I have the spectre comp and both the full size pdp and the sub compact pdp. Even tho I love the spectre I shoot much better with both PDPs than the spectre. The PDPs trigger are much better. That being said as a edc the spectre is hard to beat.
That's less to do with the Spectre Comp, and more to do with the abnormally high recoil of the Walter PDP. It has more recoil than pretty much any other 9 mm on the market imo.
I picked mine up and a xcompact. Went to the range to break them in and thought I should shoot the spectre comp first since it's smaller. The spectre comp had less recoil than the compact. It shot amazing and was just a blast to use. They were hard as hell to find and I still rarely see them.
I got lucky and bought one out the door for 1,000-The difference between nine and some others -there is not the 2 comp cuts. There are the lightning cuts and the barrel is 3.6" -I love it. The last I saw the modle I have is Gun Broker 1,400 plus a bunch of fees = 1,900.
I just got mine last week and its crazy how well it shoots. Even my wife was OK with the recoil and she doesnt really like other 9mms for that reason. This is my main ccw now.
Love the Wilson Combat XL grip module texture/shape. Should try it. One strange thing to me is the Comp has the 3.1 in barrel vs reg XL w 3.6 in barrel. So should it be as accurate? Comp Slides were just released, but they are $450.
I have my own "custom" P365 Spectre Comp .. Got a Spectre Comp slide, XL recoil spring assembly, flat trigger kit and for bonus, Holosun 507k X2 optic for my stock P365. I don't want the grip module because I already have a Houge grip on mine that fits me like a glove.
@ thanks, I’m getting my first handgun in 30 years, probably go p365xl for cost and maintenance. My experience was with 357 and 44mag, so I doubt a 9mm will be any big issue. I’ve been shooting long rifles in 22lr and high end air rifles
I may get one merely because the red dot can be installed without removing the rear sight. Mischief Metal makes an aluminum grip frame with a rail. The Omega version would be my pick.
I can tell you right now as someone who had shot the spectre to the regular XL that the grip module is NOT the main reason for the improved shooting experience. I had the Wilson combat module on my regular XL and it stick to your hands like glue. However the felt recoil and controlability on the Spectre is NOTICABLY better.
Only you and a few that are self convinced of this believe it. I can’t tell No difference if any at all.. recoil is almost the same. At least not the 30% they talk about. In my hands recoil reduction is maybe 5% to none… using the same Federal ammo on both.. to each it’s own. But I would pay $600 extra for this gun.. I rather buy two.
I think the price on these will eventually settle from the 1200MSRP to 900-950, and in awhile they're going to come out with a value version of the Spectre Comp with a slide that has no lightening holes and all black (no gucci gold stuff) for like 900MSRP that will sell for 730-750...but that may take a year. I was going to coat the comp/front end in FireClean (which may or may not be vegetable oil, but definitely makes cleaning fouling off really easy). But it's good to know about the 50/50 vinegar/peroxide stuff. If you want to get rid of the sponginess in the trigger (and really make it quite better), then I'd recommend the Tactical Trigger kit. It does reduce the pull-weight IF you use the reduced-power safety plunger spring.
PS -- I usually use the HS507K, but the Zero ELITE optic is much better than the old Romeo Zero...the point-source emitter (versus masked-LED emitters) makes for a super crisp reticle (the circle-only is beautiful to look at). But I'm still most excited about the new HS EPS optics. I've found that the Ameriglo i-dot SG-101 sights are very low, but totally visible through a Romeo Zero Elite / HS507K.
@Good-riddance-PROPAGANDAtube I've seen non ported Spectre P365xl with a fancy slide, gold trigger and barrel but WITHOUT the Compensator and the Optics plate that leaves the rear iron sights. It looks similar to the Spectre Comp and sells for around $800, but is missing two of the most important features of the $1200 dollar version.
Gray guns grip modules is worlds above both with grip texture. It’s a steep price to pay but you get much more stippling and you can really wrench down on it. I can vice that down and the gun just doesn’t move for recoil mitigation. Dot plus the grip module and the cost of the gun is steep. The difference between the xl and specter comp under those conditions certainly is hard to justify. It is better tho but diminishing returns rings true here. You’re also absolutely correct on the trigger it is the same with a fair amount of slack on take up. Reset is crisp tho and it’s not bad. Just expected a cleaner break compared to the og xl which wasn’t present. All that said it does inspire more confidence and i do shoot better with it. It is flatter shooting and both are very good with the og xl being about 75% of what i think the specter comp is without a better grip module with more stippling. If money is a concern there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the og xl i stil love mine and actually want to safe the specter bc i am worried about wear / build up on the comp with normal use. Maybe that’s just in my head tho lol. Nice review figured id share my thoughts for others interested.
