I am in the UK and I have Nick's and White's, I use to chew through Timberlands like they were lunch, big fan of the big arch and heel, because the wedge sole is slippery in the wet woods of England.
I hate to say it, but it's sad that these boots are not purchased more in America. It's tough in the US, with the job, kids, bills, etc. but no question, nobody wants to see these places go out of business. Whites is now owned by a Japanese company, and many former customers are disappointed in the quality because they have cut costs on the material to make the boots. Danner is now also owned by a Japanese Company, and to no surprise the quality is not the same. Wesco, Nicks, and Limmer are still USA owned, but if people in the US do not support these companies, it won't be long before they are either bought out, or have to close shop.
In March, I went and got my White's from a rebuild (4th time) and I had reservations about it. It was the first time since they had been purchased. The last rebuild on them was not quite up to the what it was previously. Not that it was bad but I could see where they didn't put in the extra effort. With this last rebuild, I can say that they did a fantastic job. Everything was replaced except for the two leather uppers, even new hooks and eyelets. They even patched a while near the top of the tongue. I really don't like the idea of a foreign owner of my favorite footwear, but after talking to the employee's and manager I am pretty sure the quality will still be there for a few more years. I can say that they did an awesome job on this last rebuild, and the new ones I purchased.
White's is owned by Lacrosse which is not a Japanese company, it's American. If the company that acquired Whites had been Japanese, the quality would have increased as Japanese manufacturing is a throwback to old school American manufacturing in that it values quality of craftsmanship above all else.
@@amateurstanding ABC-Mart purchased LaCrosse Footwear I think back in 2012 or 2013, which is the Japanese based company. That being said, I agree, Japan would not be associated with low quality, and White's Boots are still made in the USA. Japanese consumers hate cheap Chinese products, so it's a good thing they love buying high quality USA made products. Unfortunately, many Americans choose the cheap Chinese junk over US made top quality for a variety of reasons. Price is a big factor.
@@amateurstanding LaCrosse Footwear, Inc. is an American company based in Portland, Oregon. Founded in 1897 in La Crosse, Wisconsin, the footwear company relocated to Oregon in 2001 where its Danner Boots subsidiary was based. In 2012, the formerly publicly traded company was bought by Japanese-based ABC-Mart. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaCrosse_Footwear
I have the Jobmasters. I have really enjoyed them. A little stiff breaking in but it didn't take long. I am a land surveyor and they are wearing great and are very comfortable. Great video!
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS KIND OF SHOES FOR BIKERS.......MY WESCO BOOTS ARE MANDATORY FOR A RIDE.....ANY RIDE, ANYWHERE....YOUR FOOT IS WORTH $250 A PIECE......AT LEAST.....AT $500 A PAIR...SO YOU DECIDE....!!!!!
I have both Wesco's & Nick's. Both are excellent. I can't wait to put them on every morning. When the leather is cold, they are stiff. But as they warm up, they get supple and fit your feet like gloves. By far my favorite boots. By far. Expensive? Yes, but the quality is night & day compared with regular boots. Plus they are tanks & will last a lifetime with proper care. Also, they can be rebuilt. "Buy fewer, better things" has been my motto. Has worked well for me. Lastly, the more they are worn, the better they look. They look their best when they've been worn hard.
If you’re spending $320 on a certain well known brand or even $180 on their Factory Seconds then you owe it to yourself for a pair of Wesco, Nicks or Whites or Franks.
@Jonathan Grandt, Good point! I own over ten pairs of Allen Edmonds boots, they are a good brand but I need arch support and sturdy thick soles. I am looking into buying Nick’s but can’t decide on the model. I love their Hotshots and Builder Pros although I work in an office :)
I've always had redwings, but I was disappointed with caring for my boots only to have the sole wear to paper and not being able to resole the boot in a way that it could still be used in extreme conditions or environments. I take care of my boots, wear them 6 days a week minimum and they get a weekly wash and oil or heavy duty preservative. So I end up with a half dozen pairs of redwings that are insulated gortex 8 inch to 10 inch boots that just sit in the basement because they've fallen appart after a few days back at the job sites. One pair literally fell apart in just 3 and a half days. I wore gym shoes that I had in my car for half of the fourth day because one sole broke away nearly completely. People think I'm crazy paying $570 for a pair of White's or $710 for Westco packers but for one they're just built better. It's like taking a knock off car that looks like a high-end Mercedes and then showing you a real high-end Mercedes. You don't even have to put them on, you can see the thickness, the stitching, the nails in the Soles and so much more. I might work another 15 years at most and I already know that I don't have a need to replace just those 2 pair from now until retirement. Imagine being 16, getting a car and knowing that you won't even need to think about replacing it until your married and have a few kids and even then it would be just to have a new version, not that your is beat up. Good stuff costs money, nomex pants for daily wear can set you back 400 dollars, that's just one pair. This isn't about being flashy, that's the rub for most people, they are used to wasting money on shiny junk so you can see they paid x dollars for that useless mass produced item. It's a hit to their egos that they are wearing 700 dollar boots and your not aware of how much better his shoes are compared to yours. It hits the pocket like "luxury" items but doesn't scream "Ferrari" or "Rolex" of their respected world. I hate to say it but I have some incredibly wealthy friends and family who don't think making 10k a week as abnormal (much more in 1 case) but you'll never gawk at them. They'll show up in a Toyota camery from 3 years ago, ASICS that are scuffed and worn and whatever jeans and t shirt they found that morning. But they're genuine multi millionaires and they are the type of person that will buy a custom boot because of its long term value and longevity. Plus wealth but careful people see the value in something made very well without the need of diamonds on it. There's a reason why toyotas are found in brutal deserts instead of lamborghini suvs lol. Ok I'm Ramblin now. Hope this helps someone
Absolutely beautiful boots you have there. It has been about 20yrs since I last had Westcos... Going for a pair of Nick's in a week or so. May have to give Westcos a try again. They were wonderful.
