforgettable. I'm assuming that's the bat she has slung across her back.
yes
The baseball bat powered by the Hand of Omega. 🙂
If I recall correctly, that particular metal baseball bat used against the Daleks was shattered. This is probably a different one, or maybe it got repaired. Who nose?
Damn, I wonder what it would've been like to have Ace return as a companion to the Thirteenth Doctor with Yasmin/Ryan, bringing a sense of experience and history that would provide both a sense of mentorship for the others as well a bit of conflict between her and the Doctor, but also allow them to mend thier relationship in the end (as seen here).
Hell, Ace's return as a companinon would have also explored storylines from her time in Big Finish (Braxiatel, the Celestial Intervention Agency, her later adventure with the Seventh Doctor).
The possibilities are endless.
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Never would have worked. 13 is a preachy hypocrite with a really arbitrary and bad moral code, who is neurotic and incompetent in ways no Doctor should be.
Putting Ace next to 13 would just serve to demonstrate how much they screwed up 13, as the first female Doctor. The show is full of competent, confident female characters. Ace being chief among them. Maybe a little too much for her own good, even.
See, the thing about Ace, is that she's very much like the Doctor in certain ways. They butt heads because they're both headstrong and competent.
13 is not competent, and is only headstrong in the worst ways.
2:47 7th is clear as day seems like he's really there when he says "We're Ace" I cried so much. I loved him and Ace
as a father the line Sylester McCoy delivers about " All children leave Home sooner or later, the joy is to watch them fly" hit differently now as My kids are getting to that age!
Mine saw that bit and instantly knew I would be thinking about him!
It's a media-luvvy-cool wishful view of reality, that has become big time untrue in the neocon economy era since 1980. Far from all leave home, many can never afford to, many just find it rational to stay.
The alternative comedy cool culture to scoff at them is a useful fool helping the forces of economic oppression, and causes some homelessness outcomes entirely preventably just by the evil of peer pressure.
I'm sure I read somewhere Chibnall had written that for his son who was starting University when the episode aired
"Adric"
And with that, Tegan was ready to end the entire Cyber Army
Tegan said, "This one's for you, Adric!'
@@Hodaris_Darlin That's how I felt when the Cybermen got their butts kicked by the Raston Robot in The Five Doctors.
Who's Adric?
@@stephenbyrne2170 Adric was a companion during the 5th Doctor's era who died saving Earth from being destroyed by the Cybermen.
@@mikebasil4832 It must've cut a deep scar into Tegan's heart.
"We're Ace." Damnit, god damnit no no im not gonna tear up no no...
the brave heart scene too..
I've got to stop cutting onions while watching stuff like this...
One of the most brilliant ideas from Doctor Who in years. Love that we can now bring back any previous Doctor no matter how much they’ve aged.
Well besides Matt, because of his time on Trenzalore he can come back whenever without this excuse.
@@wesleypitts3787 what do you mean trenzalore? That’s a different thing do you mean the town called Christmas on a different planet
@@justagamersquad2907 he means when the 11 aged until he was an old man and regenerated as an old man
Well it was possible to have Doctors come back older before, as we've seen with The Two Doctors and Time Crash
@@justagamersquad2907 the town called Christmas was on the planet Trenzalore
Not only was it lovely to see these guys together again, I think this scene really emphasises that it's always The Doctor. We may lose our Doctor, but they're always there, they're always The Doctor. 😢❤️❤️
I have never been able to get this point across to my wife. When she lost her first Doctor she never went back. Was actually a bit annoyed that they took a character she had devoted so much emotional energy into lol
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its always hard to lose your first doctor, i stopped watching for years after 11 regenerated but ive recently got more into than before, maybe she'll come around on it one day
So true! He is the same character that retains the memories of every regeneration.
I will not forget one line of this not one day I swear. I will always remember when the doctor was me.
Even a Nu-Whovian like myself who's watched very little of Old Who (pretty much just The 5 Doctors special and other bits and pieces) gets excited about these moments with the older incarnations. That proves how iconic they are.
My first Doctor was the fourth Doctor. 😊❤️
@@Mrs_Sugar_Min Mine was third, but 4th was and still is, my doctor
You should definitely watch the 4th Doctor. He was as brilliant + charming as #10 and had great chemistry withTime Lady Ramona. And all the U.N.I.T. stuff was top notch.
