hello. l live in the former KOMMUNIST BLOCK and now l have in my collection soviet makArov and cz-83 9*18. your mak is not soviet but bulgarian. there were 3 producers of exact soviet copy- east germany, bulgaria and china. the cheh military ammo of that time had bullet 4.5 g. and velocity aprox. 390-400 m/s. it could be used only in poligon profile barrel, and NOT in classic barrel. standard soviet service ammo had bullet 6.1 g. and vel. 315 m/s. modern cheh civilian ammo from S/B 6.1 g. and 305 m/s. we prefere here serbian ammo-6.0 g and 320 m/s. and please, TRY TO REMEMBER- not mAkarov but makArov.
The first gun I bought was a CZ 82 earlier this year. I actually got interested in Makarov pistols after I used my dad's FEG AP-MBP at the range, which was the .32 ACP variant of the FEG PA 63, and he let me have it since I liked it so much. But .32 ACP is kind of a weak round so I wanted something more powerful but with similar quality, and that's how I ended up with the CZ 82. I ended up changing the recoil spring to a 19 lb Makarov Wolff spring because I found it a bit too snappy with the stock one, but other than that I really like it.
BTW I stripped the bluing off on my Mak because my slide looked like yours and bought some Oxpho blue from Brownells. I cold steel blued the slide it came out really nice.
Original round for cz82 is the vz82 cartridge which have more power, hard steel bullet thats why the cz have pologonal barrel=only military model cz82.
Sorry, I can’t find anything about another cartridge. This was the Soviet domination era so they required the 9x18. And the polygonal barrel cannot use hardcast lead bullets - they require soft jacketed billets generally.
@@gunfzx use translator, at the end of the text is something about the czech 9×18mm 82cartridge which have cca 370-380J and the standart makarov cca 310J. We also have 7.62 tt cartridge with +18%power for the cz52 pistol
Love the cold war era surplus pistols. Watch out for cz82/83 mags that are marked MFG cz on the floor plate. They are aftermarket and we're not reliable at all in my 83. The originals have the lion with the crossed swords stamped on them.
Have you found that one magazine drops free and the other doesn’t? I have 6 mags for the two CZ 82s I have and 5 drop free one doesn’t. One is not marked with the crossed swords but I can’t remember if that’s the problem one.
@@gunfzx The crossed swords are a Czech military acceptance mark. Magazines with such a mark are almost guaranteed to be reliable, but magazines without it are not necessarily unreliable.
I own both, he the makarov is more concealable and better finish but the CZ has a better trigger (at least in double action) and capacity. I have the CZ 82, a Bulgairan Mak, and a Russian IJ-70 Commercial.
Been sorta collecting the 9x18 mak guns since Dad started me off with a P64. I'm up to CZ 82, P64, P83, Imez single stack, and the double version, and FEG PA63 so far. My actual Russian versions are my least accurate, with the rest far outshining them.
@@gunfzx the Imez models have adjustable sights, but spring loaded. I find they bounce in faster fire, making more a pattern, than a punch-out. My others are tack drivers.
Silas Newsome - sorry, wrong pistol. The CZ was $150 plus tax and transfer - $190 total with a broken grip from AIM Surplus. The Makarov was a fun show out the door at $150. Both were 2019.
Since I’ve decided to live my 2nd Amendment fantasies through you (😉), I think you’re going to need to find yourself an original 9x19mm Parabellum Tokagypt pistol and take it out to the range to see how it does.
@@gunfzx : You sir are a dream maker! 😁👍 PS: Talk to the fellow over at “The Mosin Crate” RUclips channel. He seems to have a successful track record of getting his hands on all kinds of historical and even rare pistols in great condition. If anyone knows how to source a Tokagypt in great condition, it’ll be him.
Failure to feed. Tried different ammo and didn’t help. Bought another mag and didn’t help. Took steel wool to ramp with no change. Maybe shoots 3 rounds in a row then just acts up. So accurate but can’t trust it at all.
@@markmatroni631 yeah i really love the gun for its accuracy and capacity. It’s ambidextrous too. Have you tried a new recoil spring? A new stiffer mag spring?
@@markmatroni631 I’ve changed springs on a couple guns to great success. Wolff springs are not expensive and you can often tune with spring kits they sell.
Thank you- good, informative video about the differences between pistols.
Thanks. That’s the goal - quick and complete.
hello. l live in the former KOMMUNIST BLOCK and now l have in my collection soviet makArov and cz-83 9*18. your mak is not soviet but bulgarian. there were 3 producers of exact soviet copy- east germany, bulgaria and china. the cheh military ammo of that time had bullet 4.5 g. and velocity aprox. 390-400 m/s. it could be used only in poligon profile barrel, and NOT in classic barrel. standard soviet service ammo had bullet 6.1 g. and vel. 315 m/s. modern cheh civilian ammo from S/B 6.1 g. and 305 m/s. we prefere here serbian ammo-6.0 g and 320 m/s. and please, TRY TO REMEMBER- not mAkarov but makArov.
The first gun I bought was a CZ 82 earlier this year. I actually got interested in Makarov pistols after I used my dad's FEG AP-MBP at the range, which was the .32 ACP variant of the FEG PA 63, and he let me have it since I liked it so much. But .32 ACP is kind of a weak round so I wanted something more powerful but with similar quality, and that's how I ended up with the CZ 82. I ended up changing the recoil spring to a 19 lb Makarov Wolff spring because I found it a bit too snappy with the stock one, but other than that I really like it.