I have a pair of 10" Hot Shot Nick's in the off the shelf black, and now I am wishing that I was willing to wait a few months as those brown roughouts are amazing! I have had my pair for four years or so, and they were by far the most painful boots I have ever worn to break in. But now they are some of the most comfortable I own. I am looking to treat myself to one of their 6" boots this winter.
Always kind of wondered about the stitch wear. Thanks for addressing that. I love this style, ended up with White's, but will keep adding to the rotation for sure.
Adam I should add that according to what I’ve read, the stitch components contain a lubricant that acts like a glue and swells the stitch after installation- the stitcher also apparently uses a lock stitch to further anchor the sole- I’m no shoemaker, but I thought that was interesting
Great boots, especially those Wesco's. You're absolutely right about how the Japanese really appreciate the level of quality that are put in to these Bad Boys. I see the Wesco's posted all over IG by Hard Workers and Boot Enthusiasts alike, it's amazing. Great video....
Wesco was in the Whole Earth catalog in 1970. Peruse those pages for lots of well made stuff. lot of it is gone but plentybgood stuff still being made in it. used copies on ebay or get digital copy.
You don't need to be a builder or a welder or a logger or a smokejumper to appreciate high-quality footwear. The all-leather construction makes for a naturally breathing boot, that with correctly chosen socks spells end to sweaty feet. The option of having your boot custom-made to measure is god-sent to people whose size and proportions don't conform to stock sizes; having your boots fit correctly is a great feeling. As a bonus, I mention the "arch-ease" built in to Nick's & White's; having strong arch-support is potentially addictive and you cannot achieve the same with aftermarket insoles.
Really good video. Both boots are fantastic. Your one lucky man. Great point about these boot makers having a hard time. The hell with the lug soled Gucci horse bit loafers! I'm gonna take my $500 and order some Nick's!
I would've happily bought another pair of Redwing 899s in 14B but they don't make them anymore. In fact most of the mass production boot makers don't offer much in large narrow widths. So I went with Nicks BuilderPro custom fit. They are definitely better built, heavier, excellent fit. The upper halves don't touch which is unusual for me. The fit takes some getting used to. After 7 days of use the initial break in is done, I'm to the point where I forget they are there. It'll probably be 6 months before they are really fully broken in. All the bite is gone. Part of that is figuring out lacing, how snug loose. It seems to me the laces don't tighten them (unless you want to), they just close the boot so it stays on. The fit is what keeps it on your foot. They are much better for climbing and descending rough, difficult terrain because of the fit. My Redwings are okay, need two socks but these Nicks, one sock and they stick to my foot. They are worth the cost especially if I get more miles out of them.
I haven't owned Nick's boots, I am a die hard Wesco fan. I own 9 pairs of Highliners and Job masters from 1998 to present, I wear them out, send for a rebuild and order another custom pair. My 14" Highliners are being built now, $898 and they will provide many years of service in steel hauling.
Bought my 10 in high liners in 1999 still own them and occasionally wear them. Anything over 8 is just for show. To each his own. IBEW local 702 lineman. One of the first things I got with my first months pay was my Wesco boots. Rebuilt multiple times in the last 20 plus years. They were highly coveted then and still are now.
I’m a French Canadian and I own 2 pairs of Nicks and I have to say that they are not expensive at all when you look at the quality. My Robert, or my working boots, will probably last at least 5 times what my regular boots last (those that I don’t wear anymore). The support of these boots is phenomenal and the fit is spectacular: it is a bit like a skate but without the constraints, your foot is wrapped but not squeezed. Now, I have black and tan leather and I plan to buy some brown boots to complete my collection. Then, I will probably be good for 15 years (except for the resoles).
I own a lot (4 pairs) of Red Wings, 3 heritage and 1 work boot, all spaced over many years and factory second sales. I went to a vintage clothing store today to just look for some denim jackets, saw a pair of Wesco boots sitting on the back shelf. They fit me perfectly and the sole was barely worn, and the leather apart from the kiltie looked brand new. I asked the owner how much, she said $110. Bought them on the spot. I never thought I'd be able to own a pair of these boots any time in the near future (I'm a server still in college) but I am so grateful for the incredible find.
What you say is so true. I owned, a Viberg(very high quality Canadian booy maker) basic black work boot, sold it stupidly and got a pair of Danner Recons, stitch down. Completely different build quality, night and day. The Danner is built like a sneaker with thin floppy leather, lots of fabric while the Viberg leather was thick sturdy and broke in to a snug custom fit. For the xtra couple hundred you get a completely different class of boot.
schlooonginator Well said. There’s a pretty small gap in price between the perceived high quality boots and the legit heirloom makers like Viberg, Wesco, Nicks.
Boy do I love those Nicks boots...!! Unfortunately I’m in London where wearing Dr Martins is still considered cool..... but I do have some second hand tall Wescos I bought on eBay for a bargain.
Does the open side up lap stitch on the side collect debris? As a mason, I have to religiously wax mine to keep the dust from drying out stitching. But it's hard to maintain. I feel like that long stitch would be a liability. Incredible quality boots though. I want to justify a pair so bad. But damn.
jfdb59 I can imagine that masonry shreds everything pretty quickly, and either boot provides a thicker surface area to collect dust and debris, but I think a quick brushing and a handful of obenauf’s every couple of weeks would do a lot. I use an old toothbrush to clean out the ledge under the arch that collects dust. Super heavy stitching also.
Never owned a boot that was over 100 bucks. Im severly tempted to give it a try for that custom fit and low maintenance. I wonder if nicks has coblers in japan since i live there.
