The generation is not the name "John". Generations are the children born in linage. Tate would be the 7th generation of children born. He is half Indian and set to inherit the land after his father thus fulfilling the prophecy (which if you understand prophecies don't occur word for word).
Finally!! Someone who gets it. I can't understand how people think Costner's character is 4th generation, the math doesn't add up. The only way it does is if he is direct line to Spencer. That may be the wrench. But if he's direct to Jack(John Jr) then he would have to be 5th gen. Unless people really think they waited another 25 years to have a child.
Can't agree more. Just hope they keep throwing in eye candy like Spence Dutton along the way. I was going to say 'eye candy for the women' but in the 21st century we need to be politically correct I guess 😉.
I love it, he's really amazing, and with the timelines so much apart, you have a wonderful excuse to change up characters as we go, since as we age we do change over time anyway. I love it!
Just finished 1883. Heart breaking. World building. So much weight on why they settled where they did. Sheridan did an amazing job bringing life back into westerns.
It would be cool to do a space western set in the future in 2183 (in reference to 1883), where the remnants of the Duttons set off to space and settle on a new planet.
Yes, but I think he will have to share at least some of the land with the native Americans for the prophecy to truly be fulfilled. Tate could also avoid property taxes if he sets the ranch up correctly which has to be a fortune.
Absolutely being a Dutton and of native American heritage. Great minds think alike. I often shake my head at some people that seem to get "lost in translation", lol. 😉👍🙂
Well, then the prophecy makes sense...since Tate is the 7th generation and is the heir to the Dutton ranch after his father. He's also half native American so he technically takes back the ranch under "Native American" lineage. That's really cool! I hope this is how it turns out. When they know how to write a good story they sure know how to write a good story!
Well, it also sets up a potential pickle for the 7th generation Dutton son. Does he stay loyal to his Dutton family or will there be a push by the Native Americans to get the land back or take it back by force? I think the 7th generation prophecy agreement will be, "a thing", otherwise why mention this in 1883? Endless possibilities here.
Yes and that is an 11 year period that is extremely vital to how the lineage set up for Yellowstone. That time period is long enough for a six episode mini-series or a 10 season show all on its own. This is the only time period which isn't covered through story. Maybe this was intentional for a future spin-off prequel show of it's own?
Back in those days it was one thing to get a stake of land, it was quite another being able to keep it in such a lawless area and time period. Immediately after staking the property they would have to acquire cattle and hired hands to defend the stake. This would have been the most risky and dangerous time period of the entire Dutton ranch lineage.
Dude I was weeping all over the place!!! So I just recently discovered this and I decide to watch 1883 first (I love Westerns!!) then now watching 1923, yet to get to Yellowstone. 1923 is annoying me with the Africa bullshit though it’s surprising authentic I wonder if they went on-site especially the beach parts. I’m also going on Safari next week so that will be a nice fresh contrast. I’m still going to keep watching! Maybe Spenser and I can be in the bush at the same time!
1883 had it all & moved myself & my partner to tears many times. Watched 4 eps of Yellowstone, loved it & decided to start from the beginning with 1883 & 1923... great decision but now suffering from withdrawal after binging everything this franchise has to offer
I would love to see something like a 6 episode limited series or even a feature length special presentation called 1894 that chronicles James, Margaret and John settling the valley, after the trying journey of 1883. The hardships they faced staking their claim, the birth of Spencer, and then the bitter tragedy of James’ death, Margaret’s letter to Jacob, followed by the harrowing winter that brought her demise and almost took John and Spencer as well. There’s something captivating about the sobering fact that their dreams of manifest destiny, and the spoils for which they paid such a terrible price only lasted a few short years for them. Yet, they succeeded in staking the claim that forged a legacy for their progeny. Fill the remainder with Jacob’s arrival, and his efforts to mold that claim into a fledgling empire and I think that would make for another damn fine addition to the story. Though, we may get a fair bit of all that in 1923 flashbacks.
@@merrywriterb7811 You know, I was reading some history, and the writers missed out on a great real world event that would have perfectly explained Margaret’s death. In the winter of 1886 in Montana they had a record amount of snow and low temperatures. It became known as “the Great Die-Up”. Millions of Cattle died, ranches were ruined, and many people died as well. It was 63 below zero, and they received an inch of snow every 16 hours for nearly the entire several months of winter. Thousands of cattle invaded towns and cried incessantly and died in doorways, when the skies melted in spring, so many dead cattle clogged all the rivers and streams that they couldn’t find clean water.
@@HyperLuminal Wow! Thanks so much for this information. You've really hit the nail on the head with both your comments. Damn! You should be sending this into Taylor Sheridan. Though I have a sneaking suspicion that he's already thinking about this. It would be great to have a second season of 1883. The casting of 1883 was great, even though some fans have complained that Isabel May's accent for Elsa Dutton was awful.
5:19 Technically, this prophecy might not imply anything adverse for the Dutton family, as technically, Tate Dutton is half from the Dutton family and half Native American. Therefore, if he were to inherit the ranch, it would then, at least technically, partially revert to the Native Americans because Tate is half Native American...
When you think about how many couples had to come together over the course of history, have a child that had a child and so forth, you really start to appreciate how you being here to read this paragraph truly is an odds defying miracle.
This show is not just American family surviving is a mirroring of generational fight for every family around the world. We all came from someone and somewhere , with inheritance , more of less from our ancestors ,family drama , fights for survival , rivalry between members of same family or community , from birth to death , grit against ourselves and others . American , European ,African , Asian ,Australian , we all can Identify with this Drama . For some ,brings out memories for others tailors a way of life and for some ,maybe singles on this world i, s a dream to come and build towards that family they crave for , a light tower for their future , regardless of the craziness we live in today . So on behalf of my family and my ancestors , simple people that worked the land somewhere in the Carpathian mountains I thank you to all of those that makes this show possible.
Sheridan is killing it. Not just the Dutton saga but also with Tulsa King, Mayor of Kingstown. Sheridan even popped up in 1883 with a big dark beard. Success
Yeah I’m sure he’ll pop up in 1923 as well. He’s Travis Wheatley on Yellowstone, Charlie Goodnight on 1883, seems to be a pattern. Makes perfect sense as he was a great character actor for years. I’ve always liked writers and directors who tend to utilize a recurring troupe of actors in their works. Sheridan appears to be fond of it himself.
His new series 'Lioness' should be out late this year or early next, with a great cast. A CIA thriller with Morgan Freeman, Nicole Kidman, Zoe Saldana, LaMonica Garrett from 1883, Dave Anable from Yellowstone, and more. I absolutely love Stallone in Tulsa King and Jeremy Renner in Mayor of Kingstown. But worried as to how Kingstown will continue since Renner's terrible snowplow accident. I read it may take 2 years for him to fully recover.
