I just bought my neighbors 2002 firebird trans am. 20k miles for 14 grand. There’s still factory stickers under the car 😂. I enjoy it, it’s no Audi but you can’t beat the V8 T-Top on a sunny day.
@@timsacco6g694 I have a S-Line, the interior quality and comfort make GM vehicles interior quality feel like a fleet truck inside. Also this fbody handles like a boat, and has traction issues on factory set up. My Audi handles like a dream from the factory. I just hate having to throw money at my Audi just to enjoy those comforts. Where as my fbody just works 🤷🏽.
96-97 LT1s were 285-315 depending on SLP options. 97 had a LT4 option too; underrated at 330hp. Some were making more than that at the wheels. The LT1 is nothing to scoff at either; one of the fastest modded fbodies is a LT1. Yes, the optispark is a known issue, but other than that they are pretty solid engines. They might not be as loved as the LS1... but they sure do sound a lot meaner. Nice video! I love 4th gens 😃
The reverse flow cooling is what allows the engine to hit almost 11:1 compression ratio. It is also used in racing since it allows engines to reach higher compression ratios.
The optispark was not the issue. Well the earlier ones without the vented distributor was a problem with ozone left over from spark ignition causing corrosion, but the later ones were bullet proof. The problem was people believing you didn’t have to maintain them after extended mileage. I have a 97 WS6 with 85k miles. Runs great.
I daily drive a 98 Z28 that I bought new, just rolled past 222,222mi on the chassis. About the only remaining stock powertrain component is the 10-bolt. Once I stopped shocking the rear end, no problems. Once I added the AutoTrix passenger window fix kit, haven’t had a power window stop working. No door cracks, had to replace cracked dash once, worn tilt pin housing is a pita. Plastic guides in power seats break. Heel wear under pedals. B-pillar paint. Cheap alternators commonly fail. Water intrusion can fail valley cover knock sensors unless you follow TSB. Just stuff off the top of my head.
The 3800 V6 also had the Y87 performance pkg that added to the sportiness feel. Also traction control is very important if you ever plan to drive these even on just wet roads. Great info on there...
Traction control is debatable on wet roads. I have a 6 speed and haven’t bad any issues getting going. However in the ice or even a little snow they won’t go anywhere.
I’ve seen 1 of the purple ws6 cars. It was blacked out, had a tub kit and wide ass tires. Was clearly a built car. Absolutely sexy. Saw it back in 2010 when I had a z06. I’ve always wanted a blacked out purple ws6 since that day
Great video, thanks! I owned two TAs, the latter being a purple metallic 1995. It was a blast to own and drive and looked terrific. My favorite of all time is the gorgeous 25th Anniversary TransAm with T-tops. If I had carte blanche, I'd have one of those in my garage.
A few things regarding the 4th gen birds: -The bubbling on the sail panel (while it can still happen) is really only an issue on the 1999-2002 cars, as the adhesive used to bind it to the frame emits argon gas which causes the paint to bubble up. -The 1998 V8 cars still actually use the LT1 era cars PCM, just modified for use on the LS1. Makes it a little trickier to tune/find someone to tune it, but really not a big deal. -An EGR is present on the LS1 cars from 1998-2000, whereas 2001-2002 have have no EGR (2000 model year cars that got the LS6 intake do not have an EGR). -The 2001-2002 and some 2000 LS1 cars also have the *slightly* better flowing LS6 intake manifold. Easiest way to tell is whether or not you have an LS6 intake is by the presence or absence of the EGR. -The blinker failsafe on 1999-2002 cars is different than earlier years. Meaning if a blinker goes out in a '99-'02 car, the blinker will blink quickly, as per modern standards. However, the '98 and older cars will hold the affected light solid. -In reference of rarity, for the facelifted cars the 1998 cars are the least produced and subsequently rarest, while the 2002 cars are by far the most produced and much easier to find (especially in reference to WS6, Anniversary and Firehawk models.) -For the Pre-Facelift cars, the 1993 model year is actually the rarest of ALL 4th gens with only about 14,500 produced across all trims, compared to 1994 which had about 55,000 produced across all trims. -A special thing about the 1994 model year, is that it is the ONLY year you could get the Trans Am GT which is not easily identifiable by any external decals or bodywork. However, as long as a T/A is a 1994 model year and has a 155mph speedometer instead of the standard 115mph speedometer, it is a GT equipped car. It was dropped in '95 because all the options the GT gave in '94 became standard in '95. -In the 1998 LS1 cars, the water temp gauge is actually functional, whereas on the '99 and later cars it is a "dummy gauge" that will only show overheating temps. -1998-2000 had a slightly larger cam than 2001-2002 cars -1998-1999 cars had more restrictive exhaust manifolds -1998 cars as well as 2001-2002 cars had 28lb fuel injectors while 1999-2000 cars had 26lb injectors. (The '98 part number and '01-02 part numbers are different though) -1993-1998 cars have a 15.5 US gal fuel tank, whereas 1999-02 cars have a 16.8 US gal tank. -1999-2002 cars have an oil life monitor -2000-2002 cars have child seat safety hooks -Very few 2001-2002 LS cars actually had LS6 blocks, identifiable by a darker casting compared to LS1 equipped cars -1999-2002 cars have a different PCV with a different valve location than '98 cars. Obviously I know a bit more about the LS cars than the LT cars because...well...I own one lol. Regardless, many of these statements will apply unilaterally to both the Birds and Camaros with some exceptions. That being said, if you are thinking about buying one of these ageing beauties, DO IT, you wont regret it for a second.
2002 WS6 owner red with brown interior I love the car it’s my second one my first one I fully dragged it out ended up selling it the one I have now has full interior bolt ons & it’s my daily 😎
Nice video! I was going to say, another uncommon package is the Y87. I have a stock, fully loaded, red 1998 W68 Y87 t-top Firebird. It has a Trans Am steering rack, TA suspension, LSD POSI, dual exhaust, air damn, 10 speaker monsoon radio system and a grey leather interior. Kinda like a TA with a V6. She's a garage queen so I'm lucky there's zero rust, zero dash nor door panel cracks and the leather looks new. You're absolutely right by telling people to keep these cars in a garage.
