I witnessed this crash myself. It was two days before I graduated from Navy boot camp, which was just west of MCRD and the airport. I was on the bow of the "USS Recruit", which is a fake ship in a parking lot. Saw the midair collision and both aircraft going down. I was not quite 18 years old at the time. Still can picture it in my mind like it was yesterday...RIP
I can't even imagine how terrible that must have felt the moment you saw that. Maybe there was some hope that the airliner was going to make it, but I'm sure the closer and closer I got to the ground there was less and less hope. And then when the plane impacted the ground, I also can't imagine what might have gone through your head, knowing that potentially hundreds of people just died in the blink of an eye. This is just such a tragic and preventable disaster. The pilot's final words to ATC were "this is it, baby!", and the final words spoken in the cockpit were "ma, I love you". Nobody should ever have to be in that position, witnessing their death rushing towards them, knowing that more than 100 others would be joining them, and knowing that they were partially responsible for that situation and absolutely powerless to stop it.
@@R2Bl3nd it was definitely the most horrific event I'd witnessed in my 18 years on the planet at that time. I'd never flown on a commercial airline before and two days later I had to fly from LAX to BOS and then a connecting flight to New London CT for sub school...Greyhound or Continental Trailways was looking like a good option, but I didn't have time...military orders said I had to be there sooner than the time a bus would have taken...
I went to bootcamp in San Diego back in Sept 1993. I remember the USS Recruit. We would go and use the phones inside of the ship every once in a while to call back home. I remember marching several times past the ship as well.
First, thanks for your service. I grew up in Mission Hills San Diego during the 60s-80s. Our house was overlooking the airport, MCRD, and the Naval Training Center. I had a paper route there as a kid, and could hear revery being played when folding papers in the morning. I went to Jr high in North Park, near to where 182 came down. Like a stupid curious kid, I road my bike very close to the crash site with a friend, shortly after it 'd happened. Beyond the shadow of doubt the biggest mistake I've ever made. To this day, the smell of jet fuel makes me sick.
That terrible photograph of 182 in its final seconds is iconic. Not just in the USA. God Bless all who were lost in this tragic accident, and those still affected by it Today. Best Wishes from England.
Its one of the most haunting pictures ever taken in my opinion. All those people in there, no way out no way to change whats coming. It makes you think about the horror each person was feeling at that second, and the smoke trail in the blue sky, horrible.
Gazza 29 I was born and raised in San Diego and remember it well , my father was at a gas station a couple of blocks away . He went right to the blood bank to give in case it was needed , turns out all died ! Thanks for the comment all the way from our mother country !!
@@davidca96 When I saw the picture the next day it was like a streak of fire going up my spine. Never saw something like that before and haven't since (at least not an in flight pic like that except for 9/11)
RIP Don Ashcroft and Mary Beard, the coworkers in Sacramento that I never got to meet. But your coworkers at FHWA made sure I knew your stories when I took over your job, Mary. I knew I had big shoes to fill.
I worked as a ramp agent with National an then Pam Am. This was at Lindbergh of which the flight was to land. The fire burned into smoke into late evening. My memory the next day was being at the Terminal seeing beautiful PSA Flight Attendant ladies crying and comforting each other with hugs while they huddled together in the terminal. They had learned that a group of Flight Attendants they knew were on that incoming flight. They lost their close friends. I felt their sorrow as I stood near by. I wanted to go to them and cry with them.
My brother is a police officer and just the other night he was telling my husband and I the same thing the officer said in this video. He said he can still see the bad things he’s seen over the years, smell the smells, see the horrible car wrecks, see the gun shot victims. He said even years later you can go by the places where bad things happened and still remember it all so vivid and still feels the emotions.He said he’s seen things that no person should ever see.
I knew the first San Diego police officer on scene that day. Cops seem to come in two varieties. Either they are open to talking about police work or not. He was the former. He told me things that he said the media never learned, wrote about, or filmed and saw that as a good thing. I don't know the relationship of the police and media in 1978, but police in general are not fond of the media.
@@maxsmith695 Luckily we live in the country and a very small town, maybe 1, 200 people. Mainly the police only had to talk to the local newspaper which my brother wouldn’t do. They’d have to interview another officer. They did have a couple of officers that would be the only ones that would talk to the news stations. He’s not fond of media to say the least. He only talked to me, my husband and son one night when my 20 yr old son had told him he wanted to be a police officer. My brother said absolutely not would he let his beloved only nephew be a police officer. Other than our Father, my brother wouldn’t talk to anyone about his work. He never wanted to worry Mother or me. Sometimes he would tell us something that had happened cause he knew we’d hear about it but he always down played it for Mother and After years and years of being a police officer my brother is now retired after loosing eye sight in one eye and bad eye sight in the other eye due to an inherited eye disease.
It was horrendous. We were stationed in San Diego at the time and the impact of the plane hitting the ground and exploding knocked me off my sofa on the other side of the highway. It's not something you forget.
Apparently the impact was so violent that the shockwave, literally the sound of it, was enough to immediately end the lives of all on board. A merciful end to what must have been an absolutely terrifying half minute or so from impact to collision.
@@R2Bl3nd - From a police office who was first on scene, that i knew and talked to, there was at least one survivor. Not sure how long the person lived. No need to say more.
@@sandeepvm1572 I wonder what his words would have been if had he not been sleep-deprived and hungover as reported by a passenger witness who wisely left the flight in Los Angeles. Probably not applicable, but that would have just been kicking the can down the road (or sky).
I was one mile away.I was visiting from Santa Cruz. Went to Dwight and Nile. There was so much computer paper everywhere. You could see where a wing just touched the roof of a house and lawn, left a 10" gash, then ripped off. The plane landed on my friends bosses wife and child as they drove to school!
I was born and raised in San Diego, growing up in the east county. I was 23 at the time. The night before this horrific crash, I remember thinking to myself of how crystal clear and blue the sky was. It was also very quiet and still. The next day, while folding laundry, my nephew called out to me that a plane had crashed in San Diego. What a terrible, sad day. Thomas Womack Jr. was on that flight. He was the son of my 2nd grade teacher at Naranca Elementary (El Cajon). He was a teenager at the time and had come in to the classroom one evening as we students were preparing for a program (I cannot remember the program). Thomas joined in with all the students, playing and having gentle fun. I was too shy and stood off in the corner and watched. I remember thinking what a great guy he was, to play and have such fun with his mother's students. I wish I had joined in, but was smiling the whole time I watched. Reading the news articles about that crash, Thomas's father (the husband of my 2nd grade teacher) had rushed to the crash site, frantically calling out to be let through, exclaiming, "My son is on that flight." They would not let him through. Very, very sad. To those who perished on both planes that day: may your souls rest in sweet peace. To the family and friends of those who perished: I pray you were given the peace that surpasses all understanding at that time of grief, and over the many years that have passed since then.
