Kuzan has one major advantage over anyone in the world. He can effortlessly drive a bike on ice for miles. He's worlds strongest cyclist, only outclassed by Mumen rider from OPM.
Since Sanji is being built up to be crazy fast I feel like his fight with Kizaru is gonna be insane. Some crazy choreography and intense high speed movement. I feel like Sanji is gonna have to gain Future Sight at some point to keep up tho
I think it's reasonable to assume Akainu has future sight. In Marineford, he was attacked by Marco and Vista and called them "Haki users", indicating they attacked him with haki. And yet he only took the damage to his magma form, not his actual body. This mimics the ability used by Katakuri to use future sight and mold your body around the haki infused attacks.
The ice admiral did the same when whitebeard impaled him. If thats the argument then he’d have it as well. I say No to both. Im sure they just have a mastery over manipulating their bodies against haki users and not having overconfidence on it like a certain Lightning and swamp boi we know. Thats what was said to set them apart from the strong since way back in fish-man island when swamp boi got decimated for his overconfidence. If you cant get over that hurdle, you’d just be another smoker with a stronger attack potency.
@@tevinm4292 I forgot that Aokiji did that. To me, that makes the argument even stronger. They both have mastery over manipulating their bodies against haki, yes. In order to be able to do that, you need to know where you will get hit by haki so as to manipulate a hole there. That's future sight, as directly demonstrated and explained by Katakuri.
My thoughts exactly. The only explanation that Luffy's future sight arent used right now was only bcoz their Haki is stronger or they are just too fast for Luffy to react.
@@Flumong but you dont need haki to learn how to dodge things. You can naturally level up your sense of perception. Take luffy or zoro for example. They have been shown, countless tomes pre timeskip, to easily dodge a volley of arrows or bullets shot at them or even deflect it outright. Amazon lilly for example, or luffy dodging the celestial dragons gunshot, same with zoro before he was stopped from killing one. The examples go on for them and multiple others. If we step back, majority of logias WE KNOW are high tier with their abilities. But they are like that because they aren’t overconfident with their devil fruit. They took the time out to dodge and always air on the side of caution unless they know their opponent doesn’t have haki. Those with arrogant dispositions like enel, smoker and the swamp guy feel invincible at all times therefore whats the point? In other words, inexperienced. Same with luffy. In the Z movie he was shot with a seaprism bullet and was berated for being overconfident in his devil fruit abilities and not dodging when he knew he could’ve. Kata and luffy are the only ones who have shown that ability to see into the future. Hell, with basic observation you can dodge attacks and predict “trajectories”. I respect your opinion but i disagree without us getting more to work with.
"If Luffy does take down Kaido there is literally nothing that can stop him from taking down any character in the entire world." Nami has entered the chat.
There is a flaw to that. It wouldn't have nothing to fear if he take down Kaido on ONE go. He already got beaten once in that fight, and just now he is fighting in a battle of attrition. But Luffy tends to need several goes to defeat a foe. Doflamingo, Cracker, Katakuri, Kaido. All fights of several rounds.
@@alejandroyava it's a direct qoute from the video. My point is no matter how powerful he gets Nami one shots him. I thought it was pretty obvious you know with the quotation marks and the standard someone superior has entered the chat format.
@@robertosborn9910 why would nami 1-shot him? Her most powerful abilities are lightning based, and we all know how well that worked on Luffy with Enel...
@@juiceart9199 do you read the manga or watch the anime she "one shots" both Luffy and Sanji on a regular basis? It's an on going gag, literally every fan knows this.
We should beat Kizaru because he is the only Admiral who didn’t subscribe to GrandLineReview which would've resulted in consistent injection of One Piece content directly into his RUclips feed.
This would imply that Akainu is subscribed to GrandLineReview, which resulted to consistent One Piece content directly into his youtube feed, which is quite a terrifying thought.
Man. Your video has saved my life today. Just watched it as I was going through turbulent times and it has given me that bit of light to keep going. Thank you in no small part Liam.
Fujitora and Kuzan didn't even break a sweat when Doflamingo seemed to be their opponent! Imagine how strong they must be, if an opponent of that level is not even worthy of scaring them.
Of course.It's a shame they couldn't touch him though.That's what happens when your opponent has a whole political party with his side.Ecen if you defeat him he still wins.And that's why Fujitora allowed Luffy to enter Dressrosa and fight Doflamingo.
I think an interesting idea could be the minor straw hats growing in strength and eventually team take down kizaru since he was the main threat at sabaody that forced kuma to split them up. I really just want to see a straw hat team battle against anyone really. Kinda tired of one vs ones all the time.
Yeah hoping elbaf focuses on ussop and chopper getting power ups IF we see the strawhats go there, maybe nami can add some sort of haki to her weather? Like haki coated lighting, I'm sure it's possible. Would be really cool to see them start catching up to the monster trio a little more. Frankly and Brook also need more attention with power ups, I wonder if oda will bother with them.
@@tachi5408 namis power up should be going back to the way she was in enies lobby but stronger. You remember when she used temperature and weather to be cool? Whereas now she just has an egg and a bubble that both do the exact same thing
@@tachi5408 If this is a spoiler for you I'm sorry. But I'm assuming you have OP to date in this kind of videos. If seen people theorize that usopp will get Kanjuro's fruit a while ago (he would really give it good use and already did things like that dressrossa) and since 1036 with him reaching kin'emon and kiku in the same room kinjuro died and all the plants usopp ussess I wouldn't be surprised if he has a fruit in his bag that would inherit the powers. That would really be a good power up for usopp. As for chopper I am really disappointed since neither in the zou arc (his zoan is clearly hito hito model mink) nor in the arc with all the damn zoans in the world did his df have any damn spotlight. So I don't even know anymore
What's interesting is that while we haven't seen an Admiral straight up lose a fight, we saw a lot of fights with them at Marineford that didn't get to fully play out. Every time Whitebeard or one of the commanders took on an Admiral, they'd hold their own but then the fight would be either be interrupted or it would just come to a halt out of the blue, and we wouldn't have a clear victor. Well, except for Jozu, he clearly lost to Aokiji.
True, although nothing against Jozu, but it could be argued that it was his own fault. Plus seeing as it only took one attack to take him out, I'm not sure if he was capable of winning anyway. It would've been interesting to see though
@@otakuedits426 so he lost… getting distracted in a war is death. But any admiral can mid diff old beard lol. That’s why the commanders distracted them from getting to wb. Salasuki with one foot stopped a gura infused strike as well that’s a good strength feat. One on one of. Sakasuki best wb. Wb just had huge plot armor. Two holes in the chest and half his head missing yet he lives. But mf online say akainu had plot armor on taking bloodlusted gura infused punch 💀
You've completely missed Sanji's core attribute: Speed. All his attacks revolve around dealing a barrage/ a multitude of consecutive strikes. Also, he can move so fast that even Queen couldn't see him. Zoro has damage, Sanji has speed, and Luffy has both plus durability.
Sanji also has Observation. Luffy is a jack of all trades, and doesn't really count. Sanji and Zoro are basically foils. Sanji shines in using speed, and favors Observation over Armament. Zoro is the opposite. Sanji is ALSO a glass canon compared to Zoro tho. Not that it matters, the Monster Trio died the momment Jinbei joined. And with the way things are going, Yamato is probably next.
@@nuzlocke2266 Ehhh, even though Jinbei and Yamato are very powerful, I think the monster trio is still above those two. Sanji's body can tank bullets now, and he is so fast not even Queen could see his movements. Zoro can cut an entire mountain in half, and he has all 3 Haki types. Luffy is just a monster. Jinbei is strong, but he wasn't even top three among the warlords. And Yamato is strong, but she hasn't really proven herself. AKA we haven't seen much from her, other than that she managed to hold Kaido back a while (which is impressive) So all in all, I think the Monster Trio will still be the Monster Trio, those new two will be directly below the Trio, then we have Usopp, Franky, Brook, Robin, Chopper and Nami.
Kizaru is my favourite admiral. Although I don’t think any character should defeat an admiral in battle by the straw hats but I’d love to see the admirals slowly realize that they are outclassed by pirates
I think the strawhats will definitely defeat some admirals. Like Zoro definitely gotta beat Fujitora if he's gonna be known as the world strongest swordsman. And I feel like at the end of one piece Sanji would be able to handle a admiral and the best match for him would be Kizaru imo.
The strength of an admiral is hard to determine, because their strength is in their title. They are top tier. Whatever top tier is or becomes, they are there until shown otherwise, so the question really is "have we been introduced to all the powers yet or not?" A decade or two ago if you asked what is an admiral's strength, we'd have said "They have the strongest logia type powers. Logias stand on top of the world, and they have the best ones." and when haki got introduced, the answer became "strong logias and strongest hakis". When advanced hakis get introduced "Yeah they have them", and with advanced conqueror's haki, we can pretty safely assume that they have that as well. If more powers get introduced, they can do that too.
I don't think they have conquerors coating, other than sakazuki. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows. I don't think it fits their character to have CoC, and their reactions at marineford IMO hint at this.
I don’t think admirals have the ability to be kings. That’s why they have broken fruits because they don’t have advanced conquerors. The only that I think has is Garp, sakasuki, and possibly sengoku since they are leaders and they defy the Teryubitos and they are not their lap dogs as shown when sakasuki defied the scum orders.
@@maikoharo495 It's not about how one gets it, but the plot necessity of it. Conqueror's haki was something that was meant for kings. Now everyone can do it. Voice of all things was a thing that only Roger had, and when Luffy heard it, was amazing. Now we have Roger, Luffy, Kaido, Momonosuke and Law. It's been normalized. As more powers get introduced, "The Peak" keeps going further and further away. Without people in "The Peak", the Navy would simply collapse because of lack of fighting power. Apparently Advanced Conqueror's bearers are almost immune to damage from those who don't have it. At this point, you could have a fight between a "mere" advanced armament logia admiral and a true blue conqueror, but if anything more comes up, advanced conqueror's becomes a bare necessity to fight them. I personally hope it won't go that far. Law and Kid beat Big Mom with great struggle. I hope that's where the climb to power ends. At this point I actually also agree the admirals don't have it, but shounens tend to climb, and if so, it will be a necessity.
Kizaru feels like a legitimate target for talk no jutsu to work on. Dude just has a very cavalier change of heart about what justice he's serving and that is very much keeping with his mercurial nature.
i strongly disagree. I see Kizaru more of a guy who just doesnt think that deep, doesnt care, is stubborn, even, and could never be talk no jutsued. The only two possible would be Kuzan and Fujitora
nah he'd be the one person talk no jutsu wouldn't work on. I could see it working on akainu before it works on kizaru. It's that general indifference about the intricacies of what he's doing that makes it impossible to talk him out of it
I'd say Aokiji has the most versatile fruit, seeing as so much of this pirate show revolves around sea travel. Dude can practically terraform an entire battlefield, even freeze ice bridges from one island to the next. No other admiral can do these sort of things.
@@codyphipps334 I think you missed the point of the comment, hes talking about how aokiji can freeze the legit sea , like he did when we first met him on that island, oh and also on marineford
@@Pove no? My imagination is that he pumps magma into the sea until either a) the magma cools into solid rock that he can just walk across or b) the ocean is boiled away and he can just walk across the ocean floor
I love it when people recognise Sanji's skills. Freaking clever, freaking good looking, fights with his legs in a breakdance style which is freaking cool, cutest childlike enthusiastic behaviour , he is so expressive with his emotions, so loyal and devoted... And you know what they say... Love goes through the stomach... And sanji... Is (almost confirmed) the most skilled chef in the series... and if not, he's definitely top3.
I think to think when it comes to observation haki, everyone has the basics, then develop specialities: luffy's future sight, zoro's extended presence sensory, usopp's sniper sight, sanji emotion and intention
@@yungdiddy better in what sense? I'm just saying zoro's is wider, comes with being a swordsman. I would say sanji's is much more precise and detailed in terms of emotional intent and sizing up opponents
fujitora seems to have an advanced application of both zoro and sanji's observation but future sight seems redundant due to his advance sense of emotional intent
I just want to point out that the fight between Sanji and Queen was way more one sided than Zoro's fight In my opinion Sanji has just as good a chance against an admiral on speed alone never mind all the other factors
imagine fighting with queen while havine identity crisis and panick attack. Sanji wasn't even thinking much about defeating queen.. well after his small convo with zoro that's the time he just focus on queen. Thinking how to increase his flame and beat queen in combo.