@@n34z3r He's very lucky to have survived. Parts of his body were literally crushed, 30+ broken bones. At least Season two production is complete. So that'll give him more time to rehabilitate. Sheridan and Dillon said they're discussing plans for Season 3. Maybe they can write an accident into the script and bring him back in a wheelchair eventually. No one else can play Mike McClusky like Renner, in my book!
I honestly appreciate this list. My son and I were just discussing how many greats between James and John IV (Costner) the other day. I seriously thought these stories would be played out via too many spin-offs. But man can Taylor Sheridan write. 1883 was simply outstanding and 1923 just ratchet waaay up in ep 3. Absolutely excellent story telling.
Question is, is Taylor Sheridan writing an entire new prequel to Yellowstone about the years of 1883 to 1894? Seems such an important time period to not have it's own story. Calamity happened in these years that affected the entire Dutton lineage. This could be six episode mini-series or it could be a 10 season show on it's own. 1883 was a massive success.
Right, why leave the poor guy out...just because both of them died young. Edited: Sam's death was kinda implied, not confirmed, via Elsa's visions prior to her death.
@@Anione111 I did, I remember him going back to his tribe and Elsa was supposed to join him after.Did she said something at the end about his death that I don't remember?
@@agata3683 Sorry, I got confused. It was Ennis who died. Sam, not sure what happened to him. You're right. I still think though there was some hints that Sam was probably dead too thrown into Elsa's visions just prior to her death.
I’m worried that Spencer has no children to his name. He has been my favorite character and I can’t wait for him to be the biggest chad when he gets back to Montana.
Cara Dutton is IRISH. That is not a Scottish accent that Helen Mirren is doing; it’s an Irish accent. The sheep herding guy who causes trouble has a Scottish accent.
Well done at explaining this. Ive only watched Yellowstone in clips, but my dad loves it. You made it easy to understand even with my very basic knowledge of the show
As soon as Tate was born (half Indian) I knew he would inherit. I couldn't understand how the tribal leader/council didn't just kick back and say "well, we win!!!"
The Native American actor who plays Elsa Dutton’s husband Sam on 1883 is the same actor who plays Monica Dutton’s physical therapist in Season 2 of Yellowstone.
@@BlueGorillaInTheMist I suspect Mr. Sheridan recognizes talent when he sees it, and the actors also recognize the talent of Taylor Sheridan and are honored to be chosen to work in his productions. Win-win!
@@jesseostone386 The same with Carter. He also firstly played in one of Sheridan's movies (Those Who Wish Me Dead) and after that he played in Yellowstone if I'm not wrong :)
Love love love this series! Taylor good sir I would shovel horse sh$t to watch a filming. Keep making more sir as your ability to write, direct and cast is truly astounding. Thank you
@@robbyz512 lol. You can mostly only go on who was around in that time period. Most Africans weren't out west cattle ranching in that time period and many Asians were in larger cities back east or in California. They are sticking to historical authenticity for the time period. Cattle ranches in this area in that time period were vastly white society. But I'm sure with spinoffs and episodes there probably will be some different ethnic characters. In 1883 we did see the black commander escorting also the wagon trail west and his story would be interesting as a spinoff. Don't know much about him after 1883. It seems the writers want to keep this lineage story line about the issues of that Dutton family and the ranch rather than introduce any other plots that could detract attention from that. For all we know the potential 60's spinoff might specifically be about race issues for the day and time along with the Dutton ranch and how it could be affected by it.
Just like to point out that Margaret Dutton passed away in 1894. In "1923", season 1 ep 4, at 6 minutes 55 second, we can see her tomestone and it also says she died at the age of 54, so it means she was born in the year 1840. In case nobody else have noticed that...
Thank you for this. I've just finished watching '1883' and about to start watching '1923'. I previously saw the first three seasons of 'Yellowstone', but it was dropped from our UK 'Freeview' channel, before season Four was broadcast. Once Yellowstone Season Five, Part Two is released on DVD, I shall buy the Whole Yellowstone Series and watch it from start to finish... which could take several months. I was a little confused about the Descendants of James and Margaret, after the death of Elsa, but you have filled those details in very nicely. Regards. Russ. UK.
In ep 1 of 1923, in the first scenes of Spencer, Elsa narrates that her father had three children and only one would live to see "their children" grow up and see "through the depression" Since 'John I' has died with only one child, (and the depression hasn't happened by his death) Spencer has to have at least one child for the phrase "their children" to mean the combined children of John, Elsa, and Jack. Which means Jack may not be 'John II'. Spencer might name his son after his brother. Or the writers just might have a few faux pas.....
Monica and Tate will fulfil the 7 generation profecey and return The Yellowstone Dutton ranch to their Indigenous tribal lands council. That would be awesome 👌🏾
This is one of the best TV Sagas going. Right up there with the old legendary ones like Dallas and Dynasty and all, it to my mind is way way better because of the pioneering Western setting and all those tribulations and the respect ascribed to family and the land and all. Amazing serial and spin offs. Superb!
I thought somewhere along the line we found out that Jamie's mother was named Phyllis. But so far there is no mention of how she fits into this or why the Dutton's adopted him, but she seemed to have some sort of connection to the Dutton family.
@Robert Sommers No watch the episode in like season 4 or whenever he's on it. John goes to a diner and Randall is sitting there, they exchange words and John kinds hints he was there when he was arrested. I mean watch the show almost every crime even not related to cattle the Livestock Commission shows up
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Cara Dutton is Irish, not Scottish. Helen Mirren talks about this in an interview. Great episode though, thank you.
So, my question is where does Ned Dutton (Yellowstone S1 E1 tombstone march 16, 1869 at 1 hour 25mins 49 seconds) comes into play in family tree and Chance Dutton (1 hour 25mins and 53 seconds)?
This makes more sense than a different clip I watched about two weeks ago that said that Tim McGraw’s character was the great-great-great grandfather of Kevin Costner’s character. That made no sense to me. Great-great grandfather does make perfect sense, though.
@Kevin Costner no problem. You are an amazing person. I love all the work you have done portraying the Native side of each and every masterpiece you have created. You are a legend by far in my eyes 🪶
I think Spencer is the true ancestor to modern day John Dutton, not Jack, Tate inheriting the ranch will fulfill the prophecy, with Carter as the new Rip/Zane. Also it seems there is some curse to the Duttons losing their firstborn child, except for Tate because he will close the cycle.
These are great shows. I just wish Sheridan would have taken the time to put the whole story together from beginning to end (kind of like Michener's Centennial). Instead, he just keeps coming up with new ideas and tries to make them fit together.
He says John Dutton III hasn't been born yet as of 1923 about a second after they show him on the family tree with a birth date of 1920. Anyone else catch that?
Yeah. Seems an estimation which happened back then, but I think there is still ? Around who Kevin’s grandfather is. The cast has been nagging Taylor and they don’t seem to know.