I was pregnant with my second baby and I had just gotten up and was having coffee. I lived in North park and my building just went boom and the whole place shook . I went outside and the neighbor said she saw a plane going down !! I couldn’t believe it !! I will never forget this ! Only a couple of miles from me .
On December 16, 1960 my dad was returning to King Parks, Long Island, NY after a business trip to Seattle. His connection in O'hare was United flight 826. That flight crashed at 3400 feet over Brooklyn with a TWA plane. The United flight was 12 miles off course and bad weather was a big issue. All 134 were killed. The reason he missed his United flight in Chicago, according to him, was he was out late with other engineers from Boeing the night before, and when he got to the airport, he fell asleep in the terminal and missed the departure out of Seattle to Chicago. He took the next flight without calling and telling anyone. Meanwhile his father, who lived in Queens, called my mom that evening when he of the crash on the radio. My mom confirmed he was on flight 826. Meanwhile he lands 2 hours late in JFK and tries to call home but the phone is busy. He knows nothing of the crash. He takes the train home and walks into a house full of grieving relatives. He sees the parish priest and his exact works to me were, " his face turned white". My dad had no idea " what the hell is going on ".
@@ronthompson95 I never knew anything about this until 1985. I read about the mid air crash and asked if he remembered it. Geez. He had at least 6 or 7 close encounters with death that I know about and miraculously escaped them, and he was an engineer, not a cop or FF. He was one of those people in life who was liked by almost everyone and respected as well. People who used to work for him, and even their own kids, used to pop in to our house and seek his advice on stuff. Lawyers, firefighters, business owners. He was like George Kennedy, the actor on Cool Hand Luke. Everybody liked talking with him.
I was just starting my senior year in high school when this happened. For some reason I was standing outside the gym and happened to be looking in the direction of the accident when it happened. I knew when I saw it that something terribly bad had happened, but it wasn't until I saw the evening news that the full impact hit me. As others have said, I'll never forget that day. Can't imagine what those who witnessed the aftermath in person have had to deal with. Bless you all.
I live just a couple miles from an international airport and planes fly over my house several times a day. Not just from the local airport but I’m also under the flight path of planes heading to LAX and a couple other SoCal airports . The thought of one of those planes crashing in the neighborhood has come to mind before. Last year my city had a huge explosion that was so loud, I thought the day had come. Thankfully it didn’t but two lives were lost that day, I can’t imagine the tragedy of those who lived in this neighborhood and the families of those who were killed in this crash.
And it all came down to: 1. The pilots of the jet not adjusting their seat positions in accordance with company/aircraft procedure. They were supposed to adjust their seats until 3 balls above the instrument panel lined cup from theirs POV. This insured proper viability out of the windows. By not doing this they reduced the amount of times that the Cessna was visible from more than 5 mins to less than 10 seconds. 2. The Cessna was a trainee pilot with a trainer doing instrument flight training, the pilot was wearing a hood so he could only see the instruments. They had drifted off course during their session. Had they strayed in the proper area they would not have been near the PSA. 3. The tower at Lindbergh Airport had a state of the art "conflict warning system" that would warn the controllers of an impeding collision. The system was quite touchy and went off alot, too the point that controller ignores it. The system gave an alert about a minute before the collision but the controller ignored it.
I Lived in La Mesa and attended Parkway Jr. High. Was outside on the basketball courts sitting on our assigned spots for attendance. Coach Rose called my name as he walked by. I said here and looked at him. Behind him I saw the smoke appear in the sky and the plane go down. Will not forget that day, it was my 13th birthday.
The Cessna pilot was taking an IFR lesson and changed his heading from 70 to 90 degrees and never told the tower. Had he maintained 70, no accident. But 100% of the blame is to PSA? That is beyond me.
i know this because i was present when my friend found the old papers and, a few days after, she recalled that throughout her life she always had these faint memories of being deathly afraid every time a plane flew over when she was young but doesn't remember having them after starting kindergarten. she hated loud booms in the sky, the sounds of sirens and the sight of fire trucks and would run and hide under anything when any occurred... she never knew until she found these old medical recs in her father's belongings after he passed. there was a report for dec 11 1978 where her pediatrician noted my friend was "having significant fear-type reaction to sirens, planes, loud sounds for past 2 months. child was in balboa park and witnessed plane crash and emergency response." it also said my friend had shared that she was afraid plane would crash on her grandparents' home because she knew planes always flew over it. she was just a couple months over 3 at the time but it must have been such a disturbance to leave her with memories of the fear but not the event
My grandma told me that her Mom was standing at her front screen door when this happened. Apparently someone's body was thrown from the crash and landed at her front door. She said it felt like someone threw a bucket of warm water on her. She didn't know what happened until she looked down at herself, covered in blood, and then noticed the person on the ground. Horrifying
I was in Roosivelt Jr High in 78, and the explosion of 182 slammed the door shot during my orchestra class. Shortly after, there was an announcement saying a plane had crash, school would be let out early, and instructions for students from North Park to stay at the Performing Arts Theater until one of their parents picked them up. This was a mind-blowing event and, being judge-mentally impaired 13 year olds, my buddy and I decided we had to see the wreckage for ourselves. Without consideration for what actually happened, we peddled toward the smoke. By the time we'd arrived, all streets leading to the site were blocked off by police, but there were narrow back alleys that connected small parallel streets to Nile. We got close enough to see fire trucks but stopped for fear of getting caught. The smell of jet fuel was so heavy it felt like the whole place might go up in flames. The true weight of what we were seeing hadn't register until a breeze folded back a white cloth exposing the upper torso of a woman laying next to us. Reality came crashing in and all the air was sucked out of the world as I knew it. For me, the worst thing was biking back out knowing what all those sheets were covering. I hadn't noticed them before but now they were scattered everywhere I looked. It was like I was watching a Hitchcock movie where the graphic horror was left to the imagination, and my mind ran with it. I couldn't stop thinking that these were people just like me. Besides being in shock from what I'd seen, I remember not letting myself feel anthing but guilt and shame, because I had no right to be there. Turns out, self compassion was the path that finally got me out of that place. For everyone effected by this horrific disaster, I hope you've found your own way to peace.
