FF7R - EASY WAY to defeat WHISPER HARBINGER on HARD mode

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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2021
  • All explained in the vid with commentary, this is my BEGINNER'S GUIDE in Final Fantasy 7 Remake on how to defeat the first of the two Chapter 18 bosses, WHISPER HARBINGER on HARD mode easily! I showcase the build as well as my personal preferred method to beat it!
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  • @badfella511
    @badfella511 Год назад +18

    HOLY CRAP!!! FIRST TRY YOUR METHOD! After dying multiple times I had to search for a method, getting so far to die and have to restart and not skip these cutscenes is ridiculous.. Huge Thank you!!!

  • @blackscorpionstinger
    @blackscorpionstinger 2 года назад +22

    That bahamut was cheap. When they combined i was like FFFFFFFFFFFF

  • @bentucky4324
    @bentucky4324 2 месяца назад +3

    Thank you so much!
    I struggled to beat this boss for the longest and actually had to go on a break for a full year.
    After returning, I first viewed your video to help guide me into this boss again. And I have to say thanks for how helpful it was.
    I managed to beat the boss on the first try while still watching this video as I played.
    Incredibly informative, educational, and easy to follow. Thanks again bunch!

  • @SpareTheBullshit
    @SpareTheBullshit 2 года назад +14

    Perfect timing. I *just* got to this point! :)
    Your guides have been really useful!

  • @atomic_jerry
    @atomic_jerry 11 дней назад +1

    Bro, fantastic guide! Practical, easy, effective! Much appreciated!

  • @lovelessgenesis8
    @lovelessgenesis8 11 месяцев назад +5

    Thanks to u I finally finished the game on hard difficulty; keep up the good work dude!!

  • @DustinDabney
    @DustinDabney 3 месяца назад +4

    I've been struggling with this fight for a while, using different kinds of strategies I've seen. Most were looking like trying to finish the fight fast. But I found this one and I used it. And I beat this fight first try with this strategy. Thank you so much for this one!

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  3 месяца назад +3

      Yea I dunno why a lot of guides will more focused looking cool, fast, stylish etc instead of making it as easy as possible, even though its advertised as 'easy guide'.
      Ive just learnt mate that so much clickbait out there unfortunately and strangely enough, easy means different things to different people when it comes to video games!

  • @2Negativecool
    @2Negativecool 20 дней назад +1

    First tried this as well because of your guide. Worked like a charm. Just be patient and it goes pretty smooth. Although, since I'm not as skilled with perfect timing dodges and being on top of which attack is coming, I stacked Barret a bit more - with MP absorb and healing (didn't lose any MP to heal frequently) as well as prayer whenever everyone needed something extra. I put prayer on Tifa too because Regen just doesn't quite do it for large HP attacks that I'm not as good as avoiding/mitigating. I did put a revive in there, but thanks to this guide I didn't need it. With prayer on Tifa she had more MP carry over to the next fight with Sephiroth, so she was able to help out more with that (I needed all my characters to run as much support materia as they could carry - no open materia slots for me - lol - Your skill is amazing.)

  • @SAMURAIch
    @SAMURAIch 2 года назад +6

    That moment when i struggle with this boss on normal lol. Thanks for the guide, gonna try it out tomorrow!

  • @Spiduka
    @Spiduka 3 месяца назад +3

    Cheers, I did it first try following your guide, you’re amazing for this

  • @TheLobito81
    @TheLobito81 3 месяца назад +2

    Really great guide! Thank you for your help!! Tried doing it a "quick way" or speed run attack from a different Channel, but the strategy was outdated and I lost a few times before giving up. Lucky I found you! 🙏

  • @phoenixfire1543
    @phoenixfire1543 Год назад +1

    Dude, your guide was really helpful! Thank you!

  • @jameskay8028
    @jameskay8028 Год назад +1

    Thanks for making this, I put off the platinum trophy for a while back in 2021, I got this this fight down first try with your help :)

  • @amerigo3000
    @amerigo3000 2 года назад +2

    i did it at my very first try. This guide rocks. cheers bro, you the best

  • @FF7RR
    @FF7RR 16 дней назад +1

    In the first and second phase, the whispers disappear even if you don't make any attacks, so just take the opportunity to fill the 3 limits just by defending with Cloud and whenever you have two bars of atb on Barret, use Regen and then Cure or Curaga, using Iron Maiden and Stedfast Block takes almost no damage.

