I Bought A Drone For Filming MTB | GMBN Vlogs
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2022
- In today's Vlog, Neil Donoghue recently got his hands on a small drone and is out & about testing the new setup to get some cool FPV flying shots! As Neil gets to grip with his new flying setup, he experiments with the Active Tracking that allows for epic self-filming videos & autonomous flying!
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Do you own a Drone!? Let us know your awesome drone flying stories down below!👇
Have the original Mavic Mini with no tracking features. Best way to film myself with that one is to download a 3rd party app that supports waypoints and then simply fly from A to B and try to get yourself in the shot. Works better than you might think if you only need a few seconds of drone shots.
ruclips.net/user/shortsUW77JPpSTP0
I just got one to try add some additional interest to my video's. I am very much a novice so we will see how this riding season goes.
Neil, this is awesome! The epics you guys do in the UK are some of my favorites because of the exploration aspect and I really enjoy seeing the countryside and terrain in those videos. Would love to ride in many of the places you have gone. This should help take the videography to another level, looking forward to it!
Look forward to seeing more drone stuff, including describing how you use it. Thanks matey!
Glad you enjoyed this different style of video! There are many videos out there that can help show how to use it. We just wanted to showcase the different perspectives they give you and, generally how great they are! Thanks for watching! 👍
Great footage from the drone, look forward to some footage going through high density wooded area.
finally!!!!!!! cant wait to see more footage!!!
We're sure Neil has some awesome things planned! 🤘
How to manage the controller on you while you ride is the real trick to this it seems. As an alternative to strapping it on your chest, I've seen some youtube users set up the drone in the air to active track and then take off the joysticks and place the controller in a backpack for a short amount of time to ride a segment (and then re-engage the joysticks and land the drone after a short clip). The Skydio 2+ drone with a beacon seems to be more set up for following sports, but that option is over twice the cost of your setup.
That’s brilliant, I’d love something like that to film my rides, makes the videos so much better
I bought a drone a couple of years ago to use for the same reason. In fact it's the same drone but older. I drag it out every now and then to have a practice, then lose confidence and pack it away again. I even have a particular track I want to film my mates and I on. The tricky thing is keeping it out of the trees. I'm keen to see how you go Neil. I might be tempted to give mine a proper go.
Awesome informative video Neil. Cheers!
Glad you liked it!
Beautiful footage. New subscriber here. Thanks.
I've got a dji mini. I LOVE it!
POV is cool, dron shots are cool - all videos from raiding are sweet.
Glad you like them!
Well done 👍
I use the same mini and for the controller I use a chest-pack that I found on amazon (used for hand guns apparently) It fits tight and does not get in the way but gives you access to the controller quickly. I also take the sticks off so it slides into the pack easily. I have used it on the gravel bike as well but have to wear it pretty high up to avoid knee strikes. It will actually fit both drone and controller in it without the phone.
Great idea. Thanks for posting this.
Cheers Neil, now I want one!
nice and informative video 😃😃😃
Thanks a lot! 😊
My deepest condolences to our GMBN families in the UK God Bless The Queen 🇬🇧😥
Thanks for this! I have a drone and I’ve been thinking about videoing myself but I haven’t worked out where to put the controller. Keen to see how this plays out
And that's why I stopped carrying one around when I was (moto) enduro riding.
It was a pain to ride some interesting terrain and worry about the drone ending up in a river or someone's property or hung up on a tree.
Also, just stopping a ride and unpacking, starting the drone, then stopping it was such a pain in the butt, that I stopped using it completely....
From the "I have to share this" I went to "screw you, be there if you want to see it" ...
@@denesk2794 makes sense! I probably wouldn’t post anything I shot with it, but I love having videos of things. I’ll give it a try with just the phone. Might be a nice rude way of seeing my poor jump method
Great topic.
Thanks Sean, glad you enjoyed the content!
I really like when tubers edit pov, drone, and 3rd party all together in one vid.
love the music at 7:24
We love droning our trips:)
They're great to capture a whole new perspective with, aren't they?! 👍
@@gmbn sure.....we use in our video drone and fake drone (360 cam on 118in selfie Stick in no fly zone)..... awesome:)
You do need an Operators ID which has to be fixed to the drone. Also if you are using the drone for commercial use you need a applicable licence and insurance.
