@@Tombo45678 Data books stated that the Raikage is faster than light even during the 4th Grade Ninja War and Minato during this time is still faster than him in his base state while Naruto proved he was faster than him in KCM1. With Minato also having a KCM form that would boost his speed even further. Idk if Sage Mode boosts all physical aspects but we know for a fact Strength is definitely one of them. Unlike Kizaru who is limited by going in one direction when completely turned into Light unless a mirror reflects him somewhere else and also has to be tangible in some way to actually land his attacks Minato has no such limitations on him. Then there are jutsu stated to be Light like Darui's Laser Circus that Minato would easily be able to dodge and in base amongst other certain Ninja. So there's plenty of evidence supporting this.
And see that's the thing instead of taking the mentality that he needs a stronger Army instead of being stronger himself things would have been different for him. He would still try to make the strongest army but he might actually be on King's level if not a little closer to some of the tops in the verse if he just worked on himself and made himself stronger no matter what.
@@casperdafriendlyghost6301 bro even if that was somehow possible what do you mean dismantle him he is sand that's already dimantled he would just form again you can't hurt him without water or haki
@@casperdafriendlyghost6301He can still control the sand. Just because Garou puts his chakra into it doesn't exactly mean Crocodile is gonna have no control
Whoever made that matchup must not like Sakura at all because she's getting clapped. Or the show Naruto at all for that matter Edit: no I'm not gonna argue with anyone on this it was a joke comment I don't give a f who wins-
You forgot how garp literally destroyed mountains just to practice breaking don chinjao's fucking haki coated noggin which was used to break an ice continent
@@rances4418 You still cant compare people that "use" sand vs someone that "is" sand. Like 1 barchan of Crocodile (which no amount of sand Gaara could block with would stop anyways) would instantly kill Gaara.
@@vento5314i just imagine all the sand in the fight stops moving. Gaara crying for his mom and yelling at Shukaku to show up, Crocodile surprised that he's back to being human.
I would LOVE to see Shikamaru catch Moria in the shadow possession just for Moria’s shadow to move away, pick up his shadow and hold it for Moria to cut off lol
There was once a pirate captain who headbutted a continent in half with NO damage, to get to the treasure hidden miles below the ice. Garp gave him a concussion and a permanent deformity with a single punch.
one thing to remember characters in one piece are conditioned to fight for hours or even days non stop while characters in Naruto usually fight for 30 minutes to 6 hours because they need their chakra.
@@lijlij1973 that's cause Naruto was doing most of the work. Naruto literally gave everyone some power from the 9 tail fox chakra. Just looked it up The 4th great ninja war only lasted 2 days.
@@jonathansilveira8775 no. for one crocodile is sand but gaara cannot control sand without using his chakra and as croc has no chakra, and croc can’t be hit so gaara can’t put his chakra in him, croc destroys him.
@@jonathansilveira8775 and also they both control sand and croc controls it better because he controls it as if it were another body part, along with that, crocodile can turn into a pile of sand entirely and return to his physical state. every logia user can turn into the element their fruit is based off of.
@@kingchoppa3204 no it means his control over sand is far better becuz his one with it, it's like what bane said in dark knight rises "you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, moulded by it."
Who would pay to see this slaughter house? I can understand wanting to see Sakura take an L but all these match ups sweep all the Naruto characters. It ain't even fair dog.
One piece has a good plot and it's shrouded with mystery and questions regarding about the Mc and the world they were settled in and one thing i wanna know is what luffy really want to do if he became a pirate king that will be able to shake the one piece universe and finding out what is the true meaning of "D" family and the celestial war. And That why i love the show.
@@requiem3844 the feeling of anger and raged building up after i send this video to them has blessed me of feeling love since no one talks to me. So yes, yes i am satisfied.
Your right and there is a 50/50 chance that he possess conqueror's haki cause there isn't a single man in the whole series who defeated a conqueror user without conqueror's haki except for akainu with old man wb and law with bm
Kizaru and Minato isn't actually that far off if the logia damage immunity wasn't a thing. Like we see characters such as Rayleigh, who isn't at all a speedster, move and match Kizaru. Which implies that kizarus transitions are fast but activating the ability isn't super human. Minatos movement is based on preset markers but he can place them at will and activating them is essentially instantaneous and without warning. Plus he's already confirmed to be stupidly fast in terms of reaction times. He was able to react to an attack that was 1, less than a foot from his face and 2, moving at dozens of feet per second, so Kizaru really ain't outta the realm of Minatos speed if Rayleigh was able to keep up. So if we removed Kizarus logia damage immunity from the equation, Minato may not actually be that bad a match up. He's also great with barriers and sealing shit away so actually he probably could win. Every other match up though, oof. In theory gaara could ball up and stalemate but beating croc ain't really on the cards. Logia are inherently broken like that. Garps a physical match to Sakura though canonically she's really good at dodging when her author isn't making her stand still to take Ls but Garps still just too capable of matching her regardless.
To be fair Raleigh is one of the top op character it has been shown that many people are faster then light but kizaru is a hard admiral he's also very witty like how he took our Marcos pheonix ability by tossing seas stone shackles kizaru hasn't been shown to his full power though as well
You have good points but kizaru would still slam without logia immunity. Kizuras speed is obviously light speed, so if Rayleigh is keeping up, Rayleigh can travel light speed. Also you mention the fact the Minato has insane reflexes and I can agree to an extent but you forgot to mention that kizaru has observation haki and probably advanced haki as well. I’m not the best person to be talking about this topic but some guy made an analysis video about admirals verse hokage and kizaru just speed blitzes minato
Minato isn't consistent with his light speed movement as it's just teleporting back and forth Kizaru can move at Lightspeed 24/7 Rayleigh is just Lightspeed. One Piece characters just have more Lightspeed characters overall specially if they are high their like Rayleigh and Shank's
@@cloudyguy8261 Just wanna make a quick note about the youtubers you mentioned, I don't find them overly reliable for Naruto content. I've sat with official sources of information open in the second tab while watching their videos and often found that they didn't actually understand what the techniques did or how shit worked, And alot of them treat Naruto like it's a power level system, when really it's a more esoteric mind game system. Power is good but tricks are what actually let people land hits. People dismissed that way too often. In some cases, There was just blatant fanboying and a complete misunderstanding of how things worked in that world, There's one guy called Hyuuga vault and he made a video comparing Hyuga to Uchiha, and decided the Hyuga would slam the Uchiha. 1, The Uchiha have more numbers occupying an entire district compared to the Hyugas singular extended estate, 2, they're competent in pretty much all forms of combat compared to the Hyuga who only teach SOME of their members their more useful techniques and they only practice jyuuken so ranged combat immediately leaves them stuck and 3, this guy thought Gentle fist acted like an EMP on contact with chakra, just shutting it down and cancelling it out when in reality gentle fist is essentially acupuncture combined with the concept of putting a cork in a wine bottle. It doesn't do anything to the chakra, it just plugs the holes that narutoverse people had in their bodies that released chakra. So yeah my faith in Naruto youtubers to be unbiased is on the floor and I also don't count them to be particularly reliable about understanding match ups to begin with cuz from experience you can literally open official sources in the next tap and just point out when they're wrong. Fuck ive made a drinking game of it before and was hammered by the 3rd video, anyway, Lemme explain in some detail why I think minato/kizaru is alot closer than people think. I don't believe kizaru is lightspeed, the problem with him actually being that fast is simply that he has never displayed even close to that level and you have to understand that if he WAS that fast, nobody would ever survive against him. Literally nobody. Light speed isn't something you can shrug off even in anime. It's literally fast enough to loop the earth like, trillions if times in under a second and I'm probably underselling that. Covering 15 meters to kick someone at that speed would happen whether you wanted it to or not and there's not a single character in op that could feasibly comprehend never mind react to movement at that speed so the fact people survive against him at all and the fact that he's not considered the absolute strongest discourages the notion he's that fast, like even if that one kick didn't land, the reaction times being that fast would give you means that the INSTANT you counter him, He's already attacking in a different way. Also, If he was moving at that speed, A kick would cause a nuclear explosion just to throw that in there. His body weight at that velocity would literally compress the air between your bodies so hard it would superheat and explode. So that's another issue with him actually being that fast. And claiming that Rayleigh is just that fast as well doesn't make any sense and also invalidates the power of kizarus fruit. Rayleighs not even in his prime any more, to be able to move that fast is ridiculous in his prime but doing it now? Nope, That's just not happening. Further notes, If kizaru was becoming pure light he'd lose pretty much all of his mass and be incapable of striking like we see him and more importantly he'd hit EVERYONE before they knew it if he was actually going that fast. Light has to hit shit and bounce into our eyes to be seen. If he was coming outta FTL speeds and hitting you, you'd never see it. And not just in the "My reactions aren't quick enough" sense but in the "there's literally nothing in my vision but I've been hit anyway because light hasn't even registered in my brain yet" way. So I highly doubt kizaru is actually that fast. He's stupidly fast yes but fast as light, I highly doubt it. There's too many issues with that for it to be true. As for how Rayleigh can keep up with him even with the speed he DOES have, It's likely observation haki. Seeing what's gonna happen and proactively moving to counter to eliminate having to react to a faster enemy. He's rogers right hand and that crew was more or less considered the strongest, And it's also implied through shanks' decision to not use D fruits that the Roger crew didn't use them either so they attained their title of strongest purely through haki and martial skill/tactics. Proactive engagement against kizaru is likely how he's getting around the speed issue. As for minato, the problems with matching them up is that kizarus more realistic range of speed isn't that big of a deal against someone who can move as fast as minato can realistically. We've seen minato move and outpace the Raikage who covered something like 20 odd meters in the time it takes for a fast reacting human to twitch. Muscle twitches are fractions of a second, that's on par with anything kizaru has done to date honestly. On a speed level, he shouldn't be unmanageable for minato. Faster than him probably still yes but still manageable. Then you have minatos skill set. Fuinjutsu. Sealing. Sealing covers a stupidly diverse range of skills from making shit explode to stopping the flow of power to increasing the gravity within an area to creating barriers all the way to sealing away energy. Like, ALOT of energy. You have to understand minato was THE best at this within his time period. Likely only matched by kushina given her clan who were so good at seals they literally got targeted by a multi nation Alliance task Force and wiped out not because they did anything but because multiple minor AND major world powers were flat out scared about what they COULD do. Their POTENTIAL with seals caused a mass mobilization onto what was essentially one clan. And minato was considered the best in his field in his period ontop of being the fastest. Minatos chances skyrocket becaus of this. He doesn't need to actually hit kizaruto put him down he just needs time to set up some form of array and he can more than likely lock kizaru down and then seal him away.
