Literally the second he didn't give the phone the very first time they COULD have arrested him for obstruction, but being an officer grants you a lot of patience
When I was 16, I got detained by police in handcuffs because I was riding my bike at 2am, which was against underage curfew for the city, and they were checking the neighborhood I was riding in for a thief who had just robbed a lady's garage. I was put in handcuffs, my bike was locked to a sign, and they took me to the front of juvenile detention for a couple hours under supervision until my dad showed up to pick me up. The next day, a detective stopped by and checked my shoe size and asked some questions. If I had been arrested, I would have been behind bars and only had access to a single phone call. He was not under arrest up til the time they said "book him for obstructing". Up til then, he doesn't get access to an attorney cause he's not under arrest. He kept saying he needed an attorney to comply with the court order warrant. That's obstruction and they let it slide a long time. Eventually, he won. He gained access to an attorney by being officially arrested. It didn't have to end like that but he really wanted to feel like a victim.
The beeping you hear at the beginning of body cam videos is the camera audio turning on. The beep and vibrate is an indicator to the officer that recording has started. Body cams tend to record without audio for several seconds prior to the recording starting, which is why they start silent and then do that beep beep with the buzzing.
Warrants must be complied with. Yes you can read the warrant before complying. Let’s say I get a warrant for a stolen car. They can search my garage or backyard but if they look through my fridge for a vehicle then they overstep the warrant. The court room is the place for fighting a warrant, not in the moment. Now u could say “why would a car be in a fridge?” And they will probably stop being dumb but the best thing you can do is just let them and seek compensation later
The warrent and his detainment are two different situations. A warrent is a court order to legally obtain information and can only be stopped by another court order. He was detained because they suspected him of committing a crime but without probable cause at the moment, meaning they did not have a legal reason to arrest, they detained him while searching understanding that once they found something, there would be an arrest. Say something came up that prevented him from being arrested at the time, the detainment would end and he would be free to go. Once he is arrested and charged with a crime, he can call his lawyer. Hope this makes sense :)
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To explain a few things at the end. When you are detained, you can be placed in handcuffs, but that doesn't mean you are arrested, that means that they think that you could be a potential danger to the officers or yourself. With him being the sheriff, there is some credibility that he could be a danger so they put him in cuffs. They did not arrest him, when he asked, they didn't say he was arrested, but he was making the statements that he is being under arrest because he's in cuffs and he's not free to leave. As a sheriff, he would know that when you are detained, you are not free to leave while they are in the process of investigating, which they were, and they were trying to get him to comply with the warrant. When he said he was under arrest, and they arrested him for obstruction, that was because under the law, obstruction is when you interfere or prevent an officer from doing their job, in this case getting the sheriff to comply with the warrant. By him not unlocking the phone, he committed non-physical/non-violent obstruction, it's slightly different in certain areas, and therefore was an arrestable offense. If the officers had let him speak to an attorney at the end, which whether or not he had an right to do is debatable since it was about him complying with a warrant, the attorney would have just told him to just shut up, do as the warrant demands, and then let them argue it out in court, as that is the only proper place to argue the validity of warrants and the reach of them.
also yes he was obstructing because there’s a warrant for the phones but he want his attorney to go through it first which would possibly take hours or days which is definitely obstructing the law when the police are right in front of you. You cannot do that without a good reason
I want people to understand why more force wasn’t used is because 1. The guy is still the sheriff. Because he won’t be fired at that moment in time cops under his rank can still be fired. Being respectful is the only way they can get through it without being fired. Once he was found capable of being detained he’s not capable of firing anybody since he’s under suspicion and because his underlings r still using reasonable force he cannot fire them. The reason y his higher ups won’t show force is because 1. It’s a bad look 2. The officers would be having a bad example shown to them and 3. Body cameras. Basically it boils down to “I’m not being rough because I don’t want to lose my job”
I cannot fathom what the plan was supposed to be. He seemed to be trying to get arrested for attorney privileges....but when he got arrested he was confused and angry?
29:49 I believe they’re only required to let him speak to the lawyer once he’s already booked, I’m not a hundred percent sure but they’re not required to provide one while they’re still on scene
If they weren't cops they would have the phone already... ya if they weren't cops everyone in that room would be in cuffs and detained until further investigation
How did he think that was going to end? What if he just keeps being as belligerent and unhelpful as possible they'll just drop it? I'd like to know if he would have received a lighter sentence if he had complied from the very start?
