As far as the French orphans, the older of the two boys actually died in 2001. He lived the majority of his life in Montpelier, France and became a professor of philosophy. He was one of two survivors who got to watch the 1997 James Cameron film.
‼️ thank you for letting us know what happened to them! There are so many interesting stories from the Titanic! Like a lifeboat got separated from the other lifeboats in the chaos and everyone assumed it had sunk. And then like 3 years later a lifeboat from the RMS Titanic washed up in like South America with skeletons on board. No one even knew they were missing. I wonder what happened to those people. Did they survive for a while on the boat?;they must have right? They probably lost their oars and so we're unable to stay with the other lifeboats and just drifted farther and farther away. Fighting with each other going crazy with thirst, maybe some cannibalism. The Titanic sinking was so dramatic on its own that basically no one knows about this. The one group of survivors who didn't die in the sinking and died on a lifeboat in the middle of the ocean instead. What were they thinking? They were probably so happy to have survived the sinking at first. Only to slowly realize they only prolonged their own death
@@WhitneyDahlin …no. You’re thinking of Collapsible A, which was one of the last to leave the ship and had to be floated off. Only 13 of the 20 or so aboard survived because it capsized earlier and was damaged, water had been let in and many died of hypothermia. Later that night, Lifeboat 14 rescued the 13 survivors and cut the boat loose with 3 corpses still aboard (the others had been pushed off after they died so the boat wouldn’t capsize again). Three weeks later, the Oceanic found Collapsible A and collected the 3 dead bodies. No idea where you could possibly get the rest of this information. Especially since the rest of the lifeboats are all accounted for.
@@shutupdave oh crap maybe I'm thinking of another famous sinking? I'm really into maritime disasters so I must have gotten a different sinking mixed up with this one 🤣 sorry thank you for correcting me tho! I will try to find what I'm thinking of and I will come back and update when I do! ❤️
@@WhitneyDahlinoceanliner designs, historic travels, and part-time explorer are channels to get proper information from on ships. Most of everything else, such as channels like brightside are misinformation clickbait channels.
I have no sources for this, but I once heard of a Titanic employee whose job was to own and care for a cat for pest control on the ship. According to the story, the cat ran away as they were boarding, and by the time the guy found her the boat had already left. When the news about the accident arrived he decided that cat had saved his life and pampered her and her kittens for the rest of their lives out of gratitude.
I'd get smashed as hell too if I were convinced that the hourglass had begun counting down the moments 'til my death. That's certainly one way of attempting to accept the startling realization of your own end! ⏳🍺🥴☠️
My favorite story from the Titanic is of Arthur West. He got his wife and two daughters, one daughter being an infant on to a lifeboat. Then he doubled back saying he had to get something. His last act before perishing was getting a warm thermos of milk for his daughter. His wife kept the thermos on the mantle for the remainder of their lives.
From the Titanic is Arthur West. He got his wife and there two daughters, one of daughter being an infant on to a lifeboat. Then he doubled back saying he had to get something. His last was getting warm for real life that is so messed up and horrible
That's good that he did that. In principle he wouldn't have been eligible to go with them anyway, unless he was a very wealthy man. But smart to use the time the lifeboat was delayed to heat some milk. Interestingly, Thermos were just becoming super fashionable.around that time, so the branding and socio-economic circumstances check out
Seems like early Hollywood had a habit of making films about catastrophic events and hiring survivors to play in them. Armenian Genocide survivor Aurora Mardigian was cast to play herself in the film based on her memories of the genocide, I can only imagine how traumatizing that was. For her, it was a chance to tell the world the truth, but her mental health suffered hugely
They had (the Hollywood big wigs) a suffering fetish of sorts. It's wild that some people (mainly Turkish and people of Turkish descent) still deny the Armenian genocide when there is lots of evidence even from Turks themselves.
One fact about Dorothy Gibson’s Titanic film that has always stuck with me is the fact that she wore the same outfit that she wore DURING THE SINKING. Apparently she was extremely distraught while filming and was experiencing a lot of trauma.
@@Blunsadiesmom They definately didn't understand trauma back then, nowhere near our understanding it now. I think it's very important to add that Dorothy not only was persuaded by her manager to appear in said film but she also wrote the screenplay for it. Considering this fact, I highly doubt that she was 'forced' to do it. I suspect she wanted to do it, having no idea of the negative impact it could have on her. It was only after putting on the outfit again and reliving everything that the trauma truly hit her.
@@BlunsadiesmomPTSD was only named as PTSD in the 1980s. In the second world war the UKs RAF called it LMF or Lack of Moral Fibre and in the first World War it was known as shell shock, but until the eighties, treatments weren't really looked into properly. Even now a lot of people don't understand trauma, even professionals I've seen tbh.
@marnie9063 especially when it came to women, although I did find some articles about a woman who was put into court because she murdered her child during or after an air raid drill because of trauma from previous ones. I'm probably incredibly off point but either way it's interesting to see how trauma is understood throughout the centuries.
Yeah, I think today we forget that people gave it no attention (mental health) reminds me of Julia Koepcke story. Sort of. The way the just both went on with their lives
One fascinating thing about the Titanic is the overlooked stories of the many, many Arab passengers on board. Apparently everyone at the time just assumed anyone remotely ethnic-looking was Italian, so the accounts of surviving second and third class passengers of the disaster described virtually everyone they encountered from the Third Class as generic “Italians,” when in fact there were only eleven Italian passengers in third class, vs somewhere between 140 and 165 from the Arab world, who got clocked as Italian steerage passengers in the survivor accounts. Accounts that describe specific lifeboats as “full of Italians” can be matched with the accounts of Arabic-language survivors in those same boats (at the time, the Ottoman Empire had not yet been broken up into the modern countries of the Middle East, so it is easiest to classify these passengers by language). The Dream and the Nightmare: The Story of the Syrians who Boarded the Titanic by Leila Salloum Elias, which draws on passenger lists from Arabic newspapers and oral accounts from Lebanese villages, created a revised account of the number of passengers from the Ottoman Empire left out of English records. If these revised totals are correct, Arab passengers- predominantly Arab Christians from villages in what is now Lebanon- may have been the single largest group by nationality in third class, and the third or fourth largest on board after Brits, Americans and the Irish. I am NOT saying there was a big intentional conspiracy here to whitewash the Titanic- but it sort of happened accidentally. Most of the survivors whose stories were passed down to us were obviously from the first and second class, so their impressions of who made up the third class have been transmitted down into pop culture. The Titanic was a far more global and international disaster than we often think. I highly recommend Elias' book to anyone with an interest in Titanic scholarship, for a very different international view of the disaster. The survivor accounts are absolutely fascinating.
As a Haitian woman, I'm really grateful that you mentioned that Joseph Laroche was a Haitian man. I knew of his story for several years now, but many people like to only talk about him being black, not about his nationality. 🇭🇹 I love your channel and all the work you put into your videos, I'm always learning something new! ❤
I appreciate Kaz bringing it up as well as a filmmaker married to a SAG actor. My question I have (serious one here) is how would Kaz be crossing the picket line? If they’re not a studio themselves, I can imagine that they could work with union folks or ideas as long as they abides by SAGs new proposed contract. Serious question :) this is one of my favorite channels.
@@DemetriusWren sag aftra have published some policies and requests for influencers and content creators on how they can support, including not posting anything related to struck content. I dont have a link in my clipboard but theyre spreading it online which im sure will come onto yours and your partners feeds soon but i just googled earlier because of a different influencer announcing a change in their content as it wouldve involved struck content
@@DemetriusWren as I understand it, SAG-AFTRA has asked content creators to cease putting out content about films and other media that's tied into their strike and negotiations. Sounds like the vid Kaz is holding back falls in that category so if they were to put it up they would be crossing the picket line.
Literally paused at 0:39 to come say exactly this!!! I love Kaz for this fr. Everybody respecting the strike is just. UGH. SOLIDARITY. That's what we need.
When I was in the 6th grade, right when Titanic mania hit. My computer teacher brought in a special guest; her grandmother, who was a child on the Titanic. It was mind boggling hearing her first hand experiences of that night, mostly of being cold and scared.
Great video, but as a former field medic I feel obliged to correct the story about the drunk guy. Alcohol expands blood vessels, making you feel warmer for a bit, but drastically quickening the effects of hypothermia. If he survived, what kept him warm was likely a mix of body fat, muscle, and the body heat from 2 hours of continuous paddling. Drinking alcohol 100% hurts your chances of surviving in extreme cold
He likely wasn’t in the water for two hours. Men who had been in the water thought they were in it for much longer than they thought because of how torturous it was and they didn’t have a way to tell time. According to On A Sea of Glass, the temperature of the water would kill people in 15 minutes (-2 degrees celsius). He probably was only in it for a few minutes before reaching Collapsible B.
@@shutupdave I looked him up and read an article about him from the National Post. He was indeed in the water for a long time. He was one of the last in the water (at 2:20 am), but he didn't get out until the first light of dawn helped him locate collapsible B. It wouldn't have started to get light until 4 or 5 in the morning. According to some experts on cold survival interviewed for the article, the cold of the water would have caused his blood vessels to contract, counteracting the expanding effect of the alcohol (though they still don't recommend alcohol as a shipwreck or cold survival tactic lol). They also claim that in the water conditions faced by the Titanic, the average adult will go numb in about 10 minutes and it could be over an hour before their heart stops. They suspect (as @shutupdave also said) that his calm, constant paddling likely slowed the cooling of his body, allowing him to survive even longer. The article concludes that the alcohol probably did save him, because it reduced the effects of the cold shock of hitting the water, and kept him calm so that he could figure out a way to get out of the water. Many people's panicked behavior caused them to drown or freeze faster, staying calm is key. Not to victim blame or anything though. I would also panic in the same situation, it's a pretty reasonable response that is not easy to control. But yeah, the idea that the alcohol in his blood stream stopped him from freezing is definitely not the case.
I just read Dead Wake (a book about the sinking of the Lusitania) and it said that passengers who recently drank alcohol had a high percentage of dying despite the saying of alcohol making your body warm. I was confused by this part of the video.
For anyone wondering, the countess of Rothes was in the movie. She was introduced early on, but she’s also the one that came out of her room and said “excuse me, why have the engines stopped? I felt a shudder” and the steward responds “I shouldn’t worry madam, we’ve likely thrown a propeller blade. That’s the shudder you felt. May I bring you anything?”
The Titanic wreckage is an underwater grave and should be treated and respected as such and not treated as simply a tourist attraction. Caitlin Doughty of Ask a Mortician here on RUclips did a great video on underwater graves a couple *years ago.
The idea that alcohol consumption warms the body is a myth; consuming alcohol can cause the skin to flush with blood and create the illusion of warmth, but this draws blood out of deeper tissue within the body somewhat and so could actually make you colder. Charles' intoxication aided him moreso that it dulled his senses and protected him from shock, allowing him to maintain movement as he treaded water which staved off him freezing to death. This may also explain why he felt warmer in the water; he was no longer treading water once in the boat and so was not warmed by his physical activity.
