The Haunting World of Pre-Cinema Moving Images
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2024
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Before the invention of cinema, various moving image toys and tools thrilled and terrified spectators. From the camera obscura to the phantasmagorical magic lantern shows, come learn with me about pre-cinema!
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Sources
Phantasmagoria: The Secret Life of the Magic Lantern by Mervyn Heard
Techno-Logics and Techno-Magics: Phantasmagoria in the Age of Electricity by Kati Röttger
Realms of Light by Richard Crangle
Technology's ghosts: Loie Fuller & the Magic Lantern by Jody Sperling
City of Cinema: Paris 1850-1907 by Peter Lunenfeld for LACMA
The magic lantern, how to buy and how to use it. Also How to Raise a Ghost by “a Mere Phantom”
Phantasmagoria: Ghostly entertainment of the Victorian Britain by Yurie Nakane
A History of Early Film Volume 1 by Stephen Herbert
A History of Pre-cinema Volume 3 by Stephen Herbert
The Modern Supernatural and the Beginnings of Cinema By Murray Leeder
History of the Kinetograph, Kinetoscope, and Kineto-phonograph By William Kennedy-Laurie Dickson, Antonia Dickson
The Art of Projection and Complete Magic Lantern Manual By “Expert” 1893
The dictionary of the arts, sciences, and manufactures By George William Francis
The Art of Projecting: A Manual of Experimentation in Physics, Chemistry, and Natural History, with the Porte Lumière and Magic Lantern By Amos Emerson Dolbear · 1877
Devices of Wonder: From the World in a Box to Images on a Screen By Barbara Maria Stafford, Frances Terpak, Isotta Poggi, J. Paul Getty Museum
Flickering Empire: How Chicago Invented the U.S. Film Industry by Michael Glover Smith and Adam Selzer
The science of vision; or, Natural perspective ... constituting the basis of the art of design, with ... the new optical laws of the camera obscura, or daguerrèotype, also the physiology of the human eye ..by Arthur Parsey
Inventing Cinema: Machines, Gestures and Media History by Benoît Turquety
At the Edges of Sleep: Moving Images and Somnolent Spectators by Jean Ma
Seriously, your fashion commitment is just as impressive as your thorough research, it's always so exciting to see your thematic garb.
This is one of my favorite historical concepts!
Okay, to add to this, the settings in your videos, the lighting?
My partner and I have watched your videos for a while now, and when the piano starts up and the scene changes around seven minutes in, it was an outloud "oooo" moment, love the lighting color pallet
Glad someone else is filled with gitty anticipation to see Kaz’s most recent fit 😊
Sorry, whatever I was doing. Kaz is back. You can wait
don’t feel too bad i took my break early so i could watch lol
Mood ngl. I just finished a chunk of my homework and so I’m taking an early break
DOCTOR YOU CANT JUST STOP MID SURGER- oh wait did you say Kaz? Count me in
I just woke up... And I can confidently say that my sleeping has officially stopped.
@@Thesilliestsillyman not so fun fact: a doctor in the eighties left mid surgery to make sure he cashed his check before the bank closed. He was doing a spinal surgery, iirc.
I wanna say, you can summon dead french monarchs as long as you then send them to hell lmao
Let them eat cake and all that.
As a former librarian, I DEEPLY appreciate how you make quotes very clear and cite sources at the end! You also seem to always cover some subject that I find fascinating. Thank you.
I love that Tutter is just happily chilling in the background while Kaz gives us a lesson about the history of moving images.
Unrelated to this video, but I have made it my life's goal to be the kind of person that someone like Kaz would need to make a myth debunking video about.
Same. I have a feeling that with how bizarre my life has been, I might get lucky, but nothing is for certain. Just gives me more reason to work harder at leaving behind a lasting memory. Good luck stranger. 😊
I will never not be struck by the fact aboriginal australians traditionally regard being photographed or regarded as having one's soul stolen. Like yeah, it is kinda.
that's absolutely fascinating
I went to high school with a girl who “refused” (whined) about having her photo taken for this exact reason. I always thought, “what about last years yearbook photo, your soul is gone 🙄”
Anyway, I gusss she finally agreed because her face is definitely plastered all over Facebook.