I have shot both versions of the P365, I shot the compensated version and I own a XL. And in my opinion there is nowhere near a 30% reduction. I would say 5-10 % at best, so for me the headache of dealing with cleaning that thing is not worth the gain you get from the compensation.
I added Icarus’ A.C.E PRO ELITE Aluminum lower and it’s such an improvement over the polymer lower. I also added a Holoson 507k red dot with a Streamlight TRL-8A. This is now my EDC replacing my Glock 27 after many years.
@@ThruMyLens100 I have not weighed it but the aluminum lower seems very close to the polymer. I thought it was going to be heavy but was pleasantly surprised. I will weigh the gun with all the options described and get back to you.
What trigger are you coming from that feels better? The P365 trigger (and yes as I indicate in my video my Spectre Comp feels very much the same as my P365 XL) is quite well regarded for a striker fired trigger.
@@ThruMyLens100 from a 320 axg. The amount of take up on the spectre is a mile long. Also I noticed it gets extremely stiff like in the video when you dry fire and go to cycle the slide again with trigger in the rearward position
@@ThruMyLens100 I can’t say I’m impressed with it so I’ll probably sell it, if you know of anyone looking, send them my way. Know they are kind of hard to get right now
love my 365 SC paid under $800 w/ transfer... 800 rounds through so far; favorite gun together w my old trusty 5yo XD mod 2 w over 30k rounds. yes the sig is a bitch to clean and sprays lead out of the top into my face bc I shoot in low Weaver. one issue is the mags do not load to full capacity by 2 rounds... I guess I need to break them in.
As a competitive shooter Who has literally shot dozens of different firearms with compensators, it was certainly an educated speculation. Unlike like your moronic comment.
I bought a Spectre Comp and fired it side by side with my NRA edition XL and for anyone that is considering it, There is a Substantial difference in the Feeling of shooting the Spectre comp, its immediately noticeable and In My Opinion the RUclips reviews did not prepare me for how much better it feels to shoot. To clarify, your Accuracy is entirely up to you as a shooter and your technique, this will not make you more accurate but with the Spectre Comp you cant feel the shot in your hand. That's the biggest way it feels better and with proper grip, tracking the sights or dot is a huge improvement. And I disagree with the grip module thing, putting the spectre comp slide on the NRA grip module its still noticeable that the felt impact on your hand is much less than a standard XL set up, you do have to adjust your grip more if you're not gripping the gun properly but its still not even remotely close to as much as the standard XL package. The Spectre Comp stands out among its Peers (micro carry guns) but its not the end all be all, with practice and training you can shoot just as well with the XL as you can the spectre comp the latter is just more comfortable.
I can tell you this gun is way over priced, especially when I can get a regular p365xl with a romeo1 red dot for 999.00 - 10%. I can't wait for part 2 of this comparison!!
So buy two $400-$600 firearms and a several hundred dollar custom slide..voila you have a Spectre comp. Hmm...all of a sudden my purchase seems like a good idea.
I rather buy two 365 XL.. I will never pay extra $600 for just a grip.. cause let’s face it. The recoil reduction is all bs.. I’ve fired it and I can’t tell the difference..
Question was asked about the difference between the Sig p365 xl spectre comp and the Smith shield plus 4” ported. I own both and the felt recoil on the Sig is noticeably better. both are fine pistols but the Sig wins out.
I paid $900 for the 365xl custom. And it’s MUCH better than that mule you call a hellcat. The hellcat is terrible. The recoil is ridiculously compared to the 365xl. Give me the sig anyway over that piece of crap
Just received my Spectre Comp. Shot it side by side with my full size Walther PDP. I can tell you all that the comp SUBSTANTIALLY reduced felt recoil.
I have the spectre comp and both the full size pdp and the sub compact pdp. Even tho I love the spectre I shoot much better with both PDPs than the spectre. The PDPs trigger are much better. That being said as a edc the spectre is hard to beat.