Robin and Franky deserve to have at least one type of haki too. 💔 Rather all the Straw hats need it and it should only make sense for they’ve all been continuously gaining more experience battle-wise since day one.
To me the hypest thing would be beating a tenryuubito up, and then beating the admiral sent after. That would be an ultimate display of just how powerful the mugiwara are and how they are a true yonkou and free pirate, basically being powerful enough to not give a shit about any rules.
The thing that held luffy back vs akainu in the new world was touching logia types, especially akainus magma. Now with this conquerors haki, it's time to finally fight him without touching
Personally I would say that Akainu was defeated at Marineford, even though he didn't stay down. He was down for a while and didn't get back up to face Whitebeard again.
in my head-canon he was beat. it just didnt make any sense to recieve the strongest attack from the strongest man to just walk it off 5 seconds later, i call a flaw in writing.
@@ondrejmachovsky2654 the only flaw is you guys who dosen't want to acknowledge the admirals power and durability and endurance. Akainu CAN'T be down after just 2 attacks, REGARDLESS of how power they are
@@tarikizgua1835 Well whitebeard was sick otherwise healthy whitebeard can easily beat the crap out of him and that's why when shanks appeared infront of akainu he didn't do anything because he knew that shanks is not sick like whitebeard.
@@ИванКузнецов-м7в8ы pretty sure shanks said thats hes losing his arm was a bet for luffy🤣and its really obvious akainu didnt move when shanks stand in front of him lol thats prime shanks lol not old sick wb not to mention even akainu was getting beat the shit out of him by old sick wb😂
@@elmichellangelo He would have a long hard battle but it would be a win. Yonkou-level are stronger than Admirals. Otherwise what would stop the Marines from just hunting them down? The Yonkou crews so far seem unbeatable by Marines.
@@bantukspersonal4144 I dont understand why you're trying to downplay this. What makes Kaidou weakened? How about the FACT that Luffy was sabotaged and recovered from an assassination attempt? Also Luffy has been fighting just as long.
@@ShiroRX hewas fighting non stop first he fought the elite samurais, 2nd four of the strongest worst generation, then Luffy, his daughter(his daughter told monosukue that Kaido is very tired tired thats why he can no longer controll Onigashima) then luffy again, luffy again for the 3rd time with no rest.Imagine since the battle started he has no time to rest and received some serious injuries, while Luffy got some rest after he was defeated twice. Oda put that line, to let us know that some of Kaido's downfall is because he was tired and received a lot of injury, BigMom was also defeated because he was outsmarted by Law. Oda has 4 years left before finishing the manga, making Luffy unstoppable too early, it will be a boring story line kjust like boruto
My theory is that kizaru will be defeated by blackbeard which will be the "big news" about him post wano. Light vs Darkness seems like a fight waiting to happen (I'm most likely wrong tho lmao)
@@MrBananajoePL I said a slight chance because we dont know yet if there are some weaknesses to his df powers and akainu is still a very capable fighter
When it comes to Sanji, people must've said this before, but I haven't seen it anywhere so I'll comment on it anyways. Invisibility, realistically, is just the ability to make _light pass through you._ Now against whom could that come in handy? Sanji's Stealth Black is basically the perfect counter to Kizaru's fruit. He often gets the short end of the stick in these discussions, but at the moment his power set is the only one out of the monster trio that's a direct counter to an admiral's abilities. And since Sanji is often depicted as fighting Kizaru specifically, this fits even better. Calling it now, this is the direction Oda is going with it.
Bro, Sanji doesn't have his raid suit anymore, so that invisibility is not a thing for him anymore. What he displayed near the end of his fight with Queen was extreme speed, which Queen couldn't keep up with, hence why he couldn't see him.
The suit could just, ya know, be repaired? They've got Franky on the crew. If not repaired he could just repurpose or reverse-engineer the technology of it. (Actually that's probably more likely for design reasons.) Turn it into a belt buckle or something lol It feels unusual to introduce a whole new power set for Sanji just to instantly remove and ignore it, don't you think? Especially when it works so well with this matchup that's been hinted at since like the second anime opening or something.
I really think that the Monster Trio will fight and beat the admirals… at some point in the story I‘m betting on high diff fights…. But they probably won‘t be the last fights of the story
Ehhh Luffy obviouslywill win cause of shitty plot armour Zoro maybe but Sanji ehhh idk dude kizaru has never gone serious once in his life if he does against Sanji omg it's over
@@Zvontracy how long has the show been going on? y’all do realize he gotta become stronger than them eventually and idk why it has to be cuz of plot armor.
Since the idea of tropes is coming up with the Luffy getting main character power ups more often, I think it'd be interesting to see the "2nd in charge is way stronger than 1st in charge" thing with Kizaru and Akainu. We already know with characters like Garp that rank alone doesn't equal strength. Maybe Kizaru just had no interest in the position but is low key the strongest?
He'd have to do some pretty impressive stuff to prove that. Akainu battled WB (though old and sick was still recognized as the strongest man in the world) and was tanking blows and putting up a good fight, even taking off half of his face. Then he battled with Aokiji for 10 days and changed the climate of an island. If Kizaru was stronger than Akainu. There was no good reason for them to not keep going at marinford. They could've put BB down easy, Akainu could've managed that alone, and then jumped the Red Haired pirates
There used to be a time when this conversation ( Monster Trio vs the Admirals ) was considered farfetched. Now looking at Wano its can very well happen.
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I can see that basic Shonen set up happening, and id love to see a set up where Luffy is fighting Akainu (because Ace) while Zoro takes on Fujitora and Sanji Kizaru. As for Greenbull, i dont Really know? But i think Ussop would be a great option. Between his plant based attacks (going with the idea that Greenbull has a plant based Devil Fruit) and itd be a great call back all the way to Arlong Park where they were the big four
Honestly in my personal opinion I'd say that 1 Yonko is equivalent to 1.5 admirals otherwise I find it hard to believe they wouldn't have taken them all down by now, especially with Akainu as the current fleet admiral.
i feel the commanders of a yanko are able to hold off an admiral for a time but not beat them. so not only is the yonko able to beat 1 and put up a good fight against 2 but also their crew can play distraction for a good bit of time.
I diss agree. Kizaru would’ve went to wano and fight Kaido or Bigmom if Akainu let him. If Fujitora and Ryokugyu went to take down Bigmom and Kaido, they have a chance with the better devil fruit. Beast pirates would be extinct if Fujitora went.
It's shown multiple times that The Navy is impeded in it's mission by The World Nobles and their agendas. Akainu vs Aokiji had a much wider area of environmental damage than any Yonko duel we've seen yet; and we only caught a glimpse of their power. WB got his brains vaporized, internal organs cooked and multiple holes blown out of him by an Akainu that was holding back immensely to avoid destroying Marineford. It took WB going all-out and destroying the entire island to do any lasting damage to a held-back Akainu. 1 Admiral is 1 Yonko, and that's being generous.
ALSO when it comes to strategies, the admirals don't necessarily have that much of an advantage over luffy. We know that while fighting luffy can come up with weird strategies of his own that sometimes catch his opponents off guard
Sanji does not need advanced haki because of scientific power. If you notice, one piece now put a lot of emphasis on the power of science that can rival DF. They abolished the Warlords in favour of Vegapunks robot and Germa have been shown to overcome Big Moms generals with science alone. Plus Queen is the left hand man of Kaido with scientific augmentation as well.
I highly doubt Luffy can’t solo an admiral after besting Kaido, except if they wear them out first as a team like Doffy and Kaido that’s borderline acceptable. Luffy solos. Zoro & Sanji duos.
Luffy is fighting an injuried Kaidou, he still isn’t on Yonkou/Admiral And we have seen character of that power level dealing with more than one commander, so Sanji and Zoro still are stomped by the admirals
No, the whole corpse power isn't the same as having the actual person on their team. You have to consider that someone's shadow who isn't roger has to be in the corpse and control it. And it's a corpse. If pre timeskip zoro could beat a wano legend under who was used by Morias corpse power, I think its safe to say that Roger wouldn't be nearly as strong when he was alive.
@@scoresdavis3435 I wasn't actually making that argument as much as I was pointing out the possibility. Of course it depends on whether or not they actually get their hands on Roger's corpse in the first place, and then whether or not they have a suitable shadow secondly. But we're talking about Blackbeard here, if he DID have Roger's corpse and plan to use it with Moria's ability he'd make sure the shadow was also powerful. Like how Moria put Luffy's shadow in Oars. More to the point, the strength of the body definitely matters, so any shadow would also be stronger thanks to using Roger's body, just like Brook's shadow in Ryuma was stronger than Brook because Ryuma's strength factored into it.
Enjoying your power scale breakdown videos! 1 thing I would give Sanji that you neglected to speak on is his speed and observation haki. I dont think that conquerors is end all be all. Although ,the conquerors haki coating is a big win. Sanjis speed + germa powers could have him on the level of Borsalino post Wano. When he gains full understanding of his current powers (outside of his ifrit jambe) speaking more towards his speed and invisibility. I could see Sanji defeating Borsalino. Would like to see you collaborate with BDA, VinlanD for chapter breakdown discussions.
I think it was hinted that Sanji might and I mean Might by stretching it have AOH (future sight) or something close. Remember on the whole cake wedding cake thing where Katakuri shot a jellybean at him which he dodged. A guy who can use future sight and used it I think. But it might be that he either didn't or was not calm enough to use it. Who knows we just need to wait and see if he does have an advancement of any haki or not. Also am I the only one thinking that Sanji should have Conqueror's Haki I mean he has the Vinsmoke/Germa blood and they are a royalty. Before someone starts saying we don't need any other Straw hat using CH Zoro is enough, he doesn't need it etc. Roger's crew had more than two people who could use it just saying.
@@salmanrafique3171 yep but we only need confirmation. I mean it feels like Sanji is still kind of left behind when it comes to Haki power ups. So I hope Oda Sensei has some good plans for him.
Been saying this since that happened, it would mean Sanji could foresee not only the father with the gun but also Katakuri foreseeing that and him shooting a jellybeen. This is confirmed as Katakuri himself said he was gonna dodge the father's bullet, who then shot the bean that sanji also foresaw. Thats entire sequences not seconds thats hes foreseeing and in that case was faster than Katakuri technically, idk why ppl dont talk about it. If thats not a Oda tease idk what is
@@MaxBrauns You see most people are Zoro or Luffy fans that Sanji gets left behind kind of so he doesn't get the spotlight. I mean most people started liking Sanji due to his back story. I like all the guys for what they are but Sanji is a bit special because I love his fighting style.
6:25 Okay now I just imagined Sanji improvising a bit of a lava cooking recipe IN THE MIDDLE OF A THREE ON ONE ON SAKAZUKI. Sakazuki: DAI FUNKA!!! Sanji: MEAT SHIELD!! [meat sizzling] Hey mosshead! heads up! Zorro: *cut his steak into slice in the air* Sakazuki: RYUSEI KAZAN!!! Sanji: MEAT SHIELDS!! [meat sizzling intensifies] Sanji: Hey Luffy!! Your jumbo steaks are ready!!
You have to question the Admirals motivation to go against any Emperor, but I'm sure if Akainu was confident he would beat any or all of them, he would have already 🤷♂️ Obviously it's Oda's call in the end BUT, just going by what we know so far.
Or he hasn’t because it doesn’t make sense for the story. Also consider the losses the marines would take going up against a yonko crew. Probably not worth it. 1v1 I think akainu could take big mom and maybe even Kaido. I mean kaido has been defeated and captured by marines multiple times already.
Considering that everything after the timeskip happened in a matter of weeks, including all of luffys power ups I think it is fair to say that after wano, if another emperor or admiral is not already in wano, noone in the one piece world can beat luffy anymore. Even if we assume that shanks is stronger than kaido, until they meet a few weeks will pass so luffy will be a lot stronger.
