The Supreme Court approved of something called citizens united which recognizes corporations as human beings, thus allowing them to donate as much money as they want to politicians. So that line about corporations being people hits really hard 😢
Citizens united determined that political donations were a form of speech. The idea is that since verbal support of something is protected by the First Amendment, monetary support is also protected. So long as the donors do not conspire with the campaign, they can donate as much as they like through PACs and SuperPACs because the court views their money as a form of speech
I think the idea is that companies are allowed to fund adds in support of political campaigns as much as they please as long as they don't cooperate with the campaign itself, or at least as long as cooperation can't be proved.
With chainsaw so mighty! The tree fell down so brightly! It’s suffering has ended It’s death no longer suspended The trees cried out free! Thank god no more jimmy!
Going back to the original story, I think Seuss was trying to make a separate point about responsibility and the like, through the modus of trees, not one particularly about capitalism, and environmentalism. So an obvious solution like what logging companies do irl would've messed with the intended message. But I agree, if environmentalism was the true aim, it should have brought up points like that. Although they do mention in the cartoon how long it takes to grow truffula trees. 10 months just to germinate, and many many years after that just to grow a bit, so creating massive orchards would've taken a long time especially with how quickly thneed corp. expanded from nothing.
@@robertwagonschutz777 true, though there are many instances of capitalist prefering short term profits to mid and long term profitability. It's more of a metaphor.
FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW TREES WORK... Yes, trees can grow back, but it takes decades for them to do so. Not to mention the graphic change in enviorment their absence can leave.
DisneyKidsFOREVER and they do keep a local environment free of massive runoff, and absorb pollution. But a majority of our O2 comes from good ol' algae! And there isn't a regulation on that (I mean, most of it is out of our way so we don't touch it, but still) I find that clip oddly concerning as a conservative
It really depends on the type of tree, some only take a year or two to grow. Lumber and paper industries have actually created more forest then they've destroyed by using trees that grow quickly. The real problem is when big companies clear out already established forest to make room for factories or plantations.
+HunterTheCyborg// HunterHTC I've recently heard of this new house building alternative to wood called stone! I guess it's one of the trends those weird hipster stoneage kids like to follow. But to be honest, it's too futuristic for my taste
Replacing a forest with different species of growth affects the ecology of the local area. Different animals are bound to spring up with a new systemic homeostasis~
@@CyanWatercress4 Maybe on a world wide stage since the government heavily subsidies the production of processes food and bio fuels resulting in the destruction of the rainforest for example but not in the developed world such as the US or Europe. Planting a tree costs a fraction of a fraction of what they make as a profit out of the wood, replanting results in a huge long-term profit and it would be financially brain dead to not do it - which is why, like I said, the wood industry plants the mist trees and that is a fact. The wood industry does basically the same as the average farmer, planting and harvesting. More than half the forest land in the U.S is owned and managed by about 11 million private forest owners. Private forest lands provided 89% of the domestically produced wood and paper products in 2017. The income landowners receive for trees grown on their land encourages them to maintain, sustainably manage and renew this valuable resource. At the same time the net forest area in the U.S. has been stable since the early 1900s and increased by about 2% from 752 million to 765 million acres between 2007 and 2017. Net volume of growing stock increased by more than 5% over the same period.
Unfortunately capitalism isn't great at long term planning. Farms take capital to set up and it's more profitable to exhaust a resource, make a killing as it becomes rare, then move onto the next thing.
Kid: Wait, wait, cant you make a national park and have thousands of tourists spent their money- Lorax: Now Now, stop right at money, you just made me thousands of dollars richer.
I didn't know what politics were when I first watched this as a kid I just thought this was funny "ha ha Lorax is evil now!" Crazy to see how batshit crazy politics have gotten
Lorax grew up, went to Harvard Business School, graduated with honors, started up Stratton Oakmont with The Wolf of Wall Street, got rich, ran for Senate and now he's here. I don't know if I'm proud.
I'm just a random commenter and i say... Canada makes a nice bit of money, eh? That's beceause they cut trees, but now you must ask: Why are there so many trees there, if they all get the axe? Well my friend, that's to do with legislations. They benefit the forest, and also corporations. For every tree cut, two more are planted. That's to make sure the forests don't get blanted. And then we see something very nice. They managed to keep forests healthy, despite all the ice. Truly, it is possible now. To make money and still say "wow". You see my friends, corporations aren't crazy. It's the government that's sometimes a bit lazy. I salute you now, as i am out of rhymes. And whatever you do, remember to look back at the old times.
It sorta would, since they could reuse area rather then go on to other areas. It could atleast cover some demand, slowing the damage caused. So while not entirely solved, it bides more time.
@@bloodstormwolf9512 the truffula tree takes 10 months to germinate, 10 years to become a sapling and another 10 years to be fully grown, If we assume its like maybe like 800 trees (or whatever you’d like to think), every 800 thneeds sold would be 20 years and 10 months waiting for a new tree to replace it
He also ran in 2012, but didn't get far. He started the Birther Movement (the people who claimed Obama wasn't born in America) and then he dropped out before the nominations.
@@TheReasonableSkepticist no he's not really he's not even a smart business man, if he was he would of saved a good portion of the trees so they could make more trees etc.
GREEDY people that is. Companies are run and managed by people, those people want money, hence corporations behave like bullying, greedy people trying to get as much money as they can while keeping it from others. Because that’s who they’re run by, so it’s how they behave.
Honestly I don't understand how people can fall perfectly into the outline of either party. Conservatism makes sense on some issues. Liberalism makes sense on some issues. If we would agree to take the best of each party, we could do truly great things.
Jim Bob Compromise is only attainable when the two parties either want the same thing, or have more in common than they don't. With American Politics, this is NOT the case.
liberalism and conservatism are only two faces of the same system. both act within the framework of capitalism and both are comparatively right wing if you compare it to other political positions (ie reformism/social democracy or various versions of socialism): in the 30s both viewpoints showed themselves as more willing to side with fascism in europe than with the left (notably in spain). so yes there's plenty of room for compromises between the two, but to say that's because they both have good ideas is where I have to depart with you.
+Jim Bob Spot on, couldn't agree more! Too bad there's no third party to highlight this problem. - I visualize someone saying, "hey, do you like blue or red?" They both have their ups and downs. It's hard to make a defining choice over who the lesser of two evils is. Voting in this system is fucked, there seems to be no purpose. - Why not implement a system where you show up, they give you a sheet, it has the top 30 important issues. You then check either "yes", "no", or "abstain" on each topic from top to bottom. Then you slide it into a ballot box. - I just hate this whole "he said this" "Oh yeah? Well HE said this!" The back and forth of politics is just sad, it's hard to get into. I have a feeling most people vote because they feel very strongly on one or two subjects and that makes them "left" or "right". Or there are others who don't want to let their family down so they just go with the flow. And finally, there are those who abstain from voting all together.
deadass not how it happens irl. supplies are contracted out, and the suppliers are the ones who replenish things, we dont exactly clear cut forests and leave nothing behind in forestry. and it's kinda a dumb idea that doesnt apply to life that capitalism, the free market which regulates itself to keep going would cause a supply shortage where it would stop total production of basic supplies.
You know the biggest threat to trees aren't loggers right? With loggers, they plant more trees to replace what they took, or use paper farms, or in easier terms have farmers grow trees in order to sell it for paper. Now the real threat would be farming actually, mostly for raising domestic animals.
YESSSS!!!! You are so right!!!! Animal agriculture (meat, dairy, egg, etc. Industries) contribute to 91% of Amazon rainforest destruction. Animal agriculture also contributes to 51% of all greenhouse gas emissions. All transportions (cars, airplanes, trains, etc) only contribute 13%.
are you sure? I dont know if they pushed it or not, or even if a regulation even exists. but I know the trees cut down now are 3rd and even 4th growth. and I cant imagine a regulation being passed for logging 150 years ago
because they took all the trees, and put them in a tree museum. And people had to pay a dollar and a half to see them. they took all the trees and put in a parking lot... lol.
The biggest threat to trees is fire, and big logging companies are among the biggest contributors to fire danger, especially in old-growth forest. This is true in the U.S. anyway.
Cardi Jey ??? Your point is... what exactly? Sure they cut down football fields. Then they promptly plant new trees right where they cut. Kind of like a farmer. A farmer harvests his corn, but he knows he'll run out, so once the harvest is over, he plants more corn for next year.
oh nono, here in the us, or in europe, that is the case. Our wood is from preserved areas where they keep a balance, but if it comes to wood from asia, africa and south america, they chop everything down without regrets and vision for the future. That's why i said rainforest. But we are not totally innocent, we buy that stuff.