Also I heard that he wasn't actaully in the water for Two hours ...a mixture of him being drunk and the shocking cold water had vaguely distorted his sense of time as one survivor who was in the water quoted saying " the water was so cold it felt like I was in it for hours but it had only been 15 or 20 mins.😢❤🙏
I got all the more respect for the tragedy of the Titanic after learning about the sinking of the S.S. Arctic. The Arctic was a ship that suffered a huge collision, in 1853, and as it began to sink, the captain, the stewardesses and some of the tripulation fought in vain to have the female passengers and children into the life boats. Every time, the male passengers and some men in the tripulation would overun the women and children, throw them into the sea and destroy the boats fighting to get abord. A young sailor tried in vain to sign for help, and when the captain asked him to give up and try to save himself, answered: "Tell them that when the time came, at least one man remained at his post". He died there. Meanwhile, the stewardesses kept the water pumps that the crew had abandoned manually working for as far as they could to give the others a chance, their hands cut and bruised bleeding profusely. They all died there, too. During the last hours, the captain and the remaining passengers couldn't do anything to try and save anyone, because they spent their entire time fighting the MANY men who turned into sexually assaulting the women aboard during the sinking, many of which has been left by fathers and husbands who had taken the boats. The captain lost his entire family in those last monents. When the few survivors (no woman or children) were finally rescued, it was a HUGE scandal and those who had survived by overtaking the boats, as soon as they learned there had been surviving witnesses, booked away to Canada. There is a reason "women and children first" being (mostly) respected during the sinking of the Titanic is such a big deal.
It may be a symptom of perhaps my extreme cynicism or just all the true crime I have read about, but I have to admit that THIS is a lot more what I would expect aboard your average ship sinking at the time (or even now).
I expected you to include Masabumi Hosono, the only Japanese survivor of the Titanic. He had been prepared to die on board when a call went out from one lifeboat that there was room. He got in and survived, only to be vilified in his home country for nor dying honorably in the sinking. The rest of his life, he was called a coward and was pretty miserable.
The parents doing what they could to save their children hit me the hardest. I'm not crying, you're crying. I don't even want to imagine how hard it was for the parents that knew they couldn't do anything.
Something about rich billionaires dying due to their obsessive need to see a shipwreck where a bunch of underprivileged and poor people died is truly ironic
My ancestor was on a titanic, he left London to go move to be with his parents. He was a second class passenger and was only on the titanic because the st.Louis was too late in booking. He was on life boat number 9! This is a letter he wrote of his experience “I jumped up, put on light clothing and went up on deck. The steam was blowing with a deafening noise. I did not see the iceberg myself. I talked to the officers and the Captain ordered us to get the ladies. I ran down, got more clothing and went to Miss Wright. She had got up and was out on the deck. There were no more women to go and I asked the officer if there was any objection to my going in that boat. He said ‘No, get in’ and I was the last one in. I think it was the third from the last to go on that side. It was No. 9 and we had to get away fast. Besides other boats going down there was danger from the sinking boat. I cannot describe the sinking in any other way than to say that it was like the noise from a football field, not loud like a shout of victory, but hushed as though there was canvas over it... There were two loud noises as she went down. It was like as if all the cargo went from one side of the ship to the other all at once. It may have been bursting of the boilers or the vessel breaking itself in two. I don’t know. It seemed to me that we all should go down. As she sank I saw her looming up more clearly just as on a lantern slide when they are bringing a picture into focus.”
@@giovannirastrelli9821 after he the titanic and went to college some werid college cult branded hit forehead with a cross and disfigured him I think he would’ve been better off dying 😭
Another minor fact from the movie. If you remember the scene where the woman jumps into a lifeboat and misses, then gets pulled back onto the deck, she was based on a real passenger who was able to jump again and landed in Lifeboat #10
I find learning about the people on the Titanic so interesting, even if it is horribly depressing. I think it's important to learn about tragedies like these.
agreed. as depressing and horrible as it can be, i enjoy learning about the people involved in tragedies. we all know about the titanic, WWII, 9/11 etc. but what is almost never covered is the human element - we know how many people died or survived, but each one of those people had a life and it was either snuffed out or changed forever. you aren't likely to read about that in a history book or hear about it in a documentary, so i commend creators who share that same passion and pass those stories along. it keeps the memory of those involved alive and makes it an actual event that happened to actual people rather than just a headline or a script for a novel or movie.
Yes, this is the history that fascinates me, the history of people rather than peoples, personal battles, not wars. Stories of individuals can tell you so much more about a time and place than dry as dust history we were taught in school.
I remember another crazy story about the only Japanese passenger on the Titanic. After a steward woke him up, Masabumi Hosono was blocked from the deck cause the person thought he was a 3rd class passenger. He ended up making it to the deck and into a lifeboat, ultimately surviving. Sad thing is, people made up stories about him (he was a stowaway on the lifeboat, he dressed as a woman to get on) causing him to be publicly condemned in the US. He ended up losing his job for a bit because of the stowaway accusation (the disguise accusation wasn’t reported in Japan), but he got his job back and worked there until he died in 1939 EDITED to fix the autocorrect “public ally” to “publicly”. Apologies for any confusion
@@skate103 fixed the spelling my dude. It was supposed to say “publicly” not public ally. My apologies for typing quick and not checking my autocorrect and making sure stuff was spelled right on mobile
You may be conflating this with “The Six” - six Chinese sailors that were sailing to jobs in Cuba 3rd class. Those stories were told about them and there were not let into the USA because of the Chinese exclusion act. The Japanese diplomat was condemned in Japan for surviving- it was considered shameful. He wasn’t the only one either - many men in the aftermath had to justify their existence.
@@skate103some people are not native speakers and to make fun of someones grammer to me is low brow type of joke. Please next time think about that before you post a comment like this. If there are any grammar mistakes I'm sorry but I am not a native english speaker.
Coal fires on ships at the time were a pretty common occurrence, the ships were after all carrying thousands of tons of the stuff. The story of the fire wasn't covered up by the White Star Line as it wasn't even worth writing about before the disaster. Coal fires also weren't raging infernos threatening to engulf ships in flames, they were usually small sections of smoldering coal which could be contained very easily. Also regarding the smudge on the hull, it only appears in 2 photos of the ship when she is very close to the shore and since Titanic was a brand new ship the fresh coats of paint on her hull would've been very reflective. The smudge is therefore a reflection of the shore. When it comes to Louis and Lola we do actually know who they were and what happened to them after the sinking. Their real names were Michel and Edmond Navratil, they were 3 and 2 years old respectively. After their return to France with their mother they lived a pretty happy life, Michel went to university and became a professor of psychology, while Edmond became an architect and interior designer. In the Second World War Edmond joined the French Army, but was captured as a prisoner of war. He managed to escape, though he sadly died aged only 43 in 1953 from poor health as a result of his time as a prisoner. Michel on the other hand lived a very long life and died in 2001 at the of 92, he was the last male Titanic survivor.
Too add to this, it's believed that the fire actually helped the ship stay stable during the sinking. The coal fire was in a starboard bunker, and the stokers shifted hundreds of tons to port to put out the fire, actually causing a tilt to the port side. During a sinking, a ship will usually sink downward and towards the source of the water. According to sinking simulations, if the coal were level in the bunker, the ship likely would've capsized, but it stayed level thanks to the massive shifted weight
@@ChickVicious237 it's so remarkable how many small nuances ended up playing such a large role in the entire event. A microcosm of tragedies and mini miracles
Fun fact about me, the titanic was my hyper fixation growing up. For some reason i really loved learning about it. I'd love to hear more stories i absolutely loved them!
as an argentinian, as soon as i heard about violet jessop i become obsessed, i bought her autobiography and i CANNOT recommend it enough, its so well written and alluring,literally impossible to put down, i loved this video and im so happy you mentioned her!!
One story that I learned about and real hits home how badly some people suffered was the Addergoole Fourteen. Fourteen men and women from the same Irish Parish were going to America with hopes of getting jobs. Only a few women survived and paid pennies by white star while they were in hospital and to dazed to understand what was happening to fully consent to the papers they were signing(they were just told to sign here over and over so they believed it was medical papers so they signed). Their descendants have said they never spoke of the Titanic and when one did she said the screams haunted her every night. The parish suffered the hardest as they were small and everyone lost a family or friend. Their was a documentary I saw and if you like up the Addergoole Fourteen you'll find it
I used to work at the exhibit in Orlando. Theres a ton of fun things that are never touched upon by the dramatic movies retelling the sinking. Thank you for making this video.
I think I went to that one! I like how the ticket gives you a background of someone on the ship. Then all the names of the victims at the end and you check for your name. I was shocked that most of the people who died were workers on the ship.
@@haleymist09i think the exposition im working at right now is the one you guys are talking about! its in paris right now, i got to see it on my break it was pretty good
The drunk man who survived didn't survive due to being kept warm by the alcohol it actually makes the body more susceptible to hypothermia. I think the reason he survived is because he was so drunk he was able to stay calm. Most people panic being thrown into freezing water making them more likely to drown.
My favorite survivor story is that of Frank Goldsmith. When he grew up he moved to Detroit across the street from Tiger Stadium. He could never go outside during a game because the cheering crowd reminded him of the screams of the people in the water.
i've heard that mentioned from a lot of survivors or their families - we're desensitized to it because of hollywood, but in 1912 this was severely traumatizing for many people. they had never heard people screaming for help, seen someone injured or die in front of them, felt many of the emotions or sensations that were experienced that night. the memory of those hours stayed with many of the survivors, with one of the most common being the noise of large crowds acting as a trigger for them so many left the larger cities and moved to quieter areas.
The coal fire wasn't mysterious or covered up. These ships carried thousands of tons of coal and small fires were quite common. The fire on the Titanic was monitored and maintained by the ship's crew and never posed any real threat to the ship. The smudge in the photo is much more likely to be wet paint and its location on the hull is nowhere near any of her coal bunkers. Also, the White Star Line did not heavily publicize the ship as unsinkable. She was described as "practically unsinkable" in a builder's magazine published by a third party but that's pretty much it. Confidence in ships like the Titanic was at an all-time high and making a claim like that would be sort of weird since passengers generally weren't that concerned about the ship's safety. It would be kind of like American Airlines doing an ad campaign in 2023 calling their planes "uncrashable".
Yours was the post I was looking for! Especially the “unsinkable” part, it has been added by history - I guess it ties a neat bow of irony over the whole tragedy. I always find it weird, when history channels stumble over this.
The Titanic is more than just a ship that had sunken down to the deepest depths of the ocean. It was a valuable artifact that can never be retrieved to the surface, but will always remain within the vastness of the waters. We know just how historical value these olden transportations have.
@@TheMelorinoHave you watched the real time video on the sinking of the Titanic? Due to his aerodynamics, it DRAMATICALLY increased in speed as it sank and it crashed at the bottom of the sea at a HUGE speed, so imagine a humongous truck at impossible speed crashing head on with a mountain. Not much would remain intact. Most of the Titanic was utterly crushed on impact, whole floors pancaked, so it is important as an artifact of sinking ships and sunken ship decay histories, not really as a time capsule, which it ceased to be as soon as it hit the ocean floor.
@@edisonlima4647parts of it are still kinda intact, people enjoy it cause its old and looks pretty and it got even more intrigue because of the disaster
@@edisonlima4647 the part in front got some rooms like the turkish bath still intact, the pool is like that too probably, still sealed. Is the half of the back that got the worst cause of an implosion while drowing. But yeah mostly all of the rooms etc will be burried and lost anyway in some years.
I have a suggestion for a future video! Wouldn't it be interesting to get to see how children drew back in the victorian/edwardian era? I have recently searched for children's art from the past, and thought it would be interesting if you compile to us some of their drafts, drawings, and even their calligraphy. I very much appreciate your content! Thanks a lot!