  • @friedshrimp934
    @friedshrimp934 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for your help on this one! Did platinum trophy on rebirth and now I'm back watching your vids to finally finished hard mode on remake lol

  • @dangerdan6238
    @dangerdan6238 Год назад +2

    Thank you so much for your guides! Without them I would've been totally lost :)

  • @Kenneth-dt5xb
    @Kenneth-dt5xb 4 месяца назад +2

    First try, you sir are a legend! Thank you for a fantastic guide!

  • @EntaoBlzEntao
    @EntaoBlzEntao Год назад +17

    I'm gonna try this one today, seems like a fun fight. There's just this boss and Sephiroth left for the platinum trophy.

  • @jhonjaimebernal3962
    @jhonjaimebernal3962 5 месяцев назад +2

    bro thank you so much, for real. I've been trying this boss for 2 days, idk why it took me so long. but then I found your video, I tried the boss while watching it, and did it at first try. doesn't matter how much time happen, this guide is real real useful, thank you so much again

  • @mijulee6783
    @mijulee6783 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nice one thank you for this guide I finally beat them on hardmode thanks to this!

  • @MiloDLL
    @MiloDLL 2 года назад +5

    Thx you so much, I was finally able to beat it

  • @bengimite91
    @bengimite91 3 месяца назад +1

    I got the job done first try with your method. thank you so much!

  • @colosonumero13
    @colosonumero13 2 года назад +2

    Great guide. First attempt. Thanks dude

  • @Fatiihtju
    @Fatiihtju Месяц назад +1

    Thanks bro, just finished the Harbringers. Tomorrow I will try out Sepheroth! Thanks for your videos it helped allot!

  • @shugogh12
    @shugogh12 2 года назад +1

    Just got the platinum thank god for these guides XD

  • @obscurity3027
    @obscurity3027 2 года назад +11

    Finally platinumed this game, all thanks to you, brother. Thanks again for the videos!
    By the way, the driving sequence in this chapter on hard mode is ridiculous…I tried to get thru it and failed miserably.

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад +5

      Oh yea I can imagine mate, that's why I skipped it xD

    • @kiamick
      @kiamick 3 месяца назад

      I just done it last night. Ended up in bed at 1am due to wiping so many times!!

  • @fatalkira1737
    @fatalkira1737 Месяц назад +1

    FINALLY BEAT IT ON HARD THANK YOU FOR THIS GUIDE!!!

  • @princedmarvel3719
    @princedmarvel3719 3 месяца назад +2

    Thank you very much bro now sephiroth is left

  • @snake-eyes211
    @snake-eyes211 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for making this fight so easy ❤️

  • @y-albinali9617
    @y-albinali9617 3 дня назад +1

    Thanks man much appreciated

  • @JakeCarterKerrMusic
    @JakeCarterKerrMusic 2 года назад +5

    Blocking was the best tip lol. Tifa died straight away and was MIA the entire fight. Ended up with Barrett at the end instead and beat sephiroth with 60 HP left on aerith haha. Shit was intense.

    • @MariusBoss11458
      @MariusBoss11458 Год назад +1

      This is why you give Revive and any kind of healing Materia to every party member.

  • @femain1788
    @femain1788 2 года назад +1

    Tha k you I have been stuck on this for so long I can even explain. Now I just got to cheese sephiroth in the same way lol.

  • @ofmanywords2022
    @ofmanywords2022 2 месяца назад +2

    Thank you brother

  • @philgon1992
    @philgon1992 2 года назад +1

    Really good guide! Got it first try with your method. Finally I got the platinum :)

  • @foreveraweeb3514
    @foreveraweeb3514 9 месяцев назад +1

    With gotteramdam I did it first try but it's late so I've turned off my ps5. I assume if don't remove power it'll be fine if not no big deal as I'm happy plus I didn't have cure on tifa or cloud which made it harder

  • @RedLotus
    @RedLotus 6 месяцев назад +1

    I was using these guides back when I beat the game and just revisited for nostalgia but, I was wondering.
    Do you plan on doing a hard mode walkthrough for PT2? Don’t think I could’ve done it without your very in depth guide so thank you!

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  6 месяцев назад +4

      Hoping so mate

    • @RedLotus
      @RedLotus 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Optinooby looking forward to it 🙏🏼😤

  • @DrKumkar
    @DrKumkar 2 месяца назад +1

    I really wonder how long it takes you to formulate these guides. The amount of detail you provide is insane and unmatched by any other channel Iv seen.

