The letters between John and Abigail Adams are some of the finest and most readable correspondence between two people. A truly great couple of extraordinary talents both of them.
One of my favorite movies. One of the most endearing love songs ever. John Adams was one of our greatest forefathers. He tried so hard to make this republic and he succeeded. That will be his everlasting memory to our sovereign nation. His love of his wife transcends time and space.
I knew I was going to cry when they started. This is one of the most beautiful love songs ever. It's about the deep real love I always thought I'd find..
Forget not all the personal sacrifices made for freedom! Love and devotion as well as remaining faithful despite very long absences from each other. What love!
@@mca1218 Sad to relate, he wasn't. Remember, he was in a Musical. Musical ad comedies are the genres the Oscars usually has the biggest problem with. Even worse,it was a little politically incorrect in those days.
One of the things I like so much about this song is that without being overt, it's VERY sexy. If you listen closely to the lyrics, John's saying, in so many words, "I'm going to come home and nail you"! Also notice that during the song, they never touch--showing that although they can imagine themselves together, it won't be quite enough until they're actually together again. I'd recommend the notes that Stone and Edwards wrote for the published script. They shed a lot of light on the accuracy of this show (and, when needed, the liberties they took and the educated guesses they made in order to make it work onstage). Many of John and Abigail's lines (in this song and throughout) were taken directly or paraphrased from their letters.
My fiancée and I watched this movie some months back. Our engagement is sadly at a distance as we live on opposite ends of the country for the time being, but we talk as often as we can. "Ditto ditto,' yours yours yours," and "salt peter" have become in-jokes of ours.
My husband and I were long distance before we got married. It can work out, although it was certainly harder than a non LD. This song always reminded me of him whenever we'd have to part.
Such a beautiful, emotional song! I believe the lyrics were taken from (if not inspired by) John and Abigail's letters to each other, which I think makes it all the more meaningful.
Till then, till then, I am as I ever have and ever shall be, yours, yours, yours, yours, yours... a most treasured and favorite complimentary close to letters I write of a particular type... love this broadway play/movie/soundtrack on CD...
As a composer, I just love how the musical material from 2:22 to 2:56 is used so effectively for both their voices with lyrics that reflect each character so well. The way the orchestra soars along with Abigail’s voice with the strings predominant, painting the poetry that makes the song so memorable while John’s response is quiet, understated and vulnerable with more prominent woodwind texture that seems to say “this is is the unvarnished and plaintive way I try to say I love you.” Beautiful, simple and succinct, yet evocative storytelling. One of the most emotional moments in the whole musical, alongside “Is anybody there? Does anybody care?” for one. I’m not sure I’ve ever watched the musical without shedding tears at those numbers.
Interesting thing to note, the letter about Abigail’s faults was actually written in 1764, and in response to a letter that Abigail had written about HIS faults.
I hope my future husband will love this film as I do. I want us to have a private joke of "Saltpeter, Pins" as a code for "I love you." And of course I'll say "Till then, I am as I ever was and ever shall be, yours." Whether I sing it or say it, whether it is a duet or a solo, something I occasionally say or what we say at each parting, I simply hope that I'll truly mean it. And that he'll know I do.
Adams and Jefferson. Did not agree on many things. They did not talk for years but in time they did and send letters to each other in those letters we know the truth. About those two men
I hate how they cut out John saying pins in the end but other than that I love it Dash that’s one issue that I have with the VHS copies is that it always cut off him saying pins at the end when she says saltpeter
I’m not sure about the other cuts but for what it’s worth, the one I bought on Amazon Prims streaming this month had that part in. If that version is the extended cut, then that’s a welcome bonus.
A common trope amongst your comments seem to be the constitution, sir, the constitution was written in 1787, the film takes place in 1776. You could argue that the constitution was written by multiple men however its main writer was indeed James Madison. But this would still be unrelated to the film and quite out of place to say here because the constitution was written 11 years later on September 17th, could you possibly be clearer on which document you're referring to? The declaration of independence(because it's a movie about the declaration of independence) or the constitution (I dont know where tf you got the constitution did ya pull it out of your arse?).
No the constitution was written by more than just one man. Then Jefferson put it together wrote everything. From different parts that were done he took the credit for the constitution
@@WilliamRAguilar he only wrote parts of our constitution but he given full credit because john adams was not like It was john Hancock idea to give. The full credit to Jefferson There were a group of four people who wrote the constitution John Adams wrote more than 50 percent of it It is a known fact John Adams did not want the credit for the constitution the play 1776 does not tell everything but does tell you a group of four men got together to write the constitution
@@WilliamRAguilar Jefferson took parts of the constitution that was written by a group of four men Put everything together He forced to take the full credit by john Hancock. Jefferson was against parts of the constitution from the beginning
The natonal archives have the letters between two men Jefferson Adams. You can get copys of these letters. The constitution was written by more than one man Jefferson took the parts put them together. The declaration of independence was written by john Adams not Jefferson true Jefferson put everything together but Adams wrote the declaration of independence
The constitution was not even written until 1787-09-17, how could it have been signed in 1776? Also, at the time when it went into effect, 1789-03-04, two states (North Carolina and Rhode Island) had not yet ratified it - Rhode Island only ratified it after being promised the Bill of Rights, and threatened with tariffs as a foreign country. The musical "1776" is about the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.