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By law he has to unlock his phone bc its in the warrent then u can do whatever and make ur call after but u have to do everything the warrent says first
I will never understand why cops need to get a warrant for every little thing when it comes to important investigations. I mean seriously, why do they need a warrant for looking through the phone if they already have a warrant to seize/take the phone? Isn't the whole purpose of said phone seizing warrant supposed to be for taking and looking through the phone? What's the point in not only getting permission to take the phone, but also taking the phone after getting said warrant if you can't look through the phone because you have to get permission to look through said phone?
The 4th Amendment protects against unreasonable Search and Seizure by the government. The process to determine if a Search and Seizure is reasonable is going to a judge and having them sign off on it by giving a Search Warrant. There are a few other situations that would also allow for Search and Seizure, but that is the primary one. And there are several reasons you might want to take someone's phone without the intention of looking through it. Taking the phone denies the person access to said phone, so they can't delete anything, they can't reset it to factory, they can't communicate with people very effectively, and maybe that's all the were trying to do at that time.
Cops getting caught countless times shutting off their body camera before committing human rights violations:🗿🗿 Police departments not releasing body camera footage that clearly implicates an officer of committing a crime:🗿🗿🗿
Literally the second he didn't give the phone the very first time they COULD have arrested him for obstruction, but being an officer grants you a lot of patience
When I was 16, I got detained by police in handcuffs because I was riding my bike at 2am, which was against underage curfew for the city, and they were checking the neighborhood I was riding in for a thief who had just robbed a lady's garage. I was put in handcuffs, my bike was locked to a sign, and they took me to the front of juvenile detention for a couple hours under supervision until my dad showed up to pick me up. The next day, a detective stopped by and checked my shoe size and asked some questions. If I had been arrested, I would have been behind bars and only had access to a single phone call. He was not under arrest up til the time they said "book him for obstructing". Up til then, he doesn't get access to an attorney cause he's not under arrest. He kept saying he needed an attorney to comply with the court order warrant. That's obstruction and they let it slide a long time. Eventually, he won. He gained access to an attorney by being officially arrested. It didn't have to end like that but he really wanted to feel like a victim.
Yep, all this is correct.
Great Explanation!
It's hilarious when corrupt cops get caught, thinking that they're above the law 🤣
I see them like Eric Cartman. "Respect my authoritah!!!"
It was at this moment he knew... he f***ed up
"ah shit"
@@SlimeisProbablyAutistichere we go again
@@SlimeisProbablyAutistichere we go again
The beeping you hear at the beginning of body cam videos is the camera audio turning on. The beep and vibrate is an indicator to the officer that recording has started. Body cams tend to record without audio for several seconds prior to the recording starting, which is why they start silent and then do that beep beep with the buzzing.
That tree didn’t even think about leafing 🙃
Warrants must be complied with. Yes you can read the warrant before complying. Let’s say I get a warrant for a stolen car. They can search my garage or backyard but if they look through my fridge for a vehicle then they overstep the warrant. The court room is the place for fighting a warrant, not in the moment. Now u could say “why would a car be in a fridge?” And they will probably stop being dumb but the best thing you can do is just let them and seek compensation later
The warrent and his detainment are two different situations. A warrent is a court order to legally obtain information and can only be stopped by another court order. He was detained because they suspected him of committing a crime but without probable cause at the moment, meaning they did not have a legal reason to arrest, they detained him while searching understanding that once they found something, there would be an arrest. Say something came up that prevented him from being arrested at the time, the detainment would end and he would be free to go. Once he is arrested and charged with a crime, he can call his lawyer. Hope this makes sense :)
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To explain a few things at the end. When you are detained, you can be placed in handcuffs, but that doesn't mean you are arrested, that means that they think that you could be a potential danger to the officers or yourself. With him being the sheriff, there is some credibility that he could be a danger so they put him in cuffs. They did not arrest him, when he asked, they didn't say he was arrested, but he was making the statements that he is being under arrest because he's in cuffs and he's not free to leave. As a sheriff, he would know that when you are detained, you are not free to leave while they are in the process of investigating, which they were, and they were trying to get him to comply with the warrant. When he said he was under arrest, and they arrested him for obstruction, that was because under the law, obstruction is when you interfere or prevent an officer from doing their job, in this case getting the sheriff to comply with the warrant. By him not unlocking the phone, he committed non-physical/non-violent obstruction, it's slightly different in certain areas, and therefore was an arrestable offense. If the officers had let him speak to an attorney at the end, which whether or not he had an right to do is debatable since it was about him complying with a warrant, the attorney would have just told him to just shut up, do as the warrant demands, and then let them argue it out in court, as that is the only proper place to argue the validity of warrants and the reach of them.
also yes he was obstructing because there’s a warrant for the phones but he want his attorney to go through it first which would possibly take hours or days which is definitely obstructing the law when the police are right in front of you. You cannot do that without a good reason
“He came out with three rifles”
How many hands does this guy have??