I got a pair of the Wesco's. They're fabulous. They're so tough, yet so pretty. There are days when I'm afraid to wear them, because they look like they belong in a display cabinet. 🤣
Buldgr Sure, just be aware that it will change the appearance of the leather from that suede look to a darker, more oily look. I recently treated this pair with Obenaufs and am pleased with the result. As you say, it’s either treat it or leave it unprotected from the elements.
Those Nick's lack the Red X on the sole that indicates they are NFPA certified for fire use... different sole and stitching but otherwise the boots are basically the same as the Builder Pro. Also, the false tongue isn't laced in correctly... All that said, I like my Nick's Builder Pro. I went the bespoke route, 10" Walnut. No more mangled toes! No more thick calluses on the big toes, no more thick in-grown toe nails on the big toes... Nick's padded out the last so there is room for my big toes while maintaining the width of the rest of the boot. Worth the money and the wait in my opinion!
nicks has a few differnet lasts that they make things on. they have a moderate arch last with a significantly lower heel. you just have to look around for it. all the made to order ones will have the option i think
Jason Pierce Jason- Yes. They have 3 different lasts for this boot that step down the arch and height. There is a video on this site which illustrates this nicely. Stay well.
I heard people said, the lace-to-toe design will pinch the toes or made pressure on the toe area. is it real? Because I am planning to custom-made a Wesco boots, I’m stuck between the regular toe...Semi lace-to-toe, and lace-to-toe...
johnny wong I haven’t felt any difference, and I like the aesthetics of the LTT. Makes my feet appear smaller. I would go with the look you like the best. Stay well Johnny and thanks for the question!
Hi I am looking to order my first pair of custom boots, I work in an office but I need arch support and I love thick sturdy soles. I wear jeans most of the days. Which brand of boots and model do you recommend? Thank you
@Johnny B Yes Sir, I am also looking at their Rangers in all smooth chocolate leather but it makes me wonder if I order Builder Pros in all smooth leather how different would they be other than the lug soles?
Nicks has a heritage line with more office friendly v bar or mini lug sole. I believe you'd specifically want to look at the Robert line as it has a higher arch. They also make and sell shoes with the higher arch.
Frank’s Boots was started from the former general manager of Nick’s, Nick’s shop foreman also went to Frank’s, also consider JK Boots in Spokane, another former Nick’s employee and old world quality
You must be right about the Japanese market, Tokyo based ABC-Mart purchased LaCrosse Footwear, that owns Danner Boots and ABC-Mart also bought White's Boots, from which Nick's Boots heritage comes from.
Nicks and WESCO’s are definitely some of the best work boots out there BUT U forgot about White’s and Viberg Work Boots… I own 2 pairs of White’s ( 1 Smokejumper and 1 Millwrights ) and 3 pairs of Viberg’s ( 2 9” Contractor’s 1 with a bump toe and 1 without, and 1 Sierra boot ) and they’re built just as good as any of these, But I did Love My Wesco Jobmasters too.. Great Boots 👍
The Wesco boots look awesome but I really like the rough out leather on the Nicks I’m not a big fan of the higher heel on them. The only reason I have bought a pair of boots like this yet is sizing. I would hate to spend the money if they didn’t fit right. If you can give me any advice on sizing the Wesco’s that would be great thx. I’ve watched your boot videos multiple times 👍🏼
J J I get what you are saying about sizing, since I’ve struggled with it myself. With the Wescos I’m a 9.5, Nicks 8.5, Viberg 8.5, Vans 10 for comparison. With the Wescos, if you buy a stock boot from BakerBoot you can always return for a different size. Nicks is cool because they send you a try on boot after they get your measurements, so you can see how close they are and make changes. Also Nicks has lower heels available. Take Care, JJ. Stay well
Thanks for the help I will give Nicks a call and see if I can get a sample. That’s actually a great idea they came up with. Thx again take care. Keep making the videos some great stuff 👍🏻
@@paulwilliamsd I think you’ll be glad you did. Wait times are a bit extended now, but I think they are worth it. I’m recently ordered a pair of Wesco Axebreakers from Standard & Strange, so patiently waiting!
The demand is higher than ever for boots like Whites, Nicks, and Russel Mockison . Demand isn’t the problem finding skilled employees and people willing to learn the craft is the problem . Whites and Nicks used to offer seemingly and endless amount of exotic leathers which they don’t offer anymore because so many people are ordering boots from them due to the internet . These companies ain’t going anywhere but the quality and option may go down and waiting times will increase and have because of the demand .
White's still makes a good quality boot. However, their ownership is now in the hands of an international corporation. The result is somewhat less attention to detail and individual service. They're more of a high end production rather than custom boot. White's has the longest history of bootmaking in Spokane, WA. The other, locally owned, bootmakers here grew from that history, reputation, and demand. And they now are carrying the reputation for high build quality, custom, heavy work boots, in some ways, better than White's can.
There is a competition between the regular styles and the new designs and new materials. I do still favor Ariat because are pull on, super soft interior and last for ever.
Barlo Tardy I hear you. I would say roomy, for sure. Recommend you email Wesco for sizing recommendation. Tell them your sizing in multiple shoes and they’ll sort you.
Ramon- It’s a custom hotshot- Not available on the site, but I’m sure they’d make it for you. 8 inch hotshot, lace to toe, brown rough out, brown edge, vibram 100. Be well!
Don’t know anything about Franks, other than the Nicks pedigree. Had 3 pairs of Whites and my latest pair of Bounty Hunters were OK. Circa 5 years ago, though, so take with a grain of salt.
@@sbreslin41 Hi. Thanks for replying....I've never wore the Nicks but this video makes me want to give them a shot. I've been talking to them this past week....very nice people. Have you been wearing your Nicks the past couple of years? How do you like them?
@@sbreslin41: I'm considering a pair of Wescos. I will order stock, but not sure about sizing. Would you suggest ordering my sneaker/nike size or a size/half size down? Thanks for any advice.
