how does this video have so many little views and likes. This is the most informative thing I’ve found about emissions delete intake exhaust and tub all in a 14 minute video
I love this series for a couple reasons, main reason is I have same 2013 tdi in white with same intake and the other reason is there’s not many videos of this build on RUclips so it’s nice to see someone who talks clearly about the process of the build
Thank you, I had a lot of fun making the content. I have another video coming out tomorrow that will be on the DPF removal. That was the least fun I had with the build. I'm planning to do more stuff, possibly meth injection, cams, then stage 4 TuneZilla with their manifold and turbo set up
@@SouthdownGarage now that would be awesome to see. I’m planning on making a trip to Canada to get the work done since it’s the nearest shop that is partnered with tunezilla sadly. But I can’t wait to see the future for your car it’s like seeing what I’d have if I had the $$ lol😂
This was a very informative video. i have the same cjaa motor and manual trans in my grand caravan.has malone stage 2 tune now. the van feels faster than the 273 horse v6 cause of the low end torque.
Thanks for doing this! I little disappointed by how low the HP was against the advertised HP on the website but then again, you aren’t buying a TDI to go racing.
The horsepower is relative to what dyno you use. The dyno I was on is a Mustang dyno, if your on a Dynojet that's what a lot of companies use because they run fairly close together no matter where you are, but they have quite a bit of correction. I just use the Mustang to show percentage increases. It's quite noticeable let me tell you. I just put the Jetta back on the Dyno just now to test Water Meth and the numbers start higher then before.
I would love to do a DPF, and EGR delete and keep the factory exhaust; where can I go to get this job done? I recently replaced my DPF under warranty, and now my warranty is over, I want to avoid paying for a DPF that will last 70,000 miles. Please let me know where I can get this job done.
I have a 15 Passat with rawtek delete and Malone stage 2, currently have the muffler on. Do you think there would be noticeable MPG gains by installing the intake and removing the muffler and replacing that with resonator instead? Great videos btw!
I have the same delete kit as you (Rawtek), cat, no resonator, S&B intake, stage 2 tunezilla engine and trans tune. I get around 50mpg average if I drive like a normal person.
I don't really understand these figures. I run a stage one tune with only a K&N high flow filter in a standard box. No exaust mods. I get 185HP w 295 ft pnd torque and that's a stage one. So these figures don't seem all that impressive. I have a cffb 1968 cc engine with a standard vg turbo. I can only assume you have a lower capacity engine.
@@SimonWatson-zv1cy whats your correction factore? On a mustang dyno you'll get two readings, corrected which is dyno jet numbers and uncorrected which is what the mustang dyno reads. Depending on the dyno, they may give you the Dyno Jet numbers. If you look back to our fist video of the series we dyno'd this stock. The whole point is to show percentages of increase. So if a dyno reads lower, you take the percentage of increase over stock. Stock these things only make 118 - 120 hp at the wheels. We tested both a golf and jetta and found identical results. If you did these mods and test it on the dyno you took yours to, the percentage gained would be the same. Your hp and torque number would be higher then ours.
This video went over all the mods and how much power they made with stage 2 and with a delete. If you want from stock to stage 2, check out the video before this one: ruclips.net/video/VXKx7m0s5Pw/видео.html
You mean the other video where you don't clearly give hp and tq numbers? People are watching these to see results on the dyno. It's frustrating when you're not clearly giving numbers. In the description of the video you should list numbers there if you haven't said them in the video.
Do you think that the initial testing was done with a delete tune on a car that wasn't deleted would skew the results somewhat? The car is not controlling any emissions components, and tuning for a straight exhaust?
No, I've previously done the same test with a golf previously where it was only Stage 2 no delete tune. I also checked with TuneZilla before doing the dyno run when I realized it was a delete and stage 2 rather then just a stage 2. I did have the same thought as you, but the numbers were identical to the stage 2 only tuned Golf.