  • @A7Kailani
    @A7Kailani 7 месяцев назад +1

    Truly Legend

  • @dacypha40
    @dacypha40 2 года назад +2

    You are the man what a joy playing it your way I truly had so much fun. Platinum here I come

  • @combobreaker13
    @combobreaker13 Год назад +1

    Do weapons impact the damage of the limit break? I tried using the buster sword instead of hardedge and the limit break did like 1/3 of the damage

    • @combobreaker13
      @combobreaker13 Год назад +1

      I had elemental fire on my sword that’s probably why

  • @TheGravyHulk
    @TheGravyHulk 2 года назад +1

    I have pride of joy to complete and this last fight for the Platinum. I am struggling with Pride and Joy so was hoping to be able to do this fight first to level up a bit. But I dont have the Gotterwhateveritis as it is a reward for Pride and Joy so I wont be able to follow this strat with that limit break there for cloud. Is there any other way of completing this fight on hard without the Gotterthing reward or is it too tough? Would you say I have to do Pride and Joy 1st?

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад +4

      It would be a lot tougher without Gotterdammerung, you wouldn't be able to go at it sorta defensively like this without it.
      Are you not level 50 then?? You can level up quick in Chapter 16, I have a vid on that
      Thing is, once you have the appropriate setup, completing Whisper before Pride and Joy won't make Pride and Joy any easier, it will still be the same difficulty.
      But.....
      Doing Pride and Joy first WILL make Whisper easier as u then have Gotterdammerung!!
      So you just gotta decide how u wanna do it really, do u wanna keep going at it or just crack on with Pride and Joy which u have to do anyway and then Whisper will be easier........decisions ;)

    • @TheGravyHulk
      @TheGravyHulk 2 года назад

      @@Optinooby Dude you were right! I managed to do the Pride and Joy fight last night. I followed your guide on it to the letter and it took 6 trys but I nailed it on the 6th go. Bahamut didnt even get to summon Ifirit just like in your video 🤣👌🏻 Now I have Gotterdamerung I am going to do the same with the final fight on hard, which is my final trophy for the plat 👌🏻🏆 This one has taken a decent amount of time tbf, but it would have taken twice as long and would have been only half as enjoyable and double as frustrating without your guides for hard mode. Great work dude 👍🏻

    • @foreveraweeb3514
      @foreveraweeb3514 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Optinooby this helps me as I was wondering what to do myself. Yeah it'd be better to do pride first, well hopefully I don't have a crazy hard time

    • @darrenbachan9272
      @darrenbachan9272 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@foreveraweeb3514 I'm stuck on this boss and haven't beaten pride and joy. If I use chapter select to go to ch9 to do the aerith colosseum stuff and then ch17 would jumping around affect my dress progress for that trophy?

  • @miketheboss4459
    @miketheboss4459 2 года назад +2

    Thanks Man, i kill very Easy thanks to you 💪💪💪

  • @1991SuperMAX
    @1991SuperMAX 24 дня назад +1

    Wow. That made it wasy.
    Final Boss is the Pull Ups...

  • @linkshunter608
    @linkshunter608 4 месяца назад +1

    Hell house? Fine. Malboro? Easy. Weiss? No problem. Pride and joy? Simple. This chapter kicked my ass 😭so damn hard on hard mode

  • @ParadiseLordRyu
    @ParadiseLordRyu 2 года назад +1

    Is it possible without weapons maxed? I want to fight harbinger first

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад

      Not sure mate, u could give it a try

  • @SkotKozB5
    @SkotKozB5 4 месяца назад +1

    I encountered a glitch I didn't know could happen....Barret died while I was on the Cloud/Tifa/Aerith phase.
    I literally couldn't progress because he wasn't alive to shoot the big dude....

  • @steel9061
    @steel9061 Год назад +1

    How do you have limit break straight away?

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  Год назад

      Gotterdammerung mate from Top Secrets challenges
      the DLC can get you 2 more as well making this even easier!!

  • @Tomathias
    @Tomathias Год назад +2

    Had to watch this to learn to use limit break straight up against the dragon because that fucker kept just sweeping my entire team

  • @pyldrvndwn
    @pyldrvndwn 2 года назад +1

    I counterstance blue and yellow also.

  • @SaturdayMorningProps
    @SaturdayMorningProps 2 года назад +3

    an amazing guide! so easy to follow and nothing to learn!