Luffy only really grows stronger when forced to. Haki blooms in battle. Luffy gets stronger if his opponent forces him to get stronger so I'd expect Shanks to still maybe be a little bit ahead but when and if they battle Luffy will surpass him
Not when Yonko are in their own territory with huge firepower and numbers in their favour... I doubt Marines have enough manpower to target a Yonko in their own Turf, while having enough back to protect the Marine HQ, in case another Yonko decides to clean the base... Manpower is quite less, precisely why they needed the Warlord system... Now they are hoping SSGs can give them the firepower and the numbers... Mind you, We are yet to see even one SSG in action, or even see one at all... Oda is waiting for SSGs to make epic entry... I expect at least 4 warlords dead/captured, by the time Wano Arc is done...
Kizaru wanted but Akainu didn't allow that because they don't know anything about wano military, meanwhile admirals fought old Whitebeard which was still the Strongest yonko, but not 3v1 but all of them did longer or shorter 1v1 without dying and doing heavy hits
having haki isn't enough to win the fisty cuff; as shown by amazon lilly; haki only applifies; haki can still lose to brute force. Strength[Brute] x Will[haki] = Power.
@@mrmehdi4745 He just said haki in general. When making his general statment joke about if u got haki u win if they don't but haki when introduced; first thing they established force can overpower haki. Theirs currently nothing that suggests you can't overpower advanced haki with force. However the amount of force required to overpower would be insane. For advanced haki i would say Force + Haki* = power. *= squared. Conqurerors
Honestly back in the day, the very idea of facing off against the Admirals was like playing an RPG and facing off against the final boss three times at once.
I think Luffy can beat an admiral with extreme difficulty Zoro and Sanji not so much in my opinion , they will be approaching that level of power soon , but for right now I don’t see either of them winning. They’re definitely at the upper ends of the commanders tho.
Sanji demonstrated enormous Damage capabilities that looks like around admiral tier..... I mean it's not everyone who can sen a brachio/cyborg worth 1.32 bill away from an island and still flying ...
its not like he only hit queen once, you're blowing this way out of the water. remember enel... remember doflamingo when luffy activated gear fourth.. i seriously think it was just signification that he "did it" and "overcame them" like how most fights go in one piece. because enel was 500,000 bounty, and got blown away by luffy.
I agree with the admiral strength right behind the yonko. Luffy definitely, Zoro I think he can too (with high to extreme difficulty), Sanji I would say possibly but it with be extreme difficulty. I think Zoro and Sanji are closer in strength then most believe, but if you look at their fights Sanji always wins with less difficulty than Zoro so I wouldn’t count him out
Just because a character has haki, doesn't automatically make them strong or stronger then another character. Perfect example Buu vs Funk Brothers or all of amazon lily who have at least armament haki.
This is true. We have seen on several occasions now that while haki is powerful, it can be overpowered by speed and strength that surpasses the skill of the haki
Zoro vs Pica laid it out pretty bare. The stronger Haki wins. Amason Lily is a HORRIBLE example, because only Hancock herself was worth anything by the upper New World standards.
Not when you have extraordinary levels of Haki like Luffy. No one is a threat to him anymore. He will literally take on everyone right now.. Zorro who we assumed to have unlocked Advanced Conqueror user is also extremely powerful right now. While he still might not be in top 15, he is definitely a serious threat to anyone below YC1 level.. Sanji already have good Armament and Observation. His recent powerups literally improved his Offense and defense drastically.. He's quite a monster right now. Probably at top 20 currently..
@@nuzlocke2266 1. You didnt bring up Buu. 2. For Amazon Lilly I'm just using everyone else's train of thought. "Haki beats all despite they're actually strength " 3. Zoro won because he was stronger and Pica was weaker. It's the character that lost, not haki power levels. If a character with haki fights a character without haki, it's not a automatic W for the haki guy. It helps, but I think peaple overthink haki a bit.
@@geckomoriafanboy8037 I don't know any Buu. I know of a Boo tho, but I don't care for Buu the filler character. And no, Zoro won because his haki was stronger than Pica's, so he cut through him like butter. They literally state this in the fight. If a character with haki fights someone without it, it's *usually* an automatic win. There are exceptions, case and point: Nami vs Ulti.
Admirals have ONE weakness... they depend too much on their Logia Powers. In fact, before the Timeskip, all the Admirals were Logia, who, as a general rule, trust too much on their invesibility to actually defend themselves when something attacks them. Kizaru was repeled several times for someone with good Observation Haki. Aokiji defended himself will when he attacked Whitebeard, but was then hurt by Jozu. Akainu got his ass kicked by Whitebeard. The marines seem to have understanded their lesson, and the new admirals doesn't have neccesarely Logia powers. Fujitora is a Paramecia, and we still don't know Ryokugyu´s abilities.
It wasn’t much more than a year ago that you said even EOS Luffy could lose to an Admiral. Good to see you finally giving Luffy the respect he deserves 👍
"If you think there is one character, that can defeat the monster trio all at once." Well, of course we do, silly. We know him since Chapter 1. His name is *Whoop Slap* ! He's called so for a reason! Because he whoops! And he slaps!
We haven't seen him for a while, sadly his voice actor is dead. His last role was incenaroar in smash, he played old Joseph Joestar with his famous "OOOOOOHHH MMMMY GOOOD!!!"
You forgot that Luffy strengthened his regular devil fruit disabled body (while in seastone cuffs) to ridiculous levels thus improving his resistance to seastone and improving his devil fruit imbued powers! Imagine Superman developing a resistance to kryptonite
Well not entierly. 1. We have seen lufy been taken out by thw warden of the Udon prison 2. We know it was stated that those cuffs were not pure sea stone, leaving just enough power in the prisoners that they could work. Thus I conclude that he is not resistant but not as impaired.
I think one of the mistakes Oda made, coming out of the time skip, was not giving Franky, Robin and possibly Brooke basic armament haki. Franky was already one of the stronger mid tier fighters coming out of water 7/Enis Lobby and Robin was basically a spy who specialized in assassinations. Training with Hack and Koala could've naturally lead to this, story wise. Brooke is a toss up but I feel basic use with his swordsmanship could've gone a long way.
@@tillah7407 I mean, this arc clearly showed the need for armament. You don't need to be or fight a commander to use Haki. Big Mom has wayyyyy more Tobbi Roppo equivalent children that aren't commanders and can probably use Haki. You can't expect Luffy, Zoro, Sanji or Jinbe to do ALL the fighting or come save the day at every turn, do you? And consistency wise, if you have fights where Franky is defeating a top Yonko combatant (worth 300 M plus) WITHOUT Haki, there's a problem
Genuinely speaking, if fujitora has an awakened devil fruit and uses gravity the millions of different ways you can, i dont think anyone could lay a finger on him especially because he knows with his advanced observation so there would be almost no way to BEAT him but thats not saying he can beat all 3 of them alone
I think luffy definitely can fight an admiral one on one and win high difficulty. Between mastery of all 3 haki types, crazy endurance, and power to split the sky, he definitely can win; though kizaru is probably the hardest matchup for luffy now. Zoro is the hardest definitive answer; ill tentatively say no because Zoro fighting style of "get the shit kicked out of you and land a one hit ko" is a horrible matchup against kizarus speed. Fujitora is a much more favorable matchup for zoro because fuji seems to be more reliant on his hax. While a much weaker zoro has broken out of his gravity hax before, we have to remember fujitoras bare minimum hax still had that version of zoro bleeding. Zoro vs fujitora is too close to call in my opinion; though gun to my head, I'd pick fujitora to win. Sanji I'll also say no. Hes always used to being the faster fighter; which wouldn't be the case against kizaru; and fujitora hax is a horrible matchup for sanji.
I think for this discussion there is a point that you may want to consider which is during I think it was between Punk Hazard and Dressrosa, when Law was on call with Doffy, Law basically tells Doffy after destroying his SAD stuff on Punk Hazard that he basically has to choose between pissing off Kaido or the Navy sending admirals at him. And Doffy chose to try and keep Kaido happy because that's how much more scary the thought of Kaido and the Beast Pirates were than the Admirals
When Kizaru Awakens and truly becomes the speed of light and possesses infinite energy (as any mass moving at the speed of light has infinite energy and therefore cannot exist) He will Solo the verse! 💡
all though I don't really think Sanji could win against an admiral, I do think he could be a problem cause presumably, he has advanced observation haki he even was able to dodge a katakuri bullet in the manga and I don't know if that's even possible without having observation haki
Personally, I think that Big Mom is the best bet to defeat the monster trio. (Not that she's an admiral tho) She is a woman, so Sanji can't attack her. So, essentially, it'll just be Zoro & Luffy VS Big Mom, but I still dunno if Big Mom can beat that level of power.
Current base luffy is equivalent to hybrid kaido. Zoro provided some trouble before even mastering adv coc and Enma. The current zoro tho not on the level of yonkos yet have AP that could be seen as comparable to them and luffy being already on the same level of big mom she can't hope to 2 v 1 luffy and zoro
@@justsomeguy4955 I don't. It's just if u go back to chapter 1026 it's clearly indicated luffy is nerfed too along with kaido, In the same dialogue where it mentions kaido is somewhat nerfed
@@Maartun even if he attack bm he can't damage her either way it's useless tbh. No disrespect to sanji but to hurt her u need either adv coc, internal damage or kidd level AP. Sanji can take some hits tho
Literally the ONLY reference we have for this, is Sakazuki vs Marco. In the paramount war, Marco tried to stop the la Sakazuki from attacking/killing Luffy and got overpowered pretty easily. Marco also fought Kuzan and Kizaru to very temporary standstill though, so he may just have been tired or had an elemental advantage with Kuzan. Either way, I’d say in a 1 on 1 fight, an admiral will beat Marco, with some effort. And in Wano, Marco held back both king and queen for a time by himself. In short, the admirals are at minimum somewhere between Whitebeard and Marco in strength. So they question is, could Whitebeard beat Kaido, Big Mom or Shanks, in the state he was in at Marinford. Honestly….I’m doubtful. Let me explain. Whitebeard in his Full power prime, could likely beat ANYONE short of Roger himself. But his isn’t who fought at Marinford. What we got was a man who, very early in, got stabbed thru the chest and was already on his deathbed before that. So I’d say that was maybe 70% power on a good day. So I’d say an admiral is, at most, 60% of Whitebeards full power. But that is just a guess. Just like is a guess on where KAIDO at full power is as in Wano, Kaido has fought the following people before his current final battle with Luffy. The 9 scabbards Luffy, Kid, Law, Zoro and kids 2nd in command (though that was with big moms help) Yamamoto Luffy again And now Awakened Luffy So even if Luffy wins this fight. He is not definitively equal to Kaido. In short, the admirals strength at the moment, is whatever the plot needs them to be. Just like Mihawk.
Thank you for bringing up the conflict between Sakazuki and Whitebeard cause seriously, my head will never wrap around the fact that Sakazuki simply just got up and walked off a blow he took from an enraged emperor that literally made the entire marineford crumble to pieces and should have been fatal.
@@didntaskyou7884 you know he's is like (even though my headcanon is kizaru being strongest of all ) he seems to be strongest admiral now fleet admiral but still plus you know he is like that unstoppable force and his body is fully committed to his mind and his will kinda like protagonist plot armor being his endless will he has his own version of it
The five elder stars will be the real threat that Luffy Zoro and maybe Sanji will have to face. I see ussop and Sanji facing off against kizaru. And Jimbe and Sabo (IF he's still alive) versing Sakazuki.
@@Rex-yp1qb because I see Kizaru as the hardest admiral to counter with abilities of the straw hats, Ussop would be able to track him with observation haki, Nami could use weather to create light manipulation, but I don't see either being able to do damage against a logia light user capable of haki, I think Sanji would be the more reasonable option to be able to land critical blows against him.
@@tarikizgua1835 I think it'd be an interesting battle, water/fishman karate and the flare flare haki user versing off against the magma man, both with reason to want to face off against him for the death of Ace.
This whole argument of "One has conq haki coating therefore theyre stronger" really doesnt make much sense. It just blatantly ignores so many factors such as proficiency with Conq coating, devil fruit advantages, speed advantages, random hax abilities, or even the fact that new conq haki users will surely be revealed. On top of that you then have to make headcanon assumptions for which conq haki users can actually use it or not, logically Shanks or even BB should be able to but theres 0 proof they can, so is Zoro now > both of them on paper? No bc him having conq coating doesnt magically boost all of his other stats in a fight that are just as neccesary as AP 💀. Edit: I wanna touch on the proficiency topic a bit more, the fact two conq haki users can vary in proficiency means that there is a scale as to how effective a characters conq coating is comparatively. Therefore logically it would make sense that there are characters who are so proficient with say their DF or Armament Haki that they do more damage then a not so proficient conq coating user.