Wow thanks for the explanation, very interesting. I am very curious about that 7th generation prophecy. Especially since Tate is half native himself. What could that mean then; or how would things change with Tate already being part of "my people"? Very interesting!
ha ha you say "you've been tracking the Duttons family tree for years" ..i could not stop laughing, what a dumb thing to say...."for years" ......🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have seen Kevin Costner listed as John the 3rd everywhere, never the 4th, but I don't know whether this is official information revealed on the show or just a theory that people ran with.
@@highcountrydelatite Yellowstone has indicated multiple times that Kevin Costner is the 5th generation Montana Dutton, or Tim McGraw's great-great-grandson. If Spencer was Costner's grandad, Costner would only be the 4th generation, and great-grandson of McGraw.
This was really cool to see. Might be helpful to see multiple photos of characters on the chart for the ones who have been played by multiple actors at different ages either in flashbacks or multiple series.
Just curious about timelines, if JD is 60s, the timeline maybe off by about 20yrs. From the above timeline tree. JD could have been born in the 40s, which means he should be in his 80s
You can be right? Or you can have friends. Beth exemplifies the latter and whatsisname is like the first part. That's why hes always right? And why nobody ever listens to him... They're bound to explode n separate, eventually.
Put simply, the main Dutton line is believed to be: 1. James (Tim McGraw) 2. John (the little boy from 1883, and grown man on 1923) 3. Jack (the kid about to get married on 1923) 4. John (Dabney Coleman) 5. John (Kevin Costner) 6. Kayce 7. Tate
@@agata3683 Kevin Costner's character was born around 1955, so Dabney Coleman's character would have to be born by 1935 or so. Actually, I think Dabney Coleman's date of birth was estimated at 1910-1920s based on information revealed on Yellowstone. Even if Spencer gets Alex pregnant immediately, the baby will likely be born in 1924 - not enough time for it to grow up and father Dabney Coleman. Also, I think there's a reason Jack is one of the main characters on 1923. I believe it all runs through him.
@@BlueGorillaInTheMist Really? I thought John (KC) is more like 60 not 70. And I also had a theory that maybe John's (KC) father died when he was little and John was raised by his grandfather (DC). I see a lot of similarities between Spencer and Kayce so I thought they had to be direct descendants.
@@agata3683 I think Costner's character is in his sixties, like his real life age. If he was born in 1955 for example, he would be 67 now (barring a January bday). Seems about right. We know that Costner is the 5th generation of Duttons in Montana. Jamie announced him as such on season 5 episode 1. Tim McGraw said the same on a Yellowstone DVD release special feature (that he is Costner's great-great-granddad). Spencer and John, Tim McGraw's sons, are the second generation, so there has to be two more generations between them and Costner. Jack being the third generation is the only way that's possible given the time frame. If Dabney Coleman was Costner's grandfather, as you are considering, he would have to have been born closer to 1910-1915 and been fathered by Spencer or John, and no one like this appears to exist on 1923. I suppose theoretically he could be born in 1924 and be the grandfather of Costner who was born around 1955, but this would mean he and his offspring would both have to have children at the ages of about 15 and 16 respectively. Also, I don't remember all the scenes with Dabney Coleman and Costner, but was it not explicitly stated or implied that Dabney Coleman was Costner's dad? Regarding the similarities between Spencer and Kasey, you're not the first person I've seen point that out, and think that perhaps the lineage runs through Spencer. It just doesn't work out with the timeline.
@@BlueGorillaInTheMist Was it mentioned somewhere he was born in 1955? I guess we'll see what they'll came up with but I'm still counting on Spencer being the great grandfather or grandfather of John (KC).
When your out of control 15 yr old sister gets pregnant and she runs to a teen big brother (jamie)... decision-making is never long-term. I think they should give Jamie a break at being "soft" and have him explain the entire story to his father and Rip.... and get that issue behind everyone.
@@MRENTERTAINMENT36 according to Taste of Country, Claire is not James sister. She his sister in law, was married to James older brother who was a widow after the death of her husband. Taste of country explains this at the 4:46 mark in the video about the Dutton family lines.
@@dannermanner5506 According to Taylor Sheridan himself the main man the boss the person who wrote 1883 said James only have one brother Jacob and a sister Claire.
@@MRENTERTAINMENT36 then you need to others folks posting videos that Claire was married to James brother. I’ve seen several others saying the same thing. That she was his sister in law
I only wish this was all on Paramount channel instead of the network where you have to pay extra, that's the only thing stopping me from watching the other two related shows.
All of the cast were magnificent in 1883, and (thus far) I would say the same of 1923, but Isabel May was a revelation. I'm a little downcast that she is only the narrator in 1923 - so far, at least - but given that was where she finished in 1883 it makes sense. I had no idea that Tim McGraw and Faith Hill could act - I don't follow country music - but I became more invested in that series than I have been in any of Taylor's other efforts. Kingstown is grim beyond measure, particularly now that it's star is seriously injured out here in the real world, but 1883 and 1923 go a long way to explaining why Yellowstone's John Dutton will do anything to keep the ranch intact.
Tulsa King and Mayor of Kingstown are excellent. Love the street politics of Mayor of Kingstown. Renner was a great choice for this role. He's a hands on guy outside of acting and isn't above getting out in the weather to help folks in bad weather in poor situations. When you look at who has been cast in all three shows, most of them are people that value living real life and that does involve risk. Country singers pride themselves as being real people first and were before making it big in singing. The value of their true selves before making it big has lasting value. This portrays are more real life-like character on-screen. Faith Hill and Tim McGraw were asked to be characters that really aren't that far off from who they were before making it big. Country folks trying to survive, get by and maybe their singing will go somewhere. Neither has been used by Hollywood or spoiled by it with a lot of Hollywood use. I like the fact that they weren't in big Hollywood productions and the sequels those can produce. It add genuine to their characters for 1883. It also works for Harrison Ford because he can personify that same genuine in 1923 and that's just experience and skill and work. As a kid growing up in TN back in the day, many elderly men had Ford's character personification and attitude. They told of stories growing up where the law did little to protect you and yours back than. Sheridan is fantastic and bringing these by-gone attitudes back and presenting them through his careful character/actor selections.
Living simple real life and singing about it is a intended aspect of most country singers. "fame ain't changed me, I'm still singing the simple man's truth". Garth Brooks still drive a 500 dollar truck years after making it big. People saw this as him staying true to self. Same principle here in casting.
It certainly feels like they're heading that way, especially with the confusion around whether Costner's John is III or IV. A lot of people, myself and this video included, are assuming that Jack is actually John II, but I don't think that is confirmed.
@@weskinder8571 Not necessarily. Coleman is John II in flashbacks, but that doesn't mean he isn't played by another actor in 1923. That said, I'm leaning more towards this commenter's idea... that Costner's John III is descended from Spencer as opposed to John I. Spencer names his kid John after his dead brother, making him another John I.