@@fyodorsliceeater5137 yeah, well I'm referring to John and Abigail Adams, who were from Massachusetts, but would have undoubtedly have had domestic help, so they're still problematic I suppose. Furthermore, Adams signed into law the Alien and Sedition Act, which ought to be enough for the wokies to petition for the disbandment of John Adams Society at his alma mater, Harvard.
@@texasred2702 "Domestic help" is not problematic, unless one has a general aversion to any kind of "service labor". (Which it seems most people do, which leads to all the dumb cultural/political arguments going on.)
The letters between John and Abigail Adams are some of the finest and most readable correspondence between two people. A truly great couple of extraordinary talents both of them.
Such a beautiful song. When they sing I AM, AS I EVER WAS, AND EVER SHALL BE..YOURS, YOURS..YOURS.. I lose it every time.
One of my favorite movies. One of the most endearing love songs ever. John Adams was one of our greatest forefathers. He tried so hard to make this republic and he succeeded. That will be his everlasting memory to our sovereign nation. His love of his wife transcends time and space.
That's almost Tolkien-esque in its wording.
I knew I was going to cry when they started. This is one of the most beautiful love songs ever. It's about the deep real love I always thought I'd find..
I was named for Abigail Adams and I could not be more honoured. Incredible woman.
Forget not all the personal sacrifices made for freedom! Love and devotion as well as remaining faithful despite very long absences from each other. What love!
I have always thought that William Daniels should have won a Oscar for his role of John Adams. Great musical.
I hope he was at least nominated.
@@mca1218 Sad to relate, he wasn't. Remember, he was in a Musical. Musical ad comedies are the genres the Oscars usually has the biggest problem with. Even worse,it was a little politically incorrect in those days.
@Sheldon F
Holy crap you were so lucky!
One of the things I like so much about this song is that without being overt, it's VERY sexy. If you listen closely to the lyrics, John's saying, in so many words, "I'm going to come home and nail you"! Also notice that during the song, they never touch--showing that although they can imagine themselves together, it won't be quite enough until they're actually together again.
I'd recommend the notes that Stone and Edwards wrote for the published script. They shed a lot of light on the accuracy of this show (and, when needed, the liberties they took and the educated guesses they made in order to make it work onstage). Many of John and Abigail's lines (in this song and throughout) were taken directly or paraphrased from their letters.
It's very direct in its message and emotions, and that's what makes it sexy. The loveliest scene from 1776.
It is lovely, and having been in a long-distance relationship myself, very true-to-life and heartfelt.
I love this song and the chemistry between John and abagail. John seems like such a great man.
He was a great man, and as many great men, he was difficult and complex.
This is part of what I love about period romances like this. I've always liked the word "madam" as an endearment. Even when spoken in an "ugh!" voice.
It is still used daily in England. One still refers to any mature woman politely or respectfully as madam.
My fiancée and I watched this movie some months back. Our engagement is sadly at a distance as we live on opposite ends of the country for the time being, but we talk as often as we can. "Ditto ditto,' yours yours yours," and "salt peter" have become in-jokes of ours.
That is so lovely. 😍
My husband and I were long distance before we got married. It can work out, although it was certainly harder than a non LD. This song always reminded me of him whenever we'd have to part.
Such a beautiful, emotional song! I believe the lyrics were taken from (if not inspired by) John and Abigail's letters to each other, which I think makes it all the more meaningful.
Till then, till then, I am as I ever have and ever shall be, yours, yours, yours, yours, yours... a most treasured and favorite complimentary close to letters I write of a particular type...
love this broadway play/movie/soundtrack on CD...
a beautiful song about a beautiful enduring love.
As a composer, I just love how the musical material from 2:22 to 2:56 is used so effectively for both their voices with lyrics that reflect each character so well. The way the orchestra soars along with Abigail’s voice with the strings predominant, painting the poetry that makes the song so memorable while John’s response is quiet, understated and vulnerable with more prominent woodwind texture that seems to say “this is is the unvarnished and plaintive way I try to say I love you.” Beautiful, simple and succinct, yet evocative storytelling.
One of the most emotional moments in the whole musical, alongside “Is anybody there? Does anybody care?” for one. I’m not sure I’ve ever watched the musical without shedding tears at those numbers.
I am, as ever I was, and ever shall be: yours, yours, yours.
Interesting thing to note, the letter about Abigail’s faults was actually written in 1764, and in response to a letter that Abigail had written about HIS faults.
I hope my future husband will love this film as I do. I want us to have a private joke of "Saltpeter, Pins" as a code for "I love you." And of course I'll say "Till then, I am as I ever was and ever shall be, yours." Whether I sing it or say it, whether it is a duet or a solo, something I occasionally say or what we say at each parting, I simply hope that I'll truly mean it. And that he'll know I do.