Thai southener here. Since you've mentioned Thai shadow puppets. In the central Thai they have 'Nang Yai', the life size shadow puppets. We have a southern version called Nang Talung Which is smaller and similar to the Malaysian and Indonesian ones. In the video, that's southern version. The performer posibly is Master Watee Subsin from Suchart Subsin Thai Shadow Puppets Museum, Well-known Nang Talung performer from Nakhon Si Thammarat. (my home town) We have quite deep history and culture with this type of art. Good laugh at the late night Nang Talung show is still prevalance this days. You could find Nang Talung at pretty much any occation, even at the funeral.
I’ve actually been to a magic lantern show (it was Christmas themed) it is very spooky and atmospheric in person! One of the segments was the Charles Dickens story The Story of the Goblins Who Stole a Sexton which was definitely very creepy and had scenes set in a graveyard. Magic lantern shows are cool I think society should bring them back as more of a thing!
That sounds so cool!
My aunt had a thaumatrope necklace in about 1970. Each side of the disc (or more likely, heart-shape) had apparently random lines on it which, when one blew to spin the disc, spelled "I LOVE YOU". ❤
your demonstration of the zoetrope and its kin reminded me: paleologists have discovered some paleolithic cave paintings were done in such a way that when a single fire was lit, it created a moving image, eg a buffalo running.
i mean its more animated related than cinema related, but its genuinely so fascinating that, as soon as we possibly could, we found ways to create moving images to enhance our storytelling (or because it looked sick as hell lmao). just!!! AHHHH, I LOVE HISTORY!!
(and fantastic video as always 💕)
I was thinking about this when she talked about shadow puppets! So glad you mentioned it!
I remember VIEW MASTER, toy of the 1970s, a plastic stereoscope for children, it was great fun and didn't need batteries.
Yesss, me and my sister loved these. We were clearing out the house one year ago and found them, and they are seriously just as cool now as they ever were!
I got to use my dad's as a kid, I loved it!
The first time I came across a stereoscope in an antique store, I literally referred to it as an "old time-y View Master." 😂
I had one of those! And a ton of those little cardboard cards for it. Good times!
that coat is gorgeous Kaz
Where do they get their clothes??? 😩
was literally heading to the comments to say this
Some of these devices bring back memories of a toy I had as a child; It looks like a red pair of binoculars, and you inserted a paper disk into the top. Then you would see all sorts of images (usually animals) through the binoculars! You moved the picture by clicking a little lever. I wish I could remember what that thing was called.
i think i had those too - slide viewers? i also had the flashlight projectors where you inserted a slide and shone the flashlight against the wall!
I had one of those. Mine was branded as the "View Master"
It’s a viewmaster!
I love the quality of your videos. The scene setting etc. It’s clear to me you put many hours into planning the backgrounds and lighting/outfits you use. Your talent is palpable. I’m so grateful I found your channel earlier last year. It’s one of my favorite things to watch when I want to relax. Your voice is very calming and your storytelling is fantastic!
Taco Bell came out with a mirror box that showed an illusion of Yoda and Darth Vader. It was a Star Wars toy in the shape of a cube. Depending on how you moved it, you'd see either Darth Vader or Yoda. I still have it on my bookcase in my apartment. It's awesome. This episode made me think of it. So cool. It uses light refraction to create a full image of either character, depending on the angle of view.
I’m taking all these lessons to heart - especially the one about reading the room when performing to the French… 😂
Fascinating. It’s easy to look at these films with jaded eyes used to cgi horror and graphic detail on screen, but for complete new comers to the medium, it would have been amazing. It’s also kind of haunting to realise that the majority of human noises used in the backgrounds of movies or tv shows are the sounds made by long dead people - the laugh tracks, screams or chatter on recordings still commonly used…
This video also reminded me of the recent theory about cave paintings - There’s a suggestion that the multi-limbed animals painted on the rock walls of caves were early attempts at optical illusions. It’s not so visible with steady torchlight, but in the flickering firelight, the uneven stone surface would make the images flicker and seem to move.
It seems like we’ve always wanted to trick our own eyes. Wonder is a good thing to inspire, I guess!