Indeed, given GMBN is a monetised channel I don’t think you can legally use your own personal drone for videos like this, you need the relevant licenses for commercial use
I have both 👍
@@neildonoghueMTB Fair enough, iIonly use mine for personal stuuf, but some people don't even know about the licence requirements.
@@neildonoghueMTB That's good, can I suggest you put in the video description that you have an A2 C of C then, it will help to spread the message.
CAA had stated that youtube and social media was NOT classed as commercial use of a drone. 'Ian in London' another youtuber covered this in a video called 'Using your Drone for Paid Work - Commercial Work & Selling Your Pictures & Videos'
but spot on about the operator ID being a must.
for me POV with insta360 camera is awesome too.just looking the best point to put the camera...but it's a bit less comfortable if it's on a helmet
Nice👍
drone shots are a must have IMO. ESPECIALLY for the videos you guys make. no other tool gives better context to a narrative
the only thing better than the drone would be to have a drone with a 360 camera on it so you don't worry about where it steers itself too much because you can always reframe the video afterwards to show something else that's in the 360 shot. I've long been a fan of the 360 camera concept. they're getting better at it but they still haven't perfected the parallax distortion at the seam. for something like a drone shot though, if you're shooting a one-off thing like a race, it's not like you can do another take, so being able to pick anything you want to see in the 360 frame and punch in on it seems like a gold mine to me.
I think at that size a 360 camera is still pretty limited in its ability to be able to maintain quality when you punch in, but those little drones are great for a lot of the adventure trips you do where you can't necessarily take a camera crew everywhere. even if you disregard the ability to film for GMBN, you could probably use it to help scout a route during a cross country adventure
eventually when I do the solo touring trip that I want to do, that little drone would be one of the cameras I would take, I would probably also want a 360 camera of some sort either the insta360 or a GoPro max
@@better.better I have owned both the GoPro Max and the insta360. The GoPro does a far better job at stitching at the seam but they both have very noticeable distortion. The image doesn't look natural. By the way the GoPro has terrible Windows software so I ended up sticking with the insta360. But even so I rarely use it and I'm thinking of selling it.
Mainly because of the image not looking anything like that of a regular camera. It's just the nature of 360 cameras. I wouldn't want one on a drone to be honest. It would make the footage look cheap compared to a regular camera. I would rather have multiple regular cameras on a drone for the purposes of capturing more action.
Neil, yes i've been wanting to get a drone, POV does not do justice on the size of jumps, or steeps of the DH. Looking for a great option with GOOD follow me. Up here in the PNW, we have a few trees. Avoidance sensors are also needed.
I've got to get me one of these drones. ✌🏾
They're great fun to use! 👍
Nice! Show us a tour of your van
Check out Neil's MTB Van Tour here! - ruclips.net/video/gBADClcAYzw/видео.html
Awesome. What's the battery life like? What flight time do you get? Do you need to take several batteries with you?
Awesome!
Is that the Shropshire Hills?
Do check local legislation, most places require you to fly VLOS (maintaining physical sight of the drone at all times).
I feel flying autonomously while riding a bike does not fulfill this requirement. There might be some exceptions if you have an assistant watching the drone. But definitely check local rules, its a legal jungle out there right now.
Or fly illegally, right now many use cases are not legally possible in some jurisdictions. Like FPV flying. But flying outside the law is a bit risky as a content creator that's posting the evidence on RUclips...
For UK CAA rules Follow-me mode is legal, check point 35 of the CAA regulations.
What license is required to fly a drone of this type?
@@nigelrandtoul8646 in the UK? I wouldn't know.
In EU currently you need to register as a drone operator (for a small fee), and that is all that is required for the smaller drones. Only ones without any camera are exempt. At least until 2024.
In the US its a little different, you don't need to register for sub-250g drones, unless you are using it for business (having a RUclips channel counts as business). If you're using it for business, then you need to register and do part 107 exam.
You have to figure out the rules in the country you are flying in, its very possible UK has more free rules.
Be interesting to hear from the production guys as to the quality of the footage, colour accuracy etc and any post processing the files need to be used or to better match GoPro footage for resolution, colour space, frame rates etc... compression, formats etc that are recommended or to look out for when buying a unit... optical and digital zoom or horizon levelling etc...
Don't forget to use a nd filter when out in the full daylight. It will make the picture much smoother
Got a used drone to try out the hobby; I am doing a 24h MTB marathon fundraiser this weekend and will try to get some aerial footage of my team and myself... also bringing a GoPro and a regular camera :)
Hi,I think you need a person special take care the Drone filming !🤙Cheers Mate !🤙
@@Norway-BOY-MTB-Mountainbike Agreed but it's a relay event so we're not riding nonstop... I'll be riding 10-12hrs so have 12-14hrs to shoot drone footage 🤓Or sleep...
@@reallybigphilly Yeah !!👍Good luck !! Enjoy your ride !! 💪
Where is Neil riding, any ideas? Looks to rugged for the Mendips?
Reminds me how much I love getting out on the bike, without any tech. Just me, the wind and the ground beneath my wheels. Not even a garmin (shock horror), or a mobile phone. Try it, very freeing.
no thanks u do u sweet thing
If your income was attached to filming yourself riding you might feel different I guess - I agree with you that the ride is the ride, its purpose is to remove me from my everyday life. I do like a phone with me for emergencies and to take pictures of my bike though....
That‘s the way it used to be in old days mountain biking. No tech equipment, no complicated gear. Put your trainers on, get on the bike and ride away. Those were the days…
@@Chief_Engineer guess im living in the past because i still do that for like every ride
They are great but they slow down your riding, makes everything stressful. Loved mine but gave it up for my videos.
that music for the last few shots sounds like Blake made it lol
I would love to see them use a drone on wolftickvideos i didnt know it was illegal in the usa i would love one for some follow footage that looks an excellent tool.
Sheeeeeesh wish I had the budget for that
How did it work in the woods where y'all normally ride?
Does anyone know what the cargo net Neil has in his van is called?
I had DJI mavic a few years ago returned it. flight time was too short, trouble establishing connection and the follow me didn't work just became a distraction on the day. I just wanted it to follow me for one lap around a Ice lake couldn't do it.
Once they get 100% reliable, chuck it in the air and have it follow and 1.5hr flight time maybe other wise meh rather get on with riding. It's not to say I'm not interested in more drone content I'm esp how it does in the woods.
I've been thinking about getting a drone for along time and now I've seen this its time I did alot of investigating in it
Hello Neil..that's a good idea having drone to record yourself while riding. I also use drone when I ride my emtb to record my action and post it to my youtube channel. Hope to see your video in future using active track mode.
Hey Neil, have you managed to find a better solution to strap the controller to your camel bag during the ride? can you share with us what you use?
Just be careful with your home point setting. Else it will be flying back to the top of the mountain 😂 I own a dji drone. But didn't bring it yet and my mavic mini doesn't do active tracking.
Looking forward to seeing more drone shots since that unit is $1200 Canadian plus 13% tax. I would rather have a new set of wheels😁
I used to have a DJI Mavic Pro, great fun. However, I got frustrated with the amount of people who don't understand them, think they know better, and I hate confrontation, so I ended up selling it. Gutted really. have fun though, great laugh :)
I basically only ever fly far away from anyone else... where I live that's easy enough but you're right it's a game of balance to avoid actively disrupting anyone (that's on you as the operator) and also to avoid people who are being overly sensitive about a benign activity.
Does anyone recognise where that is filmed, I want to ride that descent
Sod the drone.......More info on the S-WORKS pls
Nice
Thanks!
Prices need to come down ALOT more as that one is over £700 and not much use unless in open areas.
Drones are cool. This sends a bad message though. As by law the drone needs operator ID on it. As its being used for commercial use you need a drone license and insurance. Hands need to be on the controllers at all times and VLOS maintained. Looks like you might be on NT land which has no TOAL policy. Some might say sod at all that but as a big professional company you have a responsibility to adhere to all laws and rules. Theres enough restrictive legislation for drone use as it is without it being made worse by bad use examples like this and from a big professional company too.
I noticed there were no ads on this video so is it for commercial use then still. It's probably a grey area but I'm assuming why there's no ads. It's need an operator ID though. Plus you can reasonably easily get EVOLS dispensation added to your permissions,it was competency test along with night flying added to the flight exam when I did it but that was 2012 so I dunno if it's changed?
@@Jaycee2346 I got adverts at the start. Its on a channel with 2million subscribers and turns over thousands a year. His gear is sponsored advertisement for which GMBN is being paid. He is being paid to make this video. This drone is being used for commercial purposes and thats that. As for VLOS dispensation do they have that then? Is he a licensed drone operator? Is he/drone have commercial Insurance. Is the drone registered and marked with operator ID. Does he have written permission from NT for TOAL? Even if all yes (which if we’re being honest here is probably not the case)this is sending the wrong message to what is already a heavily restriction and fractiously legislated activity. Great footage and all that but ….. well, you know what I am getting at I’m sure.