@@yourhiddenupdates152 The problem with him being lightspeed is that nobody would be able to react so the series ACTIVELY shows evidence of him being significantly slower than light. And significantly is the understatement of the century Because there'd be nothing to react to. Lemme put it like this, snap your fingers. You hear that click? Could you react to that click if you heard it from the other side of the room? Nope, neither could Kizaru. There's NOTHING to react to, the sound is what you react to, but for the sound to be reacted to, it has to hit you. Sound is 343 meters per second. You literally have to be MORE than 150 meters away before you even conceivably react to that sound through a visual queue and 150 meters is STILL on like, the absolute pinnacle of reaction times. Light is 299,702,547 meters per second. That final part of the number is nearly twice the speed of sound, and it's the SMALLEST part of that value. Light is something like 800,000 times faster. Yenno that flash kizaru makes when he turns to light? If he was moving at the speed of light, you'd never actually see that, you'd be dead before your brain COULD see that. And that's not about reaction times that's just biology and physics. It's a physical impossibility. And what all of this means is, with the evidence shown by the show, kizaru has never even gone faster than sound, never mind light. Rayleigh has zero grounds for being as fast as sound either, so both of them are faster than most people but they're not even a dot on the spectrum of light speed. It's just physically impossible for that to be the case based on what the show is manga has ever displayed.
@Dark v1nce i have watched one piece. I also have watched naruto something you should do. Sakura is only a little physically weaker than garp. But sakura cant take damage from physical attacks only.
@@LightningOnFire I feel like Garp is stronger than her but not by too far, but I have prime garp over her because he fought rock’s and his crew Amd even tho roger helped you can say most of the rocks crew were close to that level or just behind that, Amd garp has no devil fruit so his fist are all he has
@@LightningOnFire If it's a fight without haki,Sakura would win.But if haki is included,Sakura would be negged,She cant heal anything if her brain is gone(Ryuo)
Crocodile: I will kill you Gaara: picks up water bucket Crocodile under his breath: fuck Gaara: *puts bucket down* Crocodile: I will kill you Gaara: picks up water bucket Crocodile under his breath: fuck Gaara: *puts bucket down* Crocodile: I will kill you Gaara: picks up water bucket Crocodile under his breath: fuck Gaara: *puts bucket down* Crocodile: I will kill you Gaara: picks up water bucket Crocodile under his breath: fuck Gaara: *puts bucket down*-
Unless the enemies can harm the soul/Mind, winning physical fights with One piece characters is just a dream. Haki and One piece characters bodies are made for Close combat Fights.
I always had this idea that haki was of similar ilk to ki or Chakra. In the way that for example a logia user from one piece could be hit by a ki blast from a dragon ball character, or even a punch if you belive dragon ball characters "infuse" themselves with ki when they attack or block. And then the same with an attack made of Chakra. If a karma mark could absorb it then a logia gotta dodge it. I get that haki is more "willpower" and not just your normal run of the mill "spirit" energy. But if you popped goku into one piece and gave him a 15 min crash course on haki I'm betting he's gonna be emperor level in an hour. Same thing if he went to the Naruto world. He would just say, oh like this? And have a moon sized rasengan.
.....I don't like this argument,not because it's not true. It very much is. But that means Ino solos any One Piece character, as she literally just takes over the body and forces it to hurt themselves. Even worse! Even if they are strong enough to force her out of their mind, Ino now knows everything they know (she cheated during the Chunin Exams by possessing Sakura who knew the answers)! Ino is unironically, a massive threat here!
Side note. The folks who get mind possessed only feel like they fell asleep when it's over. With that in mind, how would it work with Blackbeard. Dude never sleeps, if that's by choice I imagine he'd be pissed, tho if Teach can't control it and just... cannot rest, he'd prolly freak out, right?
Man was fast enough to teleport in between 8th gates might guy and jubidara's truth seeker orbs and was able to catch them then teleport away in base with no arms
@Surplus I don't think minato would win because he can't hit a logia devil fruit user because he doesn't have haki but I still think he's fast enough to be comparable to kizaru
@@timdoe8895 tbh the only thing that's beating Naruto characters easily is the logia effect. They just can't do anything against it at all, simple as that. And I don't wanna hear universe scaling bs cuz if we're putting them at full potential then even smoker can wipe them.
@@S0n0fG0D They all have a myriad of things they can do against Logia users, logias are weak. Smokers full potential doesn't scale to literal demi gods so get your stupid ass on saying such baseless and one piece throating takes as this.
@@SLOXU I mean kakashi cut a lightning bolt with chidori and Naruto is definitely faster than kakashi. Also note it takes time for him to actually hit light speed so an nice little flying raijin right next to him and he could tag him.
@@codewizard0 I agree with you but take time for light speed na he can do it any second it not take time cause logia give the user to full control hi property or elements
@@timelesswisdom. he controls sand through his chakra whereas Crocodile is literally sand and can control it as if it were an extension of himself Gaara will get clapped
One of my favorite things in Verses Match Ups like this is when you have two narratives with drastically different power levels. You're considered top tier in Naruto if you're mountain busting while in One Piece pre-Wano Zoro was able to bisect a mountain without any advanced Haki Applications like Ryou or ACoC. but also in Naruto there is a weird Power Curve where Naruto, Sasuke, and the Boruto Aliens are all +Moon Busting.
Actually that feat is commonly used, but right after the moon splitting feat is done Toneri throws the moon at the Earth with enough force to destroy it(which is a planetary feat). He has full confidence he will survive the planet being destroyed and says nothing about Naruto dying. Only that the planet will be destroyed and to say goodbye to it(I think). Naruto proceeds to one-shot him. Easily planetary.
@@diondadigger Yah, but still that's like a handful of people in Naruto while One Piece has a slightly larger percentage of strong combatants (Dragon+Revolutionaries~Admirals~remaining Yonkous~Mink Samurai Strawhat Heart Kidd Pirate Alliance)
@@diondadigger It's a planetary feat in the same way that killing the soul king is a universal feat. The moon hitting earth in its self would destroy the earth but his power on its own wouldn't allow him to destroy the earth. At best his own strength was enough to cut a hollow moon.
I have an issue with two matches. Gara's and Sakura's. Gara is shown to be able to put his chakra into sand that he hasn't prepared, and Devil Fruits aren't absolute in their power. It is directly started that a more powerful power or effect can override a weaker power or effect, like a magma fruit being able to kill a flame fruit user. Gara's power comes from what is essentially a minor deity of sand. Now with Haki users vs Sakura, my problem with that, is that the Hundred Healings Jutsu doesn't work like regeneration abilities in One Piece. The Hundred Healings Jutsu works by causing the cells of the body to split apart via mitosis thousands, if not millions, times faster than they normally do. She's basically just ordering her body to do normal bodily healing at a faster rate, and Haki attacks are not permanent damage, you just have to heal from the injuries via normal methods. Otherwise Luffy would never heal from bruises he gets from an opponent's Haki punches or kicks. I'm not saying that Sakura beats Garp, but I take issue with your logic on those two fights
Should also mention that the Byakugou seal also gives a substantial buff to the user in base, on top of having further forms that can be used to further enhance the user’s body (and that’s not mentioning the fact that your already insanely high chakra control becomes essentially perfect once the seal is finally completed); also, side note: This is Boruto Sakura, who can actually compete with adult Naruto and adult Sasuke one-on-one and is unmatched in pure physical strength (even before she enhances it with her own chakra) and chakra control
@@darkyang6601 fair enough. I don't watch Boruto, but I could see that seeing that at the ends of Shippuden she could at least damage Kaguya, even if she was far from the most powerful team member in that fight
@@darkyang6601 for Garaa: the comparison of fruits only works in direct interaction of function, ie the flame fruit loses to the magma fruit because the manga is hotter and the magma doesn't take control of the inferior fruit. this is the case with every other fruit and at best means the garaa's gold sand would not be affected by crocodile... that still leaves basically all other sand that can be defined as "normal" sand including his mother's sand as it structurally is still just sand therefore Garaa still loses Sakura: Sakura is at best as strong as garp physically but she does not have any ability to bypass armament haki which can clean right through her and while she can heal from most any injury for a good while (and have amped strength while doing so) a solid full body obliterating blow or a finisher to the head will likely put her down. Sakura would really just be hoping for Garp to tire himself out
Sakura’s healing factor does nothing against impact damage. Sakura’s healing doesn’t protect her from getting knocked out from Garp beating dat ass to unconsciousness.
Sakura is able to heal her lost limbs even with that she loses I guess but could maybe maybe not last long against garp since she could keep making her chakra full again for quite some time she has the same chakra reserves to Naruto thanks to thousand healings
@ultra saiyan Nah. Just someone not clouded by bias. You have to accept it. Naruto verse is just blatantly stronger than One Piece verse. End of Series characters in Naruto stomp current One Piece characters. This is no shade to One Piece as a story. It's literally just seeing who would win in a fight. If we look at it objectively, Naruto verse power ceiling is too high for One Piece right now. One Piece may get there later, but as of now, no.
The thing is gaara doesn’t have a reliable way to hurt crocodile, gaara’s techniques like sand coffin would do nothing to crocodile since it’s crushing the opponent with sand and unless he’s coated in water or hit with a wet object crocodile isn’t feeling a thing. Also gaara controls the sand by having chakra imbued with it, crocodile is an outside force that can’t be controlled since his sand is already imbued with his own life force, not to mention the sheer level of moves that can injure and even kill gaara is staggering, from absorbing all of gaara’s moisture to stabbing him over and over, poisoning him, cutting gaara with sand blades and more.
What people often forget about Naruto is that 99% of the cast are glass canons. There's a reason why shurikens and kunais are still used. Because at the end of the day, any character can get shanked by a regular kitchen knife. The only mitigation for this is armor like Gaara's sand armor or the Raikage's lightning cloak which are jutsus that requires a maintenance cost. That and regneration so you can survive getting shanked. But a reminder, it only let's you survive and heal, it doesn't stop the knife from penetrating you in the first place.
@@IKBanksI aokiji literally lost a foot, luffy used water and blood to counter crocodile and aokinu put a hole through ace with the help of fruit advantage.
@@donovan4668 aokiji only lost a foot because his logia doesn’t allow him to phase through things like others. Akainu was also permanently scarred from the fight with aokiji. Akainu didn’t really have fruit advantage in a “natural counter” like you said against ace. His was basically the upgraded version of aces, but he easily had much better haki compared to ace allowing him to punch through him that easy.
I agree with all but Gaara. There's no saying how a devil fruit and chakra could interact. It's likely Gaara's chakra could keep the sand from being used by Crocodile so long as the chakra is continuous. Also possible that he could simply run his chakra straight through crocodile when he turns into sand and crocodile would have no defense against it cause he doesn't have the slightest idea what chakra is.
Maybe, but that wouldn't help Gaara win because he couldn't destroy the infinitely regenerating sand. And since he has limited chakra, he'd only be able to hold him for so long, especially when Crocodile is so powerful, he can perform most of Shukaku's biggest hits with ease. The amount of energy he'd have to dedicate to controlling Crocodile against his own will is immense, so he'd be drained quite quickly. Plus, if Crocodile or any of his sand touches Gaara once, he can drain all the moisture from his body. That's something he can't defend against. And that's not even considering Crocodile's actual speed and strength alone are great enough to overpower the guy.
@@Pumpkin7269there are only three characters in One Piece currently that have ANY chance of being “planetary” and even then they’re probably just Life Wipers; Luffy (G5 be crazy) Kaido (pulling an ultron and dropping an island like a meteor but even then i doubt it) and Issho/Fujitora (using his gravity abilities to drop meteors on the planet to life wipe/disrupt the natural gravity of the planet)
You how can people everytime forget that they are supernatural ninjas these aren't their only skills and each one of them have learned hundreds of jutsu
Sakura definitely lost this one but she's pretty underrated in terms of strength. She can also destroy a village if she wanted to and was one of the strongest people by the end of the war. Though garp can probably destroy a naruto village 10 times over if he wanted too but I say the fight could've been something to talk about.