Cardi Jey Ah. It seems like a pretty bad business plan from those companies then. They'll run out of both product and the ability to plant more. Are you sure that none of them are doing that over there? I really thought I saw something about one of the bigger, US logging companies replanting even in the rain forests.
Oh God ! Was the prophecy true? Has the web revealed the one chosen? Hiding I have to because in time a few Mercy won't shows for the children's man! (Sorry for bad english)
Capitalism would incentivize him to replant the trees, a low time preference is what capitalism creates, it incentivizes sustainable practices like for instance: replanting the trees; this is what lumber companies do because it leads to future prosperity and their customers continue to support their practices with their dollar. After all money is speech.
@@RandomRothbardianThat is a naive and utterly theoretical idea without any ties to reality. Capitalism, if anything, incentivizes high time preference over everything, as it has been researched that too much money breaks one's psyche if it wasn't already, considering that the person already became wealthy through business instead of actual skills. The wealthy are just dictators who didn't want to become politicians.
@@RandomRothbardian Ideally, at least, but The Lorax is about a capitalist who was so focused on the present, he couldn't even be bothered to think about his own future.
I mean, capitalism does profit off the destruction of the environment, whilst socialism will maintain trees for the good of all. Capitalism prefers profit; socialism good for all. Social Democracy may try to combine both, but eco-socialism is the only way to save the environment. There's no surprise to be found here.
jwan besande good luck on your journey young comment, one day you will be needed, keep in earshot non-political comment you will be called upon and on that day you will transcend all expectations
I feel that if the Lorax would want to continue his profit, he would plant multiple plots of thneeds that would be harvested at different times then replanted to make sure his profits continue to come in instead of blindly harvesting every tree in a forest.
If you were to do that you would risk getting out produced by a competitor who's willing to cut down trees for short term profit therefore the capitalist free market incentive creates long term environmental problems
@sol1d gh0st No, you don't. You have made fabulous profit in the short term, which happens to also be your career. Long term would benefit people who follow you, but not necessarily you.
This is actually what we do. Do you think loggers just take and take with no replanting. One problem is that a lot of forest just becomes a farm and not a habitat. There are plenty of trees in the world, just not the natural kind of variety or lifespan anymore. Like how you can get an apple almost anywhere at anytime these days but only a few varieties (at most stores)
@@milkchugger17ACTUALLY,you can't tell wich one is right because in large part is determined by your personality wich means that sometimes the liberal is right and sometime the conservatives are correct. That's why we need both of them to have a political discussion so that our soceity is functioning
@@misterling645 Lol. Conservatives already proved themselves as Trump enablers and have officially sold their soul to the devil. Only the Lincoln project has redeemed themselves.
As hilarious as this is, and as much as I despise the lobbyists and bureaucrats that run this country, the video has the same flaw that the original story had. A smart business owner would have ensured the survival of the trees so that he would always have the resources to make more thneeds. It would have been in everyone's best interest to preserve them. Of course, that wasn't the main message of the story, so it's alright
Actually, businesses have an incentive to effectively rape the land because the cost of it is split evenly among everyone, so while it's huge in total, it's low for the corporation. Meanwhile the benefit of it is nothing for the people, but big for the corporation. So this destruction is worth it for the corporation but not for everyone in total.
@@mikeydaversa1760 A small family business would. But stock traders don't care about the long term. They want fast profits yesterday and once the resources are gone they have already liquidated and moved on. And big corporations just see value in scarcity, because if you control all that is left then you can put whatever price you want. Which is why you need incentives and regulations for small, sustainable business to thrive.
Kristian Jörgensen but if you just controlled the resource, like the kid controls the forest in the video, then you could ensure those fast profits far into the future and ride the train until JUST before the wheels fall off. That’s by far the most profitable plan
Logging Regulations: Replant for every chopped,cutted,and bulldozed trees. No burning the trees. Dynamite needs to be handled carefully. Be fair to the competitions. No Pollution. No Littering.
VeRGoGaming 891 Nah, I'm pretty educated, that's why I know that Trump uses illegals to build his towers and plans on using them to build the wall (and making them pay for it).
Blurry Birb well at least he would be employing immigrants, unlike leftists who want them financially dependent on state welfare provided by tax payers money.
I hate that people don’t get the point of this. It isn’t just about trees. It’s about our world as a whole. Who would you rather protect: wealthy politicians, corporations and billionaires who don’t give a rats as abt you or your own neighbors, friends, children, and partners who actually want to help? If that isn’t simple to you then idk what to tell you. You are too far gone. But if it’s about your religion or faith let me remind you to love thy neighbor and not thy billionaire. Jesus hated the rich. Jesus would hate Trump.
@@leguman5289 and why is that? hes not gonna save the trees, air, ground, or sea. wanting to remove pollution regulations and do things like leave the paris accord and pull incentives for ev's wont help any part of our world
***** Banana's are a natural mutation, and are wiped out easily. The banana that was commonly eaten from the 1920's to the 1950's was nearly driven to extinction because of lack of genetic variance, and the banana we eat today faces the same threat.
***** Not to be rude but the tragedy of commons is a story promoting private enterprise. Essentially, the tragedy comes from the fact that since no ONE person owned the land, the collective could not bother to maintain it's upkeep. Rather, they kept using it and using it until there was nothing left where as if it had been privately owned, the owner would have stepped in. It's a good lesson but not exactly applicable in this sense as private ownership and big business are now the cause for the tragedy. When everyone owns something, people may be less inclined to clean it up (much like your roommate(s) despite that everyone would benefit from clean dishes, vacuumed rugs, etc.). However, when it is privately owned for the sake of profit and nothing else, the owners may (as shown through experience) will only care about the profit here and now. It's not a collective issue but a greed issue. When is enough enough and what will we sacrifice for it. And that's all of us, even the majority who support these institutions for a few dollars more. But that leads us to low wages and the like which stem for the previous problem of big business who outsources. ...I did not mean for this post to be so long and....rude isn't the right word...preachy maybe? Sorry.
ThatOneAccount931 The tragedy of the commons happens under communism, however, there is a way to get all the benefits of communism and capitalism without the downfall of either. It's called co-operative enterprise. It's a business model where every worker of particular business enterprise shares ownership of said business. All the workers vote on their wages, and on how to run the business. All the money that in a private enterprise would become the private money of the Capitalist, now is the pooled money of that whole business. Instead of blindly obeying orders and competing with employees for promotions, everyone would be able to freely discuss and debate about how things should be run, and there would be a work environment of community and cooperation and autonomy. Co-operative enterprise would be able to be conscientious of externalities such as how the environment is being effected by their business practices because unlike in a competitive economy where you have to compete at all costs just to achieve bottom line profit needed to survive as a business, a co-operative enterprise cooperates with everyone, and therefore has time to step back and discuss and be conscious of externalities. And the tragedy of the commons is avoided with this model since free riders would be getting a share of money that could be spread among the rest of you, you would have an economic incentive to fire free riders, meaning people would have an incentive not to be free riders themselves. And unlike communism, co-operative enterprise still respects personal property, so you could wake up in your private home, put on your private clothes, eat some of your private food for breakfast and drink some of your coffee and if it helps you work smoke a bowl of some good sativa and then drive your private car to a workplace that you co-operatively own and run with all of your co-workers. And there are different models of co-op, different models work better for different businesses. Some are a direct democracy, some elect managers every so often in elections (and usually vote for them to have slightly higher pay as an economic incentive to do well), some elect work councils, whatever works.
***** I do not want to be rude or come across crass but you are wrong. I am a Political Science major and an Economics minor, the Tragedy of Commons stems from an ACTUAL English event in which an edict allowed local farmers to use the "common land". These farmers, acting as rational individuals, chose to have their cows and sheep overgraze, thus having them grow fatter and more profitable. And as everyone acted in their own self interest and rationally, it over extended the commons to a point in where the land was unusable. And as far as I was taught, if someone were to own that land and see it was becoming unusable, they would step in and stop it. When you own something, you take better care of it. It's a fact. How many people go to parties and don't care about the mess they make, how many people litter on the beach, etc. You have no incentive to protect or clean anything if you'll only see a short term gain as the people who visit the area after you wreck it and mess it. It's not about selling a profitable enterprise as you can't sell it since it isn't even yours. However, if you can recognize that fact and realize it's a communally owned property than it's different. If it's recognize by the group as owned by the group than the group will try to preserve it. However, if no one or group will claim ownership who will protect it. There wouldn't even be forests (or as many at least) in America had Roosevelt not created the National Parks Service. He decided that they needed to owned so they could be preserved and saved. Humans are tragically short sited, if we would read the writing on the walls would there really be tragedies like Easter Island, the extinction of the Dodo bird, the latest American recession? I doubt it. Ownership isn't bad per say but it does has it's draws back. People forgo long term benefit for short term game. Like when you decide to get a good paying job after high school versus college and end up making less in the long run.