@@nathanlenehan5507 the rules changed for commercial use just FYI you now dont need a PFCO what it was called i think its now a GVC, but you do need commercial insurance like you said and operator id etc
@@nathanlenehan5507 ahhh I didn't get an advert at the start that's why I said it. And it was strange there were none though out that's why I assumed they probably did it for that reason. Yeah totally forgot that he gets paid to be a presenter haha that would overall of that then! We have no idea of what permissions he has or doesn't but I guess caveats should be put into the video stating rules. I think your technically right in terms of sending the wrong message when it comes to legality. That said it shouldn't be that way really if you are just doing it for fun. Not saying you are but the drone police are the most detrimental to the industry and let's be honest most of the can't fly for shit
@@Jaycee2346 Its different from someone with next to none subscribers doing it for free for a bit of fun and a 663million company , Warner Bros - who owns gmbn- the worlds biggest and fastest growing mountain biking channel in the world. They have responsibility and influence and should be above water with the law and setting the example. I think we are agreeing on it 👍
Did it work through the forest or not?
where´s the woods?
Hi maybe you can ask Mctrail rider how he does it he got awesome drone videos
Things have gotten crazy expensive with all the registrations and online courses needed. Over here , even for the = 250gr anyway )
A sub 250g drone needs an operator ID and thats it (£10). Anything above this (ie drone licence is purely optional)
@@nathanlenehan5507 that's in the only in the UK. Laws are different in Europe and the US.
@@nathanlenehan5507 Not if you are using it commercially though, which given GMBN is a monetised channel…
Assuming you have a battery-charger case (From the Fly-More-set?), get a powerbank, and always charge the the batteries you are not using while flying/riding/eating lunch.
Otherwise you look pro already ;-)
I believe you lose some sensors (if not all) in sport.
If you're approaching a questionable tree/obstacle, kind of go wide, if possible, allowing the drone to accurately trace you.
Also, the controller rigged onto your chest is a great idea....
I put mine in my backpack which wasn't a good idea (especially with sticks still attached)
Yeah, sport mode disables all of the sensors. Putting the remote in your backpack must've made the drone go a bit crazy! 😂
@@gmbn To be honest I guess I placed it in a good position the first few times but I did have some suspect maneuvers and I realized it was probably the thumb sticks moving so I stopped doing it lol
Nice video, I should put drones on my channel
If you are making money on your RUclips videos, be sure you get your Part 107 Pilots License. Otherwise you risk MAJOR fines if you're found out. They are cracking down hard on unlicenced drone pilots using their drones for profit. Examples, RUclips, real estate, etc.
Either way, make sure to follow your local laws regarding safe drone flight. They are cracking down on rule breakers also.
Good luck.
In NY, it's not allowed to fly drone anywhere any time. Probably my yard is ok
i wanna a small drone while i bike long distant to follow me and maybe rain proof
Hi Neil, check out DM productions on here, Darren knows everything drone and has some great vids. Keep up the good work buddy 😃
Hey, where you put your remote while riding?
He explains that at 6:43.
It was strapped to Neil's chest. 👍
@@gmbn yeah just asked to early while watching
Do GMBN make you buy your own kit ??
Child boy scammer , get a man's job boy
As a drone operator all I'm going to input was there are some great shots/video in this, however - ensure you follow the CAA code at all times and VLOS is key. Technically you need to be fully in control while flying irrelevant of the mode you're in...but it's all a risk assessment and clear code from the CAA.
Good stuff :)
Follow me is legal if within 50m of you. Point 35 of CAA drone guidelines.
Drones and MTB is a GREAT combination!!! The husband from my sister has a lot of drones and he filmed me several times on dh sections/trails. GREAT shots were the results. Yes. My sister is old 😂 (she's 30) and I'm 16😐😂 (and the youngest of my family)
30....old! 🙄😵
Drones are great at getting sick shots of your riding! It's so cool to get a new perspective on how your riding looks from high up! 👍
so beautiful! where is it?
Mendip Hills, Somerset UK, I think.
Or could be Shropshire Hills (as Neil is from around there I believe).