I was living on Fairmont Ave just off of University . I was 18 and not doing much with my life. I was getting my day started when all of a sudden I felt what I thought was another so cal earthquake, it was the concussion of the explosion and if you know San Diego you know I was quite a few blocks away from the crash site. This was different, people screaming outside , sirens whaling headed towards hell. My sister was living about 8 blocks west of me and I thought the mushroom cloud from the impact was coming from her area...I ran my ass off towards the smoke only to realize the mushroom cloud was way beyond her street. She did not come out unscathed. That morning she was headed to work and was crossing the Freeway (405?) on that bridge ,a guy on a motorcycle coming the opposite direction was looking up and almost hit her (she can still recall the white as a ghost look on the guys face) she witnessed the plane hit the ground and the ensuing destruction and death from a "birds eye " view. She gave her testimony to the officials and has never spoken a word since then to anyone but me about that horrible day. I am 62 years old. I did not witness any of the horror, but I can recall that day to the "T"
I stood at Dwight and Nile less than an hour after the crash. I was less than a mile away at a friends house. I drove from San Diego to visit a friend. His boss was the service writer at the Ferrari Porsche dealer, his wife was driving their daughter to school. 182 crashed on it. There was no damage to the intersection. You can watch the video. I can still describe it in detail. Oddly the planes that hit the WTC tore a huge hole in the load bearing walls. Even the wing tips. You can watch the video. But 182 just shredded and the asphalt was ok. Even today
Those were drones and they were modified. Legal researcher Isaac Davidsson of Iceland wrote a book on it. He spent 7 years collecting the ATC recordings. There were no hijackers. The evidence is staggering.
@@TheHypnotstCollector Hijacking America's Mind on 9/11 - Counterfeiting Evidence. It was published in 2013 and is 315 pages. Staggering amount of factual data proves no hijackers. The exceedingly low passengers counts on the planes tell me the conspirators wanted as few on the planes as possible and bought up many of the tickets via ghost accounts. There is no way a major airline flies a 767 from East coast to West coast with a 17% passenger load. The expected, but phantom passengers never showed but had paid for the seats. Airline was likely expecting a plane 90% full. The book never addresses what happened to the planes. They were all flown over regions where the transponders were turned off, so they could not be track. My guess is they were flown over the ocean and hit with some high tech devices that turned them into dust, like the WTC towers. 9/11 was all about covering up massive financial crimes carried out by powerful leaders and CEO's. There are 2600 private offices in the Pentagon. The one office investigating the missing $2.3 trillion of Pentagon funds , where 53 accounts were working , is where the Pentagon was hit on 9/11. 42 of those accountants were killed and investigation was ended. Killing 3,000 persons in the WTC was just a business decision needed to be made, by the cabals, because otherwise there would be massive investigations sending many to prison.
What a terrible day it was I was working on 32nd st Navy Base and I could see the smoke from there and I just had this awful feeling for the people who lost their lives.
Well, Good luck Caring people of San Diego. I've lived in Las Vegas 15 yrs. While the gun massacre of just 4yrs ago well remembered and marked, an even deadlier tragedy seems Almost completely forgotten. A fire at hotel Now known as Ballys killed 87, on Nov. 21,1980. As 40th anniv approach last year, I was Shocked to see 3 out 4, or more of locals born After 1980, NEVER HEARD OF IT....--?!???!? HOW'S that possible, their parents, teachers Never told em? Cant figgerout Y this would be.. Out of frustration I bought a little $16 plaque with a note and gave it to Vegas'City dept. Office. As the firemen saved the lives of most Everyone in the tower above the fire floor. And held my own 1-man memory parade morning of 11/21/2020. Met the One employee still working who was also then. See the 10 min "Fascinating Horror" video on this incident. A good intro.
Your pain is understandable and respect for the victims admirable. Unfortunately, structure fires often don't receive their deserved publicity compared to major aviation accidents...
@@small_ed Thanks for the kind words there, small ed.... ok, Where d ya comeup with That name,haha? Every disaster had different effect on the ppl nearest it. Same yr as Mgm fire, me and basically Everyone in the Pacific NW alive in May 1980 witnessed an Enormous volcanic eruption that killed 57 and devastated 150 Sq.mi of forest. It's well remembered and marked. A Natl. Monument created around the volcano. Everybody there today knows something about it. Oh well, I'll keep telling the fire story here, see where that goes.
@@michaelgarwood7076 -The crash site in San Diego is noted with various remembrance ceremonies done there over the years. 2018 was 40 years and that was a large one.
@@maxsmith695 Thanx 4 info. In 2013 I spent a good afternoon learning all about the crash at the Lcl. Library. AND There was some kind of Memorial Placque nearby. I take it there's more now OR plans to make something Larger? If U visit us here in Vegas, the Community Healing Garden was built within afew days of Oct.1 massacre. Is Loc. Nr corner of Casino Ctr & Charleston. In our newly prosperous Arts district. Very beautiful and respectful to the victims. But I can't visit w.out shedding a tear, and I didn't know any of victims or have any connection to them.
as macabre as this sounds but i read that residents were still finding small body parts like extremities in hedges and in back yards months after the initial crash and main clear up of this event.
The blame for the crash is officially on the PSA crew, but the student in the Cessna was doing a IFR lesson and the lane had changed course from it planned route to a 70 degree heading from the planned 90 degree route, without notifying the tower. Why were they doing an IFR test lesson in such a busy traffic pattern?
That’s still blows me away. The crash happened because the Cessna flew off path. Shouldn’t even have been allowed in the vicinity. Blaming the PSA flight blows my mind. Really?
@@ronthompson95 There were two pilots in the cockpit and maybe a flight eningeer. The co pilot had seen the Cessna and called out his location a few times on the approach. What I have read is the pilot and copilot were also talking about non flying related issues on final and lost sight of the Cessna but why that flying instructor did not take evasive action, seems hard to figure out.
@@maxsmith695 yes, what you said I also just read about too. Well done. I didn’t like the fact that the pilot being trained wore that special hood so that you couldn’t have peripheral vision. That couldn’t have helped. My bottom line is the Cessna was at fault. Perhaps the people who allow a Cessna to fly near the airport where planes are landing. To me the last thing you should blame is a commercial airline pilot. Although, like you said they were talking about something else at the time and the rule is, they’re supposed to be specifically focusing on the Cessna. Just a perfect storm of badness all around.
Yes they do. The rules all changed after this one and Cerritos in '86. Airspace rules and equipment received HUGE upgrades and you don't see any more of this. I am a commercial pilot and started flying in the time right after these accidents and the rules are amazingly restrictive now.
I was playing outside when I remember seeing the smoke from my front yard,,,,, my 5grade classroom toured that same plane a few weeks Brit went down, my teachers husband was a pilot for the airline and set up a tour of the plane,, not even imagining that same plane would crash later on ,,,,): sad I have 8mm home movie footage of the tour inside the plane
Only yesterday a single engined aircraft with engine failure caused chaos at LAX flying through the approach for both runways in order to land. The U.S. needs to stop single engined aircraft flying in Class A airspace all together or you're not going to make this disaster the last.