That's less to do with the Spectre Comp, and more to do with the abnormally high recoil of the Walter PDP. It has more recoil than pretty much any other 9 mm on the market imo.
now I literally want a PDP with a spectre comp slide :(
Nice review. I appreciate that you discussed topics that most others who reviewed this pistol did not discuss.
Thank you for the kind words. Please do check out part two!
Very insightful, John. Love your fair assessment. Nice tips on cleaning and Romeo Zero tips, as well. Thanks!
I picked mine up and a xcompact. Went to the range to break them in and thought I should shoot the spectre comp first since it's smaller. The spectre comp had less recoil than the compact. It shot amazing and was just a blast to use. They were hard as hell to find and I still rarely see them.
It's so stupid how well the spectrecomp shoots! It blew my mind when i was shooting it! Glad you like yours
I got lucky and bought one out the door for 1,000-The difference between nine and some others -there is not the 2 comp cuts. There are the lightning cuts and the barrel is 3.6" -I love it. The last I saw the modle I have is Gun Broker 1,400 plus a bunch of fees = 1,900.
No body mentions the spec comp has a shorter barrel with the longer slide...that has to be a factor effecting recoil.
from the 3.01 size you still need the 3.7 recoil spring to “make” a expansion chambered xl
I just got mine last week and its crazy how well it shoots. Even my wife was OK with the recoil and she doesnt really like other 9mms for that reason. This is my main ccw now.
Love the Wilson Combat XL grip module texture/shape. Should try it. One strange thing to me is the Comp has the 3.1 in barrel vs reg XL w 3.6 in barrel.
So should it be as accurate? Comp
Slides were just released, but they are $450.
Great complete review
Thank you!
Just put 500 rounds stock and 500 rounds with my mischief machine omega grip module. Definitely worth the upgrade. Love my spectre comp.
I have my own "custom" P365 Spectre Comp .. Got a Spectre Comp slide, XL recoil spring assembly, flat trigger kit and for bonus, Holosun 507k X2 optic for my stock P365. I don't want the grip module because I already have a Houge grip on mine that fits me like a glove.
If you only shoot jacketed ammo, it shouldn’t foul, correct?
@@jayholiday256 - incorrect.
@ thanks, I’m getting my first handgun in 30 years, probably go p365xl for cost and maintenance. My experience was with 357 and 44mag, so I doubt a 9mm will be any big issue.
I’ve been shooting long rifles in 22lr and high end air rifles
Just bought one yesterday. Wasn’t planned. Didn’t know anything about it. Carry the 365 every day. Wanted to try to xl. Ended up with this.
#impulsebuy
I may get one merely because the red dot can be installed without removing the rear sight. Mischief Metal makes an aluminum grip frame with a rail. The Omega version would be my pick.
Really? You’ll pay $600 more just for that?… that’s just plain dumb..
Just buy the slide and recoil spring instead of a whole new gun.
Actually the rear sight does need to come off…
I've shot the regular P365XL twice and I love it. I've chosen it as my EDC. What tips do you have for concealment in warm weather?
In warm weather I pocket carry a P365. 😁
Have you researched ultrasonic cleaning?
Pocket carry the 365?... what kind of pants do you wear
I can tell you right now as someone who had shot the spectre to the regular XL that the grip module is NOT the main reason for the improved shooting experience. I had the Wilson combat module on my regular XL and it stick to your hands like glue. However the felt recoil and controlability on the Spectre is NOTICABLY better.
Only you and a few that are self convinced of this believe it. I can’t tell No difference if any at all.. recoil is almost the same. At least not the 30% they talk about. In my hands recoil reduction is maybe 5% to none… using the same Federal ammo on both.. to each it’s own. But I would pay $600 extra for this gun.. I rather buy two.
I think the price on these will eventually settle from the 1200MSRP to 900-950, and in awhile they're going to come out with a value version of the Spectre Comp with a slide that has no lightening holes and all black (no gucci gold stuff) for like 900MSRP that will sell for 730-750...but that may take a year.
I was going to coat the comp/front end in FireClean (which may or may not be vegetable oil, but definitely makes cleaning fouling off really easy). But it's good to know about the 50/50 vinegar/peroxide stuff.