@@laikapupkino1767 and don't forget about the jelly babies!?😊😊❤️
My first Doctor was 10th but after seeing new who I decided to watch The Original series next. I’m currently on The Forth incarnation and I’m having a blast 😊
The complete gravitas and joy McCoy could put into just two words makes me so sad we never got a fourth series with him. Especially given that the last seasons just seemed to get better and better. Indeed Mr McCoy "We're Ace"
McCoy has a serious presence to him. Tom Baker was my favorite Doctor Sylvester McCoy was pretty darn cool.
Blame star trek tng and other high budget shows..
But mc coy and gravitas are not always belonging together. He could do some powerful scenes but nearly half his stories are troubled with scripting and acting issues, and he was the worst classic doctor for anger (Davison was not so overpowering or commanding as a whole but pulled off anger or disdain pretty well)
He was the only TV Doctor to have a movie, even if it did kill him off
@@nosama001 the 50th anniversary special was shown in cinemas but obviously just a well made tv episode.
@@martinhudecek8886 would not say half his stories were like this. His first series? sure, but it only improved from there. I also do agree that at that time he didn’t pull off anger scenes the best, but it’s a lot better in his big finish stories.
Whenever I'm feeling crap, like I am today, I stick this on and feel instantly revigorated. Peter, Sylvester, Janet and Sophie pickup the characters so seamlessly that you forget it's been 4 decades since they've portrayed these characters onscreen.
They’ve all been playing these characters on audio for many years. This wasn’t the first time they’d reprised them.
@@jbcatz5whilst that’s true this was the first time they’ve reprised their roles officially on screen that’s why it’s even more special
@@jbcatz5 no, I know that, been following Big Finish since the Sirens of Time, I'm just referring to seeing it on-screen
"We're more than good. We're Ace."
I first started watching Doctor Who with re-runs of the 7th Doctor's run alongside Ace, so seeing these two together again for these brief moments was a callback in my soul to my childhood. I LOVED IT!!
I loved the line 7 gave Ace about children leaving home...he was a father to her even when he had manipulated her, all he cared about was Ace's safety and teaching her to be the woman she grew into
"Brave Heart, Tegan"....
It doesn't get any better than that.....
Best moment ever....
"We are more then good, we are ace!!!" It really gives me goosebumps. And i only know newWho
You should give Ace's episodes a watch. They're mostly brilliant and one of the best places to get into older Doctor Who.
If you want to understand all the references AND enjoy a great bridge between Nu & Classic Who, watch Remembrance of the Daleks. You won't regret it.
There's a lovely "Remembrance of the Daleks (Action Movie) Trailer" here on RUclips for anyone on the fence. Love the creepy vibe it has near the end.
I also only know NewWho and the acting, lines, scoring, and obvious impact the characters have on each other has made me cry every time. It’s such a powerful and well-done scene, it deserves all its flowers
"What am I thinking seeing all these Cybermen?"
"Adric"
The pain of "Earthshock" doesn’t go away, even after 40 years.
I never thought I'd see any of the classic Doctors back in the modern series in this manor, (except maybe outside an anniversary special) so seeing these interactions certainly made this episode worthwhile, especially Davidson, who is my favorite classic Doctor. I hope they explore the "falling out" of Ace and the Seventh Doctor in the future, I assume Big Finish will take care of that, and I hope classic companions continue to make their returns.
It could be linked to the doctor trying to make ace a time lord.
There’s a book written by the actor who plays Ace called At Childhood’s End
the falling out happened in Big Finish go there to listen
big finish did
@@julieeverett7442 The falling out in this is 100% not linked to the “Love is War” version. Even then ace rejoins the doctor after the events of that story.
It's super cool to have these cameos. To remember the older doctor actors and respect their contribution to the series.
Always keep moving on but never forget the past.
"Brave Heart, Teagan." I loved that.
So did I. 💓
I cried a bit at that.🥹
Just like Ace says to the 7th Doctor this show will never fail me. It made me the person I am today.
That was a pretty nice throwback. I liked the mention of Adric to Tegan with the man I call "My Doctor" as I grew up watching Tom Baker and Peter Davidson when I was very young and watching Ace re connect with her Doctor. Bought back a lot of childhood memories.