Can you be anything more asinine then the concept that it was the responsibility of the PSA flight to say that you don’t see the Cessna so that the air traffic controllers can ensure they are separated? The pilot saw a plane cross to the right and said so. So he did report what he saw. The fact that that wasn’t the Cessna in question isn’t their fault.
I met the guy's son who flew that plane.. his son was on heroin older guy had a lot of problems I guess.. he told me his dad was the pilot of that plane and he always had nightmares of what happened and he thinks he hit a UFO
i lived 3 houses down from the corner of nile on dwight was at middle school in pe we ran home as the teacher ran and tried to stop us broke her ankle once we got to the crash site the smell of death homeless a holes looting body parts it was the most horrific thing ive ever wittnes in real life , but when i think of it now and see how that one moment effected people and how the same people are so traumitized it makes think of how people just like us in the middle east and all the places that we have 'purposely dropped bombs '',for no justified reason and its not just an tragic mis hap on a block one moment 40 years ago , it saddens me and its heart wrenching and angers me that were still paying to porposely slaughter entire cities millions of innocent lives taken ,for what ,does any one else think of those people if we did maybe we could of stopped it years ago i pray for them every day but i feel like im the only one , iust found a pres candidate who will finally end these wars her name is tulsi gabard its time to see the reality of wars and devistating high cost the blood on our hands
I lived in PB in 96' I worked at a coffee shop called "Cafe Zanzibar." I became friends with a patron who was an EMT that was on call that morning. He told me how he had never seen such devastation like he saw that morning. He also told me about the looting of people's luggage by the "hood rats" so he called them. He said that he saw a guy going through a ripped up pair of pants with a naked legless head and armless torso about 10 feet away from where this guy was looting. Not even an ounce of thought of "if" that torso was the one that this guy was looting from. He said that he still had nightmares from that day.
@@deanarupe73 it was like a war zone something i think about every time our troops are forced to go do to people over seas i feel so bad for the people we are bombing on purpose ,and think,well , i cant think of any reason on this planet to justify bombing men woman and children who never did anything to us , it is those memories of that fatal accident in north park that allows me to see the reality of the wars we rage all over the world and we have to stop the war machine , and how damaged our veterans must be unnecessarily they dont even know why , i know if TULSI GABBA had a fair chance and real true functioning election process and was commander in chief she would turn us around to where we should be and make this country one to be respected and a beacon of light for the world , she would be the only one ,in history this far who has the best interest of Americans first and people and planet im spreading her name every where people should check her out on line cause the war machine media is totally blocking her out she is the black sheep/rebel of the establishment TULSI2020 , so we can have no more blood on our hands in the name of american demacracy
So ignore the fact that with our blood and sacrifice of young men we already have saved the world twice in World Wars. No, no nation is perfect but what country, in your opinion, is a brighter beacon of light then the U.S.-Venezuela, Iran, China?
@@TRKEWEENAW thats really not the honest take on what we ,our govt ,foriegn policy makers , and corperate military ind complex , thats what weve been told but its an illusion we have attacked countries that have never harmed us innocent people , millions of them and that is recorded facts,in the past 5 decades alone , wars we/they had to us in to, forced our young people who thought it was the right thing to do but comming home broken maimed or in coffins , and asking why , now carried on to trump were antagonizing russia china seria venizuella and who knows else ,threatening them for what were in their borders threatening sanctioning during a pandemic, which is another big lie just so a few sociopathic devil worshiping elites can take over the world ,how does that make america /israel stand out as a beacon of light , we the people are the ones who will take the fall for their crimes against humanity , we need to find the truth cause there can be no solutions when every things a lie , and we need to unite , but i cant see that happening until we face the reality and truth of whats going on
@@TRKEWEENAW our troops are coming home broken,maimed or in coffins or left with the nightmares that wont go away , never knowing why just knowing it was all for a lie of a few sociopaths who want to take over the world , and feel that the rest of humanity only purpose is to serve them , were being lied to now ,there is no just war .there can be no solutions if every things a lie , we need to search for the truth and face it and come together so we can really become the beacon of light bring humanity together for peace and a healthy planet and free and equal society and a brighter secure future for our children
This crash happened at 9am. They had previously departed from Sacramento and then LA with no incidents that same morning. I find it hard to believe that the crew was up partying all night, and 5am is impossible: they would still have been drunk while taking off from Sacramento. Sorry but I call BS.
For people with "PTSD" they sure did collect and keep a lot of memorabilia, newspapers and pictures. Either they're lying or it was made up by the news team to jazz up a story that doesn't need any extra jazzing.
I witnessed this crash myself. It was two days before I graduated from Navy boot camp, which was just west of MCRD and the airport. I was on the bow of the "USS Recruit", which is a fake ship in a parking lot. Saw the midair collision and both aircraft going down. I was not quite 18 years old at the time. Still can picture it in my mind like it was yesterday...RIP
I can't even imagine how terrible that must have felt the moment you saw that. Maybe there was some hope that the airliner was going to make it, but I'm sure the closer and closer I got to the ground there was less and less hope. And then when the plane impacted the ground, I also can't imagine what might have gone through your head, knowing that potentially hundreds of people just died in the blink of an eye. This is just such a tragic and preventable disaster.
The pilot's final words to ATC were "this is it, baby!", and the final words spoken in the cockpit were "ma, I love you". Nobody should ever have to be in that position, witnessing their death rushing towards them, knowing that more than 100 others would be joining them, and knowing that they were partially responsible for that situation and absolutely powerless to stop it.
@@R2Bl3nd it was definitely the most horrific event I'd witnessed in my 18 years on the planet at that time. I'd never flown on a commercial airline before and two days later I had to fly from LAX to BOS and then a connecting flight to New London CT for sub school...Greyhound or Continental Trailways was looking like a good option, but I didn't have time...military orders said I had to be there sooner than the time a bus would have taken...
My dad said he saw this from the flight deck of the Kitty Hawk.
I went to bootcamp in San Diego back in Sept 1993. I remember the USS Recruit. We would go and use the phones inside of the ship every once in a while to call back home. I remember marching several times past the ship as well.
First, thanks for your service. I grew up in Mission Hills San Diego during the 60s-80s. Our house was overlooking the airport, MCRD, and the Naval Training Center. I had a paper route there as a kid, and could hear revery being played when folding papers in the morning. I went to Jr high in North Park, near to where 182 came down. Like a stupid curious kid, I road my bike very close to the crash site with a friend, shortly after it 'd happened. Beyond the shadow of doubt the biggest mistake I've ever made. To this day, the smell of jet fuel makes me sick.