I loved seeing all these devices not as pictures or secondhand videos but as stuff Kaz can actually interact with, it helps me understand how they work a bit better. Also oh my god that first outfit with all the embroidery
Omg??? I just clicked on this so idek if it's mentioned in the vid but i JUST got out of a history of photo lecture about Etienne's Phantasmagoria and the magic lantern what the hell. Spooky stuff indeed the timing of this couldn't have been better lmao.. Kaz summoned by random art professor
I really enjoyed this, and the music choices are *on point*, especially the one during the magic lantern talk. And that 18th century suit?? Exquisite
I absolutely love your videos, and whenever I get a notification that you’ve uploaded, it always greatly improves my day!
KR: "Welcome to my court..."
Me: Wait, is Kaz of the Fey? Have I been inviting fey into my house through this modern magic lantern all this time?! Gol-darnit!!
Ah! I love old school film and photography, I minored in photography and have been developing my own photos since late highschool, it's such a cool medium and the history is fascinating
I learned what Camera Obscura was when I was living in Alaska. I was working nights and woke up after my wife left for work to see the inverted image of my neighbor’s house projected onto the wall opposite of the large window in my bedroom. The blackout curtains had parted just enough to create the illusion. At the time I had been suffering what I can only describe as acute mental health issues, these sometimes included intense visual hallucinations upon waking. So initially I thought this was one of those situations, until it didn’t go away. I took a pic and looked it up. I have sought mental health resources and I am much better.
New Video, New Slay
I just gotta say that I appreciate your channel, your work, your research, and your willingness to collect and steward funky little old things
The first experience I ever had with a zoetrope was....a Burger King toy. It was an animation of one of the ninjas from Jackie Chan Adventures running around.
I accidentally had my phone the wrong way so the image was upside down and for a second before my phone fixed it, I was like, "Oh, this is a fun little editing joke about the camera obscura from Kaz."
Some of these shows sound absurd and delightful. We should bring them back
Your videos are genuinely among the best on RUclips. It’s everything, from your clothes to the inclusivity of your research and the interesting topics ❤
As a cinephile I think this is probably my new favorite of your videos! Your costume changes are also fantastic!
Killin' it with the period-appropriate costume, as always Kaz!
Kaz, you ELEVATE this RUclips thing to another level! Thanks for doing what you do! My painting BFA brain was so so happy to watch this one, in particular! ✨
We have an early magic lantern at the Melbourne museum and I was lucky enough to see a demonstration of it. It was so lovely, it's strange to think people ever believed it was evil, but I guess some people still believe the making of the Exorcist was cursed so not that much has changed really.
Such a beautiful thing to think about during the current AI moral panic - the parallels are hilarious to me
I love kaz's videos so much. I don't watch them right away, I save them for the right moment. Normaly when hand sewwing
it feels like a comfort whenever I see you've uploaded a new video
THANK YOU FOR SLAMMING ON EDISON!!! Why don’t people know he was a crumb thief?!?! Kaz, you are marvelous ❤❤❤❤❤
I'm a filmmaker, currently in my last semester of film school, and a film history lover, and as such this is a topic that I've loved learning about for a very long time, and I'm so happy to see you talk about it!
Damn that jacket embroidery slaps ❤
Yay finally something worth opening RUclips for! as always fabulous fit you got on Kaz thx for desperately needed life suppor- I mean video
The fashion choices in this video are SUPREME
The history of moving pictures and cameras is my special interest.
My cat sat herself in my lap while I’m trying to sort papers and is being soooo helpful 🐈⬛
thank you for spoiling us with these wonderful educational videos ily
I love your summary at the end. I go down long "rabbit holes" on obscure forums or sites when researching, usually after digging through a lengthy chain of other sites and tangentially related media. Wherever I end up, I always look for the posted date. Some older articles don't even have a date, but maybe some context that provides a fair estimate of the decade. My point is that I end up in these strange, long-forgotten corners of the internet and wonder how many of these words are from someone who is no longer with us. I wonder what life was like when they posted this, what they were doing, what was I doing, and so on. It's really interesting how much and how little of a person's life you can deduce from such things. In a way, they are - as you say - illuminated on a screen once more, never gone until the last eyes have laid eye upon what they left in this world.