2 hands and 2 armpits
This guy is the Roronoa Zoro of Rifles!
@@LynkCableTvHe's got the stock in his mouth and uses his tongue to pull the trigger lol
@@Mega-rx9sr only the one who’s dream is to become the greatest rifleman in the world could pull off such an incredible feat 🫡
That Sheriff is like a 3 yr old who asks "why" repeatedly.
XD I love when people think that "deleting" things from their phone actually does something. Bruh. That's not how technology works
I want people to understand why more force wasn’t used is because 1. The guy is still the sheriff. Because he won’t be fired at that moment in time cops under his rank can still be fired. Being respectful is the only way they can get through it without being fired. Once he was found capable of being detained he’s not capable of firing anybody since he’s under suspicion and because his underlings r still using reasonable force he cannot fire them. The reason y his higher ups won’t show force is because 1. It’s a bad look 2. The officers would be having a bad example shown to them and 3. Body cameras. Basically it boils down to “I’m not being rough because I don’t want to lose my job”
The Sherriff has no control over the local Police Department. Their jobs are not at risk.
I cannot fathom what the plan was supposed to be. He seemed to be trying to get arrested for attorney privileges....but when he got arrested he was confused and angry?
He was being detained so he don't get a right to an attorney. If he was getting arrested at first he would've had the chance of an attorney
29:49 I believe they’re only required to let him speak to the lawyer once he’s already booked, I’m not a hundred percent sure but they’re not required to provide one while they’re still on scene
Not how I wanted New Mexico my home state to get recognized haha, Patt we have good food! Give us another chance 😂
"His wife game me the keys" sus
A SUI arrest. Sheriffing under the influence.
He's law enforcement yet he's so bad at actually hiding crimes
If they weren't cops they would have the phone already... ya if they weren't cops everyone in that room would be in cuffs and detained until further investigation
How did he think that was going to end? What if he just keeps being as belligerent and unhelpful as possible they'll just drop it?
I'd like to know if he would have received a lighter sentence if he had complied from the very start?
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nice video pat!
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How I have been watching cops on duty and then you start
They need to just burn the sheriff's office down and start from scratch at this point. That whole place was nothing but corruption
Woop new Mexico pride yay it's always something good putting out states name in people's minds yayy
idk
By law he has to unlock his phone bc its in the warrent then u can do whatever and make ur call after but u have to do everything the warrent says first
Nice video
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I will never understand why cops need to get a warrant for every little thing when it comes to important investigations. I mean seriously, why do they need a warrant for looking through the phone if they already have a warrant to seize/take the phone? Isn't the whole purpose of said phone seizing warrant supposed to be for taking and looking through the phone? What's the point in not only getting permission to take the phone, but also taking the phone after getting said warrant if you can't look through the phone because you have to get permission to look through said phone?
Because it protects you in the case of a false conviction
The 4th Amendment protects against unreasonable Search and Seizure by the government. The process to determine if a Search and Seizure is reasonable is going to a judge and having them sign off on it by giving a Search Warrant. There are a few other situations that would also allow for Search and Seizure, but that is the primary one.
And there are several reasons you might want to take someone's phone without the intention of looking through it. Taking the phone denies the person access to said phone, so they can't delete anything, they can't reset it to factory, they can't communicate with people very effectively, and maybe that's all the were trying to do at that time.
Did he ever watch kids next door recap or something
Hey Pat, Can you watch the entire assasin's Creed Timeline ?
Cool
ACAB people: No one ever stops corrupt cops!
Body cam footage: Aight, guess I just don't exist.
Cops getting caught countless times shutting off their body camera before committing human rights violations:🗿🗿
Police departments not releasing body camera footage that clearly implicates an officer of committing a crime:🗿🗿🗿