J T My opinion is order at least a half size down from your sneaker size. Maybe a full size. I’m 10 Vans or Nike, 9 Alden Barrie last, could probably go 9 Wesco. 9.5 is roomy.
Scap-pooose. It's just north of Portland. For those of you who have never lived in Washington, be thankful one of your beloved bootmakers isn't located in Puyallup or Sequim.
Curtis- Why do you have to come at me like that? I don’t pretend to be someone I’m not. Doesn’t mean I don’t know these boots, or can’t have an opinion. I appreciate you, anyways!
It wasn't my intention to come off the way I did and for that I apologize. I'm just saying you don't use the boots hard enough for your review to be useful for me. You absolutely can have a opinion. But you would have to use the boots hard to be able to really know the boots. Again this is not meant to be a insult just a observation.
Curtis Perry that is some broad brush you’re using there. You definition of “hard enough” is going to be different then the next person. My fire boots and work boots are used harder then your boots are guaranteed without a doubt and because I take very good care of my boots they do not appear to be used “hard enough”. If you look closely at them you can see the hard days and the many hours spent in them. Then again I do not judge someone based off what their boots look like, I judge them based off their work. To each their own I guess
I can tell the difference in boots taken care of but used hard and boots that are used for a fashion statement. Anyone that knows anything about boots can for that matter. I'm glad you use your boots hard not sure why I need to know how you use your boots but that's nice. To each their own I guess. Have a nice day and keep using them boots hard.
@@JC-kv1vn If they show hard use they aren't boots used purely for a fashion statement. Fashion statement boots can't show hard use. The two simply don't mix.
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Yes, in Japan these boots are highly valued! Greetings from Tokyo.
I love that there are steel toe construction tabi in japan
I ❤ denim made in Japan!
( my Camry was too! ) Best car I ever owned!
Same goes to the denim!
I am in the UK and I have Nick's and White's, I use to chew through Timberlands like they were lunch, big fan of the big arch and heel, because the wedge sole is slippery in the wet woods of England.
I hate to say it, but it's sad that these boots are not purchased more in America. It's tough in the US, with the job, kids, bills, etc. but no question, nobody wants to see these places go out of business. Whites is now owned by a Japanese company, and many former customers are disappointed in the quality because they have cut costs on the material to make the boots. Danner is now also owned by a Japanese Company, and to no surprise the quality is not the same. Wesco, Nicks, and Limmer are still USA owned, but if people in the US do not support these companies, it won't be long before they are either bought out, or have to close shop.
In March, I went and got my White's from a rebuild (4th time) and I had reservations about it. It was the first time since they had been purchased. The last rebuild on them was not quite up to the what it was previously. Not that it was bad but I could see where they didn't put in the extra effort. With this last rebuild, I can say that they did a fantastic job. Everything was replaced except for the two leather uppers, even new hooks and eyelets. They even patched a while near the top of the tongue. I really don't like the idea of a foreign owner of my favorite footwear, but after talking to the employee's and manager I am pretty sure the quality will still be there for a few more years. I can say that they did an awesome job on this last rebuild, and the new ones I purchased.
White's is owned by Lacrosse which is not a Japanese company, it's American. If the company that acquired Whites had been Japanese, the quality would have increased as Japanese manufacturing is a throwback to old school American manufacturing in that it values quality of craftsmanship above all else.
@@amateurstanding ABC-Mart purchased LaCrosse Footwear I think back in 2012 or 2013, which is the Japanese based company. That being said, I agree, Japan would not be associated with low quality, and White's Boots are still made in the USA. Japanese consumers hate cheap Chinese products, so it's a good thing they love buying high quality USA made products. Unfortunately, many Americans choose the cheap Chinese junk over US made top quality for a variety of reasons. Price is a big factor.
Don't forget Frank's boots there going strong, there a solid company in USA...
@@amateurstanding LaCrosse Footwear, Inc. is an American company based in Portland, Oregon. Founded in 1897 in La Crosse, Wisconsin, the footwear company relocated to Oregon in 2001 where its Danner Boots subsidiary was based. In 2012, the formerly publicly traded company was bought by Japanese-based ABC-Mart. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaCrosse_Footwear
I have the Jobmasters. I have really enjoyed them. A little stiff breaking in but it didn't take long. I am a land surveyor and they are wearing great and are very comfortable. Great video!
4:08 I was wondering about that stitching. Thanx for clearing that up!
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS KIND OF SHOES FOR BIKERS.......MY WESCO BOOTS ARE MANDATORY FOR A RIDE.....ANY
RIDE, ANYWHERE....YOUR FOOT IS WORTH $250 A PIECE......AT LEAST.....AT $500 A PAIR...SO YOU DECIDE....!!!!!
Great video. I love the look of the Jobmasters. I think it's the stitching that pulls me in!
I have both Wesco's & Nick's. Both are excellent. I can't wait to put them on every morning. When the leather is cold, they are stiff. But as they warm up, they get supple and fit your feet like gloves. By far my favorite boots. By far. Expensive? Yes, but the quality is night & day compared with regular boots. Plus they are tanks & will last a lifetime with proper care. Also, they can be rebuilt. "Buy fewer, better things" has been my motto. Has worked well for me. Lastly, the more they are worn, the better they look. They look their best when they've been worn hard.
I wear a pair of caulks out every 2 years....
If you’re spending $320 on a certain well known brand or even $180 on their Factory Seconds then you owe it to yourself for a pair of Wesco, Nicks or Whites or Franks.
*cough* REDWING *cough*
FUNNY.....I ONLY WEAR THESE 4 BRANDS.....