Another random story of the Titanic includes 24 year old, Ann Elizabeth Isham who borded the ship with her great dane and when the ship started sinking she denied getting off because she didn't want to leave her dog
Aww I saw a video recently about the dogs on board, luckily there weren't too many, about 12 or so, and most larger breeds died unfortunately. I believe it was something like 3 Pomeranians survived only because their owners were woman who hid them under their coats as they boarded the life boats, I think one of them might have even disguised them as a bundled up baby in order to bring them on board. ❤
She never owned a dog, there was a passenger who owned a Great Dane apparently but it wasn’t Ann Elizabeth Isham. People only started saying that because we have no idea where she was when the ship went down
The amount of lifeboats onboard really didn't change the Disaster that much surprisingly. If she had carried the required 50 odd lifeboats for everyone on board what would have happened was the Titanic would have gone down with 30 odd still tied down to the ship. They only just about floated off the last two of 20 just as the ship plunged. To have used more you'd have to change a lot more about the ship, added a PA system etc.
The Public Adress System was at that time really new technology. First large scale installation was at Comisky Park in Chicago (Illinois, US) in 1913. Agreed though. That would've definitely helped out immeasurably.
A PA system would have helped, but only so much. Many of the passengers couldn't speak English, especially in the third class. Signage using easily interpreted images nudging passengers towards where to go in an emergency and posting maps of the ship would have been been super helpful, though, and are safety precautions we use now.
It wouldn't have sank so fast without the flawed bulkhead design. If it were designed better, they might have needed those extra 30 boats in this event.
Yes, Titanic simply did not have the time to get all the boats off. People often point to Britannic but forget that she was made with the hindsight of the loss of her sister and had much better davits installed to allow multiple boats. I wrote a really long comment about this on another video, but it's just as you said--there really was not enough time to launch that many extra boats. They basically launched 15 of the 18 launchable boats within a 65 minute time period! Boats 7-5-3 between 12:40 and 12:55, and then the remaining 15 between 1:00am and 2:05am. The ship didn't even sink for another 15 minutes but there wasn't any time at all to get Collapsible A & B onto davits. So basically they had 65 minutes to launch 15 boats. Then you have to factor in the time it takes to get boats loaded and launched--around 5-6 minutes to lower. Then you have to think about the fact that of the crew of around 900, only about 55 were actually sailors! The rest were stewards, restaurant/kitchen staff, stokers, etc. If you had 25 lifeboats, you'd only be able to put two sailors in per lifeboat. Not to mention, who is supposed to lower that last lifeboat? Do you have deck crew lower and then they jump overboard and hope for the best?? The collapsibles couldn't be launched until boats 1 and 2 were lowered--I think the emergency boat davits were much smaller than the standard boats, so the collapsibles HAD to be launched from those davits only. Lifeboat 1 was launched at 1:05 but they didn't launch Collapsible C until nearly 2:00am, over an hour later! By then of course it was way too late for Collapsible A to be launched.
The ship was designed to hold over 50 lifeboats, not required, but the line decided that was too many for aesthetic reasons. The number of lifeboats was determined by the tonnage of the vessel and not passenger numbers at that time which was regulated by the Board of Trade which, given the Titanic's weight, was not that many lifeboats. The line decided to go with only 20 instead of how many passengers were on board as they thought that more lifeboats would 'block the best views of the ocean' by the passengers. Sad deal all around as even with 20 fully loaded, there would not have been enough room to hold everyone on board.
Further information that wasn't mentioned in the segment about Violet Constance Jessup. The Britannic was actually the third and final ship of the Olympic class of ships commissioned by The White Star Line, meaning she had been on the Olympic when it crashed, and both the Titanic and Britannic when they sank. That was the real significance and insane coincidence of her story.
the two boys who were kidnapped by their dad, one Michel became a professor of philosophy he was also the oldest surviving male titanic survivor ding in 2002. the other Edmond died in 1953. I don't understand why you ended their story by saying "we've never hear about them since" I found this by simply googling Titanic orphans
Yeah that was a really perplexing way to end that story. Theirs is probably one of the most well known passenger stories, certainly the most well known stories of second class passengers! It would've taken no more than that simple search you mentioned to find more, since they were the only children to survive without a parent/guardian!
Tbh, I turned it off after that, because there are plenty of easily-accessible resources saying what happened afterward. No shade to the creator, I like her & she clearly works hard. It just irked me a bit, suggesting she possibly used one resource that wrongly claimed the boys’ story ended there, but seemingly she didn’t check up on it herself, which made me not really want to hear the rest.
Charles is like the Brazilian people: works meanwhile tragedy strikes. Also, i loved the Unsinkable Woman and Joseph's story is so sad, because imagine going with your family to anywhere else and during this, the thing where you are is having problems, and you are obligated to letting your beloved ones while you're dying.
I am glad you said that about Charles. 6 months ago, a man fell over board on a cruise line ship while going to the bathroom. He was in the water for 48 hours or more before the coast guard found him. However, the length of time in the water is what amazed me. After some digging into the story, the guy hand no idea how he got into the water from one of the upper decks. The reason why he had no knowledge of the whole incident until he woke up in a body of dark water....him and his sister were partying at the bar-got heavily drunk. He survived as well because of all the alcohol he had.
True. Hence passengers on crashed aircrafts trying to get their carry-ons out if the overhead lockers. These people are not calous but are trying to get back control.
I am normally anxiety-ridden by normal daily occurrences, however in emergency or high stress situations, I am inexplicably calm & rational. It’s like a “no bullshit” part of my brain takes over.
Hey, hate to be that guy, but alcohol expands capillaries in your extremities, making you feel warmer while your body is breaking it down, but this stops your body from conserving it for your major organs. You feel warmer, but you will absolutely freeze faster. Probs the consistency of his exertion while having to trwad for hours helped raise his core temp vs sitting in a boat, but certainly alcohol did not. Not panicking is helpful to not expend extra energy/bodily resources as well. Still a legend, but alcohol will not help you in the extreme exposure to cold. It is quite counterproductive. Just so people know if you ever face a terrible situation where this would come up.
Correction on the "we never heard of them since..." part of the Waifs of the Sea: The older of the boys, Michel, was actually the last male Titanic survivor. Dude has his own Wikipedia page. Also, the pictures taken of him and his baby brother look so damn cute.
Yes, I'm pretty confused about what source was used for this video because the story of the Navratils is pretty well known and has been for decades! Almost anyplace you look that mentions them would give their real names. Actually there is a really good historical fiction book about their parents called Orphans of the Storm where the author did a TON of research into the parents and discovered some previously unknown information she included in the book.
This young woman is highly articulate and educated.She is enjoyable to listen to and demonstrates great empathy towards others! Great job! Keep it up!😊😊😊😊
Ooh! My favorite Titanic story is the fact that the baker survived while being completely piss drunk. If i had to survive a shipwreck, i want to do it drunk as hell 😂
Charles Joughin! Dude rode the stern down like it was an elevator! He said that his hair didn't even get wet! Love him! Got to live a decently Long life too. Passed away in Patterson New Jersey at 78.
Learning about stories like these truly allows us to understand there are to the statistics, these were actual people with actual lives. I hope the people who lost their lives had found peace. Love your video Kaz ❤
it gets even more heartbreaking - after his death, his widow never let her daughters out of her sight. they never married and until they died, juliette and her two daughters all slept in the same bed every night so they would never be separated again. this is the human element of the titanic, and tragedy in general, that they don't tell you in movies or wikipedia, and it's a small but crucial detail a lot of us don't think about.
very off topic but you are absolutely beautiful and I can tell you have an old soul and thank you for being respectful with the history it's amazing to see people around my age still caring with how they portray themselves as an influencer, your a good role model and I'm subscribing now 🖤🖤
Yay Kaz is back! As a fellow enby history nerd I love these video essays. Titanic is surrounded by a lot of stories and almost always the real stories are the most interesting ones. The ship is in such a place that it's taken 40-50 years of even to unravel most of the story which had partly lost to time. Like James Cameron and people around him did most of the "heavy lifting" for the movie research and have been down there a couple times after that too.
joseph’s story made me cry (which i wasn’t expecting to happen while making my coffee!!) as sad as their story is, he made sure his family got to safety, which i think is the best to hope for in that situation. i wonder if he was thinking about his chances of getting on a boat while he was getting them ready, given the fact he was a man and black. it’s heartbreaking. thank you for sharing these!!!
Your content is some of the highest tier on RUclips. Not only do I appreciate your personal style, smarts, and delivery, but all of the atmospheric details and decisions that create a distinct signature yet miraculously on-point vibe. Modern historians like you are doing groundbreaking work to begin filling the holes we’ve dug ourselves into and speaking truth. It’s changing society in an impactful way, and I know I can rely on you as a creator with consistency. A+
Another person who died on the Titanic was mystery writer Jacques Futrelle. I read his book of short stories when I was a teenager, and it had an introduction that talked about it, and said that several unpublished stories went down on the ship with him. I'll definitely go watch that episode, I LOVE art nouveau decor!
His wife May Futrelle’s story was on a Sea of Glass. Jacques told her to leave him because he wouldn’t get on a boat even when she insisted. She left to “go die somewhere else” when Officer James Moody saw her, grabbed her and basically dragged her to a nearby lifeboat (#9) while she protested. She proved to be a Titanic fanatic, saying she could talk about the sinking for hours and kept track of which lifeboats her fellow first class passengers got into which confused historians who tried to place her in her own lifeboat but struggled because she kept talking about other people’s stories like a reporter.
Thank you for making this video! I've always been interested in the history of the Titanic, but it wasn't till recently that the human side of it had more of an impact on me. In 2021, my husband and I went to Catalina Island for our 1st year wedding anniversary and the museum there had an exhibit on the ship. It was focused more on the people who were on the Titanic vs the tragedy itself, and talked about the people who worked on the Titanic and lesser known passengers. It showed letters that were written by people that had their hopes, dreams, and well wishes to others on it. It truly drilled home the human aspect of the event, and the only reason why these letters survived is because of the mail clerks making it their priority to ensure these letters and documents got off the ship before it sank. Sadly, none of the clerks survived. Also, if anyone is interested, Tasting History with Max Miller did a series of videos on the food that was served on the final trip of the Titanic. He also covers the stories of the cooks and other workers on the ship, including Charles Joughin.
I get that it's different from your average graveyard since it was a catastrophe, but I still get wanting to see it, especially since what's left of the ship is being eaten away.
The sailor who kept in touch with the countess of rothes actually went to the lifeboats that were docked after the sinking and removed the plaque from his and the countess's lifeboat to present to her for her heroism and courage in the face of disaster.
The number of life boats wasn’t really the problem. There were life boats left when it completely sunk. With the slow start evacuation and how long it took to actually release a life boat, there was no way to many other people could have survived. James Cameron has made a full scientific trial video to prove and explain this.
Agreed, obviously more would have been better, but the first several life boats launched were almost empty because no one wanted to leave the warmth of the ship.
There’s a story (possibly an urban legend) of a couple named the Blenkhorns who were supposed to have a honeymoon cruise on the Titanic but their wedding party ran long. They moved to Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada where they met their demise when an f4 or f5 tornado struck the city in the summer of 1912.