ThatOneAccount931 Would it not have incentivized the farmers to treat all the cows equally on the common land if they co-operatively owned all the cows and voted on how to distribute all the money made from the cows?
+Zack Edwards Yeah, perhaps that is the definition of conservatism, but have you seen the politicians and office seekers nowadays who go under the label conservative?
Republicans are red, Democrats are blue, and neither of them give a shit about you. I'm not picking sides. Fuck narrow minded political parties. I'm staying independent, thank you very much.
Even George Washington said that political parties were a bad idea. He said they would create a divisive environment in which people could just flock to one side or the other instead of formulating their own deductions. And, that's exactly what has happened.
What the fuck is this? In Dr Seuss everything rhymes. Do it again and stop wasting my time. Rhyme your ass off and don't be lazy. Or I will turn you crazy.
This bullshit party system and this "pick a side" bs only causes hostility and leaves little to no room for compromise or understanding. Mark my words, in due time the country will end up with another civil war and end up as a divided shithole, oh wait, that's already happening.
After 4 years of democrat control how did the left think this was a good idea to have a man with the brain shrivelled into the size of a nut was a good idea.
I've always wondered this, couldnt they have shaved the trees in lorax without cutting them down? The fabric or whatever they are supposed to be would have just grown back, cutting them down would have just destroyed profits, also technically some trees do die and should actually be chopped down to prevent forest fires, ironically, this is actually good for the environment
@@baronbrummbar8691 this is not explained,perhaps a fandom wiki suggest the wood is used as firewall.Also the problem is that the onceler cuts to many trees, theres a diference betwen choping down some trees and choping down the entire forest
Red Pentalpha If that's what you think, then you didn't read the book or see the original 1972 special. And if you did, then you missed the point of them entirely.
Stoneth I did read the book. I did not see the 1972 special though. I think it was a good movie, you are just taking it too seriously. If you didn't like it, then fine. There is nothing wrong with me liking it.
Actually, I saw the movie. It was a well-expanded movie (as you can never expect NO expansion when making a movie out of a children's book) that added to the message that the book has now. Sure, it's a "whole different story", but it's a meta-story. The story surrounding the world of "The Lorax", the book, is filled in magnificently in a dystopian utopia, and the movie kept faithful to the book as possible (You just can't make a movie without showing one of the main characters until the end!).
I'm actually a phospholipid bilayer Then capitalism does not work if you can inherit money because people do not start from equal footing and earn their way up.
I'm actually a phospholipid bilayer Do not call me a moron if you are going to proceed to contradict yourself. If some people start off rich and some start off poor. Then are their opportunities equal?
I'm not sure what the message is. "Oh, no, they cut down all the Truffula trees!" Except the fact ThneedCo owns the seed means they plan on planting replanting the entire forest?
Except they wouldn’t because trees take half a lifetime to mature and capitalist decision making is driven by short term quarterly profits, not long term sustainability. Once the market for Thneeds is decimated by deforestation, they’ll just move the capital to the next investment, leaving the locals without a forest and the thneed workers without jobs. People need to learn that’s how the “free-market” works.
Cam Jones So stupid, not grounded in reality. No, they would be genetically modifying them to produce more seeds and fabric, and doing it faster. This causes them to be cheaper, and thus more people will want it, and then they will have to make more. *Like in real life.*
Artyom Metro none of your reply addresses the fact that it takes 30 years for trees to mature. You think they are going to stick around and pay their employees for 30 years while they wait for the next set of mature trees to harvest? Or are these trees genetically modified to appear instantly like some fantasy novel?
@@BGcam you know people plant seeds as they go right... You could harvest a forest for 30 years and then come back around to where you started. Or better yet, you could hire contractors to cut down your trees and not long-term employees. As long as people need trees they'll be a market for trees. If everyone wants then but it's not profitable to harvest them then clearly those people aren't paying enough for what they want.
Has anyone else ever felt, while watching a video or reading the comments or listening to people argue, a certain oneness with the universe? A oneness so powerful that you just really want to leave this universe, and feel for a few fleeting moments that you actually can? Because I just felt that. Right now. And it was _glorious_.
Bob Marley Thanks for the insightful rhyme...but I like my life, thanks. I didn't mean that I wanted to die when I said I could leave. I meant that I felt I could actually travel interdimensionally.
Guys... I'm not on drugs... and I never sniffed glue... and yeah overkill8436 kind of sad how my generation is deteriorating that way. I'm not a part of that.
What a stereotype, one that's rather extreme. Why is bashing political parties such a meme? Be realistic, this depiction of yours isn't true, we recognize what's ours, and what's not, too. Like how false the Liberal stereotypes go, that they're lazy, uncaring drug users, yo! Take these portrayals with a grain of salt, I know Seuss would, as parties aren't at fault. United States or Divided Political Parties; there's a difference between the two of these. I judge people by character and that alone, not by other people's, it's each to their own. Autobot and Decepticon, Jedi and Sith, fairness means there's no one "side" to go with. We don't want to be dragged into your wars, and no longer support this system of yours.
the parody and exaggerated conservative lorax: with illegal immigrants, are trees really our biggest concern? the actual president, four years later: with illegal immigrants, are trees really our biggest concern?
If the Lorax were actually a conservative, he would invest his profits in planting more Truffela Trees, and then everyone could be rich AND have nature.
***** First of all, your reply has nothing to do with my comment, but I'll answer anyway. The "no blacks allowed" thing was fifty years ago, and I don't even know what you're saying in the rest of the comment.
***** Yeah, but the beauty of capitalism is that if someone doesn't want to be an employee, they can start their own company. Plus, the alternatives to capitalism suck, so...
***** Immoral actions of a few don't discredit the system, we have laws against monopolies, and it's a doctor's choice what he does and doesn't recommend. Businesses should have the right to deny service based on ANY reason, including race. You don't have the right to anyone's service.
Okay, but you do realize "the economy" doesn't just mean the stock market and the rich getting richer and all... It's also everyone's jobs, (including the middle and lower classes) and it's having enough quality goods and services for everyone to live.
Yeah well what's the point of living when Earth looks like planet Mars? Idk what kind of lifestyle you live and what you value. It's foolish to place such values on what you said when there will come a day that there's no resources left for these greedy people to pillage and then there will REALLY be no jobs left.
@@russelstrawmire9817 I know. I didn't say we shouldn't stop destroying planet or anything. I'm just saying if somebody expresses concern about "the economy" they're talking about something important and you shouldn't dismiss them as just a greedy monopolist.
Dr. Seuss had a weird way of rapping...but he threw down bars pretty memorably.
It's called poetry
@@Neilapolitan08 it's called a joke
@@Neilapolitan08 liar
I misread it💀
Yeah.
Who is getting this now after the election
Me
Me
Ha yeah
Me
First time it was recommended to me!
The Lorax: Master of guilt-tripping
Lorax please help me I being killed slowly from people like this
you cant say ones right and ones wrong
So why dont we all just get along
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In rhyme no less. This man-...er, Lorax is a god.
@@a.bagasm.7253 You can
I am the Lorax
And I speak for the trees
But I can't understand them
Because they speak Vietnamese
*Cái quái gì vậy ???*
Cheyenne Bates oui
I've deppresion and despair
Gepetto is in the belly of a whale
So why dont you get him out there
In those dark,chaotic,sad jail
@@Sahiyena11 hay lắm bạn
A. Bagas M. Oh well oh my
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Emma Utterback no he was a leftist
20 years ago...
:)
Joie Russell all his story’s have this strong communist music
Joie Russell I’m leftist
“I am the Lorax I speak for he trees now pick up your litter or I’ll break you knees.”
Nah, that's more like ancom Lorax
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@@MattFyrm have you seen Cuba? Commies hate the environment.
Ecofash all day
@@jagerbluetooth43 I wouldn't quite call Cuba ancom :P
On the contrary they are or at the very least were statist communists
Jager Bluetooth Eco fascists leaving their bedroom treehouse when their mom calls them to come back inside for dinner.
