BEST DeWalt Impact Driver in 2024?
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024
- Can the new DeWalt DCF845 XR flagship impact driver become the king of them all? I put it to the test against the Atomic DCF850, DCF840, DCF787, XR DCF887, Atomic DCF809 and brushed DCF885.
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Awesome work on the visualizations! The best I’ve seen for one of these tool comparison videos. Also appreciate your completeness in covering the lineup.
NO its not, see comment, as an engineer u have a blind spot
@@mos8541 I agree with the comments about many of these tests not being relevant.
However that has no bearing on the high quality of the actual presentation or the range of models included.
I have been considering one of the Drivers for use at home, and have not been able to find a comprehensive chart of relevant info and comparisons on the models til this video. So I agree.
I've had the 885 for many years now. I could literally smell it when you tested it. 😂
Man I know exactly what you mean mine absolutely buzzes, I really need to upgrade but don't know what for 🤣
Man I’ve had 3-4 of them for literally 10+ years haha. And yup they’ve been smelling the whole time but not had a single issue outta any of them! Actually me just deciding to get with the times as far as 20v impacts has brought me to this video 😂. I ended up getting the extreme when they first came out and just never needed the 20v brushless versions as that does everything I need. Or the 20v of course
I bought the 850 at Big Orange just over 2 years ago when it was just released (I found it in top stock and had an employee pull it for the buy-2-batteries-&-charger-get-tool-free promotion) and I love it. I had bought an 887 just a couple weeks prior and hadn't used it. I gave that to my brother-in-law for Xmas last year and he's happy with it.
Newer is not always better. That was probably one if the best setups I've seen. Outstanding video!
loved the graph on the side, really great way to keep track of everything.
Dude this new video format is amazing!! Please do more tests like this, easily one of my favorite tool channels for sure 🤟🏼🤟🏼
FANTASTIC job presenting the graphs/information. Also loved showing what big box vendor had which product!
Great job on this! The more I see the 850 in action, the more impressed by it I am.
I've used all of these models extensively & the DCF850 wins all day! A BIG plus of the DCF850 is that it's 1.5" SMALLER, allowing it to go where none of the others can go...
Any problems with the trigger on the 850 bro?
Agreed. Initially purchased the DCF840 but returned it for the 850. Not sure if it was worth the $100 difference, but can get into tighter places
@@TitanRaider23 I just got the 840. It's still a good tool and it was on sale with 2 batteries and a carry bag for $100 at Lowes. Used it to build a bed frame for my son and it did fine.
@@jacobsebastien3910, no problems thus far & I do work this thing...
Super clear analysis.
Really love the new graphics. And that trigger discipline!
Needed a new drill for deck and fence screws so thanks to your reviews I bought an 840
Surprising results for sure. Interesting how the tables turned from speed to torque. Awesome job on the video and all the details Jim. I know this takes a lot of work and much editing time. It's noticed and appreciated! God bless!
that graph is amazing bro. good job evolving that.
I bought the 887 when it first came out and still use it a lot and it works great. I got the 850 when it came out due to it's stubby size and agree it's a great all around performer. From this test it appears I bought the right ones. Very good testing and you earned my subscription.
I also bought the 887 when it first came out and it has been absolutely great! Still running like a champ to this day. I have done everything from framing my basement in with it to tearing down 2 engines and reassembling with it.
I've dropped my 887 out of an attic, off a roof, use it everyday for HVAC work, and it's still working just like the first day I got it. Built like a tank. Interested in that 850 though.
The DCF850 is an absolute monster; ESPECIALLY with the Power Stack battery. Also - the Norske bit holder (review by PF) is wicked nice
Norske 🤌💯
The 850 should have XR branding on it imo. I get the marketing issues they’d have with the whole atomic thing, but XR is supposed to be the flagship, and it’s not the fastest or strongest, hell it’s not even the best looking. If I were getting into the Dewalt line, the 850 would be the one I’d pick up.