When he said “brave heart” the tears started rolling.
Such lovely scenes. I was over the moon to see Seven and Ace back. Sylvester was my first Doctor.
"All children leave home sooner or later. The joy is to watch them fly." That is so wholesome.
Another moment that nearly had a tear in my eyes such a beautiful scene
More than almost for me :)
Two completely unexpected reunions, done in the most bittersweet yet nostalgic way possible. 💙💙
The 7th Doctor/Ace relationship started unpromisingly with Sophie Aldred being the shoo-in 1980s teenager 'Bilgebag! Ace! Triffic!!'... and actually transformed into this really brilliant and meaningful dynamic where there was huge emotional depth. And Davison was my first ever Dr, so he's always my favourite. Loved all of this.
Power of The Doctor was great! Loved seeing all the past characters.
Also loved that both Ace and Tegan got those scenes with their respective Doctors.
An amazing episode!
These made me cry. I watched 4 and 5 with my mom before she died. 5 introduced me to the word "dapper " (thank you Mom). Also... when I saw Tegan and the Cybermen I thought "No, you're not taking my Tegan when I just got her back." Tegan is absolutely one of my favourites. Watching reaction videos from people that only saw New Who stuff just kind of...hurt knowing they don't know what seeing Ace, Tegan or any of the others does for us, let alone seeing their Doctors and them interact!
Imagine how I feel, about Nu Who fans who care nothing at all about even bothering to try and watch some of the 1st, 2nd or my absolute favorite, the 3rd Doctor. For my money, the 3rd Doctor didn't have a single bad story, strongest period of the show, IMO. But even though I feel personally that the 80s declined (the Doctors were fine, the writing and BBC nonsense failed them), I still thing 80s Who is still generally much better than the (IMO non-canon) Nu Who stuff. I've had friends try to explain Nu Who story threads to me, like Riversong etc. etc., and it just gives me a headache.
It was very nice of them to give old actors from the original show some moments like these though. I really wish more Nu Who fans would go watch the original Who. It's a very different beast, but it sucks to me, that so many seem to not care, and only consider THIS show Who, when it barely resembles what the classic show was about.
@@Retrorevelations I can't imagine exactly your circumstance, but I also am very aggravated when people I talk Doctor Who with say they haven't seen any of the older Who. I believe that you can't fully appreciate the current without the previous generation (Doctor Who, technology etc). Having people go "oh he's having a bad Regeneration " or "they've never done that before, new creature" I get agitated and start to explain how they're wrong. Friends don't understand why I'm upset at the purge that destroyed earlier episodes since I am so young (I'm someone that is planning to be a librarian or work with old documents so I care about books, media and more being available and taken care of). I've even tried saying to people "you do realise that without the original, the First Doctor, you wouldn't have *your* Doctor?" I've stopped trying to have the discussions.
Such a powerful sequence, so well written, so well acted - the love of the two Doctors to their Companions was obvious.
So nice to see Peter and Sylvester reprising their roles so perfectly, so... humanely.
I love the holographic Doctors gave their previous companions the closure. 5th Doctor gave Tegan Courage as she’s having PTSD of the Cybermen by mentioning Adric’s demise in ‘Earthshock’ and ‘Brave Heart’. 7th Doctor reconciling the fallout between him and Ace, they being ‘ACE’.
I love how, in this special, they were able to bring back previous doctors without it seeming to overshadow Jodie, if anything to me it emphasised more than other episodes with previous doctors the idea that they may be different, but they're all The Doctor.
Also I loved the finale of series 13 where Jodie was interacting with herself, and it felt almost like you had other doctors there, of course there wasn't a difference in personalities, but it felt as if there were other versions on the doctor there, which is really what should be aimed for with episodes involving the doctor interacting with themselves
If you think about it while you're watching it, all the lines could be read as written by Whittaker - it's a really good example of how the Doctor is different takes on one character. Doctor Who is such a lovely concept.
I can't watch these scenes without getting teary eyed, every time.
I've met Sophie Aldred at a comic con 7 months ago, she's still gorgeous at 60.
What I love about power of the doctor is chibnal has allowed the previous actors who have played the doctor just to be themselves without using videos from past stories like day of the doctor did. My emotions were one of excitement and tears when David, Peter, Colin Sylvester and Paul appeared. I love Doctor Who especially classic who. Janet and Sophie were brilliant and when I saw the trailer at the end of legend of the sea devils I became really excited Ace and Tegan were back. As Ace said. Wicked.
