The Walker Kessler Knicks TRADE NEWS Is About To SILENCE THE NBA...
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I think Mo Wagner is signing back with the Magic.
@@emersonssbb He did! It was either him or his bro giving us fits last yr
jericho sims is 25 years old, he shouldn't be so 'raw' anymore, needs to piss or get off the pot
Sims is a nothing not really NBA material has no skills.
not even kidding when i say this. i firmly believe that Sims is the worst player in the NBA. I truly dont know why we continue to have him on the roster.. Hopefully we trade for Kessler and have Ariel replace Sims as the 3rd option. He needs to be cut, shown zero improvement in 4 seasons
I want the Knicks to get Kessler thibs can turn this kid into a beast
So basically, it's a nice idea, but utterly ridiculous to think it can happen.
I said the same thing about the Nets trading us Mikal Bridges, I no longer doubt Leon Rose.
@@H3ntaig33Kthe only way (and still very unlikely) way a trade could happen is if it was a 3 team trade with another competitive team that's interested in Randle. Knicks would prob have to part with Randle, dude and another asset
Agreed. Knowing Danny Ainge he wants 1st round picks. There is nothing Knicks could offer him other than a whole bunch of guards. Knicks should offer Divencenzo just to sweeten the pot.
@@Paidonjok NO.
Keep Achiuwa ‘ he is a good player ‘ and coast affective
Achiuwa is NOT a good player...
Yes we like him as Knicks fans but he sucks...
@@davidjamal378 he doesnt suck, he's just not good enough to be a full time backup 5. he's like a situational 4 you can put in the game on a hunch
Is that West or East?
The Richards kid is a sleeper. He can really be a actual good player.
He’s really solid and more than likely cheaper than Kessler. The thing is his health. He’s been better since the Hornets went with Mark Williams as the starter.
But for the right price I would LOVE Kessler. Jesus that would be amazing.
If the Knicks sign him this would put them over the top
cant sign him, hes not a FA, he's a trade target
@@LysergiCoyotl well I think that would be avenue worth exploring if I'm the Knicks.
@@nellynel4583Kessler in Ainge's book is easily 3 first round picks
@@nellynel4583 That won't be possible. Danny Ainge wants 1st round picks. Knicks would have to go over the top to show Utah that they are sincere. I would give them Divencenzo.
Keep him.
C-mon Knicks get that Kessler trade done! Don't care about Draft Picks really if this gets the Knicks that ring!!!
That same logic is the reason we no longer have any picks to give up to get him now smh
They would’ve never gave us bridges without handing over a hefty amount of picks..
So what are we to do?
Whoever we go after is going to want the farm these days anyway.
If we got some second round picks I’d say serve them babies up along with Sims and Duece to acquire Kessler.
An resign Precious if they can.
@@mikesaunders9493
Danny Ainge wants 1st round picks. Knicks gave them all up. Knicks need to go over the top to get Kessler. Take the gamble and give Jazz some good players.
@@Paidonjok who would you give?
I would love Kessler but I don't think we get him unless we give up someone who we don't want to like randle..nah I'm good..I think we will have someone by the trade deadline..
DAinge doesn’t like the Knicks so he’s going to set the price too high
Apparently the Knicks need to pay an arm and a leg for everyone but everyone else and the league can offer trash for people
STOP STOP STOP Spreading BS Kessler is way better than IHART Ange is not Trading him Unless we give up the Farm. So focus on NICK RICHARDS
would take at least deuce and picks ..at least 1 first rounder
@gkatusared right and trading Deuce created another problem.
Why are you SOOO mad?
@@migueljimenez9611 Not Mad No just Facts. The Last we traded with Ainge he said we had a Deal for Donovan Mitchell hung up the Phone and Traded him to Cleveland but never called us back and you Trust Him?
You think we can trade sims, duece, and a pick or two for kessler? If we can I’d do it
The fact that there are Kessler rumors means it probably isnt going to happen tbh. Leon and crew seem to move in silence.
I refuse to obsess over backup center
If we would have been able to keep Hartenstein, Mitch would be our backup. Losing him is far from nothing. Sticking with
Mitch without a really capable backup for when he is injured would very likely kill our championship ambitions. I don't know
about obsess but I'm sure Rose understands the seriousness of the Knicks center situation.
@@emirramos990 precisely. We would killed at the rim without a good back-up center. Sims looked good against Embiid. He offers nothing for the offense though.
