Yeah I agree. The only shortcoming is when I get too much snow in front of my snow pusher and lose traction. Honestly I could personally probably get by with turf tires and be better in winter, but it’s not enough of a concern to buy new tires. If I really wanted improvement, I could run chains in winter. Then the tread pattern matters not.
I have a set of r4 and turfs for my bx and I have no complaints with my r4 tires which I run 75% of the time and I just put my turfs on for winter when there calling for the 1st snow
One more thing those R14 center lugs add - they resist side slippage incredibly well. Great for steep mowing where a turf tire would probably end up doing more damage from slippage.
Most of the time, I love my R1s. The tractor spends time in the woods, pulling a plow, and brush hogging trails and field. My rears are 41 years and about 1600 hours old and on the way out… they do tear up the yard, but I’m not in the yard much and it’s not exactly nicely manicured anyway. If I was buying a new tractor (which I would want to be heavier than my Ford 1700) the R14s are definitely intriguing.
I had turf tires on my tractor for many years until they started looking pretty tired and the fronts kept going flat. They worked very well in snow. With that said, I changed to the R14 tires a couple years ago and I really like them. Good all around tire for mowing, loader work, and snow.
@@gem1n12 my R14 do fine for mowing my lawn. I have no issues. Also, when mowing steep areas, I have much better traction than the turf tires I used to have on my tractor.
Hey you left out one of my favorites, almost bald R1's! They act more like R4's but much cheaper 😂 Thanks for the video, I have R1's on my backhoe and R4 on my kubota. Like you I do finish mowing with a zero turn. So on my next kubota I think I'll give the R14's a shot.
Love my turf tires. I'm a homeowner, so most of the places I drive are grass, or the driveway. I use my L2250 to plow the driveway (with the bucket on my 300' driveway in MA. Was crushed stone, now paved.) Turf tires work fine for me.
I have the R14’s on a Kubota MX6000 hst. These are great tires! I had R4’s on a similar tractor previously. I didn’t have that tractor to long, before I wished for a more aggressive tire. The R14 excels at loader work, toughness, and traction, whereas the R4 excels in in only 2 areas, loader work and toughness. The R14 is probably perfect for most people.
When we got our Grand L last year, Kubota couldn't get them for us on our 3560. We upgraded from the R1 to the R4. That upgrade was around 800 dollars. I have heard it's more than that for the R14. R1 tires even on a small tractor are just too rough on the grass, but they do have great traction.
Great discussion. I have been very impressed with the R14 tires too. But there's no doubt that for our property, the R1 (Ag) tires are necessary. Plenty of mud and wet areas.
It was either Turf or the R14 when I was buying a new Kubota tractor in 2020, Glad I went with the R14! Maybe not quite as good in the snow, but the extra traction on dirt is well worth it!! And they are still pretty easy on the grass
I loved my turf tires, they worked great in northern Michigan snow too. We had mostly sand so they never loaded up. They have great traction because they had so much contact to the ground.
Nice overview of the different tires! I grooved my R4s last fall, it did improve snow traction. (rear only.) I use a rear blade and FL bucket for snow removal. I would imagine traction will be a little better overall with other conditions.
After owning three tractors and having R1, r4 and now r14 tires and over 2000hrs of operation I can definitely say that for most work, r14 are the absolute best. They do lack a little in deep mud where r1 tend to shine.
Grew up on a working farm with nothing but R1's to even consider. I have R3's on my L3700 and can confirm his analysis. If it isn't mud....they are way better than you would think for just about everything... Don't sell turfs short. They work really well for most homeowners or anyone mowing a yard or moving snow.
I remember when nearly everyone had knobby tires on their vehicles during winter. Similar tread pattern to turf tire only deeper and wider spaced, so can see how turf tire may work better in snow.
My ears perked up when you said the R1s wear quicker! Having not been given an option for tires when we bought our tractor (our first), I thought Great! I'll be able to replace our R1s with an R14 soon! Well, with just over 20 hours on our tractor, it'll take a while to get to 1500-2000 hrs! 😂
I made the big mistake of getting the R-4 tire on solid rear rims for my kubota.They have poor traction for what I use my tractor for,also can't run snow chains do to lack of clearance between tire and fender.I wish I would have gotten the R-1 tire on adjustable style rims.BIG MISTAKE ON MY PART..
