@@embn It made my day! Im even older than Steve, and have sat in the dirt at roadside on a hot day, changing a tube on a motorcycle tire. Way more involving than swapping tubes on bicycles. People express sympathy for old guys sweating in the dirt, somewhat.
great video as usual. I love the Canyon ebikes for quality value but please ask them why we can't get any of them in Canada. They are missing out on a lot of sales! They are available in the US but warranty would be void if we get them there apparently. I've asked on Canyon chat but no insight. thx!
I would like to buy Neuron: On CF 8, but unfortunately I can't try it before I buy it. I'm not a big rider in difficult terrain - rocks, downhills, but how do you feel riding a longer distances on this bike - forest paths, field roads, roads? I mean, isn't there a short distance between the handlebars and the saddle, and how comfortable is the ride at 50+ km? I am afraid that the XL size will be small for my height of 188cm/95kg. When riding on the road, this bike seems small even for you. :). I had the Haibike Almtn 2 until now.
Steve, you poor guy! You and the camera crew forced to go to this magnificent location and enjoy some of the most beautiful views in that part of the world. Too bad about the mech though, for sure. Good on you and the crew.
I once was riding home when I was almost hit on the head with a flying saucer!! They pulled up in front of me... and I dunted my front forks against the ship!! Then, a sliding door opened and I was taken in with my bike by some sort of tractor beam! I really cannot remember much after that.. But I woke up in a field the next day with my eMTB in perfect condition!! wowzer! I only wish I had remembered to bring some co2 bottles!! then I could've used them as mini bombs against the aliens!! But all's well that ends well... eh
yep, was riding home from work through Margam park Port Talbot (my usual route) and for some reason a film crew had covered the path in Innocuous straw which snapped my derailleur, was not impressed
If you have the new Sram wireless transmission you can easily rearrange the flipped derailleur at that issue. And go on your way without a broken derailleur. 😁👍🏻
This is why mtbs and especially Emtbs should have gearboxes instead of fragile derailleurs... For example Intradrive !! anyway shouldn't hanger break before derailleur? :> these UDH are to tough xD
As cool as this bike seems, I am having an absolute blast on my Spectral ON CF8, the thing is totally addicting. The more I ride it, the more I plan rides on it.
I was thinking about the Spectral but the latest Neuron and the new Strive come with the Bosch CX (and if you have the $$$ the CX Race). I've become so bored comparing all the motors 😂 Each review I have read puts the Bosch ahead of the EP8 - however the new EP801 with auto changing gears looks interesting too.
Had any issues at all?.? I can't decide between neuron 8 or spectral 8...I really want the bosch motor and heard fair few issues with the ep8, the battery cover and battery tabs breaking
Hi everyone! I have a doubt and I need your help, please. Do you know how long is the new Neuron 8 CF top tube (letter C from geometry)? Are 682 mm correct in size S?
And that is why you dont spend ridiculous amounts of money on derailleurs. The supidest , most unforseen thing is what will destroy a mech and with 85 nm of torque plus the run on of a Bosch gen 4 , you can guarantee by the time everything stops , its way too late for the mech. This would have been a great test for a UDH mount , I don't car how strong they claim to be , I want to it survive this test and not destroy the CF droput too! 😂
It's...Carbon. What is the deal with carbon? And with Bosch? Seems Bosch, has quite the monopoly on e-bikes. The Yamaha PW-X3, is much better power transfer. And that linkage, on the Canyon bikes, is not stable nor reliable, especially for us heavy-riders, which EMBN, seems quite biased against. Much as air shocks. Canyon, should go with coil shocks, and a simple, ten-speed.
Is it just me or whoever is the sponsor of the videos/page is promoted as the “best” product to buy, I’ve seen many videos by many pages and it seems almost all videos are VERY bias towards to sponsor :(
It's a magazine show funded by sponsors .... I'd be very surprised if it was any different. I think they do a good, but difficult job of keeping balance and satisfying the sponsors.