I am planning to do a DPF delete on my TDI 2012 what I want to know is it necessary to do immediately or I can do it after a DPF delete to my ECU is it necessary to do it right away or I can still drive the car after DPF, delete with no tune
Hi I made some comments on your other channel before I saw this. Would be awesome to dyno the CP3 conversion. I did mine earlier this spring and saw huge gains seat of the pants. I did timing belt kit, CP3 conversion, Fluidamper “vdamper” & aluminum lower timing cover. How much gain came from CP3 conversion and how much came from fluidamper I’m not sure, but both are awesome upgrades. I already had a buzzken downpipe, Banks “cat back” exhaust, German Diesel Motorwerks EGR delete, Euro CR170 clutch (6sp) and Malone stg 2 tune. I bought the car new used from someone freaking about the diesel gate. I have ran 5w-40 synthetic in it since I got it with 17k miles.
What a find, that's awesome. I'm going to start looking into the CP3 conversion. I'm also switching to 5w40. I bought mine after it was bought back from VW, when they flooded the market a few years ago. It had less then 40k miles on it.
@@SouthdownGarage The fluid damper “vdamper” a machine shop machines fluidamper meant for 2.0 gas VW to work in TDI applications. I have a 6 speed manual and what I noticed immediately was the gearbox chatter with the O2M transaxle was gone. I had already upgraded to a CR170 dual mass flywheel clutch, as my first experiment with a single mass flywheel killed the synchronizer’s and I had to swap transaxles. Between the upgraded dual mass flywheel and later the fluidamper I have smooth shifting and zero gearbox clatter like I did when the car was first tuned and deleted.
@@SouthdownGarage Also the aluminum lower timing cover is a needed upgrade as the stock plastic cover deforms over time and can rub on the timing belt. This can potentially lead to a timing belt failure and catastrophic engine damage. I feel doing the below upgrades all at once: -Cp3 conversion - deluxe timing belt kit with upgraded metal impeller water pump - vdamper harmonic balancer -aluminum belt cover Was a great synergistic set of needed upgrades
@@SouthdownGarage engine speed sensor, then it seemed I had faults randomly from many systems. Car would stall or into limp mode, then restart and drive fine. It only had 160,000 miles, I wanted to drive it much longer.
Great video thank you, so what was actual gain from stock to stage 2 with eco exhaust kit, after delete can you go with different engine oil besides 507 thank you
I have been wondering the same question. I've been doing some digging, however no answer. I'm about to do the first oil change since the delete, I'm probably just going with the same oil. The additives in European oil are so good for the cars I don't know if it would be worth testing out other oils. I'll talk to some VW experts and get back to you.
@@SouthdownGarage it’s been great so far. Golf is a manual and gets right at 50mpg. The Jetta has a auto and is averaging 43mpg with the .5 tune and delete with muffler in place. Going to to an air intake and remove the muffler next to match what I’ve done to my golf.
The cheapest option is a stage 1 or .5 (one doesnt require a DSG tune which will save you around $400 to $500) tune with only eco pipe which is downpipe and DPF replacement pipe ontly wtih reducer to your factory cat back system. It's still going to be around $1500 to $1800 depending on who's system and tune you go with. Check out my links in the description for more details. If your still struggling, feel free to reach out.
@@SouthdownGarage I have definitely been watching all your videos recently I have definitely been watching all your videos recently. I have come up with a $15- 20$ egr block and a top mount turbo bonnet for 158 found if you buy directly from tunezilla its only 499 rn for stage 1. I put about 34k miles on this car last year after everything was replaced under the EPA scandals in the us. Thinking i was clear for it to brake. Seems like after watching your videos really helped me! Trying to find out what an Immobilizer Delete is for. Just trying to get back on the road asap
@@SouthdownGarage just deal with the cat back later. when I have the funds. Im thinking hood stack for rn should work. found it from darkside... anything I'm missing. It is a DSG. So stage one is perfect rn
@@alexandergates7078 yeah, there you go. That's wicked man. I know, I've seen some crazy stuff going on with the EPA it's ridiculous what's going on in the states over this stuff. Makes me frustrated as a car guy living in Canada to watch what's happening.
