I personally like the Soviet adaptation of "Through the looking glass". It perfectly captures the experience of a dream, where everything is nonsensical but somehow makes sense.
This is why my style of writing is always just, 1. Create a world with strict rules 2. Create a character who likes to break said rules 3. Make up excuses along the way for why the character likes breaking said rules (that makes perfect and logical sense, which, as the story progresses, actually enhances both the character and the world they are in, as well as the character's relationship TO said world) There! Chaos in a bottle! My favorite way to write! And judging by all the positive comments, I know it works too.
I find it fascinating how your take on Alice in Wonderland is the opposite of every other RUclipsr I've seen talk about it. Countless people say it's because it's nonsense with no care even for a consistent internal logic and the adaptations fail when they try to give it consistent world building.
i think this manga called billy bat somewhat is similar to dandandan and alice in wonderland i truly recommend you read it if you haven't already and i also think Caroline is pretty similar too
I think this video gets a few things wrong - but it matters. First, fiction which doesn't follow much if any logic still can be good (unlike what is softly implied here). In my opinion, this even extents to Alice in Wonderland itself; this book's logic is incredibly loose and stuff in it just happens with no good reason. Within its boundaries, you could say that it is randomness for the sake of it a good chunk of the time (for instance, why did the baby turn into a pig?) - which would be seen as bad according to this video. Same thing applies to something like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory; this book is filled with nonsense with little to no internal logic but is it bad beacuse of that? Not at all. Secondly, saying that coincidences don't happen in fiction is simply not true. They can occur without the author's intent. Let's use Alice as an example again - in chapter III there is a fragment mentioning "Edwin and Morcar, earls of Mercia and Northumbria" - to which, it turns out, Lewis (not Louis... sorry but I had to) was distantly related likely without even knowing about it. A complete coincidence which can spark theories and such without an intent.
This is off topic, but I'm reading the sci-fi novel "Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said" by Philip K. Dick, and I realized that he relies on things that other writers, as well as some writing channels supposedly say makes ones writing "weaker." This is stuff like a)avoiding adverbs, of which Dick uses a lot. Ex. He said sharply. b) He also uses words that other authors and writing channels say are distancing language by using words like feeling or realized. Example, “Okay,” he said, feeling bitter and resentful. c) and he tells a lot, as that example of feeling bitter and resentful shows. He did this often. He tells feelings instead of shows them. His novel is so chock-full of this stuff that it's basically his writing style. Yet, while reading it, I still enjoy it and am immersed in the story. So is the writing advice regarding all this stuff just nitpicking? Are these things really that important? I get that showing at the right moments is important, but the rest of it I'm not quite sure. Philip K. Dick is a legendary writer and seeing him employ these things frequently in his writing is fascinating, as other authors and writing channels say these make writing "weaker." Would love to hear your take about this topic some time in the future! Awesome channel! Keep doing great work! Cheers!
Technically yes, but even when you roll dice in a DnD game, you are still influencing the events as the writer. And nothing aside from livestreaming your writing process would allow us to properly assume it's the case.
You NEEEEEEED to read Mieruko chan It captures having a strange world with strange but consistent rules so perfectly Don't watch the anime tho. Read the manga. It's physically impossible to regret As long as you read the manga and do not even look up the anime
I remember reading a bit back in 2019 when it was first coming out. Didn't really hold my attention too much beyond the initial chapters. I can agree the fanservice in the anime makes it even more hard to sit through.