@@zanegandini5350 The CZ 82 is still my favorite 9mm Makarov gun
@@zanegandini5350 and the recoil spring replacement is a good idea.
@@gunfzx The polygonal rifling of the CZ82 really makes a world of difference.
BTW I stripped the bluing off on my Mak because my slide looked like yours and bought some Oxpho blue from Brownells. I cold steel blued the slide it came out really nice.
Thanks! Good to know.
I own 2 of each of these. I love them!!
Just got a Russian!
Original round for cz82 is the vz82 cartridge which have more power, hard steel bullet thats why the cz have pologonal barrel=only military model cz82.
Sorry, I can’t find anything about another cartridge. This was the Soviet domination era so they required the 9x18. And the polygonal barrel cannot use hardcast lead bullets - they require soft jacketed billets generally.
@@gunfzx its a Vz82 cartridge. Silver steel light bullet and more power than russian makarov😉
@@gunfzx www.vhu.cz/armadni-pistole-vz-82/ look here😉
Michael Neutert thanks. Too bad I can’t read it
@@gunfzx use translator, at the end of the text is something about the czech 9×18mm 82cartridge which have cca 370-380J and the standart makarov cca 310J. We also have 7.62 tt cartridge with +18%power for the cz52 pistol
I own both. great shooters. I have the commercial russian IJ-70. Very nice video
Thanks. I like them both.
Thanks!
Love the cold war era surplus pistols. Watch out for cz82/83 mags that are marked MFG cz on the floor plate. They are aftermarket and we're not reliable at all in my 83. The originals have the lion with the crossed swords stamped on them.
Have you found that one magazine drops free and the other doesn’t? I have 6 mags for the two CZ 82s I have and 5 drop free one doesn’t. One is not marked with the crossed swords but I can’t remember if that’s the problem one.
@@gunfzx All my originals drop free but the aftermarket sticks slightly
@@gunfzx The crossed swords are a Czech military acceptance mark. Magazines with such a mark are almost guaranteed to be reliable, but magazines without it are not necessarily unreliable.
I own both, he the makarov is more concealable and better finish but the CZ has a better trigger (at least in double action) and capacity. I have the CZ 82, a Bulgairan Mak, and a Russian IJ-70 Commercial.
All true. Got a Polish P-64? Even more concealable. A PA-63 is about equivalent
Been sorta collecting the 9x18 mak guns since Dad started me off with a P64. I'm up to CZ 82, P64, P83, Imez single stack, and the double version, and FEG PA63 so far. My actual Russian versions are my least accurate, with the rest far outshining them.
Good collection! I don’t have either IMEZ but I did pick up an East German Makarov - beautiful.
@@gunfzx the Imez models have adjustable sights, but spring loaded. I find they bounce in faster fire, making more a pattern, than a punch-out. My others are tack drivers.
I use the CZ 82 as a house gun these days.
Good pistol
Where did you find a Mak for $150 in 2020 ? I paid $225 for mine in 2017. I also paid $200 for my CZ 82 in 2018.
Crazy crazy deal for a rusty one at a gun show with two mags! I snapped that right up no questions asked.
When did you pick that CZ82 up for 150?
Last October I believe. At a gun show - surprisingly low price. Almost ridiculous.
@@gunfzx really! Hell of a deal. Like when I got a my Star BM9 for 160.
Silas Newsome - sorry, wrong pistol. The CZ was $150 plus tax and transfer - $190 total with a broken grip from AIM Surplus. The Makarov was a fun show out the door at $150. Both were 2019.
Silas Newsome - that Star’s a good deal!
Sweet guns. You muricans have all the fun and your 2a. Keep it that way
1:16 Isn't the "Real Makarov" the Walther PP
True, ‘tis but a copy of the PP.
The CZ82 was and is superior to the Mac
Truth
I believe that is what Brandon Herrera carrys. They are cool old school pistols
Mark Ruffalo? Nice video
That’s me!
I have a czech cz82 double stacked 9 and buddy let me tell you hwhat
Absolutely. Really nice pistols
Since I’ve decided to live my 2nd Amendment fantasies through you (😉), I think you’re going to need to find yourself an original 9x19mm Parabellum Tokagypt pistol and take it out to the range to see how it does.
Good idea! Looking into it! Send me any leads you find.
Living life vicariously through others is an excellent idea
@@gunfzx : You sir are a dream maker! 😁👍
PS: Talk to the fellow over at “The Mosin Crate” RUclips channel. He seems to have a successful track record of getting his hands on all kinds of historical and even rare pistols in great condition. If anyone knows how to source a Tokagypt in great condition, it’ll be him.
@@samy7013 - just bought a couple of Israeli IMI Jericho 941s from him. Really cool stuff
@@gunfzx : I should have known that you already dealt with him before, given your diverse and extremely interesting collection! 😎👍
My CZ 83 is a failure to feed machine.
What kind of failures?
Failure to feed. Tried different ammo and didn’t help. Bought another mag and didn’t help. Took steel wool to ramp with no change. Maybe shoots 3 rounds in a row then just acts up. So accurate but can’t trust it at all.
@@markmatroni631 yeah i really love the gun for its accuracy and capacity. It’s ambidextrous too. Have you tried a new recoil spring? A new stiffer mag spring?
I didn’t change springs.
@@markmatroni631 I’ve changed springs on a couple guns to great success. Wolff springs are not expensive and you can often tune with spring kits they sell.
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