@Jonathan Grandt, Good point! I own over ten pairs of Allen Edmonds boots, they are a good brand but I need arch support and sturdy thick soles. I am looking into buying Nick’s but can’t decide on the model. I love their Hotshots and Builder Pros although I work in an office :)
JK boots make good boots aswell
I've always had redwings, but I was disappointed with caring for my boots only to have the sole wear to paper and not being able to resole the boot in a way that it could still be used in extreme conditions or environments. I take care of my boots, wear them 6 days a week minimum and they get a weekly wash and oil or heavy duty preservative. So I end up with a half dozen pairs of redwings that are insulated gortex 8 inch to 10 inch boots that just sit in the basement because they've fallen appart after a few days back at the job sites. One pair literally fell apart in just 3 and a half days. I wore gym shoes that I had in my car for half of the fourth day because one sole broke away nearly completely. People think I'm crazy paying $570 for a pair of White's or $710 for Westco packers but for one they're just built better. It's like taking a knock off car that looks like a high-end Mercedes and then showing you a real high-end Mercedes. You don't even have to put them on, you can see the thickness, the stitching, the nails in the Soles and so much more. I might work another 15 years at most and I already know that I don't have a need to replace just those 2 pair from now until retirement. Imagine being 16, getting a car and knowing that you won't even need to think about replacing it until your married and have a few kids and even then it would be just to have a new version, not that your is beat up. Good stuff costs money, nomex pants for daily wear can set you back 400 dollars, that's just one pair. This isn't about being flashy, that's the rub for most people, they are used to wasting money on shiny junk so you can see they paid x dollars for that useless mass produced item. It's a hit to their egos that they are wearing 700 dollar boots and your not aware of how much better his shoes are compared to yours. It hits the pocket like "luxury" items but doesn't scream "Ferrari" or "Rolex" of their respected world. I hate to say it but I have some incredibly wealthy friends and family who don't think making 10k a week as abnormal (much more in 1 case) but you'll never gawk at them. They'll show up in a Toyota camery from 3 years ago, ASICS that are scuffed and worn and whatever jeans and t shirt they found that morning. But they're genuine multi millionaires and they are the type of person that will buy a custom boot because of its long term value and longevity. Plus wealth but careful people see the value in something made very well without the need of diamonds on it. There's a reason why toyotas are found in brutal deserts instead of lamborghini suvs lol. Ok I'm Ramblin now. Hope this helps someone
Absolutely beautiful boots you have there. It has been about 20yrs since I last had Westcos... Going for a pair of Nick's in a week or so. May have to give Westcos a try again. They were wonderful.
I work for a man who bought his wescos in the mid 80s and still has them
I have a pair of 10" Hot Shot Nick's in the off the shelf black, and now I am wishing that I was willing to wait a few months as those brown roughouts are amazing! I have had my pair for four years or so, and they were by far the most painful boots I have ever worn to break in. But now they are some of the most comfortable I own. I am looking to treat myself to one of their 6" boots this winter.
I own a pair of Whites that I love and I'm getting ready to order a pair of Nicks. Money well spent for sure.
Wesco roughout spring heal caulks with 12" uppers, been through a small pile of them over the years of timber falling. Love em!
Always kind of wondered about the stitch wear. Thanks for addressing that. I love this style, ended up with White's, but will keep adding to the rotation for sure.
Adam I should add that according to what I’ve read, the stitch components contain a lubricant that acts like a glue and swells the stitch after installation- the stitcher also apparently uses a lock stitch to further anchor the sole- I’m no shoemaker, but I thought that was interesting
Great boots, especially those Wesco's. You're absolutely right about how the Japanese really appreciate the level of quality that are put in to these Bad Boys. I see the Wesco's posted all over IG by Hard Workers and Boot Enthusiasts alike, it's amazing. Great video....
Any chance you can do an update video on these two pair? Would be so cool to see how they each look today and to hear your thoughts on them. ✌🏻
Great video, helped me make a decision on what boot. Can’t go wrong with with brands though.
Wesco was in the Whole Earth catalog in 1970. Peruse those pages for lots of well made stuff. lot of it is gone but plentybgood stuff still being made in it. used copies on ebay or get digital copy.
You don't need to be a builder or a welder or a logger or a smokejumper to appreciate high-quality footwear. The all-leather construction makes for a naturally breathing boot, that with correctly chosen socks spells end to sweaty feet. The option of having your boot custom-made to measure is god-sent to people whose size and proportions don't conform to stock sizes; having your boots fit correctly is a great feeling. As a bonus, I mention the "arch-ease" built in to Nick's & White's; having strong arch-support is potentially addictive and you cannot achieve the same with aftermarket insoles.
While I agree, I shake my head at guys spending 500-1000$ on special features they won't use
Really good video. Both boots are fantastic. Your one lucky man. Great point about these boot makers having a hard time. The hell with the lug soled Gucci horse bit loafers! I'm gonna take my $500 and order some Nick's!
I would've happily bought another pair of Redwing 899s in 14B but they don't make them anymore. In fact most of the mass production boot makers don't offer much in large narrow widths. So I went with Nicks BuilderPro custom fit. They are definitely better built, heavier, excellent fit. The upper halves don't touch which is unusual for me. The fit takes some getting used to. After 7 days of use the initial break in is done, I'm to the point where I forget they are there. It'll probably be 6 months before they are really fully broken in. All the bite is gone. Part of that is figuring out lacing, how snug loose. It seems to me the laces don't tighten them (unless you want to), they just close the boot so it stays on. The fit is what keeps it on your foot. They are much better for climbing and descending rough, difficult terrain because of the fit. My Redwings are okay, need two socks but these Nicks, one sock and they stick to my foot. They are worth the cost especially if I get more miles out of them.
Those are pretty nice. I’m a fan of the original Made in England Docs, so nice shout, Nik.
Now that you’ve used your Nicks, any thoughts VS your Wesco Jobmaster?