You should tag Brago (BDA Law) in this. For the past year or 2 he's been trying to convince his listeners that the admirals = the emperors. When this whole idea should have been squashed from Marineford. The weakest emperor of the sea, an old and half dead Whitebeard took all the marines on including multiple admirals and they still couldn't beat him. They all struggled with the strongest of the admirals very luckily surviving death. Oda done made it clear to me already the order of power in the verse.
Its very clear there's a reason strawhats is fighting yonko first and admirals later on if yonkos are really > admiral then it doesn't makes sense that after the war against the yonkos they will be fighting much weaker opponents especially in the last war lol
Fujitora does use Haki in dressrosa when pushing against the birdcage with everyone else actually, although that doesn't say much about his mastery of the technique.
The moment Zoro went Conqueror’s Haki Coating and finished King, I said that we only need Luffy to beat Kaido now for the Straw Hats to be the second greatest pirate crew in the world and them being able to beat the 4 admirals. If Luffy can defeat Kaido 1 v 1, he will definitely smoke Akainu and when Zoro and Sanji actually master their new abilities, I think that both of them can beat admirals. Zoro would beat Fujitora and Sanji would have to beat Kizaru (this is the most difficult battle) and either Jimbei or Yamato (if she joins) would have to take on GreenBull.
Well, looking at past arcs, there's been a handful of times Luffy or someone else has taken out that third commander spot. Mr.3, Satori, Blueno, Cracker, Jack. I really hope Oda doesn't do it for the admirals though. I've always liked the monster trio and how it's different from other Yonko. I think it'd feel weird to have a "third commander" type spot.
i would like for usopp to fight greenbull because it just sort of makes sense there's been a theory going around about greenbull havingg a nature related df so it would just makes sense if usopp fought him with his pop green and all that
That would be true if Luffy beat Kaido 1 vs 1, but an entire gauntlet has been run on Kaido to wear him down. Even if (when) Luffy wins this battle, it's not really a 1 vs 1.
It's easily gonna be his toughest battle yet. He would have to win only by attacking with Haki aura, seeing as actually touching Sakazuki would be a horrible idea
Mihawk is still top tier though we didn’t see him fighting full on serious since he can fight 1 on 1 with shanks who has solid mastery over all form of haki
He fought with shanks 20 years ago. Shanks now would destroy him on a full fight. Its said in the official databook vivrecard that Vista could compete against Mihawk. On marine Ford Mihawk couldn't even scratch Vista. Joz stopped one of his most powerful attacks without problem. So every hints are pointing out that Mihawk has commander level
could you imagine a trio attack from luffy, zoro and sanji? i think the only time we've ever seen that ,correct me if im wrong, but it was against the fucking octopus in fishman island arc and they were also under deep water. a post wano trio attack tho? like just no bullshit just balls to the wall all 3 going all out would to just 1 shot someone would be amazing to see
Just realized,kizaru is primarily using his legs,issho has his "sword" for muddy buissnes and akainu we saw using brute force. It's lighting a few bulbs above my head of whats to come,just don't know how ryokugyu fits here maybe he'll fit into this after we see more of him
Sanji may not have future sight, but his observation is definitely top tier. His observation Haki allowed him to counter Katekuri’s Future sight. Hell, even Luffy noted Sanji’s obersavtion Haki was unreal.
You got it wrong : Sanji's specialty is resilience of his exo-skeleton. If you remember correctly there was a scene where a doctor fixed neji's skull by hammering it, and another where sanji recovers from queen's squeez/crush by just reforming his crushed body like a memory metal. Sanji's specialty is opposite of zoro's specialty, Sanji has high defense and can recover from damage in seconds. Further more oda specified that zoro specializes in B-haki, luffy in H-Haki and Sanji in K-haki or observation haki. *Sanji dodged a mochi bullet from katakuri who already saw the future in which sanji dies* Sanji can out do a future sight user, even luffy couldn't do that, no one in the series have done that. Sanji's specialty is OBSERVATION.
Drop the cap, now dodging a Mochi Bullet makes you the best Ken Haki user? Like wtf. He's so good at Ken Haki that he wasn't even able to see King one shotting his ass lmao
@@jessieg5877 Butthurt? I'm still waiting for Sanji to show some basic CoA before we get to talk about ACoO lmfao. Understand that Sanji's buff won't be haki but rather Daddy's tech and you will feel better
I think Sakazuki would be about equivalent to a yonko after the timeskip. I could not think of a scenario where he got bodied by Whitebeard and didn't train his ass off so that it doesn't happen again.
Honestly I don't think Luffy is on Admiral level yet. He will probably defeata Kaido 101 bu that Same Kaido fought 9 Scabards, 5 super novas and Yamato before his 101 with Luffy had started.
And Luffy is in a very low stamina too because of the offscreen fight kf Kaido vs Luffy fight when Luffy got defeated a second time, and food only got Luffy up his feet again it didn’t completely healed him.
and that same luffy fought his way up to the roof and then got hit multiple times by two Yonko , I see people evrywhere talking about kaido being damaged but no one mentions that luffy got damaged by BM nad kaido himself and both would do much more damage than the scabberds would do in a 1000 yrs .
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Kuzan has one major advantage over anyone in the world. He can effortlessly drive a bike on ice for miles. He's worlds strongest cyclist, only outclassed by Mumen rider from OPM.
Also, Kizaru can say Benn Beckman without his lips touching
Bro your display pic..
Mumen rider outclasses everyone
No he and mumen are rivals who are parallels
@@crimsonify4418 he only rivals god ussop and GO. D buggy
Sanji can now move so fast that Queen thought he turned invisible, so if anyone were to give Kizaru a hard time it would be him
Plus, Observation makes being able to move at the speed of light a LOT more manageable.
I think if they fight the admirals Sanji is the perfect matchup for kizaru.
It really does seeem like Luffy will take on Akainu, Zoro will take on Fujitora, and Sanji will take on Kizaru
Wbu the green bull tho?
If Sanji does end up fighting Kizaru, the only way I see him winning is if he gets future sight.
@@xXDonTdODRugZXx yamamoto
I think Kizaru's slow speech & temperment is because he can move so fast he has to guess how slow normal movements & talking are (which he is bad at).
I actually really like this so I'm making it my headcanon
@@Freaker643 😂 Damn yu just bouta steal bro luh theory
my theory is that kizaru is always high on massive rocks of meth
No he’s just Slow in the head
But wouldn't they just tell him to speed up?
Since Sanji is being built up to be crazy fast I feel like his fight with Kizaru is gonna be insane. Some crazy choreography and intense high speed movement. I feel like Sanji is gonna have to gain Future Sight at some point to keep up tho
Bang on the money. He specialises in observation so it’s inevitable he’ll get future sight soon
remember sanji avoid katakuri's attack, whose got the future sight. this might be a hint that he will get an even greater future sight than katakuri
I wonder who will be his match up vs the Black Beard pirates. They are going to need a really speed type DF user for Sanji.
Sanji Dodged Katakuri Who Saw The Future... Luffy Didn't Dodge Katakuri Attacks Until He Was Able To See The Future...
@@robluccicp0981 luffy actually dodged some of his attacks early before even the mirror dimension battle.
I think it's reasonable to assume Akainu has future sight. In Marineford, he was attacked by Marco and Vista and called them "Haki users", indicating they attacked him with haki. And yet he only took the damage to his magma form, not his actual body. This mimics the ability used by Katakuri to use future sight and mold your body around the haki infused attacks.
The ice admiral did the same when whitebeard impaled him. If thats the argument then he’d have it as well. I say No to both. Im sure they just have a mastery over manipulating their bodies against haki users and not having overconfidence on it like a certain Lightning and swamp boi we know. Thats what was said to set them apart from the strong since way back in fish-man island when swamp boi got decimated for his overconfidence. If you cant get over that hurdle, you’d just be another smoker with a stronger attack potency.
@@tevinm4292 I forgot that Aokiji did that. To me, that makes the argument even stronger. They both have mastery over manipulating their bodies against haki, yes. In order to be able to do that, you need to know where you will get hit by haki so as to manipulate a hole there. That's future sight, as directly demonstrated and explained by Katakuri.
My thoughts exactly. The only explanation that Luffy's future sight arent used right now was only bcoz their Haki is stronger or they are just too fast for Luffy to react.
@@Flumong but you dont need haki to learn how to dodge things. You can naturally level up your sense of perception. Take luffy or zoro for example. They have been shown, countless tomes pre timeskip, to easily dodge a volley of arrows or bullets shot at them or even deflect it outright. Amazon lilly for example, or luffy dodging the celestial dragons gunshot, same with zoro before he was stopped from killing one. The examples go on for them and multiple others. If we step back, majority of logias WE KNOW are high tier with their abilities. But they are like that because they aren’t overconfident with their devil fruit. They took the time out to dodge and always air on the side of caution unless they know their opponent doesn’t have haki. Those with arrogant dispositions like enel, smoker and the swamp guy feel invincible at all times therefore whats the point? In other words, inexperienced. Same with luffy. In the Z movie he was shot with a seaprism bullet and was berated for being overconfident in his devil fruit abilities and not dodging when he knew he could’ve. Kata and luffy are the only ones who have shown that ability to see into the future. Hell, with basic observation you can dodge attacks and predict “trajectories”. I respect your opinion but i disagree without us getting more to work with.
@@Flumong I mean you can also know where you’re going to get hit by, like, seeing the attack with your eyes.
"If Luffy does take down Kaido there is literally nothing that can stop him from taking down any character in the entire world."
Nami has entered the chat.
There is a flaw to that. It wouldn't have nothing to fear if he take down Kaido on ONE go. He already got beaten once in that fight, and just now he is fighting in a battle of attrition. But Luffy tends to need several goes to defeat a foe. Doflamingo, Cracker, Katakuri, Kaido. All fights of several rounds.
@@alejandroyava it's a direct qoute from the video. My point is no matter how powerful he gets Nami one shots him. I thought it was pretty obvious you know with the quotation marks and the standard someone superior has entered the chat format.
@@robertosborn9910 why would nami 1-shot him? Her most powerful abilities are lightning based, and we all know how well that worked on Luffy with Enel...
@@juiceart9199 do you read the manga or watch the anime she "one shots" both Luffy and Sanji on a regular basis? It's an on going gag, literally every fan knows this.
dude it's ok, this guy takes everything way too serious and can't tell it's a joke.
We should beat Kizaru because he is the only Admiral who didn’t subscribe to GrandLineReview which would've resulted in consistent injection of One Piece content directly into his RUclips feed.
thats 100 percent correct
This would imply that Akainu is subscribed to GrandLineReview, which resulted to consistent One Piece content directly into his youtube feed, which is quite a terrifying thought.
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So what about Aokiji ?
Man. Your video has saved my life today. Just watched it as I was going through turbulent times and it has given me that bit of light to keep going. Thank you in no small part Liam.
Hang in there brother!
You got this my man!
Whatever it is, you've got this! :D
Chin up my dude, we all got to find the One Piece together.
This too shall pass brother.
Fujitora and Kuzan didn't even break a sweat when Doflamingo seemed to be their opponent! Imagine how strong they must be, if an opponent of that level is not even worthy of scaring them.
Of course.It's a shame they couldn't touch him though.That's what happens when your opponent has a whole political party with his side.Ecen if you defeat him he still wins.And that's why Fujitora allowed Luffy to enter Dressrosa and fight Doflamingo.
To be fair, current version of sanji could also beat the doflamingo we saw in dressrosa. Luffy may not even consider him a worthy opponent
Doflamingo wasn't sweatin either. Doflamingo was real strong.
@@pongpong123able4 Sanji could beat Doflamingo? Stoooop. Only reason he lost was law's devil fruit.
@@bigg8714 mmmm. Only reason? :/ bit much as well. 1v1 current sanji definitely gives Doffy a hard time. Mid diff fight.
I think an interesting idea could be the minor straw hats growing in strength and eventually team take down kizaru since he was the main threat at sabaody that forced kuma to split them up. I really just want to see a straw hat team battle against anyone really. Kinda tired of one vs ones all the time.