Overseas it's actually branded as XR, go figure 🤔
@@PhillyFixed it sounds like they know it too then lol. They won’t take any sales hits because of it, but it’s not a good look for the XR brand. I’d have went with atomic regardless, just because of the nature of woodworking and custom furniture and needing the extra clearance from the smaller form factor.
The problem is public perception. The unwashed masses don’t know how much power the 850 really has. All they see is a tiny impact. Dewalt is milking the bigger models that are cheaper to make. They know how much power the 850 makes they want to see how much demand is generated by these online reviewers vs. just the floor display models where none would be the wiser passing by.
Beat me to it Jim. Here in the UK it’s branded as an XR model and no mention as an Atomic. I think that’s the way to go as it’s a stand out tool for me in Dewalts range as well as impact drivers in general.
@@Griffinwoodworks
You’re dead wrong. Home Depot’s DeWalt “Atomic” line is for DYI customers, customers who don’t put a lot of hours on their DeWalt tool(s), and or customers who don’t know the XR is the high performance line.
The 840 is the deal because that’s an XR without the “XR” stamped on it. It was clearly the best *DRIVER* out of the group. The 840 is also smaller, lighter, and has a much better balance in the hand than the 850. The 850 would be uncomfortable to hold all day, with the fat heavy head on it throwing the balance off, for people who have to drive a high amount of screws, lags, etc. on a regular basis.
The 850 is a money grab for DeWalt just like a vast majority of the rest of their Home Depot line…which is their weaker performing line when high performance is needed.
Ive had rhe old 885 brushed model for a long time and its been very good never failed
I love both the DCF885 and the DCF850. I've tried all the others (but the newer 845) and those are my two favorites, hands-down.
The 850 for its compactness and the 885 for its feel in the hand (very well balanced tool).
Hell yeahh!! 850 my fave impact!! hammer drill is the 805 or the 999 with flexible advantage 👍
Man, your formatting and organization and the clarity of these videos is crazy good! Definitely earned a sub!!
I LOVE the accumulator graph to visualise speed and speed differences. Keep this trend.
Very helpful. Finding the best deal on a Dewalt tool is tough because of the mixed up numbering system.
I really enjoyed how you presented the data - bar graph style. I always wondered how my drivers stacked up to each other - now I know! Thanks for the vid. Well done!!
I still have my 885 and I like to bring it out once in a while. It can definitely still hold its own
at 7:21 is the 887 set to tightening the nut instead of releasing?
Great way to show this information, Jim. Easily digestable and clear. Very well done.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't jealous at how good you're editing skills are. Great video man!
This was the most helpful video on these models and exactly what I needed to see. 850 it is!
I have my old 885 from many moons ago and still going strong, but been wondering whether or not i would be getting any major benefits in upgrading.. this video told me all i need to know.. the new models are powerful and great, but for what i use it for my old 885 is still worth it's space in the toolbox for a while longer. Thanks for the video man 👌
I've had my 885 since they 1st came out. Still going strong. Hell, one of my guys asked to use it because his Milwaukee died. We were about 30 feet in the air and the jerk dropped it. Still out lasted his replacement.
Don't comment vary often on videos but MAN THIS VIDEO WAS AWSOME!!!! Really good tests 👏, excellent graphics 👍 and very entertaining. Have to do the same one with the Makitas!!!!!!!
Makitas coming soon!
@@PhillyFixed 👍 Love Makita ❤️
Dude please do this same layout for all the drills. Love the way you lay all of it out.
Awesome Review....I got my DeWalt dcf845 in last week (2/15/23) I used it for 1 day , expecting it to be the Best DeWalt Impact Driver yet and it Flopped , I went right back to my dcf850 the next day and it's 14 months old at this point , I use that Impact almost everyday and it still feels like New . I'll say this , the dcf845 IS a bit more Refined , it's smoother , and actually Doesn't have that Bit Wobble that my dcf887 had pretty badly ..... Still Love my DeWalt tools though .....👍🖖
I've got a few work buddies that are still rocking the 885's. We had a recent death from the tool boxes. An 845 got ran over a truck.