Can you add the R14s to an L6060HSTC with BH92 hoe now? I was wondering if you could if the computer of the older models would support the size for the odometer to be correct. I currently have R4 and I don’t like how they can slide sideways in the woods when the pack with mud. I have a B2601 with R14s I use for finish mowing and I’ve really loved them.
I have an mx6000 with r14’s and after having r4’s the r14’s are much better in snow and also ride better. One downfall to the r14’s is kubota has no answer for wheel weights with the r14 rims yet on the Mx series anyways. I would like to add wheel weights but they won’t bolt up to the r14 rims.
Hi, I have watched your videos for a while now and they are great. I’m purchasing a new grand L4060 and the dealer advised I can’t get R14’s for it… are you aware of any solutions? Thanks, Jason. NB, Canada
My customers like them overall. One issue they are not nearly as strong as an R4. And... they have a short profile meaning the hold less Ballas. That is an issue for loader operation. I'm still an R4 and cross Har lug fan.
I would like to know how R14's do for tractors making hay. Currently, my tractors see a lot of road use for making hay and I also would like a tire that performs better on harder ground without having to dig. Honestly I mower hay with a tractor pulling a 9ft haybine that had turf tires and it worked amazing, until the dew started to settle in the later evenings. In theory I see the R14 being a good mix. The reason why I am overlooking the R4 is the heavy sidewall causes for a very rough ride when mowing at 6-7mph.
There is probably some merit here. You can't run low PSI like a radial R1, but i would guess it would be a nice improvement over a bias Would road better regardless.
R14’s ride rough. Not as bad as R4’s do- But much harsher than R1’s M7060 with 1100 hrs . Mine are loaded with 600 lbs of weight added- running 10 lbs of Pressure rear and 18 in front.
This would be a great video for FRONT tires. The FRONT TIRES are the ones that fail under heavy loader operations. Can I buy a larger, heavier duty tire for the front?
The R4 and R14 are both heavy duty tires. They where designed with loader work in mind, and have stiffer sidewalls and a stronger construction vs a R1.
Neil I’m from Southwest Mississippi, I enjoy your videos! I have a 2017 MX5200 with about 250 hours. My seat has no tears or holes but the material has came loose from the seat pan. Do you know if this is common and is there a fix for this?
You missed R2 .. almost paddle tires .. R1 aren't the "most aggressive" & they come in numerous proportions of lug thickness vs depth & lug angle for clearing mud to get down to where traction is as well as the center tread lug overlap for tarmac .. cheap vs OEM rubber quality & cracking even with newish rubber .. radial vs crossply benefits & durability not even mentioned
Love my 14’s but if you want to stay married… stay off the lawn…especially spring…my wife still hasn’t let me back in the house!!😎🤣🤣👊🏻 Turfs I think support chains better too… But I’m never given up my 14’s!!❤️👊🏻
R4's get a lot of hate but I find them to be absolutely fantastic.
Yeah I agree. The only shortcoming is when I get too much snow in front of my snow pusher and lose traction. Honestly I could personally probably get by with turf tires and be better in winter, but it’s not enough of a concern to buy new tires. If I really wanted improvement, I could run chains in winter. Then the tread pattern matters not.
I really loved my R4 alot and traded in my Bx2380 for a Bx2680 with R14 and I not a fan with them but they do good so far
My R4’s are ok except on a side hill when wet. Takes off sliding
I use mine to mow with the mid mount mower and no problems, used on a GC1725M
I have a set of r4 and turfs for my bx and I have no complaints with my r4 tires which I run 75% of the time and I just put my turfs on for winter when there calling for the 1st snow
One more thing those R14 center lugs add - they resist side slippage incredibly well. Great for steep mowing where a turf tire would probably end up doing more damage from slippage.