Sakura = underrated.....hahahahahahahaha By that point, Naruto, Sasuke, kakashi, the kages......anyone of them could destroy a village with less effort. She can't nuke it with a punch like pain did with his shinra tensei, or any jinchurikis with bijuu bombs. She could smash a ton of buildings and eventually after maybe 3 days she would wipe the village out.
@@vkak1 Sakura can destroy an entire village in matters of hours not even a day... Destroying a village and wiping it out like Pain did is too different things, but she is still powerful enough to destroy a village in like 2 to 3 hours.
When you realize Minato is faster than light and chakra is similar to haki since haki is putting your spirit energy into your body/weapon and chakra is spirit energy
Finally a person with a brain Naruto characters can literally walk on water by maintaining Chakra on their feet And water is also an element just like Fire, Magma, light etc But these One Piece fans won't accept the fact and will say "One Piece characters are underrated" Literally Minato can make short work of Kizaru quite easily
Minato has nvr been stated to be faster than light 🤣🤣 The only one is six path Madara lvl characters are faster than light, Minato couldn't even dodge unstable obito
Minato isn’t fuckin FTL he’s faster than the 4th Raikage and that’s it nearly everyone of his “speed feats” are you retards thinking teleportation=speed
@@resolute7177 minato had a mental nerf. And you do know that teleportation is faster than light right? But even without that, numerous attacks are stated in the Naruto guide books to be light speed+. Characters that are blatantly slower than Minato dodged them
@@ultimatezack6437 numerous attacks are stated to be light speed in the guide books. Characters we know are slower than Minato dodged them. So by proxy we know Minato is faster than light
This is definitely "I skimmed both manga and found people with similar abilities or titles" the problem is devil don't work with this because they on a conceptual and gain the strengths and weaknesses of that particular "element's" concept so either the devil fruit user dominates OR they are absolutely destroyed. Also thats why devil fruit that are foods are kinda broken because "preparation" is part of the concept of that food
Logia and Paramecia users can get hurt by people using Haki. Haki is using ones spiritual energy. Chakra is using ones spiritual energy. All jutsu in Naruto should be able to damage all logia and Paramecia users. So Chakra in Naruto series negates One Piece intangibility.
@@XSolidus How so? To hit a Logia user, you either have to have an elemental advantage or use Haki. What is Haki? Haki is using one's spiritual energy to strengthen oneself. What is Chakra? Chakra is the use of spiritual energy to use jutsu. Both are spiritual energy. so both would work on Logia. So no, you're incorrect.
@@phill9780 That's not how Haki works bozo. One Piece wipes this board. Just because both powers are a form of spiritual energy, that doesn't mean ninjutsu can damage a logia fruit user. They are seperate concepts.
Actually the reason Shikamaru isn’t because Moria can just yoink the shadow because Shikamaru is smart and fast enough to be able to avoid that. The reason Shikamaru loses is because the way his abilities work are completely useless against a person who can completely detatch themselves and operate independently from their own shadow. Because shadow possesion works by trapping the shadow and by extension the physical body because the two are connected because the two are connected
You can't hurt sand, It's fucking sand, He could stop Crocodile from attacking but since he is sand he can't kill him, Because even if you control sand YOU CAN'T KILL IT BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING SAND
@@ITZJUSZERO he has more than sand, and diesnt have shukaku anymore. But Gaara likely cant even damage the dude unless he takes advantage of his arrogance
Even if we haven't seen the full capacity of Kizaru's fruit why does that matter? Minato can't touch Kizaru without haki. That's been in one piece since haki was introduced. That's the reason luffy got his cheeks clapped by somebody like Smokers weak ass when they first met. How is Minato gonna touch something that's untouchable like light? Answer? He isn't and can't
@@aaronlee6124 Crocodile can't control gaaras sand as it already has his chakra in it so its not really the same as normal sand they cancel eachother out but gaara has shuukaku with him so he stomps. Shikamarus is the same thing along with the shadow possession jutsu being a chakra based thing and not really shadows so moria doesn't do anything and shikamaru is far to smart to lose to him. Minato is faster than light and is capable of reacting to light speed and using chakra to cut it(similar to how kakashi cuts lighting) so kizaru gets negged and if he has the chakra cloak it's not even close. Sakara has nigh planetary amounts of ap, faster than light speeds and the hundred healings. One Piece gets curbed stomped.
I feel like they did shikamaru dirty knowing his abilities would just get canceled out essentially. If Shika was up against some of the other characters he would be able to actually put in a little work I think. I mean basically no other one piece characters have shadow abilities so once Shika catches them their essentially paralyzed. Though a lot of the characters would be difficult to catch as Shika isn’t really the fastest of characters in Naruto lmao.
I wouldn't say that considering Logia users. For instance, Shikamaru catches say: Sabo, he can still disperse himself into flame bright enough to either cast off the shadows or burn Shikamaru in close proximity... You're in paralysis and you can't move but a lot of Logia doesn't require movement to use their powers.
Lol and yall all forget shikimaru uses others shadows against the moria would have to be carful against shikimaru due to tht and him being veryy smart way smarter the moria and his ego.
Minato might be on par with a light speed folk but kizaru has more experience, minato can’t touch and even if he could kizaru can use haki , both observation and armament so minato is going down and as you said putting up a fight
Nah bro, Minato/Yellow Flash is legendary when it comes to speed, but he's not out here outpacing the SPEED. OF. LIGHT. 🤣😂🤣 And that's not even getting into whether speed would matter, considering there's a high possibility Minato can't even TOUCH Kizaru since he's a Logia and you need haki to do that if he's using his abilities. I like Minato WAAAAAAY more, but I don't see him having a way to even make this fight competitive. Let ALONE win.
In terms of speed they could be matched, but since Minato doesn't really have an answer to Logia user. I would give the dub to Kizaru. Unless he has water release but he doesn't
@@mahamib logia cant be used as theirs no way to hit them at all so wither verse equalization he would get some hits off and could win if he could tag him with flying raijin
Garp is his prime literally destroy the biggest pirate crew to this date with nothing but his punch and Gol D Roger in his side... I love Sakura but COM FUCKING MON
@@firstplayers396 Sakura is around the same strength as Naruto and Sasuke at the end of Naruto Shippuden. Either of them stomp Garp. Therefore, Sakura stomps Garp.
@@hoobadoobamaster8551 it's in my opinion an even match, both are masters of sand, made of sand, and thus very powerful, I think Sandman has the advantage
@@WorstGenCrypto In most comic iteration's Sandman can always control the sand around him. You capped real quick, don't disrespect Flint Marko like that. He also can control the soul of the sand in one comic. 90% of his versions wipe the floor with him.
Let me start off by saying one piece is my favorite anime and I think naruto shippuden is mid So kizaru is not beating Minato. First off kizaru does not fight at light speed that's his travel speed. He travels somewhere really fast then attacks you. Where as Minato can teleport instantly and react at speeds faster than light based off the madara vs guy fight. Secondly yes Minato can't hit kizaru but he can seal him. It's said in the story and databooks that Minato is a sealing master and has knows many Uzumaki sealing jutsu. As far as we know kizaru does not have future sight. So what would most likely happen is kizaru would try to attack Minato and Minato would dodge and teleport away. He would probably teleport again and try to hit kizaru but be unable to. So Minato would have to find a way to seal him or its a stalemate. And as far as garp vs sakura... I love garp he's one of my favorite characters but unless you take sakura prefight with kaguya she's winning. Sakura is cracked in the kaguya fight she punches one of kaguyas horns off, and she wasn't caught off guard. However if you want to downplay that I would bring up sakuras epilogue novel that takes place after the 4th war but before the last. She fights someone named kido a former high ranking leaf anbu trying to frame Sasuke for his crimes. He develops a tailed beast drug that boosts his Chakra by 10,000 times. This by itself should make him at least moon level as 100 jonin were capable of destroying the moon in the last. Sakura states his Chakra is overwhelming, considering that she has been around many 6paths characters yet is still scared by kidos chakra doesn't outright make him equal or greater than such characters but at least comparable. She beats him, but not just that she also tanks a bijuu bomb he fires off. In addition he shoots a lightning style jutsu at her, some lightning jutsu are faster than lightning but I'm going to assume that without the drug kido's lightning jutsu is lightning speed, now as I said before he is boosted by 10,000 times. Light is about 2500 times faster than lightning and sakura dodges this jutsu making her around 4 times faster than light. Garp is fucked. Naruto characters have a way higher power ceiling than one piece characters.
I feel like a bunch of people here completely missed the matchup jokes and are questioning why theyre fighting the respective characters. Sand vs sand, shadow vs shadow, speed of light vs "speed of light", useless vs useless (because garp didnt help ace) it's a joke guys.
One Piece actually takes the win 1. Croc got the advantage of immunity 2. Moria might lose and outsmarted but he is stat wise stronger 3. Kizaru also wins this statwise 4. Garp stomps
Yeah the One Piece characters in terms of fighting ability are on a whole other level compared to characters from Naruto. As ironic as that may sound for some people. 🤣🤣🤣
You chose the two fights that w we re literally impossible for the Naruto characters to win kizaru doesn't just move at light speed he literally IS light there isn't a way to touch him without haki same with crocodile and sand he IS sand although you can't hit him if your fist is wet
@mr.tesser5941 kizaru has to actually go from a physical body to light, doesn't he? I'm positive Minato van hit him before can. Garaa can just sand burial crocodile and seal him up with those seal tags. Sealing is something just about ninja in Naruto can do.
@@Anonymous_Hayabusa kizaru does not need to be in a physical form as seen in sabaody when brook was clearly stabbing him and usopp was shooting him which where just going through him while he was still in mid attack against zoro and sand burial doesn't work on literal sand sealing might be the only way that's if they can get it off in the middle of a fight against these two monsters
@@aahahahahahah4337 Yes they can hit through logia types, The God tiers in naruto have attacks that can destroy space time, Absorb elemental attacks and negate other elements through mastery of literally every chakra nature lmao. 99% of logias in naruto can be pushed back by the average kage tier just because of how vast elemental attacks are in range, Fire Logia? OK water justu. Ice Logia? OK fireball jutsu. Magma? OK ice release and so on so fourth lmao. People are really waking logias lmao.
Does anybody else actually like weaker characters? The stakes are so much higher, and power systems are so much more fascinating when characters can't just punch a building in half For example, I liked the original DragonBall, but the moment we started getting characters who could vaporize planets without breaking a sweat and every fight started boiling down to who could pour more energy into a Kamehameha, everything started going downhill for me
I disagree with Gaara, Shikamaru, and Kizaru. You're running on the assumption that chakra doesn't affect them in this crossover battle. Like you said, they run their energy/chakra through their attacks so you're saying that the left side can simply override that control because they control natural versions of elements. Also, I will never believe that Kizaru actually moves at light speed. He was worried about bullets from Ben Beckman...we saying those bullets are FTL?