@@sammyjammy6647 from what I've been told, car covers can make things worse like hold in moisture and flap against the car. But just sitting outside isn't any good either. If it has to sit outside, make sure it's on concrete where there's plenty of airflow.
Getting the correct cover is everything. One with multilayers, waterproof, UV resistance and a breathable layer. I have one and the car will stay perfectly dry even in the heaviest rains. Not a drop underneath. You need the breathable layer just so that condensation and moisture can vent out. Also like you said keeping it on concrete or asphalt matters as well. Sitting on a dirt patch is terrible. If you have to at leas put down a tarp or something to keep ground moisture out.
Great vid! Common ls1 engine problems on the later years were piston slap noise when cold and oil consumption - esp on the manual cars due to higher rpms. Some would start burning oil pretty bad when they more miles on them.
From a F-body guy, a very good video. Now if you haven’t done it yet make that Camaro video! Everyone wanted the Firebird, but many still cannot afford it. The Camaro was lighter and hence faster and the best bang for the buck. Appreciate an awesome video!
In 2001 I bought a new 2001 Camaro SS 6 speed. Sold it a few years later, but now looking to buy a 02 SS 6 speed. Navy blue with t-tops. 14,500 original miles and garaged since new. Excellent condition with a clean title and Carfax.
From what I remember back in 1994, was the only time you could get a TA with the low mount wing. The base model TA had the low wing and the one year only Trans Am GT had the high mount. In '93, and '95-'02 TA's the high mount was the standard wing. I have the sales brochures for '93-'02, and there's no mention of a low mount wing option. The TA Firehawk's also had a unique rear wing as an extra option. The Dark Green Metallic color was also available in 1994, I had a Formula in that color. Currently have a '94 TA GT. One option you missed were the 1LE cars, which were slightly stripped down cars with stiffer suspensions, that were intended for racing. They're pretty rare in both Firebirds and Camaros.
2002 ws6 with 19k miles. Have her ripped apart right now. Putting in a btr stage 2 cam in but working on her with my boys so slow rolling. But my favorite car to work on so far.
I think there is one trim package thats a little known, but very desirable (if not the most desirable in my opinion) is the GMMG package only offered in 2001-2002 by Carl Black Pontiac where they made only 50 blackbirds and 19 total 35th Anniversary Firebirds. Now these are super rare to find and all 6 speed. HP 375-600 all motor.
Led conversion for turn signals and all exterior lights is pretty easy, get some quality bulbs and the turn signal flasher that's made for leds to prevent the "fast flash". As for headlights LMC housings and HID kit works wonders.
Got an '01 Trans Am WS-6 black on black T-tops. Sat in the weather for years with a blown engine, went through numerous car covers, and has some serious weather wear as you'd expect. Even in its current condition, being the only one of its kind here in the NT in Australia, it still turns heads! 😂
99 trans am here, had it since 2011. Great video! Little thing I've learnt over the years, there's a company that sells the t-top reseal kit that, knock on wood, has fixed my leak for 8 years now. But I gotta say, I cracked up when you said listen to the ls1 and it sounded like it was knocking 😂😂😂😂
Had a 97 Trans Am WS6 and had most of the problems you mentioned except no leaks in the T-top. Fun car to drive, great handling. But what a bear to work on, needed new window motors every 4 or 5 years. And spark plugs, don't even get me started. No issues with the 4L60E trans but the rear axle was starting to whine when I sold it.
I’ve a 4th gen Camaro that I’m learning up on because I want it to be my first project car and it’s been interesting to find out the firebird is similar to it. Great vid!
The power steering fluid is cooled through the radiator. When this system fails it dumps and mixes all your power steering fluid into your coolant. This also causes head gasket failure and failure of all other gaskets, hoses, and seals. It's best to bypass your power steering lines from your radiator to prevent this nightmare from happening.
I have a 2000 black Firebird V6 with the ground effects that make it look like a Trans Am. Im at 197,000 miles and I love this car. Ill never get rid of it. Yes it needs some work here and there, but over all its in great shape. I dream of getting it fully restored one day with maybe some upgrades to get it more close to the Trans Am V8. But seems like there are zero shops in my area that would do this.
One of my ex bfs had two trans ams: a daily white and midnight blue racer.. I know one was a '98, maybe both of them were..? Didn't pay attention back then to the specs, but it was those cars that started my love and admiration for Pontiac..haha.
The t-tops don't leak, provided the seals are good and you park it on level ground. That was the one thing that would cause my 1999 Z28 to leak, parked it on a slope nose pointing down, would leak on the rear floorboard if we had a monsoon type rain. Found a different spot to park it on flat level ground, never did it again. Also automatic car wash will cause it to leak on that seal at the windshield/window/t-top corner, just a few drops.
Yes do a Camaro video. I'm the few of less then 5 it's top 5 rarest colors option factory Gm vin matching Gm paint options . Mystic teal filp green blueish # ordered car z28 LS. That are still around today. Ps bought new at age 18 ..fully option 6 t56 car. Is now my small tire stock suspension grudge car.
Had a dark blue 02 WS6 6spd. Built 8/02, meaning it was one of the last ones produced (within a month or so of the end of the model run) Sold it about 5 years ago. Big mistake. They're bringing big money now. mid 01 to end of 02 they were installing LS6 intake manifolds from the factory. Gave them a little more power. Great cars.
the early ls1 engines had issues with the rocker bearings spitting needles in the oil, i had multiple needles on my oil plug so i put lsx rocker rollers in at 45,000 miles
The cars from 1995 and newer have a vented optispark so the moisture doesn't mess it up. I've driven my 1995 Firebird in the rain and it's never died on me.
There's oodles of GM cars out there on 30 year old OE Opti, with hundreds of thousands across them, probably the most misunderstood part of any F body, with many good ones being wrongly replaced. 😎
It’s not moisture, but the ozone from spark ignition causing corrosion over time. Moisture is only caused from improper mounting optispark to the timing cover
Have a Black T-Top 94' Camaro Z28 6 speed car and love it to death. Only problem I have encountered has been the dreaded optispark. Fortunately enough, Torqhead offers a kit that completely deletes it and upgrades it to a LS1 ignition style system and LS1 PCM. All in one, ready to go kit. It was the first thing I did on my car. It costed me approximately 1900$-2000$ Currently making 277 hp and 301lb-ft of torque to the wheel and all I have done is headers, exhaust, optispark delete/Torqhead kit, clutch and flywheel, and a tune. Not bad for a stock/mild LT1.