Whats with elevating deuce to a deity ? He is a decent undersized guard who would be far easier to replace than a center who can go against Embid or other top centers . Deuce is very expendable
You need a Jrue Holiday/Marcus Smart type to stop penetration. If anything he should be getting more minutes next year to rest Brunson and gain that floor general experience.
We also said no way in hell nets trade Mikal to Knicks 🤷🤷🤷 Kessler can happen …
If the trade is being talked about than it's not happening. Leon rose led knicks don't let out leaks.
Facts
The OG deal was talked about before it happened. Donte and Mikal were talked about before those deals happened. Rose is the only GM/pres I've seen make deals that were discussed in the media before they happened.
Mo Wagner is already signed by Orlando so he's off the table. I like the idea of adding Kessler, but I don't want to lose Deuce for him. Do you think we could pull off a sign and trade with Achiuwa + picks for Kessler?
no way
If they want deuce for him you take that and run. And I like deuce
I like deuce, but the backup 5 is a crucial role and you've gotta pay to play man. It'd hurt to see Deuce go but it'd be for a worthy cause. It'll take probably way more than Deuce and a couple FRPs to get that deal done though, which is scary. I'd rather have Kessler but I feel like Leon is gonna go the Nick Richards route and hopefully get him for crumbs. It'd probably be better for us in the long run too, teams don't just give up their second year center that made the all-rookie first team, especially when that GM is Danny Ainge.
Kessler's a good player BUT he does have holes in his game: The reason he got sent to the bench is because he couldn't keep up with the quicker guards on Utah's 3-2 defense that beat him to the hoop or to the arc, ironically, Jericho Sims' forte. He also committed a lot of clumsy fouls and would often get into early foul trouble, so opposing teams set him easily(it's the reason he was benched on the Olympic rookie team, also).
He did improve his 3's from 21% to 33% (doesn't like it, though) and FT from 51% to 60% and can shoot from 10 feet but most of his baskets are from running the rim, just like Jericho Sims. The Knicks are NOT good at the lob nor the pick and roll and don't feed their 5's, either, something Kessler (and for that matter, Sims) needs to be productive on offense.
No way Ainge trades him without fleecing the Knicks of players (think Deuce ,Sims and/or Precious) and two first round picks (Kocek,Dadiet and/or McCuller, etc), so not worth it. Not substantially better than Sims anyway who actually plays Kessler very well when they match up. Straight up deal, maybe, but this is not how Ainge trades....
I don’t get why the league hates us Boston was able to get jrue and porzingis for nothing
They hate any team from new york. New York outside of Los Angeles is the most recognized city in America. They hate us cuz they aint us.💯
Because you got brunson and donte for nothing
@@howardbealick8669 didn’t Boston get Derrick white for romeo Langford and Josh Richardson washed ass
Sometimes I believe every time the Knicks is interested in a. player the whole nba working to not let it happen
The world hates on New Yorkers. Basque in it 😎
Knicks assistant Johnnie Bryant and head scour Walt Perrin were poached away from Utah. Thats why there is a beef.
Center B R U N O C A B O C L O will cost just around $ 2 - 2.5 M. Man has bulked up, Giannis-esque, and is playing great right now as seen in the FIBA OQT. Hitting open threes, finishing lobs, attacking the basket, while patrolling the paint of course.
also Wagner can't be traded since he was just signed by the Magic this off season. I'm very confused why Magic had 3 centers, all paid 10M+ per year
If the deal ever got done which is highly unlikely it would have to be a three-team trade
i'd go grab dwight howard from overseas..if no other deal comes to fruition
Kessler is one of my big guys in fantasy league. Drafted him 3 years in a row
This would be considered a game changer for the Knicks... the young man is beyond coachable & Tom would foster one of the most talented centers in the league. He would fit perfectly in the system with premium upside. Without including Duce, I'd make the trade instantly. But Ange is a "Celtic" at heart... That's what the issue is(be clear). So he is the issue. Give him whatever he desires that won't destroy the team. Id love for this to happen.
I wouldn’t trade no more than Sims, Achuwa, & Burks for Kessler.
@@chrisconnors9449 I agree... that would be great.... absolutely 💯... but toss them pics in there as well. If need be.
@@chrisconnors9449 Burks already signed with the Heat. A Sign and trade with Achiuwa would be ideal so we can keep Deuce
@@chrisconnors9449 naw we keep Burks bruh
@@user-se2si3je8m Is Burks still on the roster?