Ohh there definatly is a drone, at about 75+ on mine there is and then 1st thru 3rd is kinda annoying inside the car, ill be buying the resonator from rawtek soon
how does this video have so many little views and likes. This is the most informative thing I’ve found about emissions delete intake exhaust and tub all in a 14 minute video
Thank you, I really appreciate the comment. I had a lot of fun making the video.
I love this series for a couple reasons, main reason is I have same 2013 tdi in white with same intake and the other reason is there’s not many videos of this build on RUclips so it’s nice to see someone who talks clearly about the process of the build
Thank you, I had a lot of fun making the content. I have another video coming out tomorrow that will be on the DPF removal. That was the least fun I had with the build. I'm planning to do more stuff, possibly meth injection, cams, then stage 4 TuneZilla with their manifold and turbo set up
@@SouthdownGarage now that would be awesome to see. I’m planning on making a trip to Canada to get the work done since it’s the nearest shop that is partnered with tunezilla sadly. But I can’t wait to see the future for your car it’s like seeing what I’d have if I had the $$ lol😂
@@Gripchecker the stage 4 stuff won't be for a while, I gotta recoup after this build. Are you bringing your car to BC?
@@SouthdownGarage I’m not familiar with bc I had my eyes on a shop in st Catherine’s called klammer motorwerks
@@Gripchecker oh your coming up to Ontario. I'm on the other side of the country. I'm close to TuneZilla which is convenient for me.
Man I just installed my Tunezilla stage 1. I should have spent a little extra for the stage 2
Yeah, if you have to get a DSG tune, might as well get stage 2.
This was a very informative video. i have the same cjaa motor and manual trans in my grand caravan.has malone stage 2 tune now. the van feels faster than the 273 horse v6 cause of the low end torque.
Thanks for doing this! I little disappointed by how low the HP was against the advertised HP on the website but then again, you aren’t buying a TDI to go racing.
The horsepower is relative to what dyno you use. The dyno I was on is a Mustang dyno, if your on a Dynojet that's what a lot of companies use because they run fairly close together no matter where you are, but they have quite a bit of correction.
I just use the Mustang to show percentage increases.
It's quite noticeable let me tell you.
I just put the Jetta back on the Dyno just now to test Water Meth and the numbers start higher then before.
Thanks for this it helped me decide what to get for my '14 Sportwagen.
Thank you!! Your going to love it...I miss mine.
Great content. Would be interesting to do the same process to a 3.0l TDI (T'reg / Q5 or 7 etc....
That's cool! That would be fun to do
I would love to do a DPF, and EGR delete and keep the factory exhaust; where can I go to get this job done? I recently replaced my DPF under warranty, and now my warranty is over, I want to avoid paying for a DPF that will last 70,000 miles. Please let me know where I can get this job done.
I have a 15 Passat with rawtek delete and Malone stage 2, currently have the muffler on. Do you think there would be noticeable MPG gains by installing the intake and removing the muffler and replacing that with resonator instead?
Great videos btw!
Thank you! If your just looking for MPG gains, I would have to test it to be certain. I feel like it won't be noticeable enough to justify the cost.
I have the same delete kit as you (Rawtek), cat, no resonator, S&B intake, stage 2 tunezilla engine and trans tune. I get around 50mpg average if I drive like a normal person.
I don't really understand these figures. I run a stage one tune with only a K&N high flow filter in a standard box. No exaust mods. I get 185HP w 295 ft pnd torque and that's a stage one. So these figures don't seem all that impressive. I have a cffb 1968 cc engine with a standard vg turbo. I can only assume you have a lower capacity engine.
What kind of a dyno? Dyno Jet?
This is a mustang Dyno, the numbers your seeing are not inflated.
@@SouthdownGarage Mustang four wheel drive, eddy braked, linked rolling road, capable of testing up to 3000bhp
@@SimonWatson-zv1cy whats your correction factore?
On a mustang dyno you'll get two readings, corrected which is dyno jet numbers and uncorrected which is what the mustang dyno reads.
Depending on the dyno, they may give you the Dyno Jet numbers.