Great video. Very well done. I am a Nicks man. Quality all the way. Custom is the only way to go.
I haven't owned Nick's boots, I am a die hard Wesco fan. I own 9 pairs of Highliners and Job masters from 1998 to present, I wear them out, send for a rebuild and order another custom pair. My 14" Highliners are being built now, $898 and they will provide many years of service in steel hauling.
TheRoadhammer379 I can’t argue with that kind of experience! Wesco just seems to get it right.
Why do you need a 14" upper for pushing a clutch pedal?
I wore 12" uppers for years while falling timber in the Cascades.
Bought my 10 in high liners in 1999 still own them and occasionally wear them. Anything over 8 is just for show. To each his own. IBEW local 702 lineman. One of the first things I got with my first months pay was my Wesco boots. Rebuilt multiple times in the last 20 plus years. They were highly coveted then and still are now.
I’m a French Canadian and I own 2 pairs of Nicks and I have to say that they are not expensive at all when you look at the quality. My Robert, or my working boots, will probably last at least 5 times what my regular boots last (those that I don’t wear anymore). The support of these boots is phenomenal and the fit is spectacular: it is a bit like a skate but without the constraints, your foot is wrapped but not squeezed. Now, I have black and tan leather and I plan to buy some brown boots to complete my collection. Then, I will probably be good for 15 years (except for the resoles).
Great review. I like them both
What a great review and information.
I have a pair of wesco,nicks, double RL, and whites love them all very good quality.
I own a lot (4 pairs) of Red Wings, 3 heritage and 1 work boot, all spaced over many years and factory second sales. I went to a vintage clothing store today to just look for some denim jackets, saw a pair of Wesco boots sitting on the back shelf. They fit me perfectly and the sole was barely worn, and the leather apart from the kiltie looked brand new. I asked the owner how much, she said $110. Bought them on the spot. I never thought I'd be able to own a pair of these boots any time in the near future (I'm a server still in college) but I am so grateful for the incredible find.
Nice find!
That’s awesome, congratulations, I hope you have been enjoying them
What you say is so true.
I owned, a Viberg(very high quality Canadian booy maker) basic black work boot, sold it stupidly and got a pair of Danner Recons, stitch down. Completely different build quality, night and day.
The Danner is built like a sneaker with thin floppy leather, lots of fabric while the Viberg leather was thick sturdy and broke in to a snug custom fit. For the xtra couple hundred you get a completely different class of boot.
schlooonginator Well said. There’s a pretty small gap in price between the perceived high quality boots and the legit heirloom makers like Viberg, Wesco, Nicks.
I just received my custom built wesco voltfoe....are they supposed to fit right out the box?.... I feel zero pain.. just a little on the pinky toe
They are highly valued period love theses boots.
Beautiful boots 👍
Nicks are very well made I have Dayton boots now and I love them but I'm gonna try out nicks boots next time I get new boots
Beautiful boots, like the contrast on the smooth leather… is that brown leather and white thread? Cheers
Any updates on your nicks? How’s it feel as far as comfort long term use
I wanted some job masters in burlap but man yours are beautiful might have to go with the brown
I like the Burlap too! Be well
Boy do I love those Nicks boots...!! Unfortunately I’m in London where wearing Dr Martins is still considered cool..... but I do have some second hand tall Wescos I bought on eBay for a bargain.
Docs are objectively terrible 'boots'. Anyone who highly values them, is someones opinion you can safely disreguard. Buy what you like.
Buy some Nicks. You won’t regret it even with the UK import fees (around £75 to HMRC) they’re worth every penny!
How's the sizing on these things compared to your brannock/sneaker size?
Well said, Saleem!
excellent review ..
What’s the difference between Wesco Jobmaster and the high liner?
Greetings Wolfgang! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your inspiring work! Looking forward to your next videos!
Any update on your favorite boots?
How do they hold up to plpe glue and hot metal?
Does the open side up lap stitch on the side collect debris? As a mason, I have to religiously wax mine to keep the dust from drying out stitching. But it's hard to maintain. I feel like that long stitch would be a liability. Incredible quality boots though. I want to justify a pair so bad. But damn.
jfdb59 I can imagine that masonry shreds everything pretty quickly, and either boot provides a thicker surface area to collect dust and debris, but I think a quick brushing and a handful of obenauf’s every couple of weeks would do a lot. I use an old toothbrush to clean out the ledge under the arch that collects dust. Super heavy stitching also.
Never owned a boot that was over 100 bucks. Im severly tempted to give it a try for that custom fit and low maintenance. I wonder if nicks has coblers in japan since i live there.
And think about how many pairs of those hundred dollar or less boots you went through.
loved the video i like the nicks
I really dig those Nicks!! How much were those is that configuration? Did you have to request to have the “lace to toe”?
WADDY 351 Thanks. There were about $450 if I recall, and I had to request the LTT. Take Care
I got a pair of the Wesco's.
They're fabulous. They're so tough, yet so pretty. There are days when I'm afraid to wear them, because they look like they belong in a display cabinet. 🤣
Can you treat the rough out boot with obenauf's like you would a smooth out? If not, how do you care for the rough out version?
Buldgr Sure, just be aware that it will change the appearance of the leather from that suede look to a darker, more oily look. I recently treated this pair with Obenaufs and am pleased with the result. As you say, it’s either treat it or leave it unprotected from the elements.
@@sbreslin41 Thank you!
Wesco is my favorite...
My only complaint with my Nicks is they are truly murder to break in.
Alex Obrien gnarliest boot I ever broke in! Best fire boot I’ve ever wore!
Ditto with my Whites!