Thanks. I’ve been going nuts trying to figure it out as there were so many generations crammed in there. By my guess, Costner is about my age and my Grama was born in 1896.
@@dougdl53 Kevin is in his 70s so he could have been born in the 40s let's say Emma is 18 in 25 years she'll be 42 she could have him at that age or would be 1948 that adds up to me
1883 and 1923 (Season 1) are two of the best shows I’ve ever watched and are in my opinion leagues better than Yellowstone despite the fact that I do also profoundly enjoy watching Yellowstone as well. Taylor Sheridan is an absolute genius at writing exquisitely crafted stories set within the Western genre.
This show had so much potential and they just shit the bed. 1883 was the best by far, good character developments and story arc's, characters which had flaws but learned and grew which was endearing to the audience. Yellowstone has none of that, just a bad soap opera with cardboard, pre-fab characters that stay exactly the same from start to finish. I hope 1923 is better because I gave up on Yellowstone after season 4.
I couldn't agree more.yellowstone has so much more potential for depth like 1883, but the character development is not existent and lacks emotional connection with the audience ...at least not to the degree that 1883 has. Not saying I don't like it but there's just so much potential with these great characters.
Thanks for doing this family tree. I'm new to all these shows and gets confusing trying to figure how they are all related. Haven't watched any Yellowstone yet.
Following recent 1923 episodes... There are some possible adjustments 👀 UPDATED FAMILY TREE on the way. Stay tuned.
The generation is not the name "John". Generations are the children born in linage. Tate would be the 7th generation of children born. He is half Indian and set to inherit the land after his father thus fulfilling the prophecy (which if you understand prophecies don't occur word for word).
Finally!! Someone who gets it. I can't understand how people think Costner's character is 4th generation, the math doesn't add up. The only way it does is if he is direct line to Spencer. That may be the wrench. But if he's direct to Jack(John Jr) then he would have to be 5th gen. Unless people really think they waited another 25 years to have a child.
True!! He is half Indian.
Dam sexy men understandably huh
Also it's Irish if the father name is John and the son's name is John the son is always called Jack
Sheridan really did make a fucking gem. I could care less if we get 30 spin-offs. The story-telling, casting and overall production are top notch.
Can't agree more. Just hope they keep throwing in eye candy like Spence Dutton along the way. I was going to say 'eye candy for the women' but in the 21st century we need to be politically correct I guess 😉.
Sheridan has more stuff coming! He's a beast!
I love it, he's really amazing, and with the timelines so much apart, you have a wonderful excuse to change up characters as we go, since as we age we do change over time anyway. I love it!
Just finished 1883. Heart breaking. World building. So much weight on why they settled where they did. Sheridan did an amazing job bringing life back into westerns.
It would be cool to do a space western set in the future in 2183 (in reference to 1883), where the remnants of the Duttons set off to space and settle on a new planet.
Tate Dutton, being the son of Monica, actually fulfills the prophecy.
Yes, but I think he will have to share at least some of the land with the native Americans for the prophecy to truly be fulfilled. Tate could also avoid property taxes if he sets the ranch up correctly which has to be a fortune.
Absolutely being a Dutton and of native American heritage. Great minds think alike. I often shake my head at some people that seem to get "lost in translation", lol. 😉👍🙂
He’s only 5th generation
@@anthonyperotti151 1.James > 2 .John Sr. > 3. John Jr (Jack) > 4.John the 3rd 5. John the 4th (Kostner) > 6. Kayce Dutton > 7. Tate Dutton
If Tate ends up marrying a Native American then he has secured the prophecy!
Well, then the prophecy makes sense...since Tate is the 7th generation and is the heir to the Dutton ranch after his father. He's also half native American so he technically takes back the ranch under "Native American" lineage. That's really cool! I hope this is how it turns out. When they know how to write a good story they sure know how to write a good story!
Well, it also sets up a potential pickle for the 7th generation Dutton son. Does he stay loyal to his Dutton family or will there be a push by the Native Americans to get the land back or take it back by force? I think the 7th generation prophecy agreement will be, "a thing", otherwise why mention this in 1883? Endless possibilities here.
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But he doesn’t he inherits a small corner the rest is reservation land
The sequel we most want to see is how Margaret and James Dutton set up their homestead at the Dutton ranch in Montana.
👍nah who and how the house was built ! So beautiful
@David Catlette that could covered in the immediate sequel to 1883.
@Lwhite1962 so you said they talked about that in 1883
Yes and that is an 11 year period that is extremely vital to how the lineage set up for Yellowstone. That time period is long enough for a six episode mini-series or a 10 season show all on its own. This is the only time period which isn't covered through story. Maybe this was intentional for a future spin-off prequel show of it's own?
Back in those days it was one thing to get a stake of land, it was quite another being able to keep it in such a lawless area and time period. Immediately after staking the property they would have to acquire cattle and hired hands to defend the stake. This would have been the most risky and dangerous time period of the entire Dutton ranch lineage.
not many shows.movies can move me to tears, but 1883 surely did that..brutally emotional at times..you really connect with these fictional folks..
Dude I was weeping all over the place!!!
So I just recently discovered this and I decide to watch 1883 first (I love Westerns!!) then now watching 1923, yet to get to Yellowstone.
1923 is annoying me with the Africa bullshit though it’s surprising authentic I wonder if they went on-site especially the beach parts. I’m also going on Safari next week so that will be a nice fresh contrast. I’m still going to keep watching! Maybe Spenser and I can be in the bush at the same time!
1883 had it all & moved myself & my partner to tears many times. Watched 4 eps of Yellowstone, loved it & decided to start from the beginning with 1883 & 1923... great decision but now suffering from withdrawal after binging everything this franchise has to offer
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I would love to see something like a 6 episode limited series or even a feature length special presentation called 1894 that chronicles James, Margaret and John settling the valley, after the trying journey of 1883. The hardships they faced staking their claim, the birth of Spencer, and then the bitter tragedy of James’ death, Margaret’s letter to Jacob, followed by the harrowing winter that brought her demise and almost took John and Spencer as well. There’s something captivating about the sobering fact that their dreams of manifest destiny, and the spoils for which they paid such a terrible price only lasted a few short years for them. Yet, they succeeded in staking the claim that forged a legacy for their progeny.
Fill the remainder with Jacob’s arrival, and his efforts to mold that claim into a fledgling empire and I think that would make for another damn fine addition to the story.
Though, we may get a fair bit of all that in 1923 flashbacks.
Your comment gave me chills because words cannot describe how much I would die for this. Omg omg omg, yes
Yes I would like that too. I really enjoyed watching 1883 and it would be good to see more of it
It took more than one year to even start to build that ranch, one reason Margaret froze 9 years later.