My great-great aunt was a third class passenger on the Titanic! She was about 16 years old and travelling from Ireland to New York in search of work. She ended up surviving and lived in New York for roughly a decade, saving up the money to return home and marry her boyfriend. I can’t imagine the fear she must have felt going on a ship again after the tragedy but even though I never knew her I feel so so much pride whenever I remember her story ❤️
I appreciate your voice and tone so much. I get very overstimulated very easily and I’ve come to find you’re the one I watch the most when I need to relax ❤
i love weird stories!! i work in a kinda famous museum rn and i always make sure to tell ppl the best anecdote i have about the woman the exhibition we r hosting is abt (sarah bernhardt who coincidentally kaz most likely knows since shes herself a visual icon of the art nouveau style,, of mucha's work in particular who i discovered today also did a portrait of maud adams!! the world of famous ppl seems small) n they r always rly surprised cant wait to use this video as anecdote content for me to tell others 😎😎 edit: i love the coincidence that simone louise and their mother ended up on the same rescue boat as the countess,, thats kind of neat i guess
Around 4:13, A problem. The Titanic was never claimed to be "Unsinkable". It was "Practicaly Unsinkable" or as safe as they can make it at the time. Only 1 ever newspaper ever stated "unsinkable"
Watching this video on a ship next to the muster stations. The ones I’m on has life boats meant for 123 but can fit 223 in the event not all lifeboats work. Crazy that this cautionary tale is why we have so many spots
The movie Titanic always makes me cry and I used to think I was weird for that. But the event itself is so catastrophic and terrifying. There is such beauty and sadness in every person’s personal story on that ship, thanks for sharing some!
Hi there. Love you content. As a medical professional, i find the story about the man surviving hypothermia due to alcohol quite dubious. Alcohol makes you *feel* warm because it opens your blood vessels letting warm blood flood your skin and extremities; however, if you're in a hypothermia situation, that's the exact OPPOSITE of what you want. You want your body to keep your warm blood in the most vital parts of your body and shielded as much as possible from the cold closer to the surface of your skin.
Yeah, Joughin claimd to have paddled in the water over two hours before hanging out near Collapsible B until it was discovered by boats 4 and 12 at 4am. But he claimed to have gone down with the ship, and there were less than two hours between the time the ship sank and the time Collapsible B's survivors were rescued by boats 4 and 12. I think what is most likely is that after the ship sank, he paddled over to Collapsible B and climbed aboard. No way was he in the water for 2 hours.
Great video Kaz.. a few inaccuracies but I enjoyed it very much. As for the lighthouse memorial reference... Lighthouses were originally meant to warn ships of potential danger (as you all know) but also to lead them home safely and to be that 'beacon of hope', as it were, and I believe that is the point of the lighthouse.. Please come home safely or safe voyage for your final destination.
Titanic was never marketed as "unsinkable" it was marketed as "nearly unsinkable" and while it did not have enough life boats for the souls on board, studies have shown it would not have made much of a difference. The ship sank too quickly to get all passengers in boats as it was, in fact the last few boats were simply thrown into the water as the ship sank into the ocean for people to try to hold onto.
Personally, I absolutely adore this casual approach, along with the gorgeous window lighting. It's up to you, I'll watch anyway, but this I highly enjoyed this episode !
Car-pay-thee-yah. Sorry it's the only thing bugging me here. Brilliant work. I so love the story of the baker. I was overjoyed to see a tidbit of him in the Titanic movie.
I'm curious. It has been said that the Titanic as a site of mass death shouldn't be a tourist attraction. That said, what are peoples thoughts on other sites such as the ruins of Pompeii?
I think it's like Kaz said.. its sterile/intangible where as we have so much testimony, including recorded interviews, from survivors. If you go to the site of a modern tragedy the atmosphere tends to be sombre and reflective. The difference with the colosseum or pompeii is striking! I think where sites can be well managed there is immense educational value.. as opposed to "ooh.. people died there" type attractions. This can never make the stories more tangible though!
Well, Pompeii isn’t really a tourist attraction in my opinion. It’s basically a museum that educates people about life in Pompeii and what happened when Vesuvius erupted. The actually human remains are also blocked off and the whole place is an archeological sight because it’s still being excavated
I've never heard anyone say Lusitania like Lusi-tah-nia in my entire life, this was so eye-opening for me... also one thing, you forgot to mention that Olympic and Britannic where sister ships of Titanic, just a small nitpick
Great video! However just a heads up but nobody stated the ship was unsinkable until AFTER the ship sank. Newspapers and articles were put out stating the ship was unsinkable due to its size but this was after the ship sank to bring people's attention in. They never stated it was unsinkable prior to the ships demise.
The quote came from a deck hand in Southampton to Sylvia Caldwell, saying that "Not even God could sink that ship." There was talk going around after the Olympic survived the collision with the Hawke, but it was only small talk.
I think one of the reasons that I dislike most film or tv dramatisations of the Titanic is that they feel the need to invent 'dramatic' characters and situations, when there are already more than enough compelling and tragic stories among the real people who survived, or died, that night. One factor in the disaster, that I rarely see mentioned, is that shipping lanes were much quieter than they normally would have been at that time of year. This was due to a coal strike in Britain that had caused many lines to cancel the sailings of smaller liners so they could keep their bigger, and more profitable, ships running. Some passengers on Titanic had been booked on board the Adriatic and Oceanic, and were upgraded to Titanic as compensation for their original sailings being cancelled. Under 'normal' circumstances there would almost certainly have been more ships in the immediate vicinity when she sent her first distress calls. While much is often made of the lack of lifeboats on Titanic, this was normal for the time. Lifeboats of the period were no more than big, open, rowboats, often proving fatal to their occupants in rough seas; one of the many reasons why a lot of Titanic's passengers were unwilling to board them. Their utility was seen more as a means of ferrying passengers to rescue ships, rather than for full-scale evacuation. Ironically, the rush to provide all passenger ships with sufficient lifeboats may have been a contributing factor in the Eastland disaster, adding to the lack of stability in an already top-heavy ship.
one terrifying thing about the sinking of the Titanic is that even if they had enough lifeboats for all passengers and crew, there would've never been enough time to launch them all; the first lifeboat to leave was Lifeboat 7, at 12:40 AM, an hour after the Titanic had started sinking - the first hour taken up by assessing the damage, getting the lifeboats ready for loading, and alerting passengers - and by 2:05 AM, the time the Titanic started sinking rapidly leading to her breakup, there were still 2 lifeboats on the deck, and these two (Collapsibles A and B) ended up floating away as the ship sank beneath them so extra lifeboats would've not helped at all, there was simply no time to launch even the Titanic's 20 lifeboats; it's quite possible extra boats would've made things worse, whether by them breaking loose as the ship sunk and hitting people as they shot up to the surface, or by the psychological impact of people thinking "oh there's plenty of lifeboats left" and not getting a seat when one was available lifeboats back then were not seen by the public and the shipping lines as a means of keeping passengers alive, they were to ferry passengers and crew back and forth between a sinking vessel and rescue ships, with the idea being wireless would make rescue at sea much easier; for the people of 1912 there would be many notable cases of passengers abandoning a sinking ship in lifeboats only to drown because of stormy weather or waves or simply not knowing how to operate a small wooden boat; not to say that White Star was in the right right to not add more lifeboats, but there is a reason why beyond simple arrogance that the regulations didn't require more and why White Star didn't add more even today, the regulations only require enough lifeboats for 75% of passengers and crew at full capacity
Also the fact that lots of lifeboats were launched at half capacity or even less. On one side of the ship, men were denied entry even with no women and children onboard.
I just need you to know your videos are helping me get through my deadlines. Your passion for the people of history is infectious! Thank you for another great video
Interesting fact I've heard about Charles.. some scientists believe now that his body was actually more prone hypothermia because of the alcohol but rather he was able to remain calm and sedated due the alcohol and that's how he was able to survive ... It's a powerful lesson in survival and mindset
After listening to this video and a few others on the titanic. It strikes me that this is world history, no one can truly claim that it’s not. The amount of different people and cultures it impacted is astounding to me
I have not even watched this yet but I have one to share. A family member and I have the name if you wanted it, was in first class and wore his wife's bonnet pretended to be a woman because she wouldn't go without him. My great great grandfather hated him for it knowing children died
@@KazRowe he also was my grandfather's abuser And he told everyone he would meet so also there's some of the disrespect but hold on I will allegedly get his name
Kaz! I just wanna say that I found your channel when I was researching Dracula and I have fallen in love with your method of entertaining/educating people. :) keep doing what you are doing!
This was a wonderful watch and also I have never felt more represented, as a new yorker who gently says “honk honk!” back to the cars every single time I have to restart a take when I’m filming.
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As far as the French orphans, the older of the two boys actually died in 2001. He lived the majority of his life in Montpelier, France and became a professor of philosophy. He was one of two survivors who got to watch the 1997 James Cameron film.
‼️ thank you for letting us know what happened to them! There are so many interesting stories from the Titanic! Like a lifeboat got separated from the other lifeboats in the chaos and everyone assumed it had sunk. And then like 3 years later a lifeboat from the RMS Titanic washed up in like South America with skeletons on board. No one even knew they were missing. I wonder what happened to those people. Did they survive for a while on the boat?;they must have right? They probably lost their oars and so we're unable to stay with the other lifeboats and just drifted farther and farther away. Fighting with each other going crazy with thirst, maybe some cannibalism. The Titanic sinking was so dramatic on its own that basically no one knows about this. The one group of survivors who didn't die in the sinking and died on a lifeboat in the middle of the ocean instead. What were they thinking? They were probably so happy to have survived the sinking at first. Only to slowly realize they only prolonged their own death
@@WhitneyDahlin …no. You’re thinking of Collapsible A, which was one of the last to leave the ship and had to be floated off. Only 13 of the 20 or so aboard survived because it capsized earlier and was damaged, water had been let in and many died of hypothermia. Later that night, Lifeboat 14 rescued the 13 survivors and cut the boat loose with 3 corpses still aboard (the others had been pushed off after they died so the boat wouldn’t capsize again).
Three weeks later, the Oceanic found Collapsible A and collected the 3 dead bodies. No idea where you could possibly get the rest of this information. Especially since the rest of the lifeboats are all accounted for.
@@shutupdave oh crap maybe I'm thinking of another famous sinking? I'm really into maritime disasters so I must have gotten a different sinking mixed up with this one 🤣 sorry thank you for correcting me tho! I will try to find what I'm thinking of and I will come back and update when I do! ❤️
@@WhitneyDahlinoceanliner designs, historic travels, and part-time explorer are channels to get proper information from on ships. Most of everything else, such as channels like brightside are misinformation clickbait channels.
@@WhitneyDahlin update, Whitney?
I have no sources for this, but I once heard of a Titanic employee whose job was to own and care for a cat for pest control on the ship. According to the story, the cat ran away as they were boarding, and by the time the guy found her the boat had already left. When the news about the accident arrived he decided that cat had saved his life and pampered her and her kittens for the rest of their lives out of gratitude.
i sincerely hope this is true bc thats sweet
Awe that is so sweet considering the sad circumstances god bless 😢❤
Charles being too drunk to die is frankly amazing
it's like drunken car crashes. the driver is rarely killed bc of their inebreation
I'd get smashed as hell too if I were convinced that the hourglass had begun counting down the moments 'til my death. That's certainly one way of attempting to accept the startling realization of your own end! ⏳🍺🥴☠️
I don't even drink and I think that's the main lesson I'm taking from this video: in case of disaster, get sloshed 😂
And likely the biggest bs story of the sinking
He was lucky as hell!
My favorite story from the Titanic is of Arthur West. He got his wife and two daughters, one daughter being an infant on to a lifeboat. Then he doubled back saying he had to get something.
His last act before perishing was getting a warm thermos of milk for his daughter. His wife kept the thermos on the mantle for the remainder of their lives.
thanks now i’m crying at work. jesus christ 😭😭😭😭
From the Titanic is Arthur West. He got his wife and there two daughters, one of daughter being an infant on to a lifeboat. Then he doubled back saying he had to get something. His last was getting warm for real life that is so messed up and horrible
@tayloranderson7547 Wait why is that horrible? I think it's sweet that she displayed a symbol of his care for their survival.
