VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 78

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @curtiswfranks
    @curtiswfranks 2 года назад +5872

    This guy was a gold mine. He was around for everything. You NEED to have him back.
    P.S.: Please do Prehistoric Planet and Walking With Dinosaurs.

    • @yuven437
      @yuven437 2 года назад +72

      100% agree with this!

    • @Franshela
      @Franshela 2 года назад +166

      @@sergiokaminotanjo Saying cringe? Cringe

    • @curtiswfranks
      @curtiswfranks 2 года назад +138

      @@sergiokaminotanjo: I enjoy learning from people who have a wealth of experience. This person does. If given the option, why would we forgo such an opportunity?

    • @OptimusMo
      @OptimusMo 2 года назад

      @@sergiokaminotanjo get your trash attitude out of here. The only bad vibes here are coming from you.

    • @dhrunssofast
      @dhrunssofast 2 года назад +4

      He is

  • @TomWDW1
    @TomWDW1 2 года назад +2767

    You did it! You finally found a CG artist who is willing to talk about WHY their shitty vfx were so bad. And as always, it's rarely about the lack of talent - it's about something behind the scenes (lack of time, lack of reference, etc.).
    This was a fantastic video.

    • @AnthonyMcNeil
      @AnthonyMcNeil 2 года назад +106

      Honestly, people with common sense knows that it's lack of time. They did one episode about Endgame and the Iron Man shot was the first shot they got and was the last one they finished. These movies nowadays have such a fast turnaround that they don't have the time to make them look "good". These people who work in the industry are professionals, they don't set out to make bad special effects.

    • @goodjoejoe
      @goodjoejoe 2 года назад +49

      @@AnthonyMcNeil That's pretty much why I don't really overreact when a new Marvel property has some dodgy CG. The pandemic thew everyone's schedule off. It was going to have a ripple effect for many years after the lockdown ended.

    • @TomWDW1
      @TomWDW1 2 года назад +50

      @@goodjoejoe True. My complaint is that rather than these companies making FEWER movies and making them look good, they are so obsessed with churning out as many as they can, that they release dodgy CG.
      It must suck for the CG artists working on these knowing that they could do better.

    • @eronic404
      @eronic404 2 года назад +27

      @@goodjoejoe the only movie that has no excuse in my eyes is Avatar 2, it was made from the bottom up with the CG in mind since 2010. 12 years of planning and even innovation of tech just for the movie itself, means their should be no rushed shots, hopefully...

    • @faedraemberhart5500
      @faedraemberhart5500 2 года назад +1

      @@TomWDW1 Just makes you think what would be possible these days if these experts were given all the time they needed to really fine tune everything before release instead of being mismanaged and forced to make shots "good enough". These people are seriously talented but unfortunately everything is at the mercy of the almighty dollar these days. I too would prefer fewer movies that are better written with better CG but what do I know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @EspacX
    @EspacX 2 года назад +550

    I love Nico’s facepalm when Wren actually said “it’s morphin’ time”

    • @ringtail5021
      @ringtail5021 2 года назад +11

      it's morphin time

    • @at_l
      @at_l 2 года назад +1

      morb

    • @QuixelDio
      @QuixelDio 2 года назад +1

      Its morbin' time

    • @jiji7250
      @jiji7250 Год назад

      morphius is one of the movies of all time

    • @hourglasstv01
      @hourglasstv01 Год назад

      He made me unable to take my eyes off him, every scene was amazing

  • @Born2DoubleUp
    @Born2DoubleUp 2 года назад +3651

    You guys have provided a space where visual effects people are actually VERY excited to visit you. It's like they all know about you and are waiting to get their episode 🤣👍 I love seeing all these older guys get showcased... It's like they are finally getting their credit for all the hard work and they get to come to talk about it for once in a none professional environment.

    • @itsmecaldo
      @itsmecaldo 2 года назад +9

      FR

    • @rogerargueta5769
      @rogerargueta5769 2 года назад +108

      Giving a voice and platform to those in the middle... not behind or in front of the camera.... the middle that blends both together for the final product

    • @saqibanjummasoodi
      @saqibanjummasoodi 2 года назад +2

      Your pfp reminds me of Drake's One Dance

    • @Canislupes7
      @Canislupes7 2 года назад +34

      I would really appreciate it if you would put the guest name in the title or even the description for that matter I tried to look up this guy after watching the video but I couldn't find them anywhere because I couldn't see how his name was spelt

    • @tomatozombie135
      @tomatozombie135 2 года назад +17

      @@Canislupes7 its in the description

  • @Sabertooth217
    @Sabertooth217 2 года назад +1201

    I have always enjoyed these "Special Features" with the industry veterans, and for some reason, this one is by far my favourite. I have no experience with VFX whatsoever, but still i was able to follow what John was saying. I would also like to point out, I felt that, John has a very calming and "approachable" presence.

  • @SoCloseToToast
    @SoCloseToToast 2 года назад +804

    Wow just wow! This guy has influenced me more than I ever thought! He's been around for some of the foundations of VFX and this episode felt even more special for the history this guy brings to the new generation!

    • @Iam_Amankapil
      @Iam_Amankapil 2 года назад

      Who???

    • @KrazzeeKane
      @KrazzeeKane Год назад

      @Aman Kapil are you brain dead my friend? Or just trolling? Because if you truly can't figure out who he is referencing, then you may need a brain replacement lol

    • @hourglasstv01
      @hourglasstv01 Год назад

      He made me unable to take my eyes off him, every scene was amazing

  • @olivercrespo2329
    @olivercrespo2329 2 года назад +495

    Davy Jones is probably the best VFX work ever. 15 years later it looks like it was made today. It’s incredible.