That terrible photograph of 182 in its final seconds is iconic.
Not just in the USA.
God Bless all who were lost in this tragic accident, and those still affected by it Today.
Best Wishes from England.
Its one of the most haunting pictures ever taken in my opinion. All those people in there, no way out no way to change whats coming. It makes you think about the horror each person was feeling at that second, and the smoke trail in the blue sky, horrible.
Gazza 29 I was born and raised in San Diego and remember it well , my father was at a gas station a couple of blocks away . He went right to the blood bank to give in case it was needed , turns out all died ! Thanks for the comment all the way from our mother country !!
@@davidca96 When I saw the picture the next day it was like a streak of fire going up my spine. Never saw something like that before and haven't since (at least not an in flight pic like that except for 9/11)
@@davidca96 Yes that photo won an award and was on the cover of life magazine yes very haunting for sure.
Nightmare...that poor guys grandma...makes me feel sick
RIP Don Ashcroft and Mary Beard, the coworkers in Sacramento that I never got to meet. But your coworkers at FHWA made sure I knew your stories when I took over your job, Mary. I knew I had big shoes to fill.
I worked as a ramp agent with National an then Pam Am. This was at Lindbergh of which the flight was to land. The fire burned into smoke into late evening. My memory the next day was being at the Terminal seeing beautiful PSA Flight Attendant ladies crying and comforting each other with hugs while they huddled together in the terminal. They had learned that a group of Flight Attendants they knew were on that incoming flight.
They lost their close friends. I felt their sorrow as I stood near by. I wanted to go to them and cry with them.
God rest the souls of those who died in the crash. 😢😢😢
My brother is a police officer and just the other night he was telling my husband and I the same thing the officer said in this video. He said he can still see the bad things he’s seen over the years, smell the smells, see the horrible car wrecks, see the gun shot victims. He said even years later you can go by the places where bad things happened and still remember it all so vivid and still feels the emotions.He said he’s seen things that no person should ever see.
I knew the first San Diego police officer on scene that day. Cops seem to come in two varieties. Either they are open to talking about police work or not. He was the former. He told me things that he said the media never learned, wrote about, or filmed and saw that as a good thing. I don't know the relationship of the police and media in 1978, but police in general are not fond of the media.
@@maxsmith695 Luckily we live in the country and a very small town, maybe 1, 200 people. Mainly the police only had to talk to the local newspaper which my brother wouldn’t do. They’d have to interview another officer. They did have a couple of officers that would be the only ones that would talk to the news stations. He’s not fond of media to say the least.
He only talked to me, my husband and son one night when my 20 yr old son had told him he wanted to be a police officer. My brother said absolutely not would he let his beloved only nephew be a police officer. Other than our Father, my brother wouldn’t talk to anyone about his work. He never wanted to worry Mother or me. Sometimes he would tell us something that had happened cause he knew we’d hear about it but he always down played it for Mother and After years and years of being a police officer my brother is now retired after loosing eye sight in one eye and bad eye sight in the other eye due to an inherited eye disease.
It was horrendous. We were stationed in San Diego at the time and the impact of the plane hitting the ground and exploding knocked me off my sofa on the other side of the highway. It's not something you forget.
Apparently the impact was so violent that the shockwave, literally the sound of it, was enough to immediately end the lives of all on board. A merciful end to what must have been an absolutely terrifying half minute or so from impact to collision.
@@R2Bl3nd - From a police office who was first on scene, that i knew and talked to, there was at least one survivor. Not sure how long the person lived. No need to say more.
"This is it baby"
One of the last words of the pilot.😥
"Ma I love you!"
@@93seronica how’s the damage, it’s bad
@@sandeepvm1572 I wonder what his words would have been if had he not been sleep-deprived and hungover as reported by a passenger witness who wisely left the flight in Los Angeles. Probably not applicable, but that would have just been kicking the can down the road (or sky).
Ma.. I love you
May all the souls of the victims be resting in peace. They will never be forgotten.
I was one mile away.I was visiting from Santa Cruz. Went to Dwight and Nile. There was so much computer paper everywhere. You could see where a wing just touched the roof of a house and lawn, left a 10" gash, then ripped off. The plane landed on my friends bosses wife and child as they drove to school!
I was born and raised in San Diego, growing up in the east county. I was 23 at the time. The night before this horrific crash, I remember thinking to myself of how crystal clear and blue the sky was. It was also very quiet and still. The next day, while folding laundry, my nephew called out to me that a plane had crashed in San Diego. What a terrible, sad day.
Thomas Womack Jr. was on that flight. He was the son of my 2nd grade teacher at Naranca Elementary (El Cajon). He was a teenager at the time and had come in to the classroom one evening as we students were preparing for a program (I cannot remember the program). Thomas joined in with all the students, playing and having gentle fun. I was too shy and stood off in the corner and watched. I remember thinking what a great guy he was, to play and have such fun with his mother's students. I wish I had joined in, but was smiling the whole time I watched.
Reading the news articles about that crash, Thomas's father (the husband of my 2nd grade teacher) had rushed to the crash site, frantically calling out to be let through, exclaiming, "My son is on that flight." They would not let him through. Very, very sad.
To those who perished on both planes that day: may your souls rest in sweet peace.
To the family and friends of those who perished: I pray you were given the peace that surpasses all understanding at that time of grief, and over the many years that have passed since then.
so tragic my absolute condolences to all the families and to all those who tragically lost their lives that day im sadden to see such a tragedy
I was pregnant with my second baby and I had just gotten up and was having coffee. I lived in North park and my building just went boom and the whole place shook . I went outside and the neighbor said she saw a plane going down !! I couldn’t believe it !! I will never forget this ! Only a couple of miles from me .
I was an eyewitness too, never remembered it till this video came up
I've lived this over n over. I've gone under the radar for so long. Help
You ok buddy? Message me if you need to talk and vent.
Sorry....God bless. May you find some peace 👏👏👏
Geez. This grabbed my throat. I hope this guy, Ray, is ok.
On December 16, 1960 my dad was returning to King Parks, Long Island, NY after a business trip to Seattle. His connection in O'hare was United flight 826. That flight crashed at 3400 feet over Brooklyn with a TWA plane.
The United flight was 12 miles off course and bad weather was a big issue.
All 134 were killed.
The reason he missed his United flight in Chicago, according to him, was he was out late with other engineers from Boeing the night before, and when he got to the airport, he fell asleep in the terminal and missed the departure out of Seattle to Chicago.
He took the next flight without calling and telling anyone.
Meanwhile his father, who lived in Queens, called my mom that evening when he of the crash on the radio. My mom confirmed he was on flight 826.