The Supreme Court approved of something called citizens united which recognizes corporations as human beings, thus allowing them to donate as much money as they want to politicians. So that line about corporations being people hits really hard 😢
They have changed this since then, of course it is knowingly still full of loopholes
Citizens united determined that political donations were a form of speech. The idea is that since verbal support of something is protected by the First Amendment, monetary support is also protected. So long as the donors do not conspire with the campaign, they can donate as much as they like through PACs and SuperPACs because the court views their money as a form of speech
@@heyitsally7995 isn't there laws about giving too much to a candidate?
@@justanotheranimeprofilepic yes. But the lawyers found a very clever loophole. Half as interesting has an excellent video about this.
I think the idea is that companies are allowed to fund adds in support of political campaigns as much as they please as long as they don't cooperate with the campaign itself, or at least as long as cooperation can't be proved.
Made 8 years ago and it feels like nothing's really changed...
republicans will keep sucking billionaire dicks as long as billionaires exist
@@icyr0bin-794 Well it will take a civil war to weed them out, so lets see in 20 years
Yeah :(
and the democrats don´t ??? ----- they even give them a subsidy or two and some nice tax loops
@@baronbrummbar8691 both parties suck
I am the Lorax
And I speak for the trees.
And this tree says...
Please End Me
"I beg of you please" says the tree so it seems
And this tree wants a table made out of it's knees.
It pleaded and pleaded so a chainsaw the Lorax needed
With chainsaw so mighty!
The tree fell down so brightly!
It’s suffering has ended
It’s death no longer suspended
The trees cried out free!
Thank god no more jimmy!
**End Me Please
I am the lorax,
I speak for the trees,
Touch me or them again,
And ill break your fucking knees.
Oh it's so sad! Sniff! Those poor managers and tycoons. How are they supposed to buy an eleventh yacht?
13th you mean
@@PMVoid 50th
By making smart moves in the market
Actually the more yachts they buy the better for everyone
@Republican Channel yup that's the point
Let it die, let it die, let it shrivel up and... c'mon who's with me huh?
Nobody!
Raidenslicer YOU GREEDY DIRTBAG!
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This parody still has better plot than the 2012 movie
Let it grow
@@lifeboy3253 Biggering
@@spochysrandomnetwork how bad can i be
@@Mypfpisbetterthanyours Biggering
@@lifeboy3253 Biggering cope
That Lorax is dumb. He should’ve saved some trees to make more trees.
Todd Kubela true a real capitalist would replant to maintain a profit
Going back to the original story, I think Seuss was trying to make a separate point about responsibility and the like, through the modus of trees, not one particularly about capitalism, and environmentalism. So an obvious solution like what logging companies do irl would've messed with the intended message. But I agree, if environmentalism was the true aim, it should have brought up points like that. Although they do mention in the cartoon how long it takes to grow truffula trees. 10 months just to germinate, and many many years after that just to grow a bit, so creating massive orchards would've taken a long time especially with how quickly thneed corp. expanded from nothing.
*logger factory*
@@robertwagonschutz777 true, though there are many instances of capitalist prefering short term profits to mid and long term profitability. It's more of a metaphor.
True
FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW TREES WORK...
Yes, trees can grow back, but it takes decades for them to do so. Not to mention the graphic change in enviorment their absence can leave.
Thx to librals no more paper or houses cuz we cant cut trees
DisneyKidsFOREVER and they do keep a local environment free of massive runoff, and absorb pollution.
But a majority of our O2 comes from good ol' algae! And there isn't a regulation on that (I mean, most of it is out of our way so we don't touch it, but still)
I find that clip oddly concerning as a conservative
It really depends on the type of tree, some only take a year or two to grow. Lumber and paper industries have actually created more forest then they've destroyed by using trees that grow quickly.
The real problem is when big companies clear out already established forest to make room for factories or plantations.
+HunterTheCyborg// HunterHTC I've recently heard of this new house building alternative to wood called stone! I guess it's one of the trends those weird hipster stoneage kids like to follow. But to be honest, it's too futuristic for my taste
Replacing a forest with different species of growth affects the ecology of the local area. Different animals are bound to spring up with a new systemic homeostasis~
3 years later and still accurate. Timeless lessons emphasized by Dr. S and CH
10 years
wdym? Paper and Wood instry plant the most trees of all. Way more then they cut ;P
@@YangChuan2001nope! they plant literally a fraction of what they cut down
@@CyanWatercress4 Maybe on a world wide stage since the government heavily subsidies the production of processes food and bio fuels resulting in the destruction of the rainforest for example but not in the developed world such as the US or Europe. Planting a tree costs a fraction of a fraction of what they make as a profit out of the wood, replanting results in a huge long-term profit and it would be financially brain dead to not do it - which is why, like I said, the wood industry plants the mist trees and that is a fact. The wood industry does basically the same as the average farmer, planting and harvesting.
More than half the forest land in the U.S is owned and managed by about 11 million private forest owners. Private forest lands provided 89% of the domestically produced wood and paper products in 2017. The income landowners receive for trees grown on their land encourages them to maintain, sustainably manage and renew this valuable resource.
At the same time the net forest area in the U.S. has been stable since the early 1900s and increased by about 2% from 752 million to 765 million acres between 2007 and 2017. Net volume of growing stock increased by more than 5% over the same period.
It's ok we have Mr Beast
I love how most of these comments are from a 1 year or 2 years yet this video came out 2012 lol
And they’re either “THE TREES SPEAK VIETNAMESE” or completely irrelevant to the video
F*ck
A true capitalist would farm the trees instead of cutting them all down.
@Nova Ah, the good old conservative bizarro-verse.
@Nova Sure. Tell yourself that. As long as you can lie to yourself, you'll feel fine. You'll be a fool. But you'll feel good about it.
Bravo
Unfortunately capitalism isn't great at long term planning. Farms take capital to set up and it's more profitable to exhaust a resource, make a killing as it becomes rare, then move onto the next thing.
Matt Dombrowski Its more profitable to renew and farm the resource, like what most conservative businesses do.
You don't know me, but my name's Sai
But it seems like trees, might be worth a try
My name is Dan, and my name's Rose
Mr. Toaster And that's not good, so we supose...
We should let it grow
Let it grow, let it grow
Kid: Wait, wait, cant you make a national park and have thousands of tourists spent their money-
Lorax: Now Now, stop right at money, you just made me thousands of dollars richer.
National Parks make THE STATE more money, not ideal.
@@TheBayzent It's that or more taxes, buddy. Running a country ain't cheap.
NO TREES = NO OXYGEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@MatteoProductionsStudio we know
@@MatteoProductionsStudiofalse algea exists
I didn't know what politics were when I first watched this as a kid I just thought this was funny "ha ha Lorax is evil now!" Crazy to see how batshit crazy politics have gotten
Which is why I stay out of them.
Shit has not changed one bit, has it?
@@colinmackinnon696Unfortunately staying out of them is kind of part of the problem
Y O U G R E E D Y D I R T B A G
Let it grow, let it grow
Welp, there goes your oxygen
the majority of our oxygen is produced by moss and algae
Soviet Doge Nice, didn't know :D
Vecthur the more you know, the less you value life as we know it :-[
+Soviet Doge Actually, most of the oxygen we breath is from the oxygen stored in the atmosphere.
Freakin Hobbs i said produced by moss and algae not what we consume
Lorax grew up, went to Harvard Business School, graduated with honors, started up Stratton Oakmont with The Wolf of Wall Street, got rich, ran for Senate and now he's here. I don't know if I'm proud.
Don't, wolf of wall street wasn't supposed to make you cheer for the dude
@@techissus7449 Same with Fight Club, but the message was lost
You were the chosen one! You were supposed to destroy the corporations, not join them! Bring balance to nature, not tear forests apart!
O'Hare came back disguised as the Lorax!
True!
O’Hare is back for revenge
@@mauriciolizarbe4835 POV: O'hare went to Hogwarts got sorted in to Slytherin and make polyjuice potion and got hairstyle tip from Snape 🤣
@@FrederickPurcell-yp8vcDidn't need to be that specific
I'm just a random commenter and i say...
Canada makes a nice bit of money, eh?
That's beceause they cut trees, but now you must ask:
Why are there so many trees there, if they all get the axe?
Well my friend, that's to do with legislations.
They benefit the forest, and also corporations.
For every tree cut, two more are planted.
That's to make sure the forests don't get blanted.
And then we see something very nice.
They managed to keep forests healthy, despite all the ice.
Truly, it is possible now.
To make money and still say "wow".
You see my friends, corporations aren't crazy.
It's the government that's sometimes a bit lazy.
I salute you now, as i am out of rhymes.
And whatever you do, remember to look back at the old times.
