we had an old kellogg compressor that worked like this except that it had a centrifugal clutch on the engine so when it unloaded the pump stopped turning and the engine could idle slower. the unloader valve had a slight delay so when it kicked the throttle back up it allowed the air to vent for a few seconds so the engine could get up to full speed before the unloader closed. worked really well and didn't use much fuel at all, the engine had a 1 gallon tank and that would run it for 6-8 hours easily. don't remember what engine it had, probably a briggs but it could have been a kohler. big heavy cast iron thing...
What did you use to make the compressor cycle on and off? I’m converting an old electric compressor to gas but the compressor cut off and start up is controlled by electricity?
Its called an unloader check valve. It has a spot for a throttle cable to run the engines throttle. It doesnt unload the compressor like an electric compressor since the engine doesnt turn off when it gets to pressure. It just sends the air coming off the compressor to atmosphere.
Does the stainless steel braided hose need to have a check valve built into it? Or would a stainless steel braided hose without check valve work since the pilot valve already has a check valve built into it? Thanks for all the responses, it has helped me get closer to a finished project!
I'm going to be building a pretty nice compressor myself 13 HP Honda gx390 20 gal tank etc. Setup for natural gas 175 psi pressure. Among other things. Just slowly buying parts for it. The main reason for building it and not. Buying I want to be able to stack stuff on top of it. So I want it to be short to the ground and a cage all the way around it like a generator and a lifting eye to load it I. The back of the truck
Cool, it would be nice to have a way to lift this one into the back of a truck. But i have on board air on my pick up so there really isnt a need for this on in my truck.
hi sir, planning to build a gas powered aircompressor, i was confused when am looking for engine. der is slow and fast engine, what is the right one for air compressor? hope to hear from u. ty
The engine should have a throttle to bring the speed up to compress and down when its idling. I think you need to be concerned with having enough horsepower to turn the pump you want to run.
When you install the bull whip throttle control do you need to remove the original throttle return spring on the engine? i.e. Does the engine have all the original springs still installed or does it only have the governor rod installed when using a bull whip cable?
Not trying to be mean just trying to help. It's spelled Welcome. But how you are using it would be if you answered him when he came to your page. I think you mean to say... "Hello from Egypt"
we had an old kellogg compressor that worked like this except that it had a centrifugal clutch on the engine so when it unloaded the pump stopped turning and the engine could idle slower. the unloader valve had a slight delay so when it kicked the throttle back up it allowed the air to vent for a few seconds so the engine could get up to full speed before the unloader closed. worked really well and didn't use much fuel at all, the engine had a 1 gallon tank and that would run it for 6-8 hours easily. don't remember what engine it had, probably a briggs but it could have been a kohler. big heavy cast iron thing...
Nice job!
What did you use to make the compressor cycle on and off? I’m converting an old electric compressor to gas but the compressor cut off and start up is controlled by electricity?
Its called an unloader check valve. It has a spot for a throttle cable to run the engines throttle. It doesnt unload the compressor like an electric compressor since the engine doesnt turn off when it gets to pressure. It just sends the air coming off the compressor to atmosphere.
Man nice work
Does the stainless steel braided hose need to have a check valve built into it? Or would a stainless steel braided hose without check valve work since the pilot valve already has a check valve built into it? Thanks for all the responses, it has helped me get closer to a finished project!
It doesnt need a check valve since the pilot/unloader has a check valve in it.
Possible to install this engine into 25 litter compressor?
I'm going to be building a pretty nice compressor myself 13 HP Honda gx390 20 gal tank etc. Setup for natural gas 175 psi pressure. Among other things. Just slowly buying parts for it.
The main reason for building it and not. Buying I want to be able to stack stuff on top of it. So I want it to be short to the ground and a cage all the way around it like a generator and a lifting eye to load it I. The back of the truck
Cool, it would be nice to have a way to lift this one into the back of a truck. But i have on board air on my pick up so there really isnt a need for this on in my truck.
I hope this guy knows a good spray painter. That car’s paint is toast after the project is done.
Bold of you to assume I care about that car, or its paint job.
Where you get the copper fitting for the stainless steel line??
Eriks, formerly EVCO house of hose. Im in Utah and they are the bigger name brand hose shop.
Kevin I gotta ask where you got that gray flannel from?
Its actually from under armour.
What's this strong enough to run? Mechanic air tools? Pneumatic construction tools? Or just refill air in tires and run grinders?
It keeps up with half inch gun and small grinders. We run a 1 inch gun to do tires on semi truck and its a little slow but not horrible.
Where did you get the throttle cable/controls to increase rpm when the tank pressure gets low??
Amazon.
www.amazon.com/Bullwhip-Throttle-Control-Compressor-Unloader/dp/B07B2NGX3Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1D134LF6A3SRA&keywords=air+compressor+throttle+cable&qid=1642519378&sprefix=air+compressor+throttle+%2Caps%2C100&sr=8-3
www.amazon.com/Compressor-unloader-combination-discharge-COMPRESSORS/dp/B00NU50ZPM/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=1IDU1B5LSLN4G&keywords=air+compressor+pilot+check+valve+unloader+combination+gas+discharge&qid=1642519449&sprefix=air+compressor+pilot%2Caps%2C114&sr=8-5
The pilot valve includes the check valve (antireturn)?
Yes
Ok im building my compressor i just want to make sure i have everything:
Pilot valve
Throtthle cable what else i need
I got the gasoline motor and air pump
And tank
Nice, google a pilot unloader check valve and find one that has the fittings you want. They are pretty simple.
Very nice
hi sir, planning to build a gas powered aircompressor, i was confused when am looking for engine. der is slow and fast engine, what is the right one for air compressor? hope to hear from u. ty
The engine should have a throttle to bring the speed up to compress and down when its idling. I think you need to be concerned with having enough horsepower to turn the pump you want to run.
What is the cfm on it ??? Thanks looking at building one to run sandblaster ??
13.1 cfm
How much did you have in it minus the tank
700-800 dollars.
@@kmac9759 I just bought a North Star almost identical to this for $1,750 with a 4-year extended warranty. Nice work, impressive!
Precio cuanto la cotización
Where can I get a insulated shirt like yours?
Im not sure.
What PSI does it max out at?
I adjusted it to 130 psi.
When you install the bull whip throttle control do you need to remove the original throttle return spring on the engine? i.e. Does the engine have all the original springs still installed or does it only have the governor rod installed when using a bull whip cable?
All I did was install the throttle cable, and back off the nut where the throttle lever pivots so the lever would move freely. Works great.
@@kmac9759 Thanks!
How's all the grinding sparks hitting his car ...some people don't care....no belt guard on compressor
Hello i how is the air per minute whit the gas engine ? I need something near to 400/500 liters per minute could ve achieved with a 6,5 hp engine ?
cfms ???
The pump manufacturer claims 13.7 cfm. But I dont know if I have it running at the right rpm.
Wolcome from egypt
Not trying to be mean just trying to help.
It's spelled Welcome.
But how you are using it would be if you answered him when he came to your page. I think you mean to say...
"Hello from Egypt"
Good job
I got a engine and I’ll try building one