But if you have to murder can’t think of a better weapon.!
think of it as the rite of passage
Those Nick's lack the Red X on the sole that indicates they are NFPA certified for fire use... different sole and stitching but otherwise the boots are basically the same as the Builder Pro. Also, the false tongue isn't laced in correctly... All that said, I like my Nick's Builder Pro. I went the bespoke route, 10" Walnut. No more mangled toes! No more thick calluses on the big toes, no more thick in-grown toe nails on the big toes... Nick's padded out the last so there is room for my big toes while maintaining the width of the rest of the boot. Worth the money and the wait in my opinion!
Love the LTT! Is there a version of these with less heel?
nicks has a few differnet lasts that they make things on. they have a moderate arch last with a significantly lower heel. you just have to look around for it. all the made to order ones will have the option i think
😎 I'm sold on the Nicks
How does the size fits? I wear size 10.5 men, are these wesco & Nick boots 1/2 " bigger or smaller than what i wear?
P K I buy a smaller size in Nicks and Wesco, so they run bigger.
Sir are they able to step down/minimize that heel height on Nick's closer to height of your wesco.
Jason Pierce Jason- Yes. They have 3 different lasts for this boot that step down the arch and height. There is a video on this site which illustrates this nicely. Stay well.
I heard people said, the lace-to-toe design will pinch the toes or made pressure on the toe area. is it real? Because I am planning to custom-made a Wesco boots, I’m stuck between the regular toe...Semi lace-to-toe, and lace-to-toe...
johnny wong I haven’t felt any difference, and I like the aesthetics of the LTT. Makes my feet appear smaller. I would go with the look you like the best. Stay well Johnny and thanks for the question!
Well Made Things Thanks for the reply. Stay health and 😊
Hi I am looking to order my first pair of custom boots, I work in an office but I need arch support and I love thick sturdy soles. I wear jeans most of the days.
Which brand of boots and model do you recommend?
Thank you
@Johnny B Yes Sir, I am also looking at their Rangers in all smooth chocolate leather but it makes me wonder if I order Builder Pros in all smooth leather how different would they be other than the lug soles?
Nicks has a heritage line with more office friendly v bar or mini lug sole. I believe you'd specifically want to look at the Robert line as it has a higher arch. They also make and sell shoes with the higher arch.
I love Wesco. Their tanks
I've heard Frank's Boots are really awesome boots also. Rumor is some of the top skilled guys at Nick's left the company and started Frank's Boots.
D-VO Yes, good shout. I’d like to see more examples on their website to get an idea of their quality, but definitely an option
Frank was the shop foreman for 30 years at Nicks
Lol that’s funny, I head that nicks boots was started by a guy who used to work for whites boots xD
Frank’s Boots was started from the former general manager of Nick’s, Nick’s shop foreman also went to Frank’s, also consider JK Boots in Spokane, another former Nick’s employee and old world quality
Steve Miller JK makes an excellent product!
I like your boots.
You must be right about the Japanese market, Tokyo based ABC-Mart purchased LaCrosse Footwear, that owns Danner Boots and ABC-Mart also bought White's Boots, from which Nick's Boots heritage comes from.
These boots seem to be indestructible
Fair enough!
Nicks and WESCO’s are definitely some of the best work boots out there BUT U forgot about White’s and Viberg Work Boots… I own 2 pairs of White’s ( 1 Smokejumper and 1 Millwrights ) and 3 pairs of Viberg’s ( 2 9” Contractor’s 1 with a bump toe and 1 without, and 1 Sierra boot ) and they’re built just as good as any of these, But I did Love My Wesco Jobmasters too.. Great Boots 👍
Do they offer a boot with gortex and/or insulation?
I know Wesco offers Thinsulate. Not sure about Nick’s
Nice review. I was considering ordering a pair of Nick's, but I think I'll try the Wesco's first.
tnnsman7 I think you’ll like them a lot. Good luck!
The Wesco boots look awesome but I really like the rough out leather on the Nicks I’m not a big fan of the higher heel on them. The only reason I have bought a pair of boots like this yet is sizing. I would hate to spend the money if they didn’t fit right. If you can give me any advice on sizing the Wesco’s that would be great thx. I’ve watched your boot videos multiple times 👍🏼
J J I get what you are saying about sizing, since I’ve struggled with it myself. With the Wescos I’m a 9.5, Nicks 8.5, Viberg 8.5, Vans 10 for comparison. With the Wescos, if you buy a stock boot from BakerBoot you can always return for a different size. Nicks is cool because they send you a try on boot after they get your measurements, so you can see how close they are and make changes. Also Nicks has lower heels available. Take Care, JJ. Stay well
Thanks for the help I will give Nicks a call and see if I can get a sample. That’s actually a great idea they came up with. Thx again take care. Keep making the videos some great stuff 👍🏻
are the jobmasters black or brown? You said its a standard boot correct and do you have a steel or compostie toe. Thanks
Standard Brown lace to toe- model is BR110100 I believe. Not sure of the toe spec, but it’s not steel or hard composite. Be well.
@@sbreslin41 Thanks for the quick response. I'm going to buy a pair. Never owned them or heard of them. I'm done with redwing boots. Garbage man.
@@paulwilliamsd I think you’ll be glad you did. Wait times are a bit extended now, but I think they are worth it. I’m recently ordered a pair of Wesco Axebreakers from Standard & Strange, so patiently waiting!
@@sbreslin41 thanks! I will have to check that website out. However i have a pAir of danner acadia had them for 20 years and still look like new!
Those axe breakers are bad ass man! Beautiful shoe
The demand is higher than ever for boots like Whites, Nicks, and Russel Mockison . Demand isn’t the problem finding skilled employees and people willing to learn the craft is the problem . Whites and Nicks used to offer seemingly and endless amount of exotic leathers which they don’t offer anymore because so many people are ordering boots from them due to the internet . These companies ain’t going anywhere but the quality and option may go down and waiting times will increase and have because of the demand .
Exactly right.
The RedWing 1412's I buy are almost $350. Another $100 is nothing.