@@Mythiophus that's fair, but just going from that scene alone, Kizaru was a fair distance away from Ben and he had all the time in the world to even just move away faster than Ben should be able to react.
I mean they could probably fight them until their chakra runs low but I do see your reasons I believe Chakra would work similarly to Haki being able to fight past devil fruits like how blunt usually doesn't work on Luffy but weapons and limbs with armament can hurt him
I’m starting to get the feeling that it’s a rule that any one One Piece character could solo the entire Naruto verse so long as they have a Devil Fruit
As much as I love Naruto to death being my first and favorite anime (and the most I fall back on as a creative outlet) I can’t deny that OP stomps in these matchups so questions asked, they literally do better in every sense Garra? Fueling his opponent with more sand Shikamaru? Here pal, have some shadows Minato? Gotta be quicker than that Sakura? She had the opportunity and still took an L (I love her potential but she just doesn’t do great things)
I don't think garp train's anymore, he stays in shape but he probably is fine with the fact that his time as a big player in the world is over I'd imagine age has only taken stamina and 20% of his prime power
For the minato vs kizaru fight an argument could be made that since chakra is the fusion of physical and spiritual energy chakra attacks can hit logia types since haki literally means spirit and even if it can't minato has sage mode so senjutsu might work, he is also a master of fuinjutsu (sealing arts) so he could probably seal kizaru away or leave a marker at the bottom of the ocean and use that move that teleported a bijudama away to sink him.
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He is Sand.
He is Shadow.
He is Light.
He is Him.
Underatted comment 😂
Thing about it is Minato is faster than light so it wouldn't be an issue for his fight and he has amps on top of that. He's winning easily
@@kaimobley5324where are you getting this information from please tell me
@@Tombo45678 Data books stated that the Raikage is faster than light even during the 4th Grade Ninja War and Minato during this time is still faster than him in his base state while Naruto proved he was faster than him in KCM1.
With Minato also having a KCM form that would boost his speed even further. Idk if Sage Mode boosts all physical aspects but we know for a fact Strength is definitely one of them.
Unlike Kizaru who is limited by going in one direction when completely turned into Light unless a mirror reflects him somewhere else and also has to be tangible in some way to actually land his attacks Minato has no such limitations on him.
Then there are jutsu stated to be Light like Darui's Laser Circus that Minato would easily be able to dodge and in base amongst other certain Ninja. So there's plenty of evidence supporting this.
@@kaimobley5324 thank you very much kind sir
First time Moria won’t take an L
That is true
Bro I get moria was hated but at least let his grave rest in peace xD
@@TheGimpyMerc right
And see that's the thing instead of taking the mentality that he needs a stronger Army instead of being stronger himself things would have been different for him. He would still try to make the strongest army but he might actually be on King's level if not a little closer to some of the tops in the verse if he just worked on himself and made himself stronger no matter what.
@@shadowLDrago4084 yez but he chose to lazy turd instead
imagine gaara like summoning shukaku and crocodile just like "our shukaku" 💀
IM SENT 💀💀💀
BYE IM ASCENDING 💀-
IM ASCENDING TOO 💀
Ive been chilling waiting for yall to ASCEND
IM GONNA ASCEND TO THE HEAVENS💀💀💀
Crocodile be like: you think sand is your ally? But you merely adopted the sand. I was born by it, moulded by it.
I might be wrong but can't Gaara just put chakra into the sand croc uses and just dismantle him with
Chakra?
@@casperdafriendlyghost6301 bro even if that was somehow possible what do you mean dismantle him he is sand that's already dimantled he would just form again you can't hurt him without water or haki
@@MrDaddy6969 as in he can’t be put back together because the chakra infused in his sand
@@casperdafriendlyghost6301He can still control the sand. Just because Garou puts his chakra into it doesn't exactly mean Crocodile is gonna have no control
Bruh crocodile dont even have a mouth anymore its fking holes just holes
Hold up, this person did *not* really suggest Sakura vs Garp as a match up. That's not a match up, that's a war crime.
Exactly
Ong
Garp vs Sakura Sakura would get shit on
Whoever made that matchup must not like Sakura at all because she's getting clapped.
Or the show Naruto at all for that matter
Edit: no I'm not gonna argue with anyone on this it was a joke comment I don't give a f who wins-
Violating the Geneva Convention I see
Garaa: "summons shukaku"
Crocodile: "yo thanks for the sand"
He's not directly related to the sand
Bro Shukaku is made from chakra not sand
Ah yes the Naruto fan trap worked
@@Vagabond_inc that’s mad cringe 😬
@@Do3n1ow the Naruto fan trap demo seems to be functioning as intended
every time a One Piece character legitimately starts beating a Naruto character , Naruto fans bring out the “They can be sealed “ card.
Or the “verse equalization” card
Also the “he would just one shot them”
Or the Naruto verse is stronger than op's
Crocodile can technically solo the verse if ya know ya know
@@simsansong everyone that doesn’t use water jutsu other than that “you have no haki”
Someone must have a personal vendetta against Sakura putting her against GARP 💀💀💀
Nah adult sakura would give garp a good fight
@@crocoboi7936 no just no
@@aaronlee6124 well she managed to damage kaguya of all people
@@crocoboi7936 doesn’t mean she’s hurting garp
@@invinciblebeast1915yeah it means shes killing garp
You forgot how garp literally destroyed mountains just to practice breaking don chinjao's fucking haki coated noggin which was used to break an ice continent
Didn’t Sakura also destroy a mountain with a single punche though in the manga?
@@protalghulnist4126 where?
@@protalghulnist4126 but Garp was just practicing
@@czms922 if youre asking which arc I think it was during the fourth Shinobi war
Don't forget to mention that that was stage one haki, he beat the don and practiced like that with stage 1 haki
Man they really just matched up characters based on one single similarity
Sand, shadow, speed, and strength.
and forgot the power systems were different :/
Thats the point
@@lazarus8018and left side dominates in all 💀
Okay lets do Plastic Man vs Greg (his skin is slightly stretchy)
Whoever made this list definitely doesn't like these naruto characters
I can understand sakura but can't understand others 🥲
Cope
@@spackseries4400 I ain't coping man, I agree with this. But damn this is one horrible match for naruto fans.
Cope
@@pirateking8593 no cope just bad matchups hands down
Sakura: “I’ll win this fight, for Sasu…”
Garp: “GRAAAH! GALAXY IMPACT!”
Sakura really said "nah I'd win"
@@frostbitedragon9garp: *PUNCHES AND DESTROYS HER WHOLE BODY AND ALSO AN ENTIRE CITY*
@@user-sb3xj4fd1sbasically almighty push the leaf with a single punch from an 80 year old man way past his prime lmao
Always thought Garra Vs Crocodile would include the line “stop hitting yourself” regardless of which side it comes from.
Nah Gaara at worst can seal Crocodile. But Crocodile will straight up kill Gaara.
@@vento5314
I wonder if he could control gara mother 🤨 if so then crocodile might get new mommy if he absorbs that sand
@@rances4418 You still cant compare people that "use" sand vs someone that "is" sand. Like 1 barchan of Crocodile (which no amount of sand Gaara could block with would stop anyways) would instantly kill Gaara.
“Stop hitting yourself” gotta be the funniest line to say in a fight like that 😂
@@vento5314i just imagine all the sand in the fight stops moving. Gaara crying for his mom and yelling at Shukaku to show up, Crocodile surprised that he's back to being human.
Right side: "You're just a cheap fucking knockoff."
Left side: "No, i'm the upgrade."
"Shadow control jitsu!"
Moria: "MAAAN GIMME DAT SHIT"
Moria gon be eating good
Tbh I would love Moria making a comeback like Croc (still croc my fav villain)
Lmao such an underrated comment 😂
Moria with his IQ would be crazy.
He sounds like on weed cravings right now.
According to the latest manga reveals, Garp would obliterate Sakura so fast it's not even funny 😂
Then why are you laughing
"It's not even funny" and then proceeds to add laughing emoji
Bro it would be a WARMUP fr garp
@@josephadebayo8617it’s not funny for sakura/Naruto fans but it is funny for One piece fans
why you so mad@@pokimanefartcompilation
“Where did the girl go?” - Monkey D. Garp
Gaara: Sand Coffin
Crocodile: Yo, it's just free real estate thanks my guy oh and I'm made of sand so you weren't touching me in the first place
well garra can just seal him wnd if we are takking about pts gaara then he can just turn into shukaku and 1 tap crocodile with a tailed beast bomb
@@kingchoppa3204logia
You know crocodile can cut Sakazuki in half, and he is made of magma ..
@@kingchoppa3204cap.
I would LOVE to see Shikamaru catch Moria in the shadow possession just for Moria’s shadow to move away, pick up his shadow and hold it for Moria to cut off lol
There was once a pirate captain who headbutted a continent in half with NO damage, to get to the treasure hidden miles below the ice. Garp gave him a concussion and a permanent deformity with a single punch.
pointy head guy another rhyme is the grandfather of sai
Remember Garp weaker in those scenes and he would still spend a mudhole in Sakura f*** her healing
You cant heal whats already dead i am i right
@@noahsanogo2975 fr
POV u only watch Naruto
Scaling Sakura accurately
She stomps garp neg dif
@@Xluvsi garp has feats equal to roger Roger is stronger then whitebeard and whitebeard is planetary which you can barely get Sasuke to planetary
one thing to remember characters in one piece are conditioned to fight for hours or even days non stop while characters in Naruto usually fight for 30 minutes to 6 hours because they need their chakra.
You must’ve not watch 4th great ninja war last something like a week and everyone was constantly fighting
@@lijlij1973 that's cause Naruto was doing most of the work. Naruto literally gave everyone some power from the 9 tail fox chakra. Just looked it up The 4th great ninja war only lasted 2 days.
@@lijlij1973 it lasted two days 💀
@@lijlij1973 wasn't even a week ....it was 2 days, u don't even know that much Abt the side ur arguing abt
@@gardenofeden9217 and they also had rest time and recovery tents for exhausted shinobis
Gaara: my sand
Crocodile: OUR sand actually I’m taking it all
Edit: ahahahaaha you guys fell for my trap for comments
Gaara: why don’t you take my spit to
Crocodile is sand and gaara controls sand. Gaara wins
@@jonathansilveira8775 no. for one crocodile is sand but gaara cannot control sand without using his chakra and as croc has no chakra, and croc can’t be hit so gaara can’t put his chakra in him, croc destroys him.
@@jonathansilveira8775 and also they both control sand and croc controls it better because he controls it as if it were another body part, along with that, crocodile can turn into a pile of sand entirely and return to his physical state. every logia user can turn into the element their fruit is based off of.
@@dblsweatZ bro in naruto living objects contain Chakra sand does not have Chakra gaara controls the sand by infusing chakra with sand
Wait, It's just now hitting me that Crocodile could legitimately force Shukaku into submission with ease.
I don't think so because Shukaku is made of chakra it's just he's able to control sand. He is a tailed beast idk if I misremember tho
@@antares8943 and Crocodile IS sand, it's like saying an olympic swimmer is better than a dolphin in swimming lol hell no
@@ok.3114 Not exactly Shukaku can only control Sand he has injected his chakra with same for Garra
@@ok.3114crocodile being made of sand just makes it easier for gaara to manipulate him
@@kingchoppa3204 no it means his control over sand is far better becuz his one with it, it's like what bane said in dark knight rises "you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, moulded by it."