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад +1

      I tried everything with this boss mate, just like with them all, with this 1 in particular, it was just the easiest most efficient way to do it. It's a messy fight so the defensive and patience option just works better here
      Tried full on attack, other abilities/spells but just gets wayyy to messy then and more difficult to pull off

    • @SaturdayMorningProps
      @SaturdayMorningProps 2 года назад +2

      @@Optinooby the simplicity is the most amazing part, other guides tried to be fancy with luck chances of self destruct and this and that. Your guide was amazing and shared with my community for anyone trying to get the platinum. Thank you

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад +1

      I didn't look at too many of guides for this, or I did and just didn't like what I saw early on so quit video, but I remember a few Sephiroth vids where they were similar, had u doing fancy moves which were not necessary and requires wasting time learning the moves.
      Of course I figured a way which is again, so much simpler without any showing off ;), makes me wonder why the others have u doing more complicated strategies!! That's how it is with video games, u follow a GPS for example, and u expect the easiest most efficient way to ur destination, but with video games, creators don't think like that and think you are not bothered abt that approach because videos game and so just show u whatever it seems ;) (a lot plagiarism is out there as well)
      Anyhow, glad u did it mate, and I have some DLC videos btw if u get onto that, haven't quite finished it all yet though

    • @SaturdayMorningProps
      @SaturdayMorningProps 2 года назад +1

      How would you rank the difficulty of the dlc hard mode, I vowed this would be my last hard mode game and just wanted one final fantasy platinum but may throw the dlc in to it

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад +1

      I actually can't comment on that as hard mode is what I haven't done yet on the DLC, but if u keep an eye on my uploads, once u get see FF7 DLC Hard Vids go up, u will know, hopefully early next year

  • @FatFingers02
    @FatFingers02 Год назад +10

    I’ll say you really missed a trick with this one! Using refocus right at the beginning is a huge game changer. Plus if you utilise elemental materia paired with lightning and fire on cloud and Tifa makes this fight so much easier as well.

  • @IgnorantPrince
    @IgnorantPrince Месяц назад +1

    This fight is harder than Sephiroth

  • @upaipmy
    @upaipmy 2 года назад +1

    tq tq tq vm

  • @Bonez767
    @Bonez767 2 месяца назад +1

    Ima keep it real I played this game like a complete brute mainly used cloud and just hack and slashed my way thru the whole game until I got to this part my method still works lol but I just get instantly killed by this dragon fucking sucks. But yeah I just bought rebirth 2 days ago but I need to beat this game! I’m so close but thanks for this video I’m going to try it out !
    Update : I beat it thanks to this video thank you bro!

  • @Aaronfoo7
    @Aaronfoo7 8 месяцев назад +1

    i have to restart and play again. i don't have steadfast block materia at all too fast go to final boss. very regret. thanks for the tips.

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  8 месяцев назад

      restart, just the chapter you mean right?

    • @Aaronfoo7
      @Aaronfoo7 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Optinooby Actually I'm still not yet finish ff7 for the first time. and not able to select the previous chapter to level up my characters. But I have my previous save file in chapter 17 and I trying to find Chadley in Hojo's Lab in the end not able to make it. So what I can do is I just keep walk around the jenova lab to leveling my character and material. If still not able to fight whisper bahamut i might change to difficulty to easy mode

    • @Aaronfoo7
      @Aaronfoo7 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Optinooby I just subscribed your channel. thanks for the reply. I'm from Malaysia.

  • @atreyuavenged1
    @atreyuavenged1 Год назад +3

    All good til your limit break flat out misses Bahamut for whatever reason.

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  Год назад +1

      Its like that with most the hard bosses unfortunately, with any strategy. I know a lot of players like the difficulty, but i likely would have never touched hard mode if not for the trophy.
      Though using the DLC to get Gotterdammerung x 3 may actually make it so u can cheese most bossfights without any real strategy

    • @Styles_Breez
      @Styles_Breez Год назад +1

      Lol yea I tried it in the 2nd fight on the yellow Harbinger.... dude set off an explosion n sent Cloud flying across the screen 😢

  • @kongdoo1226
    @kongdoo1226 2 года назад +1

    Is it ok if i dont have enchanted ring?

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад +1

      Yea it's not a big problem, it makes Barrier last for 10 or 15 secs longer is all, think it's an extra 25% iirc. I like to use it as it removes the magnify reduction

    • @kongdoo1226
      @kongdoo1226 2 года назад +1

      @@Optinooby whats the best alternative item to put instead?

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад +1

      This is on Tifa yea, well not really anything else is off use as we are using Cloud mainly with Tifa/Aerith splashed in
      I had a draft where I put Gotterdammerung on Tifa and Fury Ring on Cloud, but settled with this build in the end, it messed it up too much when having to count on Tifa limit
      I guess you could put the ATB item on Tifa so she gets ATB faster, do you have that one?? Sure I remember a accessory that lets your ATB build quicker, that could be good on here, or if not maybe a Fury Ring so when she is attacking, ur guaranteed she will do what I show then

    • @kongdoo1226
      @kongdoo1226 2 года назад +1

      @@Optinooby so fury ring is ok to use instead? Thank you so much man! Your guide on top secrets really helped me.. can't wait to try this guide..