Yeah hoping elbaf focuses on ussop and chopper getting power ups IF we see the strawhats go there, maybe nami can add some sort of haki to her weather? Like haki coated lighting, I'm sure it's possible. Would be really cool to see them start catching up to the monster trio a little more.
Frankly and Brook also need more attention with power ups, I wonder if oda will bother with them.
@@tachi5408 namis power up should be going back to the way she was in enies lobby but stronger. You remember when she used temperature and weather to be cool? Whereas now she just has an egg and a bubble that both do the exact same thing
@@tachi5408 If this is a spoiler for you I'm sorry. But I'm assuming you have OP to date in this kind of videos.
If seen people theorize that usopp will get Kanjuro's fruit a while ago (he would really give it good use and already did things like that dressrossa) and since 1036 with him reaching kin'emon and kiku in the same room kinjuro died and all the plants usopp ussess I wouldn't be surprised if he has a fruit in his bag that would inherit the powers. That would really be a good power up for usopp. As for chopper I am really disappointed since neither in the zou arc (his zoan is clearly hito hito model mink) nor in the arc with all the damn zoans in the world did his df have any damn spotlight. So I don't even know anymore
One v Ones make sense though
@@javaruscarstarphen4062 with oda's magic writing powers he can make anything make sense
“Is there any character that can beat the entire monster trio?” Yeah! Easy: Nami… and it’s not even close.
Fr one shot one knock
Ah yes nami the secret wielder of of the plot-fist of love technique
@@PortgasDAce-xt2ok Holey shit your alive
@@neptuneplayz2567 lmao
Yeah and its even more powerful than Garps but in order to use it the user needs to know the target well
What's interesting is that while we haven't seen an Admiral straight up lose a fight, we saw a lot of fights with them at Marineford that didn't get to fully play out. Every time Whitebeard or one of the commanders took on an Admiral, they'd hold their own but then the fight would be either be interrupted or it would just come to a halt out of the blue, and we wouldn't have a clear victor. Well, except for Jozu, he clearly lost to Aokiji.
he got distracted when wb got hurt
True, although nothing against Jozu, but it could be argued that it was his own fault. Plus seeing as it only took one attack to take him out, I'm not sure if he was capable of winning anyway. It would've been interesting to see though
Whitebeard legit rekt akainu even though he was almost dead but akainu survived.
@@otakuedits426 so he lost… getting distracted in a war is death. But any admiral can mid diff old beard lol. That’s why the commanders distracted them from getting to wb. Salasuki with one foot stopped a gura infused strike as well that’s a good strength feat. One on one of. Sakasuki best wb. Wb just had huge plot armor. Two holes in the chest and half his head missing yet he lives. But mf online say akainu had plot armor on taking bloodlusted gura infused punch 💀
You've completely missed Sanji's core attribute: Speed. All his attacks revolve around dealing a barrage/ a multitude of consecutive strikes. Also, he can move so fast that even Queen couldn't see him. Zoro has damage, Sanji has speed, and Luffy has both plus durability.
Sanji also has Observation.
Luffy is a jack of all trades, and doesn't really count.
Sanji and Zoro are basically foils. Sanji shines in using speed, and favors Observation over Armament. Zoro is the opposite. Sanji is ALSO a glass canon compared to Zoro tho.
Not that it matters, the Monster Trio died the momment Jinbei joined.
And with the way things are going, Yamato is probably next.
Exactly, that's why I think he'll fight kizaru eventually
@@nuzlocke2266 sanji has mad durability better than zoro's
@@nuzlocke2266 Ehhh, even though Jinbei and Yamato are very powerful, I think the monster trio is still above those two. Sanji's body can tank bullets now, and he is so fast not even Queen could see his movements. Zoro can cut an entire mountain in half, and he has all 3 Haki types. Luffy is just a monster.
Jinbei is strong, but he wasn't even top three among the warlords. And Yamato is strong, but she hasn't really proven herself. AKA we haven't seen much from her, other than that she managed to hold Kaido back a while (which is impressive)
So all in all, I think the Monster Trio will still be the Monster Trio, those new two will be directly below the Trio, then we have Usopp, Franky, Brook, Robin, Chopper and Nami.
@@gappy7017 No he doesn't.
Tho, I guess it really is up for debate now considering what the Raid Suit did to his body huh...
Kizaru is my favourite admiral. Although I don’t think any character should defeat an admiral in battle by the straw hats but I’d love to see the admirals slowly realize that they are outclassed by pirates
true ... cant wait for Oda to reveal that the gorosei are yonko levels
I think the strawhats will definitely defeat some admirals. Like Zoro definitely gotta beat Fujitora if he's gonna be known as the world strongest swordsman. And I feel like at the end of one piece Sanji would be able to handle a admiral and the best match for him would be Kizaru imo.
I thought you said, "Favourite animal" and it just made sense in my mind for some reason
Sanji is super fast so he is a perfect match for kizaru
Yeah Kizaru vs Sanji is fitting since they both fast and use kicks in there attacks.
The strength of an admiral is hard to determine, because their strength is in their title. They are top tier. Whatever top tier is or becomes, they are there until shown otherwise, so the question really is "have we been introduced to all the powers yet or not?" A decade or two ago if you asked what is an admiral's strength, we'd have said "They have the strongest logia type powers. Logias stand on top of the world, and they have the best ones." and when haki got introduced, the answer became "strong logias and strongest hakis". When advanced hakis get introduced "Yeah they have them", and with advanced conqueror's haki, we can pretty safely assume that they have that as well. If more powers get introduced, they can do that too.
I don't think they have conquerors coating, other than sakazuki. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows. I don't think it fits their character to have CoC, and their reactions at marineford IMO hint at this.
I don’t think admirals have the ability to be kings. That’s why they have broken fruits because they don’t have advanced conquerors. The only that I think has is Garp, sakasuki, and possibly sengoku since they are leaders and they defy the Teryubitos and they are not their lap dogs as shown when sakasuki defied the scum orders.
Well said bully maguire
I actually think they might not have conquerors haki, cause it's not something that can just be obtained
@@maikoharo495 It's not about how one gets it, but the plot necessity of it. Conqueror's haki was something that was meant for kings. Now everyone can do it. Voice of all things was a thing that only Roger had, and when Luffy heard it, was amazing. Now we have Roger, Luffy, Kaido, Momonosuke and Law. It's been normalized. As more powers get introduced, "The Peak" keeps going further and further away. Without people in "The Peak", the Navy would simply collapse because of lack of fighting power. Apparently Advanced Conqueror's bearers are almost immune to damage from those who don't have it. At this point, you could have a fight between a "mere" advanced armament logia admiral and a true blue conqueror, but if anything more comes up, advanced conqueror's becomes a bare necessity to fight them.
I personally hope it won't go that far. Law and Kid beat Big Mom with great struggle. I hope that's where the climb to power ends. At this point I actually also agree the admirals don't have it, but shounens tend to climb, and if so, it will be a necessity.
Kizaru feels like a legitimate target for talk no jutsu to work on. Dude just has a very cavalier change of heart about what justice he's serving and that is very much keeping with his mercurial nature.
Truee, he might be interested in trolling and challenges more than doing the right thing, but truee
I agree but ppl need to stop telling they have to use another anime power to beat s character in an other anime 😂
@@amai211 it was a joke though xD
i strongly disagree. I see Kizaru more of a guy who just doesnt think that deep, doesnt care, is stubborn, even, and could never be talk no jutsued. The only two possible would be Kuzan and Fujitora
nah he'd be the one person talk no jutsu wouldn't work on. I could see it working on akainu before it works on kizaru. It's that general indifference about the intricacies of what he's doing that makes it impossible to talk him out of it
I'd say Aokiji has the most versatile fruit, seeing as so much of this pirate show revolves around sea travel. Dude can practically terraform an entire battlefield, even freeze ice bridges from one island to the next. No other admiral can do these sort of things.
forgetting that punk hazard was terraformed by both aokiji and akainu in equal measure
@@codyphipps334 I think you missed the point of the comment, hes talking about how aokiji can freeze the legit sea , like he did when we first met him on that island, oh and also on marineford
I would imagine that sakazuki could pump magma in to the ocean creating a land bridge in a pretty similar fashion
@@keksimusmaximus8957 I dont think he could do that
@@Pove no? My imagination is that he pumps magma into the sea until either a) the magma cools into solid rock that he can just walk across or b) the ocean is boiled away and he can just walk across the ocean floor
"rubber boy" "sword lad" and "cookie guy" the best definition of the monster trio
He said cooking not cookie
I love it when people recognise Sanji's skills. Freaking clever, freaking good looking, fights with his legs in a breakdance style which is freaking cool, cutest childlike enthusiastic behaviour , he is so expressive with his emotions, so loyal and devoted... And you know what they say... Love goes through the stomach... And sanji... Is (almost confirmed) the most skilled chef in the series... and if not, he's definitely top3.
He is, and unlike luffy he doesnt define himself primary as fighrt, whichmakes him just more amazing as part of the monstertrio
@@marocat4749 i mean he is who else could compete maybe zeff? But i don't think zeffs cooking could satisfy big mom to the level that sanji did
Pudding, did you make another RUclips account again???
Streusen can compete maybe?
And his plot armour is also top notch
I think to think when it comes to observation haki, everyone has the basics, then develop specialities: luffy's future sight, zoro's extended presence sensory, usopp's sniper sight, sanji emotion and intention
I still think Fujitora has future sight
Sanji argubly has better sensory than zoro
@@yungdiddy better in what sense? I'm just saying zoro's is wider, comes with being a swordsman. I would say sanji's is much more precise and detailed in terms of emotional intent and sizing up opponents
@@VeMM0 probably to some extent. everyone has a baseline understanding, but his specialty is emotional intent and sensory perception
fujitora seems to have an advanced application of both zoro and sanji's observation but future sight seems redundant due to his advance sense of emotional intent
I just want to point out that the fight between Sanji and Queen was way more one sided than Zoro's fight
In my opinion Sanji has just as good a chance against an admiral on speed alone never mind all the other factors
imagine fighting with queen while havine identity crisis and panick attack. Sanji wasn't even thinking much about defeating queen.. well after his small convo with zoro that's the time he just focus on queen. Thinking how to increase his flame and beat queen in combo.
Robin and Franky deserve to have at least one type of haki too. 💔 Rather all the Straw hats need it and it should only make sense for they’ve all been continuously gaining more experience battle-wise since day one.
Name a crew where all of them got haki
I can understand them not having conquers haki but the other two should be fair game
Yeah I could see Franky with armament and Robin with maybe observation
But they still manages to defeat Sasaki and Black Maria and both of them have haki..
I think all of em will get Armament & Observation haki at least.
To me the hypest thing would be beating a tenryuubito up, and then beating the admiral sent after. That would be an ultimate display of just how powerful the mugiwara are and how they are a true yonkou and free pirate, basically being powerful enough to not give a shit about any rules.
That would be sick
That would be a badass scene to witness.
we gotta see this in the future
The thing that held luffy back vs akainu in the new world was touching logia types, especially akainus magma. Now with this conquerors haki, it's time to finally fight him without touching
For me, Kizaru is very stronger than we think because he never "shown" serious
Facts
I wouldn’t be either if I could zoom my way anywhere I want
I mean you yourself said he was never shown serious therefore he could also be weaker than sakazuki or aokiji
He never gets serious because he‘s too high
Most people think he's similar to aokiji and akainu. So are you suggesting he's stronger than them?
Personally I would say that Akainu was defeated at Marineford, even though he didn't stay down. He was down for a while and didn't get back up to face Whitebeard again.
in my head-canon he was beat. it just didnt make any sense to recieve the strongest attack from the strongest man to just walk it off 5 seconds later, i call a flaw in writing.
@@ondrejmachovsky2654 the only flaw is you guys who dosen't want to acknowledge the admirals power and durability and endurance. Akainu CAN'T be down after just 2 attacks, REGARDLESS of how power they are
@@tarikizgua1835 Well whitebeard was sick otherwise healthy whitebeard can easily beat the crap out of him and that's why when shanks appeared infront of akainu he didn't do anything because he knew that shanks is not sick like whitebeard.
@@AJ56878 yeah that legendary Shanks power. The guy who lost his arm to a fish. Akainu felt terror for sure.