@@ScritRighter Fair, but, it's one of the best things I've read. So much so that I literally forgot it had fanservice and had to confirm, or maybe I'm just numb. You have to give it another go, though The world has rules, principles and lore that unravels as you go on. The only downside is that the mangaka releases a new chapter once a month
Farai mai delle analisi su opere come romanzi o altro? Perché a me piace alquanto La Saga di Geralt di Rivia di Sapkowski, ma non riesco bene a identificare gli elementi che me lo fanno apprezzare così tanto, e un analisi dell'opera fatta da qualcuno che ne sa sarebbe perfetta a mio parere
While I love your video, putting some of your more opinionated and less objective thoughts takes away from parts of this video. Especially considering the examples are used say that they are simply escapists fantasy with logic that is only made to convice others of a story than random chance, downplaying them entirely. None the less, love your thoughts on rabbit holes and how to write them though. Hope to see more videos about writing
I mostly agree with your advice, but it feels like you’re sort of using it to politically grandstand in your videos. With this one in particular, it feels like you only use right-leaning conspiracies while ignoring a lot of left-leaning ones, which I think would sort of balance it out. I understand that you’re left-leaning, but still I feel like your videos could use a bit of nuance.
@@ScritRighter I don’t know any specific ones. I just know people generally like to jump to things when they’re emotionally volatile and believe in a certain cause, whether that be on the left or right. I just felt like that was worth acknowledging since you tend to use right-leaning examples more often, which makes me feel like you’re being biased against them, even though both sides are guilty of it.
@@FiendaroÖ I don't know any specific leftist conspiracy theories either. If you don't know anything specific, then why assume it's because I'm not being fair? Could it not also be that there are more prevalent right leaning theories which I made examples of simply because I knew of them? And you say 'both sides are guilty' and yet you fail to produce any specific examples of leftist conspiracies. It sounds like you've made an assumptions that both sides are equally bad when it's likely the case one side is much worse than the other.
I personally like the Soviet adaptation of "Through the looking glass". It perfectly captures the experience of a dream, where everything is nonsensical but somehow makes sense.
This is why my style of writing is always just,
1. Create a world with strict rules
2. Create a character who likes to break said rules
3. Make up excuses along the way for why the character likes breaking said rules (that makes perfect and logical sense, which, as the story progresses, actually enhances both the character and the world they are in, as well as the character's relationship TO said world)
There! Chaos in a bottle! My favorite way to write! And judging by all the positive comments, I know it works too.
*[Chaos in a bottle]* is a top tier one phrase descriptor *_*whispers*_*_ that I will steal without anyone else knowing._
The classic BEN creepypasta always brings me back
Ben Drowned
I find it fascinating how your take on Alice in Wonderland is the opposite of every other RUclipsr I've seen talk about it. Countless people say it's because it's nonsense with no care even for a consistent internal logic and the adaptations fail when they try to give it consistent world building.
I love me a good conspiracy theory,they are always entertaining to listen to
Azumanga Daioh detected , happyness activated.
Dandadan will be generational, baby.
i think this manga called billy bat somewhat is similar to dandandan and alice in wonderland i truly recommend you read it if you haven't already and i also think Caroline is pretty similar too
how is your advice so good? I'm gonna have to find out what works you've written because your advice is insane!!
Amazing video! Thanks for the writing tips!
12:10 based fellow utena enjoyer
You know . Propaganda and conspiracy theories have a lot of similarities if you think about it .
very true.
I think this video gets a few things wrong - but it matters. First, fiction which doesn't follow much if any logic still can be good (unlike what is softly implied here). In my opinion, this even extents to Alice in Wonderland itself; this book's logic is incredibly loose and stuff in it just happens with no good reason. Within its boundaries, you could say that it is randomness for the sake of it a good chunk of the time (for instance, why did the baby turn into a pig?) - which would be seen as bad according to this video. Same thing applies to something like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory; this book is filled with nonsense with little to no internal logic but is it bad beacuse of that? Not at all. Secondly, saying that coincidences don't happen in fiction is simply not true. They can occur without the author's intent. Let's use Alice as an example again - in chapter III there is a fragment mentioning "Edwin and Morcar, earls of Mercia and Northumbria" - to which, it turns out, Lewis (not Louis... sorry but I had to) was distantly related likely without even knowing about it. A complete coincidence which can spark theories and such without an intent.