    • @skiddzjust1389
      @skiddzjust1389 2 года назад +41

      because they managed to make it look "real", and you can't make anything look better than real, hence even in 100 years it'll look like "it was made today"

    • @snowdjagha
      @snowdjagha 2 года назад +11

      I consider the T2 special fx to be exactly like that. They still hold up pretty nicely until today

    • @LofusRose
      @LofusRose 2 года назад +22

      It looks FAR BETTER than many many many newly released huge blockbusters.

    • @negative6442
      @negative6442 2 года назад +5

      It looks better than a lot of things made today

    • @gr6e
      @gr6e 2 года назад

      @@LofusRose calm down pixar fan

  • @cheqers_
    @cheqers_ 2 года назад +628

    This veteran is a true storyteller. He mightn't be anywhere near the newest or most complex things but there's a level of lived generational experience and passion in his tonality that the others don't quite have.

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 2 года назад +22

      It's extremely satisfying to hear from someone who was at the cutting edge of that generational technological transition. He's a true pioneer in the literal sense of the word, and his ability to articulate his thoughts and experience is second to none. We must hear more from him.

    • @SpidermanFan92
      @SpidermanFan92 2 года назад +5

      I loved seeing him smile as he talked shop with the next generation.

    • @cheqers_
      @cheqers_ 2 года назад

      Other guests, I should clarify.

  • @messagedeleted1922
    @messagedeleted1922 2 года назад +239

    That T2 wall reversal... The fact it holds up so well in slow motion, and zoomed in, really drives home just how good of a VFX scene it is.

    • @hourglasstv01
      @hourglasstv01 Год назад

      He made me unable to take my eyes off him, every scene was amazing

  • @diogomfreire
    @diogomfreire 2 года назад +630

    John is easily one of the best guest corridor ever had. Brought a very different vibe to the couch, and it was incredible. can't wait for him to participate more.

    • @frampton488
      @frampton488 2 года назад +3

      I could listen to him talk about this forever. His input and commentary is absolutely fascinating.

  • @dublin7
    @dublin7 2 года назад +580

    I kinda loved that you addressed the mummy returns bad CGI and followed it up immediately with potentially the greatest cgi character ever created. As in you made sure that while he was being crapped on for that scorpion King shot, it was equally as important to show that this man is capable of ingenious levels of special effects 👏.

    • @KenSahaja
      @KenSahaja 2 года назад +19

      And that most vfx artists acknowledge the flaws in their works enough to learn from that to progress.

  • @Nakkattack.
    @Nakkattack. 2 года назад +402

    This was the best episode in ages. Having guests who talk about the indirect decisions which end up effecting the final VFX (like the stop motion hires for Jurassic Park and the morph timing on T2) is so interesting and speaks to the deeper artistry and ingenuity of visual effects artists

    • @RyanConnell5150
      @RyanConnell5150 2 года назад +3

      15:57 those skeleton T-Rex walking an skinned T-Rex walking animations were created secretly by ILM artist Steve "Spaz" Williams against the wishes of his superiors to see if he could do it. And when he proved that it could be done and look convincing THAT'S when the filmmakers decided to use CGI instead of stop motion. There's a show on Netflix called The Movies That Made Us, Season 2 Episode 3 is all about Jurassic Park. That's where I learned about Spaz.

  • @el_mal_de_ojo
    @el_mal_de_ojo 2 года назад +578

    The Davy Jones VFX are outrageously good. Looks incredible even 16 years later, I see those shots and if I didn't know any better I'd think they were from today.

    • @Scuzzlebutt142
      @Scuzzlebutt142 2 года назад +9

      Good VFX, of any kind, knows how to use work within it's limitations to make it look good. Looking at Star Wars: A New Hope, there's this great shot of a Y-Wing getting a nacelle blown off and crashing. I thought it was CGI from 1997, but it's from the original footage, still looks great.
      The Dinos from Jurassic Park, 30 years ago, still looks great, as they knew how to get it to work in the situations where they used it, and then got the rest of the way with the Actors and music, the shot where you first see a Brachiosaurus in full still works great.

    • @wmichaelbooth
      @wmichaelbooth 2 года назад +12

      This is why the original releases of the Star Wars trilogy look better than the 90s remasters. In the OT they were pushing their limitation but were working with the knowledge of how to make it look good. By comparison the remasters look like Lucas just decided he do anything because it was CGI, but it's not nearly advanced enough to actually pull it off. Like all bad CGI, the remasters look worse with every passing year.

    • @szeltovivarsydroxan9944
      @szeltovivarsydroxan9944 2 года назад +4

      Back in 2007 I was convinced it was mostly practical. That's how amazing the effects were and still are.

    • @Rrusso92
      @Rrusso92 2 года назад +1

      That makes me wonder if it would still look as good if it were made today. I’m assuming yes because of the attention to detail, and if you look at characters like Thanos you can see that if you don’t have time or budget really limiting you, you can make an almost photorealistic character.

    • @newbie4789
      @newbie4789 2 года назад +5

      @@Scuzzlebutt142 you show Jurassic park to a kid now and they will completely believe it's real.

  • @mariovonline
    @mariovonline 2 года назад +457

    What a class act: the way he owned his own shortcomings in the past. A true professional, a true teacher from whom so many people (and future professionals) could learn.

    • @massetozacarias5693
      @massetozacarias5693 2 года назад

      That's what VFX Supervisors do, mine is like Hades from Disney's Hercules

  • @mmersiv
    @mmersiv 2 года назад +58

    Had the honor to take classes with John Berton! He is the coolest and most sincere person! Amazing seeing him on this!

    • @Quark.Lepton
      @Quark.Lepton 2 года назад +3

      100% Adios Amigopadres! 🤣😂

  • @Rubiecat
    @Rubiecat 2 года назад +533

    I think this man might be the most incredible guest you guys have had so far, the insights he shared are crazy I learned so much just in 20 minutes

    • @altostreeter
      @altostreeter 2 года назад +8

      Yeah, seriously. This might be the richest episode I've seen of them.