@@ИванКузнецов-м7в8ы pretty sure shanks said thats hes losing his arm was a bet for luffy🤣and its really obvious akainu didnt move when shanks stand in front of him lol thats prime shanks lol not old sick wb not to mention even akainu was getting beat the shit out of him by old sick wb😂
Well, Luffy could DEFINITELY beat an admiral now.
Nope. Do you think everyone was sleeping during those time skip?
@@elmichellangelo He would have a long hard battle but it would be a win. Yonkou-level are stronger than Admirals. Otherwise what would stop the Marines from just hunting them down? The Yonkou crews so far seem unbeatable by Marines.
Not yet, he will defeat Kaido now but the tired and injured version Kaido. Remember Kaido has been fighting nonstop
@@bantukspersonal4144 I dont understand why you're trying to downplay this. What makes Kaidou weakened? How about the FACT that Luffy was sabotaged and recovered from an assassination attempt? Also Luffy has been fighting just as long.
@@ShiroRX hewas fighting non stop first he fought the elite samurais, 2nd four of the strongest worst generation, then Luffy, his daughter(his daughter told monosukue that Kaido is very tired tired thats why he can no longer controll Onigashima) then luffy again, luffy again for the 3rd time with no rest.Imagine since the battle started he has no time to rest and received some serious injuries, while Luffy got some rest after he was defeated twice. Oda put that line, to let us know that some of Kaido's downfall is because he was tired and received a lot of injury, BigMom was also defeated because he was outsmarted by Law. Oda has 4 years left before finishing the manga, making Luffy unstoppable too early, it will be a boring story line kjust like boruto
My theory is that kizaru will be defeated by blackbeard which will be the "big news" about him post wano. Light vs Darkness seems like a fight waiting to happen (I'm most likely wrong tho lmao)
tbh BB is a hard counter to every single admiral rn out of all the marines only akainu has a veeeeery slight chance at defeating him
@@mrmehdi4745 Akainu couldn't handle old Whitebeard, how on earth is he gonna stand a chance against prime Blackbeard?
@@MrBananajoePL haki ?
@@mrmehdi4745 akainu is actually his easiest matchup
@@MrBananajoePL I said a slight chance because we dont know yet if there are some weaknesses to his df powers and akainu is still a very capable fighter
When it comes to Sanji, people must've said this before, but I haven't seen it anywhere so I'll comment on it anyways.
Invisibility, realistically, is just the ability to make _light pass through you._ Now against whom could that come in handy?
Sanji's Stealth Black is basically the perfect counter to Kizaru's fruit. He often gets the short end of the stick in these discussions, but at the moment his power set is the only one out of the monster trio that's a direct counter to an admiral's abilities. And since Sanji is often depicted as fighting Kizaru specifically, this fits even better.
Calling it now, this is the direction Oda is going with it.
But how is he gonna turn invisible?
Didn't he destroy the germa raid suit so no more stealth black
Bro, Sanji doesn't have his raid suit anymore, so that invisibility is not a thing for him anymore. What he displayed near the end of his fight with Queen was extreme speed, which Queen couldn't keep up with, hence why he couldn't see him.
he actually canonically going invisible right before delivering hell memories on queen without raid suit
The suit could just, ya know, be repaired?
They've got Franky on the crew. If not repaired he could just repurpose or reverse-engineer the technology of it. (Actually that's probably more likely for design reasons.) Turn it into a belt buckle or something lol
It feels unusual to introduce a whole new power set for Sanji just to instantly remove and ignore it, don't you think? Especially when it works so well with this matchup that's been hinted at since like the second anime opening or something.
I really think that the Monster Trio will fight and beat the admirals… at some point in the story
I‘m betting on high diff fights…. But they probably won‘t be the last fights of the story
Ehhh Luffy obviouslywill win cause of shitty plot armour Zoro maybe but Sanji ehhh idk dude kizaru has never gone serious once in his life if he does against Sanji omg it's over
@@rtvitachi7761 “shitty plot armor” yea okay you’re weird asf😂
@@occultteachings6261 truth 🤷🏼♂️
@@Zvontracy how long has the show been going on? y’all do realize he gotta become stronger than them eventually and idk why it has to be cuz of plot armor.
@@occultteachings6261 cause he got carried by a shitty powerup to be strong enough to beat kaido cause he got his shit rocked the first time
Since the idea of tropes is coming up with the Luffy getting main character power ups more often, I think it'd be interesting to see the "2nd in charge is way stronger than 1st in charge" thing with Kizaru and Akainu. We already know with characters like Garp that rank alone doesn't equal strength. Maybe Kizaru just had no interest in the position but is low key the strongest?
He'd have to do some pretty impressive stuff to prove that. Akainu battled WB (though old and sick was still recognized as the strongest man in the world) and was tanking blows and putting up a good fight, even taking off half of his face. Then he battled with Aokiji for 10 days and changed the climate of an island.
If Kizaru was stronger than Akainu. There was no good reason for them to not keep going at marinford. They could've put BB down easy, Akainu could've managed that alone, and then jumped the Red Haired pirates
You appear to be talking shit about garp with zero reason, discredited comment
@@spunkymonkey5102 You clearly didn't read the comment right.
@@spunkymonkey5102 he's saying that despite not being an Admiral, Garp is strong af.
@@AJJr-hc5lz Pretty sure BB hard counters Kizaru.
Kizaru is also lazy.
He's the fastest character in the series, but also HEAVILY relies on his DF.
There used to be a time when this conversation ( Monster Trio vs the Admirals ) was considered farfetched. Now looking at Wano its can very well happen.
Ikr
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I can see that basic Shonen set up happening, and id love to see a set up where Luffy is fighting Akainu (because Ace) while Zoro takes on Fujitora and Sanji Kizaru. As for Greenbull, i dont Really know? But i think Ussop would be a great option. Between his plant based attacks (going with the idea that Greenbull has a plant based Devil Fruit) and itd be a great call back all the way to Arlong Park where they were the big four
Fr ussop needs some spotlight
@@kidgoku7386 Absolutely! Especially since unlocking observation haki in dressrosa but not getting any further development on that
@@link2744 Wait for Elbaf man. We are getting Usopp's tales
@@polares8187 thats what im holding out for! Heres hoping Elbaf is great ^^
Sanji vs Greenbull fir me
Honestly in my personal opinion I'd say that 1 Yonko is equivalent to 1.5 admirals otherwise I find it hard to believe they wouldn't have taken them all down by now, especially with Akainu as the current fleet admiral.
i feel the commanders of a yanko are able to hold off an admiral for a time but not beat them. so not only is the yonko able to beat 1 and put up a good fight against 2 but also their crew can play distraction for a good bit of time.
I diss agree. Kizaru would’ve went to wano and fight Kaido or Bigmom if Akainu let him.
If Fujitora and Ryokugyu went to take down Bigmom and Kaido, they have a chance with the better devil fruit.
Beast pirates would be extinct if Fujitora went.
@@Tongokai Then why didn't he?
It's shown multiple times that The Navy is impeded in it's mission by The World Nobles and their agendas.
Akainu vs Aokiji had a much wider area of environmental damage than any Yonko duel we've seen yet; and we only caught a glimpse of their power. WB got his brains vaporized, internal organs cooked and multiple holes blown out of him by an Akainu that was holding back immensely to avoid destroying Marineford. It took WB going all-out and destroying the entire island to do any lasting damage to a held-back Akainu.
1 Admiral is 1 Yonko, and that's being generous.
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no
Uhh you're leaving out a lot of context to prove your point.
ALSO when it comes to strategies, the admirals don't necessarily have that much of an advantage over luffy. We know that while fighting luffy can come up with weird strategies of his own that sometimes catch his opponents off guard
When you try to stragetize against luffy, you are already doing it wrong lol
The best way that I can think to put it is that sanji doesn’t need advanced haki because his legs are black blades
If only having a black blade like shusui was a substitute for Ryuo.
his shoes and pants are his truly weapon
The best way indeed sir
Sanji does not need advanced haki because of scientific power. If you notice, one piece now put a lot of emphasis on the power of science that can rival DF. They abolished the Warlords in favour of Vegapunks robot and Germa have been shown to overcome Big Moms generals with science alone. Plus Queen is the left hand man of Kaido with scientific augmentation as well.
If you think that then you clearly don't understand what adv.armanent is
I highly doubt Luffy can’t solo an admiral after besting Kaido, except if they wear them out first as a team like Doffy and Kaido that’s borderline acceptable. Luffy solos. Zoro & Sanji duos.
facts
no doubt luffy solos and beats most admirals rn .
If Luffy can beat Kaido he can beat an admiral
I'd say it's at least mid-high dif depending on the Admiral. But at least now we know that he CAN.
Luffy is fighting an injuried Kaidou, he still isn’t on Yonkou/Admiral
And we have seen character of that power level dealing with more than one commander, so Sanji and Zoro still are stomped by the admirals
Ice chad looking tough bro,😂6:19
Could Roger's corpse beat the monster trio? With Gecko Moria under Blackbeard it's more likely than you think.
No, the whole corpse power isn't the same as having the actual person on their team. You have to consider that someone's shadow who isn't roger has to be in the corpse and control it. And it's a corpse. If pre timeskip zoro could beat a wano legend under who was used by Morias corpse power, I think its safe to say that Roger wouldn't be nearly as strong when he was alive.
@@scoresdavis3435 I wasn't actually making that argument as much as I was pointing out the possibility. Of course it depends on whether or not they actually get their hands on Roger's corpse in the first place, and then whether or not they have a suitable shadow secondly. But we're talking about Blackbeard here, if he DID have Roger's corpse and plan to use it with Moria's ability he'd make sure the shadow was also powerful. Like how Moria put Luffy's shadow in Oars.
More to the point, the strength of the body definitely matters, so any shadow would also be stronger thanks to using Roger's body, just like Brook's shadow in Ryuma was stronger than Brook because Ryuma's strength factored into it.
Bruh the idea of roger coming back as a zombie would be legendary. To meet his successor luffy in person would be iconic.
@@scoresdavis3435
*cough cough*
Cindry
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I'm pretty sure that either God Usopp or Sogeking are both powerful enough on their own to take down the monster trio. Sniper Island flashback when?
These jokes are getting old...
@@soisauce5934 I don't care
I’m pretty sure if Sogeking could actually be bothered to use his conquers haki no one could stand in his presence.
@@austenthegreat7 Still these jokes are getting old whether you care or not
@@wildstorm3486 maybe that will happen in elbaf as that arc will focus on ussop achieving his dream of being a brave warrior of sea
Enjoying your power scale breakdown videos!
1 thing I would give Sanji that you neglected to speak on is his speed and observation haki.
I dont think that conquerors is end all be all. Although ,the conquerors haki coating is a big win.
Sanjis speed + germa powers could have him on the level of Borsalino post Wano. When he gains full understanding of his current powers (outside of his ifrit jambe) speaking more towards his speed and invisibility. I could see Sanji defeating Borsalino.
Would like to see you collaborate with BDA, VinlanD for chapter breakdown discussions.
Never been so early for a video, feels like I found the one piece
The grand line review is the real one piece
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I think it was hinted that Sanji might and I mean Might by stretching it have AOH (future sight) or something close. Remember on the whole cake wedding cake thing where Katakuri shot a jellybean at him which he dodged. A guy who can use future sight and used it I think. But it might be that he either didn't or was not calm enough to use it. Who knows we just need to wait and see if he does have an advancement of any haki or not. Also am I the only one thinking that Sanji should have Conqueror's Haki I mean he has the Vinsmoke/Germa blood and they are a royalty. Before someone starts saying we don't need any other Straw hat using CH Zoro is enough, he doesn't need it etc. Roger's crew had more than two people who could use it just saying.
Considering Luffy specialises in CoC, Zoro in Armanent and Sanji in observation. That is highly likely
@@salmanrafique3171 yep but we only need confirmation. I mean it feels like Sanji is still kind of left behind when it comes to Haki power ups. So I hope Oda Sensei has some good plans for him.
@@serenawills7881 I agree Goda with Sanji's other incredible powerups should introduce more advanced level of haki with Sanji
Been saying this since that happened, it would mean Sanji could foresee not only the father with the gun but also Katakuri foreseeing that and him shooting a jellybeen. This is confirmed as Katakuri himself said he was gonna dodge the father's bullet, who then shot the bean that sanji also foresaw. Thats entire sequences not seconds thats hes foreseeing and in that case was faster than Katakuri technically, idk why ppl dont talk about it. If thats not a Oda tease idk what is
@@MaxBrauns You see most people are Zoro or Luffy fans that Sanji gets left behind kind of so he doesn't get the spotlight. I mean most people started liking Sanji due to his back story. I like all the guys for what they are but Sanji is a bit special because I love his fighting style.