I agree. I have 150k on my 98. Used to daily it year round even in winter with blizzaks, but last year I bought a daily driver for the colder / snowing season, so mine sits except spring through fall. I'll take it out maybe once every 2 weeks in the winter as long as there's no snow or salt on the roads.
Great vid! Love it! Dark Green Met was available in 95, not just 96/97. . Had one. Have the navy blue 01 WS-6 now, had the champagne '02 ws-6 and champagne '00 T/A. All 6 speeds.
@@hakosan86 Well I had 3 3rd gens too a 91 White Trans AM GTA w/ the 5.7 and a burgundy 91 GTA 5.7 and an ultra rare late '92 Formula 350 w/ factory T-Tops (1 of 57).. I sold that one because I'm stupid, but the one I have now (01 Navy WS-6 6 spd) I like the best because out of ALL the cars listed, no car payment. :) Plus this one only has 33 k original miles on it and has a built LQ9 (Iron block LS2) making over 400 rwhp and it's mine, all mine BWAAHAAHAAA!! lol
I have always been a huge trans am fan. My 1st cousin has a 1979 special edition trans am with a 301 v8 motor so it’s not a fast car by any way. But what makes awesome is that it has the factory 4 speed manual that only 213 were made in that package.
Rarest are the Callaway Supernatural and c8 camaros. I have a Supernatural Camaro without the bodywork. The cost back in the 90's for my setup was around $33k for the engine. Callaway offered a lifetime warranty to the original owner
I had one for a few years, with a Zoom Raccing Clutch & a Whipple charger. Would boil the tires hitting 3rd at 90 mph. Ate Mustangs for Dinner. 1st car Was an TansAm 89’ that looked like KIT. Really MISS that car !!!.... would smoke 2nd & was an Automatic, that turned A alot of heads back then.
Just saw a commercial with a car collision with a spinout. It wasnt Camaro/Trans am. But for a moment, I thought what hell of way to start the buyers guide.
I've got a 1995 Firebird with 3.4 V6, Never had any engine problems except had two replace leaking water pump a few years ago. Never had any problems with the gas milage. Still runs and looks great at 29 years old and 210,000 miles. T-tops have never leaked but I maintain all the rubber trim and cowl plastic with tire wet.
LS1 do have some issues, Pushrods are the known big issue. And the bubbling sail panel was a LS1 year issue, the LT1 years didn't have those problems. And one special edition forgotten was Comp T/As.
“If it has underbody rust stay away from it” I bought a 01 Firebird with 120,000 mi in 2017 for $200 with one pin hole in 2022 I just cut the entire floor out
The 88U bright purple metallic, the made something like 466 total only in 98 out of the 466, 12 were ws6 cars, there was 6 manual and 4 automatic coupes, 1 manual and 1 automatic convertible. The reason that colour was offered only one year is because it would peel easy, so it’s not uncommon to see a real factory purple trans am non ws6 with a repaint.
When it comes to these cars, code 41U is the code to have and if you want to eliminate the problem with the leaking water pump on the LT1?, install an electric pump
Great video, I would add crappy clear coat to the list of things to look out for. Other than that, my 2000 Trans Am has 153,000 miles and still runs fantastic with basic maintenance. The old girl still spanks all the diesel truck bros that always want to race me.
bright purple metallic such a great color. just wild enough to really stand out without being completely obnoxious. and rare. gold metallic also nice but i think my navy blue is the best. all are good though, because you cant go wrong with any of them. just need to get mine running again now. poor things sat too long waiting.
I have a 95 lt1 6 speed 60k miles, I caught my water pump leak right away, reason being is it leaks out the hole onto the belt so I had no power steering, when charging the water pump I put rags over the opti and it’s almost unavoidable, the opti will get coolant on it but just try to minimize it obviously, put it back together and forgot to plug the opti back in haha so it wouldn’t start, thought I ruined it, found the plug, car fired right up.
Nice man! I’ve definitely felt that before where I did a job and and it wouldn’t start and it turned out just to be a wire i forgot to reconnect. Glad everything went well!
I just got an old firebird that i plan on rebuilding it very soon what are some things that i should know about(i have basic car knowledge) i want to swap the v6 for a v8
They are great cars! My only concern is how far is the windshield sticks over the engine. I don't know personally but I've heard plug swaps or a nightmare
Those are Some of the Sharpest Cars out there. And I’m a Dodge guy. Black 1st then purple. But I would like a Dark Metallic Green with Black and Chrome.
The Formula and Firehawk originally only came with the base model spoiler. In fact the Firehawk package was only available on the Formula trim to start. It started on the 3rd gen 91/92 cars, then the lt1. Wasn't until the LS1 cars came out that the Firehawk could be added on the Trans Am. Best colors besides the sunset orange metallic imo was the navy blue and that weird pewter color. It was kinda a mix between silver and gold. I was gonna pull the trigger on a ws6 Formula that was that color. Car was sold before I could get out there 😞
Cool video but can't believe you didn't talk about the camaro ss convertible slp or the z28s. I feel you though I prefer the trans am but I daily a 2000 camaro ss convertible and man is it sweet.
Was hoping you have some more info regarding convertible versions, but otherwise, a decent video. Trying to pick up an 02 SS with around 130k and looking for as much info I can get.
I heen wanting a 4th gen trans am ws6 for years but i allways think of the biggest problems engine to far back and has to be removed from the bottom and the rear and the fuel tank has to be dropped to get to the fuel pump
My 2001 Camaro SS that I bought new burned about a quart of oil every 800 miles. After arguing with the dealer, they finally replaced the rings, and that helped a bit. Does anyone know if GM remedy this problem by the 2002 model year.
Excellent video, I just got my Firehawk Trans Am Convertible out of the garage after ten years (Gasp) of sitting. I was young don’t judge lol. Needed a new fuel pump and just like you said a water pump! It also needed wheel bearings, tires n brakes. But I feel like I hit the lottery. My question is what does SFI engine mean ?
Never go with cheap optisparks made with cheap Chinese optical sensors. They are common for going out when they get hot. Also go either a Remanufactured AcDelco unit it petris optisparks. Only they still have the very well made Mitsubishi optical sensor.