  • @akhil__dev
    @akhil__dev 2 года назад +346

    Never realised how good Davy Jones' animation was. Probably because I never felt like it was unreal.
    And this person one of the best guest I've ever seen. He's seen the evolution of CGI up close. He explains everything so well.

    • @Ewong251
      @Ewong251 2 года назад +16

      Goes back to the fact that great visual effects are the ones that you don't notice.

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 2 года назад +11

      I rewatched the pirates movies last year and i was astonished that these effects look as if they had been done yesterday

    • @enriquedossantos3283
      @enriquedossantos3283 2 года назад +1

      @@LuisSierra42 yep some of the best ever, better than most modern movies, i read somewhere that studios dont like "perfect" effects, cause effects are expensive and if they are perfect no one notices they are effects, so all that money is lost, so is better to do cheaper more "noticeable" effects so people would go "wow look at the great effects" (matrix, transformers, comes to mind) they save money and get the wow factor.

  • @chrs-wltrs
    @chrs-wltrs 2 года назад +46

    14:30 God, Davy Jones is still so damn good, after all these years. Major kudos to all the VFX artists that worked on him, but I also think that Bill Nighy's performance helps a lot.

  • @kepano
    @kepano 2 года назад +815

    Please keep bringing on these legends, the folks who really got their hands dirty making all these amazing films. I love John’s reflections on what he learned with each picture, and how that helped inform the next one. It gives so much more weight to successes when we can hear about the challenges.

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie 2 года назад +10

      They need to get Dennis Muran on the couch...

    • @jamespruitt4756
      @jamespruitt4756 2 года назад

      @@Backroad_Junkie oh 110% !

    • @MarcHendry
      @MarcHendry 2 года назад

      get em on the podcast too please

    • @rano12321
      @rano12321 Месяц назад +1

      is that the obsidian guy?

  • @andrewnicon
    @andrewnicon 2 года назад +1242

    This guy is a really great speaker, his insight and the way he explains his thought processes are just fascinating. Awesome video.

    • @strangernine
      @strangernine 2 года назад +14

      @@vvvvgggg why you hating lol i’d be acting like that too if i had someone i looked up to talking about their work with me. go outside and get a life kid

    • @Promitheos
      @Promitheos 2 года назад +2

      so good at explaining and teaching

    • @pilotman012
      @pilotman012 2 года назад +4

      Agreed! I was waiting for him to mention he also plays an alien in Men in Black 2, post office scene

    • @winterlock1576
      @winterlock1576 2 года назад +5

      I've been watching corridor long enough (since around VGHS came out) to know that this is pretty much what Wren is like all the time. He is a very enthusiastic and animated person!

    • @tiobetio9501
      @tiobetio9501 2 года назад

      One of the best guests they've had so far.

  • @JayHiller13
    @JayHiller13 2 года назад +25

    John Berton was one of my favorite college professors! He really does love talking about the work that he has done to try to inspire the next generation. I've heard these same nuggets of information over and over again from him so it's surreal seeing him on the couch. I always appreciated his old school approach and sense of wonder and excitement for the craft. I'm so happy you were able to give him a platform to help him share his expertise with such a wide audience!

    • @sergeantbigmac
      @sergeantbigmac Год назад +1

      He seems to be able to talk about his work not in a gloating or promoting sortve way, but rather to show whats possible and inspire to reach higher. Its a fine line but some professors especially in the creative fields definitely cross it.

  • @KazikoWhite
    @KazikoWhite 2 года назад +167

    It would be interesting to have an episode purely on CGI humans and how that's evolved over the years. What technology was invented for which film etc.

    • @cailevans728
      @cailevans728 2 года назад +3

      Yes! This would be a good wren solo too especially as a companion to his recent "why caustic is a difficult sim" vid

  • @SirPembertonS.Crevalius
    @SirPembertonS.Crevalius 2 года назад +1188

    Man, to go from the Scorpion King to Davy Jones is one hell of a VFX redemption arc.

    • @dontreadmyprofilepicture960
      @dontreadmyprofilepicture960 2 года назад +2

      Don't read my name!!!!

    • @Ripper346.
      @Ripper346. 2 года назад +70

      But... There isn't actually something to redeem from the scorpion king considered what elements they had to work with. Expecting a very good CGI was like expecting to win the F1 championship with a bicycle

    • @cl-l_m5022
      @cl-l_m5022 2 года назад +8

      I will read your name!!!!

    • @TheBigTater08
      @TheBigTater08 2 года назад +3

      Not even mentioning t2 in there

    • @cl-l_m5022
      @cl-l_m5022 2 года назад +2

      I will effin read your name!!!

  • @MarcAdamsDev
    @MarcAdamsDev 2 года назад +27

    I remember T2 as being completely mind blowing in the theater. We talked about it forever. Absolutely classic.

    • @handdrawnbink
      @handdrawnbink 2 года назад +4

      It's one of the only movies that still captures that "how did they do that?" factor. Absolute cinematic perfection contained in every frame of that film

  • @MultiSkiptracer
    @MultiSkiptracer 2 года назад +303

    78 episodes in and these are still offering amazing insights into the industry with wonderfully qualified special guests that really contribute to the discussion. Great stuff.

    • @smokenova
      @smokenova 2 года назад +2

      Thats 78 of just CGI. I love the entire CGI, Animation & Stuntmen series.

  • @JaredPlotts
    @JaredPlotts 2 года назад +139

    As an eight year old, seeing Willow, and that morph shot, fundamentally altered the course of my life.
    No effect you've seen today has blown your mind open the way that Willow effect did back in the day.
    Truly groundbreaking stuff and in the pantheon of vfx history.
    Thanks so much guys for doing these films in particular.