THIS NEEDS MORE LIKES
INTernal Jordan I know right!?
Yay canada i hate my country usa sucks
The same thing happens in America. We also plant 2 trees for every 1 cut down.
Jona Willekens ..."blanted"?
And then he ran for president, true story.
Lchup1cabara i thought of the same exact thing haha
+miksuaka XD
Heathcliff "global warming is a hoax"
+Staffaynu "perpetrated by the fish to destabilize the truffula market"
ethan howsare ikr, can't believe it oh well
LET IT DIE LET IT DIE LET IT SHRIVEL UP AND DIE 🅱️😤😤
LET IT 🅱️IE
You 🅱️reedy 🅱️irt 🅱️ag
YOU GREEDY DIRBAAAAAAG
Lauren Jewel z yOU gREeDy DiRT bAG!
Cheryl Lynsky PPP
I thought that the word ”Conservative” meant someone who was traditional and likes something of the old days.
No it's just Republican stuck better than conservative in America.
@@python1972 Actually being a conservative means to uphold traditional values, we like to conserve that is why it is called conservatism.
@@imanoldsoul59 I believe the word you're looking for is : Preserve
@@SirPhrosty Conserve: to protect or uphold, and preserve
Liberals are creative and
Cosnservatives are dutiful
So why dont we all get a long
To make this world beutiful
Take a shot everytime they rhyme something with 'tree' or 'trees'
playing it RIGHT NOW
Don't. You will get alcohol poisoning.
Lol
+im helpful is a lie you called me?
don't, though l. you will die from alcohol poisoning.
Farming trees would not solve the problem. The book was about how the animals and other plants were affected.
We already know the tragic story of the Lorax
It sorta would, since they could reuse area rather then go on to other areas.
It could atleast cover some demand, slowing the damage caused.
So while not entirely solved, it bides more time.
The book was meant to push compromise, so the workers and animals can both live. Too far to one extreme is what led to disaster.
Then plant your own trees without the animals
@@bloodstormwolf9512 the truffula tree takes 10 months to germinate, 10 years to become a sapling and another 10 years to be fully grown,
If we assume its like maybe like 800 trees (or whatever you’d like to think), every 800 thneeds sold would be 20 years and 10 months waiting for a new tree to replace it
*Trump*
This was made in 2012
Carmela M they predicted the future
He also ran in 2012, but didn't get far. He started the Birther Movement (the people who claimed Obama wasn't born in America) and then he dropped out before the nominations.
Storm Shred nah it’s just that trump and Romney have a lot of similarities.
The future was predicted by the simsons too... scarry
This obviously was about more than Trump, it was the whole conservative party
They forgot the part where Monsanto sues the kid for theft lol
*Me:*The illegal ingurries have TONS of truffalo trees.
*Lorax:* Well invasion by the militag is just what we needs
Who doesn't love casual Trump references
@@WildMagicBoggle is that a trump reference?
@@scythe2534 maybe...
awww yeahh macro economics BABEEEEEEEEEEE
Yes my children will know this story well. A real tear jerker of an ending. So beautiful.
You can't spell "economy" without "eco"
白ない where were the tree ents when you needed them
白ない ekonomy
あかり赤座 haha
*ego
Carlminion to
Remove the irony and you have a PragerU video.
I mean even with the Irony the Lorax is right
Lol ouch
Got em
@@TheReasonableSkepticist no he's not really he's not even a smart business man, if he was he would of saved a good portion of the trees so they could make more trees etc.
You get the point.
"corporations are people too"
for 2012 even CollegeHumor knew alot
They're made up of people, sure. Yet they lack that human touch.
Depends which type
true
GREEDY people that is.
Companies are run and managed by people, those people want money, hence corporations behave like bullying, greedy people trying to get as much money as they can while keeping it from others. Because that’s who they’re run by, so it’s how they behave.
Honestly I don't understand how people can fall perfectly into the outline of either party. Conservatism makes sense on some issues. Liberalism makes sense on some issues. If we would agree to take the best of each party, we could do truly great things.
Thank you. Seriously. The people who 100% agree with either party are idiots.
Jim Bob Compromise is only attainable when the two parties either want the same thing, or have more in common than they don't. With American Politics, this is NOT the case.
+Jim Bob cute
liberalism and conservatism are only two faces of the same system. both act within the framework of capitalism and both are comparatively right wing if you compare it to other political positions (ie reformism/social democracy or various versions of socialism): in the 30s both viewpoints showed themselves as more willing to side with fascism in europe than with the left (notably in spain). so yes there's plenty of room for compromises between the two, but to say that's because they both have good ideas is where I have to depart with you.
+Jim Bob
Spot on, couldn't agree more! Too bad there's no third party to highlight this problem.
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I visualize someone saying, "hey, do you like blue or red?"
They both have their ups and downs. It's hard to make a defining choice over who the lesser of two evils is. Voting in this system is fucked, there seems to be no purpose.
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Why not implement a system where you show up, they give you a sheet, it has the top 30 important issues.
You then check either "yes", "no", or "abstain" on each topic from top to bottom.
Then you slide it into a ballot box.
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I just hate this whole "he said this" "Oh yeah? Well HE said this!" The back and forth of politics is just sad, it's hard to get into.
I have a feeling most people vote because they feel very strongly on one or two subjects and that makes them "left" or "right". Or there are others who don't want to let their family down so they just go with the flow. And finally, there are those who abstain from voting all together.
corporations: "chop down all the trees"
also corporations: why is everyone as well as us dying?
deadass not how it happens irl. supplies are contracted out, and the suppliers are the ones who replenish things, we dont exactly clear cut forests and leave nothing behind in forestry. and it's kinda a dumb idea that doesnt apply to life that capitalism, the free market which regulates itself to keep going would cause a supply shortage where it would stop total production of basic supplies.
@@3kojimbles895 if your going to provide your input on my opinion please leave hostilities out of it...............deadass
@@mirroredchaos well guess I'll say "not how it happens irl no cap" same shit either way man
The onceler said: Who cares if a few things are dying?...
@@3kojimbles895 Don't explain life to people who never paid taxes. It's pointless.
just change the mustache to its hair and we have Sir Donald
TheWooperAbove *Triggered*
100th like.
Sir??? i thought he was born in the usa ( not a monarchy )
Marte van Vechel Well...he is trying to blur the lines
Just put the stache on his head
You know the biggest threat to trees aren't loggers right? With loggers, they plant more trees to replace what they took, or use paper farms, or in easier terms have farmers grow trees in order to sell it for paper. Now the real threat would be farming actually, mostly for raising domestic animals.
true, and almost all the trees cut down now are only 60 years old roughly. their 3rd growth and years of cutting down and replanting
YESSSS!!!! You are so right!!!! Animal agriculture (meat, dairy, egg, etc. Industries) contribute to 91% of Amazon rainforest destruction. Animal agriculture also contributes to 51% of all greenhouse gas emissions. All transportions (cars, airplanes, trains, etc) only contribute 13%.
are you sure? I dont know if they pushed it or not, or even if a regulation even exists. but I know the trees cut down now are 3rd and even 4th growth. and I cant imagine a regulation being passed for logging 150 years ago
because they took all the trees, and put them in a tree museum. And people had to pay a dollar and a half to see them. they took all the trees and put in a parking lot... lol.
The biggest threat to trees is fire, and big logging companies are among the biggest contributors to fire danger, especially in old-growth forest. This is true in the U.S. anyway.
why do things like these never mention that most logging companies plant trees as they cut?
To maintain their narrative.
That's why everyday footballfields of rainforest are choped down.
Cardi Jey ??? Your point is... what exactly? Sure they cut down football fields. Then they promptly plant new trees right where they cut. Kind of like a farmer. A farmer harvests his corn, but he knows he'll run out, so once the harvest is over, he plants more corn for next year.
oh nono, here in the us, or in europe, that is the case. Our wood is from preserved areas where they keep a balance, but if it comes to wood from asia, africa and south america, they chop everything down without regrets and vision for the future. That's why i said rainforest. But we are not totally innocent, we buy that stuff.
Cardi Jey Ah. It seems like a pretty bad business plan from those companies then. They'll run out of both product and the ability to plant more. Are you sure that none of them are doing that over there? I really thought I saw something about one of the bigger, US logging companies replanting even in the rain forests.
I am the Lorax
I speak for the trees
Litter again
Say goodbye to your knees
Hey internet! I just made a nonpolitical comment. FEAR ME!!!!
Don't kill me! I have a wife and children.
Oh God ! Was the prophecy true?
Has the web revealed the one chosen?