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@@naturequeen2597 😭
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This is off topic, but I'm reading the sci-fi novel "Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said" by Philip K. Dick, and I realized that he relies on things that other writers, as well as some writing channels supposedly say makes ones writing "weaker." This is stuff like a)avoiding adverbs, of which Dick uses a lot. Ex. He said sharply. b) He also uses words that other authors and writing channels say are distancing language by using words like feeling or realized. Example, “Okay,” he said, feeling bitter and resentful. c) and he tells a lot, as that example of feeling bitter and resentful shows. He did this often. He tells feelings instead of shows them. His novel is so chock-full of this stuff that it's basically his writing style. Yet, while reading it, I still enjoy it and am immersed in the story. So is the writing advice regarding all this stuff just nitpicking? Are these things really that important? I get that showing at the right moments is important, but the rest of it I'm not quite sure. Philip K. Dick is a legendary writer and seeing him employ these things frequently in his writing is fascinating, as other authors and writing channels say these make writing "weaker." Would love to hear your take about this topic some time in the future! Awesome channel! Keep doing great work! Cheers!
i didnt know dandadan already has an anime adaptation
It's coming out in October.
well damn...
Now I'm interested.
10:00 Well, you _could_ decide on aspects of your story completely at random (by rolling dice, say, or the like)
Technically yes, but even when you roll dice in a DnD game, you are still influencing the events as the writer. And nothing aside from livestreaming your writing process would allow us to properly assume it's the case.
You NEEEEEEED to read Mieruko chan
It captures having a strange world with strange but consistent rules so perfectly
Don't watch the anime tho. Read the manga. It's physically impossible to regret
As long as you read the manga and do not even look up the anime
I remember reading a bit back in 2019 when it was first coming out. Didn't really hold my attention too much beyond the initial chapters. I can agree the fanservice in the anime makes it even more hard to sit through.
@@ScritRighter Fair, but, it's one of the best things I've read. So much so that I literally forgot it had fanservice and had to confirm, or maybe I'm just numb.
You have to give it another go, though
The world has rules, principles and lore that unravels as you go on.
The only downside is that the mangaka releases a new chapter once a month
Farai mai delle analisi su opere come romanzi o altro? Perché a me piace alquanto La Saga di Geralt di Rivia di Sapkowski, ma non riesco bene a identificare gli elementi che me lo fanno apprezzare così tanto, e un analisi dell'opera fatta da qualcuno che ne sa sarebbe perfetta a mio parere
Haven't read The Witcher, but if I ever do I might use it as an example in a future video.
While I love your video, putting some of your more opinionated and less objective thoughts takes away from parts of this video. Especially considering the examples are used say that they are simply escapists fantasy with logic that is only made to convice others of a story than random chance, downplaying them entirely. None the less, love your thoughts on rabbit holes and how to write them though. Hope to see more videos about writing
11:28 "The fan theories can also get it wrong." Where? Pyro from TF2 is still gender ambiguous.
Which means that every guess is free game.
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rapunzel better
I mostly agree with your advice, but it feels like you’re sort of using it to politically grandstand in your videos. With this one in particular, it feels like you only use right-leaning conspiracies while ignoring a lot of left-leaning ones, which I think would sort of balance it out. I understand that you’re left-leaning, but still I feel like your videos could use a bit of nuance.
Left leaning conspiracy theories being what?/genq
@@ScritRighter I don’t know any specific ones. I just know people generally like to jump to things when they’re emotionally volatile and believe in a certain cause, whether that be on the left or right. I just felt like that was worth acknowledging since you tend to use right-leaning examples more often, which makes me feel like you’re being biased against them, even though both sides are guilty of it.
@@FiendaroÖ I don't know any specific leftist conspiracy theories either. If you don't know anything specific, then why assume it's because I'm not being fair? Could it not also be that there are more prevalent right leaning theories which I made examples of simply because I knew of them?
And you say 'both sides are guilty' and yet you fail to produce any specific examples of leftist conspiracies. It sounds like you've made an assumptions that both sides are equally bad when it's likely the case one side is much worse than the other.