If you want to get rid of the sponginess in the trigger (and really make it quite better), then I'd recommend the Tactical Trigger kit. It does reduce the pull-weight IF you use the reduced-power safety plunger spring.
PS -- I usually use the HS507K, but the Zero ELITE optic is much better than the old Romeo Zero...the point-source emitter (versus masked-LED emitters) makes for a super crisp reticle (the circle-only is beautiful to look at). But I'm still most excited about the new HS EPS optics.
I've found that the Ameriglo i-dot SG-101 sights are very low, but totally visible through a Romeo Zero Elite / HS507K.
+1 on the Tactical Trigger kit. Reduces pre travel and improves trigger break.
@Good-riddance-PROPAGANDAtube I've seen non ported Spectre P365xl with a fancy slide, gold trigger and barrel but WITHOUT the
Compensator and the
Optics plate that leaves the rear iron sights.
It looks similar to the Spectre Comp and sells for around $800, but is missing two of the most important features of the $1200 dollar version.
@GOLDBULLETSBEANSLETSGOBRANDONbullshit
X Macro and then buy a XL module.
Personally I needed the coyote.
I made my own with my xl with a icarus grip module, zaffirri precision threaded barrel and a herrington arms comp. It's night and day from stock
Are the FCU’s the same on each gun? The custom works FCU sold separately is nitride coated and has a better reset feel.
The FCU is not coated. It’s the normal black.
Gray guns grip modules is worlds above both with grip texture. It’s a steep price to pay but you get much more stippling and you can really wrench down on it. I can vice that down and the gun just doesn’t move for recoil mitigation. Dot plus the grip module and the cost of the gun is steep. The difference between the xl and specter comp under those conditions certainly is hard to justify. It is better tho but diminishing returns rings true here. You’re also absolutely correct on the trigger it is the same with a fair amount of slack on take up. Reset is crisp tho and it’s not bad. Just expected a cleaner break compared to the og xl which wasn’t present.
All that said it does inspire more confidence and i do shoot better with it. It is flatter shooting and both are very good with the og xl being about 75% of what i think the specter comp is without a better grip module with more stippling. If money is a concern there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the og xl i stil love mine and actually want to safe the specter bc i am worried about wear / build up on the comp with normal use. Maybe that’s just in my head tho lol. Nice review figured id share my thoughts for others interested.
You will need a 3.1 inch barrel and a xl recoil spring plus the X or xl module.
I have shot both versions of the P365, I shot the compensated version and I own a XL. And in my opinion there is nowhere near a 30% reduction. I would say 5-10 % at best, so for me the headache of dealing with cleaning that thing is not worth the gain you get from the compensation.
I added Icarus’ A.C.E PRO ELITE Aluminum lower and it’s such an improvement over the polymer lower. I also added a Holoson 507k red dot with a Streamlight TRL-8A. This is now my EDC replacing my Glock 27 after many years.
How much weight does it add? The Icarus.
@@ThruMyLens100 I have not weighed it but the aluminum lower seems very close to the polymer. I thought it was going to be heavy but was pleasantly surprised. I will weigh the gun with all the options described and get back to you.
1lb 9.7 oz with aluminum lower, red dot, light and empty mag.
@@KirbyVargasJr thanks for the answer.
What made you go with the 8A versus the 7-sub ?
I can't wait to pay $699 to just to get the upper. Thanks for the detailed review.
hi john i just bought one should i get the romeo zero elite for my gun i heard nothing but bad reviews thanks
As I said in my review I have an elite ordered. But I don’t have it yet.
What pocket holster do you use?
Alabama Holsters Front Pocket Holster.
What about comparing it to the X macro?
Are you going to send me an X macro?
Looking forward to Part II
The trigger feels like trash on my spectre comp. Does your xl trigger feel the same as your spectre comp?
What trigger are you coming from that feels better? The P365 trigger (and yes as I indicate in my video my Spectre Comp feels very much the same as my P365 XL) is quite well regarded for a striker fired trigger.
@@ThruMyLens100 from a 320 axg. The amount of take up on the spectre is a mile long. Also I noticed it gets extremely stiff like in the video when you dry fire and go to cycle the slide again with trigger in the rearward position
@@hurt1704 - there is a bit of take up, but the actual trigger pull weight is less than most stock P320s. I own several.