@@Cheeseburgerperson141 Im debating getting one. Seen a ls1 for sale, buts also a v6 3.8 half price in decent shape and new nice paint job. Can’t decide. Transmission does concern me in these cars and age, and by previous owners. But I love the look, and that 5.7
@@joepearlzz8504 my transmission did go out one time. I payed 3K for a brand new one. I don’t really race the car. I just drive it back and forth work and home, I do take it to car shows/meets. I did a road trip from Chicago to misourri.
@@joepearlzz8504 in my honest opinion I think a v6 would be a good start for you. All cars I’ve previously driven all had v8s but I am considering in maybe getting a 4 or 6 cylinder. That’s up to you. LS1 or V6 I like em both. Sometimes I did wish I owned a v6 firebird
A ws6 formula is a bit more than a little more rare...haha it's about 20x as rare! I have a 01 formula and 99 trans am, I actually prefer the formula greatly. Not only does it look more unassuming, it's about 100lbs lighter. The options on these cars make no sense either, my formula is better equipped than my trans am ( cd changer/monsoon and traction control). The ws6 prices make no sense, the cars don't make any more power. The suspension is supposed to have thicker sway bars...but GM was lazy and knew the car was dead. They all have the same suspension. They do have larger wheels? I personally don't like the ws6 hood so perhaps I'm jaded...but it's not worth paying thousands more for a ws6 imo. The ws6 to base ratio is almost 50/50 in 4th gens. In 98-2000 nearly all trans ams were base models and in 01-02 nearly all trans ams were ws6s. The 98-2000 cars had the LS1 intake and bigger cam...they do run similar 1/4 miles to the 01-02 but they feel down on torque compared to a lt1. The 01-02 cars have better synchros, z06 clutch, ls6 intake and truck cam. Similar peak power but it definitely makes a difference in feel down low. A 01-02 car feels like a lt1 with a cam, no lack of torque at any rpm I think they are the best value for the dollar since new. They have always performed well and now continue to appreciate. They already have exceeded c5 values, not hard to understand why considering the low production numbers and abuse these things suffered Awesome video! By the way, there are some nice ones out there that haven't been abused. It took me years to find one but I'm glad I did. Buy one that hasn't been beat even if it's a spec you don't love.
99 Black WS6 here. 31k miles. I love her more than my girlfriend. Kidding. Kind of.
I would too lol.
I know your not lying because mine has 128k and I feel the same way 🤣
I have a CETA with 60k miles and love it more than my wife. Kidding not kidding.
She might as well BE your girlfriend
There's no kind of for me, it's fact! 😂
I just bought my neighbors 2002 firebird trans am. 20k miles for 14 grand. There’s still factory stickers under the car 😂. I enjoy it, it’s no Audi but you can’t beat the V8 T-Top on a sunny day.
He must not know what he had because I see cars like that going for $30k+!
Why in the hell would you want an Audi anyway?
@@timsacco6g694 I have a S-Line, the interior quality and comfort make GM vehicles interior quality feel like a fleet truck inside. Also this fbody handles like a boat, and has traction issues on factory set up. My Audi handles like a dream from the factory.
I just hate having to throw money at my Audi just to enjoy those comforts. Where as my fbody just works 🤷🏽.
That's a killer deal with these cars with lower mileage like that and well kept are going for over 26k where I live.
2001 years WS6. 80k. Sill holding resell value. Sliver
3 2002 Trans Ams here. Two Firehawks & a ws6. Red & sunset Hawks & a Navy ws6. Bought new, I will die owning all three. All black interior manuals.
YOU DA MAN!....I had a 99 NBM TA😢...still have my 73 BucRed and my 79 Atlantis blue W72WS6 25k mile 🚗 😅. Never sell my friend.....never sell!
Maple is the best color on these.
My 1998 Trans Am is the dark green met. love it. Was my first car, and 8 years later with 70k more miles shes doing great.
96-97 LT1s were 285-315 depending on SLP options.
97 had a LT4 option too; underrated at 330hp. Some were making more than that at the wheels.
The LT1 is nothing to scoff at either; one of the fastest modded fbodies is a LT1. Yes, the optispark is a known issue, but other than that they are pretty solid engines. They might not be as loved as the LS1... but they sure do sound a lot meaner.
Nice video! I love 4th gens 😃
Thanks you for the great info and for watching!
The reverse flow cooling sucked, as well.
The reverse flow cooling is what allows the engine to hit almost 11:1 compression ratio. It is also used in racing since it allows engines to reach higher compression ratios.
The optispark was not the issue. Well the earlier ones without the vented distributor was a problem with ozone left over from spark ignition causing corrosion, but the later ones were bullet proof. The problem was people believing you didn’t have to maintain them after extended mileage. I have a 97 WS6 with 85k miles. Runs great.
😂😂😂@@apharot
I daily drive a 98 Z28 that I bought new, just rolled past 222,222mi on the chassis. About the only remaining stock powertrain component is the 10-bolt. Once I stopped shocking the rear end, no problems. Once I added the AutoTrix passenger window fix kit, haven’t had a power window stop working. No door cracks, had to replace cracked dash once, worn tilt pin housing is a pita. Plastic guides in power seats break. Heel wear under pedals. B-pillar paint. Cheap alternators commonly fail. Water intrusion can fail valley cover knock sensors unless you follow TSB. Just stuff off the top of my head.
Tilt pivot... That's why that car felt weird that I was test driving... Wonder if there's a way to hard set the wheel and eliminate it
Picking up a 10th anniversary firehawk this weekend and I’ve never been so excited about a car before
Nice did you end up getting it?
The 3800 V6 also had the Y87 performance pkg that added to the sportiness feel. Also traction control is very important if you ever plan to drive these even on just wet roads. Great info on there...
Thanks for your added knowledge and thanks for watching!
Traction control is debatable on wet roads. I have a 6 speed and haven’t bad any issues getting going. However in the ice or even a little snow they won’t go anywhere.
Looks like a beefed up sunfire lol . The older model firebird is way nicer
They also had the same steering rack as the ls cars
The positrack is more important.
2002 WS6 convertible with 12,352 original miles in the garage. Love it!
Wow thats a keeper! How long have you had it?