@@merrywriterb7811 You know, I was reading some history, and the writers missed out on a great real world event that would have perfectly explained Margaret’s death. In the winter of 1886 in Montana they had a record amount of snow and low temperatures. It became known as “the Great Die-Up”. Millions of Cattle died, ranches were ruined, and many people died as well. It was 63 below zero, and they received an inch of snow every 16 hours for nearly the entire several months of winter. Thousands of cattle invaded towns and cried incessantly and died in doorways, when the skies melted in spring, so many dead cattle clogged all the rivers and streams that they couldn’t find clean water.
@@HyperLuminal Wow! Thanks so much for this information. You've really hit the nail on the head with both your comments. Damn! You should be sending this into Taylor Sheridan. Though I have a sneaking suspicion that he's already thinking about this. It would be great to have a second season of 1883. The casting of 1883 was great, even though some fans have complained that Isabel May's accent for Elsa Dutton was awful.
"Beth Dutton...a living hot mess" LMAO...but true!
5:19 Technically, this prophecy might not imply anything adverse for the Dutton family, as technically, Tate Dutton is half from the Dutton family and half Native American. Therefore, if he were to inherit the ranch, it would then, at least technically, partially revert to the Native Americans because Tate is half Native American...
When you think about how many couples had to come together over the course of history, have a child that had a child and so forth, you really start to appreciate how you being here to read this paragraph truly is an odds defying miracle.
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Nice comment! 😊 The band Nightwish has a song about it: perfume of the timeless
This show is not just American family surviving is a mirroring of generational fight for every family around the world. We all came from someone and somewhere , with inheritance , more of less from our ancestors ,family drama , fights for survival , rivalry between members of same family or community , from birth to death , grit against ourselves and others . American , European ,African , Asian ,Australian , we all can Identify with this Drama . For some ,brings out memories for others tailors a way of life and for some ,maybe singles on this world i, s a dream to come and build towards that family they crave for , a light tower for their future , regardless of the craziness we live in today . So on behalf of my family and my ancestors , simple people that worked the land somewhere in the Carpathian mountains I thank you to all of those that makes this show possible.
OMG!!! Fantastic overview!! I was about to give up on the linkage between all the different series. Your video helped me out big time! Thank you
We need a season two of 1883! 😩
David Marcotte I agree with you that we need a season two of 1883.
i cried like a baby every episode. we need more elsa even though it's not possible. 😔
It's called 1923
Well, stay tuned. Bass Reeves on its way.
@@wiledman2430 different spinoff with different Dutton family members
Sheridan is killing it. Not just the Dutton saga but also with Tulsa King, Mayor of Kingstown. Sheridan even popped up in 1883 with a big dark beard. Success
Yeah I’m sure he’ll pop up in 1923 as well. He’s Travis Wheatley on Yellowstone, Charlie Goodnight on 1883, seems to be a pattern. Makes perfect sense as he was a great character actor for years.
I’ve always liked writers and directors who tend to utilize a recurring troupe of actors in their works. Sheridan appears to be fond of it himself.
Sheridan also had a recurring role as a Deputy in Sons of Anarchy.
His new series 'Lioness' should be out late this year or early next, with a great cast. A CIA thriller with Morgan Freeman, Nicole Kidman, Zoe Saldana, LaMonica Garrett from 1883, Dave Anable from Yellowstone, and more. I absolutely love Stallone in Tulsa King and Jeremy Renner in Mayor of Kingstown. But worried as to how Kingstown will continue since Renner's terrible snowplow accident. I read it may take 2 years for him to fully recover.
@@kathi7502 that's right. Renner. Damn shame what happened. From what you described Lioness sounds like something to watch out for
@@n34z3r He's very lucky to have survived. Parts of his body were literally crushed, 30+ broken bones. At least Season two production is complete. So that'll give him more time to rehabilitate. Sheridan and Dillon said they're discussing plans for Season 3. Maybe they can write an accident into the script and bring him back in a wheelchair eventually. No one else can play Mike McClusky like Renner, in my book!
I honestly appreciate this list. My son and I were just discussing how many greats between James and John IV (Costner) the other day. I seriously thought these stories would be played out via too many spin-offs. But man can Taylor Sheridan write. 1883 was simply outstanding and 1923 just ratchet waaay up in ep 3. Absolutely excellent story telling.
Question is, is Taylor Sheridan writing an entire new prequel to Yellowstone about the years of 1883 to 1894? Seems such an important time period to not have it's own story. Calamity happened in these years that affected the entire Dutton lineage. This could be six episode mini-series or it could be a 10 season show on it's own. 1883 was a massive success.
really like the fact that Isabell May is doing the narration in 1923 also
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You forgot to add the spouse of Elsa Dutton "Sam" the Commanche warrior to the family tree!
Right, why leave the poor guy out...just because both of them died young.
Edited: Sam's death was kinda implied, not confirmed, via Elsa's visions prior to her death.
@@Anione111 How do you know when HE died?
@@agata3683 Watch the prequel 1883.
@@Anione111 I did, I remember him going back to his tribe and Elsa was supposed to join him after.Did she said something at the end about his death that I don't remember?
@@agata3683 Sorry, I got confused. It was Ennis who died. Sam, not sure what happened to him. You're right. I still think though there was some hints that Sam was probably dead too thrown into Elsa's visions just prior to her death.
Finally an explanation that actually makes sense! Thank you
I love all Thing’s Dutton. ❤ I hope they continue with their spinoffs.
Hello
This actually really helped. I was confused as to who is who on 1923. And yes, Spencer is ridiculously handsome!😉
I'm interested in seeing Spencer's story unfold.
He sure is. Yikes.
I’m worried that Spencer has no children to his name. He has been my favorite character and I can’t wait for him to be the biggest chad when he gets back to Montana.
Truly Dutton saga is the best story telling I've ever experienced. Thank you
Cara Dutton is IRISH. That is not a Scottish accent that Helen Mirren is doing; it’s an Irish accent. The sheep herding guy who causes trouble has a Scottish accent.
Correct but don't mention Oirish evil nun. Worst accent ever.
Shut it karen
They just said she is scottish and your just gonna change it people are so self centeredv
@@starchildofthe90s7 Helen Mirren said herself she was doing an Irish accent. She's Irish.
This is super important to know when yellow stone “1940” airs. Thank me later 😉
Best Dutton's family tree explanation so far!
Fastest too.
Except for the profecy. Tate is half native American. That's how they get the land back.
Well done at explaining this. Ive only watched Yellowstone in clips, but my dad loves it. You made it easy to understand even with my very basic knowledge of the show
How do we know it’s not Spencer Dutton that the main lineage runs through?