Most of the time, I love my R1s. The tractor spends time in the woods, pulling a plow, and brush hogging trails and field. My rears are 41 years and about 1600 hours old and on the way out… they do tear up the yard, but I’m not in the yard much and it’s not exactly nicely manicured anyway. If I was buying a new tractor (which I would want to be heavier than my Ford 1700) the R14s are definitely intriguing.
I had turf tires on my tractor for many years until they started looking pretty tired and the fronts kept going flat. They worked very well in snow. With that said, I changed to the R14 tires a couple years ago and I really like them. Good all around tire for mowing, loader work, and snow.
How do they do on the lawn? Debating between the r4 and r14 for mostly finish mowing a large lawn.
@@gem1n12 my R14 do fine for mowing my lawn. I have no issues. Also, when mowing steep areas, I have much better traction than the turf tires I used to have on my tractor.
Hey you left out one of my favorites, almost bald R1's! They act more like R4's but much cheaper 😂 Thanks for the video, I have R1's on my backhoe and R4 on my kubota. Like you I do finish mowing with a zero turn. So on my next kubota I think I'll give the R14's a shot.
Love my turf tires. I'm a homeowner, so most of the places I drive are grass, or the driveway. I use my L2250 to plow the driveway (with the bucket on my 300' driveway in MA. Was crushed stone, now paved.) Turf tires work fine for me.
I have the R14’s on a Kubota MX6000 hst.
These are great tires!
I had R4’s on a similar tractor previously. I didn’t have that tractor to long, before I wished for a more aggressive tire.
The R14 excels at loader work, toughness, and traction, whereas the R4 excels in in only 2 areas, loader work and toughness.
The R14 is probably perfect for most people.
How did the R4 do vs the R14 on lawn damage?
When we got our Grand L last year, Kubota couldn't get them for us on our 3560. We upgraded from the R1 to the R4. That upgrade was around 800 dollars. I have heard it's more than that for the R14. R1 tires even on a small tractor are just too rough on the grass, but they do have great traction.
Thanks for all your videos have not watched one without learning something.
THERE IT IS!! the R14 tire video haha
Probably the best explanation of tire applications and differences I've seen.
Great discussion. I have been very impressed with the R14 tires too. But there's no doubt that for our property, the R1 (Ag) tires are necessary. Plenty of mud and wet areas.
It was either Turf or the R14 when I was buying a new Kubota tractor in 2020, Glad I went with the R14! Maybe not quite as good in the snow, but the extra traction on dirt is well worth it!! And they are still pretty easy on the grass
I loved my turf tires, they worked great in northern Michigan snow too. We had mostly sand so they never loaded up. They have great traction because they had so much contact to the ground.
Nice overview of the different tires! I grooved my R4s last fall, it did improve snow traction. (rear only.) I use a rear blade and FL bucket for snow removal. I would imagine traction will be a little better overall with other conditions.
After owning three tractors and having R1, r4 and now r14 tires and over 2000hrs of operation I can definitely say that for most work, r14 are the absolute best. They do lack a little in deep mud where r1 tend to shine.
Grew up on a working farm with nothing but R1's to even consider. I have R3's on my L3700 and can confirm his analysis. If it isn't mud....they are way better than you would think for just about everything... Don't sell turfs short. They work really well for most homeowners or anyone mowing a yard or moving snow.
I remember when nearly everyone had knobby tires on their vehicles during winter. Similar tread pattern to turf tire only deeper and wider spaced, so can see how turf tire may work better in snow.
R1 Radial 👍
My ears perked up when you said the R1s wear quicker! Having not been given an option for tires when we bought our tractor (our first), I thought Great! I'll be able to replace our R1s with an R14 soon! Well, with just over 20 hours on our tractor, it'll take a while to get to 1500-2000 hrs! 😂
I made the big mistake of getting the R-4 tire on solid rear rims for my kubota.They have poor traction for what I use my tractor for,also can't run snow chains do to lack of clearance between tire and fender.I wish I would have gotten the R-1 tire on adjustable style rims.BIG MISTAKE ON MY PART..
R14 In the woods all day.
nice discussion on tires
How about any opinion on the New kubota R4 compared to R14?
Soil compaction should also be considered when choosing tyre types. And why isn't the term 'lug' never used?
