Thank you for making this video. It's very well done. I'm doing this trip in two days and didn't know much about what to expect aside from the Subway itself. You deserve 1,000x as many views.
Last time we were in the area we couldn’t get a subway permit, but instead got a permit for keyhole canyon. So glad we did as it was amazing! I can’t recommend it enough for a beginner canyon. We hope to make it back to do the subway sometime soon.
One of my favorite hikes I've ever done. My brother and I did it when we were broke and stupid, so we nearly got lost before the canyon section and didn't have any gear except a rope that was barely long enough. I was also delighted to find a HUGE, bloated, white dead rat floating in one of the swimmers after I had swum around in it for 15 minutes looking for my sunglasses. Definitely recommend this hike though, it's really cool.
@@LiveThatAdventure Basically its a location in a fantasy series called the stormlight archive which was based on the landscape of zion and from the description of the book the subway was probably a specific inspiration.
Hey Rododlfo! You do need a permit of you go the way that we went. You can hike up from the bottom without a permit though. The way we went is a little more dangerous than the regular hike in.
Thanks for this - the detail and advice is great! Feels almost like being along for the ride :-) Doing this top-down is one of my top 5 dream hikes, it looks like an absolute blast. Will have to figure out some way to take my Sony camera whenever I go, can't imagine not being able to take shots during this!
Thank you! So glad that you enjoyed the video! If you don't have canyoneering experience, you will definitely want to go with someone that does. It is such an incredible experience. Im a sony shooter too! It is a bummer that it is very challenging to take fancy cameras into spots like this. :)
@@daradventures this is very true! That's why when we run canyons we usually only take GoPros. Luckily they take pretty darn good pictures these days :-)
@@LiveThatAdventure I have actually never canyoneered,I just surf in the winter a lot and it gets cold. But I'm going to go to the subway this year hopefully
the death you referenced at about 10:15 did NOT occur at Keyhole Falls where you mentioned it. That accident occurred at the final, exit rappel, though not off the bolts that you used. There was webbing on a log 20 feet upstream from where you rapped, which left them rappelling in the water course, which precipitated the unfortunate accident.
Thanks for the correction! Some of the research we found mentioned Keyhole Falls as the site of the accident. Either way, it is meant to warn people about the danger of this hike and not to take it casually. We definitely appreciated the corrected info! Have a wonderful day.
@@LiveThatAdventure , @rickthompson2739 is correct. I think some news outlets got confused because the couple had completed Keyhole Canyon in preparation for Subway and there is a separate Keyhole *Falls* in the Subway, which you point out at the 10:00 mark.
We did 4 rappels. You do need a permit and I wouldn't recommend attempting it unless you at least have someone in your group with a lot of canyoneering experience.
We just hiked from the top down yesterday. Your video helped SO much. We watched it numerous times and found the trail and made it safely down thanks to your vid. We saw the tree in the upper section of the Subway but the one below is no longer there. Anyone know what happened to it?
That's so awesome! Wasn't it amazing!? So glad that our video could help. I'm assuming that a flash flood might have come through and taken the lower one away. Canyons are like living creatures and they are always changing. Glad you got to experience it!
Thanks for the quick reply and for the great vid again! Forgot to mention, we even took screenshots of your vid to reference as we made our way through. Such a help in making us feel comfortable doing this hike. 😊
@@greenepiece that's so cool! Thanks for letting us know. Always feels good to help people go on awesome adventures. That's why we started the channel 😎🤙
My wife and I have done the Subway bottom up route 3 times and want to do the top down. I understand a permit is needed and no “commercial” tours allowed but if we don’t own gear do we just need to know somebody to guide us?
Technically yes. But this is a semi technical canyon. We strongly recommend having either canyoneering training or experience. We want to see you stay safe out there. 😁👍
@@LiveThatAdventure I agree. We’ve both done canyoneering/rappelling tours elsewhere and indoor rock climbing. Definitely wouldn’t do this without an experienced “guide”
I'm not a fan of permits either but I do understand their reasoning. It's a beautiful place so the limit it to 50 visitors a day so it doesn't turn into a zoo. And it can be dangerous so with the permit system in place, if something happens, the park service will have an idea of who hasn't made it out.
Dry suits are nice to protect you from the cold. There are only 2 problems with them. Canyoneering is really hard on your gear and a small hole in a dry suit ruins it. The other problem is that dry suits can be crazy expensive.
Hi! I really enjoyed this video and was wondering if you just used your phone to record footage. I would like to start recording my hiking/camping trips. Any advice/tips from you would be greatly appreciated :)
Hey Lizzie! Glad to hear that you enjoyed it! We film all of our videos on the gopro hero 9 and 10. They are great little cameras and they take a beating!
I am surprised with all the repelling. Did this from top down as a scout in the 90's with no ropes. Remember climbing down a log at one point but never had harnesses or anything.
@@tylerashton8543 that's cool that you got to experience it! There must be some ways to work around it. There is just the one in the middle that I'm not sure how you could get by without rappelling. Maybe that was the log climb. Canyons are constantly changing due to flash floods.