@@tayloranderson7547 What...what is this. Is this some joke I'm not AI enough to get??
That's good that he did that. In principle he wouldn't have been eligible to go with them anyway, unless he was a very wealthy man. But smart to use the time the lifeboat was delayed to heat some milk. Interestingly, Thermos were just becoming super fashionable.around that time, so the branding and socio-economic circumstances check out
Seems like early Hollywood had a habit of making films about catastrophic events and hiring survivors to play in them. Armenian Genocide survivor Aurora Mardigian was cast to play herself in the film based on her memories of the genocide, I can only imagine how traumatizing that was. For her, it was a chance to tell the world the truth, but her mental health suffered hugely
i never heard abt her til now!! i will look her up im curious to know who she is
@@melowlw8638 Thanks for your interest! Read carefully please, her experience like any survivor's is horrible
They had (the Hollywood big wigs) a suffering fetish of sorts. It's wild that some people (mainly Turkish and people of Turkish descent) still deny the Armenian genocide when there is lots of evidence even from Turks themselves.
Almost all actors of Verdin movie(except main characters) are veterans of Verdin battle😱
@@terev. thank u!! i will try to be careful
knowing mt sensitivity for anything surrounding death n crimes against humanity i might not dig too deep
One fact about Dorothy Gibson’s Titanic film that has always stuck with me is the fact that she wore the same outfit that she wore DURING THE SINKING. Apparently she was extremely distraught while filming and was experiencing a lot of trauma.
Of course she was! Maybe they didn’t understand trauma back then.
@@Blunsadiesmom They definately didn't understand trauma back then, nowhere near our understanding it now.
I think it's very important to add that Dorothy not only was persuaded by her manager to appear in said film but she also wrote the screenplay for it. Considering this fact, I highly doubt that she was 'forced' to do it. I suspect she wanted to do it, having no idea of the negative impact it could have on her. It was only after putting on the outfit again and reliving everything that the trauma truly hit her.
@@BlunsadiesmomPTSD was only named as PTSD in the 1980s. In the second world war the UKs RAF called it LMF or Lack of Moral Fibre and in the first World War it was known as shell shock, but until the eighties, treatments weren't really looked into properly. Even now a lot of people don't understand trauma, even professionals I've seen tbh.
@marnie9063 especially when it came to women, although I did find some articles about a woman who was put into court because she murdered her child during or after an air raid drill because of trauma from previous ones. I'm probably incredibly off point but either way it's interesting to see how trauma is understood throughout the centuries.
Yeah, I think today we forget that people gave it no attention (mental health) reminds me of Julia Koepcke story. Sort of.
The way the just both went on with their lives
One fascinating thing about the Titanic is the overlooked stories of the many, many Arab passengers on board. Apparently everyone at the time just assumed anyone remotely ethnic-looking was Italian, so the accounts of surviving second and third class passengers of the disaster described virtually everyone they encountered from the Third Class as generic “Italians,” when in fact there were only eleven Italian passengers in third class, vs somewhere between 140 and 165 from the Arab world, who got clocked as Italian steerage passengers in the survivor accounts. Accounts that describe specific lifeboats as “full of Italians” can be matched with the accounts of Arabic-language survivors in those same boats (at the time, the Ottoman Empire had not yet been broken up into the modern countries of the Middle East, so it is easiest to classify these passengers by language). The Dream and the Nightmare: The Story of the Syrians who Boarded the Titanic by Leila Salloum Elias, which draws on passenger lists from Arabic newspapers and oral accounts from Lebanese villages, created a revised account of the number of passengers from the Ottoman Empire left out of English records. If these revised totals are correct, Arab passengers- predominantly Arab Christians from villages in what is now Lebanon- may have been the single largest group by nationality in third class, and the third or fourth largest on board after Brits, Americans and the Irish.
I am NOT saying there was a big intentional conspiracy here to whitewash the Titanic- but it sort of happened accidentally. Most of the survivors whose stories were passed down to us were obviously from the first and second class, so their impressions of who made up the third class have been transmitted down into pop culture. The Titanic was a far more global and international disaster than we often think. I highly recommend Elias' book to anyone with an interest in Titanic scholarship, for a very different international view of the disaster. The survivor accounts are absolutely fascinating.
This is amazing. My family is Christians from Lebanon. I’ll have to look up the book. Thanks for the information.
Thank you for the tip!
For real life is that true
Did not know that. Thank you for adding this information.
Amazing! My family are Christians from Lebanon and I grew up hearing stories about relatives that passed in the Titanic
As a Haitian woman, I'm really grateful that you mentioned that Joseph Laroche was a Haitian man. I knew of his story for several years now, but many people like to only talk about him being black, not about his nationality. 🇭🇹 I love your channel and all the work you put into your videos, I'm always learning something new! ❤
His story made me cry. So happy that all his kids made it out
@@soot9145 This man gave his children life, twice. May his soul rest in blissful peace ❤️
Yea I'm glad to.hear his story
@@soot9145 Same 😢
Ugh his story made me a cry. What a great man. Making sure his baby was above the crowd. 😢
Can I just! All the content creators respecting the strike, mentioning it and not crossing the picket, its just really nice to see
Love to see creatives solidarity!!
I appreciate Kaz bringing it up as well as a filmmaker married to a SAG actor. My question I have (serious one here) is how would Kaz be crossing the picket line? If they’re not a studio themselves, I can imagine that they could work with union folks or ideas as long as they abides by SAGs new proposed contract.
Serious question :) this is one of my favorite channels.
@@DemetriusWren sag aftra have published some policies and requests for influencers and content creators on how they can support, including not posting anything related to struck content. I dont have a link in my clipboard but theyre spreading it online which im sure will come onto yours and your partners feeds soon but i just googled earlier because of a different influencer announcing a change in their content as it wouldve involved struck content
@@DemetriusWren as I understand it, SAG-AFTRA has asked content creators to cease putting out content about films and other media that's tied into their strike and negotiations. Sounds like the vid Kaz is holding back falls in that category so if they were to put it up they would be crossing the picket line.
Literally paused at 0:39 to come say exactly this!!! I love Kaz for this fr. Everybody respecting the strike is just. UGH. SOLIDARITY. That's what we need.
When I was in the 6th grade, right when Titanic mania hit. My computer teacher brought in a special guest; her grandmother, who was a child on the Titanic. It was mind boggling hearing her first hand experiences of that night, mostly of being cold and scared.
Great video, but as a former field medic I feel obliged to correct the story about the drunk guy. Alcohol expands blood vessels, making you feel warmer for a bit, but drastically quickening the effects of hypothermia.
If he survived, what kept him warm was likely a mix of body fat, muscle, and the body heat from 2 hours of continuous paddling. Drinking alcohol 100% hurts your chances of surviving in extreme cold
He likely wasn’t in the water for two hours. Men who had been in the water thought they were in it for much longer than they thought because of how torturous it was and they didn’t have a way to tell time. According to On A Sea of Glass, the temperature of the water would kill people in 15 minutes (-2 degrees celsius). He probably was only in it for a few minutes before reaching Collapsible B.
@@shutupdave I looked him up and read an article about him from the National Post. He was indeed in the water for a long time. He was one of the last in the water (at 2:20 am), but he didn't get out until the first light of dawn helped him locate collapsible B. It wouldn't have started to get light until 4 or 5 in the morning.
According to some experts on cold survival interviewed for the article, the cold of the water would have caused his blood vessels to contract, counteracting the expanding effect of the alcohol (though they still don't recommend alcohol as a shipwreck or cold survival tactic lol). They also claim that in the water conditions faced by the Titanic, the average adult will go numb in about 10 minutes and it could be over an hour before their heart stops. They suspect (as @shutupdave also said) that his calm, constant paddling likely slowed the cooling of his body, allowing him to survive even longer.
The article concludes that the alcohol probably did save him, because it reduced the effects of the cold shock of hitting the water, and kept him calm so that he could figure out a way to get out of the water. Many people's panicked behavior caused them to drown or freeze faster, staying calm is key. Not to victim blame or anything though. I would also panic in the same situation, it's a pretty reasonable response that is not easy to control.
But yeah, the idea that the alcohol in his blood stream stopped him from freezing is definitely not the case.
thank you for this, it was bothering me 😅
I just read Dead Wake (a book about the sinking of the Lusitania) and it said that passengers who recently drank alcohol had a high percentage of dying despite the saying of alcohol making your body warm. I was confused by this part of the video.
Oh thank goodness I'm overweight if I ever go on a ship lol 😆
For anyone wondering, the countess of Rothes was in the movie. She was introduced early on, but she’s also the one that came out of her room and said “excuse me, why have the engines stopped? I felt a shudder” and the steward responds “I shouldn’t worry madam, we’ve likely thrown a propeller blade. That’s the shudder you felt. May I bring you anything?”
Lmao - yesssss I totally remembered that too, hell yeah
The Titanic wreckage is an underwater grave and should be treated and respected as such and not treated as simply a tourist attraction. Caitlin Doughty of Ask a Mortician here on RUclips did a great video on underwater graves a couple *years ago.
God, a collab would be heavenly.
The one on the Fitzgerald?
That one was an eye opener to me
Caitlin's underwater graves video was 3 years ago...she did one 8 months ago but that was on the legality of water cremation
Could you tell me wich video it is?
I love Caitlin so much. These two should def collab on something
The idea that alcohol consumption warms the body is a myth; consuming alcohol can cause the skin to flush with blood and create the illusion of warmth, but this draws blood out of deeper tissue within the body somewhat and so could actually make you colder. Charles' intoxication aided him moreso that it dulled his senses and protected him from shock, allowing him to maintain movement as he treaded water which staved off him freezing to death. This may also explain why he felt warmer in the water; he was no longer treading water once in the boat and so was not warmed by his physical activity.
Also I heard that he wasn't actaully in the water for
Two hours ...a mixture of him being drunk and the shocking cold water had vaguely distorted his sense of time as one survivor who was in the water quoted saying " the water was so cold it felt like I was in it for hours but it had only been 15 or 20 mins.😢❤🙏
@@HeisenbergVintageHe would be lucky to live so long, and he had no threatening injuries and lived a long life.
I got all the more respect for the tragedy of the Titanic after learning about the sinking of the S.S. Arctic.
The Arctic was a ship that suffered a huge collision, in 1853, and as it began to sink, the captain, the stewardesses and some of the tripulation fought in vain to have the female passengers and children into the life boats. Every time, the male passengers and some men in the tripulation would overun the women and children, throw them into the sea and destroy the boats fighting to get abord.
A young sailor tried in vain to sign for help, and when the captain asked him to give up and try to save himself, answered: "Tell them that when the time came, at least one man remained at his post". He died there.
Meanwhile, the stewardesses kept the water pumps that the crew had abandoned manually working for as far as they could to give the others a chance, their hands cut and bruised bleeding profusely. They all died there, too.
During the last hours, the captain and the remaining passengers couldn't do anything to try and save anyone, because they spent their entire time fighting the MANY men who turned into sexually assaulting the women aboard during the sinking, many of which has been left by fathers and husbands who had taken the boats.
The captain lost his entire family in those last monents.
When the few survivors (no woman or children) were finally rescued, it was a HUGE scandal and those who had survived by overtaking the boats, as soon as they learned there had been surviving witnesses, booked away to Canada.
There is a reason "women and children first" being (mostly) respected during the sinking of the Titanic is such a big deal.
women and children first is actually a myth of movie making…
From Oceanliner Design's video? I love his stuff.