Defender for sure!
Man… If we get Kessler…
We are going to the show!
Sims and McBride plus picks
No way bruh wtf are the Jazz doing
The Knicks need to act fast before other teams start giving offers. Let's go. We could give up Deuce And Simms and one pick
After having Mr FRAGÌLE at the helm anything a plus 💯 !!! But Ainge about to ask for a Kings Randsom as always 💯!
What stopped them from getting him
🙏 Please Hopefully we sign him~~🙏🙏🙏
Bridges trade isn't officially finished there will be other players picks n teams involved
Not getting a center thru trade.
no assets left , unless Utah like one of our rookies
Nobody is looking at Dario Saric at all UFA and can be had for the vet minimum along with Precious. Yes he is only 6'10 225lbs but he has great passing court vision like somebody else we know(I.Hartenstien) and is a deadeye with 3ptrs too unlike somebody else we know and there is continuity with Manhattan Bridges with their playing days on the Suns.
Rose messed up by overpaying for Bridges and not signing I Hart for 3 years. Then not moving up in draft to get Edey. We will end up with Sims and Hukporti backing up Mitch.
We need to trade for him
I honestly don't believe Kessler to the Knicks is going to happen... Danny Ainge is anti-Knick and a die hard Boston Celtics fan... so I dont think he will do anything to hurt the Celtics but I also think he will only trade to the Knicks if he fleeces them... so the Knicks will have to pick their poison here and ask themselves... is it worth it to over trade for Kessler? I think the Knicks should move on if Ainge asks for too much.
As bad as I want Kessler I'm not convinced we have enough to pry him from Mr Fleece Ainge who hates us
There's no way we're going to get this guy from Danny ainge unless we give up every piece we've got as much as I would love to see him play for us I don't think Leon Rose can do it
The only way this is the best off-season is if we in the Chip. That LJ trade got us to the finals. so we have to win it for it to be the best. Doesn’t have to be this year but within the next 3 to 5 years with these guys.
People keep saying Deuce for Kessler. No way Utah would do that but honestly, I'd trade Mitch for Kessler.
Precious has shown that he is an effective player. Keep him. Maybe Mitch won't get hurt
Please no Taj Gibson
Yeah why would they give him up so please stop
The Knicks are not making any more moves till after the summer league games🤔
We aren’t desperate. 🚫🚫
Send Randle to a 3rd team and keep McBride
So Mitch for Kessler not realistic right ? Cuz they could take Mitch and Knicks could resign precious
This is our starting 5 brunson bridges randle og and Robinson our bench will be josh heart devincenzo and if we ge get Kessler why not if we can get Kessler and kyle lowrie we will be fine
😂 we are not getting Keslee brodie, Danny didn’t call them back last time, that tells you right there hes a snake
We cant afford Kessler... just way too much to lose overall. Im no GM or coach but imo the team is good enough with a 1-4 of Brunson, Mikal, OG and Randle that we can afford to let Ariel develop. The Knicks drafted him for a reason. We developed Deuce well. He can be a starting 2 somewhere. Areil has HUGE POTENTIAL. We dont need to overpay for anyone.
Really who we have as a back up don't we got josh heart don't we have devincenzo I mean we do have back up shooter
First of all if you're a big supporter of thibbs dont worry about draft picks. Thibbs dont like Rookies
Why would Utah trade a 22 year old impactful player??? He fits their rebuild. Move on a focus on something real.
What's the latest on Walker Kessler to the Knicks? Is it legit?
You're comparing Donovan Mitchell to Walker which ain't no comparison, and he sure ain't commanding what Gobet did. Ainge can't jump too far out the window. I like that Jalen Duren, Jaden Ivy trade for Mitch, Miles, a first, and some second round picks. Two players they could have had anyway.
They got 7 from OKC plus how eva many they already had, and they still have 5 future firsts. So to give up one plus how eva many seconds for them I would do wit the quickness. Jaden Ivy can take ova when Brunson needs a rest. What if they can get that deal and some how get Walker? 🤔
Ainge over there, don't even bother
Get Daniel Theis 🎉
We could’ve been signed a center
It’s not happening, Ainge is Celtic.
There not going to anything more
Celtics Danny ang tough negotiator.
teams know knicks desperate to win.. Any team gonna try n milk them
All my homies hate Danny Ainge
Then we traded the farm for mikal. If it’s anywhere realistic without giving up deuce. You do it
No players in that deal. Ainge wanted a bunch of our top shelf talent, probably equal to 3 or more 1st’s just the players
HTF does he have more "size" than I Hart!?