100% agree canyon have every one paid off 😂😂😂 iam sure they are great to ride but I would rather it was from a non biased view point. Still waTch it however 😂 it always seems to bd canyon, giant or trek ....never anything else 💰
Clearly not perfect😂, when are we going to see combined motor/gearbox on ebikes? Thought at least Yamaha with their motorbike history would have something on the market by now!
Bah, Ive done many years on bicycles and the only rear derailleur issue was one going into the spokes. Due to the dealer not having checked stop screws on a new bike.
You guys broke the Embargo! by a few minutes... not fair. The Embargo was at 11:00 am CET. not three minutes beforehand. @mtbmag broke it by an hour! MTB cult by a few minutes as well. I respected the embargo. Why is it so hard for you guys to respect the rules? I assume you will have a lame excuse prepared... Pink bike respected the Embargo, ebikes org, the list goes on who respected it.
@@asifitmatters1 hey, we all sign legal contracts normally as journalists when we go to these events and its well respected and known that we all obey the embargo. It's there for a reason. Some commercial some logistical and also fairness. All the professional tech journalists have the same rules as well, for example the apple Vision Pro had the same rules. No one i saw broke Apple's Embargo. If you have companies like EMBN breaking those rules in this case, then it's completely unfair. In reality they are gaming the algorithm and interested in numbers only. Embargo is an embargo, you want to break it expect to be called out. Or don't go to the event and live your own way, fair enough. But all the other magazines respected it apart from three. Pretty unprofessional really. Time to call them out on it. They are big enough they don't need to, so why did they do it?? Basically not following rules to get ahead by a few minutes. No excuses, it was in clear emails sent to everyone time and day...
Wow, a whole 3 minutes! who cares?……apart from you, obviously!🤦🏼♂️ Like anyone watched it in the first 3 minutes of release anyway? It’s just another Canyon e-bike!🤷🏼♂️
If I was canyon, you'd be fired for this commercial. What a mess. Exaggerations everywhere. That was no world class downhill unless you mean 30 yrs ago on a hardtail. I have no idea what you were going on about just riding down pavement.
I once had a bit of wine and lost my bike for good. As it's just a one letter away from what happened in this video, I can relate to this.
Love the rage level going up by the second lol 😂 😂 and two ladies just toddling up on the hard tails lol 😂 great vid though.. lake Garda look’s epic
Thanks! We're glad you enjoyed it (a lot more than Steve did)!
@@embn It made my day! Im even older than Steve, and have sat in the dirt at roadside on a hot day, changing a tube on a motorcycle tire. Way more involving than swapping tubes on bicycles.
People express sympathy for old guys sweating in the dirt, somewhat.
10:51 "hey chow chow" 😂 The nuns didn’t look too happy
Well good to get though that section of "challenged" choices. Great segment Sir. Cheers! - M
Taffs broke another. Good on you mate, looks like you're having a great time at work
6:02 that made me laugh so hard. 😁
great video as usual. I love the Canyon ebikes for quality value but please ask them why we can't get any of them in Canada. They are missing out on a lot of sales! They are available in the US but warranty would be void if we get them there apparently. I've asked on Canyon chat but no insight. thx!
I quite enjoyed watching Steve sweat and pump that tire up, more mechanical issues should maybe be incorporated.
I was just thinking of buying that model ! Completely put off now 😂
I would like to buy Neuron: On CF 8, but unfortunately I can't try it before I buy it. I'm not a big rider in difficult terrain - rocks, downhills, but how do you feel riding a longer distances on this bike - forest paths, field roads, roads? I mean, isn't there a short distance between the handlebars and the saddle, and how comfortable is the ride at 50+ km? I am afraid that the XL size will be small for my height of 188cm/95kg. When riding on the road, this bike seems small even for you. :). I had the Haibike Almtn 2 until now.
I have the Neuron On 7, 2022, and I love the Bike! My Question is: Why change the motor from Shimano EP8 to the Bosch?