Gotta love how it's the world government and the warlords tagteaming.
Yes that’s exactly what they do. That’s like the point of being a warlord
Who would pay to see this slaughter house? I can understand wanting to see Sakura take an L but all these match ups sweep all the Naruto characters. It ain't even fair dog.
Its so unfair the naruto character dont even have haki to bypass logia passive ability
Sakura literally wins 😭🤦🏾♂️
@@buckethatkidwastaken your straight trippin 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@buckethatkidwastaken holy shit, it’s a common narutard. Would be a waste to use pokeballs on this bozo
@@buckethatkidwastaken explain? u not gonna elaborate??
I can hear my naruto fan friends and family chanting on my back. 😅
Narutoverse has a higher power roof but one piece is very versatile at the lower power scales.
Are you satisfied?
@@requiem3844 yes.
One piece has a good plot and it's shrouded with mystery and questions regarding about the Mc and the world they were settled in and one thing i wanna know is what luffy really want to do if he became a pirate king that will be able to shake the one piece universe and finding out what is the true meaning of "D" family and the celestial war. And That why i love the show.
@@requiem3844 the feeling of anger and raged building up after i send this video to them has blessed me of feeling love since no one talks to me. So yes, yes i am satisfied.
Just a friendly reminder that Akainu would've caught a fat L if Garp got to him.
He'd be lucky if a beatdown is all he got , garp was looking to catch a body at that moment .
Bro let Buddha control his Intrusive thoughts
And yet people keep telling me and arguing to me that pre timeskip Akainu beats garp when only post time skip akainu can beat garp 😑
Pre time skip akainu > old garp
@@niteeshj1097 keep coping
Garp straight up doesn't even need to fight he can just pull out the conqueror's haki (which he most likely has) and one shot sakura 💀
Your right and there is a 50/50 chance that he possess conqueror's haki cause there isn't a single man in the whole series who defeated a conqueror user without conqueror's haki except for akainu with old man wb and law with bm
Prob won't make Sakura pass out tho
@@adrianrossl.salonga9455 sakara still getting k.oed
at this time only sengoku is confirmed conqueror's haki user but at this time were just gonna wait for garp and the other marines
He confirmed himself that he has conq
Kizaru and Minato isn't actually that far off if the logia damage immunity wasn't a thing.
Like we see characters such as Rayleigh, who isn't at all a speedster, move and match Kizaru.
Which implies that kizarus transitions are fast but activating the ability isn't super human.
Minatos movement is based on preset markers but he can place them at will and activating them is essentially instantaneous and without warning. Plus he's already confirmed to be stupidly fast in terms of reaction times.
He was able to react to an attack that was 1, less than a foot from his face and 2, moving at dozens of feet per second, so Kizaru really ain't outta the realm of Minatos speed if Rayleigh was able to keep up.
So if we removed Kizarus logia damage immunity from the equation, Minato may not actually be that bad a match up.
He's also great with barriers and sealing shit away so actually he probably could win.
Every other match up though, oof. In theory gaara could ball up and stalemate but beating croc ain't really on the cards. Logia are inherently broken like that.
Garps a physical match to Sakura though canonically she's really good at dodging when her author isn't making her stand still to take Ls but Garps still just too capable of matching her regardless.
To be fair Raleigh is one of the top op character it has been shown that many people are faster then light but kizaru is a hard admiral he's also very witty like how he took our Marcos pheonix ability by tossing seas stone shackles kizaru hasn't been shown to his full power though as well
You have good points but kizaru would still slam without logia immunity. Kizuras speed is obviously light speed, so if Rayleigh is keeping up, Rayleigh can travel light speed. Also you mention the fact the Minato has insane reflexes and I can agree to an extent but you forgot to mention that kizaru has observation haki and probably advanced haki as well. I’m not the best person to be talking about this topic but some guy made an analysis video about admirals verse hokage and kizaru just speed blitzes minato
Minato isn't consistent with his light speed movement as it's just teleporting back and forth Kizaru can move at Lightspeed 24/7 Rayleigh is just Lightspeed. One Piece characters just have more Lightspeed characters overall specially if they are high their like Rayleigh and Shank's
@@cloudyguy8261 Just wanna make a quick note about the youtubers you mentioned, I don't find them overly reliable for Naruto content. I've sat with official sources of information open in the second tab while watching their videos and often found that they didn't actually understand what the techniques did or how shit worked, And alot of them treat Naruto like it's a power level system, when really it's a more esoteric mind game system. Power is good but tricks are what actually let people land hits. People dismissed that way too often.
In some cases, There was just blatant fanboying and a complete misunderstanding of how things worked in that world, There's one guy called Hyuuga vault and he made a video comparing Hyuga to Uchiha, and decided the Hyuga would slam the Uchiha.
1, The Uchiha have more numbers occupying an entire district compared to the Hyugas singular extended estate, 2, they're competent in pretty much all forms of combat compared to the Hyuga who only teach SOME of their members their more useful techniques and they only practice jyuuken so ranged combat immediately leaves them stuck and 3, this guy thought Gentle fist acted like an EMP on contact with chakra, just shutting it down and cancelling it out when in reality gentle fist is essentially acupuncture combined with the concept of putting a cork in a wine bottle. It doesn't do anything to the chakra, it just plugs the holes that narutoverse people had in their bodies that released chakra.
So yeah my faith in Naruto youtubers to be unbiased is on the floor and I also don't count them to be particularly reliable about understanding match ups to begin with cuz from experience you can literally open official sources in the next tap and just point out when they're wrong. Fuck ive made a drinking game of it before and was hammered by the 3rd video, anyway, Lemme explain in some detail why I think minato/kizaru is alot closer than people think.
I don't believe kizaru is lightspeed, the problem with him actually being that fast is simply that he has never displayed even close to that level and you have to understand that if he WAS that fast, nobody would ever survive against him. Literally nobody. Light speed isn't something you can shrug off even in anime. It's literally fast enough to loop the earth like, trillions if times in under a second and I'm probably underselling that. Covering 15 meters to kick someone at that speed would happen whether you wanted it to or not and there's not a single character in op that could feasibly comprehend never mind react to movement at that speed so the fact people survive against him at all and the fact that he's not considered the absolute strongest discourages the notion he's that fast, like even if that one kick didn't land, the reaction times being that fast would give you means that the INSTANT you counter him, He's already attacking in a different way. Also, If he was moving at that speed, A kick would cause a nuclear explosion just to throw that in there.
His body weight at that velocity would literally compress the air between your bodies so hard it would superheat and explode. So that's another issue with him actually being that fast.
And claiming that Rayleigh is just that fast as well doesn't make any sense and also invalidates the power of kizarus fruit. Rayleighs not even in his prime any more, to be able to move that fast is ridiculous in his prime but doing it now? Nope, That's just not happening.
Further notes, If kizaru was becoming pure light he'd lose pretty much all of his mass and be incapable of striking like we see him and more importantly he'd hit EVERYONE before they knew it if he was actually going that fast. Light has to hit shit and bounce into our eyes to be seen.
If he was coming outta FTL speeds and hitting you, you'd never see it. And not just in the "My reactions aren't quick enough" sense but in the "there's literally nothing in my vision but I've been hit anyway because light hasn't even registered in my brain yet" way.
So I highly doubt kizaru is actually that fast. He's stupidly fast yes but fast as light, I highly doubt it. There's too many issues with that for it to be true.
As for how Rayleigh can keep up with him even with the speed he DOES have, It's likely observation haki. Seeing what's gonna happen and proactively moving to counter to eliminate having to react to a faster enemy.
He's rogers right hand and that crew was more or less considered the strongest, And it's also implied through shanks' decision to not use D fruits that the Roger crew didn't use them either so they attained their title of strongest purely through haki and martial skill/tactics. Proactive engagement against kizaru is likely how he's getting around the speed issue.
As for minato, the problems with matching them up is that kizarus more realistic range of speed isn't that big of a deal against someone who can move as fast as minato can realistically. We've seen minato move and outpace the Raikage who covered something like 20 odd meters in the time it takes for a fast reacting human to twitch. Muscle twitches are fractions of a second, that's on par with anything kizaru has done to date honestly.
On a speed level, he shouldn't be unmanageable for minato. Faster than him probably still yes but still manageable.
Then you have minatos skill set. Fuinjutsu. Sealing.
Sealing covers a stupidly diverse range of skills from making shit explode to stopping the flow of power to increasing the gravity within an area to creating barriers all the way to sealing away energy. Like, ALOT of energy.
You have to understand minato was THE best at this within his time period. Likely only matched by kushina given her clan who were so good at seals they literally got targeted by a multi nation Alliance task Force and wiped out not because they did anything but because multiple minor AND major world powers were flat out scared about what they COULD do. Their POTENTIAL with seals caused a mass mobilization onto what was essentially one clan.
And minato was considered the best in his field in his period ontop of being the fastest.
Minatos chances skyrocket becaus of this.
He doesn't need to actually hit kizaruto put him down he just needs time to set up some form of array and he can more than likely lock kizaru down and then seal him away.
@@yourhiddenupdates152 The problem with him being lightspeed is that nobody would be able to react so the series ACTIVELY shows evidence of him being significantly slower than light. And significantly is the understatement of the century Because there'd be nothing to react to.
Lemme put it like this, snap your fingers. You hear that click?
Could you react to that click if you heard it from the other side of the room?
Nope, neither could Kizaru. There's NOTHING to react to, the sound is what you react to, but for the sound to be reacted to, it has to hit you.
Sound is 343 meters per second.
You literally have to be MORE than 150 meters away before you even conceivably react to that sound through a visual queue and 150 meters is STILL on like, the absolute pinnacle of reaction times.
Light is 299,702,547 meters per second.
That final part of the number is nearly twice the speed of sound, and it's the SMALLEST part of that value. Light is something like 800,000 times faster.
Yenno that flash kizaru makes when he turns to light?
If he was moving at the speed of light, you'd never actually see that, you'd be dead before your brain COULD see that. And that's not about reaction times that's just biology and physics. It's a physical impossibility.
And what all of this means is, with the evidence shown by the show, kizaru has never even gone faster than sound, never mind light.
Rayleigh has zero grounds for being as fast as sound either, so both of them are faster than most people but they're not even a dot on the spectrum of light speed.
It's just physically impossible for that to be the case based on what the show is manga has ever displayed.
Gara - i have an invincible shell
Croc - where 💀
Gaara’s Mom: right here, try to enter and you’ll become the shell.
@@robbomegavlkafenryka6158 Crocodile: A milf asking me to enter? Who am I to refuse?
@@robbomegavlkafenryka6158 nigga that shit absolutely doesn't matter he has ABSOLUTE controll over every grain of sand
@@robbomegavlkafenryka6158😐😐
@@robbomegavlkafenryka6158DAMN SWITCHERONI PEOERONI
Dont forget about garp's GALAXY IMPACT!!!! MAN WITH THAT ONE MOVE IT NEARLY DESTROYED AN ENTIRE SMALL ISLAND
LMFAO DID THEY JUST MATCH GARP AND SAKURA
Its funny cause sakura wins. Garp cant even hurt her
@Dark v1nce i have watched one piece. I also have watched naruto something you should do. Sakura is only a little physically weaker than garp. But sakura cant take damage from physical attacks only.