It may be a symptom of perhaps my extreme cynicism or just all the true crime I have read about, but I have to admit that THIS is a lot more what I would expect aboard your average ship sinking at the time (or even now).
First time I have heard the word tripulation used by a living person.
Means crew btw.
ok N0W I am crying
I expected you to include Masabumi Hosono, the only Japanese survivor of the Titanic. He had been prepared to die on board when a call went out from one lifeboat that there was room. He got in and survived, only to be vilified in his home country for nor dying honorably in the sinking. The rest of his life, he was called a coward and was pretty miserable.
Funny enough, his grandson would end up becoming one of the godfathers of synthpop.
That's... Sad
The parents doing what they could to save their children hit me the hardest. I'm not crying, you're crying. I don't even want to imagine how hard it was for the parents that knew they couldn't do anything.
Something about rich billionaires dying due to their obsessive need to see a shipwreck where a bunch of underprivileged and poor people died is truly ironic
My ancestor was on a titanic, he left London to go move to be with his parents. He was a second class passenger and was only on the titanic because the st.Louis was too late in booking. He was on life boat number 9! This is a letter he wrote of his experience “I jumped up, put on light clothing and went up on deck. The steam was blowing with a deafening noise. I did not see the iceberg myself. I talked to the officers and the Captain ordered us to get the ladies. I ran down, got more clothing and went to Miss Wright. She had got up and was out on the deck. There were no more women to go and I asked the officer if there was any objection to my going in that boat. He said ‘No, get in’ and I was the last one in. I think it was the third from the last to go on that side. It was No. 9 and we had to get away fast. Besides other boats going down there was danger from the sinking boat. I cannot describe the sinking in any other way than to say that it was like the noise from a football field, not loud like a shout of victory, but hushed as though there was canvas over it... There were two loud noises as she went down. It was like as if all the cargo went from one side of the ship to the other all at once. It may have been bursting of the boilers or the vessel breaking itself in two. I don’t know. It seemed to me that we all should go down. As she sank I saw her looming up more clearly just as on a lantern slide when they are bringing a picture into focus.”
He was lucky, very few men in second class survived.
It's fascinating that he speculated about it breaking in two, when it was only discovered Decades later that this is what actually did happen
@@ADreamingPoet Approximately 1/7 of the survivors testified they saw the ship break apart.
@@giovannirastrelli9821 after he the titanic and went to college some werid college cult branded hit forehead with a cross and disfigured him I think he would’ve been better off dying 😭
Wow that's amazing, thank you for sharing it!!
Another minor fact from the movie. If you remember the scene where the woman jumps into a lifeboat and misses, then gets pulled back onto the deck, she was based on a real passenger who was able to jump again and landed in Lifeboat #10
I find learning about the people on the Titanic so interesting, even if it is horribly depressing. I think it's important to learn about tragedies like these.
agreed. as depressing and horrible as it can be, i enjoy learning about the people involved in tragedies. we all know about the titanic, WWII, 9/11 etc. but what is almost never covered is the human element - we know how many people died or survived, but each one of those people had a life and it was either snuffed out or changed forever. you aren't likely to read about that in a history book or hear about it in a documentary, so i commend creators who share that same passion and pass those stories along. it keeps the memory of those involved alive and makes it an actual event that happened to actual people rather than just a headline or a script for a novel or movie.
Yes, this is the history that fascinates me, the history of people rather than peoples, personal battles, not wars. Stories of individuals can tell you so much more about a time and place than dry as dust history we were taught in school.
I remember another crazy story about the only Japanese passenger on the Titanic. After a steward woke him up, Masabumi Hosono was blocked from the deck cause the person thought he was a 3rd class passenger. He ended up making it to the deck and into a lifeboat, ultimately surviving. Sad thing is, people made up stories about him (he was a stowaway on the lifeboat, he dressed as a woman to get on) causing him to be publicly condemned in the US. He ended up losing his job for a bit because of the stowaway accusation (the disguise accusation wasn’t reported in Japan), but he got his job back and worked there until he died in 1939
EDITED to fix the autocorrect “public ally” to “publicly”. Apologies for any confusion
"public ally"!!?? OMG your ignorance is hilarious!!!😂😂😂
@@skate103 fixed the spelling my dude. It was supposed to say “publicly” not public ally. My apologies for typing quick and not checking my autocorrect and making sure stuff was spelled right on mobile
You may be conflating this with “The Six” - six Chinese sailors that were sailing to jobs in Cuba 3rd class. Those stories were told about them and there were not let into the USA because of the Chinese exclusion act.
The Japanese diplomat was condemned in Japan for surviving- it was considered shameful. He wasn’t the only one either - many men in the aftermath had to justify their existence.
@@PJKubek I’ve never heard about “The Six” before. That’s pretty interesting.
@@skate103some people are not native speakers and to make fun of someones grammer to me is low brow type of joke. Please next time think about that before you post a comment like this. If there are any grammar mistakes I'm sorry but I am not a native english speaker.
"Possibly my favorite Titanic survivor, a normal thing to have..." 😂😂
Coal fires on ships at the time were a pretty common occurrence, the ships were after all carrying thousands of tons of the stuff. The story of the fire wasn't covered up by the White Star Line as it wasn't even worth writing about before the disaster. Coal fires also weren't raging infernos threatening to engulf ships in flames, they were usually small sections of smoldering coal which could be contained very easily. Also regarding the smudge on the hull, it only appears in 2 photos of the ship when she is very close to the shore and since Titanic was a brand new ship the fresh coats of paint on her hull would've been very reflective. The smudge is therefore a reflection of the shore.
When it comes to Louis and Lola we do actually know who they were and what happened to them after the sinking. Their real names were Michel and Edmond Navratil, they were 3 and 2 years old respectively. After their return to France with their mother they lived a pretty happy life, Michel went to university and became a professor of psychology, while Edmond became an architect and interior designer. In the Second World War Edmond joined the French Army, but was captured as a prisoner of war. He managed to escape, though he sadly died aged only 43 in 1953 from poor health as a result of his time as a prisoner. Michel on the other hand lived a very long life and died in 2001 at the of 92, he was the last male Titanic survivor.
Fascinating! Thank you for sharing!
wow! that is wild
Too add to this, it's believed that the fire actually helped the ship stay stable during the sinking. The coal fire was in a starboard bunker, and the stokers shifted hundreds of tons to port to put out the fire, actually causing a tilt to the port side.
During a sinking, a ship will usually sink downward and towards the source of the water. According to sinking simulations, if the coal were level in the bunker, the ship likely would've capsized, but it stayed level thanks to the massive shifted weight
@@DanTheManCalteryes, incredible isn't it?? Could have been so much worse if she hadn't started out at a 3° list to port
@@ChickVicious237 it's so remarkable how many small nuances ended up playing such a large role in the entire event. A microcosm of tragedies and mini miracles
Fun fact about me, the titanic was my hyper fixation growing up. For some reason i really loved learning about it. I'd love to hear more stories i absolutely loved them!
as an argentinian, as soon as i heard about violet jessop i become obsessed, i bought her autobiography and i CANNOT recommend it enough, its so well written and alluring,literally impossible to put down, i loved this video and im so happy you mentioned her!!
One story that I learned about and real hits home how badly some people suffered was the Addergoole Fourteen. Fourteen men and women from the same Irish Parish were going to America with hopes of getting jobs. Only a few women survived and paid pennies by white star while they were in hospital and to dazed to understand what was happening to fully consent to the papers they were signing(they were just told to sign here over and over so they believed it was medical papers so they signed). Their descendants have said they never spoke of the Titanic and when one did she said the screams haunted her every night. The parish suffered the hardest as they were small and everyone lost a family or friend. Their was a documentary I saw and if you like up the Addergoole Fourteen you'll find it
There's a ceremony the village do every year I saw it on the documenty very beautiful
I used to work at the exhibit in Orlando. Theres a ton of fun things that are never touched upon by the dramatic movies retelling the sinking. Thank you for making this video.
I think I went to that one! I like how the ticket gives you a background of someone on the ship. Then all the names of the victims at the end and you check for your name. I was shocked that most of the people who died were workers on the ship.
@@haleymist09i think the exposition im working at right now is the one you guys are talking about! its in paris right now, i got to see it on my break it was pretty good
The drunk man who survived didn't survive due to being kept warm by the alcohol it actually makes the body more susceptible to hypothermia. I think the reason he survived is because he was so drunk he was able to stay calm. Most people panic being thrown into freezing water making them more likely to drown.
My favorite survivor story is that of Frank Goldsmith. When he grew up he moved to Detroit across the street from Tiger Stadium. He could never go outside during a game because the cheering crowd reminded him of the screams of the people in the water.
i've heard that mentioned from a lot of survivors or their families - we're desensitized to it because of hollywood, but in 1912 this was severely traumatizing for many people. they had never heard people screaming for help, seen someone injured or die in front of them, felt many of the emotions or sensations that were experienced that night. the memory of those hours stayed with many of the survivors, with one of the most common being the noise of large crowds acting as a trigger for them so many left the larger cities and moved to quieter areas.
Well one survivor (from a comment) said it sounded like a stadium cheering except covered with a canvas. (From parts of the ship exploding)
that’s your *favorite*?
The coal fire wasn't mysterious or covered up. These ships carried thousands of tons of coal and small fires were quite common. The fire on the Titanic was monitored and maintained by the ship's crew and never posed any real threat to the ship. The smudge in the photo is much more likely to be wet paint and its location on the hull is nowhere near any of her coal bunkers. Also, the White Star Line did not heavily publicize the ship as unsinkable. She was described as "practically unsinkable" in a builder's magazine published by a third party but that's pretty much it. Confidence in ships like the Titanic was at an all-time high and making a claim like that would be sort of weird since passengers generally weren't that concerned about the ship's safety. It would be kind of like American Airlines doing an ad campaign in 2023 calling their planes "uncrashable".
Yours was the post I was looking for! Especially the “unsinkable” part, it has been added by history - I guess it ties a neat bow of irony over the whole tragedy. I always find it weird, when history channels stumble over this.
The Titanic is more than just a ship that had sunken down to the deepest depths of the ocean. It was a valuable artifact that can never be retrieved to the surface, but will always remain within the vastness of the waters. We know just how historical value these olden transportations have.
not always. its rotting away yo
@@TheMelorinoHave you watched the real time video on the sinking of the Titanic?
Due to his aerodynamics, it DRAMATICALLY increased in speed as it sank and it crashed at the bottom of the sea at a HUGE speed, so imagine a humongous truck at impossible speed crashing head on with a mountain. Not much would remain intact.
Most of the Titanic was utterly crushed on impact, whole floors pancaked, so it is important as an artifact of sinking ships and sunken ship decay histories, not really as a time capsule, which it ceased to be as soon as it hit the ocean floor.
If bacteria poop counts as remaining in the water then yes. It's a real feast for the harmonias titanicaes
@@edisonlima4647parts of it are still kinda intact, people enjoy it cause its old and looks pretty and it got even more intrigue because of the disaster
@@edisonlima4647 the part in front got some rooms like the turkish bath still intact, the pool is like that too probably, still sealed. Is the half of the back that got the worst cause of an implosion while drowing. But yeah mostly all of the rooms etc will be burried and lost anyway in some years.
I have a suggestion for a future video! Wouldn't it be interesting to get to see how children drew back in the victorian/edwardian era? I have recently searched for children's art from the past, and thought it would be interesting if you compile to us some of their drafts, drawings, and even their calligraphy. I very much appreciate your content! Thanks a lot!