Okay I love that the Victorians basically took photography as a form of immortality. I never thought of that and a week ago my kitty passed. The one thing that helps is all of the photos and videos I took of her. And to think to them they never had that before and to freeze so many wonderful memories into something tangible... That had to be amazing to them all.
A wave of nostalgia hit me as this video reminded me of when the teachers would use those light projectors in school. The ones where they had to use a printed paper to project.
I love how despite having such advanced modern moving picture technology, we still enjoy looking at and playing with the old, less advanced devices and toys.
So good, Kaz!! Your videos are so thoughtful in every way, from the costumes to the historical narrative to the visual storytelling. Cheers from another Chicago creative person.😊
I think it was after the advent of cinema but I think you could do justice to a deep dive of the traveling spook show of the early twentieth century.
Found your channell a few months ago and have since watched literally every video... I really appreciate your research, nuanced takes, and incredible writing for your scripts! You have some serious talent and I am so glad to have found you.
Kaz, I adore your clothes so much and how well you wear them. The efforts to switch costumes/clothes is appreciated. In general, I love your styles! And this is wonderful. I really like tv/theater history even though I am not the most knowledgeable about it. But I love learning things like this. Thank you for your efforts.
I love your outfits for your videos, id be so curious to see your closet lol. And know where you get some of these pieces! Theyre gorgeous!!
So fun to learn about these!! Makes me wish I lived during the time of the magic lantern shows so I could’ve seen them, they sound so magical!
loved seeing some of these in the context of animation and just seeing how all of these devices showed some appreciation for the art form
Yes! I needed a this video today! I used to watch reruns of the wonderful world of Disney back in the mid 90s after the channels main programming would end and I loved watching the detailed segments on this stuff! I could spend an hour talking on the multi plane camera.
Wasn't going to comment anything, since I am already satisfied by the video, BUT THE LITTLE MENACE AT THE END. SHOW US MORE.
One of my school field trips- for American History- was to New Harmony, Indiana where they have a Camera Obscura in one of the cabins. Our junior class split into two groups and took turns doing stupid things outside for the others to watch inside.
Every aspect of your videos are composed of quality artistic flavor. Wardrobe, background, lighting, music… Your art is a compilation of layers of art beauty enough to awe in isolation. Gorgeous and Some Pumpkins. ❤❤❤❤❤
I spoke too soon; I spoke too soon!! I had no idea how much more beauty you were adding at minute 7:00 ish!!! You wow. You gigantically wow. Wow wow wow. ❤❤❤❤❤I still stand by my first comment. I just need you to read that one at a volume eleven, because I mean it eleven billion times more loudly, now.
As always - your content is illuminating (sic!) and fascinating. This time, I am especially in love with your final sentences.
So poetic!
Yes. A ghost hunting history video would be dope. 🤩
I would LOVE to see one of these old fashioned shows, not to mention the modern version, the late night B-movie experience.
In my animation methods class we actually touched on the history of pre-cinema but sadly didn’t have the time in class to get as in-depth as you do in this video. My teacher did bring in a magic lantern to show, though. So that was cool. Happy to learn more about this subject!
My dad had a antique stereoscope and growing up I used to always beg him to let me use it as even for a 21st century kid it was a lot of fun.
Kaz, love your clothes....ALWAYS. you look fabulous in this "rig" you're wearing. You are AWESOME. Re First films, I'm so glad you mentioned Muybridge! Before his work, galloping horses were depicted with the front legs extended forward and the back legs extended behind, which is wildly weird and inaccurate. I'm a professional visual artist, a painter who has painted horses, particularly racehorses, for decades. I studied and observed and drew animals all my long life. For anyone who paints or sculpts animals, Muybridge's famous book, Animals in Motion, is an essential reference! ❤
Got the notification, instantly stopped what I was doing. 👏🏼
Kaz that vintage suit is sooo nice and the little white gloves! What a great touch!! Great video like always (:
"magician and physician" is an absolutely bomb title
Can I just say the outfit and make up choices are absolutely radiant!
Yay! Made my day!!!
Hi kay🌹🌹
How are you doing?