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia 2 года назад +3

      I think i was around 8 when i first saw Willow back in the 90s... loved the movie (although i never really knew many friends who watched it). Im hoping the new Willow series has that magical feeling that the movie once had

    • @thestarseeker8196
      @thestarseeker8196 2 года назад

      That shot is still up there with the best morphing I’ve ever ever seen, Raziel from 🐢 to 🐅 to 👵🏻 is just *clean*

  • @mindbomb2000
    @mindbomb2000 2 года назад +3

    John Berton Jr. is such an amazing pioneer, and what a class act. He never excused the work, but you gave him an opportunity to explain the difficulties of what they had to work with at the time. So fascinating.

  • @Vixikats
    @Vixikats 2 года назад +118

    This series has almost become a really awesome way of interviewing heroes and makers in the film industry and I'm all here for it. What started out as just watching a bunch of CGI clips and reacting to them has become this very awesome series where some really amazing people in the industry gets to teach us little nuggets of wisdom and I'm here for 100 more episodes.

    • @ChronoMune
      @ChronoMune 2 года назад +1

      Sorry you won’t make it for 101 man 😔

  • @sapphyrus
    @sapphyrus 2 года назад +154

    My thanks to John for all his great work, especially on T2. Blew my mind back then as a kid and still adore it today. Truly one of the highlights of my life experience. I also saw Mummy 2 back then and I gotta say expectations were much different back then and it didn't even come across as lackluster until much later when we began to see high quality human faces. We were playing Half-Life 1 and literally saw blocks of cube as human heads on a daily basis. You can only measure based over previous best. The ceiling wasn't high.

    • @valaramchaudhary3216
      @valaramchaudhary3216 2 года назад +10

      My first reaction of Mummy scene was : 'This looks so real'. 🤣 when you go from ps2 graphics to this.

    • @TheMetroidblade
      @TheMetroidblade 2 года назад +1

      Yeah it wasn’t until years later rewatching that I was like oh no that’s what that looks like? I was still playing game boy and ff7 and stuff. It didn’t look bad back then

  • @anthonymcgrath
    @anthonymcgrath 2 года назад +1

    omfg how have i only just seen this and the other John Berton Jr. video - you lucky SOB's getting to meet this absolute legend!!!
    this was fantastic esp to hear him talk about the T1000 morphing front-to-back shot - that and walking through the jail bars are still some of the greatest film moments ever - pure brilliance

  • @mikekohary1075
    @mikekohary1075 2 года назад +56

    He's a good sport about the Scorpion King. :-) And hey, I hope these guys realize (and you guys too), people who know better aren't criticizing them directly. It's all art. Sometimes art works, and sometimes it doesn't. But not trying at all is the biggest sin, and I appreciate that these guys are always trying, whether it works or not. Great episode!

  • @willowjohnson8553
    @willowjohnson8553 2 года назад +48

    Him having worked on JUST T2 would have been mindblowing, but then John just kept!!!!!! bringing up more BENCHMARK projects!!! Was losing my mind this entire episode, thanks boys

  • @nicolelechman1521
    @nicolelechman1521 2 года назад +23

    The guy in the middle just seems like such a down to earth, nice human being.

  • @nothingman7163
    @nothingman7163 2 года назад +70

    Davy Jones in my opinion is the single greatest marrying of animation / VFX and an actors portrayal / performance working together to create a believable character. EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of the character design from posture, to stance, to iris depth / emotion, and down to every individual tentacle on his face is animated to match the performance of the actor. There is 0 disconnect between the actors performance and portrayed emotion with the physical appearance and minute details / micro expressions. Truthfully something that even pure live action or pure animation couldn’t have accomplished. This is what VFX are meant to be.

    • @sVieira151
      @sVieira151 2 года назад +2

      Gollum walked so Davy Jones could run, and ever since then people have been trying to catch up.

  • @ysgramorssoupspoon2261
    @ysgramorssoupspoon2261 2 года назад +77

    The thing about Davy Jones is that he doesn't feel like CGI while watching the movie and not concentarating on details you just kinda assume that they found a tentacly pirate somewhere and filmed him.

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia 2 года назад +3

      they made the tentacles feel natural, so it wasnt a distraction... if the cgi was bad or jenky, everyone would of deff crapped on it. Sometimes the best CGI are the ones that dont take your attention from the scene

  • @Agin56
    @Agin56 2 года назад +5

    This is awesome! My dad and John grew up together and were best friends throughout their years together in school. Growing up my dad and I would always watch different movies that John was involved in and wait to see his name in the credits. This was always a big moment for my dad. Thank you for interviewing one of the original pioneers of visual effects. More John!!

  • @Carterficial
    @Carterficial 2 года назад +75

    You guys should try to get John Gaeta on here. He was VFX supervisor on The Matrix trilogy. I'd love a VFX dissection of those movies from someone who worked on them.

  • @KennethDavis
    @KennethDavis 2 года назад +34

    This guy is the coolest ever! Seriously most down to earth best attitude of anyone in the industry. Definitely bring him back if you can 🙏💯🎶

  • @brandonthompson13
    @brandonthompson13 2 года назад +7

    Bring John Berton Jr. back, please!!! I agree, he is a gold mine on VFX and made this episode a joy to watch.

  • @Emariess
    @Emariess 2 года назад +30

    Such a cool guy. You can tell a true seasoned professional when they can shrug off criticism as part of the job, call it a learning experience and not take it as a personal attack. A lot of creatives can’t do that. Love how he then proceeded to flex and show off the Pirates work 👏🏻👌🏼

  • @DiscipleshipSam
    @DiscipleshipSam 2 года назад +37

    The moment I started watching this I thought: “That is the actor from the Men in Black Mailroom scene!” to then find out that he was but so much more known in the VFX world.