If you look back to our fist video of the series we dyno'd this stock. The whole point is to show percentages of increase. So if a dyno reads lower, you take the percentage of increase over stock.
Stock these things only make 118 - 120 hp at the wheels. We tested both a golf and jetta and found identical results.
If you did these mods and test it on the dyno you took yours to, the percentage gained would be the same. Your hp and torque number would be higher then ours.
@@SouthdownGaragehay Gary, I got stage 2 , tcu tune, waybill smell exast?
Or in the middle is the cookie.
What were your stock hp & tq numbers and after all the mods?
This video went over all the mods and how much power they made with stage 2 and with a delete.
If you want from stock to stage 2, check out the video before this one:
ruclips.net/video/VXKx7m0s5Pw/видео.html
You mean the other video where you don't clearly give hp and tq numbers? People are watching these to see results on the dyno. It's frustrating when you're not clearly giving numbers. In the description of the video you should list numbers there if you haven't said them in the video.
@@shamblinsoftwashandpressur6820 I gave the hp and tq numbers for stage 2 to stage 2 with DPF in the beginning of this video
Your in Canada? I am in the lower mainland BC. Do you want to do my Golf TDI 2013?
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Well done! I love my stage 2 TDI.
Yeah, it's the second VW I've had this tune done to. I'm definitely not done yet.
Great video! Thank you!
Ok, so when are you swapping up to a cr170 and doing the next video!? :)
No, I'll just go straight up to stage four from Malone Tuning.
Do you think that the initial testing was done with a delete tune on a car that wasn't deleted would skew the results somewhat? The car is not controlling any emissions components, and tuning for a straight exhaust?
No, I've previously done the same test with a golf previously where it was only Stage 2 no delete tune.
I also checked with TuneZilla before doing the dyno run when I realized it was a delete and stage 2 rather then just a stage 2.
I did have the same thought as you, but the numbers were identical to the stage 2 only tuned Golf.
Can you clean the dpf, mine will start and shit off after a couple seconds
It depends on how plugged it is. Depending on where you live, the option may be clean or replace with new.
It never hurts to try.
I am planning to do a DPF delete on my TDI 2012 what I want to know is it necessary to do immediately or I can do it after a DPF delete to my ECU is it necessary to do it right away or I can still drive the car after DPF, delete with no tune
It will go into de-rate almost immediately after it see's everything gone.
It's up to you, but I don't recommend it.
You can do tune and no delete, cannot do delete and no tune.
Best just to do both at same time.
Hi
I made some comments on your other channel before I saw this.
Would be awesome to dyno the CP3 conversion.
I did mine earlier this spring and saw huge gains seat of the pants.
I did timing belt kit, CP3 conversion, Fluidamper “vdamper” & aluminum lower timing cover.
How much gain came from CP3 conversion and how much came from fluidamper I’m not sure, but both are awesome upgrades.
I already had a buzzken downpipe, Banks “cat back” exhaust, German Diesel Motorwerks EGR delete, Euro CR170 clutch (6sp) and Malone stg 2 tune.
I bought the car new used from someone freaking about the diesel gate. I have ran 5w-40 synthetic in it since I got it with 17k miles.
What a find, that's awesome.
I'm going to start looking into the CP3 conversion.
I'm also switching to 5w40. I bought mine after it was bought back from VW, when they flooded the market a few years ago. It had less then 40k miles on it.
@@SouthdownGarage
The fluid damper “vdamper” a machine shop machines fluidamper meant for 2.0 gas VW to work in TDI applications.
I have a 6 speed manual and what I noticed immediately was the gearbox chatter with the O2M transaxle was gone. I had already upgraded to a CR170 dual mass flywheel clutch, as my first experiment with a single mass flywheel killed the synchronizer’s and I had to swap transaxles.
Between the upgraded dual mass flywheel and later the fluidamper I have smooth shifting and zero gearbox clatter like I did when the car was first tuned and deleted.