@@hakosan86 it was delivered July of 2019. It still had the original Goodyear F1 Eagles on it from the factory.
What color?
@@robertgrant3034 Pewter. Black top.
I’ve seen 1 of the purple ws6 cars. It was blacked out, had a tub kit and wide ass tires. Was clearly a built car. Absolutely sexy. Saw it back in 2010 when I had a z06. I’ve always wanted a blacked out purple ws6 since that day
Daily drive my 2001 75th Anniversary Firebird (RPO 1SX) everyday, still a head turner man! Love it!
You got a sick car man! Glad your still enjoying it like it was meant to be enjoyed!
@@hakosan86 thanks man! Really appreciate your compliment, and your content!
I daily a silver 2000 ws6 6 speed and I get so many looks when it’s clean 😂
Great video, thanks! I owned two TAs, the latter being a purple metallic 1995. It was a blast to own and drive and looked terrific. My favorite of all time is the gorgeous 25th Anniversary TransAm with T-tops. If I had carte blanche, I'd have one of those in my garage.
I like that white one w/ the blue stripes. A nice manual transmission car too but they're pricey to get a nice one that hasn't been put thru the mill.
A few things regarding the 4th gen birds:
-The bubbling on the sail panel (while it can still happen) is really only an issue on the 1999-2002 cars, as the adhesive used to bind it to the frame emits argon gas which causes the paint to bubble up.
-The 1998 V8 cars still actually use the LT1 era cars PCM, just modified for use on the LS1. Makes it a little trickier to tune/find someone to tune it, but really not a big deal.
-An EGR is present on the LS1 cars from 1998-2000, whereas 2001-2002 have have no EGR (2000 model year cars that got the LS6 intake do not have an EGR).
-The 2001-2002 and some 2000 LS1 cars also have the *slightly* better flowing LS6 intake manifold. Easiest way to tell is whether or not you have an LS6 intake is by the presence or absence of the EGR.
-The blinker failsafe on 1999-2002 cars is different than earlier years. Meaning if a blinker goes out in a '99-'02 car, the blinker will blink quickly, as per modern standards. However, the '98 and older cars will hold the affected light solid.
-In reference of rarity, for the facelifted cars the 1998 cars are the least produced and subsequently rarest, while the 2002 cars are by far the most produced and much easier to find (especially in reference to WS6, Anniversary and Firehawk models.)
-For the Pre-Facelift cars, the 1993 model year is actually the rarest of ALL 4th gens with only about 14,500 produced across all trims, compared to 1994 which had about 55,000 produced across all trims.
-A special thing about the 1994 model year, is that it is the ONLY year you could get the Trans Am GT which is not easily identifiable by any external decals or bodywork. However, as long as a T/A is a 1994 model year and has a 155mph speedometer instead of the standard 115mph speedometer, it is a GT equipped car. It was dropped in '95 because all the options the GT gave in '94 became standard in '95.
-In the 1998 LS1 cars, the water temp gauge is actually functional, whereas on the '99 and later cars it is a "dummy gauge" that will only show overheating temps.
-1998-2000 had a slightly larger cam than 2001-2002 cars
-1998-1999 cars had more restrictive exhaust manifolds
-1998 cars as well as 2001-2002 cars had 28lb fuel injectors while 1999-2000 cars had 26lb injectors. (The '98 part number and '01-02 part numbers are different though)
-1993-1998 cars have a 15.5 US gal fuel tank, whereas 1999-02 cars have a 16.8 US gal tank.
-1999-2002 cars have an oil life monitor
-2000-2002 cars have child seat safety hooks
-Very few 2001-2002 LS cars actually had LS6 blocks, identifiable by a darker casting compared to LS1 equipped cars
-1999-2002 cars have a different PCV with a different valve location than '98 cars.
Obviously I know a bit more about the LS cars than the LT cars because...well...I own one lol. Regardless, many of these statements will apply unilaterally to both the Birds and Camaros with some exceptions. That being said, if you are thinking about buying one of these ageing beauties, DO IT, you wont regret it for a second.
2002 WS6 owner red with brown interior I love the car it’s my second one my first one I fully dragged it out ended up selling it the one I have now has full interior bolt ons & it’s my daily 😎
Nice video! I was going to say, another uncommon package is the Y87. I have a stock, fully loaded, red 1998 W68 Y87 t-top Firebird. It has a Trans Am steering rack, TA suspension, LSD POSI, dual exhaust, air damn, 10 speaker monsoon radio system and a grey leather interior. Kinda like a TA with a V6. She's a garage queen so I'm lucky there's zero rust, zero dash nor door panel cracks and the leather looks new.
You're absolutely right by telling people to keep these cars in a garage.
Oh wow didn’t know that! Thanks for the info!
If you can’t garage, is a car cover a good substitute?
@@sammyjammy6647 from what I've been told, car covers can make things worse like hold in moisture and flap against the car. But just sitting outside isn't any good either. If it has to sit outside, make sure it's on concrete where there's plenty of airflow.
Yup! Mine came with the Y87 package loved the ground effects. I wish I never sold that car.
Getting the correct cover is everything. One with multilayers, waterproof, UV resistance and a breathable layer. I have one and the car will stay perfectly dry even in the heaviest rains. Not a drop underneath. You need the breathable layer just so that condensation and moisture can vent out. Also like you said keeping it on concrete or asphalt matters as well. Sitting on a dirt patch is terrible. If you have to at leas put down a tarp or something to keep ground moisture out.
Totally enjoyed this. Very informative and the music isn’t overbearing…
Great vid! Common ls1 engine problems on the later years were piston slap noise when cold and oil consumption - esp on the manual cars due to higher rpms. Some would start burning oil pretty bad when they more miles on them.
My 01 SS burned a quart every 800 miles. I argued with the dealer and they replaced the rings. It helped a little.
never had a piston slap as they are most commonly mistaken as lifter lash....
Forgot about the 10th anniversary firehawk.... definitely my favorite bird made!
From a F-body guy, a very good video. Now if you haven’t done it yet make that Camaro video! Everyone wanted the Firebird, but many still cannot afford it. The Camaro was lighter and hence faster and the best bang for the buck. Appreciate an awesome video!