I've never owned a dewalt drill in my 10 years of being an electrician, but I need that little stubby. This video definitely helped me decide!
Great video man! I can tell you spent time not just with the testing but also the video editing. Awesome job!
The 850 is my absolute favorite. It's compact and stupid powerful. Torque test channel has a great video on it and they also confirmed that it's still the strongest
Lol I just saw your channel and you've already collaborated with them. No wonder your video was good and not just another sales pitch
reviewing this again .this really is a good review . Easy to grasp your results ,good diagrams .
Great work on the graphs.
Yes the 850 is a XR in UK, i just got Kit DCK2050M2 at Home Depot in the AZ. It came with 2, 4HM batteries branded XR. With hammer drill DCD805 XR branded.
I have the 840 and love it!
DCF887 works pretty well overall for me. Although I'm on my third 887 in three years. Problems with bit holder and trigger switch on the first two. Still usable for around the house though. 👍
I have friends that have had the same issues with the 887 but I've had mine since 2017 and have never had any issues
New DeWalt impacts aren't like the old school post type , but I am pretty happy with my atomic and my 887 .
The 887 was my work horse but I started using my 850 and can really see a difference in how smooth and quick it is. Same specs but just has a smoother feel.
Hi, I am considering upgrading from 887 to 850 based on smoothness of operation. I use the driver a lot. After a particularly gruelling session driving in a lot of 6x100 wood screws (lots of heat, wrist exhaustion) and after having used this model a lot for last four years, I was looking for something that gave me better ergonomics.
Can you give any more detailed comments about how they compare after using for a longer time?
Is the difference huge and noticeable or is it just a small step up?
I have used a Makita before and really prefer that because of the ergonomics, just seems lighter and more powerful than my 887. Would you say the 850 seems to deliver more power and less wrist ache? I can see it’s no lighter.
I would really consider getting the makita, even though I have fully bought into dewalt and already have 4x 5ah batteries.
I am very annoyed by all the content on RUclips, sick of all the speed comparisons - that’s only half the story for people who use the tool daily… can’t find any decent reviews of the tools because of this!
@@MatSmithLondon Excellent question and I agree 100% about the speed test, it really doesn't mean much in the real world. I am a man on a budget, and I focus more on longevity. So DeWalt is my primary brand but I do have some Makita, M12 and Ridgid tools as well, so I like to think I am unbiased. Makita makes an outstanding product. I haven't used their impact drivers but I have plenty of other tools (router, circular saw) and I would say overall, they tend to be more smooth and easier on the hands and wrist. They really are well designed tools but I have found they tend to be slightly more expensive. The 850 is excellent. It is more balanced in my opinion (than the 887) and the coupler doesn't seem to lock up like the 887. Also, I haven't noticed it heating up as much. The overall smoothness (less vibration) is much better than the 887 and that is why I have started using it more. All in all, you can't go wrong with the 850. It is a tool you can hand off to kids and will last a lifetime and serve you well. I found a lot of sales on them too so you may be able to find it for $99.
@@Meme-zc4cw Thank you. That’s very helpful!
I just bought the 845 And yes it may be quick But the speed control is very twitchy. Tried putting a couple of 3 and a 1/2 inch wood screws into a 4 by 4 and I almost shredded the screws. I use a makita d t d 1 7 1 18 V impact driver everyday. It has a 4 speed trand is very usable and controllable where is the 845 Is useless without control
DCF805 is so phenomenal... With shortest body, but it has the highest torque power... So amazing... Maybe if we use to drive, the power is big enough to ruin our bolt and nut.. It's my opinion, thank you for sharing. I do appreciate it 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😊
Glad I bought the 850 was like a loyal fan watching this lol
love these tests!!! thanks so much for posting this, shows exactly what i needed to see!
I have the 887 and I’m super happy with it. Most of my work is fastening hundreds of screws a day.
I use a DeWalt dcf888 and have had zero issues. Plenty of power and batteries last. I do commercial HVAC and DeWalt dcf888 is the way to go in my opinion.