@@LightningOnFire I feel like Garp is stronger than her but not by too far, but I have prime garp over her because he fought rock’s and his crew Amd even tho roger helped you can say most of the rocks crew were close to that level or just behind that, Amd garp has no devil fruit so his fist are all he has
@@fatz8245 yeah i would say garp would win its just fact that sakura heals instantly
@@LightningOnFire If it's a fight without haki,Sakura would win.But if haki is included,Sakura would be negged,She cant heal anything if her brain is gone(Ryuo)
Crocodile: I will kill you
Garra: *picks up water bucket*
Crocodile under his breath: fuck
Crocodile: I will kill you
Gaara: picks up water bucket
Crocodile under his breath: fuck
Gaara: *puts bucket down*
Crocodile: I will kill you
Gaara: picks up water bucket
Crocodile under his breath: fuck
Gaara: *puts bucket down*
Crocodile: I will kill you
Gaara: picks up water bucket
Crocodile under his breath: fuck
Gaara: *puts bucket down*
Crocodile: I will kill you
Gaara: picks up water bucket
Crocodile under his breath: fuck
Gaara: *puts bucket down*-
@@mikedanielespeja6128mike is having an existential crisis again
@@mlgthelegend5194yep
Unless the enemies can harm the soul/Mind, winning physical fights with One piece characters is just a dream.
Haki and One piece characters bodies are made for Close combat Fights.
I always had this idea that haki was of similar ilk to ki or Chakra. In the way that for example a logia user from one piece could be hit by a ki blast from a dragon ball character, or even a punch if you belive dragon ball characters "infuse" themselves with ki when they attack or block. And then the same with an attack made of Chakra. If a karma mark could absorb it then a logia gotta dodge it. I get that haki is more "willpower" and not just your normal run of the mill "spirit" energy. But if you popped goku into one piece and gave him a 15 min crash course on haki I'm betting he's gonna be emperor level in an hour. Same thing if he went to the Naruto world. He would just say, oh like this? And have a moon sized rasengan.
Unless they are just straight up outscaled, one piece hacks are stupid hard to beat.
@@jaredsailor224true
.....I don't like this argument,not because it's not true. It very much is. But that means Ino solos any One Piece character, as she literally just takes over the body and forces it to hurt themselves. Even worse! Even if they are strong enough to force her out of their mind, Ino now knows everything they know (she cheated during the Chunin Exams by possessing Sakura who knew the answers)! Ino is unironically, a massive threat here!
Side note. The folks who get mind possessed only feel like they fell asleep when it's over. With that in mind, how would it work with Blackbeard. Dude never sleeps, if that's by choice I imagine he'd be pissed, tho if Teach can't control it and just... cannot rest, he'd prolly freak out, right?
The fact that the Sunny is like 1000000x bigger than humans and that giant Cannon ball is like 10x bigger than the Sunny just shows how strong Garp is
that was the merry not the sunny
Thats the sunny @@NoahRoss-yn2hw
Minato wasn't fast enough to save his wife, stop it. He's the equivalent of Quicksilver being killed by a bullet
“His only weakness is the writers” type beat
I know they had to kill him off because of a deal with Fox, but they seriously couldn't think of anything better than a bullet?
Man was fast enough to teleport in between 8th gates might guy and jubidara's truth seeker orbs and was able to catch them then teleport away in base with no arms
@Surplus I don't think minato would win because he can't hit a logia devil fruit user because he doesn't have haki but I still think he's fast enough to be comparable to kizaru
@@Po1ArB3aRz lol. Wrong. Lee was strong enough to throw the kunai. Minato had nothing to do since Lee did thr work
Fucking thank you bro I’m so glad someone else gives OP that respect they deserve as far as power scaling
Theirs no respect to give, they just don't compare to naruto characters.
@@timdoe8895 it’s ok “pats head”
@@peanutbutterjelly.7 I know but you need to know. Its ok if one piece is weak, its still the better show.
@@timdoe8895 tbh the only thing that's beating Naruto characters easily is the logia effect. They just can't do anything against it at all, simple as that. And I don't wanna hear universe scaling bs cuz if we're putting them at full potential then even smoker can wipe them.
@@S0n0fG0D They all have a myriad of things they can do against Logia users, logias are weak. Smokers full potential doesn't scale to literal demi gods so get your stupid ass on saying such baseless and one piece throating takes as this.
"But what makes him rasengan proof?"
-Naruto
*Naruto makes a rasengan that can destroy light*
@@codewizard0 if you can touch or catches light go ahead I am pretty sure Naruto speed is not faster then light
@@SLOXU I mean kakashi cut a lightning bolt with chidori and Naruto is definitely faster than kakashi. Also note it takes time for him to actually hit light speed so an nice little flying raijin right next to him and he could tag him.
@@codewizard0 I agree with you but take time for light speed na he can do it any second it not take time cause logia give the user to full control hi property or elements
@@SLOXU anyone above the 4th raikage's speed is FTL Naruto dodged a point blank light attack in the war arc and Minato is faster than him.
Bro that the last part with Garp aged like fine wine
"There is literally nothing Gaara can do against that man"
Gaara: spits at crocodile
Crocodile: dies
Edit: bruh 160 replys bruh it's a joke guys
Crocodile: "And, I took that personally."
A logia user can't be hurt by their own element like imagine hitting akainu with lava it's just gonna make him stronger.
If crocodile is sand al gaara has to do is inject his chakra and be sealed in his gourd
@@timelesswisdom. Crocodile can also control sand so that won't work
@@timelesswisdom. he controls sand through his chakra whereas Crocodile is literally sand and can control it as if it were an extension of himself Gaara will get clapped
One of my favorite things in Verses Match Ups like this is when you have two narratives with drastically different power levels.
You're considered top tier in Naruto if you're mountain busting while in One Piece pre-Wano Zoro was able to bisect a mountain without any advanced Haki Applications like Ryou or ACoC.
but also in Naruto there is a weird Power Curve where Naruto, Sasuke, and the Boruto Aliens are all +Moon Busting.
Actually that feat is commonly used, but right after the moon splitting feat is done Toneri throws the moon at the Earth with enough force to destroy it(which is a planetary feat). He has full confidence he will survive the planet being destroyed and says nothing about Naruto dying. Only that the planet will be destroyed and to say goodbye to it(I think). Naruto proceeds to one-shot him. Easily planetary.
@@diondadigger Yah, but still that's like a handful of people in Naruto while One Piece has a slightly larger percentage of strong combatants (Dragon+Revolutionaries~Admirals~remaining Yonkous~Mink Samurai Strawhat Heart Kidd Pirate Alliance)
Naruto high tiers can easily be scaled to island - small country levels in ap
@@diondadigger It's a planetary feat in the same way that killing the soul king is a universal feat. The moon hitting earth in its self would destroy the earth but his power on its own wouldn't allow him to destroy the earth. At best his own strength was enough to cut a hollow moon.
@@Heroism4499 yeah. I'd say One Piece definitely has more top tiers
Gaara: My sand.
Crocodile: Our sand.
Gaara: *Puts Chakra in* MY sand.
Crocodile: *Still Alive*
Gaara: *Tailed Beast Mode*
I dont think he is that good controlling tailed chakra
@@CliffordDLewis022 probably not but he's still stronger
@@adelandjj1721 gara with tailed beast lost to the fucking C4 guy. I doubt he'll do well against a warlord of the sea.
@@MrReich1918 a week walord of the sea who got beat by water
@@MrReich1918 that 4c guy would kill all of one piece and he didn't use shukkaku.
I have an issue with two matches. Gara's and Sakura's. Gara is shown to be able to put his chakra into sand that he hasn't prepared, and Devil Fruits aren't absolute in their power. It is directly started that a more powerful power or effect can override a weaker power or effect, like a magma fruit being able to kill a flame fruit user. Gara's power comes from what is essentially a minor deity of sand. Now with Haki users vs Sakura, my problem with that, is that the Hundred Healings Jutsu doesn't work like regeneration abilities in One Piece. The Hundred Healings Jutsu works by causing the cells of the body to split apart via mitosis thousands, if not millions, times faster than they normally do. She's basically just ordering her body to do normal bodily healing at a faster rate, and Haki attacks are not permanent damage, you just have to heal from the injuries via normal methods. Otherwise Luffy would never heal from bruises he gets from an opponent's Haki punches or kicks. I'm not saying that Sakura beats Garp, but I take issue with your logic on those two fights
Should also mention that the Byakugou seal also gives a substantial buff to the user in base, on top of having further forms that can be used to further enhance the user’s body (and that’s not mentioning the fact that your already insanely high chakra control becomes essentially perfect once the seal is finally completed); also, side note: This is Boruto Sakura, who can actually compete with adult Naruto and adult Sasuke one-on-one and is unmatched in pure physical strength (even before she enhances it with her own chakra) and chakra control
@@darkyang6601 fair enough. I don't watch Boruto, but I could see that seeing that at the ends of Shippuden she could at least damage Kaguya, even if she was far from the most powerful team member in that fight
@@darkyang6601 for Garaa: the comparison of fruits only works in direct interaction of function, ie the flame fruit loses to the magma fruit because the manga is hotter and the magma doesn't take control of the inferior fruit. this is the case with every other fruit and at best means the garaa's gold sand would not be affected by crocodile... that still leaves basically all other sand that can be defined as "normal" sand including his mother's sand as it structurally is still just sand therefore Garaa still loses
Sakura: Sakura is at best as strong as garp physically but she does not have any ability to bypass armament haki which can clean right through her and while she can heal from most any injury for a good while (and have amped strength while doing so) a solid full body obliterating blow or a finisher to the head will likely put her down. Sakura would really just be hoping for Garp to tire himself out
@@darkyang6601in the boruto Manga Sakura doesn't do shit so I don't get where these feats come from
@@sujithsudhakaran745the war
Sakura’s healing factor does nothing against impact damage. Sakura’s healing doesn’t protect her from getting knocked out from Garp beating dat ass to unconsciousness.
It actually does although she is still going to lose.
Sakura wins
@@unclefatty2049 how tho
Sakura is able to heal her lost limbs even with that she loses I guess but could maybe maybe not last long against garp since she could keep making her chakra full again for quite some time she has the same chakra reserves to Naruto thanks to thousand healings
@ultra saiyan Nah. Just someone not clouded by bias. You have to accept it. Naruto verse is just blatantly stronger than One Piece verse. End of Series characters in Naruto stomp current One Piece characters. This is no shade to One Piece as a story. It's literally just seeing who would win in a fight. If we look at it objectively, Naruto verse power ceiling is too high for One Piece right now. One Piece may get there later, but as of now, no.
Keep up the great work👍
So your argument is, Crocodile beats Gaara... Because Crocodile is sand... And Gaara... Controls sand... Seems reasonable.