    • @agentsmith413
      @agentsmith413 2 года назад +3

      i thought the same exact thing.

  • @shaymas87
    @shaymas87 2 года назад +3

    When someone who is truly passionate about a topic and is allowed to talk freely about what they love it's very hard not to get engrossed in what they are saying regardless of your own personal level of knowledge . Thanks Corridor Crew for yet again introducing us to the genius behind the entertainment.

  • @jdblick1002
    @jdblick1002 2 года назад +20

    Easily the best guest ever. So down to earth and willing to share his vast knowledge from a long career creating some landmark effects in the industry, you could tell they felt honored to have him on the show. I hope he returns on many future eps.

  • @ItsRyanUnicomb
    @ItsRyanUnicomb 2 года назад +34

    Literally the best episode ever. Please have him back. This was extraordinary. So proud of y’all

  • @edsfoxart
    @edsfoxart 2 года назад +8

    One of the best shows you guys put together! You have to have John back in the show again.. the way he shares his vision and knowledge reminds me of the old good university professors.. :)

  • @tonypang83
    @tonypang83 2 года назад +46

    Hope they do more of these. Special guests who feel comfortable talking about the "bad VFX" and giving everyone an insight into why they ended up as they did. Of course, getting the ones who were directly part of the amazing VFX from cinema history is also good 🤣

    • @EthanRom
      @EthanRom 2 года назад

      I mean honestly most of the "bad vfx" shots out there will all have similar stories. Actor broke ankle and can't shoot. Ran out of time and etc.

  • @docknives3792
    @docknives3792 2 года назад +66

    The displacement effect on The Abyss is still shocking to learn about even after all these years. It's a neat trick that is very accessible in today's world of technology that is still overlooked to some degree. I feel like that bit of wisdom was priceless for visual effects artists old and new.

  • @thisonecrazykid
    @thisonecrazykid 2 года назад +1

    The way John spoke about each shot and his fellow artists that helped him for every piece of work, this is definitely a man thats passionate about his work and takes inspiration and awe from his fellow artists, I hope he continues to do what he loves

  • @krookedtease
    @krookedtease 2 года назад +51

    The animation of Davis Jones was incredible.. and to this day stands the test of time for good CG. I love the fact that the dinosaur puppets were used as skeleton reference, would love to see ye guys react to more puppeteering, maybe the movie The Labyrinth would be an interesting watch

  • @GeneralOsik
    @GeneralOsik 2 года назад +35

    This was one of the best episodes in a while! I loved hearing John talk about Phil Tippett. You should try to get Phil on the show! He's done so many amazing things.

    • @ericmlevy
      @ericmlevy 2 года назад

      Phil was just on WTF with Marc Maron. It’s not super technical, it’s a good big picture interview. He does cover the Jurassic Park episode where he gets CG’ed out of a job.

    • @jmalmsten
      @jmalmsten 2 года назад +1

      As Mad God is finally released, I think it would be awesome to have him come on here and talk not just about that forever project but also Starship Troopers 1 and 2, and his work on the Robocop films. And much more like Go-Motion and stuff like that.

  • @BluntBrothersProductions
    @BluntBrothersProductions 2 года назад +11

    Two Suggestions for a reaction:
    The first would be the Adventure of a Lifetime Music video by Coldplay.
    The other would be a certain shot from Top Gun Maverick. I know a lot of the shot in that movie were practical (which is an extreme understatement), but there’s one particular shot of a helicopter getting shot down out of the sky that looks PRETTY SWEET for the 3 seconds you could see it on screen…. Anyways just a couple ideas, since I imagine you guys said you are running out of things to react to.

  • @demzre
    @demzre 2 года назад +131

    I love these interviews with SFX and CGI artists, who paved the way to where we are today. So interesting.

  • @okashi10
    @okashi10 2 года назад +131

    One of my best friends was responsible for compositing the Davy Jones shot that they always bring up -- especially the smoke part. Everytime they mention it I'm like
    (✨️👄✨️)

    • @alfredogonzalez9420
      @alfredogonzalez9420 2 года назад +10

      that smoke thing is one of the best details ever! love it so much every time I see it, does he know how much we love him for his work?

    • @okashi10
      @okashi10 2 года назад +5

      @@alfredogonzalez9420 Yes, I send him the videos whenever it's mentioned 😊

    • @alfredogonzalez9420
      @alfredogonzalez9420 2 года назад +4

      @@okashi10 yeii good to know, we must protect him at all cost

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia 2 года назад +3

      @@okashi10 i wish i knew of the people who worked on vfx shots more, Movies just get pumped out and vfx ppl are tirelessly working their butts off, they are one of the most underappreciated ppl in the industry i feel

    • @silverblue73
      @silverblue73 2 года назад

      @@DeRockMedia actors get all the fame and recognition while most often putting in the least effort

  • @erictheid
    @erictheid 2 года назад +9

    I’d love for you guys to do an entire episode about Terminator 2. I feel like there are so many different bits that even without the ones you’ve already covered (the morph flip, the T-1000 slipping thru the bars, etc), you’d have plenty to talk about.

  • @Wazupeth
    @Wazupeth 2 года назад +6

    Maan what a legend. One of the OGs. Guys like him paved the vfx way and created tools for next generations. Please bring him and other pioneers as often as possible. Great watch as always

  • @achdeuzo87
    @achdeuzo87 2 года назад +48

    during the whole episode I was struck by the fact that his face looks familiar.
    the feeling triggers a MIB memory, i wonder if he modeled an alien after himself.
    anyway, great episode as usual!

    • @LorcanH
      @LorcanH 2 года назад +12

      guy in the back of the post office in men in black 2 perhaps?