These two moments were powerful on so many levels for the long term fans of the show. Loved every moment with both Ace and Tegan.
seeing the Old Doctors is Like Amazing
A most interesting way to have a multi-Doctor adventure for Jodie’s era. 👍🏻
"Brave Heart, Tegan...."
Literally the best ever moment!
Honestly, I can't fault how these scenes went. Just a joy to watch, particularly Sylvester's lines and 'we're ace', love it.
When they had that reunion with Five and Tegan, I knew exactly what was coming next, Seven and Ace reunion. The seventh doctor was my favourite classic era doctor and by the end of the scene I was holding back tears
The 7th was always one of my favourites. And hearing him speak with Ace again, just warms my heart. (And I was introduced to Doctor Who long, long after his time as The Doctor)
Can we please get a spin-off with Ace, Donna Noble, and Amy Pond traveling across Time & Space blowing crap up?! XD
I absolutely love when both of them get really emotional, their Doctor hologram looks like they're actually present in front of them, as if they're comforting them. Its so beautiful!
I love that they got to make peace with their respective Doctors ❤ Seeing Peter and Sylvester phasing made those scenes so special ❤ I love the detail that they look more substancial in the most important and beautiful moments ❤️
This has to be one of my top favorite New Who moments. Bringing back ace, Tegan and several former Doctor actors was definitely one of the best things to happen in the show
Seeing Sylvester and Peter in action again is awesome!!!!
A good way to bring Sylvester and Peter back into the fold, with their friends. Wicked, indeed. Good work from Sophie and Janet as well, surprised when confronted by their Doctors. I have some of every Doctor to watch here on disc, and will be adding this episode next week. Tuesday, the 13th, appropriately, here in the US.
I have all of them, and this is now on my shelf. it was great to see their reunion. For Ace and Tegan is was 30-40 years, for the doctor it was actually over 2000 years, imagine how she felt. (and no, I did not say that wrong!!!)
This part made me cry. Especially when they mentioned Adric. I never thought I ever hear that name ever again
Was such a nice surprise, as a fan of the classic series, it meant alot 🙂
Five had me at "brave heart". just started bawling
Ace and the Professor, always my favourites.
Love seeing Sylvester's Doctor and Ace back on screen, they were my Doctor and companion!!❤❤
I love the 7th Doctor and Ace so much. They were in the TARDIS when I started to watch the show aged 9. As much as I enjoyed seeing Peter's Doctor with Tegan (and I did, it was lovely), at some point during the scene i realised "oh my God - they're going to do the same with Sylvester's Doctor and Ace aren't they" and found I was actually crying a little in anticipation.
I adore this ridiculous show.
Such a pity that The Seventh Doctor's Era abruptly ended due to the cancellation of the show in 1989
I know would have loved to have seen season 27.
He and Sophie were a such a fantastic combination.
@@martinmorles1 even Sylvester McCoy stated that if Doctor Who did continue into the 90s. He would have still been The Doctor
@Mike yes oops
@@FreeTheDonbas same show. Don't nitpick.
@@FreeTheDonbas nitpicking
Alright I’m just gonna say it:
Power of the Doctor is what Day of the Doctor WISHED it was.
A mix of old and new proper and having the companions of old return to help alongside our current run while at the same time the threat is a combined Master/Dalek/Cyberman plot which is a pretty big deal to handle for the Doctor alone.
Look Matt teaming with David was cute and John hurt will ALWAYS be a godsend in what he does but Day of the Doctor was more of an episode rather than a big special.
THIS!…this lives up to the glory.
I loved this! Great performances by all the actors 😂😅
So good to see Sophie and Sylvester back on the screen. One of the best Doctor Companion pairings who sadly were cut short of further on screen adventures in the original run.
Damn Sylvester McCoy is like the grandad I never had. He always makes me emotional with his acting skills.
These scenes had me bawling, so beautifully done❤❤
What great scenes. Love the fact that they were intentionally vague as to how Ace left too
This video hits way too close to home, whenever I think about whether or not I am living up to my potential, even while those who mentored me over the years (whether they be a parent, teacher or manager) took the time to interact with me because they saw something worth mentoring. Kudos for the producers for putting this episode together.