His wing span is 4 inches bigger
Robert Williams is injuries prone
Danny Angie hate the Knicks
Mo Wagner got sign already so u can forget about him
Y'all think Anige didn't see Knicks giving up 6 first for Mikal?
Ainge also wanted a bunch of players, think what CLE had to also include - the players are like 3 or so 1sts to boot. We gave up nobody
@@falkc11 that's not the point...6 1st for Rudy Gobert 4 for DM since Knicks are in a generous mood Ainge gonna probably want 4/5 1st for Kessler
The more I hear this Kessler rumor the more I think it's BS. Ainge is an awful GM to do business with. My gut tells me they're going with Precious, it's the easiest move to make, he can fill in for OG, Randle and Mitch
precious is more of a backup PF than C though.... knicks brass knows that the team is dead in the water if Robinson goes down. if they roll with just Achiuwa can guarantee they'll make a deal by the trade deadline. Achiuwa might as well be a traffic cone for a guy like Embiid or real centers. They need a 7 footer Precious just isnt big enough.
@@LysergiCoyotl it's weird to think they didn't have a backup plan, as if the I-Hart situation was a shocker. I can't imagine they'd just let all the centers get taken off the market if they really liked one
Precious is dog water
@@user-nw4my8nq7e right now they have Sims and a couple of rookies off the bench to fill in for the front court. if Randle goes down, if OG goes down, 'when' Mitch goes down, they're toast
Kessler trade is a reach. Richards is a cheaper bet . Y not thies. He is a energy guy hu can hit the 3.
Trade Jericho Sims, Jacob Toppin, Shake Milton, DaQuan Jeffries, Duane Washington Jr & picks for Kessler and maybe also Lauri Markannen too somehow. Do this + resign Precious and we are set.
If only it was that easy.😂
@@derrickwalker892Why not? I'm genuinely curious to learn
@@dorkasaurus_rex You can start with Danny Ainge and look at the level of talent being exchanged. That's the starting point.
I heard this trade is dead
Ppl Du sce is gone. Im done w knicks
Nobody gonna want Mitch cause y'all been f up his bag but y'all got ihart paid and he left getting paid more than Brunson now
ainge can blow beef he is a trashbag glad he didnt get to be a part of celts win
Trade deuce Mcbride and 2 second round pick for Kessler
Probably would take Sims as well
You trade Deuce, and then who do u have as the back up 1? Honestly I 'm not sure if we did enough to beat the Pacers! we're extremely thin in diff areas...
Kolek has been brought in as the new McBride
@@1HelluvaGuyBX Kolek!
@@DC-uf6ve No, Kolek is a true PG Deuce is more of a 2
Leon has screwed Knicks leaving them in this desperate center situation . Not a genius.
Nonsense smh. Let that man cook
LMAO Vegas odds rn Knicks are #3 to WIN THE FINALS behind only Boston and OKC (i think its okc)
"Leon screwed us"
Yeah dude we are TOAST without that backup Center spot OH NO! Cuz we def. lost EVERY GAME last year when we didnt have iHart OR Mitch! Every team in NBA has Centers 7fters its the most important position in todays game!
Come on guys. Small issue we will take care of it
The 2 eras of Knick Championship or near Championship teams were marked by great centers . Reed and Ewing. Good luck on pursuing a CHP without a first rate center
@@alanterlinsky50 How many championships did Steph win without one? Who is Boston's great Center? Stop it
You clearly haven’t been paying attention to Leon. He won’t get fleeced and he has a plan. I Hart was a back up
Keep dreaming
I’m trading deuce, sims and our 2 1st! I’ll throw in some seconds to get the deal done! That will solidify us as a true title contender
Jalen Brunson following the Isaiah Thomas career trajectory - the fall of is about to be REAL 🤣
Didn't know that Brunson was 5 foot 8 inches tall. Or that Isiah Thomas won 2 championships in college and busted out multiple 40 point games in the playoffs before getting traded and then doing it MORE AND EVEN BIGGER to the point he is getting Jordan all time records!
So why is Brunson cooked again?!? Keep dreaming bro.😂
@@MaChao2 IDENTICAL numbers at 27 - but Thomas actually made it past the second round - you’re a casual 🤡