Yup, same as the 887 except with the tool connect feature.
One of the best videos on RUclips I’ve watched this atleast 3 different times when looking into modifying or purchasing another driver. Thanks. Any chance you would do something like this with the dewalt DCD line up?
Awesome review Jim, really enjoying your videos. Still waiting for Makita td171 vs xdt16 review though.
I have them both XTD 19 in the US. Performance similar but the 19 has some ergonomics I prefer. But I love all my Makita impacts. I have 5
Just bought the 887 XR kit, KIND of wishing i would have done more research. As the 850 is pretty dang solid it seems. But I'm not horribly disappointed. The 887 holds up pretty well in ALL categories and seems to be a better all rounder. Just chunky lol. Can't wait to get my hands on it! Awesome testing by the way, easy to see the results in perspective!
Got the dcf850, its probably going to be my mainstay for years to come. Perfect for driving in tapcons/screws for lights or unscrewing those ungodly long machine screws holding up exit/emergency ights
Great video! Great visuals. Perfect for weeding out the Dewalt over inflated tools. Drills are even worse. They have like 20 drills.
Amazing video and visual charts. This is an awesome comparison that’s clear and concise. Thank you!
I have waited for this vídeo for years!!!! 😂🙏🙏🙏❤
@@dombox7644 updated vid with DCF860 coming soon!
So satisfied with the presentation, awesome video, thank you
Love the bar timers bud. WTF is going on with this 845?😂. The video couldn’t have went any better man. Turned out great
Excellent clear explanations, will drive me to take my decision, thank you!
I now feel great with my purchase of the 840 kit. Came with 2 batteries and a charger for $100 from lowes. It won the first 2 tests hands down. That last test well 😅 that's what 1/2 air impacts are for. Home depot has a similar kit for $100 but it's the 809 eww. Great video 👍
My thoughts exactly. I saw Northern Tool had some tools/sets on sale heading into Memorial Day...started comparison shopping, and found the same deal you did at Lowes (similar at HD). And minus 10% mil discount makes it $90! Or at NT, go with the 809for $99 add a small $1 item to use the $20 off $100 coupon making it $80 (for the 809). I have been trying to compare the 809 and 840 and think the 840 is the way to go...esp w/ two batts and charger...versus the more expensive 850 for what I will use it for (not braking lug nuts).
really like the video, setup, visuals, super easy to follow. not even a dewalt guy
Wow I'm impressed with the 850 and glad I have it. It came in a two bundle but I was more sold on the hammer drill and didn't know much about the impact driver.
The 850 is an XR model everywhere else in the world except the US.
I love my 850, but mine broke so i bought a 845 with 2 PS for 179.00 no regrets.
All Atomic tools are only called Atomic in the North American market. Look at the compact impact wrenches, compact SDS, compact bandsaw, etc.. In the US/Canada they are branded Atomic, elsewhere they are branded compact XR.
Great video. I think DeWalt actually trying to produce a specific 1/4" hex driver each individual roll in the construction industry and by default, cross over into other rolls as well.
My 787 is a daily and never lets me down im in transport refrigeration and at the time the price was great battery's last forever during use.
That brushed one tho its impressive but like my dewalt brushed grinder as good as it is it will be power hungry.
I'M SO GLAD I BOUGHT THE DCF850......IT'S A BEAST.
Xclnt production!! Bars and graphics provide clear and discernable comparisons!!
I realize there are people out there who will use 1/4" hex just about everything. These same guys will take a brand new tool of whatever brand/model they've gotten their fingers calibrated too, build 3 or 4 houses with it, then get ride of it. They charge a brand new ser of tools out for every job cause they're hard as hell on them. I'm not leaving this comment for their sakes. If I were in their place, I might do the same. However, I'm a mechanic. That ain't how I roll. I'm a proper tool for the proper job. If I need a 3/8" or a 1/2" impact, that's what I use.
I work with a couple boys that have DeWalts they've been beating on for 8 yrs or more. One of them is an 885 that's been run over twice, and is on it's 6th trip back from hell, and will be headed back on a return trip if it keeps up. He also has a newer brushless model, I think the short fat one, forgot the model#.