@@ThruMyLens100 I can’t say I’m impressed with it so I’ll probably sell it, if you know of anyone looking, send them my way. Know they are kind of hard to get right now
@@hurt1704 I have a p229 legion sao I’d trade ya.
Where is part 2?
I have both Spectre guns with the gold trim the x and the comp and there is a difference.
But is it the length of the barrels or the comp that’s the only difference.
I won one of these in a raffle for $52
Cool I bought a Glock at Walmart with food stamps.
love my 365 SC paid under $800 w/ transfer... 800 rounds through so far; favorite gun together w my old trusty 5yo XD mod 2 w over 30k rounds. yes the sig is a bitch to clean and sprays lead out of the top into my face bc I shoot in low Weaver. one issue is the mags do not load to full capacity by 2 rounds... I guess I need to break them in.
You've not shot the comp version but still speculate on its effectiveness. Brilliant.
This explains your low sub count.
As a competitive shooter Who has literally shot dozens of different firearms with compensators, it was certainly an educated speculation. Unlike like your moronic comment.
Mine is a birthday present to myself too. :)
It sounds like your saying that it's just another safe trophy.
Never said anything close to that.
I bought a Spectre Comp and fired it side by side with my NRA edition XL and for anyone that is considering it, There is a Substantial difference in the Feeling of shooting the Spectre comp, its immediately noticeable and In My Opinion the RUclips reviews did not prepare me for how much better it feels to shoot. To clarify, your Accuracy is entirely up to you as a shooter and your technique, this will not make you more accurate but with the Spectre Comp you cant feel the shot in your hand. That's the biggest way it feels better and with proper grip, tracking the sights or dot is a huge improvement. And I disagree with the grip module thing, putting the spectre comp slide on the NRA grip module its still noticeable that the felt impact on your hand is much less than a standard XL set up, you do have to adjust your grip more if you're not gripping the gun properly but its still not even remotely close to as much as the standard XL package. The Spectre Comp stands out among its Peers (micro carry guns) but its not the end all be all, with practice and training you can shoot just as well with the XL as you can the spectre comp the latter is just more comfortable.
Couldn't you just clean your gun righf after you shoot every time to avoid this buid up in the comp?
100% worth it.
I can tell you this gun is way over priced, especially when I can get a regular p365xl with a romeo1 red dot for 999.00 - 10%.
I can't wait for part 2 of this comparison!!
Dude romeo is trash get a trijicon or a leupold
$1300 is way too much for a pistol. I will stick with my Glock.
Sooo… you’re poor? Got it.
The price is relative to the person buying
Get you some silicon grease, and grease the inside of the compensator. Problem solved!
I still can’t believe that they haven’t upgraded the rail system.
sorry i text you to soon in the middle of your video thanks again will stay tuned
So buy two $400-$600 firearms and a several hundred dollar custom slide..voila you have a Spectre comp. Hmm...all of a sudden my purchase seems like a good idea.
Doing this doing that to the gun that you don’t have to do to this gun that’s why it’s $1,200.
I rather buy two 365 XL.. I will never pay extra $600 for just a grip.. cause let’s face it. The recoil reduction is all bs.. I’ve fired it and I can’t tell the difference..
Well it’s obvious you’re a casual shooter and nothing more. There’s DEFINITELY a difference
Question was asked about the difference between the Sig p365 xl spectre comp and the Smith shield plus 4” ported. I own both and the felt recoil on the Sig is noticeably better. both are fine pistols but the Sig wins out.
Pretty sure my ultrasonic cleaner with hot water and simple green will remove the carbon.
As someone who has shot thousands of rounds competitively through pistols with compensators I can say that I’m not just “pretty sure” you’re wrong…
Real men, shoot guns in rain and mud..whats wrong with you?
That gun is $1000 I'll pass and keep my hellcat 🤷♂️
Actually it's going for more like 1399 now😂
@@michaelschwab9563 It’s 1200 all day, look around. Sportsman warehouse had them come in stock a couple times in the last week.
I paid $900 for the 365xl custom. And it’s MUCH better than that mule you call a hellcat. The hellcat is terrible. The recoil is ridiculously compared to the 365xl. Give me the sig anyway over that piece of crap
@@4thqtrgaming290 I mean I prefer the sig but don't be a snob lol sit ya ass down 👎