@@rupedog pretty sure that's not the Mendips. I live there and don't recognise anything.
brilliant... would be great if you could get one and and it could follow you for a 3-4 hour ride without having to give it any thought...
That would be the dream! Unfortunately, the batteries only last around 25mins. 😅
3-4 hrs of 4k content makes for a very long workflow, also in a series of 20 minute flights.
Would be nice to of known if it would go lower through the tree lines or go above them and then lose you 😅
Hey Darren! They can fly really close to the ground, which is great for avoiding trees. Although, make sure no one is around that could get hurt! 😅
Neil, I am surprised you bought it. You didnt get it sponsored from DJI?
Nooo... please don't normalize drones at the trail system for the sake of ad revenue. Half the reason I get out on my bike is to be out in nature.
Oh man, why didn't you show the really interesting parts: riding trails in the woods. There are already lots of videos on drones tracking in the open, but not so much in the woods
I crashed my dji mavic pro (1st gen) into a tree on an island.. :( I had to swim to the island in my underwear and I wasn't really close to my homeplace
I have a dji drone with my gvc license I will do drone footage for you 😉 😀
I've heard drones work best around airports.
Yeah .. not where I live. There is dense tree cover everywhere. A drone has absolutely zero chance following through the brush. Most places you are lucky if can do a 4-5 minute descent without anything slapping you in the face or wrap around you ....
It's bewildering to me why the pro peloton can't use drones instead of that army of motorbikes and helicopters. Just think, you would be able to get footage in the middle of the main peloton or anywhere around the riders. It would be safer for everyone to get rid of those motorbikes and some cars. But no, the UCI comes up with this rule that they want all the teams to reduce their carbon emissions. I scratch my head at how stupid some of these agencies are when they can't see the technologies right in front of them.
You guys should try the Skydio 2+. It's a completely autonomous drone!
Should just build an fpv quad, cheaper ,faster and more durable/maneuverable and you can chase people down trails when you get good fuck dji
don't overlook the 180 pano still shot. they are easily shared and look great in maps. i get a few every launch to index the day.
For your purpose a skydio is better.
You can’t legally operate a drone while riding a bike or vehicle in the USA. You also have to have visual line of sight on the drone at all times, so unless you have a buddy filming you, those autonomous features still make you the pilot in command. Obviously the FAA doesn’t have the people to enforce the rules they created, but the rules still exist so post your videos publicly at your own risk.
Same in Europe
America has a million laws. Beautiful land though 😍
Same in the uk 500m maximum away and maintain visual line of sight which isn’t possible if you are riding.basically need a second person doing the drone to do it all legally, depends on your attitude to the law really but I personally wouldn’t do it
I’m Italy you can with a drone < 500g an a distance < 50 m
@@davidwalley2926 Follow me is legal in the UK, point 35 in the rules of drone flying, forgot to add that in the previous comment. My apologies.
Global.how’s everythin ggoing?,you shared superb !
DJI needs an app that will allow you to control it via your phone. Slow speed basic maneuvering and “follow me” features should be available via phone without the remote. They can even set it to where if the link to the phone dies, the drone lands. That’s the future of drones anyway, so the sooner they do this the better.
Make sure you do the bare minimum theory and get the i.d for it.
If you are getting paid for youtube videos and using a drone for footage, you need the part 107
Before I watched this video I made a bet that it wouldn’t comply with current UK laws… safe to say I don’t owe you any cash Neil. 😉Even though the flying in this video was very low risk, as others have pointed out you did not follow the current regs on a number of counts.
Unfortunately the laws at present are quite complex and as you are a big company operating commercially you really need to be whiter than white - please remember model flying in general is under huge scrutiny at this point as authorities attempt to legislate us all out of the air so that commercial operators can use the low level airspace (even though the tech is not ready for them to do that yet). All it would take would be a report of this video to the authorises and you could end up with a nasty knock on the door (yes it’s rare, but it does happen).
This guy is a good cautionary tale of what happens when you get it wrong…. ruclips.net/video/tSud9mskhqE/видео.html
As posted he has both operators and commercial license. So I don't believe any law is broken...but please advise for all of us wanting to get one, what laws were transgressed.
fucking hell how many posts you made on this video already -- give it a rest bro
Skydio 2+ Beacon much simpler Neil
Omg first??
🎉🤘🎉
Litchi 3rd party app to fly DJI follows the controller pretty good
Nonsense! leave drone flying /filming to experienced people