I have the 887 and then I got the 850 atomic and I love my 850 it’s compact and powerful for what I do I highly recommend it
I had a fun time watching your video!
Really good incite to what these are actually used for as you nailed it when you said these are for screws not blowing bolts in and out as you would buy a impact wrench not driver
Awesome video, a note to those who might not know, it's cool to see the brushed model hanging in there but I still wouldn't buy it because in 5 years tops that motor will be worn out with jobsite use. The step up to brushless is really worth it.
It's a shame Dewalt didn't make their new impact any better than what they already have. Seems like Dewalt needed to do the testing you did before releasing the tool.
Replacement brushes for those dcf885s cost like 10 bucks and require u to unscrew 8 screws and maybe cut a sticker if your warranty sticker hasn't disintegrated yet. That's if your your tools even last 5 years after the abuse
The motor won’t last 5 years because it’s dewalt… and sadly that brushed impact is dewalts best one.
@@joshuaware3304 What is this opposite day?
@@Russkiman96 oh an 885 will last much longer than 5 years of abuse trust me on that those are some of the most bulletproof cordless impacts that have ever been made
@@joshuaware3304 My old dc825 is still around. Used it yesterday. I much prefer the dcf887 I have but that old 18v xrp line has been solid and they're over 14 years old.
I love my 850, it an absolute work horse for me. Its obviously the most compact out of all of them, & with the power stack on it its the lightest. Thats why i have 2 of em!
Love this comparison video and I think I'm going for the 850!
MEN LOVE GAUGES. this was so nice to watch and visualizes how i always imagine in my head how things should look tested.
I have the 885, had it for Many years. Been a very good tool and it's heavily worn. Looking to replace it with brushless
hmm what bits did you use in the first segment looks pretty cool
They're Spyder Mach Blue. Decent bits, nothing too special though.
We’ve had two of the dcf885 for 10 years. They have been good us, one of the best from dewalt
That 850 is a beast when it comes to torque, I am definitely getting a new one instead of switching
Graphs and visuals were awesome
Excellent video and testing. Overall I think I did well buying the 887 5+ years ago. Cheers!
I have a few of the 887’s and a couple of the 850’s. I was going to upgrade the 887’s with the new 845 but now I’m just going to keep my 887’s.
This video makes me feel good because I chose the 850 after an extensive study.
Milwaukee next? Include older gens as well?
What about the DCF886, didn’t that come out after the 885 and before the 887? I’m curious how that stacks up with the newer models. I purchased a DCK281D2 combo kit package somewhere around 8-9 years ago, included a DCD790 20V Max 1/2" Brushless Compact Drill/Driver and DCF886 20V Max 1/4" Brushless Impact Driver. They are both a beast and have performed flawlessly. Was always impressed how it drove in 3”-4” deck and lag screws.
The DCF886 is no longer sold, all of the models in the video here are in current production as of filming. It looks like it was superseded by the 887, so I would assume the 887 performs slightly better.
Well up through the 887, I can't speak to the newer ones, but a LOT of tradesmen preferred the old "linear" 885 and its variable speed control over the 887 that was also known to smoke...AND they just get less and less expensive for what is still a nice impact driver for anyone. But, if you are a homeowner just starting into a more expensive platform and choosing black and yellow, you would NOT be wrong in choosing it as a place to start.. And if going with a hammer drill the old 796 will get it done also...ask the Ryobi hammer drill that flew across the yard one day when using both with different bits.
It really seemed like a simple design process to devise the flagship. Take the DCF850... and make it slightly longer and give it more RPM/IPM. How they didn't figure that out is beyond me.
If you open up the 850 you can see the motor is unbelievably tiny. That means whatever mathematics they’re using in the gearbox is way more efficient than anything else on the market. Imagine that scaled up to something the size of the 921, that’s only about 20% more powerful in testing, with a gearbox twice the size.