Enchantingly spoken, madam.
It is years since you posted and I can only say that I hope you found the man of your dreams. You certainly deserve him.
My boyfriend is on the other side of the country this summer. Miss him terribly and this song comes to mind...
Totally passionate !!! My favorite!!!
My favorite....from any musical. Vestoff was incredible.
I’m so grateful Abigail pronounces Quincy’s name properly, as if the “c” were a “z”.
omg they are so cute
There are a lot of adjectives I'd use to describe one of our great Founding Fathers and second First Lady, but "cute" isn't one of them.
Ikrrr
You write letters? Alas, a dying art...
My partner is and always has been across the sea, this song reminds me of them.
Copys of letters between john Adams and Jefferson are in Washington dc. And many other places have these copys of these letters
Adams and Jefferson. Did not agree on many things. They did not talk for years but in time they did and send letters to each other in those letters we know the truth. About those two men
How ironic that they both died on the same day. Thomas Jefferson died first, and as John Adams was dying, his last words were "Jefferson still lives".
@@cair124 They both died on July 4, 1826. Yes, really!
I hate how they cut out John saying pins in the end but other than that I love it Dash that’s one issue that I have with the VHS copies is that it always cut off him saying pins at the end when she says saltpeter
this is the extended version. they don't talk about the pigeon toed remarks in the later cuts.
I’m not sure about the other cuts but for what it’s worth, the one I bought on Amazon Prims streaming this month had that part in. If that version is the extended cut, then that’s a welcome bonus.
Starts @2:05
I saw the play in new york city many years ago. And l saw the play at a high school. They did the play to make money for the school
When John Adams went to France after this, the French didn’t like him… because he refused to take a mistress. I love their love story.
Now that I have the Laserdisc, I prefer the Daytime color-timing for this sequence.
Saw this in high school and thought it was really weird. John Adams singing about saltpeter. I thought it had to be a farce or spoof or something.
Many people know it was john Adams who wrote the the declaration of independence
Note the constitution was not signed in one day it took a full week to have it signed it was done by july 1776
A common trope amongst your comments seem to be the constitution, sir, the constitution was written in 1787, the film takes place in 1776. You could argue that the constitution was written by multiple men however its main writer was indeed James Madison. But this would still be unrelated to the film and quite out of place to say here because the constitution was written 11 years later on September 17th, could you possibly be clearer on which document you're referring to? The declaration of independence(because it's a movie about the declaration of independence) or the constitution (I dont know where tf you got the constitution did ya pull it out of your arse?).
@@xxx-orcinus597 Many people confuse the two documents.
MR FEENY!!!!
No the constitution was written by more than just one man. Then Jefferson put it together wrote everything. From different parts that were done he took the credit for the constitution
Declaration of Independence. Not the Constitution.
Jefferson wrote the Declaration he opposed the constitution until the Bill of Rights were added
@@WilliamRAguilar he only wrote parts of our constitution but he given full credit because john adams was not like
It was john Hancock idea to give. The full credit to Jefferson
There were a group of four people who wrote the constitution
John Adams wrote more than 50 percent of it
It is a known fact
John Adams did not want the credit for the constitution the play
1776 does not tell everything but does tell you a group of four men got together to write the constitution
@@WilliamRAguilar Jefferson took parts of the constitution that was written by a group of four men
Put everything together
He forced to take the full credit by john Hancock. Jefferson was against parts of the constitution from the beginning
@@donaldmcauliffe7653 He wrote the Declaration of Independence not the Constitution.
The natonal archives have the letters between two men Jefferson Adams. You can get copys of these letters. The constitution was written by more than one man Jefferson took the parts put them together. The declaration of independence was written by john Adams not Jefferson true Jefferson put everything together but Adams wrote the declaration of independence
In 1776 the constitution was signed by each state.
The constitution was not even written until 1787-09-17, how could it have been signed in 1776? Also, at the time when it went into effect, 1789-03-04, two states (North Carolina and Rhode Island) had not yet ratified it - Rhode Island only ratified it after being promised the Bill of Rights, and threatened with tariffs as a foreign country.
The musical "1776" is about the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.
How do you think she managed to get away? (Cough) slaves
Massachusetts was not a slave colony.
@@texasred2702 They're talking about Virginia
@@fyodorsliceeater5137 yeah, well I'm referring to John and Abigail Adams, who were from Massachusetts, but would have undoubtedly have had domestic help, so they're still problematic I suppose. Furthermore, Adams signed into law the Alien and Sedition Act, which ought to be enough for the wokies to petition for the disbandment of John Adams Society at his alma mater, Harvard.
@@texasred2702 "Domestic help" is not problematic, unless one has a general aversion to any kind of "service labor". (Which it seems most people do, which leads to all the dumb cultural/political arguments going on.)
It's amazing that more slaves didn't run away. They had a whole continent to escape to.