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад

      You can yea, you give and receive 30% damage, but with Barrier active and Cloud being controlled always, Tifa shouldn't take too much damage, the extra 30% she has on her attack could help a lot I guess

  • @NEKVAHN
    @NEKVAHN 6 месяцев назад +1

    one to go

  • @khoring7890
    @khoring7890 Год назад +2

    I don´t know how you do that. I get pummeled without end. -.-

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  Год назад

      I found the strategy quite consistent, maybe your timings are a bit different to mine and its allowing them to get more attacks in and changing things

  • @gamblerfls
    @gamblerfls 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'm getting ass-kicked by Sephiroth lol

  • @reszzz
    @reszzz Год назад +1

    Another great guide! If you find this video, follow this guide and you will win period.

  • @lochskye
    @lochskye 2 года назад +1

    Arcane ward using mythril rod how?

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад

      Is it a unique weapon skill?? I ask because with those, once you have maxed it, then you can use it on any weapon. You should find the info in the menus

    • @lochskye
      @lochskye 2 года назад +1

      My man I am sorry but I don’t understand the only way I am able to use that skill is with the Guard stick

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад +1

      Go into battles with that weapon, use the skill and eventually it will level up and can be used by all. Looking at weapons on the stats screen usually shows unique kills current progress in bottom right corner......??

    • @lochskye
      @lochskye 2 года назад +1

      Sorry buddy I was wrong the skill is there I didn’t see it. I just beat it thanks for your guide it helped a lot. One thing I didn’t do or understand is how do you get that “multi casting “ for several party members, there’s like a little clock right next to the spell. For example Tifa was casting regen for a Cloud and her

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад +1

      You have to link the materia with the Magnify materia, then you press the Dpad I think while highlight to switch from the magnify or normal version
      Don't recall exactly the button to switch, but magnify is the materia it's linked with

  • @jefferymensah9216
    @jefferymensah9216 Год назад +1

    Barret died on the second encounter on my run 💀

  • @andrewfernandez2005
    @andrewfernandez2005 2 года назад +1

    @optinoob

  • @viento9983
    @viento9983 Год назад +2

    I gave up the playing the game!

  • @andrewfernandez2005
    @andrewfernandez2005 2 года назад +2

    Can someone share play for me I will pay 10 dollars I can’t get past this part

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад +1

      Just block m8 and Counter as I do here, keep Manawall always active, have a healer

    • @andrewfernandez2005
      @andrewfernandez2005 2 года назад +1

      @@Optinooby I’ve tried and I keep struggling

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад

      We've all been there m8, took me like 50+ tries before I got the build/strat to this. This is what I think is easier, just keep practicing and following my strat and should come with a bit of practice, do u have Gotterdamrung??

    • @andrewfernandez2005
      @andrewfernandez2005 2 года назад +1

      @@Optinooby yes I do

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  2 года назад

      @@andrewfernandez2005 you can do this then m8, at this point we have all just had enough though right xD

  • @tamodolo
    @tamodolo 4 месяца назад +1

    This method takes into account you defeated all chalenges of chapter 17. Man... I think it's harder to kill bahamuth... This game is ridiculously hard!!! It's designed for you to exploit the damn game!

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  4 месяца назад

      In my walkthrough, we did everything in story order, even the Bahamut challenge. Though I dont have all manuscripts.
      Idea was that most players will be doing hard mode in story order..

    • @tamodolo
      @tamodolo 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Optinooby ah... never mind. just defeated him. Can't believe I made it! Will get this platinum today!

  • @migduh
    @migduh 4 месяца назад +1

    BaHOOmut

  • @nightcorenetwork7743
    @nightcorenetwork7743 3 месяца назад +1

    Yea, this game still sucks and this startegy is impossible to pull off

    • @nightcorenetwork7743
      @nightcorenetwork7743 3 месяца назад +1

      Barret always gets attacked THE MOMENT he tries using prayer, and they both always go down in second phase
      I'M DOING NOTHING WRONG, WHY WONT THIS WORK

  • @phillydterminaldisease6578
    @phillydterminaldisease6578 Год назад +2

    0:28 OMFG WHY ARE YOU STARTING AT THE BIKE GET TO THE FUCKING POINT

    • @Optinooby
      @Optinooby  Год назад +9

      We skip it literally 2 secs after that timestamp, but if this isn't the video for you, you can perhaps watch somebody else and dislike this one.
      Apologies for taking 30 secs to get to the battle, this was actually taken from my platinum walkthrough, the boss fight is all fully explained though