Hello, are you planning on doing the bottom up route? The route that we did on the video is considered semi technical and requires Canyoneering experience. We had to bring our own ropes as well as the rest of the gear. If you don't have Canyoneering experience we highly recommend doing the bottom up route. It's still really pretty 👍
@@colinmccullough2733 are you referring to the Canyoneering route? There are tracks on all trails, I would highly recommend loading the gpx into an inreach or similar tracker because cell reception is slim to none out there.
@@LiveThatAdventure Ya we are headed out to do that too down canyoneering route and it seemed like it would be easy to loose track of the route prior to getting into the canyon
Hey, we have all the links and infos listed on our blog. The link for the blog is in the description. Please make sure you know how to rappel and downclimb before attempting this!
Thank you for making this video. It's very well done. I'm doing this trip in two days and didn't know much about what to expect aside from the Subway itself. You deserve 1,000x as many views.
Thank you so much Michael! So glad that we could help. We hope that you have an amazing time. The Subway is an incredible place. 😁
Nice hike..I'm 61 and would do that in a heart beat.
Thats awesome! Get out there and get it Don! :)
Best version of wrecking Ball
Can’t wait, we’re booked for October!
That's awesome! Be sure to bring that wetsuit. You're gonna love it!
what dates ?
Last time we were in the area we couldn’t get a subway permit, but instead got a permit for keyhole canyon. So glad we did as it was amazing! I can’t recommend it enough for a beginner canyon. We hope to make it back to do the subway sometime soon.
Keyhole is definitely high on the list for us! Hopefully you can snag a subway permit soon!
Good job, guys.
Thank you Mike! 😁👍
One of my favorite hikes I've ever done. My brother and I did it when we were broke and stupid, so we nearly got lost before the canyon section and didn't have any gear except a rope that was barely long enough. I was also delighted to find a HUGE, bloated, white dead rat floating in one of the swimmers after I had swum around in it for 15 minutes looking for my sunglasses. Definitely recommend this hike though, it's really cool.
Sounds like one heck of an experience! :D
I got to do the subway a few years ago. Watching your video brought it all back. What an awesome adventure.
It was definitely amazing! Glad you got to do it. 😊
BEAUTIFUL 😍
@@tomthatcher7757 thank you! It was a mind blowing experience ❤️
Wild to see what the shattered plains would look like in real life
I'm not super familiar with the shattered plains.
@@LiveThatAdventure Basically its a location in a fantasy series called the stormlight archive which was based on the landscape of zion and from the description of the book the subway was probably a specific inspiration.
@@caolanmoore4027 oh cool! We will have to check that out! :D I can see how someone would be inspired by a place like this.
I am new to canyoneering and im super excited to do hikes like this. Thanks for putting in the time and effort into filming and editing this video!
Thank you! Canyoneering is such an awesome activity. We hope you love it as much as we do! ❤️
Great review well done!
Thank you! 😁🤙
You should come to Switzerland and visit Corippo or another of the many canyons here!
Oh man, that would be awesome.. canyoneering in Costa Rica is also on our list as well!
Thrilling!! GREAT Video and info.
Thank you so much! It was so much fun!
Great video
I have a cuestión
I need a permit to go the subway o No
And is to dangerous
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Hey Rododlfo! You do need a permit of you go the way that we went. You can hike up from the bottom without a permit though. The way we went is a little more dangerous than the regular hike in.
Thanks for this - the detail and advice is great! Feels almost like being along for the ride :-) Doing this top-down is one of my top 5 dream hikes, it looks like an absolute blast. Will have to figure out some way to take my Sony camera whenever I go, can't imagine not being able to take shots during this!
Thank you! So glad that you enjoyed the video! If you don't have canyoneering experience, you will definitely want to go with someone that does. It is such an incredible experience. Im a sony shooter too! It is a bummer that it is very challenging to take fancy cameras into spots like this. :)
@@LiveThatAdventure but always better to emerge from the hike with no stellar photos rather than with no camera 😀
@@daradventures this is very true! That's why when we run canyons we usually only take GoPros. Luckily they take pretty darn good pictures these days :-)
Wow!
Isn't that spot crazy?
3/2 are rated for 62-68 when it gets into the 50s 4/3 is a good call
Thanks for the brakedown! I'm happy to say that we have 4/3's now. They are so much better in cold conditions! 🥶
@@LiveThatAdventure I have actually never canyoneered,I just surf in the winter a lot and it gets cold. But I'm going to go to the subway this year hopefully
@@IIrandhandleII of right on! That's funny cause I'm trying to surf this year! We are trading places.
the death you referenced at about 10:15 did NOT occur at Keyhole Falls where you mentioned it. That accident occurred at the final, exit rappel, though not off the bolts that you used. There was webbing on a log 20 feet upstream from where you rapped, which left them rappelling in the water course, which precipitated the unfortunate accident.
Thanks for the correction! Some of the research we found mentioned Keyhole Falls as the site of the accident. Either way, it is meant to warn people about the danger of this hike and not to take it casually. We definitely appreciated the corrected info! Have a wonderful day.