@@SouthdownGarage
Also the aluminum lower timing cover is a needed upgrade as the stock plastic cover deforms over time and can rub on the timing belt. This can potentially lead to a timing belt failure and catastrophic engine damage. I feel doing the below upgrades all at once:
-Cp3 conversion
- deluxe timing belt kit with upgraded metal impeller water pump
- vdamper harmonic balancer
-aluminum belt cover
Was a great synergistic set of needed upgrades
Does anyone want to sell me their old nox converter
i’ve got one. both cats, nox sensor and module, and the flapper valve
My 13 Jetta TDI had so many issues and no one to fix, so I had to get rid of her, rip 13 TDI
I'm so sorry that happened! That can be really frustrating!
@@SouthdownGarage engine speed sensor, then it seemed I had faults randomly from many systems. Car would stall or into limp mode, then restart and drive fine. It only had 160,000 miles, I wanted to drive it much longer.
Awesome video!!!! Thank you sir!
Thank you
Great video thank you, so what was actual gain from stock to stage 2 with eco exhaust kit, after delete can you go with different engine oil besides 507 thank you
I have been wondering the same question. I've been doing some digging, however no answer.
I'm about to do the first oil change since the delete, I'm probably just going with the same oil.
The additives in European oil are so good for the cars I don't know if it would be worth testing out other oils.
I'll talk to some VW experts and get back to you.
I switched to the 5w40 505 oil and have had no issues in about 40k since the delete. No additinal wear according to blackstone labs oil testing .
@Spencer | Sweis12 I've also wondered what oil we can switch to after the delete. Good to know someone's done actual testing. Thanks for the info.
I’ve got this exact set up on my tdi golf and am going to do it to my tdi Jetta.
Nice, how do you like it?
@@SouthdownGarage it’s been great so far. Golf is a manual and gets right at 50mpg. The Jetta has a auto and is averaging 43mpg with the .5 tune and delete with muffler in place. Going to to an air intake and remove the muffler next to match what I’ve done to my golf.
@@heisman01 nice!!
Great content
Thank you
Please HELP NEED A EGR AND DPF DELETE!!! What has both and is cheaper...
The cheapest option is a stage 1 or .5 (one doesnt require a DSG tune which will save you around $400 to $500) tune with only eco pipe which is downpipe and DPF replacement pipe ontly wtih reducer to your factory cat back system. It's still going to be around $1500 to $1800 depending on who's system and tune you go with. Check out my links in the description for more details.
If your still struggling, feel free to reach out.
@@SouthdownGarage I have definitely been watching all your videos recently I have definitely been watching all your videos recently. I have come up with a $15- 20$ egr block and a top mount turbo bonnet for 158 found if you buy directly from tunezilla its only 499 rn for stage 1. I put about 34k miles on this car last year after everything was replaced under the EPA scandals in the us. Thinking i was clear for it to brake. Seems like after watching your videos really helped me! Trying to find out what an Immobilizer Delete is for. Just trying to get back on the road asap
@@SouthdownGarage just deal with the cat back later. when I have the funds. Im thinking hood stack for rn should work. found it from darkside... anything I'm missing. It is a DSG. So stage one is perfect rn
@@alexandergates7078 yeah, there you go. That's wicked man. I know, I've seen some crazy stuff going on with the EPA it's ridiculous what's going on in the states over this stuff. Makes me frustrated as a car guy living in Canada to watch what's happening.
@@SouthdownGarage so I contacted uniconnect and they don't do deletes for the dpf and egr what other tuners can I use
Awesome, just got the full straight pipe and stage 2 tune and finished installing yesterday! Sounds amazing! Great video, wish i saw it sooner
Also the straight pipe is not crazy loud, and i dont have a resonator. Dont notice any drone, not like my dads 6.7 powerstroke.
Really! I wasn't sure if it would drone or not, so I went with the resonator to be on the safe side. Good to know though.
@@SouthdownGarage The drone with a straight pipe somehow disappears when you reach 110mph. I was doing closed off-road, please don't try.
@@Xynurse oh! I hate droning! I'm so glad that you shared that. That's why I got the muffler, just in case.
Ohh there definatly is a drone, at about 75+ on mine there is and then 1st thru 3rd is kinda annoying inside the car, ill be buying the resonator from rawtek soon