That's what I'm saying
This is a fantastic breakdown of YS, 1883 & 1923. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I can't wait for Lawmen: Boss Reeves and the 1940s & 1960s spinoffs!! 🎉🎉
Awesome stuff 1883, 1923, Yellowstone, best ive ever watched. More please.
As soon as Tate was born (half Indian) I knew he would inherit. I couldn't understand how the tribal leader/council didn't just kick back and say "well, we win!!!"
because John is going to try and turn Tate into a person like himself. If that's the case then the tribal council loses in some aspect
He is not the sole inheritor. Jaime's son also has a claim.
@@stephaniedejesus485 2024 : Yellowstone is coming up soon
Everything connected to Yellowstone is GOLDEN!!!
Mind blown. Claire in 1883 is the lawyer trying to get Jamie in Yellowstone 🤯
I didn't realize either haha
The Native American actor who plays Elsa Dutton’s husband Sam on 1883 is the same actor who plays Monica Dutton’s physical therapist in Season 2 of Yellowstone.
@@jesseostone386 Oh wow, that's crazy. The same actors seem to repeatedly pop up in various Taylor Sheridan productions.
@@BlueGorillaInTheMist I suspect Mr. Sheridan recognizes talent when he sees it, and the actors also recognize the talent of Taylor Sheridan and are honored to be chosen to work in his productions. Win-win!
@@jesseostone386 The same with Carter. He also firstly played in one of Sheridan's movies (Those Who Wish Me Dead) and after that he played in Yellowstone if I'm not wrong :)
Love love love this series! Taylor good sir I would shovel horse sh$t to watch a filming. Keep making more sir as your ability to write, direct and cast is truly astounding. Thank you
@@robbyz512 lol. You can mostly only go on who was around in that time period. Most Africans weren't out west cattle ranching in that time period and many Asians were in larger cities back east or in California. They are sticking to historical authenticity for the time period. Cattle ranches in this area in that time period were vastly white society. But I'm sure with spinoffs and episodes there probably will be some different ethnic characters. In 1883 we did see the black commander escorting also the wagon trail west and his story would be interesting as a spinoff. Don't know much about him after 1883. It seems the writers want to keep this lineage story line about the issues of that Dutton family and the ranch rather than introduce any other plots that could detract attention from that. For all we know the potential 60's spinoff might specifically be about race issues for the day and time along with the Dutton ranch and how it could be affected by it.
Just like to point out that Margaret Dutton passed away in 1894. In "1923", season 1 ep 4, at 6 minutes 55 second, we can see her tomestone and it also says she died at the age of 54, so it means she was born in the year 1840. In case nobody else have noticed that...
Thank you for this. I've just finished watching '1883' and about to start watching '1923'. I previously saw the first three seasons of 'Yellowstone', but it was dropped from our UK 'Freeview' channel, before season Four was broadcast. Once Yellowstone Season Five, Part Two is released on DVD, I shall buy the Whole Yellowstone Series and watch it from start to finish... which could take several months. I was a little confused about the Descendants of James and Margaret, after the death of Elsa, but you have filled those details in very nicely. Regards. Russ. UK.
In ep 1 of 1923, in the first scenes of Spencer, Elsa narrates that her father had three children and only one would live to see "their children" grow up and see "through the depression" Since 'John I' has died with only one child, (and the depression hasn't happened by his death) Spencer has to have at least one child for the phrase "their children" to mean the combined children of John, Elsa, and Jack.
Which means Jack may not be 'John II'. Spencer might name his son after his brother.
Or the writers just might have a few faux pas.....
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Tate is Native American. Therefore fulfilling the prophecy in a way.
That is the prophecy i believe cause it was gonna start with elsa and the Indian
@@ZachRLandon In this video he completely ignored the Indian 'Sam' who married Elsa. How unfair.
That's what I kept saying.
@@Anione111exactly
Monica and Tate will fulfil the 7 generation profecey and return The Yellowstone Dutton ranch to their Indigenous tribal lands council. That would be awesome 👌🏾
Thanks for clearing up the line for me. Love all the the shows and the time periods
Lmao, "Played by Brandon Sklenar who let's face it is ridiculously handsome," this is very true
This is one of the best TV Sagas going. Right up there with the old legendary ones like Dallas and Dynasty and all, it to my mind is way way better because of the pioneering Western setting and all those tribulations and the respect ascribed to family and the land and all. Amazing serial and spin offs. Superb!
I thought somewhere along the line we found out that Jamie's mother was named Phyllis. But so far there is no mention of how she fits into this or why the Dutton's adopted him, but she seemed to have some sort of connection to the Dutton family.
Jamie’s mother was killed by his father (played by the great actor Will Patton) John and his wife took in little Jamie and raised him as his own.
@@RSSommers What is John's (KevinC) connection to Jamie's birth father that led to the adoption?
@@Anione111 No, it was John and his wife’s connection to Jamie’s birth mom
@Robert Sommers No watch the episode in like season 4 or whenever he's on it. John goes to a diner and Randall is sitting there, they exchange words and John kinds hints he was there when he was arrested. I mean watch the show almost every crime even not related to cattle the Livestock Commission shows up
Really great shows, all of them. We are hooked..
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Cara Dutton is Irish, not Scottish. Helen Mirren talks about this in an interview. Great episode though, thank you.
Yes and I'm sure it mentions slums of Dublin on the show, either in a voiceover or the character says it.
Fantastic recap and very helpful.
How do you know whether it is Spencer or Jack who carry on the Dutton line to Kevin Costners character?
This is also my question
Spencer , as Jack lost his unborn, can't have anymore. Gunshot wound, the flush.
Right, plus Kevin Costner is John Dutton III. I think Spencer names his son after his brother John who is Costner's Father.
So, my question is where does Ned Dutton (Yellowstone S1 E1 tombstone march 16, 1869 at 1 hour 25mins 49 seconds) comes into play in family tree and Chance Dutton (1 hour 25mins and 53 seconds)?
🤠👍Very cool and very nicely well done and informatively executed and explained very great indeed 👌...
I'm fascinated by people who can keep up with this lineage.....cause I'm lost!! All I know all three of these shows are great!
I'm far more interested in a continuation of the story for the period between 1883 & 1923 than the 1940s or 1960s.
Great vid thanks, simple and to the point
Thanks for that I watch all of them and was trying to wrap my head around the lineage with no luck, this helped a lot.
Thank you! That helps soooo much!
This is the best and fastest explanation of the family tree I have seen so thank you.
Sheridan's Dutton family tree is way more interesting than my own family tree.
Jack used to be used as a nickname for James also. I'm guessing to separate one James from another, probably why Johns were called Jack too
This makes more sense than a different clip I watched about two weeks ago that said that Tim McGraw’s character was the great-great-great grandfather of Kevin Costner’s character. That made no sense to me. Great-great grandfather does make perfect sense, though.