Meanwhile he lands 2 hours late in JFK and tries to call home but the phone is busy. He knows nothing of the crash.
He takes the train home and walks into a house full of grieving relatives. He sees the parish priest and his exact works to me were, " his face turned white". My dad had no idea " what the hell is going on ".
Wow. Crazy
@@ronthompson95 I never knew anything about this until 1985. I read about the mid air crash and asked if he remembered it. Geez. He had at least 6 or 7 close encounters with death that I know about and miraculously escaped them, and he was an engineer, not a cop or FF. He was one of those people in life who was liked by almost everyone and respected as well. People who used to work for him, and even their own kids, used to pop in to our house and seek his advice on stuff. Lawyers, firefighters, business owners. He was like George Kennedy, the actor on Cool Hand Luke. Everybody liked talking with him.
I can’t believe that kind of horror, so sorry for everybody involved 🥺.
Understandably unforgettable.
I think the "worst day in San Diego history" was the McDonalds mass shooting 6 years later.
On Amazon prime there is a good documentary about that and footage shown inside the aftermath its called (77 minutes).
Two horrible events for sure!
Both horrible events for sure, but in terms of lives lost and people affected, this was much worse...
@xx oo Hope you enjoyed it and it informed you more of what happened that morning.
Both were horrible events with many lives lost
I was just starting my senior year in high school when this happened. For some reason I was standing outside the gym and happened to be looking in the direction of the accident when it happened. I knew when I saw it that something terribly bad had happened, but it wasn't until I saw the evening news that the full impact hit me. As others have said, I'll never forget that day. Can't imagine what those who witnessed the aftermath in person have had to deal with. Bless you all.
Those photos need to be uploaded on internet.
That what I was thinking as I was watching
I live just a couple miles from an international airport and planes fly over my house several times a day. Not just from the local airport but I’m also under the flight path of planes heading to LAX and a couple other SoCal airports . The thought of one of those planes crashing in the neighborhood has come to mind before. Last year my city had a huge explosion that was so loud, I thought the day had come. Thankfully it didn’t but two lives were lost that day, I can’t imagine the tragedy of those who lived in this neighborhood and the families of those who were killed in this crash.
A man was driving his car in the neighborhood and a woman’s torso from the plane crashed into his car. How insane.
My father was in a gas station on Texas street when it happened !! ( a couple of blocks away )
And it all came down to:
1. The pilots of the jet not adjusting their seat positions in accordance with company/aircraft procedure. They were supposed to adjust their seats until 3 balls above the instrument panel lined cup from theirs POV. This insured proper viability out of the windows.
By not doing this they reduced the amount of times that the Cessna was visible from more than 5 mins to less than 10 seconds.
2. The Cessna was a trainee pilot with a trainer doing instrument flight training, the pilot was wearing a hood so he could only see the instruments. They had drifted off course during their session. Had they strayed in the proper area they would not have been near the PSA.
3. The tower at Lindbergh Airport had a state of the art "conflict warning system" that would warn the controllers of an impeding collision. The system was quite touchy and went off alot, too the point that controller ignores it.
The system gave an alert about a minute before the collision but the controller ignored it.
Thank you for the information, sir. That is very interesting.
@@CarlJay-ry8mr YW
41 years today
I Lived in La Mesa and attended Parkway Jr. High. Was outside on the basketball courts sitting on our assigned spots for attendance. Coach Rose called my name as he walked by. I said here and looked at him. Behind him I saw the smoke appear in the sky and the plane go down. Will not forget that day, it was my 13th birthday.
Why isnt there a spot there for them to morn ????
40 years later
N still nothing there in that spot
WHY ????😢😢😢😢😢😮
Small private aircraft should never fly with commercial
The Cessna pilot was taking an IFR lesson and changed his heading from 70 to 90 degrees and never told the tower. Had he maintained 70, no accident. But 100% of the blame is to PSA? That is beyond me.
i know this because i was present when my friend found the old papers and, a few days after, she recalled that throughout her life she always had these faint memories of being deathly afraid every time a plane flew over when she was young but doesn't remember having them after starting kindergarten. she hated loud booms in the sky, the sounds of sirens and the sight of fire trucks and would run and hide under anything when any occurred... she never knew until she found these old medical recs in her father's belongings after he passed. there was a report for dec 11 1978 where her pediatrician noted my friend was "having significant fear-type reaction to sirens, planes, loud sounds for past 2 months. child was in balboa park and witnessed plane crash and emergency response." it also said my friend had shared that she was afraid plane would crash on her grandparents' home because she knew planes always flew over it. she was just a couple months over 3 at the time but it must have been such a disturbance to leave her with memories of the fear but not the event
I was 7 when it happened living off Home ave. I remember hearing a loud BOOM then seeing the smoke cloud . RIP to all people that day.
My grandma told me that her Mom was standing at her front screen door when this happened. Apparently someone's body was thrown from the crash and landed at her front door. She said it felt like someone threw a bucket of warm water on her. She didn't know what happened until she looked down at herself, covered in blood, and then noticed the person on the ground. Horrifying
I was in Roosivelt Jr High in 78, and the explosion of 182 slammed the door shot during my orchestra class. Shortly after, there was an announcement saying a plane had crash, school would be let out early, and instructions for students from North Park to stay at the Performing Arts Theater until one of their parents picked them up. This was a mind-blowing event and, being judge-mentally impaired 13 year olds, my buddy and I decided we had to see the wreckage for ourselves. Without consideration for what actually happened, we peddled toward the smoke. By the time we'd arrived, all streets leading to the site were blocked off by police, but there were narrow back alleys that connected small parallel streets to Nile. We got close enough to see fire trucks but stopped for fear of getting caught. The smell of jet fuel was so heavy it felt like the whole place might go up in flames. The true weight of what we were seeing hadn't register until a breeze folded back a white cloth exposing the upper torso of a woman laying next to us. Reality came crashing in and all the air was sucked out of the world as I knew it. For me, the worst thing was biking back out knowing what all those sheets were covering. I hadn't noticed them before but now they were scattered everywhere I looked. It was like I was watching a Hitchcock movie where the graphic horror was left to the imagination, and my mind ran with it. I couldn't stop thinking that these were people just like me. Besides being in shock from what I'd seen, I remember not letting myself feel anthing but guilt and shame, because I had no right to be there. Turns out, self compassion was the path that finally got me out of that place. For everyone effected by this horrific disaster, I hope you've found your own way to peace.
I was living on Fairmont Ave just off of University . I was 18 and not doing much with my life. I was getting my day started when all of a sudden I felt what I thought was another so cal earthquake, it was the concussion of the explosion and if you know San Diego you know I was quite a few blocks away from the crash site. This was different, people screaming outside , sirens whaling headed towards hell. My sister was living about 8 blocks west of me and I thought the mushroom cloud from the impact was coming from her area...I ran my ass off towards the smoke only to realize the mushroom cloud was way beyond her street.