The thing is gaara doesn’t have a reliable way to hurt crocodile, gaara’s techniques like sand coffin would do nothing to crocodile since it’s crushing the opponent with sand and unless he’s coated in water or hit with a wet object crocodile isn’t feeling a thing. Also gaara controls the sand by having chakra imbued with it, crocodile is an outside force that can’t be controlled since his sand is already imbued with his own life force, not to mention the sheer level of moves that can injure and even kill gaara is staggering, from absorbing all of gaara’s moisture to stabbing him over and over, poisoning him, cutting gaara with sand blades and more.
didn't you hear? it said crocodile has complete control of sand
What people often forget about Naruto is that 99% of the cast are glass canons. There's a reason why shurikens and kunais are still used. Because at the end of the day, any character can get shanked by a regular kitchen knife.
The only mitigation for this is armor like Gaara's sand armor or the Raikage's lightning cloak which are jutsus that requires a maintenance cost. That and regneration so you can survive getting shanked. But a reminder, it only let's you survive and heal, it doesn't stop the knife from penetrating you in the first place.
No lmao you should know that weapons scale to their user
Also fun fact! Logia abilities can only be nullified by sea stone or busoshoku haki (something that isn't in the Naruto world)
They can also be nullified by natural counters fire>ice
@@donovan4668 not really because aokiji who uses cold/ice fought for 10 days or so against akainu who uses magma and almost won
@@IKBanksI aokiji literally lost a foot, luffy used water and blood to counter crocodile and aokinu put a hole through ace with the help of fruit advantage.
@@donovan4668 aokiji only lost a foot because his logia doesn’t allow him to phase through things like others. Akainu was also permanently scarred from the fight with aokiji. Akainu didn’t really have fruit advantage in a “natural counter” like you said against ace. His was basically the upgraded version of aces, but he easily had much better haki compared to ace allowing him to punch through him that easy.
Water jutsu😭
I agree with all but Gaara. There's no saying how a devil fruit and chakra could interact.
It's likely Gaara's chakra could keep the sand from being used by Crocodile so long as the chakra is continuous.
Also possible that he could simply run his chakra straight through crocodile when he turns into sand and crocodile would have no defense against it cause he doesn't have the slightest idea what chakra is.
Maybe, but that wouldn't help Gaara win because he couldn't destroy the infinitely regenerating sand. And since he has limited chakra, he'd only be able to hold him for so long, especially when Crocodile is so powerful, he can perform most of Shukaku's biggest hits with ease. The amount of energy he'd have to dedicate to controlling Crocodile against his own will is immense, so he'd be drained quite quickly.
Plus, if Crocodile or any of his sand touches Gaara once, he can drain all the moisture from his body. That's something he can't defend against. And that's not even considering Crocodile's actual speed and strength alone are great enough to overpower the guy.
At this point, Naruto, Sasuke, maybe current Kara and the Otsutski are the only ones you can bring to this fight and have a chance.
Oh hell naw that'd be hella overkill Naruto characters like kaguya are planetary and she's the weakest otosutski
One Piece has more than 10 planetary level characters.
Luffy
Whitebeard
Roger
Kaido
Shanks
Sakazuki
Kuzan
Garp
Borsolino
Rocks
@@Pumpkin7269🧢
Bro I’m a one piece fan and I know this is bullshit
@@Pumpkin7269there are only three characters in One Piece currently that have ANY chance of being “planetary” and even then they’re probably just Life Wipers;
Luffy (G5 be crazy) Kaido (pulling an ultron and dropping an island like a meteor but even then i doubt it) and Issho/Fujitora (using his gravity abilities to drop meteors on the planet to life wipe/disrupt the natural gravity of the planet)
You how can people everytime forget that they are supernatural ninjas these aren't their only skills and each one of them have learned hundreds of jutsu
Sakura definitely lost this one but she's pretty underrated in terms of strength. She can also destroy a village if she wanted to and was one of the strongest people by the end of the war. Though garp can probably destroy a naruto village 10 times over if he wanted too but I say the fight could've been something to talk about.
Mans destroys mountains for a warmup 💀
Sakura = underrated.....hahahahahahahaha
By that point, Naruto, Sasuke, kakashi, the kages......anyone of them could destroy a village with less effort. She can't nuke it with a punch like pain did with his shinra tensei, or any jinchurikis with bijuu bombs. She could smash a ton of buildings and eventually after maybe 3 days she would wipe the village out.
@@vkak1 Also Garp can destroy villages in just 1 day and prob under a minute
@@vkak1 Sakura can destroy an entire village in matters of hours not even a day... Destroying a village and wiping it out like Pain did is too different things, but she is still powerful enough to destroy a village in like 2 to 3 hours.
@@bobobo-bo-bo-bobo3683 Garp can destroy that village in the matter of hours, specially if you consider his Haki and speed not just his raw strength.
When you realize Minato is faster than light and chakra is similar to haki since haki is putting your spirit energy into your body/weapon and chakra is spirit energy
Finally a person with a brain
Naruto characters can literally walk on water by maintaining Chakra on their feet
And water is also an element just like Fire, Magma, light etc
But these One Piece fans won't accept the fact and will say "One Piece characters are underrated"
Literally Minato can make short work of Kizaru quite easily
Minato has nvr been stated to be faster than light 🤣🤣
The only one is six path Madara lvl characters are faster than light,
Minato couldn't even dodge unstable obito
Minato isn’t fuckin FTL he’s faster than the 4th Raikage and that’s it nearly everyone of his “speed feats” are you retards thinking teleportation=speed
@@resolute7177 minato had a mental nerf. And you do know that teleportation is faster than light right?
But even without that, numerous attacks are stated in the Naruto guide books to be light speed+. Characters that are blatantly slower than Minato dodged them
@@ultimatezack6437 numerous attacks are stated to be light speed in the guide books. Characters we know are slower than Minato dodged them. So by proxy we know Minato is faster than light
This is definitely "I skimmed both manga and found people with similar abilities or titles" the problem is devil don't work with this because they on a conceptual and gain the strengths and weaknesses of that particular "element's" concept so either the devil fruit user dominates OR they are absolutely destroyed.
Also thats why devil fruit that are foods are kinda broken because "preparation" is part of the concept of that food
huh the last sentence gotta be satire theres no way you that dumb just accept one piece wins this one
Logia and Paramecia users can get hurt by people using Haki.
Haki is using ones spiritual energy.
Chakra is using ones spiritual energy.
All jutsu in Naruto should be able to damage all logia and Paramecia users. So Chakra in Naruto series negates One Piece intangibility.
@@phill9780Most jutsu can’t hurt a logia user but a paramecia is free game
@@XSolidus How so? To hit a Logia user, you either have to have an elemental advantage or use Haki.
What is Haki?
Haki is using one's spiritual energy to strengthen oneself.
What is Chakra?
Chakra is the use of spiritual energy to use jutsu.
Both are spiritual energy. so both would work on Logia. So no, you're incorrect.
@@phill9780 That's not how Haki works bozo. One Piece wipes this board. Just because both powers are a form of spiritual energy, that doesn't mean ninjutsu can damage a logia fruit user. They are seperate concepts.
Gara controls sand croc is literally sand 😂 gara is just lifting him straight into the ocean GG’S
Garra be controlling crocodile like a puppet😂
Carra can't control all sand
@@timenoencan’t he just imbue chakra in crocodile
The disrespect of a Garp v. Sakura battle is insane.
Actually the reason Shikamaru isn’t because Moria can just yoink the shadow because Shikamaru is smart and fast enough to be able to avoid that. The reason Shikamaru loses is because the way his abilities work are completely useless against a person who can completely detatch themselves and operate independently from their own shadow. Because shadow possesion works by trapping the shadow and by extension the physical body because the two are connected because the two are connected
That’s just straight one sided slaughter bro🤣
If he's chakra allowed him to control sand and he's made of sand he's dead.
How are u going to control sand that can absorb your sand and has a life-force
And shukaku is made of sand so gaara is kinda fucked
You can't hurt sand, It's fucking sand, He could stop Crocodile from attacking but since he is sand he can't kill him, Because even if you control sand YOU CAN'T KILL IT BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING SAND
@@ITZJUSZERO he has more than sand, and diesnt have shukaku anymore. But Gaara likely cant even damage the dude unless he takes advantage of his arrogance
@@EmpCalick I agree
He can't beat crocodile
Just dont bring Minato Linked Against Pika pika We all know how that would end
Minato:💀
Speed of an instant is faster than light
@@RoshanPatel1106 he uses a kunai to get around in battle when he is not in linked mode
@@IllusionLimbo he teleports to those kuni instantly so he would be able to move faster
@@archmo5967 yeah but the gap in speed is so minuscule that he could teleport away if minato tried some shit
We forget that we haven’t seen the full capability of kizaru and crocs idk about Moria but I’m bias towards this whole thing
We didn't see pirme moria in action he went toe to toe with kaido wonder how he got that weak
@@avivlitman69 Kaido didn't have his fruit back then but he still was a monster
@@spryzen8728 kaido had his fruit when he fought moria
@@spryzen8728 kaido had his fruit
We saw a dragon in the capital flying when oden attacked orochi
Even if we haven't seen the full capacity of Kizaru's fruit why does that matter? Minato can't touch Kizaru without haki. That's been in one piece since haki was introduced. That's the reason luffy got his cheeks clapped by somebody like Smokers weak ass when they first met. How is Minato gonna touch something that's untouchable like light? Answer? He isn't and can't
Garp about to pop off next episode
I spent the entire video screaming "EXACTLY!"
Crazy how you and him are both wrong in every conceivable way.
@@timdoe8895 how explain please
@@aaronlee6124 Crocodile can't control gaaras sand as it already has his chakra in it so its not really the same as normal sand they cancel eachother out but gaara has shuukaku with him so he stomps. Shikamarus is the same thing along with the shadow possession jutsu being a chakra based thing and not really shadows so moria doesn't do anything and shikamaru is far to smart to lose to him. Minato is faster than light and is capable of reacting to light speed and using chakra to cut it(similar to how kakashi cuts lighting) so kizaru gets negged and if he has the chakra cloak it's not even close. Sakara has nigh planetary amounts of ap, faster than light speeds and the hundred healings. One Piece gets curbed stomped.
I feel like they did shikamaru dirty knowing his abilities would just get canceled out essentially. If Shika was up against some of the other characters he would be able to actually put in a little work I think. I mean basically no other one piece characters have shadow abilities so once Shika catches them their essentially paralyzed. Though a lot of the characters would be difficult to catch as Shika isn’t really the fastest of characters in Naruto lmao.
Coc haki?
@@vegitasama7633 Useless.
I wouldn't say that considering Logia users.
For instance, Shikamaru catches say: Sabo, he can still disperse himself into flame bright enough to either cast off the shadows or burn Shikamaru in close proximity... You're in paralysis and you can't move but a lot of Logia doesn't require movement to use their powers.
@@kami79x oh really buddy?
Lol and yall all forget shikimaru uses others shadows against the moria would have to be carful against shikimaru due to tht and him being veryy smart way smarter the moria and his ego.
I don’t think Minato loses in a speed feat but he would the fight
Minato might be on par with a light speed folk but kizaru has more experience, minato can’t touch and even if he could kizaru can use haki , both observation and armament so minato is going down and as you said putting up a fight
Nah bro, Minato/Yellow Flash is legendary when it comes to speed, but he's not out here outpacing the SPEED. OF. LIGHT. 🤣😂🤣 And that's not even getting into whether speed would matter, considering there's a high possibility Minato can't even TOUCH Kizaru since he's a Logia and you need haki to do that if he's using his abilities. I like Minato WAAAAAAY more, but I don't see him having a way to even make this fight competitive. Let ALONE win.