    • @bartoscar
      @bartoscar 2 года назад +20

      He has a cameo as one of the post office aliens in MIB II

    • @JayYoung559
      @JayYoung559 2 года назад +9

      Specifically, hes the alien in the mail room that splits in half

    • @TCO_404
      @TCO_404 2 года назад

      I had the same thing. He looks so familiar. Haven't seen MiB2 so that isn't it either.

    • @carsbykris
      @carsbykris 2 года назад

      Yes! Same here! He's the guy that splits in two in the back room of the post office!

  • @TheSuperGuitarGuy
    @TheSuperGuitarGuy 2 года назад +58

    Davey Jones is just about the most perfect cgi character I've ever seen.

    • @hourglasstv01
      @hourglasstv01 Год назад

      He made me unable to take my eyes off him, every scene was amazing

  • @potawatadingdong
    @potawatadingdong 2 года назад +32

    This guy is amazing and clearly a fan of the show. Such a chill and knowledgeable dude.

  • @2teepeepictures382
    @2teepeepictures382 2 года назад +14

    I just want to say how freaking cool it is to see a man who has been on top of the VFX world for most of his life but yet still just as giddy about VFX as I am Who is just learning. I really feel like I relate to this guy. Especially what he said about complexity versus spectacle.

  • @vippsmillennial6336
    @vippsmillennial6336 2 года назад +62

    Fun fact: The guest of this show played the role of an alien in Men in Black 2, and is one the aliens disguised as a postal-worker where K worked.

    • @rockingkvs
      @rockingkvs 2 года назад +12

      I knew his face looked familiar from some movie.

    • @adamplace1414
      @adamplace1414 2 года назад +7

      Great catch! And now that he's got a new episode they actually showed it and told the story!

    • @ariannasilva4462
      @ariannasilva4462 2 года назад

      I loved the aliens in MIB. They all feel so real because of how kooky they look. MIB design team made an important decision to blend CGI with practical makeup. The aliens in MIB that are “avatar-like” are done practically. Because making an alien that has humanish features that are skewed is hard in CGI. In opposite they made super not real not human aliens CGI because we have no basis.
      Plus the aliens are SOOO creative and unique. It makes them pop even more.

    • @jooei2810
      @jooei2810 Год назад

      Yeah, actually visualised the scene in my mind while reading this and it sure is him.

  • @jelof21
    @jelof21 2 года назад +39

    OG creators like John, Adam Savage, and Nick's dad and the likes are so refreshing, and i can spend hours listening to them talk about their experiences and the love for their craft, truly something else

  • @Derl30
    @Derl30 2 года назад +9

    This is the best guest they have had on VFX React. Absolutely fantastic gentleman.

  • @slumbynature4557
    @slumbynature4557 2 года назад +8

    One of the things that has always impressed me was how well they did Robert Patrick. He has a very unique shape to his ears that I would imagine would be hard to render due to them coming out and up to a point, but they morphed it perfectly just like his fingers. I always wondered if that was something they took into account at the time.

    • @KrazzeeKane
      @KrazzeeKane Год назад

      I guarantee you there was at least one FX Artist working on T2 who was working on Robert Patrick's ears and specifically said "Fuck this guys ears" at some point after having to manually account for them for the 27th time lol

  • @instxnt
    @instxnt 2 года назад +34

    The VFX of Davy Jones will never cease to amaze me....

  • @instxnt
    @instxnt 2 года назад +4

    You can tell just how excited John is to talk about these scenes and his energy is so infectious throughout

  • @joshrubak9110
    @joshrubak9110 2 года назад +2

    I LOVED how he walked through the improvements from specific movie to specific movie.

  • @Jonathan-mf3qz
    @Jonathan-mf3qz 2 года назад +27

    I'd love to hear you guys do a vid on the VFX industry and how artists are getting overworked by studios all the time

    • @JL-ob3ry
      @JL-ob3ry 2 года назад +3

      Yeah, several artists have come out saying Marvel projects suck because they set unrealistic deadlines and expect perfect results

    • @Biring1
      @Biring1 2 года назад

      They would never step on the toes of the mouse

    • @Jonathan-mf3qz
      @Jonathan-mf3qz 2 года назад

      @@Biring1 Yes, they have people who've worked on Disney shows and often praise their work (rightfully so) but there's a lot of talk about artists unions and working hours which are ridiculous which I'd really like to hear from their point of view from considering that they are VFX artists but have essentially created their own studio and have established their own company culture.

  • @Luka2000_
    @Luka2000_ 2 года назад +206

    After 31 years terminator 2 still has incredible visuals that have stood the test of time and it's amazing how they did it

    • @dontreadmyprofilepicture960
      @dontreadmyprofilepicture960 2 года назад

      Don't read my name....

    • @Vixyzsisgoated
      @Vixyzsisgoated 2 года назад +1

      @@dontreadmyprofilepicture960 i wont then

    • @Biring1
      @Biring1 2 года назад +1

      They should do more scenes from it, especially since it's such a landmark

  • @thechad4485
    @thechad4485 2 года назад +3

    Immediately recognized him, not as a special effects artist, but as the upper torso alien from the mail room in Men In Black II. Cool to know it was a cameo for the VFX artist. Makes me wonder if the other guys in the room were also artists who worked on the film!

  • @WokeUpScreaming
    @WokeUpScreaming 2 года назад +29

    Every time I've watched T2 with my brother, that shot where he reverses himself always gets a laugh out of us! Such an amazing shot and serves the story in such a great way!

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia 2 года назад +1

      thats always the best part of the fight imo

  • @adamplace1414
    @adamplace1414 2 года назад +17

    You guys get the BEST guests. John was incredibly insightful, and has some great maxims that guide his creativity. This might be one of my new favorites.
    And let me say, when Wren and Niko's heads exploded, mine did too. That was a great way of distilling the essence of Vfx down to a few sentences, but in a way I'd never thought of before.

