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Problems with Wolverine Reels2Digital MovieMaker reel not turning.
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2017
- UPDATE MAR 2019: Some continue to say the sticky belt is by design, not a flaw. But, my latest video (a link at the end of this video) shows how the sticky belt "goop" can build up on the drive pulley so much that the belt is stuck like Elmers glue. Even if not totally stuck, the adhesion between the perpetually sticky belt and the pulley can cause intermittent "stuttering" in the recorded movie. This applies only to the 1st versions of the Wolverine Reels2Digital MovieMaker. The were quick to replace the faulty belt drive systems on newer versions and I imagine their dual motors should work well.
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The drive belt in the Wolverine Reels2Digital MovieMaker can melt (to those who say it's not "melting" well, it is) creating potentially serious problems. I have added a video showing that the inside temperature of the Wolverine is about 130 degrees F or more, immediately adjacent to a belt pulley: • 1st Generation Wolveri...
I do not think that the belt is melting. What you are feeling is a belt dressing that is applied to make the belt sticky so that a simple non-toothed belt drive can be used.The noise you are hearing is actually a spring which forms a very simple slip-clutch that allows the grey plastic drive 'hub' to slip on the metal spindle that is driven by the belt. The belt turns and the spindle spins and if there is no drag on the take-up reel, the reel will turn to take up the film. If the reel cannot move (since the film is only few about 3/8" per second), the slip clutch allow the reel to stay still even though the spindle is still driven.This is a common mechanism that has been used in virtually every movie projector ever made since the take-up reel needs to turn at different speeds depending on how much film is on the take-up reel. The goopy belt isn't melting -- it's goopy to prevent slipping.If the take up is stopping, it is probably because the slip clutch is not able to maintain enough friction to turn the takeup reel, and may be precipitated due to your adding a larger take-up and using some kind of 'belt' from the Wolverine's take-up reel to drive your larger system. This probably puts more drag on the slip-clutch (which is really just two pieces of plastic and a spring) which cause the failure.What is VERY curious, is that MY Wolverine doesn't have a belt drive for the take-up. It has a separate motor with a gear drive to the spindle. It still has the same slip-clutch.I would suggest that you adapt some other drive mechanism for your large size take-up reels and not rely on the Wolverine for the take-up tension or for rewind. Also, make sure that something helps un-spool the supply side so that the inertial drag of the larger reel doesn't cause the feed dog pin to break the sprockets or to be pulled out of alignment. Timing is everything to insure no vertical jitter.
The frustrating thing is there aren't a whole lot of choices as far as 8mm to video transfer machines. I understand a company wanting to keep the cost low to sell more units, BUT their units could have been so much better with a little more effort in improvements and a slightly higher cost increase. It's nice I can get the Pro model for $400, but I would have gladly paid a few hundred more than that for a even better model. Some things like the excessive compression in the video could be fixed for $0.
My Wolverine also uses a belt. I communicated with them in the hopes of buying a spare belt, but was told that none were available since they now use a motor for the take-up reel. Evidently the units with belts were the pilot models. I have since added a small case fan and drilled some vent holes which work fine in keeping the unit cool. By the way this all occurred after scanning over 120 reels of film without any problems, although I did notice the SD card was warm after each scan.
Bob - I talked to the techie guy at Wolverine. He assured me that the goo on the belt is part of the design. He was helpful in suggesting remedies for my sometimes jerky (8mm only) transfers. It now occurs to me that the 8mm film may be shrunk a bit - this might cause the claw to grab the film someplace slightly removed from the 8mm spec.
I have such a device FILIM 2 DIGITAL MOVIE MAKER
But there is a problem when I convert the elephants to an SD memory card at the top of the image there is a fold and a stripe for the Japanese fold
What do I do please I need an urgent answer
Thanks for your informative video on this 8mm scanner. I am tempted to purchase one but am worried about the wide range of very inconsistent reviews, ranging from "marvellous" to "rubbish". As you have shown, the heat problem can be overcome with some DIY modifications. What really concerns me is the criticisms regarding low resolution. While many claim it gives much better results than 'shooting off the wall' others say otherwise. I am too old to wait for a 'Mark 2' version of which there is yet no mention so might just have to take the risk and purchase one. 💸🤔.
Just a suggestion, but for replacement belts in cases like this I've used readily obtainable 'O' rings with much success. Even used small ones to replace perished rubber on turntable idler pulled.
The people who call it "rubbish" don't actually seem to own one. It think too many people look at technical specs and say, "Oh that won't work." We routinely watch our converted movies on a 40 inch HDTV and it looks great. I just copied some 16mm film using the "shooting off the wall" method: doing so made me very happy that I no longer have to go through that method only to get flickering, poorly-exposed, crooked copies of original films.
Wolverine has taken this problem seriously and added vent holes and a circuit board cooloing fan to the Moviemaker!
"Unsatisfactory"? You must be British. I had the same problem with belt melt in a Super 8 projector back in the 1970's. Wishing you the very best!
It wouldn't surprise me to see this in an old piece of gear but these just hit the market less than a year ago. I am wondering if perhaps heat caused this. Whenever I finish a recording session with the Wolverine and remove the SD card, the card is quite warm, almost hot. This has a large motor and some circuit boards, all generating heat, but there are zero vent holes! I may have to pick up one of those BBQ thermometers with the sensor on a cord: running the unit with that sealed inside should let us know if it's too hot inside.
That could be from heat. But I seen rubber do this from belts to wheels in turntables. Makes me think they used old stock belts or some cheap brand belt. Best thing would be a new belt and clean up that old rubber using alcohol. Also looking at this unit inside you could even drill a hole and get a longer belt to run right from motor to take up unit for larger reels. and ditches there take up shaft total.
Also your right about heat but being that is a editor style 8 mm unit in a way and also projectors even with fans were still warm inside of them. So I am thinking bad elt cheap rubber or just old stock.
They have redesigned it so that the take up reel has it's own motor and gear drive: no more belt just 3mm from the 130 degree stepper motor