In 2001 I bought a new 2001 Camaro SS 6 speed. Sold it a few years later, but now looking to buy a 02 SS 6 speed. Navy blue with t-tops. 14,500 original miles and garaged since new. Excellent condition with a clean title and Carfax.
Did you get it?
From what I remember back in 1994, was the only time you could get a TA with the low mount wing. The base model TA had the low wing and the one year only Trans Am GT had the high mount. In '93, and '95-'02 TA's the high mount was the standard wing. I have the sales brochures for '93-'02, and there's no mention of a low mount wing option. The TA Firehawk's also had a unique rear wing as an extra option.
The Dark Green Metallic color was also available in 1994, I had a Formula in that color. Currently have a '94 TA GT.
One option you missed were the 1LE cars, which were slightly stripped down cars with stiffer suspensions, that were intended for racing. They're pretty rare in both Firebirds and Camaros.
Those Trans Am WS6 cars are a work of art. They still look so good they could produce it today and it wouldn't be out of place. Just beautiful.
@4:19 That's how I solved my problems in my old Pontiac engine. Expensive spark plugs. Always, from the 84 on.
2002 ws6 with 19k miles. Have her ripped apart right now. Putting in a btr stage 2 cam in but working on her with my boys so slow rolling. But my favorite car to work on so far.
Sounds like a blast! I bet it’s gonna sound amazing when it’s all put back together
LS1s commonly suffer from lifter tick however this problem is not catastrophic.
I think there is one trim package thats a little known, but very desirable (if not the most desirable in my opinion) is the GMMG package only offered in 2001-2002 by Carl Black Pontiac where they made only 50 blackbirds and 19 total 35th Anniversary Firebirds. Now these are super rare to find and all 6 speed. HP 375-600 all motor.
I have a 2002 WS6 all of these small things are true the best upgrade was the LED fog lights.
The black ws6 he swiped for b roll in this vid was pretty tastefully done. Those LED fog lights make the whole car pop
Led conversion for turn signals and all exterior lights is pretty easy, get some quality bulbs and the turn signal flasher that's made for leds to prevent the "fast flash".
As for headlights LMC housings and HID kit works wonders.
I absolutely love these cars. Thanks for sharing.
Me too! Might thin my fleet of cars just to add one to my collection!
Got an '01 Trans Am WS-6 black on black T-tops.
Sat in the weather for years with a blown engine, went through numerous car covers, and has some serious weather wear as you'd expect.
Even in its current condition, being the only one of its kind here in the NT in Australia, it still turns heads! 😂
99 trans am here, had it since 2011. Great video! Little thing I've learnt over the years, there's a company that sells the t-top reseal kit that, knock on wood, has fixed my leak for 8 years now. But I gotta say, I cracked up when you said listen to the ls1 and it sounded like it was knocking 😂😂😂😂
02 camaro z28 6 speed, 191k miles and had never stopped going
Had a 97 Trans Am WS6 and had most of the problems you mentioned except no leaks in the T-top. Fun car to drive, great handling. But what a bear to work on, needed new window motors every 4 or 5 years. And spark plugs, don't even get me started. No issues with the 4L60E trans but the rear axle was starting to whine when I sold it.
I have a 5speed 3.4l with only 30k miles.
Love these cars and they preform well and yes the 3.4l is a slow V6 but it's still very fun to drive
I bet it is, and it looks killer!
I’ve a 4th gen Camaro that I’m learning up on because I want it to be my first project car and it’s been interesting to find out the firebird is similar to it. Great vid!
The power steering fluid is cooled through the radiator. When this system fails it dumps and mixes all your power steering fluid into your coolant. This also causes head gasket failure and failure of all other gaskets, hoses, and seals. It's best to bypass your power steering lines from your radiator to prevent this nightmare from happening.
I have a 2000 black Firebird V6 with the ground effects that make it look like a Trans Am. Im at 197,000 miles and I love this car. Ill never get rid of it. Yes it needs some work here and there, but over all its in great shape. I dream of getting it fully restored one day with maybe some upgrades to get it more close to the Trans Am V8. But seems like there are zero shops in my area that would do this.
One of my ex bfs had two trans ams: a daily white and midnight blue racer.. I know one was a '98, maybe both of them were..? Didn't pay attention back then to the specs, but it was those cars that started my love and admiration for Pontiac..haha.
The t-tops don't leak, provided the seals are good and you park it on level ground. That was the one thing that would cause my 1999 Z28 to leak, parked it on a slope nose pointing down, would leak on the rear floorboard if we had a monsoon type rain. Found a different spot to park it on flat level ground, never did it again. Also automatic car wash will cause it to leak on that seal at the windshield/window/t-top corner, just a few drops.
Yes do a Camaro video. I'm the few of less then 5 it's top 5 rarest colors option factory Gm vin matching Gm paint options . Mystic teal filp green blueish # ordered car z28 LS. That are still around today. Ps bought new at age 18 ..fully option 6 t56 car. Is now my small tire stock suspension grudge car.
Had a dark blue 02 WS6 6spd. Built 8/02, meaning it was one of the last ones produced (within a month or so of the end of the model run) Sold it about 5 years ago. Big mistake. They're bringing big money now. mid 01 to end of 02 they were installing LS6 intake manifolds from the factory. Gave them a little more power. Great cars.
the early ls1 engines had issues with the rocker bearings spitting needles in the oil, i had multiple needles on my oil plug so i put lsx rocker rollers in at 45,000 miles
The Opti-spark really is up to chance. You're either gonna be replacing them every year, or your factory unit is gonna last a lifetime.
How often have replaced yours?
The cars from 1995 and newer have a vented optispark so the moisture doesn't mess it up. I've driven my 1995 Firebird in the rain and it's never died on me.
There's oodles of GM cars out there on 30 year old OE Opti, with hundreds of thousands across them, probably the most misunderstood part of any F body, with many good ones being wrongly replaced. 😎
It’s not moisture, but the ozone from spark ignition causing corrosion over time. Moisture is only caused from improper mounting optispark to the timing cover
Your best bet with the optispark replacement is to go with OEM. Aftermarket replacement is hit or miss.