Can you add the R14s to an L6060HSTC with BH92 hoe now? I was wondering if you could if the computer of the older models would support the size for the odometer to be correct. I currently have R4 and I don’t like how they can slide sideways in the woods when the pack with mud. I have a B2601 with R14s I use for finish mowing and I’ve really loved them.
The R 14 looks like a mud terrain from the off road world. Nice tire
I have an mx6000 with r14’s and after having r4’s the r14’s are much better in snow and also ride better. One downfall to the r14’s is kubota has no answer for wheel weights with the r14 rims yet on the Mx series anyways. I would like to add wheel weights but they won’t bolt up to the r14 rims.
Hi, I have watched your videos for a while now and they are great. I’m purchasing a new grand L4060 and the dealer advised I can’t get R14’s for it… are you aware of any solutions? Thanks, Jason. NB, Canada
Simply not offered on that model
My customers like them overall. One issue they are not nearly as strong as an R4. And... they have a short profile meaning the hold less Ballas. That is an issue for loader operation. I'm still an R4 and cross Har lug fan.
what's the highest horse power, rops tractor kubota will offer the R14 tires with?
Are R14 available for the L3560?
Very good food for thought. Thanks!
Who did the R4 tires switch back to turf tires hopefully will ride better
I would like to know how R14's do for tractors making hay. Currently, my tractors see a lot of road use for making hay and I also would like a tire that performs better on harder ground without having to dig. Honestly I mower hay with a tractor pulling a 9ft haybine that had turf tires and it worked amazing, until the dew started to settle in the later evenings. In theory I see the R14 being a good mix. The reason why I am overlooking the R4 is the heavy sidewall causes for a very rough ride when mowing at 6-7mph.
There is probably some merit here. You can't run low PSI like a radial R1, but i would guess it would be a nice improvement over a bias Would road better regardless.
R14’s ride rough. Not as bad as R4’s do- But much harsher than R1’s M7060 with 1100 hrs . Mine are loaded with 600 lbs of weight added- running 10 lbs of Pressure rear and 18 in front.
You got r1w nd r2 tires in the south
Are the R-14’s as heavy duty as the R-4 for loader work?
I have R4’s wish I had R14’s
This would be a great video for FRONT tires.
The FRONT TIRES are the ones that fail under heavy loader operations. Can I buy a larger, heavier duty tire for the front?
The R4 and R14 are both heavy duty tires. They where designed with loader work in mind, and have stiffer sidewalls and a stronger construction vs a R1.
@@lanceolot22 boss man cheapened out and put 24” R1 ag tires on the feedlot loader tractor, man they squish a lot with a 7ft bucket full of grain….
Excellent information. Thank you
The only thing that kept me from going with the R14 was the supply delay.
The most aggressive is the R2 but I understand where you come from most people have no use for an R2
R14 was the right choice for my Lx3310. Now if I could just afford the BH77 and a Reverse tiller lol
Neil I’m from Southwest Mississippi, I enjoy your videos! I have a 2017 MX5200 with about 250 hours. My seat has no tears or holes but the material has came loose from the seat pan. Do you know if this is common and is there a fix for this?
It happens. No easy fix. We usually replace the seat.
R1 for real work. R4 to look cool but still get stuck. Turf to get stuck in damp situations
For some it will be.
You missed R2 .. almost paddle tires .. R1 aren't the "most aggressive" & they come in numerous proportions of lug thickness vs depth & lug angle for clearing mud to get down to where traction is as well as the center tread lug overlap for tarmac .. cheap vs OEM rubber quality & cracking even with newish rubber .. radial vs crossply benefits & durability not even mentioned
But don't forget the R2 rice and canes! haha. Not sure if yall really deal with anything like that up in your area
After all this, I'm very tired now. 😵💫😃
Love my 14’s but if you want to stay married… stay off the lawn…especially spring…my wife still hasn’t let me back in the house!!😎🤣🤣👊🏻
Turfs I think support chains better too…
But I’m never given up my 14’s!!❤️👊🏻
Not even close to r4's for durability & endurance!
What size tires are the big ones stacked on each other at 8:35 into the video…
??