Thank you for putting this on RUclips. One of the jewels in England's glorious Church choral tradition crown. I wonder when 'they' will come for it; to 'de-colonise' or 'improve' it through the addition of the female voice? And the Chapel! The world's most glorious stone 'hanger' of a building.
Don't need 'de-colonizatuon 'or changes to the present choral tradition of boy choristers and gentlemen choral scholars or lay clerks! Leave this beautiful and ancient choral tradition alone and pursue other meaningful purposes in your lives!
@@worldnotworldI saw just recently that st Johns is accepting girl choristers into its ranks now. A shame, little girls don't really have the range of colour that little boys have.
Beautiful! I wonder, though, if there might be found a BBC radio 3 recording of the programme Surrexit Pastor Bonus broadcast on 19th April 1993 at 6pm. I had this on cassette, but cassettes have gone the way of all flesh and it was s truly remarkable programme that is very well worth sharing!
I hope they're singing again _pronto._ I heard them numerous times in February/March, and it was clear Hyde had just begun figuring out what to do. The result was very Ledger-like (and not imitative of St. John's at all, as some had feared). He'd obviously been learning attentively from the choir itself. The trebles are an exceptionally strong and flexible crop right now, with a few outstanding soloists in the last four years, which helps. Speculation: there is a difficult underlying problem with all the British all-male choirs, in that the boys are largely afraid of sounding individually too "beautiful," with the result that certain ringing quality that even a "vertical" choir like King's always relied on is harder to put together. It's a cultural shift.
@@worldnotworld astute observations. I've taken to comparing old recordings of the UK's biggest choirs, and the shift isn't pretty. St John's is the only one which has kept - and refined - their sound. Nethsingah isn't afraid to take on a softer tone and the resulting effect is dazzling. Westminster abbey has taken on a very muscular tone, ostensibly from Mr O'Donnell's stint at the Cathedral, and King's just sounded frail. Daniel seems to allow the boys some degree of expression and interpretation in their singing and that has allowed the vocal colours to start propagating again
@@el7284 I don't know how I missed your comments from so long ago! I think even St. John's had undergone some of the shift I'd mentioned - though Nethsingha rode with it to develop a fantastic sound. I cannot believe I must henceforth refer to St. J's in the past tense. Not being in the UK recently I've only heard Hyde on the 9LC broadcast, but I was pretty darned impressed.
@@el7284 I don't remember where I heard this, but apparently he'd made some "scandalous" remark that he preferred the current sound of St. J's over King's. Who knows. St. J's is now irrelevant anyway.
This Canadian programme is probably the best documentary about the Choir of King’s College and the Chapel I think I have seen.
Very informative.
Wonderful to see Charles Daniels, Gerry Finley and John Butt all starting out amazing careers at King’s
Thank you for putting this on RUclips. One of the jewels in England's glorious Church choral tradition crown. I wonder when 'they' will come for it; to 'de-colonise' or 'improve' it through the addition of the female voice? And the Chapel! The world's most glorious stone 'hanger' of a building.
Don't need 'de-colonizatuon 'or changes to the present choral tradition of boy choristers and gentlemen choral scholars or lay clerks!
Leave this beautiful and ancient choral tradition alone and pursue other meaningful purposes in your lives!
King's is now the last of the Oxbridge choirs not to have been vandalized. Keep praying.
@@worldnotworldI saw just recently that st Johns is accepting girl choristers into its ranks now.
A shame, little girls don't really have the range of colour that little boys have.
Utterly splendid. Thank you for posting.
Beautiful 💓
Beautiful!
I wonder, though, if there might be found a BBC radio 3 recording of the programme Surrexit Pastor Bonus broadcast on 19th April 1993 at 6pm. I had this on cassette, but cassettes have gone the way of all flesh and it was s truly remarkable programme that is very well worth sharing!
If you mean the programme broadcast in 1992 (not 1993), the choral ensemble involved falls beyond the scope of this archive.
@@ArchiveofRecordedChurchMusic Ah well! Can't blame a guy for trying. Thanks very much!
No blame can ever be attached to a polite request!
At 13:15 Mr Ledger availed himself a response to public commentary on the hardness of his consonant attacks.
Anyone know what they're singing at 13:00? Absolutely beautiful.
Parsons Ave Maria
ca. 23:00 Is that Charles Daniels?
I thought so And John Butt? Playing organ?
Many thanks. This is wonderful. Though it's familiar to me, I cannot place the _Nunc Dimittis_ at 26:20; whose is that?
Howells Evening Service Collegium Regale.
Does anyone know the name of the tenor singing the solo?
@@ianstafford2218 Thank you. The answer came to me as I was going to the market for supper, and you've confirmed it!
@@jdbr4rc Charles Daniels en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Daniels_(tenor)
The English are losing their own sound! God bless Daniel Hyde for bringing back that glorious treble tone
I hope they're singing again _pronto._ I heard them numerous times in February/March, and it was clear Hyde had just begun figuring out what to do. The result was very Ledger-like (and not imitative of St. John's at all, as some had feared). He'd obviously been learning attentively from the choir itself. The trebles are an exceptionally strong and flexible crop right now, with a few outstanding soloists in the last four years, which helps.
Speculation: there is a difficult underlying problem with all the British all-male choirs, in that the boys are largely afraid of sounding individually too "beautiful," with the result that certain ringing quality that even a "vertical" choir like King's always relied on is harder to put together. It's a cultural shift.
@@worldnotworld astute observations. I've taken to comparing old recordings of the UK's biggest choirs, and the shift isn't pretty. St John's is the only one which has kept - and refined - their sound. Nethsingah isn't afraid to take on a softer tone and the resulting effect is dazzling.
Westminster abbey has taken on a very muscular tone, ostensibly from Mr O'Donnell's stint at the Cathedral, and King's just sounded frail.
Daniel seems to allow the boys some degree of expression and interpretation in their singing and that has allowed the vocal colours to start propagating again
@@worldnotworld also, who had feared about the st John's imitation? I hadn't heard anything about that?
@@el7284 I don't know how I missed your comments from so long ago! I think even St. John's had undergone some of the shift I'd mentioned - though Nethsingha rode with it to develop a fantastic sound. I cannot believe I must henceforth refer to St. J's in the past tense. Not being in the UK recently I've only heard Hyde on the 9LC broadcast, but I was pretty darned impressed.
@@el7284 I don't remember where I heard this, but apparently he'd made some "scandalous" remark that he preferred the current sound of St. J's over King's. Who knows. St. J's is now irrelevant anyway.
The chorister at 8:29 looks _and sounds_ a lot like Peter Gabriel!
And the rich-as-an-English-Christmas-Cake narrator? Who he?
Penny Travers I think it might be Gerald Peacocke who was the headmaster of the choir school
I think I saw Gerald Finley in the choir.. Was he there in this year?
Yes, he's interviewed in the documentary.
55:40
35:40 44:15