How FAR Should a 7 Iron GO?… What they WON’T tell you!?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- We take a look at how different lofted irons and clubhead speeds can play a role in you gaining distance... when we take the marketing out of it.
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Best golf advice on RUclips's is back . No ego , no bull just facts.
Makes me feel better as I stalk eBay for a new set of irons that I probably only want to look at.
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I play off 5, I game traditionally lofted irons, 84 mph swing speed. On course I carry it 155, off a tee it’s 160 yards. I game T100 titleist. I think they’re 34 degrees of loft. But it’s all about the short game. I shot 72 last week level par because my short game was shit hot, not because I was ripping my 7 iron 190 yards. Doesn’t matter.
Exactly. Being consistent with your distances is far more important than crushing it.
Why not play on 5 instead?
Moe Norman. The guy was not long, but very accurate. His putting was not great and that was a serious detriment. If you are skilled around the green, your game will rival those that hit the green every time. I don’t care if you hit the green and you are seventy feet from the hole. Someone with a short iron will strike it closer than you can putt. If you are not working on your short game at least 60% of the time, you are going to have a long day.
@@hillbilly4christ638 so true. It’s money.
@@hillbilly4christ638He hit half as far as other pros. It wasn't his putting.
I started golf in 1990. A 7 iron then is a 9 now...
Marketing at its finest.
It doesn't matter how far it goes. What matters is that you need to know how far it does go so you know what club to pull for what distance.
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Perfectly clear video. No need to keep buying new stuff. Plenty of excellent choices in a variety of specs in the 2nd hand market.
Had this issue with Dynapwr Irons with Graphites, 24° 6, 27° 7 iron. Catch them right there long. But inconsistent. Went back to Lynx Prowler VTs (Simons recommendation) KBS Tour 90 Steel 7 iron 32° way better...
Great video Simon. I still play relatively short iron lengths with old fashioned loft. My 5 iron is approximately most people's 7. Your video shows clearly there is an optimum for every golfer which does not follow the advertising hype.
Yep, get the right type of club for your swing, then technique is all. So if you’re thinking, “I’d love Simon’s help but he’s a long way from me, is it worth it?” or “am I too old, too slow, too whatever, will he help me?” or, “ is he really that nice, that helpful, that enthusiastic in person?” the answer is, “Yes, yes and yes!” I just had a lesson with fitting and I’m blown away. No more expensive than my local club pro either! 😮 Make that call, send that message. BTW thanks Simon! 😉
Great Video Simon. Also you are looking absolutely jacked these days mate. Gym still going strong it seems. I was really interested in your series about improving your students you came up with a while ago. Any update on if that is still running/running again it made for great content.
I don't know if this was the video you're referencing, but Matt actually used 3 heads, Ping Blueprint S (full forged, smaller) which comes in 31.5, 33 and 35. Carried 185/87 @ 33' ; Ping i530 (hollow body, forger face, slightly larger) comes in 27.5, 29 and 31. Carried 207/12 @ 29'; and Ping G730 (cavity back, larger) which comes in 26.5, 28 and 30. Carried 217/18 @ 26.5. Matt's 6i is 30' for reference. The last Ping at 26.5' is stronger than his 5i. Summary lower lofts but higher flights, more spin to less spin. Bottom line get fit. Great info, thanks.
I played a traditionally lofted set of irons for 20 years. 35 degree 7 iron that went 155 to 160. I got older, got some injuries and distance fell into the 145 to 150 range. So I went looking for new clubs. This was several years back so at the time I picked up a Taylor Made M4 and promptly hit the 7 iron 190 yards. That was definitely too far! At the time I ended up with a set of Mizuno JPX 8 something pro's and a a 7 iron yardage of 160 to 165 yards. Easy enough to adjust to. Last year I went back and forth between the Taylormade P770 and the Titleist T100s. Waited and waited and then the T150 came out so I went and tested both again and the T150 was the winner on feel alone. 7 Iron distance stayed right in the 160 to 165 range and I have a better feeling and less beat up set of irons. For me and the courses I play having a few extra yards was not a big adjustment and helps a little while still allowing me to use most of my bag. With an iron like that old M4 I suppose I could have adjusted but I just don't need the ego boost of saying I hit a 7 190 when what I was really hitting was a 5 iron.
Awesome stuff Simon. What about if you shorten the shaft of the Stealth model like an inch under the P7MC. Then maybe see if the distances are the same but if accuracy is better. Could make for a reason why 90mph speeds could use the “game improvement” models at the top end of the bag.
I love it i just learned about this topic and decent angles with my coach when fitting. Definitely had to weaken loft
This is the reason I sold my G430 and started gaming my old G15s. For an elder millennial weekend golfer it’s too much thinking to know what the algebraic expression I need to choose the right “7 iron” for my 160 shot.
92-94mph 7 iron (T300). 185ish yds on simulator but more like 180 on course. I struggle with shallow AoA and overdraw, but wonder if it would just make sense to flatten lie and weaken loft a degree? (Maybe add some lead tape in the high toe?) Better to fix existing clubs than find new/used ones?
On the other hand I feel like distance/direction issues are less than issue with getting “flyers”. I typically stay around the middle of the club, but with T300 I occasionally get an extra 10 yards if I absolute middle the sweet spot-especially with the 5-7 iron.
I swing around 80mph and play the JPX 923 forged. The vice ball selector recommended pro air (#1) and pro and not the tour. I currently game the srixon z star but was not fitted for it
Yeah it would have given you those balls as they perform better from around the green. Similar to the z star mate. The tour doesn’t have a urethane cover, hence a bit cheaper but not giving you control on the short shots. 👌
How is it that I was just thinking about old vs new irons and here you are with a banger. Mind reader
I play Mizuno mp18s and hit the 7iron 200 easy. But I’m also 6’ 3” and they’re fit to my height. So longer shaft adds distance.