What type of leather do you have on your Wesco boots?
That’s the stock brown smooth
What's your opinion on White's and Frank's?
Snib2987 nicks and franks are better than whites. Said while wearing a pair of franks :)
@@lukecalls8279 Yeah. Seems like the general consensus. In your opinion, why do you think Frank's and Nick's is better?
White's still makes a good quality boot. However, their ownership is now in the hands of an international corporation. The result is somewhat less attention to detail and individual service. They're more of a high end production rather than custom boot.
White's has the longest history of bootmaking in Spokane, WA. The other, locally owned, bootmakers here grew from that history, reputation, and demand. And they now are carrying the reputation for high build quality, custom, heavy work boots, in some ways, better than White's can.
There is a competition between the regular styles and the new designs and new materials. I do still favor Ariat because are pull on, super soft interior and last for ever.
I was a fan but over the years they seems to look cooler but last less. last pair I bought only lasted me 8 months
Ariats are basically fashion boots these days
Hi! What last in nicks ? 55 or another ?
Yes, the 55. Be well.
How true to size do the Wesco's tend to be? Snug? Roomy? I'm on the east coast, so not much opportunity to try before I buy.
Barlo Tardy I hear you. I would say roomy, for sure. Recommend you email Wesco for sizing recommendation. Tell them your sizing in multiple shoes and they’ll sort you.
@@sbreslin41 Thanks!
Nicks has the highest arch? over whites and wescos?
Carbonado Similar to Whites Smokejumper, higher than Wesco.
Hi, what colour is that Westco boot?
Standard brown. It’s a bit darker from conditioning.
I like roughout leather 👍
I can’t seem to find these on the nicks website do you have a link ??
Ramon- It’s a custom hotshot- Not available on the site, but I’m sure they’d make it for you. 8 inch hotshot, lace to toe, brown rough out, brown edge, vibram 100. Be well!
@@sbreslin41 Ultra rare spec.
What is the height of both boots?
Giovany Coronel wesco is 10 inch, nicks is 8
Those boots both look brand new like you have never even worked in them.
He talks like someone who works indoors
Can you send exactly what you ordered with the Hostshot, best looking boot ever.
Toby Reclusado Sure, Toby. 8 inch height. All roughout walnut.
Toby Reclusado and brown sole edge
@@sbreslin41 Lace to toe? or standard Hot Shots?
Toby Reclusado lace to toe
You got that right, Sir! We love quality here in Japan!
Are wescos true to size sir ?
Giovany Coronel To me, they run at least a half size large.
time for an update
I bought a pair of whites boots and they fell apart. There was a deep cut on the toe.
Wesco's are tougher. I own both.
Don’t know anything about Franks, other than the Nicks pedigree. Had 3 pairs of Whites and my latest pair of Bounty Hunters were OK. Circa 5 years ago, though, so take with a grain of salt.
I wanna find that lace to toe nicks boots but no at nicks boots
What size are these boots?
Jobmasters 10, Nicks 9. Both are a little big. I’m really a 8.5 Nicks, 9 Wesco, 10 vans or sneaker.
@@sbreslin41 Hi. Thanks for replying....I've never wore the Nicks but this video makes me want to give them a shot. I've been talking to them this past week....very nice people. Have you been wearing your Nicks the past couple of years? How do you like them?
Gold 1792 I really like them. Super tough boot. Really durable
@@sbreslin41: I'm considering a pair of Wescos. I will order stock, but not sure about sizing. Would you suggest ordering my sneaker/nike size or a size/half size down? Thanks for any advice.
J T My opinion is order at least a half size down from your sneaker size. Maybe a full size. I’m 10 Vans or Nike, 9 Alden Barrie last, could probably go 9 Wesco. 9.5 is roomy.
Wesco, Nicks, Whites, can’t go wrong with any of them, personal preference like Ford, Chevy or Dodge, Bud v Coors etc.
Smokey 66 I agree, except coors is better than bud. Coors has a lovely metallic hollow taste.
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Scap-pooose. It's just north of Portland. For those of you who have never lived in Washington, be thankful one of your beloved bootmakers isn't located in Puyallup or Sequim.
As a black man I feel better supporting Americana than chinese robot built boots.
Dudes out here seriously thinking that just because the leather is on a Nick's boot its different from the exact same leather on a Red Wing
Bob- There’s no comparison. Ingredients and construction are completely different.
@@sbreslin41 no they aren't lol their actually virtually the same apart from the insole and midsole
I don't know why you'd spend almost as much on a non custom Danner boot, rather than these bad boys.
You pronounced Vibram correctly.
Curtis- Why do you have to come at me like that? I don’t pretend to be someone I’m not. Doesn’t mean I don’t know these boots, or can’t have an opinion. I appreciate you, anyways!
It wasn't my intention to come off the way I did and for that I apologize. I'm just saying you don't use the boots hard enough for your review to be useful for me. You absolutely can have a opinion. But you would have to use the boots hard to be able to really know the boots. Again this is not meant to be a insult just a observation.
Curtis Perry that is some broad brush you’re using there. You definition of “hard enough” is going to be different then the next person. My fire boots and work boots are used harder then your boots are guaranteed without a doubt and because I take very good care of my boots they do not appear to be used “hard enough”. If you look closely at them you can see the hard days and the many hours spent in them. Then again I do not judge someone based off what their boots look like, I judge them based off their work. To each their own I guess
I can tell the difference in boots taken care of but used hard and boots that are used for a fashion statement. Anyone that knows anything about boots can for that matter. I'm glad you use your boots hard not sure why I need to know how you use your boots but that's nice. To each their own I guess. Have a nice day and keep using them boots hard.
@@JC-kv1vn If they show hard use they aren't boots used purely for a fashion statement. Fashion statement boots can't show hard use. The two simply don't mix.