Another random story of the Titanic includes 24 year old, Ann Elizabeth Isham who borded the ship with her great dane and when the ship started sinking she denied getting off because she didn't want to leave her dog
Aww I saw a video recently about the dogs on board, luckily there weren't too many, about 12 or so, and most larger breeds died unfortunately. I believe it was something like 3 Pomeranians survived only because their owners were woman who hid them under their coats as they boarded the life boats, I think one of them might have even disguised them as a bundled up baby in order to bring them on board. ❤
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She never owned a dog, there was a passenger who owned a Great Dane apparently but it wasn’t Ann Elizabeth Isham. People only started saying that because we have no idea where she was when the ship went down
"My favorite Titanic survivor --a normal thing to have..." One of the most relatable things I have ever heard. 😂
The amount of lifeboats onboard really didn't change the Disaster that much surprisingly. If she had carried the required 50 odd lifeboats for everyone on board what would have happened was the Titanic would have gone down with 30 odd still tied down to the ship.
They only just about floated off the last two of 20 just as the ship plunged. To have used more you'd have to change a lot more about the ship, added a PA system etc.
The Public Adress System was at that time really new technology. First large scale installation was at Comisky Park in Chicago (Illinois, US) in 1913. Agreed though. That would've definitely helped out immeasurably.
A PA system would have helped, but only so much. Many of the passengers couldn't speak English, especially in the third class. Signage using easily interpreted images nudging passengers towards where to go in an emergency and posting maps of the ship would have been been super helpful, though, and are safety precautions we use now.
It wouldn't have sank so fast without the flawed bulkhead design. If it were designed better, they might have needed those extra 30 boats in this event.
Yes, Titanic simply did not have the time to get all the boats off. People often point to Britannic but forget that she was made with the hindsight of the loss of her sister and had much better davits installed to allow multiple boats.
I wrote a really long comment about this on another video, but it's just as you said--there really was not enough time to launch that many extra boats. They basically launched 15 of the 18 launchable boats within a 65 minute time period! Boats 7-5-3 between 12:40 and 12:55, and then the remaining 15 between 1:00am and 2:05am. The ship didn't even sink for another 15 minutes but there wasn't any time at all to get Collapsible A & B onto davits. So basically they had 65 minutes to launch 15 boats. Then you have to factor in the time it takes to get boats loaded and launched--around 5-6 minutes to lower. Then you have to think about the fact that of the crew of around 900, only about 55 were actually sailors! The rest were stewards, restaurant/kitchen staff, stokers, etc. If you had 25 lifeboats, you'd only be able to put two sailors in per lifeboat. Not to mention, who is supposed to lower that last lifeboat? Do you have deck crew lower and then they jump overboard and hope for the best??
The collapsibles couldn't be launched until boats 1 and 2 were lowered--I think the emergency boat davits were much smaller than the standard boats, so the collapsibles HAD to be launched from those davits only. Lifeboat 1 was launched at 1:05 but they didn't launch Collapsible C until nearly 2:00am, over an hour later! By then of course it was way too late for Collapsible A to be launched.
The ship was designed to hold over 50 lifeboats, not required, but the line decided that was too many for aesthetic reasons. The number of lifeboats was determined by the tonnage of the vessel and not passenger numbers at that time which was regulated by the Board of Trade which, given the Titanic's weight, was not that many lifeboats. The line decided to go with only 20 instead of how many passengers were on board as they thought that more lifeboats would 'block the best views of the ocean' by the passengers. Sad deal all around as even with 20 fully loaded, there would not have been enough room to hold everyone on board.
Further information that wasn't mentioned in the segment about Violet Constance Jessup. The Britannic was actually the third and final ship of the Olympic class of ships commissioned by The White Star Line, meaning she had been on the Olympic when it crashed, and both the Titanic and Britannic when they sank. That was the real significance and insane coincidence of her story.
the two boys who were kidnapped by their dad, one Michel became a professor of philosophy he was also the oldest surviving male titanic survivor ding in 2002. the other Edmond died in 1953. I don't understand why you ended their story by saying "we've never hear about them since" I found this by simply googling Titanic orphans
Yeah that was a really perplexing way to end that story. Theirs is probably one of the most well known passenger stories, certainly the most well known stories of second class passengers! It would've taken no more than that simple search you mentioned to find more, since they were the only children to survive without a parent/guardian!
Tbh, I turned it off after that, because there are plenty of easily-accessible resources saying what happened afterward. No shade to the creator, I like her & she clearly works hard. It just irked me a bit, suggesting she possibly used one resource that wrongly claimed the boys’ story ended there, but seemingly she didn’t check up on it herself, which made me not really want to hear the rest.
The guy just kind of messing around and getting drunk until he just kind of sank into the water is my favorite
Charles is like the Brazilian people: works meanwhile tragedy strikes.
Also, i loved the Unsinkable Woman and Joseph's story is so sad, because imagine going with your family to anywhere else and during this, the thing where you are is having problems, and you are obligated to letting your beloved ones while you're dying.
I am glad you said that about Charles. 6 months ago, a man fell over board on a cruise line ship while going to the bathroom. He was in the water for 48 hours or more before the coast guard found him.
However, the length of time in the water is what amazed me. After some digging into the story, the guy hand no idea how he got into the water from one of the upper decks. The reason why he had no knowledge of the whole incident until he woke up in a body of dark water....him and his sister were partying at the bar-got heavily drunk. He survived as well because of all the alcohol he had.
Charles's story is actually a pretty common occurrence of people behaving normally in catastrophic events.
True. Hence passengers on crashed aircrafts trying to get their carry-ons out if the overhead lockers. These people are not calous but are trying to get back control.
I am normally anxiety-ridden by normal daily occurrences, however in emergency or high stress situations, I am inexplicably calm & rational. It’s like a “no bullshit” part of my brain takes over.
he reminded me of my sims treading water in a pool after i take the steps out
Hey, hate to be that guy, but alcohol expands capillaries in your extremities, making you feel warmer while your body is breaking it down, but this stops your body from conserving it for your major organs. You feel warmer, but you will absolutely freeze faster. Probs the consistency of his exertion while having to trwad for hours helped raise his core temp vs sitting in a boat, but certainly alcohol did not. Not panicking is helpful to not expend extra energy/bodily resources as well. Still a legend, but alcohol will not help you in the extreme exposure to cold. It is quite counterproductive. Just so people know if you ever face a terrible situation where this would come up.
Correction on the "we never heard of them since..." part of the Waifs of the Sea:
The older of the boys, Michel, was actually the last male Titanic survivor. Dude has his own Wikipedia page. Also, the pictures taken of him and his baby brother look so damn cute.
Yes, I'm pretty confused about what source was used for this video because the story of the Navratils is pretty well known and has been for decades! Almost anyplace you look that mentions them would give their real names. Actually there is a really good historical fiction book about their parents called Orphans of the Storm where the author did a TON of research into the parents and discovered some previously unknown information she included in the book.
@@piratesswoop725yeah even just a google search of ‘navratil titanic’ would show what happened to them.
This young woman is highly articulate and educated.She is enjoyable to listen to and demonstrates great empathy towards others! Great job! Keep it up!😊😊😊😊
Ooh! My favorite Titanic story is the fact that the baker survived while being completely piss drunk. If i had to survive a shipwreck, i want to do it drunk as hell 😂
Charles Joughin! Dude rode the stern down like it was an elevator! He said that his hair didn't even get wet! Love him! Got to live a decently Long life too. Passed away in Patterson New Jersey at 78.
max miller from tasting history did videos on titanic food n he is mentioned!!
@melowlw8638 I've seen it! I love Max and i love this baker 😂
@@talosheeg and dont we all!!
Learning about stories like these truly allows us to understand there are to the statistics, these were actual people with actual lives. I hope the people who lost their lives had found peace. Love your video Kaz ❤
Joseph’s story is so heartbreaking. I had never heard it before. Thank you so much for the video. ❤
it gets even more heartbreaking - after his death, his widow never let her daughters out of her sight. they never married and until they died, juliette and her two daughters all slept in the same bed every night so they would never be separated again. this is the human element of the titanic, and tragedy in general, that they don't tell you in movies or wikipedia, and it's a small but crucial detail a lot of us don't think about.
very off topic but you are absolutely beautiful and I can tell you have an old soul and thank you for being respectful with the history it's amazing to see people around my age still caring with how they portray themselves as an influencer, your a good role model and I'm subscribing now 🖤🖤
Yay Kaz is back! As a fellow enby history nerd I love these video essays. Titanic is surrounded by a lot of stories and almost always the real stories are the most interesting ones. The ship is in such a place that it's taken 40-50 years of even to unravel most of the story which had partly lost to time. Like James Cameron and people around him did most of the "heavy lifting" for the movie research and have been down there a couple times after that too.
1:48 I feel bad for the son who only went to spend time with his dad 😢
joseph’s story made me cry (which i wasn’t expecting to happen while making my coffee!!) as sad as their story is, he made sure his family got to safety, which i think is the best to hope for in that situation. i wonder if he was thinking about his chances of getting on a boat while he was getting them ready, given the fact he was a man and black. it’s heartbreaking. thank you for sharing these!!!
Your content is some of the highest tier on RUclips. Not only do I appreciate your personal style, smarts, and delivery, but all of the atmospheric details and decisions that create a distinct signature yet miraculously on-point vibe. Modern historians like you are doing groundbreaking work to begin filling the holes we’ve dug ourselves into and speaking truth. It’s changing society in an impactful way, and I know I can rely on you as a creator with consistency. A+
Another person who died on the Titanic was mystery writer Jacques Futrelle. I read his book of short stories when I was a teenager, and it had an introduction that talked about it, and said that several unpublished stories went down on the ship with him.
I'll definitely go watch that episode, I LOVE art nouveau decor!
His wife May Futrelle’s story was on a Sea of Glass. Jacques told her to leave him because he wouldn’t get on a boat even when she insisted. She left to “go die somewhere else” when Officer James Moody saw her, grabbed her and basically dragged her to a nearby lifeboat (#9) while she protested. She proved to be a Titanic fanatic, saying she could talk about the sinking for hours and kept track of which lifeboats her fellow first class passengers got into which confused historians who tried to place her in her own lifeboat but struggled because she kept talking about other people’s stories like a reporter.
The call-out for Puppet History made me so happy. The song at the end of that episode will haunt me forever
Thank you for making this video! I've always been interested in the history of the Titanic, but it wasn't till recently that the human side of it had more of an impact on me. In 2021, my husband and I went to Catalina Island for our 1st year wedding anniversary and the museum there had an exhibit on the ship. It was focused more on the people who were on the Titanic vs the tragedy itself, and talked about the people who worked on the Titanic and lesser known passengers. It showed letters that were written by people that had their hopes, dreams, and well wishes to others on it. It truly drilled home the human aspect of the event, and the only reason why these letters survived is because of the mail clerks making it their priority to ensure these letters and documents got off the ship before it sank. Sadly, none of the clerks survived.
Also, if anyone is interested, Tasting History with Max Miller did a series of videos on the food that was served on the final trip of the Titanic. He also covers the stories of the cooks and other workers on the ship, including Charles Joughin.
I get that it's different from your average graveyard since it was a catastrophe, but I still get wanting to see it, especially since what's left of the ship is being eaten away.
Well my Monday just got a whole lot better! 😄
same, yay Kaz!!
If I was facing an agonizing death my first instinct would also be to get heroically drunk.
josephs story is so beautifully tragic, thank you for sharing stories like these
The sailor who kept in touch with the countess of rothes actually went to the lifeboats that were docked after the sinking and removed the plaque from his and the countess's lifeboat to present to her for her heroism and courage in the face of disaster.