  • @nicholashockings9584
    @nicholashockings9584 2 года назад

    This video with John was my favourite of all the experts and veterans you’ve gotten in. He was so eloquent, insightful and down to earth. Please get him back in the future.

  • @DerpyDude777
    @DerpyDude777 2 года назад +8

    Davy Jones will always and forever be one of if not, the best CGI character I've ever seen. For 2006 and them working on it for who knows how long before? That is incredible! Props to him and his team on that feat!

  • @insanebehavior2478
    @insanebehavior2478 2 года назад +4

    Hey John Berton Jr. You and the old team at ILM is the direct reason I have had a 21 year; - and going, career in sound design. Thank you for the inspiration!! :)

  • @benthebomber1248
    @benthebomber1248 2 года назад +1

    That has to be the best episode of Vfx Artists yet John was a treasure trove of knowledge and the way he didn’t even make excuses for shots and how he captured my attention he absolutely needs to return

  • @gevillgar
    @gevillgar 2 года назад +396

    C'mon man, that "It's morphing time" joke was right there, no way Wren could miss it. I actually would have complained if he hadn't said it. XD

    • @HelloTardis
      @HelloTardis 2 года назад +11

      Yeah but….you spent so much time wondering if Wren COULD make a Morphing Time Joke….but you never stopped to ask yourself, if Wren SHOULD make a Morphing Time Joke…
      Must go faster, must go faster, The fly, goldblum.

    • @patrickjorda5523
      @patrickjorda5523 2 года назад

      He's too old for that...

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger 2 года назад +1

      @Don't read profile photo Sod off.

    • @DaviAreias
      @DaviAreias 2 года назад +1

      We all know he actually meant “it’s morbin time”

    • @sapphyrus
      @sapphyrus 2 года назад +1

      I loved the part when John morbed all over them.

  • @jeffpines
    @jeffpines 2 года назад +15

    Corridor crew, i just wana say I freaking love this series. Like an unhealthy love possibly. I’m a digital member but I still wait til Saturday to watch the extended edition. I look forward to it every week and don’t want it to b over too soon.

    • @adamplace1414
      @adamplace1414 2 года назад +2

      Me too man. And this extended edition seemed *especially* extended. And I also watch on here just to make sure the algorithm counts my view and like.

    • @jeffpines
      @jeffpines 2 года назад

      @@adamplace1414 yup me too

  • @deadBeat-88
    @deadBeat-88 2 года назад +3

    I'd be interested to see a reaction video with Makeup Artists coming in to discuss good use of make up, prosthetics etc. Don't know how practical that'd be, but it'd be interesting to have a guest come in and breakdown scenes they've worked on that they found hard, or have regrets over.
    Love the show guys, keep up the good work!

  • @adriancabrera8843
    @adriancabrera8843 2 года назад +112

    Please! You Guys need to seriously consider doing a Star Trek episode!! You have multiple generations of tv and movies to choose from spanning any and all forms of sfx! I highly recommend doing the DS9 episode “Trials & Tribble-ations” where the modern crew go back in time to the OG series and they are actually seamlessly inserted into an old 60’s episode!

    • @ElectricEntertainmnt
      @ElectricEntertainmnt 2 года назад +2

      Seconded! I’d love to see that episode

    • @adamplace1414
      @adamplace1414 2 года назад +2

      Really good choice. And yes, a trek themed episode is long overdue. They could also look at the season finale of Strange New Worlds and compare the original series' episode Balance of Terror. Explain how the original episode created their effects practically, and how they went about recreating it like SNW did.

    • @danjquiroz
      @danjquiroz 2 года назад +1

      YES! Compare TOS with Strange New Worlds. The new show is AWESOME!

    • @KyleJWest-vn9kn
      @KyleJWest-vn9kn 2 года назад +1

      Yes! Excellent idea. Please do Star Trek!

    • @maxjenkinson9870
      @maxjenkinson9870 2 года назад

      Yesss that episode is brilliant

  • @mattsgrungy
    @mattsgrungy 2 года назад +5

    What an awesome guest, you've gotta get him back for another episode. It was great that he was willing to talk about the bad VFX shots and how they ended up the way they did, not everyone would be willing to do that.

  • @4.0.4
    @4.0.4 2 года назад +2

    I was binge watching Pirates of the Caribbean for the first time during the AH v. JD trial and Davy Jones was one of the few times ever I thought, "wow, the CGI here is incredible". So much emotion.

  • @jmoralesh
    @jmoralesh 2 года назад +10

    I'm pretty amazed with the amount of insight and perspective that this show brings around the intricacies and history of VFX, and in a very down to the earth way, without sacrificing technicalities and thoughts around the artistic values of the discipline. Congratulations, big fan here 🙌🏼

  • @mrKozmoz
    @mrKozmoz 2 года назад +17

    I remember seeing that John Berton in one of those 90s Behind the Magic type of shows, and between those shows, people like John, and CG films, got me wanting to be a 3D artist, it's been hell of a journey, but I am sort of doing what I set out to due thanks in part to OG wizards.

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia 2 года назад

      right on man, I was very artistic growing up and wanted to get into 3D art type of work, but life had other plans for me, kill those goals my guy!

  • @jippy33
    @jippy33 2 года назад

    This is the best thing about Corridor Crew, they give silent heroes like this guy a place to shine and get the credit they so deserve.

  • @CNC-Time-Lapse
    @CNC-Time-Lapse 2 года назад +7

    Could you guys somehow get Phil Tippett and Dennis Muren on the couch? That would be the most epic episode ever... would have to be a 2 hour episode.

  • @PhantomFilmAustralia
    @PhantomFilmAustralia 2 года назад +37

    You have Gods of Visual Effects on your show. Every guest has blown our minds at one time or another.