Well there's a interview with Taylor Sheridan and he said James is the great great great grandfather of John
Taylor Sheridan said it in an interview, and almost definitely misspoke
Very useful. Thanks.
All the best from The Land of The Gaucho (Argentina)
You need this tree to understand these shows. Thank you
That was awesome. Thank you so much for explaining that!!! ❤❤❤❤
Thank you for this informative video. I was only trying to figure all of this out last night. One small correction - I believe Cara Dutton is Irish.
You are correct. Glad someone else mentioned it.
So are James & Margarette
Taylor Sheridan, you are an amazing screen writer and producer. Love all of your stories.
@Kevin Costner no problem. You are an amazing person. I love all the work you have done portraying the Native side of each and every masterpiece you have created. You are a legend by far in my eyes 🪶
@Kevin Costner Omak, WA on the Colville Indian Reservation.
I think Spencer is the true ancestor to modern day John Dutton, not Jack, Tate inheriting the ranch will fulfill the prophecy, with Carter as the new Rip/Zane. Also it seems there is some curse to the Duttons losing their firstborn child, except for Tate because he will close the cycle.
Excellent Presentation, *Congratulations!*
These are great shows. I just wish Sheridan would have taken the time to put the whole story together from beginning to end (kind of like Michener's Centennial). Instead, he just keeps coming up with new ideas and tries to make them fit together.
I love how Taylor Sheridan actually plays someone in Yellowstone and 1883, and likely 1923
Jack is a given name, a diminutive of John; alternatively, it may be derived from Jacques, the French form of James or Jacob.
As in President John F. Kennedy being called Jack and marrying the feminine French Jacqueline “Jackie.”
I had to play this on slow speed to take it in but great explanation, thank you! 😆🙌
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I'm pretty sure Kevin Costner plays John Dutton III and that Jack is his great uncle.
Thank you...! The family tree was a big help in understanding the lineage..
He says John Dutton III hasn't been born yet as of 1923 about a second after they show him on the family tree with a birth date of 1920. Anyone else catch that?
Yeah. Seems an estimation which happened back then, but I think there is still ? Around who Kevin’s grandfather is. The cast has been nagging Taylor and they don’t seem to know.
They also have Spencer born in 1886, when both of his parents were dead by 1884. Just little misprints I guess?
@@jeffwills6986 ppl think it is Cara’s baby right?
@@highcountrydelatite we’ll see. I think Spencer has direct line to Kevin Costner
@@jeffwills6986 James died 1893, mother one year later in a snow back.
Thank you! 1923 has been driving me crazy who everyone is. 👍👍
Wow thanks for the explanation, very interesting. I am very curious about that 7th generation prophecy. Especially since Tate is half native himself. What could that mean then; or how would things change with Tate already being part of "my people"? Very interesting!
ha ha you say "you've been tracking the Duttons family tree for years" ..i could not stop laughing, what a dumb thing to say...."for years" ......🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Very well explained! Thank you!
I love these shows. Damn, I missed the new session starting so bad! When is it going to be finally released? The waiting is unbearable!
Isn't Kevin Costner (John Dutton III not IV ?
You are correct
Yea I think Jack is literally just Jack.
That seems to be the biggest point of contention now. But I agree, my understanding was the KC was John III.
I have seen Kevin Costner listed as John the 3rd everywhere, never the 4th, but I don't know whether this is official information revealed on the show or just a theory that people ran with.
@@highcountrydelatite Yellowstone has indicated multiple times that Kevin Costner is the 5th generation Montana Dutton, or Tim McGraw's great-great-grandson.
If Spencer was Costner's grandad, Costner would only be the 4th generation, and great-grandson of McGraw.
This was really cool to see. Might be helpful to see multiple photos of characters on the chart for the ones who have been played by multiple actors at different ages either in flashbacks or multiple series.
Just curious about timelines, if JD is 60s, the timeline maybe off by about 20yrs. From the above timeline tree. JD could have been born in the 40s, which means he should be in his 80s
He's a little younger than me. Born in the late 50s. The Dutton generations roughly line up with mine.
Do not confuse John Dutton’s age or year of birth with Kevin Costner’s.
@@jesseostone386 How old is John Dutton's character supposed to be in Yellowstone?
@@Anione111 Don’t know. Costner will turn 68 in January.
@@Ignats75 1955.
Awesome. Thank you for putting it all together.
If you think about it, Tate is half Indian, witch would be “his people” so in fact Tate IS them taking it back! 🤔
Tate is not Indian. Indians are from India
@@AtomicMushroomz indigenous then if you will
Beth: a living hot mess😂 BUT WE ALL LOVE HER
You can be right?
Or you can have friends.
Beth exemplifies the latter and whatsisname is like the first part. That's why hes always right? And why nobody ever listens to him...
They're bound to explode n separate, eventually.
I can't wait for series 6 of Yellowstone. I've just watched 1883, half of 1923 and all the episodes of Yellowstone. I'm lost now
No I don't mind. Nice to hear from you
Cara is Irish not Scottish
Now, just to watch this 500 more times until my brain 🧠 completely comprehends it! 🤣 🤣 🤣
Put simply, the main Dutton line is believed to be:
1. James (Tim McGraw)
2. John (the little boy from 1883, and grown man on 1923)
3. Jack (the kid about to get married on 1923)
4. John (Dabney Coleman)
5. John (Kevin Costner)
6. Kayce
7. Tate
I think it'll be: 1. James 2. Spencer 3. Spencer's kid 4. John (DC) 5. John (KC) 6. Kayce 7. Tate
@@agata3683 Kevin Costner's character was born around 1955, so Dabney Coleman's character would have to be born by 1935 or so. Actually, I think Dabney Coleman's date of birth was estimated at 1910-1920s based on information revealed on Yellowstone.
Even if Spencer gets Alex pregnant immediately, the baby will likely be born in 1924 - not enough time for it to grow up and father Dabney Coleman.
Also, I think there's a reason Jack is one of the main characters on 1923. I believe it all runs through him.
@@BlueGorillaInTheMist Really? I thought John (KC) is more like 60 not 70. And I also had a theory that maybe John's (KC) father died when he was little and John was raised by his grandfather (DC). I see a lot of similarities between Spencer and Kayce so I thought they had to be direct descendants.
@@agata3683 I think Costner's character is in his sixties, like his real life age. If he was born in 1955 for example, he would be 67 now (barring a January bday). Seems about right.
We know that Costner is the 5th generation of Duttons in Montana. Jamie announced him as such on season 5 episode 1. Tim McGraw said the same on a Yellowstone DVD release special feature (that he is Costner's great-great-granddad).
Spencer and John, Tim McGraw's sons, are the second generation, so there has to be two more generations between them and Costner.
Jack being the third generation is the only way that's possible given the time frame.
If Dabney Coleman was Costner's grandfather, as you are considering, he would have to have been born closer to 1910-1915 and been fathered by Spencer or John, and no one like this appears to exist on 1923.