Steve, you poor guy! You and the camera crew forced to go to this magnificent location and enjoy some of the most beautiful views in that part of the world. Too bad about the mech though, for sure. Good on you and the crew.
Great video! I own an Ecotric tornado ebike, This powerful, practical, and affordable bike makes riding for fun or exercise very enjoyable.
Brilliant video, the bike and location look awesome.👌
I once was riding home when I was almost hit on the head with a flying saucer!! They pulled up in front of me... and I dunted my front forks against the ship!! Then, a sliding door opened and I was taken in with my bike by some sort of tractor beam! I really cannot remember much after that.. But I woke up in a field the next day with my eMTB in perfect condition!! wowzer! I only wish I had remembered to bring some co2 bottles!! then I could've used them as mini bombs against the aliens!! But all's well that ends well... eh
Did you get the make and model of the saucer?
@@stevejones7956 Yes! It was a 1957 saucerooter (with fluffy dice on the rear view mirror!)
Woo, we get some Pump-Action-Francis, except that it's Steve!
Is it possible to replace the battery if it is damaged?
Have you had a similar mechanical nightmare on a ride? Did you manage to bodge your way through it? Let us know in the comments 👇
yep, was riding home from work through Margam park Port Talbot (my usual route) and for some reason a film crew had covered the path in Innocuous straw which snapped my derailleur, was not impressed
To be fair, and slighlty innapropriate, if that was a steam analogue bike, you wouldn't have bust the mech.
Broken Swingarm on a FOCUS, 30 km from home...
A piece of Wood and a little bit of Wire- and i rode home...
Yes! Just like that! had to improvise and bring it home.😨
If you have the new Sram wireless transmission you can easily rearrange the flipped derailleur at that issue. And go on your way without a broken derailleur. 😁👍🏻
This is why mtbs and especially Emtbs should have gearboxes instead of fragile derailleurs... For example Intradrive !!
anyway shouldn't hanger break before derailleur? :> these UDH are to tough xD
Beatifull!!!!😊
As cool as this bike seems, I am having an absolute blast on my Spectral ON CF8, the thing is totally addicting.
The more I ride it, the more I plan rides on it.
i am planning to buy neuron on ep 6.. I hope it will be blast!
I was thinking about the Spectral but the latest Neuron and the new Strive come with the Bosch CX (and if you have the $$$ the CX Race). I've become so bored comparing all the motors 😂 Each review I have read puts the Bosch ahead of the EP8 - however the new EP801 with auto changing gears looks interesting too.
@dom9882 yes but you then also need di2. So you're looking at big money
Had any issues at all?.? I can't decide between neuron 8 or spectral 8...I really want the bosch motor and heard fair few issues with the ep8, the battery cover and battery tabs breaking
Whats the headangle on this bike?
Hi everyone! I have a doubt and I need your help, please.
Do you know how long is the new Neuron 8 CF top tube (letter C from geometry)? Are 682 mm correct in size S?
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Is this something you should buy insurance for? Asking for a neighbor. Is this considered a first generation of e-bike?
A Little geographic lesson, it’s Riva…. Garda itself is located southeast at the lake. My goodness how many times have you been there 😅
Thanks. I get it with Garda but you might need to tell a ton of map companies, Riva Del Garda appears to be a place hahah
@@stevejones7956 Hahaha Steve, I‘m just here to help 😃… next time you’re in Treviso (might shooting with Pinarello) 🍕🍻 is on me! Great show!
4:18 8:28 Going on about 140mm travel when in other vids you say 150mm is the sweet spot.
XS frames missing
And that is why you dont spend ridiculous amounts of money on derailleurs. The supidest , most unforseen thing is what will destroy a mech and with 85 nm of torque plus the run on of a Bosch gen 4 , you can guarantee by the time everything stops , its way too late for the mech.
This would have been a great test for a UDH mount , I don't car how strong they claim to be , I want to it survive this test and not destroy the CF droput too! 😂
9:34 I was thinking: What will happen, if you ride a SRAM Transmission?