Hiding I have to because in time a few
Mercy won't shows for the children's man!
(Sorry for bad english)
unkykun No problem, google translate has issues. Keep learning! ;)
Ivore Surkuri Not sure what you are talking about, But I like the enthusiasm! :)
Thanks for explaining it. Sorry that I didn't get the reference, I'm not much of a gamer I'm afraid.
Lorax no longer speaks for the tree. He now speaks for the money and capitalism.
And Onceler be like: Bro wtf
Capitalism doesn't have borders
Capitalism would incentivize him to replant the trees, a low time preference is what capitalism creates, it incentivizes sustainable practices like for instance: replanting the trees; this is what lumber companies do because it leads to future prosperity and their customers continue to support their practices with their dollar. After all money is speech.
@@RandomRothbardianThat is a naive and utterly theoretical idea without any ties to reality. Capitalism, if anything, incentivizes high time preference over everything, as it has been researched that too much money breaks one's psyche if it wasn't already, considering that the person already became wealthy through business instead of actual skills. The wealthy are just dictators who didn't want to become politicians.
@@RandomRothbardian Ideally, at least, but The Lorax is about a capitalist who was so focused on the present, he couldn't even be bothered to think about his own future.
I'm getting more of an anti-capitalist vibe rather than an anti-conservative vibe.
what did you expect from communisthumor?
Wow funny joke casperd. You are just hilarious.
I don't see a problem here comrade ☭
Good
I mean, capitalism does profit off the destruction of the environment, whilst socialism will maintain trees for the good of all. Capitalism prefers profit; socialism good for all. Social Democracy may try to combine both, but eco-socialism is the only way to save the environment. There's no surprise to be found here.
This video was ahead of its time.
Don't mind me, just a non-political comment.
HUH finally
jwan besande good luck on your journey young comment, one day you will be needed, keep in earshot non-political comment you will be called upon and on that day you will transcend all expectations
Demilitarized zone coming through!
Austin Parnell wtf is wrong with you. You must have a rock for brains
I don't understand it, but it's obviously a joke
As a conservative, even I have to admit.
*This is 🅱️ U C K I N G HILARIOUS* 😂🤣👌😆🤔
For sure
Indeed
Stop being a conservative
Well as a conservative, you should reconsider your stance
@@wiggy009 "oRaNge mAn bAd"
I feel that if the Lorax would want to continue his profit, he would plant multiple plots of thneeds that would be harvested at different times then replanted to make sure his profits continue to come in instead of blindly harvesting every tree in a forest.
In this case, yes. But if he was cutting the trees down to make room for farmland, then he would have no reason to plant trees.
If you were to do that you would risk getting out produced by a competitor who's willing to cut down trees for short term profit therefore the capitalist free market incentive creates long term environmental problems
@sol1d gh0st
No, you don't. You have made fabulous profit in the short term, which happens to also be your career.
Long term would benefit people who follow you, but not necessarily you.
This is actually what we do. Do you think loggers just take and take with no replanting. One problem is that a lot of forest just becomes a farm and not a habitat. There are plenty of trees in the world, just not the natural kind of variety or lifespan anymore. Like how you can get an apple almost anywhere at anytime these days but only a few varieties (at most stores)
@@yawningsoldier7675 which is why you want your kids to earn
“And all of a sudden, I heard a guzzumer. And a strange little man, popped out of a Hummer”
Basically Trump starting his campaign in 2016
Liberals are creative and conservatves are dutiful
And that's why we must talk
To make the world beutiful
@@a.bagasm.7253 f u c k l i b e r a l s
@@milkchugger17ACTUALLY,you can't tell wich one is right because in large part is determined by your personality wich means that sometimes the liberal is right and sometime the conservatives are correct. That's why we need both of them to have a political discussion so that our soceity is functioning
Wasim Tuber Liberals should join forces with conservatives to take down the true problem, the fascist democrats.
@@misterling645 Lol. Conservatives already proved themselves as Trump enablers and have officially sold their soul to the devil. Only the Lincoln project has redeemed themselves.
I think i finally understand how liberal college humor is
Wrong. They make fun of liberals too
*****
Nope, they do. You just haven't looked
Jonny, can you explain to me how racial profiling can be construed as not racist
***** I would say "Where are your sources to prove that statement?"
source: the ministry of defence crime statistics
As hilarious as this is, and as much as I despise the lobbyists and bureaucrats that run this country, the video has the same flaw that the original story had. A smart business owner would have ensured the survival of the trees so that he would always have the resources to make more thneeds. It would have been in everyone's best interest to preserve them. Of course, that wasn't the main message of the story, so it's alright
Have you ever heard if the tragedy of the commons?
Actually, businesses have an incentive to effectively rape the land because the cost of it is split evenly among everyone, so while it's huge in total, it's low for the corporation. Meanwhile the benefit of it is nothing for the people, but big for the corporation. So this destruction is worth it for the corporation but not for everyone in total.
W Abc yeah but once you run out of resources, thats it. So you can rape the land all you want, but you’re screwing yourself over in the long run
@@mikeydaversa1760 A small family business would.
But stock traders don't care about the long term. They want fast profits yesterday and once the resources are gone they have already liquidated and moved on. And big corporations just see value in scarcity, because if you control all that is left then you can put whatever price you want.
Which is why you need incentives and regulations for small, sustainable business to thrive.
Kristian Jörgensen but if you just controlled the resource, like the kid controls the forest in the video, then you could ensure those fast profits far into the future and ride the train until JUST before the wheels fall off. That’s by far the most profitable plan
Legends say that those poor tycoons’ butler’s butlers had to fire their butler’s butler!
Logging Regulations:
Replant for every chopped,cutted,and bulldozed trees.
No burning the trees.
Dynamite needs to be handled carefully.
Be fair to the competitions.
No Pollution.
No Littering.
They should include that the illegal imgury's worked for the lorax at a below minimum salary.
Exclaims the tiny uneducated liberal
VeRGoGaming 891 Nah, I'm pretty educated, that's why I know that Trump uses illegals to build his towers and plans on using them to build the wall (and making them pay for it).
the tiny uneducated liberal retorts.
Blurry Birb well at least he would be employing immigrants, unlike leftists who want them financially dependent on state welfare provided by tax payers money.
is joke....
If you put the mustache on top of the Lorax's head, and you'll find Donald Trump.
CrAzyW3irdo Still better than fucking Hillary.
Nosebleed Macgee Oh, but see, that's incorrect.
minioop2 *Raises Eyebrow* Really now.
At least she isn't breaking the FIRST AMENDMENT
Tankerchief She wants to get rid of the Second Amendment.
"how bad could I possibly be?"
Not bad at all
*man fucks bird*
A company's an animal
That's trying to survive
It's struggling and fighting
Just to keep itself alive
@@shurale123 Biggering is triggering more biggering!
Thank you Algorithm for giving me this gem
2:00 "A company's an animal that's trying to survive, it's struggling and fighting to keep itself alive!"
biggering
Trying to keep itself ALERT..
So I'm not the only fan of this song here...
Technically by definition the lorax is a conservative
How?
+Fear The Mutt Conservationism. ;)
Yeah, I looked that word up, and it's exactly what I thought. The Lorax from the original story was not a conservative.
+Fear The Mutt
The lorax is trying to conserve the forest so there for he is technically a conservative ;)
+rajat mehndiratta
Corection: thats not the POLITICAL definition of conservative
"We need regulation to get out of their way" hey we tried that at 2008, I don't remember how it went...
+Phoenix Productions doing that with cars nowadays
Don't forget the prime rate loans of used cars, thats going bang some time... mhmm wonder why can't we learn our mistakes
James Patrick the outcome was recession
*Leans into mic* Wrong. Bush added thousands of new regulations in 2008.
omegaXXIV yeah, after the recession started
I hate that people don’t get the point of this. It isn’t just about trees. It’s about our world as a whole. Who would you rather protect: wealthy politicians, corporations and billionaires who don’t give a rats as abt you or your own neighbors, friends, children, and partners who actually want to help? If that isn’t simple to you then idk what to tell you. You are too far gone. But if it’s about your religion or faith let me remind you to love thy neighbor and not thy billionaire. Jesus hated the rich. Jesus would hate Trump.
i wonder if well end up having a revolt like in the 3d lorax movie
And that's why we voted against kamala
@@leguman5289 and why is that? hes not gonna save the trees, air, ground, or sea. wanting to remove pollution regulations and do things like leave the paris accord and pull incentives for ev's wont help any part of our world
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@@LightBluPikachu he's going to help americans instead of trees. And we wont have +15% inflation unlike what biden did
A company is not a person
That's true; unfortunately, the Supreme Court disagrees.