She did not come out unscathed. That morning she was headed to work and was crossing the Freeway (405?) on that bridge ,a guy on a motorcycle coming the opposite direction was looking up and almost hit her (she can still recall the white as a ghost look on the guys face) she witnessed the plane hit the ground and the ensuing destruction and death from a "birds eye " view. She gave her testimony to the officials and has never spoken a word since then to anyone but me about that horrible day. I am 62 years old. I did not witness any of the horror, but I can recall that day to the "T"
I was in P.E. class that day at Roosevelt Jr high I remember that day we heard the impact
I stood at Dwight and Nile less than an hour after the crash. I was less than a mile away at a friends house. I drove from San Diego to visit a friend. His boss was the service writer at the Ferrari Porsche dealer, his wife was driving their daughter to school. 182 crashed on it. There was no damage to the intersection. You can watch the video. I can still describe it in detail. Oddly the planes that hit the WTC tore a huge hole in the load bearing walls. Even the wing tips. You can watch the video. But 182 just shredded and the asphalt was ok. Even today
Those were drones and they were modified. Legal researcher Isaac Davidsson of Iceland wrote a book on it. He spent 7 years collecting the ATC recordings. There were no hijackers. The evidence is staggering.
@@maxsmith695 I agree the WTC planes were remote control.
@@TheHypnotstCollector Hijacking America's Mind on 9/11 - Counterfeiting Evidence. It was published in 2013 and is 315 pages. Staggering amount of factual data proves no hijackers. The exceedingly low passengers counts on the planes tell me the conspirators wanted as few on the planes as possible and bought up many of the tickets via ghost accounts. There is no way a major airline flies a 767 from East coast to West coast with a 17% passenger load. The expected, but phantom passengers never showed but had paid for the seats. Airline was likely expecting a plane 90% full.
The book never addresses what happened to the planes. They were all flown over regions where the transponders were turned off, so they could not be track. My guess is they were flown over the ocean and hit with some high tech devices that turned them into dust, like the WTC towers. 9/11 was all about covering up massive financial crimes carried out by powerful leaders and CEO's. There are 2600 private offices in the Pentagon. The one office investigating the missing $2.3 trillion of Pentagon funds , where 53 accounts were working , is where the Pentagon was hit on 9/11. 42 of those accountants were killed and investigation was ended. Killing 3,000 persons in the WTC was just a business decision needed to be made, by the cabals, because otherwise there would be massive investigations sending many to prison.
@@maxsmith695 LOL Conspiracy nutjobs are everywhere, even in RUclips comments.
It's all about angle of attack and momentum
They did not find any parts of my dads friend
unfortunately some people are vaporized during the explosion if they were seated over the fuel tanks.
@@jonyjoe8464 Carbon sublimes (vaporizes) at 6588F...the combustion of kerosene cannot attain such a temperature.
Sorry for your loss.
RIP❤❤💔🌷⚘😔
What a terrible day it was I was working on 32nd st Navy Base and I could see the smoke from there and I just had this awful feeling for the people who lost their lives.
Well, Good luck Caring people of San Diego. I've lived in Las Vegas 15 yrs. While the gun massacre of just 4yrs ago well remembered and marked, an even deadlier tragedy seems Almost completely forgotten. A fire at hotel Now known as Ballys killed 87, on Nov. 21,1980. As 40th anniv approach last year, I was Shocked to see 3 out 4, or more of locals born After 1980, NEVER HEARD OF IT....--?!???!? HOW'S that possible, their parents, teachers Never told em? Cant figgerout Y this would be.. Out of frustration I bought a little $16 plaque with a note and gave it to Vegas'City dept. Office. As the firemen saved the lives of most Everyone in the tower above the fire floor. And held my own 1-man memory parade morning of 11/21/2020. Met the One employee still working who was also then. See the 10 min "Fascinating Horror" video on this incident. A good intro.
Your pain is understandable and respect for the victims admirable. Unfortunately, structure fires often don't receive their deserved publicity compared to major aviation accidents...
@@small_ed Thanks for the kind words there, small ed.... ok, Where d ya comeup with That name,haha? Every disaster had different effect on the ppl nearest it. Same yr as Mgm fire, me and basically Everyone in the Pacific NW alive in May 1980 witnessed an Enormous volcanic eruption that killed 57 and devastated 150 Sq.mi of forest. It's well remembered and marked. A Natl. Monument created around the volcano. Everybody there today knows something about it. Oh well, I'll keep telling the fire story here, see where that goes.
@@michaelgarwood7076 -The crash site in San Diego is noted with various remembrance ceremonies done there over the years. 2018 was 40 years and that was a large one.
@@maxsmith695 Thanx 4 info. In 2013 I spent a good afternoon learning all about the crash at the Lcl. Library. AND There was some kind of Memorial Placque nearby. I take it there's more now OR plans to make something Larger? If U visit us here in Vegas, the Community Healing Garden was built within afew days of Oct.1 massacre. Is Loc. Nr corner of Casino Ctr & Charleston. In our newly prosperous Arts district. Very beautiful and respectful to the victims. But I can't visit w.out shedding a tear, and I didn't know any of victims or have any connection to them.
I’ve been to Dwight and Nile.
So have I.
Me too. About 5 days after the crash.
as macabre as this sounds but i read that residents were still finding small body parts like extremities in hedges and in back yards months after the initial crash and main clear up of this event.
"Tower, PSA, we've lost sight on that Cessna," might have prevented the tragedy.
The blame for the crash is officially on the PSA crew, but the student in the Cessna was doing a IFR lesson and the lane had changed course from it planned route to a 70 degree heading from the planned 90 degree route, without notifying the tower.
Why were they doing an IFR test lesson in such a busy traffic pattern?
That’s still blows me away. The crash happened because the Cessna flew off path. Shouldn’t even have been allowed in the vicinity. Blaming the PSA flight blows my mind. Really?
@@ronthompson95 There were two pilots in the cockpit and maybe a flight eningeer. The co pilot had seen the Cessna and called out his location a few times on the approach. What I have read is the pilot and copilot were also talking about non flying related issues on final and lost sight of the Cessna but why that flying instructor did not take evasive action, seems hard to figure out.
@@maxsmith695 yes, what you said I also just read about too. Well done. I didn’t like the fact that the pilot being trained wore that special hood so that you couldn’t have peripheral vision. That couldn’t have helped. My bottom line is the Cessna was at fault. Perhaps the people who allow a Cessna to fly near the airport where planes are landing. To me the last thing you should blame is a commercial airline pilot. Although, like you said they were talking about something else at the time and the rule is, they’re supposed to be specifically focusing on the Cessna. Just a perfect storm of badness all around.