In terms of speed they could be matched, but since Minato doesn't really have an answer to Logia user. I would give the dub to Kizaru. Unless he has water release but he doesn't
@@ShadowKosmos I mean Kcm2 minato has light speed feats and plus either his teleport justu he probably does take speed.
@@mahamib logia cant be used as theirs no way to hit them at all so wither verse equalization he would get some hits off and could win if he could tag him with flying raijin
The only reason the last one is paid because it's satasfying
Garp is his prime literally destroy the biggest pirate crew to this date with nothing but his punch and Gol D Roger in his side... I love Sakura but COM FUCKING MON
Ratio
Sakura stomps. Don't let your bias cloud an objective fact.
@@phill9780 an objective fact based on what evidence?
@@phill9780 evidence?
@@firstplayers396 Sakura is around the same strength as Naruto and Sasuke at the end of Naruto Shippuden. Either of them stomp Garp. Therefore, Sakura stomps Garp.
The craziest thing was I saw was that someone in the comments of this question said and I quote “minato solos”
1 v 1 against non logia users maibe but solo not on his life at best its a double ko against logias do since he can rip out their souls
Ratio + everyone in Naruto solos dbz and mid piss
If its with kcm sage mode then yeah
@@unclefatty2049 😂😂😂 I’ll pray for yo clowny ass 🤡🤡
@@darkdovah3688 minato isn’t even country level lmao he beats buggy and thats ab it.
Here's a matchup, Crocodile vs Sandman from Marvel
You did not just ask that
@@hoobadoobamaster8551 it's in my opinion an even match, both are masters of sand, made of sand, and thus very powerful, I think Sandman has the advantage
@@fangangelwing2551 but the thing is, croc can control sand
sandman can only use the sand that his own body is made out of, as of most comics
@@WorstGenCrypto In most comic iteration's Sandman can always control the sand around him. You capped real quick, don't disrespect Flint Marko like that. He also can control the soul of the sand in one comic. 90% of his versions wipe the floor with him.
@@kindalucky how he gonna hit Croc tho?
It'll be a stalemate
Minato was faster then 8th gate guy who was bending space and time while moving
Minato could
A: Seal away Kizaru
B:Take him to the FR dimension
Let me start off by saying one piece is my favorite anime and I think naruto shippuden is mid
So kizaru is not beating Minato. First off kizaru does not fight at light speed that's his travel speed. He travels somewhere really fast then attacks you. Where as Minato can teleport instantly and react at speeds faster than light based off the madara vs guy fight. Secondly yes Minato can't hit kizaru but he can seal him. It's said in the story and databooks that Minato is a sealing master and has knows many Uzumaki sealing jutsu. As far as we know kizaru does not have future sight. So what would most likely happen is kizaru would try to attack Minato and Minato would dodge and teleport away. He would probably teleport again and try to hit kizaru but be unable to. So Minato would have to find a way to seal him or its a stalemate.
And as far as garp vs sakura... I love garp he's one of my favorite characters but unless you take sakura prefight with kaguya she's winning. Sakura is cracked in the kaguya fight she punches one of kaguyas horns off, and she wasn't caught off guard. However if you want to downplay that I would bring up sakuras epilogue novel that takes place after the 4th war but before the last. She fights someone named kido a former high ranking leaf anbu trying to frame Sasuke for his crimes. He develops a tailed beast drug that boosts his Chakra by 10,000 times. This by itself should make him at least moon level as 100 jonin were capable of destroying the moon in the last. Sakura states his Chakra is overwhelming, considering that she has been around many 6paths characters yet is still scared by kidos chakra doesn't outright make him equal or greater than such characters but at least comparable. She beats him, but not just that she also tanks a bijuu bomb he fires off. In addition he shoots a lightning style jutsu at her, some lightning jutsu are faster than lightning but I'm going to assume that without the drug kido's lightning jutsu is lightning speed, now as I said before he is boosted by 10,000 times. Light is about 2500 times faster than lightning and sakura dodges this jutsu making her around 4 times faster than light. Garp is fucked. Naruto characters have a way higher power ceiling than one piece characters.
It's stated in the first appearance of kizaru that he can hit you at the speed of light
@@yurei____4315 source?
I feel like a bunch of people here completely missed the matchup jokes and are questioning why theyre fighting the respective characters. Sand vs sand, shadow vs shadow, speed of light vs "speed of light", useless vs useless (because garp didnt help ace) it's a joke guys.
Or your just being dumb because you may or may not be a Naruto fan
I mean, Sakura vs Garp is a joke by itself
He was about to kill Akainu but Sengoku held him back
@@bylopass878 Dude ace already had the giant hole in his chest, garp was overwhelmed by anger knowing ace was dead.
@@kata788 i don’t feel like debating rn so I accept you are correct
One Piece actually takes the win
1. Croc got the advantage of immunity
2. Moria might lose and outsmarted but he is stat wise stronger
3. Kizaru also wins this statwise
4. Garp stomps
Yeah the One Piece characters in terms of fighting ability are on a whole other level compared to characters from Naruto. As ironic as that may sound for some people. 🤣🤣🤣
Narufans out here really defending Gaara and his dead mom
Nah with all the shadow around. It’s infinite power for shikamaru + his intellect.. ggs.
I love how One Piece is the closest Japanese anime will ever get to Toon Force, cause their capabilities are just straight up wacky and thats great.
You wrong on Minato. He solos light speed mfs all day. I'm also confident Garaa could win his match up too.
You chose the two fights that w we re literally impossible for the Naruto characters to win kizaru doesn't just move at light speed he literally IS light there isn't a way to touch him without haki same with crocodile and sand he IS sand although you can't hit him if your fist is wet
@mr.tesser5941 kizaru has to actually go from a physical body to light, doesn't he? I'm positive Minato van hit him before can. Garaa can just sand burial crocodile and seal him up with those seal tags. Sealing is something just about ninja in Naruto can do.
@@Anonymous_Hayabusa kizaru does not need to be in a physical form as seen in sabaody when brook was clearly stabbing him and usopp was shooting him which where just going through him while he was still in mid attack against zoro and sand burial doesn't work on literal sand sealing might be the only way that's if they can get it off in the middle of a fight against these two monsters
Bros has beef with sakura to match her against "HIM"
This isn't a debate. One Piece pound for pound can body all of Naruto. Between Devil fruits and Haki, there's no way.
All of naruto no most of yes manly because there are literally planet busting gods in naruto with stupid hax
@@darkdovah3688 True, 6 paths Naruto and Sasuke are god-teir.
@@Tetsujinhanmaa ummm but can they hit through logia types you need haki to hit them
@@aahahahahahah4337 Probably not. But can those Logia users deal enough damage to stop them? Thats a case by case debate.
@@aahahahahahah4337 Yes they can hit through logia types, The God tiers in naruto have attacks that can destroy space time, Absorb elemental attacks and negate other elements through mastery of literally every chakra nature lmao.
99% of logias in naruto can be pushed back by the average kage tier just because of how vast elemental attacks are in range, Fire Logia? OK water justu. Ice Logia? OK fireball jutsu. Magma? OK ice release and so on so fourth lmao. People are really waking logias lmao.
That ball garp throws looks comparable to the meteor madara yeeted, at least to my memory im a bit fuzzy on the details it was a while
Who put garp vs sakura there 💀💀
She’d literally win😭🤦🏾♂️
@@buckethatkidwastaken no one cares bro
@@rtyugcb8445 I’ve debated multiple people on the topic and beat them all so I’d think at least a few people care💁🏾♂️
@@buckethatkidwastaken get a life 💀
@@buckethatkidwastaken win by loosing and bringing naruto and sasuke that is
How? The hell does Sakura get in this fight. It’s like bringing a ant to a nuclear bomb
I've never seen someone so biased lol
That’s not biased it’s all facts man
Does anybody else actually like weaker characters?
The stakes are so much higher, and power systems are so much more fascinating when characters can't just punch a building in half
For example, I liked the original DragonBall, but the moment we started getting characters who could vaporize planets without breaking a sweat and every fight started boiling down to who could pour more energy into a Kamehameha, everything started going downhill for me
Lol i just imagined crocodile turning into sand and garaa controlling him
Ratio
@@brownelavender You lost
Gaara would have to put chakra in him and that wouldn't work
@@donovan4668 My imagination doesn't really care if he could or couldn't, all it cares about is the image of Gaara yeeting crocodile
@@Random_Gamer-sh6pf bias?
Dude really shows garp vs Sakura 💀
Wow first time Moria doesnt take an L
Well, Minato is faster than kizaru, but at the same time at the end of the day, kizaru has a Logia and that gives him the win
Kizaru vs. princess celestia would be low key interesting
I disagree with Gaara, Shikamaru, and Kizaru. You're running on the assumption that chakra doesn't affect them in this crossover battle. Like you said, they run their energy/chakra through their attacks so you're saying that the left side can simply override that control because they control natural versions of elements. Also, I will never believe that Kizaru actually moves at light speed. He was worried about bullets from Ben Beckman...we saying those bullets are FTL?
He need time to think he is limited by the speed of his brain
And he is caught off guard
@@Mythiophus that's fair, but just going from that scene alone, Kizaru was a fair distance away from Ben and he had all the time in the world to even just move away faster than Ben should be able to react.
Spittin
I mean they could probably fight them until their chakra runs low but I do see your reasons I believe Chakra would work similarly to Haki being able to fight past devil fruits like how blunt usually doesn't work on Luffy but weapons and limbs with armament can hurt him
Couldn’t Garaa infuse his chakra into crocodile sand. Controlling his body?
I’m starting to get the feeling that it’s a rule that any one One Piece character could solo the entire Naruto verse so long as they have a Devil Fruit
As much as I love Naruto to death being my first and favorite anime (and the most I fall back on as a creative outlet) I can’t deny that OP stomps in these matchups so questions asked, they literally do better in every sense
Garra? Fueling his opponent with more sand
Shikamaru? Here pal, have some shadows
Minato? Gotta be quicker than that
Sakura? She had the opportunity and still took an L (I love her potential but she just doesn’t do great things)
Why does everybody always make fun of garp for having to train like that man didn’t get stronger after that and it’s the same for luffy
I don't think garp train's anymore, he stays in shape but he probably is fine with the fact that his time as a big player in the world is over
I'd imagine age has only taken stamina and 20% of his prime power
I read that whole thing in rileys voice 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@humair_k6821 I didnt until you said you did, and it was funny asf. 😂
@@sinceredelva1146 he trained coby and hellmepo
For the minato vs kizaru fight an argument could be made that since chakra is the fusion of physical and spiritual energy chakra attacks can hit logia types since haki literally means spirit and even if it can't minato has sage mode so senjutsu might work, he is also a master of fuinjutsu (sealing arts) so he could probably seal kizaru away or leave a marker at the bottom of the ocean and use that move that teleported a bijudama away to sink him.
I wanna see all these fights in a death battle