The number of life boats wasn’t really the problem. There were life boats left when it completely sunk. With the slow start evacuation and how long it took to actually release a life boat, there was no way to many other people could have survived. James Cameron has made a full scientific trial video to prove and explain this.
Agreed, obviously more would have been better, but the first several life boats launched were almost empty because no one wanted to leave the warmth of the ship.
1:40 I just felt so bad for the kid who didn’t want to be there but his father made him go.
There’s a story (possibly an urban legend) of a couple named the Blenkhorns who were supposed to have a honeymoon cruise on the Titanic but their wedding party ran long. They moved to Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada where they met their demise when an f4 or f5 tornado struck the city in the summer of 1912.
Final Destination strikes again.
My great-great aunt was a third class passenger on the Titanic! She was about 16 years old and travelling from Ireland to New York in search of work. She ended up surviving and lived in New York for roughly a decade, saving up the money to return home and marry her boyfriend. I can’t imagine the fear she must have felt going on a ship again after the tragedy but even though I never knew her I feel so so much pride whenever I remember her story ❤️
The last story had me nearly in tears. I couldn't imagine being there with the love of my life and losing everything so suddenly like that.
I love you walking around talking about history while also doing “in-studio” shots to add to the story, it gives me very ‘Absolute History’ vibes
All the stories were very interesting and told with a soothing tone and empathy . Thank you for Joseph's story his story isn't regaled that often .
I appreciate your voice and tone so much. I get very overstimulated very easily and I’ve come to find you’re the one I watch the most when I need to relax ❤
i love weird stories!!
i work in a kinda famous museum rn and i always make sure to tell ppl the best anecdote i have about the woman the exhibition we r hosting is abt (sarah bernhardt who coincidentally kaz most likely knows since shes herself a visual icon of the art nouveau style,, of mucha's work in particular who i discovered today also did a portrait of maud adams!! the world of famous ppl seems small) n they r always rly surprised
cant wait to use this video as anecdote content for me to tell others 😎😎
edit: i love the coincidence that simone louise and their mother ended up on the same rescue boat as the countess,, thats kind of neat i guess
Around 4:13, A problem. The Titanic was never claimed to be "Unsinkable". It was "Practicaly Unsinkable" or as safe as they can make it at the time.
Only 1 ever newspaper ever stated "unsinkable"
Watching this video on a ship next to the muster stations. The ones I’m on has life boats meant for 123 but can fit 223 in the event not all lifeboats work. Crazy that this cautionary tale is why we have so many spots
Thanks for the shoutout, Kaz, and thanks again for hosting A Style Is Born. We're learning so much!
Josephs story is so heartbreaking, if only he was one of the survivors :'(
Great mood lighting. Video has a 1940s to 1950s reporter getting into the Titanic in the most respectful way possible. Great job!
The movie Titanic always makes me cry and I used to think I was weird for that. But the event itself is so catastrophic and terrifying. There is such beauty and sadness in every person’s personal story on that ship, thanks for sharing some!
Hi there. Love you content. As a medical professional, i find the story about the man surviving hypothermia due to alcohol quite dubious.
Alcohol makes you *feel* warm because it opens your blood vessels letting warm blood flood your skin and extremities; however, if you're in a hypothermia situation, that's the exact OPPOSITE of what you want. You want your body to keep your warm blood in the most vital parts of your body and shielded as much as possible from the cold closer to the surface of your skin.
Yeah, Joughin claimd to have paddled in the water over two hours before hanging out near Collapsible B until it was discovered by boats 4 and 12 at 4am. But he claimed to have gone down with the ship, and there were less than two hours between the time the ship sank and the time Collapsible B's survivors were rescued by boats 4 and 12. I think what is most likely is that after the ship sank, he paddled over to Collapsible B and climbed aboard. No way was he in the water for 2 hours.
I was wondering about that story! Thanks for clarifying things.
Great video Kaz.. a few inaccuracies but I enjoyed it very much. As for the lighthouse memorial reference... Lighthouses were originally meant to warn ships of potential danger (as you all know) but also to lead them home safely and to be that 'beacon of hope', as it were, and I believe that is the point of the lighthouse.. Please come home safely or safe voyage for your final destination.
Titanic was never marketed as "unsinkable" it was marketed as "nearly unsinkable" and while it did not have enough life boats for the souls on board, studies have shown it would not have made much of a difference. The ship sank too quickly to get all passengers in boats as it was, in fact the last few boats were simply thrown into the water as the ship sank into the ocean for people to try to hold onto.
Personally, I absolutely adore this casual approach, along with the gorgeous window lighting. It's up to you, I'll watch anyway, but this I highly enjoyed this episode !
Car-pay-thee-yah. Sorry it's the only thing bugging me here. Brilliant work. I so love the story of the baker. I was overjoyed to see a tidbit of him in the Titanic movie.
I'm curious. It has been said that the Titanic as a site of mass death shouldn't be a tourist attraction. That said, what are peoples thoughts on other sites such as the ruins of Pompeii?
I think it's like Kaz said.. its sterile/intangible where as we have so much testimony, including recorded interviews, from survivors.
If you go to the site of a modern tragedy the atmosphere tends to be sombre and reflective. The difference with the colosseum or pompeii is striking!
I think where sites can be well managed there is immense educational value.. as opposed to "ooh.. people died there" type attractions. This can never make the stories more tangible though!
Well, Pompeii isn’t really a tourist attraction in my opinion. It’s basically a museum that educates people about life in Pompeii and what happened when Vesuvius erupted. The actually human remains are also blocked off and the whole place is an archeological sight because it’s still being excavated
I am also a Puppet History fan, Kaz! People are sleeping on it. Shane is very talented.
Love me some puppet history as well!
I've never heard anyone say Lusitania like Lusi-tah-nia in my entire life, this was so eye-opening for me... also one thing, you forgot to mention that Olympic and Britannic where sister ships of Titanic, just a small nitpick
Great video! However just a heads up but nobody stated the ship was unsinkable until AFTER the ship sank. Newspapers and articles were put out stating the ship was unsinkable due to its size but this was after the ship sank to bring people's attention in. They never stated it was unsinkable prior to the ships demise.
She wasn't marketed as unsinkable, someone was just quoted as saying she was as unsinkable as a ship can be.
it was only called unsinkable after it sank
@@Sputterbug yep!
The quote came from a deck hand in Southampton to Sylvia Caldwell, saying that "Not even God could sink that ship." There was talk going around after the Olympic survived the collision with the Hawke, but it was only small talk.
I have been to the Molly Brown House here in Denver. She is a Titanic survivor. Her house is a museum now.
I think one of the reasons that I dislike most film or tv dramatisations of the Titanic is that they feel the need to invent 'dramatic' characters and situations, when there are already more than enough compelling and tragic stories among the real people who survived, or died, that night.
One factor in the disaster, that I rarely see mentioned, is that shipping lanes were much quieter than they normally would have been at that time of year. This was due to a coal strike in Britain that had caused many lines to cancel the sailings of smaller liners so they could keep their bigger, and more profitable, ships running. Some passengers on Titanic had been booked on board the Adriatic and Oceanic, and were upgraded to Titanic as compensation for their original sailings being cancelled. Under 'normal' circumstances there would almost certainly have been more ships in the immediate vicinity when she sent her first distress calls.
While much is often made of the lack of lifeboats on Titanic, this was normal for the time. Lifeboats of the period were no more than big, open, rowboats, often proving fatal to their occupants in rough seas; one of the many reasons why a lot of Titanic's passengers were unwilling to board them. Their utility was seen more as a means of ferrying passengers to rescue ships, rather than for full-scale evacuation. Ironically, the rush to provide all passenger ships with sufficient lifeboats may have been a contributing factor in the Eastland disaster, adding to the lack of stability in an already top-heavy ship.
Honestly I've just found your channel and the tone and fluidity of your voice is absolutely beautiful ✨ as a neurospicey person it's so soothing 🥰
one terrifying thing about the sinking of the Titanic is that even if they had enough lifeboats for all passengers and crew, there would've never been enough time to launch them all; the first lifeboat to leave was Lifeboat 7, at 12:40 AM, an hour after the Titanic had started sinking - the first hour taken up by assessing the damage, getting the lifeboats ready for loading, and alerting passengers - and by 2:05 AM, the time the Titanic started sinking rapidly leading to her breakup, there were still 2 lifeboats on the deck, and these two (Collapsibles A and B) ended up floating away as the ship sank beneath them
so extra lifeboats would've not helped at all, there was simply no time to launch even the Titanic's 20 lifeboats; it's quite possible extra boats would've made things worse, whether by them breaking loose as the ship sunk and hitting people as they shot up to the surface, or by the psychological impact of people thinking "oh there's plenty of lifeboats left" and not getting a seat when one was available
lifeboats back then were not seen by the public and the shipping lines as a means of keeping passengers alive, they were to ferry passengers and crew back and forth between a sinking vessel and rescue ships, with the idea being wireless would make rescue at sea much easier; for the people of 1912 there would be many notable cases of passengers abandoning a sinking ship in lifeboats only to drown because of stormy weather or waves or simply not knowing how to operate a small wooden boat; not to say that White Star was in the right right to not add more lifeboats, but there is a reason why beyond simple arrogance that the regulations didn't require more and why White Star didn't add more
even today, the regulations only require enough lifeboats for 75% of passengers and crew at full capacity
Also the fact that lots of lifeboats were launched at half capacity or even less. On one side of the ship, men were denied entry even with no women and children onboard.
I just need you to know your videos are helping me get through my deadlines. Your passion for the people of history is infectious! Thank you for another great video
That little submarine wasn't an explosion. It was an implosion.
Also, the 19 year old was afraid to go but that is what his Father wanted to do for Father's Day so he went.
@@user-m0rb0LA ship is usually referred to as she instead of it
@@user-m0rb0L that's not a mistake, ships are basically the only gendered object in the english language
@@Helania12 Yes, but that is weird and always has been. We don't call vehicles or inanimate objects him. Or they/them for that matter.
@@miglek9613 Yes and it's weird and stupid. We don't call other vehicles or inanimate objects him.
Interesting fact I've heard about Charles.. some scientists believe now that his body was actually more prone hypothermia because of the alcohol but rather he was able to remain calm and sedated due the alcohol and that's how he was able to survive ... It's a powerful lesson in survival and mindset
After listening to this video and a few others on the titanic. It strikes me that this is world history, no one can truly claim that it’s not. The amount of different people and cultures it impacted is astounding to me
So fun to hear the puppet history shout out. Me and my daughter both love that show and the introduction to new/unusual events in history.
I have not even watched this yet but I have one to share. A family member and I have the name if you wanted it, was in first class and wore his wife's bonnet pretended to be a woman because she wouldn't go without him. My great great grandfather hated him for it knowing children died
Holy moly 🫢
Bonnets in 1912? Go on...
This is SO FUNNY oh my gods
@@KazRowe he also was my grandfather's abuser And he told everyone he would meet so also there's some of the disrespect but hold on I will allegedly get his name
@@KazRowe allegedly George Achilles Harder. I am related to him on the Mehl side allegedly.
You did a really nice job of turning a less than ideal location into a lovely sepia set.
Kaz! I just wanna say that I found your channel when I was researching Dracula and I have fallen in love with your method of entertaining/educating people. :) keep doing what you are doing!
This was a wonderful watch and also I have never felt more represented, as a new yorker who gently says “honk honk!” back to the cars every single time I have to restart a take when I’m filming.