A Piper has no business landing where jumbo's land.
They haven't since.
Yes they do. The rules all changed after this one and Cerritos in '86. Airspace rules and equipment received HUGE upgrades and you don't see any more of this. I am a commercial pilot and started flying in the time right after these accidents and the rules are amazingly restrictive now.
It was a Cessna, flown by two very experienced pilots. There was some blame for this on all sides, but primarily with the 727's crew.
It was not a Piper, it was a Cessna.
@RGos Like I said: "there was some blame on all sides." This includes the Cessna and the tower as well.
I was playing outside when I remember seeing the smoke from my front yard,,,,, my 5grade classroom toured that same plane a few weeks Brit went down, my teachers husband was a pilot for the airline and set up a tour of the plane,, not even imagining that same plane would crash later on ,,,,): sad I have 8mm home movie footage of the tour inside the plane
I remember this day i was in P.E. class at Roosevelt jr high school we heard the impact
I was in high school I remember this
It hit less than 400 yards from where I was having lunch
Rest In Peace 🙏
Is the past, it happened. N may all those in plane rest in peace. Let it go.
Only yesterday a single engined aircraft with engine failure caused chaos at LAX flying through the approach for both runways in order to land. The U.S. needs to stop single engined aircraft flying in Class A airspace all together or you're not going to make this disaster the last.
45 years now
Jared Aaron's used to be on KGAN here in Cedar Rapids years ago.
Can you be anything more asinine then the concept that it was the responsibility of the PSA flight to say that you don’t see the Cessna so that the air traffic controllers can ensure they are separated? The pilot saw a plane cross to the right and said so. So he did report what he saw. The fact that that wasn’t the Cessna in question isn’t their fault.
I met the guy's son who flew that plane.. his son was on heroin older guy had a lot of problems I guess.. he told me his dad was the pilot of that plane and he always had nightmares of what happened and he thinks he hit a UFO
i lived 3 houses down from the corner of nile on dwight was at middle school in pe we ran home as the teacher ran and tried to stop us broke her ankle once we got to the crash site the smell of death homeless a holes looting body parts it was the most horrific thing ive ever wittnes in real life , but when i think of it now and see how that one moment effected people and how the same people are so traumitized it makes think of how people just like us in the middle east and all the places that we have 'purposely dropped bombs '',for no justified reason and its not just an tragic mis hap on a block one moment 40 years ago , it saddens me and its heart wrenching and angers me that were still paying to porposely slaughter entire cities millions of innocent lives taken ,for what ,does any one else think of those people if we did maybe we could of stopped it years ago i pray for them every day but i feel like im the only one , iust found a pres candidate who will finally end these wars her name is tulsi gabard its time to see the reality of wars and devistating high cost the blood on our hands
I lived in PB in 96' I worked at a coffee shop called "Cafe Zanzibar."
I became friends with a patron who was an EMT that was on call that morning. He told me how he had never seen such devastation like he saw that morning. He also told me about the looting of people's luggage by the "hood rats" so he called them. He said that he saw a guy going through a ripped up pair of pants with a naked legless head and armless torso about 10 feet away from where this guy was looting. Not even an ounce of thought of "if" that torso was the one that this guy was looting from. He said that he still had nightmares from that day.
@@deanarupe73 it was like a war zone something i think about every time our troops are forced to go do to people over seas i feel so bad for the people we are bombing on purpose ,and think,well , i cant think of any reason on this planet to justify bombing men woman and children who never did anything to us , it is those memories of that fatal accident in north park that allows me to see the reality of the wars we rage all over the world and we have to stop the war machine , and how damaged our veterans must be unnecessarily they dont even know why , i know if TULSI GABBA had a fair chance and real true functioning election process and was commander in chief she would turn us around to where we should be and make this country one to be respected and a beacon of light for the world , she would be the only one ,in history this far who has the best interest of Americans first and people and planet im spreading her name every where people should check her out on line cause the war machine media is totally blocking her out she is the black sheep/rebel of the establishment TULSI2020 , so we can have no more blood on our hands in the name of american demacracy
So ignore the fact that with our blood and sacrifice of young men we already have saved the world twice in World Wars. No, no nation is perfect but what country, in your opinion, is a brighter beacon of light then the U.S.-Venezuela, Iran, China?
@@TRKEWEENAW thats really not the honest take on what we ,our govt ,foriegn policy makers , and corperate military ind complex , thats what weve been told but its an illusion we have attacked countries that have never harmed us innocent people , millions of them and that is recorded facts,in the past 5 decades alone , wars we/they had to us in to, forced our young people who thought it was the right thing to do but comming home broken maimed or in coffins , and asking why , now carried on to trump were antagonizing russia china seria venizuella and who knows else ,threatening them for what were in their borders threatening sanctioning during a pandemic, which is another big lie just so a few sociopathic devil worshiping elites can take over the world ,how does that make america /israel stand out as a beacon of light , we the people are the ones who will take the fall for their crimes against humanity , we need to find the truth cause there can be no solutions when every things a lie , and we need to unite , but i cant see that happening until we face the reality and truth of whats going on
@@TRKEWEENAW our troops are coming home broken,maimed or in coffins or left with the nightmares that wont go away , never knowing why just knowing it was all for a lie of a few sociopaths who want to take over the world , and feel that the rest of humanity only purpose is to serve them , were being lied to now ,there is no just war .there can be no solutions if every things a lie , we need to search for the truth and face it and come together so we can really become the beacon of light bring humanity together for peace and a healthy planet and free and equal society and a brighter secure future for our children
I REMEMBER THAT DAY I WAS ON THE 727 I WAS ABLE TO WALK AWAY WITH CUTS
Maybe but it left you retarded and a moron
1:10 imagine you are sitting on the seat next to the right wing . . .
Wish the fact that the flight crew was hungover and up partying until 5am had been made widely public.
This crash happened at 9am. They had previously departed from Sacramento and then LA with no incidents that same morning. I find it hard to believe that the crew was up partying all night, and 5am is impossible: they would still have been drunk while taking off from Sacramento. Sorry but I call BS.
@@ZC.Andrew I also never heard or nothing was ever said about the crew partying.
@@muffs55mercury61 Yeah me neither haha.
How did you find this out?
that is plausible, this was in the 1970's, they didnt have many regulations back then.
donnie darko shid
For people with "PTSD" they sure did collect and keep a lot of memorabilia, newspapers and pictures. Either they're lying or it was made up by the news team to jazz up a story that doesn't need any extra jazzing.
Let it go. Move on.