I suppose theoretically he could be born in 1924 and be the grandfather of Costner who was born around 1955, but this would mean he and his offspring would both have to have children at the ages of about 15 and 16 respectively.
Also, I don't remember all the scenes with Dabney Coleman and Costner, but was it not explicitly stated or implied that Dabney Coleman was Costner's dad?
Regarding the similarities between Spencer and Kasey, you're not the first person I've seen point that out, and think that perhaps the lineage runs through Spencer. It just doesn't work out with the timeline.
@@BlueGorillaInTheMist Was it mentioned somewhere he was born in 1955? I guess we'll see what they'll came up with but I'm still counting on Spencer being the great grandfather or grandfather of John (KC).
Ngl, i still cant keep a train of thought with the Dutton family tree😂😂😂 let me just watch the series in peace please
helen mirren is irish in this not scottish.......your welcome an actual scottish person
Haha
Thank Goodness! I've been banging my head off the wall trying to figure it all out. Too many Jacks and Johns!
When your out of control 15 yr old sister gets pregnant and she runs to a teen big brother (jamie)... decision-making is never long-term. I think they should give Jamie a break at being "soft" and have him explain the entire story to his father and Rip.... and get that issue behind everyone.
thank you for this, I didn't realize they were so far removed
I thought Claire was Margaret sister? I’m pretty sure that was mentioned in the 1883 series.
Claire is James sister
@@MRENTERTAINMENT36 according to Taste of Country, Claire is not James sister. She his sister in law, was married to James older brother who was a widow after the death of her husband. Taste of country explains this at the 4:46 mark in the video about the Dutton family lines.
@@dannermanner5506 According to Taylor Sheridan himself the main man the boss the person who wrote 1883 said James only have one brother Jacob and a sister Claire.
@@MRENTERTAINMENT36 then you need to others folks posting videos that Claire was married to James brother. I’ve seen several others saying the same thing. That she was his sister in law
@@MRENTERTAINMENT36 no she's not, and James didn't act like her brother... maybe when he burried her
I only wish this was all on Paramount channel instead of the network where you have to pay extra, that's the only thing stopping me from watching the other two related shows.
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All of the cast were magnificent in 1883, and (thus far) I would say the same of 1923, but Isabel May was a revelation. I'm a little downcast that she is only the narrator in 1923 - so far, at least - but given that was where she finished in 1883 it makes sense. I had no idea that Tim McGraw and Faith Hill could act - I don't follow country music - but I became more invested in that series than I have been in any of Taylor's other efforts. Kingstown is grim beyond measure, particularly now that it's star is seriously injured out here in the real world, but 1883 and 1923 go a long way to explaining why Yellowstone's John Dutton will do anything to keep the ranch intact.
Tulsa King and Mayor of Kingstown are excellent. Love the street politics of Mayor of Kingstown. Renner was a great choice for this role. He's a hands on guy outside of acting and isn't above getting out in the weather to help folks in bad weather in poor situations. When you look at who has been cast in all three shows, most of them are people that value living real life and that does involve risk. Country singers pride themselves as being real people first and were before making it big in singing. The value of their true selves before making it big has lasting value. This portrays are more real life-like character on-screen. Faith Hill and Tim McGraw were asked to be characters that really aren't that far off from who they were before making it big. Country folks trying to survive, get by and maybe their singing will go somewhere. Neither has been used by Hollywood or spoiled by it with a lot of Hollywood use. I like the fact that they weren't in big Hollywood productions and the sequels those can produce. It add genuine to their characters for 1883. It also works for Harrison Ford because he can personify that same genuine in 1923 and that's just experience and skill and work. As a kid growing up in TN back in the day, many elderly men had Ford's character personification and attitude. They told of stories growing up where the law did little to protect you and yours back than. Sheridan is fantastic and bringing these by-gone attitudes back and presenting them through his careful character/actor selections.
Living simple real life and singing about it is a intended aspect of most country singers. "fame ain't changed me, I'm still singing the simple man's truth". Garth Brooks still drive a 500 dollar truck years after making it big. People saw this as him staying true to self. Same principle here in casting.
My wild theory....John Dutton is actually decended from Spencer/Alex not Jack
It certainly feels like they're heading that way, especially with the confusion around whether Costner's John is III or IV. A lot of people, myself and this video included, are assuming that Jack is actually John II, but I don't think that is confirmed.
@@clh35 It goes: James, John I, Jack (given name), John II (Coleman), John III (Costner) In this case, Jack doesn't make John.
@@weskinder8571 Not necessarily. Coleman is John II in flashbacks, but that doesn't mean he isn't played by another actor in 1923. That said, I'm leaning more towards this commenter's idea... that Costner's John III is descended from Spencer as opposed to John I. Spencer names his kid John after his dead brother, making him another John I.
@@clh35 Alex will be pregnant in 2nd year of 1923. Elizabeth's child bearing days are over, her destination will be to help raise the new born.
Thanks. I’ve been going nuts trying to figure it out as there were so many generations crammed in there. By my guess, Costner is about my age and my Grama was born in 1896.
John Dutton of Yellowstone is old enough to be jacks son
Yes, but Jack's wife would be into menopause before she could birth him in the 1950s. True, Jack could have a second wife decades later.
@@dougdl53 Kevin is in his 70s so he could have been born in the 40s let's say Emma is 18 in 25 years she'll be 42 she could have him at that age or would be 1948 that adds up to me
@@jaredtomochak4946 Kevin is 67
I believe
Yeah if Jack had him when he was 50 something years old. Costner's character was born in the 1950s. In any case, that's not what happened.
@@dougdl53 or a beth type on the side;)
1883 and 1923 (Season 1) are two of the best shows I’ve ever watched and are in my opinion leagues better than Yellowstone despite the fact that I do also profoundly enjoy watching Yellowstone as well. Taylor Sheridan is an absolute genius at writing exquisitely crafted stories set within the Western genre.
This show had so much potential and they just shit the bed. 1883 was the best by far, good character developments and story arc's, characters which had flaws but learned and grew which was endearing to the audience. Yellowstone has none of that, just a bad soap opera with cardboard, pre-fab characters that stay exactly the same from start to finish. I hope 1923 is better because I gave up on Yellowstone after season 4.
I couldn't agree more.yellowstone has so much more potential for depth like 1883, but the character development is not existent and lacks emotional connection with the audience ...at least not to the degree that 1883 has. Not saying I don't like it but there's just so much potential with these great characters.
Thanks for doing this family tree. I'm new to all these shows and gets confusing trying to figure how they are all related. Haven't watched any Yellowstone yet.
After watching episode 3 I believe Spencer is the one to carry on & become the direct decendant of John Dutton (Kevin Costner).
Ohh good point! He could name his son after his brother