They're treated as people for some reason.
Regan ruined everything.
Now do The Liberal Lorax. 😁
Agent 47 They are “College” Humor not “Sensible” Humor
Agent 47 it would be “sensible” to do so but wouldn’t fit with the “college”
"who cares about the trees when we have bigger issues like oppressed minorities"
ejsdotalt
How about you don't use autism as an insult? It makes you look ignorant.
P77777777 lol
Seeing this 12 years after for some reason
Because we need to care for the environment and nature instead of petty politics
@@Chris_Thorndykeyou have never planted a tree in your life 😊
@@cooler_carpington And why do you assume that?
@@Chris_Thorndyke because let’s be honest everyone talks about helping the environment, but they don’t do anything
Ironically, conservatives are the greatest conservationists... well, i suppose its not thaf ironic, they both involve the word "conserve"
The funny thing is, this more competent and convincing than 90% of conservative media.
this was amazingly good
Yes, because nothing's more profitable than depleting your whole source of supply.
***** Banana's are a natural mutation, and are wiped out easily. The banana that was commonly eaten from the 1920's to the 1950's was nearly driven to extinction because of lack of genetic variance, and the banana we eat today faces the same threat.
***** Not to be rude but the tragedy of commons is a story promoting private enterprise. Essentially, the tragedy comes from the fact that since no ONE person owned the land, the collective could not bother to maintain it's upkeep. Rather, they kept using it and using it until there was nothing left where as if it had been privately owned, the owner would have stepped in. It's a good lesson but not exactly applicable in this sense as private ownership and big business are now the cause for the tragedy. When everyone owns something, people may be less inclined to clean it up (much like your roommate(s) despite that everyone would benefit from clean dishes, vacuumed rugs, etc.). However, when it is privately owned for the sake of profit and nothing else, the owners may (as shown through experience) will only care about the profit here and now. It's not a collective issue but a greed issue. When is enough enough and what will we sacrifice for it. And that's all of us, even the majority who support these institutions for a few dollars more. But that leads us to low wages and the like which stem for the previous problem of big business who outsources. ...I did not mean for this post to be so long and....rude isn't the right word...preachy maybe? Sorry.
ThatOneAccount931 The tragedy of the commons happens under communism, however, there is a way to get all the benefits of communism and capitalism without the downfall of either. It's called co-operative enterprise.
It's a business model where every worker of particular business enterprise shares ownership of said business. All the workers vote on their wages, and on how to run the business. All the money that in a private enterprise would become the private money of the Capitalist, now is the pooled money of that whole business. Instead of blindly obeying orders and competing with employees for promotions, everyone would be able to freely discuss and debate about how things should be run, and there would be a work environment of community and cooperation and autonomy. Co-operative enterprise would be able to be conscientious of externalities such as how the environment is being effected by their business practices because unlike in a competitive economy where you have to compete at all costs just to achieve bottom line profit needed to survive as a business, a co-operative enterprise cooperates with everyone, and therefore has time to step back and discuss and be conscious of externalities.
And the tragedy of the commons is avoided with this model since free riders would be getting a share of money that could be spread among the rest of you, you would have an economic incentive to fire free riders, meaning people would have an incentive not to be free riders themselves.
And unlike communism, co-operative enterprise still respects personal property, so you could wake up in your private home, put on your private clothes, eat some of your private food for breakfast and drink some of your coffee and if it helps you work smoke a bowl of some good sativa and then drive your private car to a workplace that you co-operatively own and run with all of your co-workers.
And there are different models of co-op, different models work better for different businesses. Some are a direct democracy, some elect managers every so often in elections (and usually vote for them to have slightly higher pay as an economic incentive to do well), some elect work councils, whatever works.
***** I do not want to be rude or come across crass but you are wrong. I am a Political Science major and an Economics minor, the Tragedy of Commons stems from an ACTUAL English event in which an edict allowed local farmers to use the "common land". These farmers, acting as rational individuals, chose to have their cows and sheep overgraze, thus having them grow fatter and more profitable. And as everyone acted in their own self interest and rationally, it over extended the commons to a point in where the land was unusable. And as far as I was taught, if someone were to own that land and see it was becoming unusable, they would step in and stop it. When you own something, you take better care of it. It's a fact. How many people go to parties and don't care about the mess they make, how many people litter on the beach, etc. You have no incentive to protect or clean anything if you'll only see a short term gain as the people who visit the area after you wreck it and mess it. It's not about selling a profitable enterprise as you can't sell it since it isn't even yours. However, if you can recognize that fact and realize it's a communally owned property than it's different. If it's recognize by the group as owned by the group than the group will try to preserve it. However, if no one or group will claim ownership who will protect it. There wouldn't even be forests (or as many at least) in America had Roosevelt not created the National Parks Service. He decided that they needed to owned so they could be preserved and saved. Humans are tragically short sited, if we would read the writing on the walls would there really be tragedies like Easter Island, the extinction of the Dodo bird, the latest American recession? I doubt it. Ownership isn't bad per say but it does has it's draws back. People forgo long term benefit for short term game. Like when you decide to get a good paying job after high school versus college and end up making less in the long run.
ThatOneAccount931 Would it not have incentivized the farmers to treat all the cows equally on the common land if they co-operatively owned all the cows and voted on how to distribute all the money made from the cows?
The amount of angry conservatives who can't take a joke
Jason Shults A shining example
+yWreck Are just a bunch of big awful blokes!
(Continue!)
+yWreck angry liberals are worse... (college protests lmao)
+Bob it actually was pretty funny lol
+yWreck i can when you do the same to the other side... This channel cannot it simply goes after the right. Done with this channel.
It’s ironic how he’s called “Conservative” Lorax, he’s not Conserving anything.
I know
The Lorax is representing their warped view of what a conservative is, which in this case he isn't a true conservative.
@@pwnomega4562 you remind me of the "not real socialism" people
the conservative only conserving the free market and Israel
He's conserving the institution of capitalism
@@loona_mew face the wall, nazbol
I'm conservative, and am against mass deforestation. Only log when you replant the trees, twofold or more. (I'm constitutional BTW)
+HyerJohn Standing for the constitution is the definition of conservatism, but college humor doesn't get that.
+HyerJohn Constitutionalists are against privatizing the US post, right?
+HyerJohn you cant be constitutional and conservative, because they largely ignore the whole freedom from religion thing
+Zack Edwards Yeah, perhaps that is the definition of conservatism, but have you seen the politicians and office seekers nowadays who go under the label conservative?
FattyRollsAgainOSU You mean frauds like John Kasich, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, and even Newt Gingrich?
Somehow this is a better story than the 2012 movie. Thank god there’s no how bad can I be
Sam! Thanks for coming in
@@priestofronaldalt Well, I am quite good you know
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This is actually the most persuasive arguement for the Conservative viewpoint I've ever seen.Take from that what you will.
The 20-minute TV special (the one that follows the origional to a t) is on Hulu, and it is much better than this.
I love how he's being paid off by the oncler
He definitely switched sides
Republicans are red, Democrats are blue, and neither of them give a shit about you.
I'm not picking sides. Fuck narrow minded political parties. I'm staying independent, thank you very much.
dude, I just watched a Dr. Seuss parody AND the first sentence of your comment. I was reading the rest expecting it to rhyme XD
Even George Washington said that political parties were a bad idea. He said they would create a divisive environment in which people could just flock to one side or the other instead of formulating their own deductions.
And, that's exactly what has happened.
only your first sentence rhymed...
What the fuck is this? In Dr Seuss everything rhymes.
Do it again and stop wasting my time.
Rhyme your ass off and don't be lazy.
Or I will turn you crazy.
This bullshit party system and this "pick a side" bs only causes hostility and leaves little to no room for compromise or understanding. Mark my words, in due time the country will end up with another civil war and end up as a divided shithole, oh wait, that's already happening.
Conservative orange man? That explains a lot.
What's wrong with conservatives?
wwhats wrong with trump?
After 4 years of democrat control how did the left think this was a good idea to have a man with the brain shrivelled into the size of a nut was a good idea.
"I am the Lorax I speak for my fees, and if you keep protecting the trees, I will feast on your knees."
What's even funnier about this political cartoon is Doctor Seuss actually started out as a political cartoonist
Man, this Lorax was very convincing.
+Jack Wilby Fake Capitalist??
His entire fortune is made off of free enterprise.
However he likes tariffs...What's up with that?
+Jack Wilby Ronald Reagan was a democrate.