Have a Black T-Top 94' Camaro Z28 6 speed car and love it to death. Only problem I have encountered has been the dreaded optispark. Fortunately enough, Torqhead offers a kit that completely deletes it and upgrades it to a LS1 ignition style system and LS1 PCM. All in one, ready to go kit. It was the first thing I did on my car. It costed me approximately 1900$-2000$
Currently making 277 hp and 301lb-ft of torque to the wheel and all I have done is headers, exhaust, optispark delete/Torqhead kit, clutch and flywheel, and a tune. Not bad for a stock/mild LT1.
Seems like you should easily be breaking 300+ rwhp?
I daily drive my 01 Trans Am. Got 90k rolling close to 100 now. Black on black. There's no reason not to enjoy this car any chance you get.
I agree. I have 150k on my 98. Used to daily it year round even in winter with blizzaks, but last year I bought a daily driver for the colder / snowing season, so mine sits except spring through fall. I'll take it out maybe once every 2 weeks in the winter as long as there's no snow or salt on the roads.
How is the gas consumption and stuff?? Im planning on getting a v6 as a daily:]
I got an 84 Trans Am WS6 package 305 high output 5 speed brand new I bought it brand new 42803 MI
Great vid! Love it! Dark Green Met was available in 95, not just 96/97. . Had one. Have the navy blue 01 WS-6 now, had the champagne '02 ws-6 and champagne '00 T/A. All 6 speeds.
Nice! Out of all of them which one did you like the most?
@@hakosan86 Well I had 3 3rd gens too a 91 White Trans AM GTA w/ the 5.7 and a burgundy 91 GTA 5.7 and an ultra rare late '92 Formula 350 w/ factory T-Tops (1 of 57).. I sold that one because I'm stupid, but the one I have now (01 Navy WS-6 6 spd) I like the best because out of ALL the cars listed, no car payment. :) Plus this one only has 33 k original miles on it and has a built LQ9 (Iron block LS2) making over 400 rwhp and it's mine, all mine BWAAHAAHAAA!! lol
@@TexasNEVcongrats bro, you fixed your stupid pretty well I'd say! That NBM is a sight to behold. When the sunlight hits it the dark angels sing!
@@IBleedMercuryOfficial Only time will tell if I did.... LOL
I have always been a huge trans am fan. My 1st cousin has a 1979 special edition trans am with a 301 v8 motor so it’s not a fast car by any way. But what makes awesome is that it has the factory 4 speed manual that only 213 were made in that package.
Camaro of the same generation!
Sounds like a plan!
I have a 99z28 artic white ttop built 6.0 straight pipe she's a beast had her nearly 13 years will never stop the mods 😂
Love to see a camaro focused video! Any year (not late 2nd gen)
92 corvette owner but always loved these
Rarest are the Callaway Supernatural and c8 camaros. I have a Supernatural Camaro without the bodywork. The cost back in the 90's for my setup was around $33k for the engine. Callaway offered a lifetime warranty to the original owner
In 2001 and 2002 the TA and Camaro SS LS1 came with the LS6 intake. Increasing the power to 335hp from the factory.
But tell us, is Lena truly fat?
Even the V6 models were awesome, 200hp in the 90s was still enough to have fun with!!
I had one for a few years, with a Zoom Raccing Clutch & a Whipple charger. Would boil the tires hitting 3rd at 90 mph. Ate Mustangs for Dinner. 1st car Was an TansAm 89’ that looked like KIT. Really MISS that car !!!.... would smoke 2nd & was an Automatic, that turned A alot of heads back then.
Does the 12 purple ones count for the v6? There's one for sale near me but it's v6 convertible from 95
Ohh that silver T/A looks beautiful
Just saw a commercial with a car collision with a spinout. It wasnt Camaro/Trans am. But for a moment, I thought what hell of way to start the buyers guide.
had a ‘95 Z28 in black and my neighbor had a WS6 in purple near Syracuse NY….did we just become best friends..,.yup!
I've got a 1995 Firebird with 3.4 V6, Never had any engine problems except had two replace leaking water pump a few years ago. Never had any problems with the gas milage. Still runs and looks great at 29 years old and 210,000 miles. T-tops have never leaked but I maintain all the rubber trim and cowl plastic with tire wet.
LS1 do have some issues, Pushrods are the known big issue. And the bubbling sail panel was a LS1 year issue, the LT1 years didn't have those problems. And one special edition forgotten was Comp T/As.
Solid rear axle mean no LSD? Or no independent rear suspension?
“If it has underbody rust stay away from it” I bought a 01 Firebird with 120,000 mi in 2017 for $200 with one pin hole in 2022 I just cut the entire floor out
Great video. Thank you.
The 88U bright purple metallic, the made something like 466 total only in 98 out of the 466, 12 were ws6 cars, there was 6 manual and 4 automatic coupes, 1 manual and 1 automatic convertible. The reason that colour was offered only one year is because it would peel easy, so it’s not uncommon to see a real factory purple trans am non ws6 with a repaint.
Oh wow didn’t know that. Wish they would have fixed the peeling issue instead of just discontinuing it. Thanks for the info!
Buddy in my town as the convertible one, also has a metallic Corvette baby blue one in a t top cart.
@@sp33dracerx2 are you sure?
@@sp33dracerx2 send me a vin number if you can, I want to see if it’s the real deal
It really is a pretty color.
Awesomeness dude
When it comes to these cars, code 41U is the code to have and if you want to eliminate the problem with the leaking water pump on the LT1?, install an electric pump
I had a brand new 1995 trans am and the color was a dark aqua metallic. Which I added the ram air. Had the 6 speed.
Why did you sell it? Without wanting to be too curious.
Great video, I would add crappy clear coat to the list of things to look out for. Other than that, my 2000 Trans Am has 153,000 miles and still runs fantastic with basic maintenance. The old girl still spanks all the diesel truck bros that always want to race me.
Purple and gold colors are the best 2 colors offered
The First gen Firebird and 4th Gen Trans AM are my favs.
2001-2002 WS6 came with a
Z06/LS6 intake and a bigger cam, making more H.P than the previous year 1999-2000.
bright purple metallic such a great color. just wild enough to really stand out without being completely obnoxious. and rare. gold metallic also nice but i think my navy blue is the best. all are good though, because you cant go wrong with any of them. just need to get mine running again now. poor things sat too long waiting.
