Hello, I would like to know why when singing torn voices and Scream in the black metal style, why does the digastric muscle tense a lot? and it hurts a little to touch that muscle. Is it true that you have to put tension on the diaphragm to be able to retain air?
Hello, I am long time singer trying to expand my horizons. After a year of working with vocal coach I am starting to having a grip on frys, but they're still unstable. I practice everyday on my way to and from workplace, like 20-30 minute car trips, and sometimes I can sing along with Architects and Currents, but sometimes I just can't make my throat vibrate, I can do clean vocals, but if I try to add some compression it just not happen and sounds like a whistling, like when you push too much on true cords. Any help? Also, I'm trying to develop growls for some time and don't think I ever had progress on this. Tried your methods like deep sigh, or clear throat at cinema and it's not working for me, sighs don't have overtones, and clearing throat quickly starts to hurt. Any other ways to find out what my false cords is and how to apply them right?
idk if it's suitable for here or for a short, but I've been listening for Imperial Circus Dead Decadence for a while now and I just can't wrap my head around those super high pitch screams Rib:y(uhki) does. you can find an example of that in the first scream of their song "Uta". I would really love it if you can make a short or something teaching how to scream like that!
Hi David, firstly im a massive fan of yours and literally you are so helpful my dude. Secondly, this may sound naive, and as a vocalist surely i should know my body but id just thought id get a bit of insight. In rehearsal , i scream, fry, guttural, mixed with mid to high cleans and hybrid vocals for around 3 hours pretty much non stop. Obviously we have breaks in between songs around 1 min max, but my question is, after these 3 hour sessions, i do find my throat is a bit hoarse, i cannot hit a 'usually' easy mid falsetto note (yet can easily hit a higher one) and my mid range feels 'weird'. i also wake up to a dry throat and a bit of a grunty voice. Does this mean i am not performing my vocals correctly or is it just over use in rehearsal? the reason i ask is i have found over the past 6 months, my mid cleans seem to be hit or miss when i go to produce the vocal. It sometimes is just air, or sometimes very squeaky. Other times its fine, but i really have to focus to produce the vocal, yet much higher cleans i hit with ease, literally no strain or trying involved. Any insight id be really grateful for my dude
I've commented saying this, before, but, I'll say it, again: I have progressed soooo much with my voice because of your videos. I mainly only did lows cuz fry screams just seemed intimidating to me lol. 6 months later, I'm mixxing gutterals, fry screams, false chord screams and gloterrals. Thank you. I still have lots of practice ahead of me, but, you clarified sooo much for me.
It’s amazing how effortlessly you produce these harsh vocals. Quite impressive. I’m 43, and have been trying to learn this for years. I have yet to unlock the secret. Poopie.
David your the reason I'm improving my vocals and I have to thank you for putting these videos out where I can understand and learn easier for me to get my vocals better and my band is also very thankful for you keep teaching the new generation the art of metal vocals
OMGGG total YES on the challenges of being a long-time singer trying to learn screaming. You have to unlearn about 60% of the “rules” you’ve internalized for years or even decades! I keep ending up with a shout-sing when I mean to just scream.
Just starting out screaming, wondering the best course to take vocals from starting out just doing the "mahhhh" false chord to actual lyrics. I feel I can hold an open scream pretty well, but trying a sentence with any sort of longevity is super challenging. Thank you so much, your work and dedication to this is so amazing.
i know i’m not him BUT i’ll tell you how i did it and you can take it from there! when i could comfortably activate false chord i tried talking and applying it. found stuff that was a bit lower singing/speaking wise such as rammstein and then started using false chord and then talking the lyrics instead of singing. you want to be as loosey goosey as possible. barely any effort at all in it just enough push in the stomach to get distortion and almost zero tightness in the throat. then add a bit of talking and go from there. i found my natural end to be lower like bozeman. then just gradually add power whenever i feel like my screams are getting slightly painful i reset myself and go back to the talking and less effort
Just find your own voice. I’m been doing vocals for a while and it took time to find the range I was comfortable with. I have a raspy death metal range like Jeff Walker of Carcass.
Been wanting to learn to scream for years but never knew how to learn. You're videos are the clearest and most informative way of learning how to scream I have seen on YT. Thank you and please keep making videos 🤘
This came out at the most perfect time, I was just practicing yesterday and wondered why sometimes I’ll get a sharp pain in my head after a vocal thank you!
Great video! Excited for more of this series. It never hurts to learn more about my vocals, especially while just hitting that point of figuring them out!
I love your content! Been really wanting to get into the Johnny Booth style screams more- how would you break that technique down and what exercises would you recommend for that?
I swear I see this man everytime I go to a concert idk if it’s just my mind or what but last time I saw him was at the Middle East idk if he was with ingested or Sanguisugabogg but he was there
Thats last 2 question is exactly what hapoen to me right now... i just a casual singer, just enjoy to sing on my way and on the way home, but i really want to able to sing with distortion so i able to sing LinkinPark songs better..
In an ever expanding and rapidly innovating extreme metal vocal environment, would you recommend at all people be on par with the ‘greats’ as of now or would you hope the scene gradually progresses so all can do what the ‘greats’ do now and then some? Examples are: Justin Bonitz, Dickie Allen, Ben Duerr, Greg Gilbert etc
I’ve been trying fry screaming for a couple of weeks, and I can get the basic fry sound, but I find it very difficult to project it without straining and eventually hurting my throat.
Hey David! When I was born my tongue bridle (the thing that connects the tongue to the bottom of the mouth) was not cut, and it limits my ability to manipulate the tongue, especially with open mouth. For example I cant touch the roof of my mouth with the tip of my tongue while my mouth is wide open, and I cant stick out the tongue further than 2-3 cm from my teeth. And so it somewhat affects my ability to shape the tone of my screams. I still can do tunnel throat and goblin thing, but my low screams both FC and fry are feeling a bit weird and underpowered. I was wondering if you have ever had experience with someone like me? If so if there's any advice you can give on how to go around it? Thank you!
Hey David, I have a question. I’ve come across the band named “Portal,” and I have fallen in love the band, but I really want to know how to do the vocals of the lead singer. Could you do a video on that? And check out the band, it’s really good music.
can someone help me its about 3 years that im doing metal vocals but its about 1 month that i feel gag reflex during doing vocals idk i smoke cig a lot maybe its cuz of that idk can someone help?
Dudes with gorgeous hair prolly don't do shit to it. Prolly why it's usually so healthy looking. Unlike most girls that straighten, curl it, blow dry it and put all kinda products in their hair ruining it's health
I haven't done intense vocals for a good mi ute and i got interested in it again. I noticed right off the back i can sound more like corpse grinder from cannibal corpse. But im trying to work on a sound more like slaughter to prevail, lorna shore, white chapel, infant Annihilator sound. When i try to practice it soumds more raspy than fry or guterals.
My type of screams are a mix of belting and fry and are quite similar to Anders Fridén from In Flames and i have a difficult time to reach low growls using that teqnique. Do you got any tips for me?
Yo David, I have a question about false chord screaming. I'm not practicing them very long, and also not often. When combining the normal singing voice, and the false chord, it starts hurting really fast, I guess because of vocal chords working same time. Is this "normal" as a person who is not screaming for a long time, or is it the wrong technique ?
Thank you so much! I've been practicing simplifying, not changing pitch or the position of my throat too much once I lock onto a nice fry. I think I was trying to do too much too soon without realizing it. My fav band is In Flames, and sometimes I confused the melody track and the scream track, thinking the scream line is more complex than it is. Anyway, thanks so much, David!
So, I've been working with this idea of not letting the singing track of the music I practice to suck me into trying to copy the melody with screaming. I'm learning(it seems to me currently) that you need to almost create a scream "harmony" line, because the mouth shapes for singing are so different from those of screaming. Ironically, I'm having more success practicing screaming along to singing songs than trying to scream to scream songs. Breakthrough. 🤘
Love your videos! How would you describe what Liam in Cancer Bats is doing in Lucifer’s Rocking Chair? I think it sounds amazing and want to work on that kind of tone and scream-sing, but it’s hard to tell the different kinds of metal vocals.
Thank you for these q and a's!! It seems a lot of issues stem from using too much air, how do you control your air flow usage? I think I use more than I need to
We have a few videos here that may help and then full courses on each of this things as well: False cord vs fry screams: ruclips.net/video/rvQmyYR2k9Y/видео.html Breathing for metal vocals: ruclips.net/video/Wj-gqIPy_44/видео.html Power ≠ tone: ruclips.net/video/0cxP1gt8Rx0/видео.html To learn more about our courses: extremevocalinstitute.com/evi-now
i have the problem while trying to fry that my fry kinda breaks into a clean high note that just kinda sounds like a cicken dying. also usually after every scream i feel like i have to breathe out heavily. is that a sign for anything specific im doing wrong and how can i get my fry to be more consistent?
Question: I (kind of) can mix the scream with notes on different level in chest and head registers. But when I am trying to scream in mixed register (E4 - B4) everything breaks apart, the scream become uncompressed and the note jumps high up and becomes very light and almost unhearable. I tried to add more force or control while going up, but then I just cannot go higher the note is stuck in E4-F4.
Hi David, been a fan of yours for about a year now. I started my heavy vocals journey back in 2009 by singing along with 5FDP "Way of the Fist" album. Since then, I've taken a lot of your advice on the channel and applied them to my singing. That said, one thing still eludes me. When I try and aim high, especially on fry screams, I get a harsh gag reflex. It's caused me to vomit from doing covers of Mudvayne's "IMN" and pretty much every Lorna Shore song. Any idea what causes that reflex and what steps can I take to avoid it or overcome it? Thanks for the information and I look forward to a part 2.
Is it important to learn the basics of singing in order to scream properly? Can it help in the long run? You said being a trained singer can impede the learning process a little bit, and it made me curious about the opposite effect.
alright so to re iterate the question that wasn't answered, do you use less or more CONSTRICTION for fry vocals? The question is not about projection lol we (or I) know the difference. The big question here, is do you need to clamp down as hard (ie, constrict more) to make fry vocals work. Because I'm sure this dude has the same issue I do, false chord is super easy, not much constriction. But fry seems to only work when I constrict it so much that it's hard to project properly. When I project I have to loosen up, which stops the distortion. If you watch videos of people screaming through a throat camera, you see that for fry vocals they're almost completely closed up, and constricted in an asymmetrical way. THAT is the tenant of the question, I believe. And man, it was the first time ever in one of these I was like "oh, oh, yes, please tell me, finally!" and then we get hit with projection tips instead haha. I love you and your channel, but c'mon mannn please don't start up the whole "answer the wrong question" thing like so many others do. I love you BECAUSE you are so in depth, but this is one thing I've still never ever seen someone discuss. They always just say "fry distort, then project." But when I project it ALL falls apart. The heel bounce thing helped a bit, but I still can't do fry's at all haha. The science of false chord is pretty straight forward, but no one seems to be able to explain fry screams to me...
In relation to oxygen control and throat tension, how will we know we’re using our “golden spot” of both? I’ve tried to utilize more oxygen with less tension and I would either cough or dry out quickly and when I do the opposite (less air higher tension) I begin to sort of Lowkey sound more like a burp. I’m a heavy smoker but used to be a front man before all the smoking and could still never hit the pitches I wanted.
I’ve noticed that I tend to lose my ability to scream if it’s been a little bit (usually a day or two) between practicing. What’s the ideal time I should be practicing daily/weekly to keep progressing but not over do it?
I can do a song with no issue. BUT after that if I try to do another song my fry scream starts to go away or fade in & out. I do keep myself well hydrated and I make sure to not PUSH to get the sound. Is this an endurance issue? Will this build over time and get better? Let me know and thank you Dave!😊
This video was already posted 3 months ago but I would really appreciate it if you could answer this question. When singing with harsh vocals (being a new singer in this area) sometimes I feel an itch in my throat, without compression, simply doing basic false chords, it doesn't hurt or anything like that, it's just literally an itch, a tickle, and I simply cough to relieve it, is this normal at first or am I using the technique wrong?
My type of screams are a mix of belting and fry and are quite similar to Anders Fridén from In Flames and i have a difficult time to reach low growls using that teqnique. Do you got any tips for me?
I can sing with pretty heavy grit comfortably, and picked up false cord very quickly, but I'm having trouble with fry. I feel like I'm close but it still comes out kind of thin and weak, like my own body is holding me back from really projecting it. Is there a technique for learning fry by starting with grit, like if you were singing AC/DC or Guns n Roses?
Ive been screaming for almost a year now and feel like im kinda stuck. Do you have any advise on bejng able to grow my range and maybe be able to swich cleanly between false cord, fry, pitched screams, and singing
I have figured out how to basically scream and sing but a I cannot figure out how to get my clean voice to sound more aggressive and distorted would you have any advice on learning that?
I need some advice: when I try do the false chord scream, I always do throat bass (some time ago, I do beatbox and learned throat bass first and do it "automatically") how can I solve this?
every time i do a high fry or a false cord scream it hurts, i can't seem to figure out why... sometimes they click in very well however most of the time it doesn't... can you suggest some tips?
why do i feel scratchy pain when false chord screaming and fry screaming? what can the reasons be? I did vocals for about 2 years and still get discomfort every session.
Hey David, could you go over Scarlxrd on how he rap screams and sometimes even does it so fast? A great song example that even features Ghostemane is “MAR” you could search up on here, would mean the world to me if you could thanks 🙏🏽
I meditate,for getting less aggessions,so really,with mudras,without 🕉️...should I maybe do mantra for a little bit different than "normal" Training dry?
Will i be able to have a 1 on 1 session with you if i buy the course? I really need to figure out where my false chord pain is coming from and how to find balance.
Private lessons and our online courses are separate. If you’re interested in private lessons with David you can fill out the form here for more info about rates and scheduling: extremevocalinstitute.com/private-lessons
Normally I can easily tell if I am doing false chord or fry, but when I go particularly high, they start to feel identical no matter which one I start with. How can I distinguish between them? This tends to cause me some strain because I feel like I start to mix when I don't intend to
How can I know if I'm screaming correctly? I can't tell if I'm doing it the right way especially because it doesn't sound quite like all the videos I watch.
Is it actually dangerous to do inhale screams? My person problem is that i can't do fry screams, regardless of how often I try to do them. It's just much easier to do inhales for me and I honestly don't feel like it hurts oder endangers my vocal chords. At first, when I started inhale screaming, it actually tensed up as I tried to get louder, yet now I don't have to try as hard and it doesn't feel or look like i actually tense up. Is it safe to go on with inhales?
Dear friend, I asked you a question on the stream and said that for 2 years I have been trying to cure hypotonic dysphonia and so far I have not been very successful. Of course there are small successes, but I still can't sing and scream, but I can talk. I have a metal band and I'm the vocalist there. We recorded the entire 1st album with hypotonic dysphonia and it was hell, when I wrote vocals I felt a severe sore throat on the right, in the region of muscles and ligaments and nerves. I have been doing vocals since 2015, but since 2017 I have been screaming so hard and tight. Once I already lost my voice in 2019, but in 6 months I completely recovered. Now I lost my voice in October 2021 at a rehearsal with a group and still have not recovered. A huge number of procedures were done on the throat and voice and a lot of medicines were drunk. Are there any other tips and tricks to quickly heal my dysphonia at the level of muscles, nerves and ligaments? I am 24 years old, my name is Alexander. I am attaching a video for you so that you can understand exactly how I screamed all these years, for complete clarity of the picture. My varch phoniatrist said that this technique kills the voice and I did it in vain. Here is a link to the vocals that I used all these years and at the last rehearsal where I lost my voice ruclips.net/video/ypGI0P1Gg2s/видео.html ruclips.net/video/OBMg8s-NaWs/видео.html ruclips.net/video/XlUCgHAG-8c/видео.html I beg you, help me with my question, if there is such an opportunity, I really want to return to vocals, I recorded a lot of covers on RUclips, I have an audience on my channel, that's all I have in my life, I'm so I really want to return it. and last but not least, you can scream with hypotonic muscular type dysphonia if you do it right, that is, the way you show and teach us for a long time, I have watched all your videos and I know how to use false ligaments and even tried to do it when I have dysphonia but it caused a sore throat. I tried growl like Alex Terrible do from Slaughter to prevail. Growl sounds like this with my vocal damage ruclips.net/user/shorts-P6drJzePyM ruclips.net/user/shortsd3QbXqxLmp0
Hi there! As David mentioned in the stream, since this is an instance where you’ve been injured and diagnosed by a doctor to have had vocal damage, he cannot provide any suggestions for you without working with you in a one-on-one scenario. It would not be appropriate for him to try to give you tips for how to improve your situation online. Your situation is specific to you and without him knowing the extensive medical history and being able to hear you in real time, anything that he would suggest could potentially cause more harm than good and that would make us liable for any further injuries that you sustain. We are not willing to put ourselves in that situation and we want what’s best for you too! This will be the stance with any reputable vocal coach. If you are interested in taking lessons with David, feel free to fill out the form on our website: extremevocalinstitute.com/private-lessons. If you don’t opt to work with him we totally understand and we hope that you’re able to find your scream again! - Rilee Co-owner
I have an issue when It comes to sneezing where sometimes it feels like a harsh glottal attack. It's hard for me to control my sneezes to not get this harsh sensation after. Do you know how to deal with this?
The biggest problem i have is getting volume. I think i scream pretty good low and high, but its like a whisper 😅. I struggle trying to get that projection? Then other times i end up coughing my lungs out 😂. I think it stems from me always being a very quiet person and not understanding exactly how to do that, or perhaps making it harder than it actually is.
Okay, hear me out... Get a job at Chick-fil-A. I used to not be able to talk very loud, but working there (very busy location) made me able to be heard literally anywhere (for better or for worse).
I am having the same trouble. Sometimes, there is no pain at all, but there are times where i'm doing the exactly same thing and it feels like claws are scratching my throat
How do you know when you're screaming, when you haven't been doing it right, when you have damage or irreversible damage. Is that a thing? Because I know after a night of singing along with Slipknot and Slaughter to Prevail, next day, my voice is gone. Lol
if I hold my false cord scream for too long I might experience pain in the right part of my ribs, my liver possibly?, I know that the obvious solution would be just to not do it for that long but I'm afraid if I ever do live vocals something could go wrong
Had so much fun answering your questions! Drop any questions you have here in the comments and check back for Part 2 of Scream Solutions soon!
Hello, I would like to know why when singing torn voices and Scream in the black metal style, why does the digastric muscle tense a lot? and it hurts a little to touch that muscle. Is it true that you have to put tension on the diaphragm to be able to retain air?
Hello, I am long time singer trying to expand my horizons. After a year of working with vocal coach I am starting to having a grip on frys, but they're still unstable. I practice everyday on my way to and from workplace, like 20-30 minute car trips, and sometimes I can sing along with Architects and Currents, but sometimes I just can't make my throat vibrate, I can do clean vocals, but if I try to add some compression it just not happen and sounds like a whistling, like when you push too much on true cords. Any help?
Also, I'm trying to develop growls for some time and don't think I ever had progress on this. Tried your methods like deep sigh, or clear throat at cinema and it's not working for me, sighs don't have overtones, and clearing throat quickly starts to hurt. Any other ways to find out what my false cords is and how to apply them right?
idk if it's suitable for here or for a short, but I've been listening for Imperial Circus Dead Decadence for a while now and I just can't wrap my head around those super high pitch screams Rib:y(uhki) does. you can find an example of that in the first scream of their song "Uta". I would really love it if you can make a short or something teaching how to scream like that!
Hi David, firstly im a massive fan of yours and literally you are so helpful my dude. Secondly, this may sound naive, and as a vocalist surely i should know my body but id just thought id get a bit of insight. In rehearsal , i scream, fry, guttural, mixed with mid to high cleans and hybrid vocals for around 3 hours pretty much non stop. Obviously we have breaks in between songs around 1 min max, but my question is, after these 3 hour sessions, i do find my throat is a bit hoarse, i cannot hit a 'usually' easy mid falsetto note (yet can easily hit a higher one) and my mid range feels 'weird'. i also wake up to a dry throat and a bit of a grunty voice. Does this mean i am not performing my vocals correctly or is it just over use in rehearsal? the reason i ask is i have found over the past 6 months, my mid cleans seem to be hit or miss when i go to produce the vocal. It sometimes is just air, or sometimes very squeaky. Other times its fine, but i really have to focus to produce the vocal, yet much higher cleans i hit with ease, literally no strain or trying involved. Any insight id be really grateful for my dude
I'm doing fry but I can't make a loud sound can you teach me how
17 min video on screaming? I'm so hyped
Your golden pipes are a gift to humanity
I've commented saying this, before, but, I'll say it, again: I have progressed soooo much with my voice because of your videos. I mainly only did lows cuz fry screams just seemed intimidating to me lol. 6 months later, I'm mixxing gutterals, fry screams, false chord screams and gloterrals. Thank you. I still have lots of practice ahead of me, but, you clarified sooo much for me.
It’s amazing how effortlessly you produce these harsh vocals. Quite impressive. I’m 43, and have been trying to learn this for years. I have yet to unlock the secret. Poopie.
David your the reason I'm improving my vocals and I have to thank you for putting these videos out where I can understand and learn easier for me to get my vocals better and my band is also very thankful for you keep teaching the new generation the art of metal vocals
OMGGG total YES on the challenges of being a long-time singer trying to learn screaming. You have to unlearn about 60% of the “rules” you’ve internalized for years or even decades! I keep ending up with a shout-sing when I mean to just scream.
Donde has estado todo este tiempo, siempre te e necesitado. Grande!!!
That final point about high distortions has been bugging me FOREVER. Thanks so much for this video😊
15:08 blew my mind...
Just starting out screaming, wondering the best course to take vocals from starting out just doing the "mahhhh" false chord to actual lyrics. I feel I can hold an open scream pretty well, but trying a sentence with any sort of longevity is super challenging. Thank you so much, your work and dedication to this is so amazing.
i know i’m not him BUT i’ll tell you how i did it and you can take it from there!
when i could comfortably activate false chord i tried talking and applying it.
found stuff that was a bit lower singing/speaking wise such as rammstein
and then started using false chord and then talking the lyrics instead of singing.
you want to be as loosey goosey as possible. barely any effort at all in it just enough push in the stomach to get distortion and almost zero tightness in the throat. then add a bit of talking and go from there.
i found my natural end to be lower like bozeman.
then just gradually add power
whenever i feel like my screams are getting slightly painful i reset myself and go back to the talking and less effort
Just find your own voice. I’m been doing vocals for a while and it took time to find the range I was comfortable with. I have a raspy death metal range like Jeff Walker of Carcass.
Thank you for providing proper tools to safely scream. Also the trouble shooting tips are invaluable. Cheers!
Thanks for watching! Love being able to help so many people have better relationships with their voices!
Merci David🤘
Been wanting to learn to scream for years but never knew how to learn. You're videos are the clearest and most informative way of learning how to scream I have seen on YT. Thank you and please keep making videos 🤘
This came out at the most perfect time, I was just practicing yesterday and wondered why sometimes I’ll get a sharp pain in my head after a vocal thank you!
Lack of oxygen
That was awesome! Can't wait for the next one🤘
Great video! Excited for more of this series. It never hurts to learn more about my vocals, especially while just hitting that point of figuring them out!
Thank you for your amazing contribution to the community! Really in depth explanation and techniques!✨🙏🔥🤘
this is gold and so are you. thank you
This should be on TED Talk😊
Hi David, love you and your videos❤, i‘ve got a question, how can i make a progress from using too much air while achieving the false chord screams?
How do you range higher pitched with your scream if it’s naturally low
Thank you, Death Metal Jesus for blessing us with your boundless knowledge 🙏
Saw the video and immediately was like “I hope he answered my question!” …First one 😏
Thank you for answering me!
Awesome, thanks for answering my question! I will try to implement your advice :)
I love your content! Been really wanting to get into the Johnny Booth style screams more- how would you break that technique down and what exercises would you recommend for that?
Dude thank you so much this is so helpful
13:26 isn't that mixed voice?
yeah I think it is, and that's why you can't get it super low (without doing a hybrid scream)
I swear I see this man everytime I go to a concert idk if it’s just my mind or what but last time I saw him was at the Middle East idk if he was with ingested or Sanguisugabogg but he was there
We were working the Ingested show! 😁
Started EXACTLY how i thought it would. 😅
Thats last 2 question is exactly what hapoen to me right now... i just a casual singer, just enjoy to sing on my way and on the way home, but i really want to able to sing with distortion so i able to sing LinkinPark songs better..
In an ever expanding and rapidly innovating extreme metal vocal environment, would you recommend at all people be on par with the ‘greats’ as of now or would you hope the scene gradually progresses so all can do what the ‘greats’ do now and then some? Examples are: Justin Bonitz, Dickie Allen, Ben Duerr, Greg Gilbert etc
Oh I have a question, how do you do a fry scream in your chest resonance? I can do it in my falsetto but it's very stiff in terms of range.
David, can you PLEEEEEZ explain how Eric from I Prevail is able to have such an intense fry scream? Even live he sounds amazing
I’ve been trying fry screaming for a couple of weeks, and I can get the basic fry sound, but I find it very difficult to project it without straining and eventually hurting my throat.
Hey David! When I was born my tongue bridle (the thing that connects the tongue to the bottom of the mouth) was not cut, and it limits my ability to manipulate the tongue, especially with open mouth. For example I cant touch the roof of my mouth with the tip of my tongue while my mouth is wide open, and I cant stick out the tongue further than 2-3 cm from my teeth. And so it somewhat affects my ability to shape the tone of my screams. I still can do tunnel throat and goblin thing, but my low screams both FC and fry are feeling a bit weird and underpowered. I was wondering if you have ever had experience with someone like me? If so if there's any advice you can give on how to go around it? Thank you!
Hey David, I have a question. I’ve come across the band named “Portal,” and I have fallen in love the band, but I really want to know how to do the vocals of the lead singer. Could you do a video on that? And check out the band, it’s really good music.
can someone help me
its about 3 years that im doing metal vocals
but its about 1 month that i feel gag reflex during doing vocals
idk i smoke cig a lot maybe its cuz of that idk can someone help?
man screw the vocal stuff , drop the hair care routine
😂😂
😂 yeah even the bun got me like “damn he got some good hair!”
Yooo I can co-sign this request! Yo shit lookin real luxurious around here!
@@Codycreek 😂
Dudes with gorgeous hair prolly don't do shit to it. Prolly why it's usually so healthy looking. Unlike most girls that straighten, curl it, blow dry it and put all kinda products in their hair ruining it's health
I haven't done intense vocals for a good mi ute and i got interested in it again. I noticed right off the back i can sound more like corpse grinder from cannibal corpse. But im trying to work on a sound more like slaughter to prevail, lorna shore, white chapel, infant Annihilator sound. When i try to practice it soumds more raspy than fry or guterals.
can you guess what kind of scream from Bert Poncet of chunk No captain Chunk?
his projection from singing to scream is awesome
My type of screams are a mix of belting and fry and are quite similar to Anders Fridén from In Flames and i have a difficult time to reach low growls using that teqnique. Do you got any tips for me?
Thanks so much for this! 😄
🙏🏽🙏🏽
how about a hybrid scream tutorial?
I want to improve my mids
Yo David, I have a question about false chord screaming. I'm not practicing them very long, and also not often. When combining the normal singing voice, and the false chord, it starts hurting really fast, I guess because of vocal chords working same time. Is this "normal" as a person who is not screaming for a long time, or is it the wrong technique ?
I love you content man, it would be incredible if you can release a video explaining how Mizmor does those amazing vocals
Thank you so much! I've been practicing simplifying, not changing pitch or the position of my throat too much once I lock onto a nice fry. I think I was trying to do too much too soon without realizing it. My fav band is In Flames, and sometimes I confused the melody track and the scream track, thinking the scream line is more complex than it is. Anyway, thanks so much, David!
So, I've been working with this idea of not letting the singing track of the music I practice to suck me into trying to copy the melody with screaming. I'm learning(it seems to me currently) that you need to almost create a scream "harmony" line, because the mouth shapes for singing are so different from those of screaming. Ironically, I'm having more success practicing screaming along to singing songs than trying to scream to scream songs. Breakthrough. 🤘
reminds me of how many modern bands record both cleans and harsh vocals for a chorus so it sounds like screams have melody
@@arbuznazarov9326 exactly! It's confusing while learning.
Love your videos! How would you describe what Liam in Cancer Bats is doing in Lucifer’s Rocking Chair? I think it sounds amazing and want to work on that kind of tone and scream-sing, but it’s hard to tell the different kinds of metal vocals.
How many times a day you should practice your screaming before doing covers?
Thank you for these q and a's!! It seems a lot of issues stem from using too much air, how do you control your air flow usage? I think I use more than I need to
We have a few videos here that may help and then full courses on each of this things as well:
False cord vs fry screams:
ruclips.net/video/rvQmyYR2k9Y/видео.html
Breathing for metal vocals:
ruclips.net/video/Wj-gqIPy_44/видео.html
Power ≠ tone:
ruclips.net/video/0cxP1gt8Rx0/видео.html
To learn more about our courses: extremevocalinstitute.com/evi-now
i have the problem while trying to fry that my fry kinda breaks into a clean high note that just kinda sounds like a cicken dying. also usually after every scream i feel like i have to breathe out heavily. is that a sign for anything specific im doing wrong and how can i get my fry to be more consistent?
Great video. Thank you very much. Can you provide a tutorial on how to fry scream with good techniques?
Here’s our playlist on fry scream: ruclips.net/p/PLpztTMU7owfdkNd-9fk9f8CfHmBHKiptT
Question: I (kind of) can mix the scream with notes on different level in chest and head registers. But when I am trying to scream in mixed register (E4 - B4) everything breaks apart, the scream become uncompressed and the note jumps high up and becomes very light and almost unhearable. I tried to add more force or control while going up, but then I just cannot go higher the note is stuck in E4-F4.
Hi David, been a fan of yours for about a year now. I started my heavy vocals journey back in 2009 by singing along with 5FDP "Way of the Fist" album. Since then, I've taken a lot of your advice on the channel and applied them to my singing.
That said, one thing still eludes me. When I try and aim high, especially on fry screams, I get a harsh gag reflex. It's caused me to vomit from doing covers of Mudvayne's "IMN" and pretty much every Lorna Shore song. Any idea what causes that reflex and what steps can I take to avoid it or overcome it?
Thanks for the information and I look forward to a part 2.
Hmm... Maybe get your tonsils Cudi?
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH thank you !
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching 😁
Is it important to learn the basics of singing in order to scream properly? Can it help in the long run? You said being a trained singer can impede the learning process a little bit, and it made me curious about the opposite effect.
No you don’t. Through trial and error you will find your range.
alright so to re iterate the question that wasn't answered, do you use less or more CONSTRICTION for fry vocals? The question is not about projection lol we (or I) know the difference. The big question here, is do you need to clamp down as hard (ie, constrict more) to make fry vocals work. Because I'm sure this dude has the same issue I do, false chord is super easy, not much constriction. But fry seems to only work when I constrict it so much that it's hard to project properly. When I project I have to loosen up, which stops the distortion. If you watch videos of people screaming through a throat camera, you see that for fry vocals they're almost completely closed up, and constricted in an asymmetrical way. THAT is the tenant of the question, I believe. And man, it was the first time ever in one of these I was like "oh, oh, yes, please tell me, finally!" and then we get hit with projection tips instead haha. I love you and your channel, but c'mon mannn please don't start up the whole "answer the wrong question" thing like so many others do. I love you BECAUSE you are so in depth, but this is one thing I've still never ever seen someone discuss. They always just say "fry distort, then project." But when I project it ALL falls apart. The heel bounce thing helped a bit, but I still can't do fry's at all haha. The science of false chord is pretty straight forward, but no one seems to be able to explain fry screams to me...
In relation to oxygen control and throat tension, how will we know we’re using our “golden spot” of both? I’ve tried to utilize more oxygen with less tension and I would either cough or dry out quickly and when I do the opposite (less air higher tension) I begin to sort of Lowkey sound more like a burp. I’m a heavy smoker but used to be a front man before all the smoking and could still never hit the pitches I wanted.
What do vocalist do when they get sick on tour? Becuase when I get sick it seems like I can't do a proper safe false cord scream.
I’ve noticed that I tend to lose my ability to scream if it’s been a little bit (usually a day or two) between practicing. What’s the ideal time I should be practicing daily/weekly to keep progressing but not over do it?
I can do a song with no issue. BUT after that if I try to do another song my fry scream starts to go away or fade in & out. I do keep myself well hydrated and I make sure to not PUSH to get the sound. Is this an endurance issue? Will this build over time and get better? Let me know and thank you Dave!😊
This video was already posted 3 months ago but I would really appreciate it if you could answer this question. When singing with harsh vocals (being a new singer in this area) sometimes I feel an itch in my throat, without compression, simply doing basic false chords, it doesn't hurt or anything like that, it's just literally an itch, a tickle, and I simply cough to relieve it, is this normal at first or am I using the technique wrong?
My type of screams are a mix of belting and fry and are quite similar to Anders Fridén from In Flames and i have a difficult time to reach low growls using that teqnique. Do you got any tips for me?
In the beginning I thought I was going through puberty twice 😂
I can sing with pretty heavy grit comfortably, and picked up false cord very quickly, but I'm having trouble with fry. I feel like I'm close but it still comes out kind of thin and weak, like my own body is holding me back from really projecting it. Is there a technique for learning fry by starting with grit, like if you were singing AC/DC or Guns n Roses?
Ive been screaming for almost a year now and feel like im kinda stuck. Do you have any advise on bejng able to grow my range and maybe be able to swich cleanly between false cord, fry, pitched screams, and singing
I have figured out how to basically scream and sing but a I cannot figure out how to get my clean voice to sound more aggressive and distorted would you have any advice on learning that?
I need some advice: when I try do the false chord scream, I always do throat bass (some time ago, I do beatbox and learned throat bass first and do it "automatically") how can I solve this?
Hey I’m 13 years old and just starting out screaming and just wanted to see if you have any advice for progressing
Wait, I get that headache too. Am I essentially choking myself out???
every time i do a high fry or a false cord scream it hurts, i can't seem to figure out why... sometimes they click in very well however most of the time it doesn't... can you suggest some tips?
I have a decently loud fry scream in person but when I record for a song it sounds quiet and not powerful
why do i feel scratchy pain when false chord screaming and fry screaming? what can the reasons be? I did vocals for about 2 years and still get discomfort every session.
Hey David, could you go over Scarlxrd on how he rap screams and sometimes even does it so fast? A great song example that even features Ghostemane is “MAR” you could search up on here, would mean the world to me if you could thanks 🙏🏽
I meditate,for getting less aggessions,so really,with mudras,without 🕉️...should I maybe do mantra for a little bit different than "normal" Training dry?
Ah, I know....FRY
Will i be able to have a 1 on 1 session with you if i buy the course? I really need to figure out where my false chord pain is coming from and how to find balance.
Private lessons and our online courses are separate. If you’re interested in private lessons with David you can fill out the form here for more info about rates and scheduling: extremevocalinstitute.com/private-lessons
Normally I can easily tell if I am doing false chord or fry, but when I go particularly high, they start to feel identical no matter which one I start with. How can I distinguish between them? This tends to cause me some strain because I feel like I start to mix when I don't intend to
How can I know if I'm screaming correctly? I can't tell if I'm doing it the right way especially because it doesn't sound quite like all the videos I watch.
Is it actually dangerous to do inhale screams? My person problem is that i can't do fry screams, regardless of how often I try to do them. It's just much easier to do inhales for me and I honestly don't feel like it hurts oder endangers my vocal chords. At first, when I started inhale screaming, it actually tensed up as I tried to get louder, yet now I don't have to try as hard and it doesn't feel or look like i actually tense up. Is it safe to go on with inhales?
Dear friend, I asked you a question on the stream and said that for 2 years I have been trying to cure hypotonic dysphonia and so far I have not been very successful. Of course there are small successes, but I still can't sing and scream, but I can talk. I have a metal band and I'm the vocalist there. We recorded the entire 1st album with hypotonic dysphonia and it was hell, when I wrote vocals I felt a severe sore throat on the right, in the region of muscles and ligaments and nerves. I have been doing vocals since 2015, but since 2017 I have been screaming so hard and tight. Once I already lost my voice in 2019, but in 6 months I completely recovered. Now I lost my voice in October 2021 at a rehearsal with a group and still have not recovered. A huge number of procedures were done on the throat and voice and a lot of medicines were drunk. Are there any other tips and tricks to quickly heal my dysphonia at the level of muscles, nerves and ligaments? I am 24 years old, my name is Alexander. I am attaching a video for you so that you can understand exactly how I screamed all these years, for complete clarity of the picture. My varch phoniatrist said that this technique kills the voice and I did it in vain. Here is a link to the vocals that I used all these years and at the last rehearsal where I lost my voice ruclips.net/video/ypGI0P1Gg2s/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/OBMg8s-NaWs/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/XlUCgHAG-8c/видео.html
I beg you, help me with my question, if there is such an opportunity, I really want to return to vocals, I recorded a lot of covers on RUclips, I have an audience on my channel, that's all I have in my life, I'm so I really want to return it. and last but not least, you can scream with hypotonic muscular type dysphonia if you do it right, that is, the way you show and teach us for a long time, I have watched all your videos and I know how to use false ligaments and even tried to do it when I have dysphonia but it caused a sore throat. I tried growl like Alex Terrible do from Slaughter to prevail. Growl sounds like this with my vocal damage ruclips.net/user/shorts-P6drJzePyM
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Hi there!
As David mentioned in the stream, since this is an instance where you’ve been injured and diagnosed by a doctor to have had vocal damage, he cannot provide any suggestions for you without working with you in a one-on-one scenario. It would not be appropriate for him to try to give you tips for how to improve your situation online. Your situation is specific to you and without him knowing the extensive medical history and being able to hear you in real time, anything that he would suggest could potentially cause more harm than good and that would make us liable for any further injuries that you sustain. We are not willing to put ourselves in that situation and we want what’s best for you too! This will be the stance with any reputable vocal coach.
If you are interested in taking lessons with David, feel free to fill out the form on our website: extremevocalinstitute.com/private-lessons.
If you don’t opt to work with him we totally understand and we hope that you’re able to find your scream again!
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I do a thing when I do pig squeals where I put the tip of my tongue on top of that hilly part behind my top teeth I was wondering if anyone else does
У тебя крутые волосы!
Thanks! 😁
I have an issue when It comes to sneezing where sometimes it feels like a harsh glottal attack. It's hard for me to control my sneezes to not get this harsh sensation after. Do you know how to deal with this?
One thing I don't see a lot of explanation is how to keep the false chord technique from sounding like Scooby Doo.
new Renesans when?
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The biggest problem i have is getting volume. I think i scream pretty good low and high, but its like a whisper 😅. I struggle trying to get that projection? Then other times i end up coughing my lungs out 😂. I think it stems from me always being a very quiet person and not understanding exactly how to do that, or perhaps making it harder than it actually is.
Okay, hear me out...
Get a job at Chick-fil-A. I used to not be able to talk very loud, but working there (very busy location) made me able to be heard literally anywhere (for better or for worse).
how do you achieve a well balanced false chord scream with no pain ?
I am having the same trouble. Sometimes, there is no pain at all, but there are times where i'm doing the exactly same thing and it feels like claws are scratching my throat
What are some good vocal warm ups?
We have a playlist here: ruclips.net/p/PLpztTMU7owfdmUYkmNiB5QxLbGiy8x-zj
Irritiations only when im ill,dont warm up,try to get to high ,or dont Stop awhem it feels "scratchy" I mess my range Later,,and tell ypu
Sry for Bad english isnt my mameloshn
How do you know when you're screaming, when you haven't been doing it right, when you have damage or irreversible damage. Is that a thing? Because I know after a night of singing along with Slipknot and Slaughter to Prevail, next day, my voice is gone. Lol
My false cord scream sounds rorbotic, even with support, and I don't know why.
how do I scream like beginner level I want to start to make metal music and impress my friends😅
How do i scream like David Stephens from we came as romans.
if I hold my false cord scream for too long I might experience pain in the right part of my ribs, my liver possibly?, I know that the obvious solution would be just to not do it for that long but I'm afraid if I ever do live vocals something could go wrong
How long is “too long”? Do you mean like one consecutive scream? That’ll affect the kind of answer David gives you!
@@rileedubilo8145 oh yeah, I mean like one long scream, thank you
Oh lord hello metal vocals daddy ❤ holly shit he's so beautiful 😍
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I have decent screams i just have poor breath support
Here’s a video that may help: ruclips.net/video/Wj-gqIPy_44/видео.html
8:26 What in the fuck
How to not let your voice deteriorate to the point where u sound like Donald Duck/spongebob by the end of ur set live?