@@LiveThatAdventure , @rickthompson2739 is correct. I think some news outlets got confused because the couple had completed Keyhole Canyon in preparation for Subway and there is a separate Keyhole *Falls* in the Subway, which you point out at the 10:00 mark.
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Magnificent hike and video and information rich! Thank you. And - are all the backpacks for this hike special water proof types?
Thank you so much! Yes these are canyoneering backpacks. They are super tough and they all have drainage holes in the bottom.
I'm assuming with having to repel three times, this is a hike you cannot do by yourself? legit question.
We did 4 rappels. You do need a permit and I wouldn't recommend attempting it unless you at least have someone in your group with a lot of canyoneering experience.
We just hiked from the top down yesterday. Your video helped SO much. We watched it numerous times and found the trail and made it safely down thanks to your vid. We saw the tree in the upper section of the Subway but the one below is no longer there. Anyone know what happened to it?
That's so awesome! Wasn't it amazing!? So glad that our video could help. I'm assuming that a flash flood might have come through and taken the lower one away. Canyons are like living creatures and they are always changing. Glad you got to experience it!
Thanks for the quick reply and for the great vid again! Forgot to mention, we even took screenshots of your vid to reference as we made our way through. Such a help in making us feel comfortable doing this hike. 😊
@@greenepiece that's so cool! Thanks for letting us know. Always feels good to help people go on awesome adventures. That's why we started the channel 😎🤙
My wife and I have done the Subway bottom up route 3 times and want to do the top down. I understand a permit is needed and no “commercial” tours allowed but if we don’t own gear do we just need to know somebody to guide us?
Technically yes. But this is a semi technical canyon. We strongly recommend having either canyoneering training or experience. We want to see you stay safe out there. 😁👍
@@LiveThatAdventure I agree. We’ve both done canyoneering/rappelling tours elsewhere and indoor rock climbing. Definitely wouldn’t do this without an experienced “guide”
@@christophermiller2436 Yea if thats the case you should be good to go.
A permit to walk around? Is this America
The permit is only needed for the canyoneering route. You can do the bottom up hike with no permit👍
@@LiveThatAdventure bottom up hike requires a permit these days I think
@@AndrewHelwer yeah, we just found that out the other day, too. That's unfortunate. 😞
I'm not a fan of permits either but I do understand their reasoning. It's a beautiful place so the limit it to 50 visitors a day so it doesn't turn into a zoo. And it can be dangerous so with the permit system in place, if something happens, the park service will have an idea of who hasn't made it out.
would a dry suit be better than a wet suit or just make things more complicated?
Dry suits are nice to protect you from the cold. There are only 2 problems with them. Canyoneering is really hard on your gear and a small hole in a dry suit ruins it. The other problem is that dry suits can be crazy expensive.
How do you guys only have 14k followers here
We shall see what next year brings. We have some pretty big plans 😎👍
Hi! I really enjoyed this video and was wondering if you just used your phone to record footage. I would like to start recording my hiking/camping trips. Any advice/tips from you would be greatly appreciated :)
Hey Lizzie! Glad to hear that you enjoyed it! We film all of our videos on the gopro hero 9 and 10. They are great little cameras and they take a beating!
@@LiveThatAdventure thank you so much for responding so quickly! :)
@@lizzieperez2834 no prob! Good luck with your videos!
What month did you do this?
This was shot at the end of April.
I am surprised with all the repelling. Did this from top down as a scout in the 90's with no ropes. Remember climbing down a log at one point but never had harnesses or anything.
@@tylerashton8543 that's cool that you got to experience it! There must be some ways to work around it. There is just the one in the middle that I'm not sure how you could get by without rappelling. Maybe that was the log climb. Canyons are constantly changing due to flash floods.
Not that I could hike this trail but can't ppl just do the trail in reverse and skip all the rappelling and most water holes?
Hey Mike, yes you can definitely hike up from the bottom as well. It pretty much dead ends at the subway. You do need a permit to do this as well.
So what are the rangers going to do if they catch you in the middle of the canyon? Make you go back up?
You are going to get a pretty hefty fine I believe
Hello, we have a permit for March . Are the ropes there or do we need to bring our own? Thank you
Hello, are you planning on doing the bottom up route? The route that we did on the video is considered semi technical and requires Canyoneering experience. We had to bring our own ropes as well as the rest of the gear. If you don't have Canyoneering experience we highly recommend doing the bottom up route. It's still really pretty 👍
Is there a gps app you recommend for navigating to the subway from the trailhead?
@@colinmccullough2733 are you referring to the Canyoneering route? There are tracks on all trails, I would highly recommend loading the gpx into an inreach or similar tracker because cell reception is slim to none out there.
@@LiveThatAdventure Ya we are headed out to do that too down canyoneering route and it seemed like it would be easy to loose track of the route prior to getting into the canyon
@@colinmccullough2733 ya it's not really marked, at least it wasn't when we went
Difficult
Hi friend. Is a lik available for get permit?
Hey, we have all the links and infos listed on our blog. The link for the blog is in the description. Please make sure you know how to rappel and downclimb before attempting this!
@@LiveThatAdventure thank you