I have a 95 lt1 6 speed 60k miles, I caught my water pump leak right away, reason being is it leaks out the hole onto the belt so I had no power steering, when charging the water pump I put rags over the opti and it’s almost unavoidable, the opti will get coolant on it but just try to minimize it obviously, put it back together and forgot to plug the opti back in haha so it wouldn’t start, thought I ruined it, found the plug, car fired right up.
Nice man! I’ve definitely felt that before where I did a job and and it wouldn’t start and it turned out just to be a wire i forgot to reconnect. Glad everything went well!
94 TA 25th Ann GT With A New Crate Motor. About 600 Miles Rn. Waiting On Suspension Parts Rn. ❤
Nicee!!!!
I just got an old firebird that i plan on rebuilding it very soon what are some things that i should know about(i have basic car knowledge) i want to swap the v6 for a v8
They are great cars! My only concern is how far is the windshield sticks over the engine. I don't know personally but I've heard plug swaps or a nightmare
That’s mostly because of the heat shields they put over the boot. Not too bad otherwise
They aren't horrible to do but take some time. Mine is due for a tune up again soon.
i have a WS6. the firebirds are the best muscle car. no contest
Ha,...my husband says," Speaking as the old guy,...I don't have one, now leave me the hell alone!"
I live in Oregon. Looking for a 4th gen F body. Preferably a trans am but Camaro is okay too. In my area, it is very hard to find one.
Those are Some of the Sharpest Cars out there. And I’m a Dodge guy. Black 1st then purple. But I would like a Dark Metallic Green with Black and Chrome.
The Formula and Firehawk originally only came with the base model spoiler. In fact the Firehawk package was only available on the Formula trim to start. It started on the 3rd gen 91/92 cars, then the lt1. Wasn't until the LS1 cars came out that the Firehawk could be added on the Trans Am. Best colors besides the sunset orange metallic imo was the navy blue and that weird pewter color. It was kinda a mix between silver and gold. I was gonna pull the trigger on a ws6 Formula that was that color. Car was sold before I could get out there 😞
What wheels are those at 0:11? I would like a nice set of black wheels.
They look like esr sr12’s or something similar
Cool video but can't believe you didn't talk about the camaro ss convertible slp or the z28s. I feel you though I prefer the trans am but I daily a 2000 camaro ss convertible and man is it sweet.
I got a WS6 with 64k miles 6 speed here.
Wait what 98+ Trans Am had the raised as an "option" fairly certain that was the default unless you had the convertible.
Was hoping you have some more info regarding convertible versions, but otherwise, a decent video. Trying to pick up an 02 SS with around 130k and looking for as much info I can get.
I heen wanting a 4th gen trans am ws6 for years but i allways think of the biggest problems engine to far back and has to be removed from the bottom and the rear and the fuel tank has to be dropped to get to the fuel pump
My 2001 Camaro SS that I bought new burned about a quart of oil every 800 miles. After arguing with the dealer, they finally replaced the rings, and that helped a bit. Does anyone know if GM remedy this problem by the 2002 model year.
Excellent video, I just got my Firehawk Trans Am Convertible out of the garage after ten years (Gasp) of sitting. I was young don’t judge lol. Needed a new fuel pump and just like you said a water pump! It also needed wheel bearings, tires n brakes. But I feel like I hit the lottery. My question is what does SFI engine mean ?
Sequential Fuel Injection.
Great video.
Keep em coming!
It’s simple. Get a manual with T-tops or a hard top. LT1 or LS1 of course
Purple or yellow. I’ll buy one if I can find one. T-Tops or convt for sure. Cool car
Great video (opti spark) super cheap on eBay motors for 200$
Never go with cheap optisparks made with cheap Chinese optical sensors. They are common for going out when they get hot. Also go either a Remanufactured AcDelco unit it petris optisparks. Only they still have the very well made Mitsubishi optical sensor.
00 v6 y87 and 01 formula
I daily my 2002. It will be 5 years of owning my dream car.
Which engine?
@@joepearlzz8504 5.7 ls1
@@Cheeseburgerperson141 Im debating getting one. Seen a ls1 for sale, buts also a v6 3.8 half price in decent shape and new nice paint job. Can’t decide. Transmission does concern me in these cars and age, and by previous owners. But I love the look, and that 5.7
@@joepearlzz8504 my transmission did go out one time. I payed 3K for a brand new one. I don’t really race the car. I just drive it back and forth work and home, I do take it to car shows/meets. I did a road trip from Chicago to misourri.
@@joepearlzz8504 in my honest opinion I think a v6 would be a good start for you. All cars I’ve previously driven all had v8s but I am considering in maybe getting a 4 or 6 cylinder. That’s up to you. LS1 or V6 I like em both. Sometimes I did wish I owned a v6 firebird
A ws6 formula is a bit more than a little more rare...haha it's about 20x as rare!
I have a 01 formula and 99 trans am, I actually prefer the formula greatly. Not only does it look more unassuming, it's about 100lbs lighter. The options on these cars make no sense either, my formula is better equipped than my trans am ( cd changer/monsoon and traction control).
The ws6 prices make no sense, the cars don't make any more power. The suspension is supposed to have thicker sway bars...but GM was lazy and knew the car was dead. They all have the same suspension. They do have larger wheels? I personally don't like the ws6 hood so perhaps I'm jaded...but it's not worth paying thousands more for a ws6 imo. The ws6 to base ratio is almost 50/50 in 4th gens. In 98-2000 nearly all trans ams were base models and in 01-02 nearly all trans ams were ws6s. The 98-2000 cars had the LS1 intake and bigger cam...they do run similar 1/4 miles to the 01-02 but they feel down on torque compared to a lt1. The 01-02 cars have better synchros, z06 clutch, ls6 intake and truck cam. Similar peak power but it definitely makes a difference in feel down low. A 01-02 car feels like a lt1 with a cam, no lack of torque at any rpm
I think they are the best value for the dollar since new. They have always performed well and now continue to appreciate. They already have exceeded c5 values, not hard to understand why considering the low production numbers and abuse these things suffered
Awesome video! By the way, there are some nice ones out there that haven't been abused. It took me years to find one but I'm glad I did. Buy one that hasn't been beat even if it's a spec you don't love.
I’m looking at a gold trans am should I get it or keep saving for a ws6 of any color ???
Can you make a Review on the 89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8 Also The Dodge Stealth AWD.