"Adric". That one name. Millions of Whovians broke down at that.
This was probably the best moment from doctor who in a long time, a little throw back is always good, and this one just hit the FEELS
Seeing Seven and Ace again without (for the most part, with Chibnall biting that bullet due to brand oversight) without the baggage of the EU is joyous. McCoy is in high form and clearly enjoying the part more than he has in a decades.
The meeting between Ace and McCoy's Doctor brought a tear to my eye when he said "We're Ace!"
I’ll probably never cry so much at a moment in media as I did when seeing 7/Ace back together.
They weren’t my first Doctor/Companion, but they changed my world. Thank you, Sylvester & Sophie💜💜➕🟦
Silvester McCoy was my first "doctor", that's something you never forget. All the question marks were a bit "on the nose", but hey, it's the 80s...
Had a blanket over my tv and headphones on so my parents wouldn't catch me staying up late, I was 8 years old and the show aired 23:30, and only on school days of course.
Watched all I could, and then the series was discontinued in Germany due to "lack of interest" (what a surprise, having it air late at night shortly before end of broadcast)
Over 40 now, still groving to the original theme, and the Tardis sound is my notification tone on my phone.
Adrick... you didn't have to do that but you did and I love it... also just realized for one brief moment, the 5th Doctor was like sentient when he says I missed you too. It's subtle but adds more weight to their interaction. The Secenth Doctor too when he says "we're ace." It's a good move!
I was okay with Tegan and her Doctor, but Ace and the 7th together again, that hit the feels, especially when he ended it with that little smile and him going "We're ace!", flipping awesome.
And still chiding her about the explosives lol
@@glenchapman3899 Seven: "Ace! Give me some of that Nitro-9 that you're not carrying!" -- Seven: "I don't suppose you completely ignored my instructions and took some Nitro-9 with you?", Ace: "Of course not! I'm a good girl and do what I'm told.", Seven: "Excellent. Blow up that vehicle!", Ace -- Smiles while blowing up a Cyber-ship.
I really love the ace and 7 scene, I was worried and excited about ace returning and they did her and the doctors relationship really well.
Yes, actually treating DW canon with respect and understanding must have been a weird feeling for him.
I met Peter Davison in full costume down a back path at the 20th Anniversary Celebration at Longleat in 1983. I was 4 at the time, he was dashing to his next engagement, but still made time to shake my hand and chat to me for a few minutes on his haunches - it was a real thrill and he was absolutely delightful, such a nice chap. He'll always be my doctor and it was awesome to see him back in this story - hopefully not for the last time!
The Seventh Doctor hasnt lost a single step. Perfection and great acting by Mccoy.
I really hope that Ace Gets her own TV show After the 60th anniversary Specials.
My two favorite scenes of the episode, especially the one with Seven and Ace.
It's moments like this we get a glimpse of his wisdom and what each of his friends and companions taught him
"Ace..."
"Yeah?"
"I don't suppose you've completely ignored my instructions and prepared any nitro-9, have you?"
"... What if I had?"
"Naturally, you wouldn't do anything so _insanely_ dangerous as to carry it around with you, would you?"
"Of course not. I'm a good girl. I do what I'm told."
"Excellent. Blow up that vehicle."
- 7 and Ace, _Silver Nemesis_ (1988)
Power of the Doctor = Power of Emotional Reunions.
"I never forget any of you. I never forget anything"
Dr Who has is the most deeply tragic character on TV.
This is what we should have got for the 50th Anniversary so glad they had multiple doctors. The 5th Doctor and Teagan got me especially when he mentioned adric.
one of my favourite scenes from the episode
Ace and the 7th Doctor was the perfect team for me.
I like how all the older doctors sort of started out sounding like holograms but as it got to the end of their scenes they sounded like they had really come back and were real
One of the best moments in doctor who. They deserved this
Absolutely gorgeous moments.
I have wanted to see something like this for decades . Ever since Tegan ran off into that alley .
She was a bit mean to the Doctor in this, though. "Surprised you remember" - WTF? She ran off and dumped him!
@@barryguff6893 yeah , that was their vibe.
When 5 said Adric. 😢
Yep, that time when they first meet Cybermen is also the time they lost adric