    • @FakeJesseJuarez
      @FakeJesseJuarez 2 года назад

      And a lot of them bring up things from other episodes so they definitely watch or did some research on the channel before visiting.

  • @Turok1134
    @Turok1134 2 года назад

    I feel like you guys are doing a legit great job of helping people find the magic in visual effects again. It's heartening to see people discuss it enthusiastically rather than cynically.

  • @JesseWinford69
    @JesseWinford69 2 года назад +8

    Let's just take a moment to understand just how big and amazing corridor has become. They aren't doing major Hollywood movies but look at all the people they have come through to give knowledge. Who recognize Sam, Nikko, and the rest of the team for what they do. Not only are they good at it but they are helping the next generation to learn by all these very experienced film makers. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they got a job to do scene in a major Hollywood movie soon. Not to mention they have pretty much become a school for special effects. To all the people who have worked for them and ones who watch to learn from them. I'm excited to see them keep growing and expanding.

    • @Durwood71
      @Durwood71 2 года назад

      Corridor found an unexploited niche, which is smart business. Everybody wants to talk to the actors and directors, but when was the last time you saw an effects artist or stuntman on a talk show? Corridor is able to attract these big but unknown names because they have zero competition.

  • @stevencasteelassistantgene5263
    @stevencasteelassistantgene5263 2 года назад +19

    You guys are documenting iconic history that will be enjoyed by viewers hundreds of years into the future. Thank you!

    • @bdabbin
      @bdabbin 2 года назад +3

      Seriously. This is important knowledge from experts to pass down to the next generation, and the boys are ensuring that knowledge is not lost.

  • @kevinbair6310
    @kevinbair6310 Год назад

    Could listen to this man all day. John Berton Jr is a true gentleman...a person with pure passion is one who is willing to share it.

  • @eddiephoenix9698
    @eddiephoenix9698 2 года назад +7

    5:04 i always loved this shot, but now i am even more amazed, how much thought went into it and how well it was done!

  • @davidkomai
    @davidkomai 2 года назад +8

    The Man. The Myth. The Legend. What I would give to learn from John. This was a great episode.

    • @chikato7106
      @chikato7106 2 года назад

      Steve The Spaz William is the guy that was secretly working on the 3D demo behind everyone's back.

    • @jorgemacias2538
      @jorgemacias2538 2 года назад +1

      Hey there! I normally don’t comment on things but I saw this comment and just had to add to this. He’s my current VFX Supervisor on a show at a certain company. I talk/joke with him everyday, and I learn so so much. Such a great guy, had me smiling from ear to ear watching him on screen. Glad to know he resonates the same with the rest of the world 🙌🏼

  • @Roblessed722
    @Roblessed722 2 года назад +1

    I love the bit with the evolution of stop motion into CGI. Really awesome they were able to acknowledge the strengths of both forms.

  • @logikure7306
    @logikure7306 2 года назад +35

    Davy Jones will always be one of the best CGI characters ever made.

  • @duckworth-sc2
    @duckworth-sc2 2 года назад +17

    i just watched “call of the wild” with harrison ford and the cg dogs sent my brain to vfx react. cg animals are a topic you guys have touched on frequently, but i think it would make for a fun episode if you did a whole stack of cgi animals scenes/films. G-force, garfield, scoobydoo (live action), charlottes web, are some i can think of. im not a movie guru but google is! could be fun

  • @Phantoon
    @Phantoon 2 года назад +1

    This is my favourite episode in ages. A fantastic and insightful guest who's been doing it from the start.

  • @SylviaCrisp
    @SylviaCrisp 2 года назад +40

    This was fantastic! I found a couple shots from Ms. Marvel, the new marvel show on Disney Plus with a couple janky shots. In most scenes with Kamala Kahn (the main character) that use cgi platforms and parkour across those, the cgi render of Kamala used tends to be a little bit more rubbery than normal human movement. In Episode 2: Crushed, the scene from 7:49 - 8:03, this is shown very prominently, and the rubbery movement also shows up here. The same rubbery movement also shows up in Episode 6: No Normal, from 10:57 - 11:10, but the transition from the CG double to the live shot of her back works fantastically! I'd love to see this breakdown on one of these videos in the future!

    • @nathanielwise508
      @nathanielwise508 2 года назад

      second this! its always interesting to note on shows where there are a lot of effects to get done on a smaller (by mcu standards lol) budget where the time and money gets concentrated and where some corners are cut to put more resources into the other shots

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia 2 года назад

      how was the show? its the first MCU show i hadnt started yet despite me seeing everything they put out.

    • @SylviaCrisp
      @SylviaCrisp 2 года назад

      @@DeRockMedia It's actually pretty good :3 The creativity on display is phenomenal, even if it really isn't a "marvel" kind of marvel tv show

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia 2 года назад

      @@SylviaCrisp ya, i feel bad cuz i had 0 interest in the show, but i know Marvel will get me invested, i think thats why a big name from the movies help garner more attention (Banner for She-Hulk as example). Im going to have to binge it one of these weekends.

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 2 года назад

      I mean, it IS a TV show not a full budget film, but still interesting to analyse

  • @suryanova6231
    @suryanova6231 2 года назад +15

    He really likes to explain stuff passionately and he is a great guy

  • @I-0-0-I
    @I-0-0-I 2 года назад

    I’ve only watched 40(+-10) of your vids, but this is by far my favorite. The “worst shot ever” thing is special, and gloriously magnanimous.
    But, this feels like the deepest I’ve seen into the industry/process as an outsider.

  • @seanhutt4621
    @seanhutt4621 2 года назад +4

    The direction that the show has organically grown into going from analyzing suggested VFX shots to actually getting these legends in the field to come sit down in a safe place and talk about their life's work
    it's truly amazing hands down this is my favorite content on all of RUclips and I can't wait for more