Broke the Carbon- Frame?
Played with a band from Canada in Verona in the early '90s, and hung around Lago de Garda, beautiful place!
Humble brag.
2019 Levo expert. Best e-bike ever made.oh they dont sell Canyon over here
Fixed battery?
It is removable but not easily.. rather annoying.
It's...Carbon. What is the deal with carbon? And with Bosch? Seems Bosch, has quite the monopoly on e-bikes. The Yamaha PW-X3, is much better power transfer. And that linkage, on the Canyon bikes, is not stable nor reliable, especially for us heavy-riders, which EMBN, seems quite biased against. Much as air shocks. Canyon, should go with coil shocks, and a simple, ten-speed.
Those are the rides where you fcku it off, sit at the bar and watch the honeys wander round.
Gearbox MTBs 1 - 0 Derailleur MTBs
I myself I am a front derailleur killer
This Bike doesn’t have a display?? 😢
so easily you learned the meaning of the word "Sfiga "in Italian ciao!
Perfect? Ultimate? What's next??
The new sram would have broken in the same situation???
Nah, it'd have bost well before he started the ride.
I’m still riding my 19 expert Levo that’s awesome. No need for a new bike.
All too heavy!!! My Focus Raven2 is 14 kg. Perfect!
Is it just me or whoever is the sponsor of the videos/page is promoted as the “best” product to buy, I’ve seen many videos by many pages and it seems almost all videos are VERY bias towards to sponsor :(
It's a magazine show funded by sponsors .... I'd be very surprised if it was any different. I think they do a good, but difficult job of keeping balance and satisfying the sponsors.
100% agree canyon have every one paid off 😂😂😂 iam sure they are great to ride but I would rather it was from a non biased view point. Still waTch it however 😂 it always seems to bd canyon, giant or trek ....never anything else 💰
Clearly not perfect😂, when are we going to see combined motor/gearbox on ebikes? Thought at least Yamaha with their motorbike history would have something on the market by now!
Bah, Ive done many years on bicycles and the only rear derailleur issue was one going into the spokes.
Due to the dealer not having checked stop screws on a new bike.
You guys broke the Embargo! by a few minutes... not fair. The Embargo was at 11:00 am CET. not three minutes beforehand. @mtbmag broke it by an hour! MTB cult by a few minutes as well. I respected the embargo. Why is it so hard for you guys to respect the rules? I assume you will have a lame excuse prepared... Pink bike respected the Embargo, ebikes org, the list goes on who respected it.
DONT get out of your pram over it!
@@asifitmatters1 hey, we all sign legal contracts normally as journalists when we go to these events and its well respected and known that we all obey the embargo. It's there for a reason. Some commercial some logistical and also fairness.
All the professional tech journalists have the same rules as well, for example the apple Vision Pro had the same rules.
No one i saw broke Apple's Embargo.
If you have companies like EMBN breaking those rules in this case, then it's completely unfair. In reality they are gaming the algorithm and interested in numbers only. Embargo is an embargo, you want to break it expect to be called out. Or don't go to the event and live your own way, fair enough. But all the other magazines respected it apart from three. Pretty unprofessional really. Time to call them out on it. They are big enough they don't need to, so why did they do it?? Basically not following rules to get ahead by a few minutes. No excuses, it was in clear emails sent to everyone time and day...
Wow, a whole 3 minutes! who cares?……apart from you, obviously!🤦🏼♂️ Like anyone watched it in the first 3 minutes of release anyway? It’s just another Canyon e-bike!🤷🏼♂️
@@alexbiketester wow. Toys totally out the pram.
Calm down karen
LOL - SH!
If I was canyon, you'd be fired for this commercial. What a mess. Exaggerations everywhere. That was no world class downhill unless you mean 30 yrs ago on a hardtail. I have no idea what you were going on about just riding down pavement.
mmmmm cake
😂😂😂👌👌👍👍👍
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f.... commercial