6:25 Okay now I just imagined Sanji improvising a bit of a lava cooking recipe IN THE MIDDLE OF A THREE ON ONE ON SAKAZUKI.
Sakazuki: DAI FUNKA!!!
Sanji: MEAT SHIELD!!
[meat sizzling]
Hey mosshead! heads up!
Zorro: *cut his steak into slice in the air*
Sakazuki: RYUSEI KAZAN!!!
Sanji: MEAT SHIELDS!!
[meat sizzling intensifies]
Sanji: Hey Luffy!! Your jumbo steaks are ready!!
You have to question the Admirals motivation to go against any Emperor, but I'm sure if Akainu was confident he would beat any or all of them, he would have already 🤷♂️
Obviously it's Oda's call in the end BUT, just going by what we know so far.
Or he hasn’t because it doesn’t make sense for the story. Also consider the losses the marines would take going up against a yonko crew. Probably not worth it. 1v1 I think akainu could take big mom and maybe even Kaido. I mean kaido has been defeated and captured by marines multiple times already.
Considering that everything after the timeskip happened in a matter of weeks, including all of luffys power ups I think it is fair to say that after wano, if another emperor or admiral is not already in wano, noone in the one piece world can beat luffy anymore. Even if we assume that shanks is stronger than kaido, until they meet a few weeks will pass so luffy will be a lot stronger.
Luffy only really grows stronger when forced to. Haki blooms in battle. Luffy gets stronger if his opponent forces him to get stronger so I'd expect Shanks to still maybe be a little bit ahead but when and if they battle Luffy will surpass him
if the admirals were as strong as an emperor wouldnt they already have went and tried to take one of the emperors down?
True…it doesnt make any sense if admiral is as strong as the yonkou but just sit back and let yonkou rules the world without doing anyting about it
Not when Yonko are in their own territory with huge firepower and numbers in their favour... I doubt Marines have enough manpower to target a Yonko in their own Turf, while having enough back to protect the Marine HQ, in case another Yonko decides to clean the base... Manpower is quite less, precisely why they needed the Warlord system... Now they are hoping SSGs can give them the firepower and the numbers... Mind you, We are yet to see even one SSG in action, or even see one at all... Oda is waiting for SSGs to make epic entry... I expect at least 4 warlords dead/captured, by the time Wano Arc is done...
@@thirumalarchidambaram5390 ssg is too overkill. ssj is enough
@@jonasnera2340 Nice reference to DB.. 😉👍
Kizaru wanted but Akainu didn't allow that because they don't know anything about wano military, meanwhile admirals fought old Whitebeard which was still the Strongest yonko, but not 3v1 but all of them did longer or shorter 1v1 without dying and doing heavy hits
Luffy won the "punchie" against the Hancock sisters. They had Buso Haki and he didn't.
having haki isn't enough to win the fisty cuff; as shown by amazon lilly; haki only applifies; haki can still lose to brute force. Strength[Brute] x Will[haki] = Power.
I think he meant advenced users of armement and CoC haki
so you don't understand adv armanent and adv conqurerors haki
@@mrmehdi4745 He just said haki in general. When making his general statment joke about if u got haki u win if they don't but haki when introduced; first thing they established force can overpower haki. Theirs currently nothing that suggests you can't overpower advanced haki with force. However the amount of force required to overpower would be insane. For advanced haki i would say Force + Haki* = power. *= squared. Conqurerors
Honestly back in the day, the very idea of facing off against the Admirals was like playing an RPG and facing off against the final boss three times at once.
The Man Yonkou is still stronger than the Admiral
I think Luffy can beat an admiral with extreme difficulty
Zoro and Sanji not so much in my opinion , they will be approaching that level of power soon , but for right now I don’t see either of them winning.
They’re definitely at the upper ends of the commanders tho.
facts
Currently Sanji is comfortably 1st commander level, Zoro is higher end first commander or slightly above, Luffy is Admiral - Low Yonko level.
imo luffy high diffs an admiral maybe , but not extreme diff , only the fleet admiral akainu would probably be an extreme diff .
We don't know how strong Admirals are, but storywise it would make sense if they were slightly outside of Luffy's reach right now.
@@IchigoKurosaki911 luffys not low level yonko he's higher than that.
Sanji demonstrated enormous Damage capabilities that looks like around admiral tier..... I mean it's not everyone who can sen a brachio/cyborg worth 1.32 bill away from an island and still flying ...
its not like he only hit queen once, you're blowing this way out of the water. remember enel... remember doflamingo when luffy activated gear fourth.. i seriously think it was just signification that he "did it" and "overcame them" like how most fights go in one piece. because enel was 500,000 bounty, and got blown away by luffy.
I agree with the admiral strength right behind the yonko. Luffy definitely, Zoro I think he can too (with high to extreme difficulty), Sanji I would say possibly but it with be extreme difficulty. I think Zoro and Sanji are closer in strength then most believe, but if you look at their fights Sanji always wins with less difficulty than Zoro so I wouldn’t count him out
The only character able to defeat the Monster Trio is Buggy D Clown.
Bro why you gotta be rolling up with the final boss already?
You forgot about God D Usopp
Just because a character has haki, doesn't automatically make them strong or stronger then another character. Perfect example Buu vs Funk Brothers or all of amazon lily who have at least armament haki.
This is true. We have seen on several occasions now that while haki is powerful, it can be overpowered by speed and strength that surpasses the skill of the haki
Zoro vs Pica laid it out pretty bare.
The stronger Haki wins.
Amason Lily is a HORRIBLE example, because only Hancock herself was worth anything by the upper New World standards.
Not when you have extraordinary levels of Haki like Luffy. No one is a threat to him anymore. He will literally take on everyone right now..
Zorro who we assumed to have unlocked Advanced Conqueror user is also extremely powerful right now. While he still might not be in top 15, he is definitely a serious threat to anyone below YC1 level..
Sanji already have good Armament and Observation. His recent powerups literally improved his Offense and defense drastically.. He's quite a monster right now. Probably at top 20 currently..
@@nuzlocke2266 1. You didnt bring up Buu.
2. For Amazon Lilly I'm just using everyone else's train of thought. "Haki beats all despite they're actually strength "
3. Zoro won because he was stronger and Pica was weaker. It's the character that lost, not haki power levels.
If a character with haki fights a character without haki, it's not a automatic W for the haki guy. It helps, but I think peaple overthink haki a bit.
@@geckomoriafanboy8037 I don't know any Buu.
I know of a Boo tho, but I don't care for Buu the filler character.
And no, Zoro won because his haki was stronger than Pica's, so he cut through him like butter. They literally state this in the fight.
If a character with haki fights someone without it, it's *usually* an automatic win. There are exceptions, case and point: Nami vs Ulti.
Admirals have ONE weakness... they depend too much on their Logia Powers. In fact, before the Timeskip, all the Admirals were Logia, who, as a general rule, trust too much on their invesibility to actually defend themselves when something attacks them. Kizaru was repeled several times for someone with good Observation Haki. Aokiji defended himself will when he attacked Whitebeard, but was then hurt by Jozu. Akainu got his ass kicked by Whitebeard.
The marines seem to have understanded their lesson, and the new admirals doesn't have neccesarely Logia powers. Fujitora is a Paramecia, and we still don't know Ryokugyu´s abilities.
You can't damage logia type without haki, that's why
It wasn’t much more than a year ago that you said even EOS Luffy could lose to an Admiral. Good to see you finally giving Luffy the respect he deserves 👍
I think I said emperor, but I still stand about to be corrected.
EOS?
@@obitolee407 That’s like SOS but with an E
@@obitolee407 He meant End of story luffy
"If you think there is one character, that can defeat the monster trio all at once."
Well, of course we do, silly. We know him since Chapter 1. His name is *Whoop Slap* ! He's called so for a reason! Because he whoops! And he slaps!
We haven't seen him for a while, sadly his voice actor is dead. His last role was incenaroar in smash, he played old Joseph Joestar with his famous "OOOOOOHHH MMMMY GOOOD!!!"
You forgot that Luffy strengthened his regular devil fruit disabled body (while in seastone cuffs) to ridiculous levels thus improving his resistance to seastone and improving his devil fruit imbued powers!
Imagine Superman developing a resistance to kryptonite
Not saying your wrong, but do you have a source for this? I don't remember this being stated, but hey I could be wrong lol
@@ryanmoody6198 this from the training arc in udon prison in wano
Well not entierly.
1. We have seen lufy been taken out by thw warden of the Udon prison
2. We know it was stated that those cuffs were not pure sea stone, leaving just enough power in the prisoners that they could work.
Thus I conclude that he is not resistant but not as impaired.
I think one of the mistakes Oda made, coming out of the time skip, was not giving Franky, Robin and possibly Brooke basic armament haki.
Franky was already one of the stronger mid tier fighters coming out of water 7/Enis Lobby and Robin was basically a spy who specialized in assassinations. Training with Hack and Koala could've naturally lead to this, story wise. Brooke is a toss up but I feel basic use with his swordsmanship could've gone a long way.
It’s not a mistake , fighting is not their goal so they aren’t aiming to be able to fight commanders and that , that’s Sanji and Zoros jobs
Robin was basically a spy who "Read More" lmaoooooo
Robin does have armament haki though, as was revealed in her fight versus black Maria
@@hiddensinix2767 no it wasn’t haki , it was just the art style
@@tillah7407 I mean, this arc clearly showed the need for armament. You don't need to be or fight a commander to use Haki.
Big Mom has wayyyyy more Tobbi Roppo equivalent children that aren't commanders and can probably use Haki. You can't expect Luffy, Zoro, Sanji or Jinbe to do ALL the fighting or come save the day at every turn, do you?
And consistency wise, if you have fights where Franky is defeating a top Yonko combatant (worth 300 M plus) WITHOUT Haki, there's a problem
Personally, i lost all amazement towards admirals' power when akainu got litterally crushed by a sick and half faced whitebeard
The anime exaggerates the scene, Akainu only gets some nosebleed lol.
Genuinely speaking, if fujitora has an awakened devil fruit and uses gravity the millions of different ways you can, i dont think anyone could lay a finger on him especially because he knows with his advanced observation so there would be almost no way to BEAT him but thats not saying he can beat all 3 of them alone
I think luffy definitely can fight an admiral one on one and win high difficulty. Between mastery of all 3 haki types, crazy endurance, and power to split the sky, he definitely can win; though kizaru is probably the hardest matchup for luffy now.
Zoro is the hardest definitive answer; ill tentatively say no because Zoro fighting style of "get the shit kicked out of you and land a one hit ko" is a horrible matchup against kizarus speed. Fujitora is a much more favorable matchup for zoro because fuji seems to be more reliant on his hax. While a much weaker zoro has broken out of his gravity hax before, we have to remember fujitoras bare minimum hax still had that version of zoro bleeding. Zoro vs fujitora is too close to call in my opinion; though gun to my head, I'd pick fujitora to win.
Sanji I'll also say no. Hes always used to being the faster fighter; which wouldn't be the case against kizaru; and fujitora hax is a horrible matchup for sanji.
I think for this discussion there is a point that you may want to consider which is during I think it was between Punk Hazard and Dressrosa, when Law was on call with Doffy, Law basically tells Doffy after destroying his SAD stuff on Punk Hazard that he basically has to choose between pissing off Kaido or the Navy sending admirals at him. And Doffy chose to try and keep Kaido happy because that's how much more scary the thought of Kaido and the Beast Pirates were than the Admirals
When Kizaru Awakens and truly becomes the speed of light and possesses infinite energy (as any mass moving at the speed of light has infinite energy and therefore cannot exist)
He will Solo the verse! 💡
this is not dragon ball you know lol .