You know when you see a spooky picture online, one you've never seen before and you get that little sinking feeling in your gut, to me it's that fear that makes horror stuff so intriguing. But then imagine never seeing any moving pictures or projection before and then be jump scared by a crusty picture of a skeleton on a smoke screen projected by a seemingly magic lamp, that must have been scary as hell back then.
the criticisms of the magic lantern remind me of a parable (and forgive me for i do not remember completely) where a man is given the gift of being able to see anything he wanted to through a magic mirror, and eventually became so enamored with it that he no longer had any interest in the real world
in junior year i used to binge watch your videos at in the cafeteria whenever they served bean chili and tortillas. so now every time i watch your videos now i crave beef and bean chili lol
I was literally *just* looking into this stuff for some comic research, so it's awesome that you're doing a video on it 💕 I am ready to learn!
Im currently dealing with a wicked stomach bug, and i was just rewatching your old videos! Thanks for this new one, Kaz! ❤
Oooooo omg I’m doing my 20th art history research on the effect of precinema tech on comics/graphical narratives so this is scratching that itch on my brain so well,,,I love how you approach things and all the research you do!!! There’s so little stuff on this transition period from precinema sequential narrative to cinema, and camera obscura to stereoscopex thank you for filling in these gaps !!
GORGEOUS! I can't wait to see this video
The aesthetics and vibes of these videos are *chefs kiss*
This video debuted just as I'm learning about early photography in my art history class :)
Great vid Kaz! The bit on the immortality of being on camera was beautifully written!
Fantastic video as usual Kaz! I am actually already familiar with camera obscura as a result of having studied art history at university, as well as the early film clips thanks to Jordan Peele's film "Nope" where the main characters are descendants of the jockey riding the horse in that famous film clip. The in depth information about magic lanterns, zoetropes and the like however were new to me - it might interest you that a public library in the city where I live has a monthly film club named "Lanterna Magika". Also explains why Francis Ford Coppola named his film production company "American Zoetrope".
My friend and I just recently started working on our first short movie, we wanted to do this for years! Thank you so much for reintroducing me with the magic of film and leaving me motivated to use it as the fleeing and unconventional way to display the world !!!
I don’t know if you take topic requests, but a deep dive on the history of Tom of Finland would be quite rad
It's really cool how many artifacts you've collected! Neat to see them in person.
Kaz in any period outfit is my weakness
The long term human desire for the fantastic makes me so happy.
Amazing video as always! 💗
Kaz, your outfits are always so cool and match the theme sooooo much!!! Love you❤
The part at the end, when you reflect on the ephemeral quality of digital photos - it made me think that I'm thankful I grew up in the 70s-80s. There will probably be physical photos of me in my youth long after the digital renderings of me are lost in some way.
This has been one of my Favorite Videos you have done. I have always loved the inside story of motion pictures. Keep up the good work! You are getting Better and Better!
"world renowned asshole thomas edison" - currently pouring one out for nikola tesla. I SEE YOU iconic outfit change, thank you for the effort and love you put into researching these videos and into the stunning visuals
we have a magic lantern dating from the 1800s in my house!! my dad bought it a few years back, we also have a couple of the glass slides for it. we tried it out one time and it was so interesting
Loved the magic lantern info. To see one who has died on film is both poignant and strange. How ephemeral our lives have become compared to the representations of ourselves.
Kaz thank you so much for what you do! I always adore your videos, even if I had no idea what 90% of what you talk about was before watching. Maybe that’s a part of it-I always feel like I am learning something really cool and inspiring when I watch your videos. They make me feel a bit better about humans. Especially when we make such cool and fascinating inventions such we these. Also I love to hear your kitty running around in the background!
What a spectacular Kaz Rowe episode ! Very enchanting, thank you 💞
This is such a perfectly timed upload. I just learned about silent pictures and pre-cinema media and the history behind their inventions in my entertainment media class. This is such a fun video to coincide that lol.
My grandma left me her stereoscope and box of slides after she died. I still look through the slides a few times a year.
LET'S GO NEW KAZ ROWE VIDEO!!
Yay new Kaz history essay! Love every time when you wear more fabulous era approriate fashion with the ol' timey rizz. 👌❤
Such good timing! Taking a class on early cinema and we went these kind of things briefly and I’ve wanted to learn more. So excited to watch this vid