My H,I, is 2.0 at the moment. I play Mizuno MP 60 irons so my 7 iron is 35 degrees. I play for it to go 165 on course but comfortably carry it 170 at cruising speed on the launch monitor. I find shot type makea a massive difference where in order to get that 170 and above number I just take it back with a large hip turn and keep my right( back hip high) then have patience while waiting for the head to make impact. Spin comes down on those types of shots.
T100, 175-180 on a good strike. Also use the 7 a lot for chippy 140-150 shots into wind.. I’ve found that shot very useful recently
Second season with Cobra King Tours bent 2° weak. 7i is 34°, carries 155 and easily holds a green with Chrome Tours. Traded less distance for more accuracy/control. HC is dropping and I'm playing my best golf in a long time.
A good idea. My apex 19s are bent 1 or 2 weak depending on the club.
I just got myself a 6 year old King Forged One Length set. 7 is 33deg. I'm enjoying hitting these way more than my 25 year old game improvement irons as I was getting sick and tired if hitting the green, with a goid strike, and watching it bounce out the back. Now getting an average of 6yd roll-out with the 7. The feel is also brilliant.
I typically hit my 7 iron like 140. Kept thinking I really need a new set with modern tech.
Changed some swing stuff. Hitting 7 about 160. Not consistently yet but I can do it.
To quote kids from 10 years ago, get good. New clubs are awesome but it’s not gonna help
I have the titleist t350s and want to move to p790s, but I need to better control my hits. I did subtract 2 degrees of loft on each club.
I am still amazed at the number of people who just take loft on its own as a sign of how far a ball will go. Irons with a lower CG launch higher, so at traditional lofts wouls not go anywhere near far enough so the loft is stronger to rebalance. Its not a one number calculation.
D9 are my traditional lofted clubs at 27o
Brilliant explanation!! Thank you!
I had a fit for new p770 and we had to deloft it by 3 degrees to get it launching right and not going 190 yards..
Awkward because I swing quite fast but still need the help
I was using the t100 irons and couldn’t really get the ball to go to that far ,my 4 iron maxed out at 195/200 . Now back to the ap1s and my 6 iron goes 180 and I imagine I could get 195 out a 5 iron but sadly don’t have one 😂
Mine is 35 degrees 😢
An excellent video
It's all about gapping. Take a random player. Lob wedge goes 70. Driver goes 230. You then want 10-15 between clubs. So SW 85, GW 100, PW 115, 9 130, 8 140, 7 150, 6 160, 5 170 4h 180 3h 190 3w 205. Find the set/loft that does that. What's the point of a 200 yard 7-iron?
I can push my 7 to 200 easily. My swing speed for 7i is 95-100 and driver is 115-120. My normal yardages are:
60: everything under 75
54: 75-110
AW: 115-125
PW: 130-145
9: 160
8: 175
7: 190
6: 200
5: 210
3w: 240-285
D: 280+
And I can get them all to stop and spin back except for 6 and 5
So you need to evenly gap between 75 and 280. That should ideally be an even 15 yard 75-90-105-120-135-150-165-180-195-210-225-240-280. Whatever set of clubs does the trick. It appears your gaps are a little big on the low end.
great video
The answer is simple. One club less than a 6 iron and one club more than an 8 iron. If you know your yardage just pick the club you need for that yardage
Great video
Is it bad that I carry my PW 150?
I wish someone would make a ball alignment guide. I feel some of my distance issues are caused by improper ball placement.
My 7 iron goes 145 or 170. Its always straight or a slufht draw. I dont slice i just cannot get consistent in my distances.
My best games i shoot 90 with consistent distance then the next round i will shoot 105 struggling with distance control.
yup... have some issue. What I'm learning is to control the hit rather than swing harder. I now 3/4 everything but wedges and my distance charts are 10 yards difference each. I can pretty much hit any green from within 180 yards.
I was just the same,I’ve gone single plain swing and knocked ten shots off in three games.
Why 8 years? I’ve got some 10 year old Nike Vapor combos which I think are due a change!
That final SAS bag flipping episode will get more views that Trump v BDC. I am here for it! 😅
So why isn't a bag with only woods and hybrids winning tournaments? 😁
Use 620mbs. I’m about 140-165 with a 7. Used a mates 7 iron and I hit it 190 🤣🤣
It obviously depends who is swinging the 7 iron. I'm 71 , 150 lbs and hit my 7 iron between 145 and 155 for my whole life with several different sets of clubs. Just sayin!!!
At 88 mph the ball should be going back to the future
Only with a flux capacitor can it generate the necessary 1.21 gigawatts
No club has a correct distance because people do not swing clubs at the same speed. Stop trying to hit any given club your friends do and swing within your own capacity without trying to hit it far.
Also a 7 iron doesn’t have the same loft between golf brands and models
interesting
The mind boggles .
Hit any club a lot and you will find what minor variation in your swing gets the best and most repeatable results , i lost my club number ego long ago but sometimes still end up trying to hit the distance rather than trying to connect well , which only ever ends badly .
Why is it when youve spent a year or two learning the idiosyncrasies of a club that people feel the need to change to a new model that they have no feel for ?
I rarely see that end well .
Any decent brand unfettled clubs from the last ten years are going to perform well if used correctly .
172 yards
Notice how they fit you with 7 iron and have no idea if you can hit the 3 or 4 iron.
You need to be most accurate with a 100 yard or 100m shot. 44deg PW going 140 yards. 😂
It's not a game of 'how far', it's a game of 'how many'!
How far has reduced my score by a lot
As far as it wants to…🙃