But he is probably not interested in stuffs like soloing the universe
That’s cool and all. But oda ain’t doing that
all though I don't really think Sanji could win against an admiral, I do think he could be a problem cause presumably, he has advanced observation haki he even was able to dodge a katakuri bullet in the manga and I don't know if that's even possible without having observation haki
right, i think so
I'd love to see Sanji imbue his flames with armament haki, living up to his "black leg" name by turning the flames black
I'm still hoping for Kizaru to put in some more effort and show that he's actually more powerful than Sakazuki
He's just not bro and i love him though
bruh blackbeard can mid diff kizaru
Personally, I think that Big Mom is the best bet to defeat the monster trio. (Not that she's an admiral tho) She is a woman, so Sanji can't attack her. So, essentially, it'll just be Zoro & Luffy VS Big Mom, but I still dunno if Big Mom can beat that level of power.
Current base luffy is equivalent to hybrid kaido. Zoro provided some trouble before even mastering adv coc and Enma. The current zoro tho not on the level of yonkos yet have AP that could be seen as comparable to them and luffy being already on the same level of big mom she can't hope to 2 v 1 luffy and zoro
@@kirind.dragon1901 People tend to forget how many people have fought kaido this arc
@@justsomeguy4955 I don't. It's just if u go back to chapter 1026 it's clearly indicated luffy is nerfed too along with kaido, In the same dialogue where it mentions kaido is somewhat nerfed
Sanji doesn’t attack beautiful woman, so he can attack Linlin.
@@Maartun even if he attack bm he can't damage her either way it's useless tbh. No disrespect to sanji but to hurt her u need either adv coc, internal damage or kidd level AP. Sanji can take some hits tho
Literally the ONLY reference we have for this, is Sakazuki vs Marco. In the paramount war, Marco tried to stop the la Sakazuki from attacking/killing Luffy and got overpowered pretty easily. Marco also fought Kuzan and Kizaru to very temporary standstill though, so he may just have been tired or had an elemental advantage with Kuzan.
Either way, I’d say in a 1 on 1 fight, an admiral will beat Marco, with some effort. And in Wano, Marco held back both king and queen for a time by himself.
In short, the admirals are at minimum somewhere between Whitebeard and Marco in strength. So they question is, could Whitebeard beat Kaido, Big Mom or Shanks, in the state he was in at Marinford. Honestly….I’m doubtful. Let me explain.
Whitebeard in his Full power prime, could likely beat ANYONE short of Roger himself. But his isn’t who fought at Marinford. What we got was a man who, very early in, got stabbed thru the chest and was already on his deathbed before that. So I’d say that was maybe 70% power on a good day. So I’d say an admiral is, at most, 60% of Whitebeards full power. But that is just a guess. Just like is a guess on where KAIDO at full power is as in Wano, Kaido has fought the following people before his current final battle with Luffy.
The 9 scabbards
Luffy, Kid, Law, Zoro and kids 2nd in command (though that was with big moms help)
Yamamoto
Luffy again
And now Awakened Luffy
So even if Luffy wins this fight. He is not definitively equal to Kaido.
In short, the admirals strength at the moment, is whatever the plot needs them to be. Just like Mihawk.
rest in peace Unshō Ishizuka. yu voiced one of my fave admirals, yur "OOOOOHHHH kowai neeeeeeeee" will always be in my heart.
Thank you for bringing up the conflict between Sakazuki and Whitebeard cause seriously, my head will never wrap around the fact that Sakazuki simply just got up and walked off a blow he took from an enraged emperor that literally made the entire marineford crumble to pieces and should have been fatal.
2 blows, he tanked 2 direct deadly super strong blows from whitebeard and still had enough strength to get up and fight.
@@didntaskyou7884 you know he's is like (even though my headcanon is kizaru being strongest of all ) he seems to be strongest admiral now fleet admiral but still plus you know he is like that unstoppable force and his body is fully committed to his mind and his will kinda like protagonist plot armor being his endless will he has his own version of it
Whitebeard was past his prime, had an illness, just got stabbed through the chest and was fighting a lot more people. So he wasn't fully at 100%
3:41 Enel? This guy could hear a fart with his Observation Haki on the other side of Skypia if he wanted.
The five elder stars will be the real threat that Luffy Zoro and maybe Sanji will have to face. I see ussop and Sanji facing off against kizaru. And Jimbe and Sabo (IF he's still alive) versing Sakazuki.
Lmao Sakazuki would eat them both alive
Why did u say (maybe sanji) it's the monster trio of course he'll be there
@@Rex-yp1qb because I see Kizaru as the hardest admiral to counter with abilities of the straw hats, Ussop would be able to track him with observation haki, Nami could use weather to create light manipulation, but I don't see either being able to do damage against a logia light user capable of haki, I think Sanji would be the more reasonable option to be able to land critical blows against him.
@@tarikizgua1835 I think it'd be an interesting battle, water/fishman karate and the flare flare haki user versing off against the magma man, both with reason to want to face off against him for the death of Ace.
This whole argument of "One has conq haki coating therefore theyre stronger" really doesnt make much sense. It just blatantly ignores so many factors such as proficiency with Conq coating, devil fruit advantages, speed advantages, random hax abilities, or even the fact that new conq haki users will surely be revealed. On top of that you then have to make headcanon assumptions for which conq haki users can actually use it or not, logically Shanks or even BB should be able to but theres 0 proof they can, so is Zoro now > both of them on paper? No bc him having conq coating doesnt magically boost all of his other stats in a fight that are just as neccesary as AP 💀.
Edit: I wanna touch on the proficiency topic a bit more, the fact two conq haki users can vary in proficiency means that there is a scale as to how effective a characters conq coating is comparatively. Therefore logically it would make sense that there are characters who are so proficient with say their DF or Armament Haki that they do more damage then a not so proficient conq coating user.
"Nobody's faster then kizarus light attacks"
Rayleigh "hold the f*ck up"
Is it sad that my mind went straight to the fact that Kizarus old VA died?
You should tag Brago (BDA Law) in this. For the past year or 2 he's been trying to convince his listeners that the admirals = the emperors. When this whole idea should have been squashed from Marineford. The weakest emperor of the sea, an old and half dead Whitebeard took all the marines on including multiple admirals and they still couldn't beat him. They all struggled with the strongest of the admirals very luckily surviving death. Oda done made it clear to me already the order of power in the verse.
Yeah fr lmao
facts
Its very clear there's a reason strawhats is fighting yonko first and admirals later on if yonkos are really > admiral then it doesn't makes sense that after the war against the yonkos they will be fighting much weaker opponents especially in the last war lol
I think even old Whitebeard would have solo'd Kaido and Big Mom
That's why I don't watch BDA law,he doesn't know what he is talking about.
Fujitora does use Haki in dressrosa when pushing against the birdcage with everyone else actually, although that doesn't say much about his mastery of the technique.
I truly think the admirals don't get enough credit. I place them on average just below Yonko.
I agree
The moment Zoro went Conqueror’s Haki Coating and finished King, I said that we only need Luffy to beat Kaido now for the Straw Hats to be the second greatest pirate crew in the world and them being able to beat the 4 admirals. If Luffy can defeat Kaido 1 v 1, he will definitely smoke Akainu and when Zoro and Sanji actually master their new abilities, I think that both of them can beat admirals. Zoro would beat Fujitora and Sanji would have to beat Kizaru (this is the most difficult battle) and either Jimbei or Yamato (if she joins) would have to take on GreenBull.
Well, looking at past arcs, there's been a handful of times Luffy or someone else has taken out that third commander spot. Mr.3, Satori, Blueno, Cracker, Jack. I really hope Oda doesn't do it for the admirals though. I've always liked the monster trio and how it's different from other Yonko. I think it'd feel weird to have a "third commander" type spot.
Don't forget that Kaido literally had 10+ people wearing him down.
The Scabards, the minks, 4 members of the worst generation, and Yamato.
@@RobSomeone luffy never fought Jack
i would like for usopp to fight greenbull because it just sort of makes sense there's been a theory going around about greenbull havingg a nature related df so it would just makes sense if usopp fought him with his pop green and all that
That would be true if Luffy beat Kaido 1 vs 1, but an entire gauntlet has been run on Kaido to wear him down. Even if (when) Luffy wins this battle, it's not really a 1 vs 1.
Liam and his fictional pirate jokes are top tier this episode.
admiral is probably most controversal word in whole one piece
Luffy is obviously gonna ruin sakazuki, just a matter of time
It's easily gonna be his toughest battle yet. He would have to win only by attacking with Haki aura, seeing as actually touching Sakazuki would be a horrible idea
Mihawk is still top tier though we didn’t see him fighting full on serious since he can fight 1 on 1 with shanks who has solid mastery over all form of haki
He fought with shanks 20 years ago. Shanks now would destroy him on a full fight.
Its said in the official databook vivrecard that Vista could compete against Mihawk.
On marine Ford Mihawk couldn't even scratch Vista.
Joz stopped one of his most powerful attacks without problem.
So every hints are pointing out that Mihawk has commander level
@@fenor1862 nah you is biased shanks isn’t at full powet
@@Uaveatz2 Shanks is at his prime
The admirals are over all smarter, but Luffy is a combat genius.
exactlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
I really do feel like after Wano, Luffy is going to beat Akainu, that's my wild prediction. I feel like that's the most logical step after Kaido
could you imagine a trio attack from luffy, zoro and sanji? i think the only time we've ever seen that ,correct me if im wrong, but it was against the fucking octopus in fishman island arc and they were also under deep water. a post wano trio attack tho? like just no bullshit just balls to the wall all 3 going all out would to just 1 shot someone would be amazing to see
Goosebumps just thinking about it
Vs an admiral will be one of the most satisfying and hype moments
I wonder if any of the admirals have conqueror’s haki
I'm sure Kuzan's fruit is great in a *seafare* setting where most of your traveling is going to be on *water*
Just realized,kizaru is primarily using his legs,issho has his "sword" for muddy buissnes and akainu we saw using brute force. It's lighting a few bulbs above my head of whats to come,just don't know how ryokugyu fits here maybe he'll fit into this after we see more of him
The person who could defeat the monster trio would be Nami.
It's a dead joke. She's just fanservice. Robin, Yamato, Hancock, Carrot >>
4:51 why'd you do that to king 🤣🤣
Sanji may not have future sight, but his observation is definitely top tier. His observation Haki allowed him to counter Katekuri’s Future sight. Hell, even Luffy noted Sanji’s obersavtion Haki was unreal.
You got it wrong : Sanji's specialty is resilience of his exo-skeleton. If you remember correctly there was a scene where a doctor fixed neji's skull by hammering it, and another where sanji recovers from queen's squeez/crush by just reforming his crushed body like a memory metal. Sanji's specialty is opposite of zoro's specialty, Sanji has high defense and can recover from damage in seconds.
Further more oda specified that zoro specializes in B-haki, luffy in H-Haki and Sanji in K-haki or observation haki. *Sanji dodged a mochi bullet from katakuri who already saw the future in which sanji dies* Sanji can out do a future sight user, even luffy couldn't do that, no one in the series have done that.
Sanji's specialty is OBSERVATION.
Drop the cap, now dodging a Mochi Bullet makes you the best Ken Haki user? Like wtf. He's so good at Ken Haki that he wasn't even able to see King one shotting his ass lmao
Luffy is better at every time soo
@@mat_s245dlc losers getting butthurt over argument they made in their head.
@@jessieg5877 Butthurt? I'm still waiting for Sanji to show some basic CoA before we get to talk about ACoO lmfao. Understand that Sanji's buff won't be haki but rather Daddy's tech and you will feel better
This is the prettiest thumbnail you've had for a video by far
Glad to see the channel just keeps evolving and getting even better!
I think Sakazuki would be about equivalent to a yonko after the timeskip. I could not think of a scenario where he got bodied by Whitebeard and didn't train his ass off so that it doesn't happen again.
Honestly I don't think Luffy is on Admiral level yet. He will probably defeata Kaido 101 bu that Same Kaido fought 9 Scabards, 5 super novas and Yamato before his 101 with Luffy had started.
And Luffy is in a very low stamina too because of the offscreen fight kf Kaido vs Luffy fight when Luffy got defeated a second time, and food only got Luffy up his feet again it didn’t completely healed him.
and that same luffy fought his way up to the roof and then got hit multiple times by two Yonko , I see people evrywhere talking about kaido being damaged but no one mentions that luffy got damaged by BM nad kaido himself and both would do much more damage than the scabberds would do in a 1000 yrs .
Facts
lets be real hes 100% on admiral level.
If he wasnt he couldnt even stand his ground for 2 min against a yonko
Luffy loses to every admiral.