+Nathan Brinkerhoff Um no, he was a Republican
+Christine Humphrey google it. He was a democrate for most of his life. Only towards his presidency did he become a republican.
Nathan Brinkerhoff that's probably the story of a lot of liberals, after they found out that democrats aren't liberals at all.
I've always wondered this, couldnt they have shaved the trees in lorax without cutting them down? The fabric or whatever they are supposed to be would have just grown back, cutting them down would have just destroyed profits, also technically some trees do die and should actually be chopped down to prevent forest fires, ironically, this is actually good for the environment
becouse the new lorax movie was an anti capitalist propaganda movie ---- if you watch the original it makes way more sence
@@baronbrummbar8691 this is not explained,perhaps a fandom wiki suggest the wood is used as firewall.Also the problem is that the onceler cuts to many trees, theres a diference betwen choping down some trees and choping down the entire forest
@@davifernandopereiraborges5168 do you know the Lorax demo songs ???
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they show what the movie was suposed to be
@@baronbrummbar8691 i only know biggering
@@davifernandopereiraborges5168 "Thneedville" (intro song) has a demo version ...... it is pretty messed up aswell
I'm conservative and couldn't help but smile
Same
There's a difference between a right-winger and greedy capitalist
It’s funny to see their weird and wacky views of us because they don’t think we believe in regulations keep economy and environment at equilibrium
Me too
@@tetsuoatehimbread1234 ok commie libtard
"The Lorax was right, he was sharp as a tack. Who was I to hold the economy back." Why is this line so hilarious 2:32
You can't spell economy without no
you also cant spell it without eco. :/
Dang. Preach.
You can't spell communism without famine, disease, and oppressive authoritarianism.
smug anime face Yeah you can.
You can't spell "environmentalist" without mental
Still better than The Lorax movie from 2012.
Oh cmon, that movie was good.
Red Pentalpha If that's what you think, then you didn't read the book or see the original 1972 special. And if you did, then you missed the point of them entirely.
Stoneth I did read the book. I did not see the 1972 special though.
I think it was a good movie, you are just taking it too seriously. If you didn't like it, then fine. There is nothing wrong with me liking it.
Actually, I saw the movie. It was a well-expanded movie (as you can never expect NO expansion when making a movie out of a children's book) that added to the message that the book has now. Sure, it's a "whole different story", but it's a meta-story. The story surrounding the world of "The Lorax", the book, is filled in magnificently in a dystopian utopia, and the movie kept faithful to the book as possible (You just can't make a movie without showing one of the main characters until the end!).
This is against capitalism not conservatism
And neither is fucking bad
Meeseeks Master Race _
Do you like that people can inherit money?
I'm actually a phospholipid bilayer
It's also obvious that I asked if you *like* it, not if you can.
I'm actually a phospholipid bilayer
Then capitalism does not work if you can inherit money because people do not start from equal footing and earn their way up.
I'm actually a phospholipid bilayer
Do not call me a moron if you are going to proceed to contradict yourself.
If some people start off rich and some start off poor. Then are their opportunities equal?
Most inaccurate part is the business tycoon not wanting the cheap immigrant labor for their factory
I'm not sure what the message is. "Oh, no, they cut down all the Truffula trees!" Except the fact ThneedCo owns the seed means they plan on planting replanting the entire forest?
Except they wouldn’t because trees take half a lifetime to mature and capitalist decision making is driven by short term quarterly profits, not long term sustainability. Once the market for Thneeds is decimated by deforestation, they’ll just move the capital to the next investment, leaving the locals without a forest and the thneed workers without jobs. People need to learn that’s how the “free-market” works.
Cam Jones So stupid, not grounded in reality.
No, they would be genetically modifying them to produce more seeds and fabric, and doing it faster. This causes them to be cheaper, and thus more people will want it, and then they will have to make more. *Like in real life.*
Artyom Metro none of your reply addresses the fact that it takes 30 years for trees to mature. You think they are going to stick around and pay their employees for 30 years while they wait for the next set of mature trees to harvest? Or are these trees genetically modified to appear instantly like some fantasy novel?
Artyom Metro .
@@BGcam you know people plant seeds as they go right... You could harvest a forest for 30 years and then come back around to where you started. Or better yet, you could hire contractors to cut down your trees and not long-term employees. As long as people need trees they'll be a market for trees. If everyone wants then but it's not profitable to harvest them then clearly those people aren't paying enough for what they want.
Has anyone else ever felt, while watching a video or reading the comments or listening to people argue, a certain oneness with the universe? A oneness so powerful that you just really want to leave this universe, and feel for a few fleeting moments that you actually can?
Because I just felt that. Right now. And it was _glorious_.
Bob Marley Thanks for the insightful rhyme...but I like my life, thanks. I didn't mean that I wanted to die when I said I could leave. I meant that I felt I could actually travel interdimensionally.
***** Excuse me? I'm 13. Does someone really have to be on drugs to feel that kind of euphoria? I don't think so.
TrekkerLLAP I agree you but just because you're 13 does not mean you are not on drugs, I actually think it makes you higher at risk
Don't sniff glues again or your brains will be real mash.
Guys... I'm not on drugs... and I never sniffed glue... and yeah overkill8436 kind of sad how my generation is deteriorating that way. I'm not a part of that.
Found this years ago, loved it, still do
woah 12 years ago in 2012
i love this so much. This is extremely well done. Props!
You don't know me, but my name's Si, I'm just the O'Hare delivery guy, but it seems like trees might be worth a try, so I say: Let it grow
... I wasn't sure if Satire or Propaganda until the last few seconds.
Riasiru Neovas satire
Riasiru Neovas propaganda
siraganda
somewhere in betwen
Wow so now a person cannot even speak for environment. You really think conspiracies in everything
PragerU kids
What a stereotype, one that's rather extreme.
Why is bashing political parties such a meme?
Be realistic, this depiction of yours isn't true,
we recognize what's ours, and what's not, too.
Like how false the Liberal stereotypes go,
that they're lazy, uncaring drug users, yo!
Take these portrayals with a grain of salt,
I know Seuss would, as parties aren't at fault.
United States or Divided Political Parties;
there's a difference between the two of these.
I judge people by character and that alone,
not by other people's, it's each to their own.
Autobot and Decepticon, Jedi and Sith,
fairness means there's no one "side" to go with.
We don't want to be dragged into your wars,
and no longer support this system of yours.
Accurate
It's odd seeing so many people on this video who seem to forget that satire and hyperbole are kinds of humor
+Lydia Xavier The only reason I support this is because you said Autobot and Decepticon and Jedi and Sith. I love Transformers AND Star Wars
how long did it take you to right that, be honest
mintbreathingdragon An afternoon.
the parody and exaggerated conservative lorax: with illegal immigrants, are trees really our biggest concern?
the actual president, four years later: with illegal immigrants, are trees really our biggest concern?
I know this is late, but now our president is saying what the lorax said, so this doesn't seem exaggerated anymore..
I know this is a bit late but you guys voted for a guy with a wall nut for a brain.
If the Lorax were actually a conservative, he would invest his profits in planting more Truffela Trees, and then everyone could be rich AND have nature.
*****
First of all, your reply has nothing to do with my comment, but I'll answer anyway.
The "no blacks allowed" thing was fifty years ago, and I don't even know what you're saying in the rest of the comment.
*****
Yeah, but the beauty of capitalism is that if someone doesn't want to be an employee, they can start their own company.
Plus, the alternatives to capitalism suck, so...
*****
Immoral actions of a few don't discredit the system, we have laws against monopolies, and it's a doctor's choice what he does and doesn't recommend.
Businesses should have the right to deny service based on ANY reason, including race. You don't have the right to anyone's service.
*****
So what you're saying is that there are no laws against marketing unsafe products without warning?
*****
So, then, the answer isn't less capitalism, but more enforcement of laws.
Okay, but you do realize "the economy" doesn't just mean the stock market and the rich getting richer and all...
It's also everyone's jobs, (including the middle and lower classes) and it's having enough quality goods and services for everyone to live.
Yeah well what's the point of living when Earth looks like planet Mars? Idk what kind of lifestyle you live and what you value. It's foolish to place such values on what you said when there will come a day that there's no resources left for these greedy people to pillage and then there will REALLY be no jobs left.
@@russelstrawmire9817 I know. I didn't say we shouldn't stop destroying planet or anything. I'm just saying if somebody expresses concern about "the economy" they're talking about something important and you shouldn't dismiss them as just a greedy monopolist.
@@ethanpetersen810 Fair enough, fair enough.
a time traveler: *move a chair*
the lorax: