I think you underrated Soul Partition, the fact that it can hit any nonland permanent makes it super versatile. You can also cast it on your own stuff to do them again, Dockside is the most obvious example, and you don't have to pay the extra 2 yourself.
I don’t really play CEDH, but wanted to ask if Thorn Mammoth + Commander’s Plate ever comes up as a potential line in Kinnan lists. Seems sweet, but maybe a little too cute.
Alchemist retrieval would see zero play if the card actually worked the way you both think. The card does make lists. At 3 mana.. it would most def not. It’s an either clause. It’s 2 mana bounce or hit your own thing for 1. It’s deece.
Where’s magic missles and lithomatic barrage? Such great answers to all the value pieces on the board. And also mystic subdual/eaten by piranhas/witness protection/kenriths transformation. All these cards completely shut down commanders key pieces they can’t recast them, they are stuck until they find and answer. The amount of times people have wasted tutors to find answers to remove these to unlock ob nixilus, kennen, sissay etc. using a tutor--> then using removal takes time and resources and they use those key resources to find answers to a dumb problem vs wincons. Also a classic a little more expensive to cast but highly effective is oubliette
I think you underrated Soul Partition, the fact that it can hit any nonland permanent makes it super versatile. You can also cast it on your own stuff to do them again, Dockside is the most obvious example, and you don't have to pay the extra 2 yourself.
You're definitely right! We were underestimating it at first
I don’t really play CEDH, but wanted to ask if Thorn Mammoth + Commander’s Plate ever comes up as a potential line in Kinnan lists. Seems sweet, but maybe a little too cute.
Definitely seems very cute. It feels better in high power or casual kinnan lists, since cEDH decks have very much stock cards you want to include.
Alchemist retrieval would see zero play if the card actually worked the way you both think.
The card does make lists. At 3 mana.. it would most def not.
It’s an either clause. It’s 2 mana bounce or hit your own thing for 1.
It’s deece.
you are absolutely right, sorry about that. we really need to work on taking our time when reading cards!
Common Cleave isn't that confusing..
Where’s magic missles and lithomatic barrage? Such great answers to all the value pieces on the board. And also mystic subdual/eaten by piranhas/witness protection/kenriths transformation. All these cards completely shut down commanders key pieces they can’t recast them, they are stuck until they find and answer. The amount of times people have wasted tutors to find answers to remove these to unlock ob nixilus, kennen, sissay etc. using a tutor--> then using removal takes time and resources and they use those key resources to find answers to a dumb problem vs wincons.
Also a classic a little more expensive to cast but highly effective is oubliette
these are great points! sorry we missed those
youre definitely right about these, we missed more than we had initially thought. the auras are all very solid effects!
Bowmasters snubbed