I would love a bit more power in my 850, at least after having tried milwaukee impacts which are much more powerful - but still compact. However the 850 is still a good performer when you consider how tiny it is.
I bought one loved it so much had to get it second one
@@jasonvandervalk3679 I highly recommend doing the 3/8 anvil modification. It's so easy to take out bolts in very tight spots. I put a 3 inch extension on mine and there's no way I'd go back to a bigger impact.
Let's try DCF 860 & DCF 870 !!!
I would love to see dewalt put a little of the energy they put into the drivers, into making a 1/4 impact wrench. It seems we have everything except a 1/4 impact wrench within the 20v family
Super test, very interesting. I don't know that 840 so bad in torque
Great review - thanks! I think I'd still go with the 840 though - it's smaller, lighter, faster, & cheaper than the 850, and beats it in every tested application except the one that (as you mentioned) you wouldn't use an impact driver for 👍
It doesn't beat it in every application other than impact wrench work. It also doesn't beat it in all the applications that a DCF850 will fit into and a DCF840 won't. Just to be fair. I own both. Use the 850 way more.
@@orijimi Interesting - what application is that? (by "every" i just meant the tests in the video) Something where the shorter head is better than the narrower head?
@@skygreen5939 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. For instance, working in crawlspaces, the 850 is to die for. Even if you end up using a right angle adapter anyway, the visibility it grants as well as less unwanted leverage to inadvertently pull your bit off a fastener is so valuable.
@@orijimi fair enough - appreciated!
Awesome just what I was looking for. Great job!
If you have a regular set of tests you perform and time, then we can compare tools across different videos.
for example how does DCF850 vs TD111 compare
Reminds me that my old 885 for average house projects is more than enough.
Dewalt is the GM of the tool brands: they have so many models doing the same.
The fact they sell Home Depot Exclusives and Lowe's Exclusives adds an extra layer of complexity and extra resources that would work better if they just had 3 or 4 models to care for
And of course, so of those "exclusives" are the same tools (looking at you Power Detect/Flexvolt Advantage). Making it extra funny that the other retailers like Acme carry both.
But they sell a ton of tools...
@@reginalb124 true they sell a ton worldwide. I think they're still no. 1 in sales but something tells me they don't have the biggest profit of them all and these kind of extra R&D, validation, certifications and related stuff may be part of the problem.
When you need more brands and lineups to sell just slightly more than the competition you know it will hit profits, just like it did with GM at the turn of the century where its 8 brands or so proved too many as more automakers hit the market with more competitive products.
I can see badge Engineering on Dewalt more often than any other brands, just look at the new Lowe's exclusive 20V drill DCD793. It looks the same as the old Atomic 708 that's just been replaced by the 794.
@@reginalb124 another reason I know they're not doing that well in profits is the recent announcement of SBD shutting down a SC and a TX factory.
You shouldn't expect that from the #1 selling power tool company.
But once again they just have too much clutter
8:10 it should count if it's moving
Yeah I probably could've given it that one
I deicded to switch from Makita to Dewalt and started with the DWS520 and DCF850. Awesome tools. One thing: Torque is measured in NM not in Bodypart/OutdatedSomething
Units for torque are too :
lbft
(he said ftlb, which is totally wrong)
Why does everyone only drive screws into wood. I want to know what design is better for working 20’ on extension ladder having only one hand at a time. To remove and install service panels. If you have been there, you know if you haven’t, you don’t. Basically usability in awkward positions.
Like you said, I think the 840s are specifically for roofers or someone driving in thousands of screws. They're comfortable to use for long periods and have that big, long, beefy gearbox that isn't going to overheat or break in a hurry.
I have the 850, it is truly a brute.
I was there in 2011 to 2015 as crane operator. Now I'm in tanajib marine STEVEDORING
What I REALLY wanna know (and nobody ever reviews) is the trigger control on the brushless models.
Ex: deck screws, Sheetrock screws. Trim screws; how easy is it to drive then flush (not buried) in a normal drive mode.
Excellent presentation.
Can you please do a review on the elusive and rare DCF 895b.